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Chi StateOfMind
12-03-2010, 02:52 PM
I know it's way early but if u had to pick the division winners for each division...who wins it and u can also predict if that team signs a major key free agent or makes a trade....

AL East: New York Yankees
AL Central: Chicago White Sox(If paulie comes back and trade quentin)
AL West: Los Angeles Angels
AL Wildcard: Boston Red Sox(Crawford not enough)

NL East: Atlanta Braves
NL Central: St. Louis Cardinals
NL West: San Francisco Giants
NL Wildcard: Philadelphia Phillies

And to win it all I would have to go with Philadelphia Phillies

Dodgers99
12-03-2010, 03:09 PM
Cliff Lee and Carl Crawford could change a lot in the AL. But the NL is pretty clear.

East: Phillies
Central: Cardinals
West: Giants
Wildcard: Braves or Reds

JNev
12-03-2010, 03:21 PM
Why is NL Central clear Cardinals?

Chi StateOfMind
12-03-2010, 03:28 PM
Why is NL Central clear Cardinals?

Because no one else in the divison are better that's why....milwaukee, chicago, pittsburgh have no chance. I give cincinnati a chance but i think they won't repeat like this year

JNev
12-03-2010, 03:29 PM
What have the Cards done to fix what went wrong and how have the Reds gotten worse

Chi StateOfMind
12-03-2010, 03:37 PM
It's not that one has got worse or better i just feel the cardinals pitching staff is WAYYY better then the reds and that is what wins games... i like the reds don't get me wrong i like new teams in the playoffs i just don't think they will be elite to win agai

Lou Holtz Lisp
12-03-2010, 04:01 PM
You have the Phillies winning the WC but winning the WS.. Uh.....

samevans7
12-03-2010, 04:06 PM
ik Dunn+Konerko is good, but Miggy+VMart is better

the angels will only win the division if they get crawford werth or beltre. otherwise, TX will

AL East will go either BOS or NYY, other is WC

agree with ATL; good pitching; Uggla will be good in their lineup

Central could go CIN or STL

West will be SF

WC will be the Rox

jkcronyn
12-03-2010, 04:12 PM
chi state of mind your a toolbox for making this thread 1. because not all the free agents have signed yet and 2. because you have the white sox winning the central. you forget the twins are in that division? the sox and tiggers are the sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee team they will be the exact same team with a similar record.

TheRuckus
12-03-2010, 04:20 PM
You have the Phillies winning the WC but winning the WS.. Uh.....

As we all know, a wild-card team has never, ever won the World Series ever before in the history of ever.

Ever.

yankswin27
12-03-2010, 04:27 PM
Nyy
chi
tex
bos

phi
cin
sf/col
atl

sexicano31
12-03-2010, 04:33 PM
As we all know, a wild-card team has never, ever won the World Series ever before in the history of ever.

Ever.

Never.

But i have to say that for the NL

East: Phils
Central: Reds(and anyone who thinks otherwise is just dumb)
West: Rockies? MAYBE Giants idk. West is up in the air for me
WC: Whoever finishes 2nd in the west/Braves although i still dont think they are that good

Muttman73
12-03-2010, 04:35 PM
Chicago White Sox 2011 Super Bowl Champions!!!

Bweezy for pres
12-03-2010, 04:39 PM
i think there have been 3 wild card winners.

Marlins (twice)
Angels (unfortunately agianst SF)
Redsox

jmoney23
12-03-2010, 04:39 PM
Going a little further...

NY Yanks
Twins
Tex
Bos

Phi
Cin
SF
Cards

Cy Youngs-Lee (on Tex), Halladay
MVPs-Cabrera, Pujols
ROY-Jesus Montero/Dom Brown

NY over Min
Tex over Bos
Phi over Stl
SF over Cin

NY over Tex
Phi over SF

Phi over NY

ATL#22
12-03-2010, 04:45 PM
As we all know, a wild-card team has never, ever won the World Series ever before in the history of ever.

Ever.

lol

At this point in the offseason I will predict that the Pirates will not win the NL East

Hunter48MVP
12-03-2010, 05:19 PM
Angels will the division if they sign Carl Crawford, Rafeal Soriano, and trade for a third baseman. Texas doesn't look like a contenter any more. Guerrero got them to the playoffs and if the lose him and Lee. I don't seem them as a challenge to the Angels.

JNev
12-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Have they added on the 2nd wildcard yet?

StriveGreatness
12-03-2010, 05:54 PM
AL Central: Detroit Tigers
AL East: NY Yankees
AL West: LA Angels
AL WC: Bostons Red Sox

NL Central: St. Louis Cardinals
NL East: Philadelphia Phillies
NL West: San Fransisco Giants
NL WC: LA Dodgers

metsfaninSTL
12-03-2010, 06:47 PM
ALE: Yankees or Red Sox or Rays or Blue Jays or Orioles
ALC: Twins or Royals or Indians or White Sox or Tigers
ALW: Rangers or A's or Angels or Mariners
NLE: Braves or Mets or Phillies or Marlins or Nationals
NLC: Cardinals or Reds or Cubs or Pirates or Brewers or Astros
NLW: DBacks or Rockies or Giants or Dodgers or Padres

WAAAAAYYYYYYYY to early to pick. The offseason has only been about 1 month.

Halopower31
12-03-2010, 08:20 PM
Yankees
Twins, only if they get Pavano back but otherwise i say White Sox
Angels, No way the players the get this offseason wont help them win a division
Wild Card:Boston

Phillies
Cardnials
Rockies
Wild Card:Giants

World Series: Angels and Phillies

Angels in 7

sexicano31
12-03-2010, 08:36 PM
i think there have been 3 wild card winners.

Marlins (twice)
Angels (unfortunately agianst SF)
Redsox

Also the 06 cards aka the worst team to ever win the WS ever

SouljahPhil...
12-03-2010, 09:12 PM
too early too tell... winter meetings have not started yet..Plus If yanks don't sign lee I think Redsox takes the east...

Mike Oxlong
12-03-2010, 09:42 PM
ALE: Yankees or Red Sox or Rays or Blue Jays or Orioles
ALC: Twins or Royals or Indians or White Sox or Tigers
ALW: Rangers or A's or Angels or Mariners
NLE: Braves or Mets or Phillies or Marlins or Nationals
NLC: Cardinals or Reds or Cubs or Pirates or Brewers or Astros
NLW: DBacks or Rockies or Giants or Dodgers or Padres

WAAAAAYYYYYYYY to early to pick. The offseason has only been about 1 month.

This. We don't even know what the teams are gonna look like yet! :laugh2:

d79cheese
12-03-2010, 11:48 PM
Also the 06 cards aka the worst team to ever win the WS ever

they actually won the central that year with like 83 wins.

Giants-49ers-Ws
12-04-2010, 12:08 AM
Lincecum..Bumgarner..Cain..Sanchez...Giants Repeat--all that matters

Young2Kinsler
12-04-2010, 12:31 AM
LMAO this is so dumb. Let's see what happens in the offseason first.

Jeffy25
12-04-2010, 12:33 AM
What have the Cards done to fix what went wrong and how have the Reds gotten worse

The Reds are completely full of career year players. They outperformed any and all expectations the most. Cardinals underperformed greatly as well. You can't really count on career years from guys over 35 to repeat those years again.

Cardinals had a laundry list of underperforming seasons. As long as Carp and Waino combine for 50 starts and Pujols and Holliday start 140 games each, the Cardinals are the favorite in a very week NL Central.

Milwaukee could surprise, so could Cincy again, but it's not something to expect.

Based on Pythagorean records alone, the Reds were the most overperfomed, highest WAR team in baseball, while the Cardinals were pretty awful.

You re-do 2010, Cardinals win the NL Central 8 out of 10 times.


And sorry to the OP, it's just way too early to tell anything, there will be so much movement and changes, and injuries, that we just can't predict anything yet.

It's fun to speculate of course.

Young2Kinsler
12-04-2010, 12:33 AM
Also glad to see just like last year the Rangers have no shot. Angels fans take us as "not even a challenge"

Jeffy25
12-04-2010, 12:44 AM
Also glad to see just like last year the Rangers have no shot. Angels fans take us as "not even a challenge"

Hey I would rather be the team with no expectations rather than the team with the target on my back.

Sneak in and win again, **** it.

Rangers have an AL crown to defend

iggypop123
12-04-2010, 01:04 AM
they actually won the central that year with like 83 wins.

they nearly lost a 6 game lead in a week too right?

Jeffy25
12-04-2010, 01:15 AM
they nearly lost a 6 game lead in a week too right?

yes, Cardinals were very bad and injury plagued that year. But they got hot and healthy at the right time and beat the best team in the Mets. The Tigers beat themselves, Cardinals just had to show up and win the series.

Cardinals were a much better team in 04 and 05, and were slipping in 06 and got lucky. They could have won 04 if the Red Sox were not on such an incredible high after beating the Yanks

In 05 Beltran beat the Cardinals by himself

mttwlsn16
12-04-2010, 01:41 AM
I know it's way early but if u had to pick the division winners for each division...who wins it and u can also predict if that team signs a major key free agent or makes a trade....

AL East: New York Yankees
AL Central: Chicago White Sox(If paulie comes back and trade quentin)
AL West: Los Angeles Angels
AL Wildcard: Boston Red Sox(Crawford not enough)

NL East: Atlanta Braves
NL Central: St. Louis Cardinals
NL West: San Francisco Giants
NL Wildcard: Philadelphia Phillies

And to win it all I would have to go with Philadelphia Phillies

i see NYY landing Lee and crawford...c squared will be on the verge of signing with boston, ie mark teixeira, then yanks come in and throw him a no brainer offer

Kinsm
12-04-2010, 01:43 AM
The Reds are completely full of career year players. They outperformed any and all expectations the most. Cardinals underperformed greatly as well. You can't really count on career years from guys over 35 to repeat those years again.

Cardinals had a laundry list of underperforming seasons. As long as Carp and Waino combine for 50 starts and Pujols and Holliday start 140 games each, the Cardinals are the favorite in a very week NL Central.

Milwaukee could surprise, so could Cincy again, but it's not something to expect.

Based on Pythagorean records alone, the Reds were the most overperfomed, highest WAR team in baseball, while the Cardinals were pretty awful.

You re-do 2010, Cardinals win the NL Central 8 out of 10 times.

And sorry to the OP, it's just way too early to tell anything, there will be so much movement and changes, and injuries, that we just can't predict anything yet.

It's fun to speculate of course.

Put down the pipe, the Reds are a young team...those players should continue to progress (Bruce, Stubbs, Cueto, Bailey, Chapman, etc...). If they can fix or add to their SS/LF positions they should be even better.

They were picked by many to be the sleeper team in the NL prior to the season.

Who had a career year? Especially players over 35?

They had an easy schedule, but so did the Cards.

Some of your comments are great, some are dumb as %*@$.

By no means are the Reds run away favorites, but since the Cards have done nothing thus far this offseason the Reds are still the favorite in the division.

mttwlsn16
12-04-2010, 01:45 AM
AL east NYY
AL cent MIN
AL west LAA
AL wc TEX

NL east PHI
NL cent CIN
NL west LAD
NL wc SFG

1st rd. AL Yanks beat Tex..revenge
Min beat LAA...finally past 1st rd
1st rd. NL Phi beats SF...again revenge
Cin beat LAD

ALCS Yanks beat Min...again
NLCS Phi beat Cin

WS Yanks beat Phil

jkcronyn
12-04-2010, 01:48 AM
hasn't ny said they dont have interest in crawford?

SouljahPhil...
12-04-2010, 01:50 AM
hasn't ny said they dont have interest in crawford?

in recent days they change their stance...

But I think its still to drive the price up..

d79cheese
12-04-2010, 01:55 AM
Put down the pipe, the Reds are a young team...those players should continue to progress (Bruce, Stubbs, Cueto, Bailey, Chapman, etc...). If they can fix or add to their SS/LF positions they should be even better.

They were picked by many to be the sleeper team in the NL prior to the season.

Who had a career year? Especially players over 35?

They had an easy schedule, but so did the Cards.

Some of your comments are great, some are dumb as %*@$.

By no means are the Reds run away favorites, but since the Cards have done nothing thus far this offseason the Reds are still the favorite in the division.

ummm hello....does ryan theriot ring a bell????

Jeffy25
12-04-2010, 01:58 AM
Put down the pipe, the Reds are a young team...those players should continue to progress (Bruce, Stubbs, Cueto, Bailey, Chapman, etc...). If they can fix or add to their SS/LF positions they should be even better.

They were picked by many to be the sleeper team in the NL prior to the season.

Who had a career year? Especially players over 35?

They had an easy schedule, but so did the Cards.

Some of your comments are great, some are dumb as %*@$.

By no means are the Reds run away favorites, but since the Cards have done nothing thus far this offseason the Reds are still the favorite in the division.

Rhodes, Rolen, Ramon Hernandez, Bronson Arroyo, Francisco Cordero.

Maybe they didn't all have career years, but they all had very good years considering their ages and projections.

Most of these guys had the best season they have had in 5 plus years, or it was a career year.

Orlando Cabrera actually had a down year, so I certainly can't count him.

None of these players were projected to even come close to their numbers in 2010, and certainly that hasn't changed for 2011.

Yes, they have a very good young core, but they need more role players, which Jocketty is doing a great job of assembling the Reds to be the best team of the next decade. Cardinals are still the favorite for 2011, unless Moz keeps tearing the team down like he is. Reds are going to be the best NL central team of this next decade, but they aren't complete yet.


on the players you mentioned, I don't know that Chapman will be more than a lefty specialist in his career, if he can become a starter, then watch out. Homer Bailey's potential is probably about matched, while the other three should continue to improve, Stubbs is a weird one, nothing like his minor league career. I am curious what Walt will do with Alonso though.

Chi StateOfMind
12-04-2010, 02:27 AM
I love how people come in here and say its way too early who gives a ******* if its too early then dont say nuthin on to the next one..... its a discussion give ur opinion and thats it

Swishalicious
12-04-2010, 02:32 AM
I love how people come in here and say its way too early who gives a ******* if its too early then dont say nuthin on to the next one..... its a discussion give ur opinion and thats it

:clap:

sexicano31
12-04-2010, 02:38 AM
they actually won the central that year with like 83 wins.

Well i stand corrected. Just assumed the low win total= WC. Still a terrible team

Mike Oxlong
12-04-2010, 04:40 PM
I love how people come in here and say its way too early who gives a ******* if its too early then dont say nuthin on to the next one..... its a discussion give ur opinion and thats it

It's too early.

jd25213
12-04-2010, 04:56 PM
hasn't ny said they dont have interest in crawford?

They've always loved Crawford with their outfield the way it is they don't really need him.

rsteeley91
12-04-2010, 04:59 PM
Al east: Boston red sox ( just acquired adrian gonzalez and could sign werth or crawford)
al west: Texas rangers
al central: Chicago white sox
al wildcard: New york yankees

nl east: Philadelphia phillies
nl west: San fransisco giants
nl central: Cincinnati reds
nl wildcard: St. Louis cardinals

playoffs:
Red sox vs. White sox rangers vs. Yankees
phillies vs. Cardinals reds vs. Giants

red sox vs. Yankees
phillies vs. Giants

red sox vs. Phillies
red sox win in 6