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j-bay
12-09-2010, 09:21 PM
above and give your reason

F*(&"Next Year"
12-09-2010, 09:27 PM
Too early. Sox handed out a stupid big deal to CC, but AJ isnt worth half of what hes making. At the time I thought I was going to give up on baseball because of how good the yanks looked like they were gunna be.
Sox still have work to do.
Im leaning towards the sox, but their signees could turn into epics fails much like burnett.

MelanconMadness
12-09-2010, 09:28 PM
Teix and Agon cancel out. Though you will likely pay less for AGon, the prospects given up cancels it

Sabathia vs Crawford? Its not even close

But you guys get draft picks from VMart, Beltre, and Lopez.

IMO, its a tie. But the offseason isnt over

mark1125
12-09-2010, 09:28 PM
I picked yankees because I don't think the Sox moves are quite as dramatic as you think. Yes,......A-Gon and Crawford will be good, but they lost V-Mart and Beltre who both had good years. Personally, I think CC is a bit overrated. I LOVE the A-Gon trade.

CrazyCrackar
12-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Well being the yanks got a ring that year, got an ace in CC, and Mark Teixeira, who ended up 2nd in MVP voting that year, while winning a gold glove; its not like crawford and A Gon can do better than that....Easily the Yanks.

unwantedplayer
12-09-2010, 09:33 PM
I picked yankees because I don't think the Sox moves are quite as dramatic as you think. Yes,......A-Gon and Crawford will be good, but they lost V-Mart and Beltre who both had good years. Personally, I think CC is a bit overrated. I LOVE the A-Gon trade.

V-Mart is on the decline and probably won't be a catcher after 2-3 years and theres a pretty good chance Beltre won't be able to replicate what he did last year. I agree that Crawford is overrated and I am not that big on the signing, but he isn't that bad that people are making him out to be. Crawford and A-Gon were in the top 10, I believe, in batting averages with RISP. It'll be interesting to see how it will all pan out though.

YEDN90
12-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Yankees ended up winning the WS.

Lets see where Boston ends up. Red Sox homerism has dramatically shot up.

j-bay
12-09-2010, 09:35 PM
and i believe that a-gon was ahead of votto and hamilton in avg with risp

Gootie42
12-09-2010, 09:39 PM
too early

NYY NYJ NYK
12-11-2010, 11:40 PM
Im leaning towards the sox, but their signees could turn into epics fails much like burnett.

He was horrible last year, but he did play a important role for them in 2009 (championship season).

F*(&"Next Year"
12-12-2010, 05:55 PM
He was horrible last year, but he did play a important role for them in 2009 (championship season).

I understand that, but going forward it looks more evident that he will stand to be a bust. We have no idea how many championships each team will win with there pickups.

Hence why I have refused to vote in this poll.

drty snchz
12-18-2010, 01:22 PM
Sox easy...they didn't give Burnett 82 mil. He wouldn't be in the rotation if he didn't have that contract.

ShinobiNYC
12-18-2010, 06:08 PM
Sox easy...they didn't give Burnett 82 mil. He wouldn't be in the rotation if he didn't have that contract.

Aj was the best starter in the 2009 postseason...Why do u think Beckett was still the Sox's ace in the postseason even after a 5+ ERA in the regular season?

drty snchz
12-18-2010, 06:49 PM
a couple good starts in october doesn't exonorate the ridiculousness of the AJ contract. it was a joke when he got it and it gets worse w every start.

cambovenzi
12-18-2010, 08:13 PM
a couple good starts in october doesn't exonorate the ridiculousness of the AJ contract. it was a joke when he got it and it gets worse w every start.

You must have missed the entire 09 season where he posted a 4.04 ERA in the hitters park.
he yankees added huge pieces and won a WS.

The sox lost some big pieces while adding some and have yet to see the results.

Going with yankees 09 on this one.

North Country
12-18-2010, 08:41 PM
You Yankees fans are being ridiculous talking about what a big role AJ Burnett played in the Yankees World Series and how he was the best starter in that postseason. He made one good start, in the ALDS. The rest of the posteason, he got lit up. He had a 5.27 ERA in the postseason and didn't last 5 innings in either one of his World Series appearances. The Yankees won despite him.

bagwell368
12-18-2010, 10:26 PM
Yankees ended up winning the WS.

Lets see where Boston ends up. Red Sox homerism has dramatically shot up.

I agree!

It's reached near half way to Mt Yankee Ego....

bagwell368
12-18-2010, 10:30 PM
Aj was the best starter in the 2009 postseason...Why do u think Beckett was still the Sox's ace in the postseason even after a 5+ ERA in the regular season?

??? Are you saying Beckett had an ERA of over 5.00 in 2009 regular season? Because was at 3.86.

cambovenzi
12-18-2010, 10:35 PM
You Yankees fans are being ridiculous talking about what a big role AJ Burnett played in the Yankees World Series and how he was the best starter in that postseason. He made one good start, in the ALDS. The rest of the posteason, he got lit up. He had a 5.27 ERA in the postseason and didn't last 5 innings in either one of his World Series appearances. The Yankees won despite him.

You mean it was someone else in disguise who won game 2 of the world series with 7 innings of 1 run ball?

North Country
12-18-2010, 10:43 PM
You mean it was someone else in disguise who won game 2 of the world series with 7 innings of 1 run ball?

My bad, he had 2 good starts. But my point stands that saying a guy with a 5+ ERA in the 2009 postseason was the best pitcher of the postseason and had a huge role in the Yankees World Series that year is silly.

yankeefan54
12-19-2010, 03:19 PM
just cc and teix alone is better than a-gon and Crawford. CC is the ace of the yankees and teix only cost money and no prospects. THe yankees won the world series with there 3 moves. If the sox win the series then there can be a case made. Remember though that 09 yankees team was the best team arguably of the decade.

yankeefan54
12-19-2010, 03:25 PM
My bad, he had 2 good starts. But my point stands that saying a guy with a 5+ ERA in the 2009 postseason was the best pitcher of the postseason and had a huge role in the Yankees World Series that year is silly.
6.1 H3 R2 ER2 BB2 k4 0 era 2.19 ALCS GM2 AJ burnett

Actually he had 3 good starts get your facts straight

EAGLES3658
12-19-2010, 06:58 PM
Yankees because they won that year. Id wait to see how the season plays out before saying who made the better signings.

RangersMets
12-20-2010, 07:26 AM
Well, the Yanks moves brought them a WS already. That can't be changed.

No one has any idea at all how much these moves will impact the Red Sox.

Until it is proven otherwise, the Yanks have to have this one.

coolwell_84
01-21-2011, 11:23 PM
As much as I have always disliked the Yankees, I always thought that players looked sharp in pinstripes. That was of course before Tex and CC put them on. Tex is the biggest looking dork in baseball and CC should wear a bib when he pitches.

stejay
01-22-2011, 04:44 PM
I say Yanks. Two guys who would be easily the Ace pitcher on most clubs, and one of the top 3-4 1st Basemen in the League, and when healthy, is better than Adrian Gonzalez.

papipapsmanny
01-22-2011, 05:27 PM
All I know is

Pedroia
Crawford
Gonzalez
Youkilis

Thats gonna be real fun to watch

papipapsmanny
01-22-2011, 05:30 PM
I say Yanks. Two guys who would be easily the Ace pitcher on most clubs, and one of the top 3-4 1st Basemen in the League, and when healthy, is better than Adrian Gonzalez.

No he isn't.... Gonzalez played with a shoulder injury all season and still put up an OPS+ of 152

Madtown22
02-23-2011, 02:07 PM
close poll. AJ is a disaster, but other than that I say pretty even. Boston had a pretty good staff to begin with

Matt-the-great
02-23-2011, 08:44 PM
look at the current state of the Yankees and there is your answer.

smm9127
02-23-2011, 10:47 PM
look at the current state of the Yankees and there is your answer.

What does that even mean? I must have missed CC, Tex, and Burnett all being hurt right now, because that's the only way your comment would make any sense whatsoever.

Pinstripe pride
02-24-2011, 11:50 AM
since the yanks won the world series that year, i'll go with them. i'll revisit if the sox win ths year.


also the yanks made those additions without losing anyone. sox made these additions, but also lost 2 of their best hitters from last year as well so the moves will be less impactful than the yanks

Pinstripe pride
02-24-2011, 11:51 AM
look at the current state of the Yankees and there is your answer.

the team that won the world series 2 years ago and went to the ALCS last year? i think their fine

Matt-the-great
02-24-2011, 09:36 PM
the team that won the world series 2 years ago and went to the ALCS last year? i think their fine

spelling abomination aside, I do not think they are "fine".

they have a payroll around $220 Million and scrubs as their 4th and 5th starters and AJ Burnett as their 3rd....That is not "fine"

Madtown22
02-26-2011, 12:25 AM
Sox baby!

Crane4ever
03-01-2011, 05:02 PM
Yankees win this one no doubt. I don't even think it's close but the offseason still isn't over yet. On a side note I think the Yankees 2004 offseason was even bigger than the 2009 one. Getting Arod, Sheffield, Lofton, Leiber, Kevin Brown, Tom Gordon, and Javier Vasquez were all HUGE deals.