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dnewguy
12-05-2010, 12:34 PM
Jordan has been crowned as number 1, from past and present players, which player would you rank as second best of all time?

Khalifa21
12-05-2010, 12:34 PM
Magic

effen5
12-05-2010, 12:36 PM
Another quality thread by Dnewguy

Hunter48MVP
12-05-2010, 12:40 PM
What is LeBron James doing on the list?

dnewguy
12-05-2010, 12:43 PM
What is LeBron James doing on the list?

And who are the other players better than him that I didn't put on the list? You don't have to vote for him btw.

Hawkeye15
12-05-2010, 12:44 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mvp_shares_career.html

not the tell all, but a pretty decent measure, and a pretty decent list, of top 10 players ever at this point. Obviously the active guys can still climb a bit

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-05-2010, 12:44 PM
Please remove lebron, he has no rings

ink
12-05-2010, 12:47 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mvp_shares_career.html

not the tell all, but a pretty decent measure, and a pretty decent list, of top 10 players ever at this point. Obviously the active guys can still climb a bit

It's worth posting that in the thread:


NBA/ABA
Rank Player MVP Shares

1. Michael Jordan* 8.138
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 6.203
3. Larry Bird* 5.693
4. Magic Johnson* 5.129
5. Bill Russell* 4.827
6. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
7. Karl Malone* 4.296
8. Wilt Chamberlain* 4.269
9. Tim Duncan 4.205
10. Kobe Bryant 3.409
11. David Robinson* 3.123
12. LeBron James 3.070
13. Moses Malone* 2.873
14. Kevin Garnett 2.752
15. Bob Pettit* 2.628

BALLER71
12-05-2010, 12:48 PM
Please remove lebron, he has no rings

Jordan was 28 when he won his first title.

Lebron is 25-26 years old.

Boom.

JordansBulls
12-05-2010, 12:51 PM
I pick Kareem because he has the stats, accolades, titles

FWIW, here is a list that was done.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254390&highlight=PSD's+time

Hawkeye15
12-05-2010, 12:52 PM
Please remove lebron, he has no rings

he has 2 MVP's, and has had numbers out of this world so far in his young career. And do you really think he won't have a ring eventually? And how does that just all of a sudden make you better? It means the team you happened to be on was the best that year. Nothing more, nothing less

ink
12-05-2010, 12:54 PM
he has 2 MVP's, and has had numbers out of this world so far in his young career. And do you really think he won't have a ring eventually? And how does that just all of a sudden make you better? It means the team you happened to be on was the best that year. Nothing more, nothing less

But don't you know that everyone is counting Kobe's rings? If he gets one more, he's the GOAT. :cool: That whole rationale is predicated on a competition between MJ and Kobe that isn't even rational. That "rivalry" ignores the fact that there are a whole bunch of other players in between the two players in the rankings.

Hawkeye15
12-05-2010, 12:57 PM
But don't you know that everyone is counting Kobe's rings? If he gets one more, he's the GOAT. :cool:

we will have a reply for that. 3 of them came as second banana, he has already lost 1 finals appearance. That alone makes it impossible to ever pass MJ. Oh, and there are the stats.....

nolin
12-05-2010, 12:57 PM
Big Bill has to be right? 11 rings in 13 years. the 2years he didnt win he was injured. enough said

millerandco
12-05-2010, 01:00 PM
kobe

Frrrrank!!!
12-05-2010, 01:13 PM
Jordan

effen5
12-05-2010, 01:15 PM
Jordan was 28 when he won his first title.

Lebron is 25-26 years old.

Boom.

Age doesn't mean ****....its how long you've been in the NBA.

Jordan I think was in his 7th year when he won his first title, Lebron is in his 8th?



Boom.

dnewguy
12-05-2010, 02:22 PM
Big Bill has to be right? 11 rings in 13 years. the 2years he didnt win he was injured. enough said

and how many teams did he have to compete against? 8. Plus all the stars played for the Celtics, Not sure you can judge him solely on his accomplishment at that period. Keep in mind that most people were kept segregated and didnt have no opportunities to play basketball. In short, the skill level wasn't up to par in that period.

todu82
12-05-2010, 02:41 PM
Kareem

Kashmir13579
12-05-2010, 05:02 PM
we will have a reply for that. 3 of them came as second banana, he has already lost 1 finals appearance. That alone makes it impossible to ever pass MJ. Oh, and there are the stats.....

what would we do without you hawkeye:o

Minimal
12-05-2010, 05:09 PM
OMG Kobe didnt even surpass Shaq imo. People who vote him 2nd best are straight up homers.

2nd best - Magic Johnson or Oscar Robertson imo.

jackdawson
12-06-2010, 10:19 AM
Replace Kobe with Jordan becuase Kobe is the GOAT :rolleyes::facepalm:

ClipperfanKevin
12-07-2010, 05:31 AM
Voted Wilt, although I will admit that I don't know much about the NBA pre '95 or so.

i.got.the.nutz
12-07-2010, 07:30 AM
we will have a reply for that. 3 of them came as second banana, he has already lost 1 finals appearance. That alone makes it impossible to ever pass MJ. Oh, and there are the stats.....

Already knew there was going to be some Kobe bashing but didn't expect it to come from you two first.

Magic or Kareem for me.

ManRam
12-07-2010, 11:55 AM
My top 12.

12. Moses
11. Jerry West
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
8. Tim Duncan
7. Shaquille O’Neal
6. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Larry Bird
3. Magic Johnson
2. Bill Russell
1. Michael Jordan

I'm waiting for Kobe's career to be over. Right now I'd have him sandwiched between Shaq and Duncan. No statistical evidence will ever support Kobe being a top 3-5 player. If you wan rings to be the be-all end-all, that's fine...but it's a team sport, and I think that rings can be a very trivial way to assess individual greatness. It takes a team to win championships, not one player.

Bos_Sports4Life
12-08-2010, 12:48 AM
Big Bill has to be right? 11 rings in 13 years. the 2years he didnt win he was injured. enough said



:nod:

Bos_Sports4Life
12-08-2010, 12:49 AM
Jordan



x2

kozelkid
12-08-2010, 03:47 AM
Jordan was 28 when he won his first title.

Lebron is 25-26 years old.

Boom.

Jordan won a title in his first seven years. Lebron hasn't.

Boom.


In all seriousness, Lebron doesn't belong in this list YET. Maybe 5-8 years from now he can be. Til then, I really only think 2 players are debatable for the #2 spot and that's Russell or Kareem.