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JasonJohnHorn
12-04-2010, 07:37 PM
Rondo is averaging 14.1 assists, and has had a few games where he has handed out 19 assists! Numbers like that havent been put up since Stockton was in his prime and posted a league record 1164 assist in a season and a league record 14.5 a game. Can Rondo beat either of those records this season?

eXpLiiCt
12-04-2010, 07:45 PM
Yep.

KnicksorBust
12-04-2010, 07:50 PM
No. It's too high a number for him to sustain. Plus at the end of games the ball the Celtics are much more willing to take the ball out of his hands and give it to Pierce to create.

justinnum1
12-04-2010, 07:56 PM
Yes.

jackdawson
12-04-2010, 07:57 PM
Yes.

John Walls Era
12-04-2010, 08:00 PM
Yes

Basketash
12-04-2010, 08:02 PM
Probably not, he'll be close but won't beat it.

PC
12-04-2010, 08:07 PM
No I don't think so. It's possible but I'd bet against it

kArSoN RyDaH
12-04-2010, 08:10 PM
I think he can. I hope he does. I think he's a great PG. He's #1 in my book.

netsgiantsyanks
12-04-2010, 08:14 PM
No I don't think so. It's possible but I'd bet against it

loving the avatar. :up:

netsgiantsyanks
12-04-2010, 08:15 PM
and yeah, i can see him doing it.

Hustlenomics
12-04-2010, 08:18 PM
he could..

conway429
12-04-2010, 08:25 PM
no

gbrl
12-04-2010, 08:28 PM
maybe

Khalifa21
12-04-2010, 08:36 PM
No

Sly Guy
12-04-2010, 08:41 PM
no. Numbers are too high to sustain, as it was said already.

dtmagnet
12-04-2010, 08:45 PM
I think he can, he's talented enough for sure.

69centers
12-04-2010, 08:51 PM
He can and he should, but I don't think he will for one simple reason:

There will be too many teams that the C's will blowout this year, especially at the end of the season when teams are out of the playoffs. There will be too many times that Rondo will sit for the entire 4th quarter. He has done it already a few times this year, or else he'd be averaging 15 right now.

Bob Loblaw
12-04-2010, 09:01 PM
Maybe average but total will be too hard to stay healthy the whole season.

j-bay
12-04-2010, 09:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rAHnwWfsaY

n83417
12-04-2010, 09:16 PM
Probably not. But if anyone can in the NBA it is Rondo.

HoopsDrive
12-04-2010, 09:19 PM
Gonna go out on a limb and say maybe.

Gibby
12-04-2010, 09:20 PM
Stockton played 82 games that year so the "total assists" is out of his reach. I dont think Rondo can play over 39 minutes a game and sustain that average either.

Bruno
12-04-2010, 09:31 PM
He has the tools and the players to make it happen.

Hawkeye15
12-04-2010, 09:39 PM
obviously its possible. But I will go on record as saying he won't.

jjizle
12-04-2010, 09:55 PM
No. It's too high a number for him to sustain. Plus at the end of games the ball the Celtics are much more willing to take the ball out of his hands and give it to Pierce to create.

I was just at the Celtics Bulls game where Rondo got his 19 assists. Three or four of those assists came in the final minutes where he was setting up Pierce. I don't think Pierce has much of a 1 on 1 game left where he can create on his own, he gets his points by Rondo setting him up. Even Garnett who had a huge game can thank Rondo, he was gettin set up all night. I think he is extremely underrated because of all the future HOF'ers he's with. He's really the center piece to that team though. He has the ability to do it and id say after 20 or so games its fair to assume that there won't be a huge dropoff in assists. He'll average around 13 or 14 for the year and make it very close to beating stockton's record. He has the perfect team for it too.

Durant is hype
12-04-2010, 10:00 PM
Is it possible? Yeah

Will he? No

0nekhmer
12-04-2010, 10:03 PM
yeah i think he can. as long as he stays healthy

LakersMaster24
12-04-2010, 10:04 PM
I think so, because the kid is putting up incredible numbers every night...I think its VERY possible.

mjt20mik
12-04-2010, 10:05 PM
Probably not, he'll be close but won't beat it.

This.

Sadds The Gr8
12-04-2010, 10:14 PM
nope

albertc86
12-04-2010, 10:17 PM
There's one difference between Stockton and Rondo that no one has noted. That is, Rondo's assist numbers have seem forced since it was brought to his attention that he was challenging Stockton's single season record. Stockton's numbers came within the flow of the offense and Rondo's hasn't. The Celtics are just so good that he can get away with it. Can he beat it? I think so, because if he just looks to pass the ball, he certainly has the cast to help him achieve it.

koreancabbage
12-04-2010, 11:21 PM
sure - anything is possible

hugepatsfan
12-04-2010, 11:22 PM
I think there's a chance he can. But I don't think he will.

hugepatsfan
12-04-2010, 11:25 PM
There's one difference between Stockton and Rondo that no one has noted. That is, Rondo's assist numbers have seem forced since it was brought to his attention that he was challenging Stockton's single season record. Stockton's numbers came within the flow of the offense and Rondo's hasn't. The Celtics are just so good that he can get away with it. Can he beat it? I think so, because if he just looks to pass the ball, he certainly has the cast to help him achieve it.

Ball movement is the Celtic flow of offense. They all overpass(except Shaq because he is always wide open for a dunk, but even he is a great passer). KG instilled that mentaility in them. It's their biggest strength as a team. But it also leads to a lot of TOs, which is why they've always been high since the Big 3 era in that area.

clutchski
12-04-2010, 11:29 PM
I respect Rondo for his game but no way in hell he beats this particular Stockton record.

bklynny67
12-04-2010, 11:33 PM
LOL he's done this through only about 20 games.. he's nowhere near as good or as talented as Stockton. Rondo isn't good enough to lick the dirt off Stockton's shoes. he won't come close.

tangent12
12-04-2010, 11:54 PM
Rondo isn't that good. So no... no way.

Rafer17
12-05-2010, 01:28 AM
Yes.

John Walls Era
12-05-2010, 01:31 AM
Rondo isn't that good. So no... no way.

Come on man.

PS: No one take the bait that will lead to a "you know what" thread.

John Walls Era
12-05-2010, 01:31 AM
Out of all the PGs in the league, he is the only one that will beat it or come close. No other PG is as good as Rondo.

More-Than-Most
12-05-2010, 01:46 AM
Out of all the PGs in the league, he is the only one that will beat it or come close. No other PG is as good as Rondo.

Are you being serious??? If you are I agree he is good but wow you are overrating him by a ton. There are 3 point guards I would easily take over him on the offensive side of the ball... Williams/Paul/Nash... They are all having similar to better seasons with less talent around them.

hugepatsfan
12-05-2010, 01:50 AM
Out of all the PGs in the league, he is the only one that will beat it or come close. No other PG is as good as Rondo.

CP3 is a better PG at everything. I think Deron is the better player, but I would say that Rondo is the better assist man though.

John Walls Era
12-05-2010, 01:52 AM
Are you being serious??? If you are I agree he is good but wow you are overrating him by a ton. There are 3 point guards I would easily take over him on the offensive side of the ball... Williams/Paul/Nash... They are all having similar to better seasons with less talent around them.


CP3 is a better PG at everything. I think Deron is the better player, but I would say that Rondo is the better assist man though.

I was kind of joking. I hate CP3, like Williams though. Should've said in the east. Seriously though, Rondo has probably the best playmaking skills in the NBA. CP3 is not better than Rondo at passing or winning.

Mochalman
12-05-2010, 01:54 AM
if rondo had any kind of offensive game he would be held in same talk as cp3 and deron but he doesn't. will he baet the record? who knows. he may get injured or have a cold streak.

Mochalman
12-05-2010, 01:56 AM
I was kind of joking. I hate CP3, like Williams though. Should've said in the east. Seriously though, Rondo has probably the best playmaking skills in the NBA. CP3 is not better than Rondo at passing or winning.

Rondo:
ray allen
kevin garnett
paul pierce

Cp3:
trevor ariza
emeka okafor
david west


if you switch them places no one would of ever heard of rondo

redsox0717
12-05-2010, 01:56 AM
There's one difference between Stockton and Rondo that no one has noted. That is, Rondo's assist numbers have seem forced since it was brought to his attention that he was challenging Stockton's single season record. Stockton's numbers came within the flow of the offense and Rondo's hasn't. The Celtics are just so good that he can get away with it. Can he beat it? I think so, because if he just looks to pass the ball, he certainly has the cast to help him achieve it.

LMAO :facepalm:

gcoll
12-05-2010, 02:00 AM
I doubt it.

hugepatsfan
12-05-2010, 02:02 AM
I was kind of joking. I hate CP3, like Williams though. Should've said in the east. Seriously though, Rondo has probably the best playmaking skills in the NBA. CP3 is not better than Rondo at passing or winning.

Rondo may be a better passer. But CP3 is a more efficient passer. I know the latter based off of stats. But the former, I don't watch CP3 enough to say. Rondo does make some sick passes. As far as winning, it's not fair to bash CP3 for that. For one thing, they actually have won a bit. The West is tough so they get knocked out though. I think CP3 is a winning type of player.

Chapin78
12-05-2010, 02:04 AM
With 4 future hall of famers on the squad if he doesn't he will solidify himself as an average PG. Replace Rondo with another PG and you will get similar numbers. List a top 10 PG (which Rondo is) and you will get the same stats. Once you get to the top part of the list you could close to double it. Rondo is a good PG but not great. Say what you want but he cannot hold a sneaker to CP3, Williams etc. Face it he isn't a GREAT PG he is a GOOD one.

Blazers#1Fan
12-05-2010, 02:08 AM
can he Yes
will he No

gcoll
12-05-2010, 02:09 AM
I dig that he's a pass first point guard. I would have preferred the Suns to have kept him, but the fact that he is a dick head is sort of annoying.

Blazers#1Fan
12-05-2010, 02:12 AM
With 4 future hall of famers on the squad if he doesn't he will solidify himself as an average PG. Replace Rondo with another PG and you will get similar numbers. List a top 10 PG (which Rondo is) and you will get the same stats. Once you get to the top part of the list you could close to double it. Rondo is a good PG but not great. Say what you want but he cannot hold a sneaker to CP3, Williams etc. Face it he isn't a GREAT PG he is a GOOD one.

you puff puff passin cuz u smokin something
or you just never seen rondo play if those 4 were not on his team he'd be scoring more: look at the playoffs last year

Blazers#1Fan
12-05-2010, 02:14 AM
I dig that he's a pass first point guard. I would have preferred the Suns to have kept him, but the fact that he is a dick head is sort of annoying.

i wish portland got him imagine LA,Matthews,batum,Roy,Rondo,camby

redsox0717
12-05-2010, 02:18 AM
With 4 future hall of famers on the squad if he doesn't he will solidify himself as an average PG. Replace Rondo with another PG and you will get similar numbers. List a top 10 PG (which Rondo is) and you will get the same stats. Once you get to the top part of the list you could close to double it. Rondo is a good PG but not great. Say what you want but he cannot hold a sneaker to CP3, Williams etc. Face it he isn't a GREAT PG he is a GOOD one.

Yeah just surround a PG with good players and you get good stats, right? Ask Carlos Arroyo about that.

checkit
12-05-2010, 02:26 AM
Yeah just surround a PG with good players and you get good stats, right? Ask Carlos Arroyo about that.

+1. I hate the "replace any PG with Rondo and the get the same results" argument. This only shows that the person who states this does not watch many Celtics games and probably only checks box scores. It's a silly conjecture that is used only to downplay Rondo's talents from folks who suffer from blind hate.

dynasty7961
12-05-2010, 02:30 AM
he will

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-05-2010, 04:43 AM
no

he'll finish the season around 13 apg

sargon21
12-05-2010, 04:55 AM
rondo getting 15+ ast in a game, is much less impressive than cp3 getting 11+ in a game

king4day
12-05-2010, 05:18 AM
Possible, yes. But too much goes on in the NBA these days for him to be able to do it. The team around him is old and he'd have to bank on near complete health to have a shot.

kArSoN RyDaH
12-05-2010, 05:27 AM
PGs assist the ball. I'd take Rondo over any other PG in the NBA anyday, especially on my Laker team

dodie53
12-05-2010, 05:57 AM
it's possible

Minimal
12-05-2010, 06:16 AM
He can, but he won't.
3rd best PG in the game right now and if u can't see his talent, you are blind.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-05-2010, 06:29 AM
rondo getting 15+ ast in a game, is much less impressive than cp3 getting 11+ in a game

:confused:

xxcubs22xx
12-05-2010, 07:12 AM
its possible but its just not gonna happen.

Not taking anything away from Rondo's game, but the record is simply too high. Rondo is a very good pg though, i like his game.

JayW_1023
12-05-2010, 07:17 AM
Peoples main knock on Rondo is his lack of shooting touch, but it never stopped Jason Kidd from being the best PG in the NBA when he was a New Jersey Net. Mr. John Stockton was never a big scorer either.

Rondo can dominate without having to score the basketball, and that's refreshing. And I think he can break the record.

The PG of today is the Rose-Westbrook-Wall prototype. Big, fast, strong and athletic...but I love Rondo's game because he plays the PG the way it was played in the old days.

Bos_Sports4Life
12-05-2010, 11:04 AM
I sure love wacthing rondo play, but he already has some type of painful leg condition, and the only way it gets better is taking 1-2 months off. That and combined with the fact hes already missed a couple games, its not going to happen. I Think hes the best passer/ball distributer in the League, But the # he has to reach, is just too big

samevans7
12-05-2010, 11:47 AM
Top 5 Points in 1 game in the Playoffs (career) for the Top 4 PG:

1. 36-DR
2. 35-DW
3. 32-CP
4. 29-RR

Top 5 Assists in 1 game in the Playoffs (career) for the Top 4 PG:

1. 19-RR
2. 17-DW
3. 13-CP
4. 11-DR

Top 5 Rebounds in 1 game in the Playoffs (career) for the Top 4 PG:

1. 18 RR
2. 11-DR
3. 9-DW
4. 6-CP

Rondo is just with them in scoring, leads the way is assists, and dominates the boards. Rondo is a top PG

Frrrrank!!!
12-05-2010, 12:21 PM
He could do it, but I see him coming up just short.

northsider
12-05-2010, 12:22 PM
I ****ing hate Rondo but, when I think of every attribute a PG should have he fits the bill to a T. He is very well rounded and he is utilizing the fact he has great shooters around him and he does it at a high clip.

Mishmin
12-05-2010, 12:39 PM
It would be difficult, but if any modern pg could do it in this era, it would be him.

Hustlenomics
01-05-2011, 10:59 PM
Rondo with 22 assists tonight

DwayneMVPwade
01-05-2011, 11:10 PM
Yeah

Super.
01-05-2011, 11:11 PM
I hope so, but doubt it

benzni
01-05-2011, 11:14 PM
i think he can do it.

JiffyMix88
01-05-2011, 11:24 PM
yep he will only because apparently when you take a pass from rondo even if you did pump fake crossover and dribble to a hoop and its still considered a "assist" then there is no way he won't not break it

FadeAwayLikeMJ
01-05-2011, 11:52 PM
sure - anything is possible

:D I don't think anyone else got that

John Walls Era
01-06-2011, 12:10 AM
He has been incredible at passing. Sure hitting Ray with for a wide open 3 is easy, but those lobs to the inside to Shaq or Big Baby is right on target. Best passer in the league. With more games like today he can come close (won't break it due to injuries).

bigsams50
01-06-2011, 12:23 AM
Rrrrooonnnddddoooooo!!!!

dynasty7961
01-06-2011, 12:41 AM
he will

godolphins
01-06-2011, 02:11 AM
No

tonyd3b54
01-06-2011, 02:38 AM
hes not going to break it now because hes missed like 15 games and at the number hes at hes got to average over 18apg in order to beat the record. rondos amazing but hes not going to average 18apg for the rest of the year. if he didnt miss a game i have no doubt he wouldve broken the record tho...

godolphins
01-06-2011, 03:33 AM
Had another big night with 22 assist :speechless:

DoJoTheSlasher
01-06-2011, 03:38 AM
Average? Yeah but not for total. He's already missed too many games and could miss more. He'll be averaging around 13.5 at the end of the year.

cheaptrikz
01-06-2011, 03:56 AM
EDIT: Wow i was way off....no it doesnt look like it with all the time he missed

Sadds The Gr8
01-06-2011, 03:57 AM
Average? Yeah but not for total. He's already missed too many games and could miss more. He'll be averaging around 13.5 at the end of the year.

this. for average he has a chance, but not for total since he missed alot of games. It'd be impressive but kinda flawed.

NJrockPD
01-06-2011, 04:09 AM
I hope not, he's a dirtbag.

JasonJohnHorn
01-06-2011, 10:15 AM
:D I don't think anyone else got that

I got it!
:clap:

corky831
01-06-2011, 10:18 AM
ya he wont break that record.....but he may end up averaging 15 assists a game

RiLoc
01-06-2011, 11:25 AM
Assists total for a season? To get to 1165, he'd have to get 844 in the next 48 games without missing any games. Meaning he'd have to average 17.58 assists per game the rest of the season. That won't happen, maybe next year if he stays healthy.

Assists per game for a season? The record is 14.54 and he's average 13.96 through 23 games. If he plays all 48 remaining games, he'll have to get 712 assists averaging 14.83 during that stretch. That is within reason, but I personally don't think it will happen.

dacreator101
01-06-2011, 11:47 AM
this guys just put up like 22 assist against the spurs last night...i think he can past it plus some if my numbers are right if he can boost his avg up a little more...


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