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MooseWithFleas
12-02-2010, 05:49 PM
The Chicago White Sox are closing in on a four-year, $56-million deal for free-agent slugger Adam Dunn, according to a major-league source with knowledge of the situation.

The news will be something of a relief to the Angels, because Dunn, a first baseman who hit .260 with 38 home runs and 103 runs batted in for the Washington Nationals last season, was reportedly considering an offer from the American League West-rival Oakland Athletics.

Source: Mike DiGiovanna of the LA Times (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/12/chicago-white-sox-closing-in-on-four-year-56-million-deal-for-slugger-adam-dunn.html)


Dunn is 4/$56 with White Sox

Source: Peter Gammons (http://twitter.com/pgammo/status/10449469833220096)


#mlb #whitesox Sox still want to bring back Konerko too.

Source: Bob Nightengale from USA Today (http://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/10453043577360384)

-Lavigne43-
12-02-2010, 05:50 PM
Variety of sources


SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
dunn deal is basically done, no pun intended. told he got "a bit less" than the $60 mil, 4-yr asking price from #chisox


Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Confirming report by @SI_JonHeyman: White Sox on verge with Dunn. #MLB


pgammo Peter Gammons
Dunn is 4/$56 with White Sox

MooseWithFleas
12-02-2010, 05:54 PM
Good deal if he doesn't see the field too much. If the White Sox can retain Konerko for a year or two, this puts them near the top with the Twins.

CityofTreez
12-02-2010, 05:55 PM
Whole lotta pop in that lineup now :speechless:

Kinda relieved to see Dunn leave our division as well

VRP723
12-02-2010, 05:56 PM
Who else is the pop in their lineup?

Ragun
12-02-2010, 05:57 PM
good signing...but bye-bye konerko?

YanksNats1987
12-02-2010, 05:59 PM
So Nats will get the White Sox 23rd pick.

DLEE4MVP
12-02-2010, 06:00 PM
Who else is the pop in their lineup?

Quentin hit 26 while missing time, Rios hit 21 and Alexei had 18...Not to mention if they bring back Konerko he had 39...

MooseWithFleas
12-02-2010, 06:01 PM
Unless the White Sox sign a higher ranked FA than Dunn, which is unlikely.

Cubsfan365
12-02-2010, 06:08 PM
I'm guessing they lose Konerko now, so I think that pretty much makes this deal a wash.

chisox..YES!
12-02-2010, 06:08 PM
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/10447421322563584

fadedmario
12-02-2010, 06:14 PM
Twins finish third next year

chi-townlove1
12-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Who else is the pop in their lineup?

I agree...who else with pop in that lineup?...

CityofTreez
12-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Who else is the pop in their lineup?

Ramirez, Konerko, Quentin, Beckhmam, & Rios?

Granted, they gotta make contact, but not a bad offensive lineup

xabial
12-02-2010, 06:23 PM
what an underrated signing. Dunn can rlly be a difference maker for the next few yrs.

zambo4president
12-02-2010, 06:24 PM
I hate the White Sox and I now hate Adam Dunn.

JDIsMyGod23
12-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Our idiot fans are going to hate him, it's already started. God, I hate Chicago fans.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm guessing they lose Konerko now, so I think that pretty much makes this deal a wash.lol? A wash? :rolleyes: :facepalm:

keymax
12-02-2010, 06:29 PM
Our idiot fans are going to hate him, it's already started. God, I hate Chicago fans.

The majority of the fans absolutely loved Jim Thome, Dunn is just a 8 year younger version of him. I don't see where the problem is. There will always be people who complain about anything and want to field a lineup of slap hitters.

iggypop123
12-02-2010, 06:30 PM
i guess detroit is struggling as a city but not the tigers

keymax
12-02-2010, 06:31 PM
I'm guessing they lose Konerko now, so I think that pretty much makes this deal a wash.

http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/10447421322563584

According to Cowley(so take it with a grain of salt) we are close to resign Konerko

JDIsMyGod23
12-02-2010, 06:32 PM
The majority of the fans absolutely loved Jim Thome, Dunn is just a 8 year younger version of him. I don't see where the problem is. There will always be people who complain about anything and want to field a lineup of slap hitters.

Our fans liked Thome mostly because of the "class guy" BS. No one knows about Dunn. My friend already texted me saying the cliche stuff.

fadedmario
12-02-2010, 06:34 PM
Dunn is a monster.

Young2Kinsler
12-02-2010, 06:35 PM
Dunn was the most impactful bat on the market, so good signing. Would have loved him in Texas. From what I know, Dunn wants to play the field, so if he's getting time at 1st, I can't see them keeping Konerko as well.

dodgersuck
12-02-2010, 06:36 PM
Nice signing for the Chi Sox, this is a very good response to the Tigers landing Victor Martinez

Cubsfan365
12-02-2010, 06:38 PM
lol? A wash? :rolleyes: :facepalm:
Konerko: .312, 39 HR, 111 RBI, .393 OBP, .584 SLG
Dunn: .260, 38 HR, 103 RBI, .356 OBP, .536 SLG

Actually Konerko was better in every single category and IMO is way better defensively, so the Sox would probably be worse off if they don't re-sign Konerko. Pretty simple

Hunter48MVP
12-02-2010, 06:39 PM
WOW! Great day for the White Sox. Signing Adam Dunn and maybe Paul Konerko

Pierzynski4Prez
12-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Our fans liked Thome mostly because of the "class guy" BS. No one knows about Dunn. My friend already texted me saying the cliche stuff.

So your 1 buddy represents a majority of the sox fan base?

abe_froman
12-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Dunn was the most impactful bat on the market, so good signing. Would have loved him in Texas. From what I know, Dunn wants to play the field, so if he's getting time at 1st, I can't see them keeping Konerko as well.

it might go against a dream scenario ,but you could always place one or the other at dh.give dunn just enough time there to keep him happy while dhing him mostly

redwhitenblue
12-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Konerko: .312, 39 HR, 111 RBI, .393 OBP, .584 SLG
Dunn: .260, 38 HR, 103 RBI, .356 OBP, .536 SLG

Actually Konerko was better in every single category and IMO is way better defensively, so the Sox would probably be worse off if they don't re-sign Konerko. Pretty simple
Career year for Konerko, slightly down year for Dunn.

eXpLiiCt
12-02-2010, 06:45 PM
Mother ****ing Tigers, time to get Jayson Werth GURANTEED, said we'd get Victor we did now I gurantee we get P Konorkoe or Werth

Cubsfan365
12-02-2010, 06:50 PM
Career year for Konerko, slightly down year for Dunn.
For career numbers, Dunn has had slightly better power numbers and OBP, but Konerko is significantly better when it comes to hitting for average, less strikeouts, and I think plays much better defense. Still think it's a wash if they lose Konerko

One Nut Kruk
12-02-2010, 06:53 PM
The only time in 10 years he has even sniffed the post season was when Arizona traded for him in 2008. Then they subsequently blew their 1st place lead. Adam Dunn has monster power but is a loser year in and year out. And I hope that trend continues.

Pierzynski4Prez
12-02-2010, 06:54 PM
For career numbers, Dunn has had slightly better power numbers and OBP, but Konerko is significantly better when it comes to hitting for average, less strikeouts, and I think plays much better defense. Still think it's a wash if they lose Konerko

except dunn is just a little under 4 years younger than paulie

JDIsMyGod23
12-02-2010, 06:55 PM
So your 1 buddy represents a majority of the sox fan base?

Do you listen to the majority of fan bases? If you honestly think the majority of White Sox fan base is smart. Wow. The same fanbase that still thinks we won the championship 5 years ago from smallball. That is the majority I'm talking about.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Konerko: .312, 39 HR, 111 RBI, .393 OBP, .584 SLG
Dunn: .260, 38 HR, 103 RBI, .356 OBP, .536 SLG

Actually Konerko was better in every single category and IMO is way better defensively, so the Sox would probably be worse off if they don't re-sign Konerko. Pretty simpleI guess it takes a Cubs fan who doesn't pay attention to the team next door to make a post like that.

ritz
12-02-2010, 07:12 PM
"Knowing that we had one of the three top free agents on our team and we didn't want to resign him, it's frustrating for us as players," Zimmerman said. "We're not in the front office. We don't make the decisions, and we don't have to write the checks. But we're getting to the point on our team where we're supposed to wait it out, wait for the young guys, start doing some things and start making some moves. Not only are we ready for that, I think the fans are, as well. We've trusted the front office, and we still trust them. But we want to best possible team on the field."

http://www.masnsports.com/the_goessling_game/2010/12/ryan-zimmerman-on-adam-dunns-departure.html

I know that Dunn's a butcher in the field, but there's no denying that Zimmerman and Dunn in the middle of that line-up is a hell of a punch. I don't think Zimmerman was trying to put the FO out, but it doesn't seem like he's too happy. :shrug:

DeyAce
12-02-2010, 07:13 PM
Yes!!!!!

sager729
12-02-2010, 07:13 PM
That is why the Sox will have both Konerko and Dunn in the lineup. That would give them this lineup

1. Pierre LF
2. Beckham 2B
3. Rios CF
4. Konerko 1B
5. Dunn DH
6. Quentin RF
7. Ramirez SS
8. C
9. Morel/Viciedo 3B

Flowers and Castro are the catchers right now on the roster. Olivo and Pierzynski are other catchers that are being linked to the Sox.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 07:15 PM
Now all we need to do is resign Manny, Jenks and Freddy and were set!

TheRuckus
12-02-2010, 07:17 PM
If they re-sign Konerko, either Dunn or Quentin will have to play in the outfield.

It also raises the possibility of Ozzie Guillen running a Dunn-Pierre-Quentin outfield out there at some point, which would be the most hilariously bad outfield in the history of baseball.

I hope that happens.


Mother ****ing Tigers, time to get Jayson Werth GURANTEED, said we'd get Victor we did now I gurantee we get P Konorkoe or Werth

You can have Konerko, leave Werth alone.

Rent-a-Hero
12-02-2010, 07:18 PM
I was really hoping the O's could pick him up.

-RaH-

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 07:20 PM
It also raises the possibility of Ozzie Guillen running a Dunn-Pierre-Quentin outfield out there at some point, which would be the most hilariously bad outfield in the history of baseball.

I hope that happens.
WTF are you talking about?

Tragedy
12-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Damn, this sucks. Dunn has been with the Nationals, and they're finally realizing their potential, and now he leaves the team. That sucks.

ugafan
12-02-2010, 07:24 PM
If they re-sign Konerko, either Dunn or Quentin will have to play in the outfield.

It also raises the possibility of Ozzie Guillen running a Dunn-Pierre-Quentin outfield out there at some point, which would be the most hilariously bad outfield in the history of baseball.

I hope that happens.

I'm not sure they know how bad Quentin is defensively yet. I would cry tears of some unknown emotion if they did that. I will put $5 dollars towards Dunn's salary to see that.

chi-townlove1
12-02-2010, 07:29 PM
Ramirez, Konerko, Quentin, Beckhmam, & Rios?

Granted, they gotta make contact, but not a bad offensive lineup

Ramirez and Beckham have no pop in there bats. if they make contact its very rarely a big hit. Konerko? he will no longer be with the team. And Quentin and Rios can light it up on occasion, but just very solid hitters.

Cubsfan365
12-02-2010, 07:29 PM
I guess it takes a Cubs fan who doesn't pay attention to the team next door to make a post like that.
LOL nice argument. :rolleyes: You didn't say anything pertaining to the thread. I said that Konerko was clearly superior last year, and it is obvious from those stats that he was.

Ty Fast
12-02-2010, 07:29 PM
that is a lot of money

LeBitteNoir
12-02-2010, 07:30 PM
HUGE signing. We going to win the World Series this year for sure.

Sox72
12-02-2010, 07:30 PM
Career year for Konerko, slightly down year for Dunn.

I'd still take Konerko any day over Dunn. And I'll gladly take them both.

bagwell368
12-02-2010, 07:32 PM
Konerko: .312, 39 HR, 111 RBI, .393 OBP, .584 SLG
Dunn: .260, 38 HR, 103 RBI, .356 OBP, .536 SLG

Actually Konerko was better in every single category and IMO is way better defensively, so the Sox would probably be worse off if they don't re-sign Konerko. Pretty simple

That's bogus Jack. Konerko just finished up is career season and a total outlier, why don't you go back a few more years and dredge up all his crappy years?

Konerko OPS+ since start of 2007: 116, 102, 114, 158
A. Dunn OPS+ since start of 2007: 132, 126, 144, 138

Nice try..................

MattColby
12-02-2010, 07:32 PM
Good signing for both.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 07:34 PM
LOL nice argument. :rolleyes: You didn't say anything pertaining to the thread. I said that Konerko was clearly superior last year, and it is obvious from those stats that he was.Because you're argumemt blows. Konerko had a career year, the expectations for Konerko are, and should not be anywhere near what he did last year. This being said while Dunn is younger, and a much more consistent power numbers guy. I think it's hilarious you think you're actually saying anything that's making me look bad. Cute.

It's not a wash, you're wrong. Konerko isn't getting a $56 million dollar deal this offseason for a reason. He is not as good as Dunn. I think you need another outlet about your disappointment about the Cubs going the rebuilding route instead of bashing the Sox Dunn signing.

cambovenzi
12-02-2010, 07:35 PM
Nicely "Dunn" :hide:

Hes definitely a great bat.

keymax
12-02-2010, 07:35 PM
If they re-sign Konerko, either Dunn or Quentin will have to play in the outfield.



Why? My guess is that Dunn and PK share 1B and DH duties and Dunn would only play the OF during interleague play.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 07:38 PM
Why? My guess is that Dunn and PK share 1B and DH duties and Dunn would only play the OF during interleague play.He said either Dunn or Quentin. Either Quentin is playing RF or he's being traded, there really is no other option because he's not going to DH with both PK and Dunn on the team.

keymax
12-02-2010, 07:39 PM
Ramirez and Beckham have no pop in there bats. if they make contact its very rarely a big hit. Konerko? he will no longer be with the team. And Quentin and Rios can light it up on occasion, but just very solid hitters.

Ramirez 21; 15; 18 HR from the SS position, I'd call that pop in his bat.
I expect Beckham to hit between 15-20 HR with 30-35 doubles, what are you talking about?

keymax
12-02-2010, 07:40 PM
He said either Dunn or Quentin. Either Quentin is playing RF or he's being traded, there really is no other option because he's not going to DH with both PK and Dunn on the team.

Should work on my reading comprehension...

sager729
12-02-2010, 07:41 PM
All these people saying that Dunn won't DH at all are just stupid. Last I checked, Ozzie is the manager and not Dunn. He will be the DH a majority of the time.

StriveGreatness
12-02-2010, 07:42 PM
Dang it! :mad:

Good signing. Verlander, Scherzer and Ricky better step their game up. I'm expecting a big season from Scherzer.

White Sox are looking good. Maybe could use an arm in the BP but other than that, they look like a legit threat next season. Already can't wait for April! :)

StriveGreatness
12-02-2010, 07:51 PM
Advantages in the AL Central:

Lineup? The advantage probably goes to Chicago...right now. Have to see what else unfolds.

Pitching Staff? Once again, I'd say the Sox. Sure the Tigs have a good 1-2-3 punch but the Sox rotation is more complete.

Bullpen? I'd give it to Minny or Detroit. Depending on Benoit. If Benoit has a year like last, Detroit should have a really good BP. Got Daniel Schlereth (Should take a huge step in progress), Ryan Perry (My nickname for him is Perrosine. He's either really good or AWFUL), Benoit, Coke (Maybe. He might go to the starting rotation but I don't like that idea), Zumaya (Hopefully he can come back strong) Brad Thomas (Is okay. More of a long relief guy or a spot starter), Jose Valverde (Hopefully he has a COMPLETE season and not a good first half but awful 2nd). Still would like to see another lefty added to the Tigers BP.

soxnfins
12-02-2010, 07:54 PM
Mother ****ing Tigers, time to get Jayson Werth GURANTEED, said we'd get Victor we did now I gurantee we get P Konorkoe or Werth

Konerko****

And no way in hell he goes to DET. Not a chance in HELL.:facepalm:

Max Power
12-02-2010, 07:54 PM
The way the ball carries from right center to the pole in that park, he's a legitimate 50 HR candidate. There will be idiots in the media who'll harp on his K's, while ignoring his ability to reach base, to critique this move. And they'll be wrong.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 07:56 PM
Should work on my reading comprehension...That's fine, you're mind if probably just moving so quickly because you're as excited as all the other Sox fans. (besides the complainers)

soxnfins
12-02-2010, 07:57 PM
If they re-sign Konerko, either Dunn or Quentin will have to play in the outfield.

It also raises the possibility of Ozzie Guillen running a Dunn-Pierre-Quentin :facepalm:outfield out there at some point, which would be the most hilariously bad outfield in the history of baseball.

I hope that happens.



You can have Konerko, leave Werth alone.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/stumpfreeman/cards%20for%20trade/White%20Sox/AlexRioschrome1018of1961WhiteSox2010ToppsChromeC11 5.jpg

"Where do I fit in Coach? Put me in Coach!"

soxnfins
12-02-2010, 07:58 PM
I love me some Adam "Get the JOB" DUNN on the South Side!!!


Now just gimmie my Paulie back and we'll be OK :)

StriveGreatness
12-02-2010, 08:00 PM
Can a White Sox fan give me your updated lineup? I want to compare the Tigs and Sox lineups. (Sorry. I can't remember the Sox players. Not in baseball mode yet :))

StriveGreatness
12-02-2010, 08:01 PM
Did someone seriously say that the Tigers would get Paul Konerko? The Tigers have absolutely no need for him. Plus he wouldn't come to Detroit anyways.

Algmuskrats
12-02-2010, 08:03 PM
Good job getting Dunn White Sox.
And with that said, I hope he doesn't pull his hammy to much trying to dive for a ball in the outfield.

Algmuskrats
12-02-2010, 08:06 PM
Konerko****

And no way in hell he goes to DET. Not a chance in HELL.:facepalm:

Agreed. If Konerko goes to Detroit...I don't know how well he would be welcomed by the fans. I can't see him wearing the old english D.

DaSox_05
12-02-2010, 08:07 PM
:dance:

Algmuskrats
12-02-2010, 08:07 PM
not ********.......all i heard when i kept saying that chicago would be better than detroit even if detroit landed dunn is that i was just jealous. haha!!!! now, we are getting dunn and are still going to be better than you guys!!!! its just so ironic

I wouldn't go so far by saying "Still going to be better than you guys", thats kind of a homer right now. Being a Tigers fan, all I can say that the Sox have on the Tigers currently, is the starting rotation.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-02-2010, 08:09 PM
Can a White Sox fan give me your updated lineup? I want to compare the Tigs and Sox lineups. (Sorry. I can't remember the Sox players. Not in baseball mode yet :))
1) Pierre (LF)
2) Ramirez (SS)
3) Rios (CF)
4) Dunn (DH/1B)
5) Quentin (RF)
6) Morel/Vizquel (3B)
7) Beckham (2B)
8) Viciedo (1B/DH)
9) Castro/Flowers (C)

DaSox_05
12-02-2010, 08:14 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/12/white-sox-may-be-close-to-signing-adam-dunn.html

Guess JD was right check out the idiotic comments on the bottom of the page.

StriveGreatness
12-02-2010, 08:16 PM
1) Pierre (LF)
2) Ramirez (SS)
3) Rios (CF)
4) Dunn (DH/1B)
5) Quentin (RF)
6) Morel/Vizquel (3B)
7) Beckham (2B)
8) Viciedo (1B/DH)
9) Castro/Flowers (C)

That's a good lineup. I think Beckham breaks out next season. I can't stand him, though. ;)

Tigers Lineup (Projected) :

1. CF Austin Jackson
2. 2B Will Ryhmes
3. C Victor Martinez
4. 1B Miguel Cabrera
5. LF Ryan Raburn
6. SS Jhonny Peralta
7. RF Casper Wells
8. DH Brennan Boesch
9. 3B Brandon Inge

Like I said, the White Sox probably have the better lineup as of right now....but we will have to see what else the Tigers, Twins and Sox do this offseason.

Jeffy25
12-02-2010, 08:16 PM
Great deal for the White Sox, smart move.

WindyCityFlyer
12-02-2010, 08:18 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/12/white-sox-may-be-close-to-signing-adam-dunn.html

Guess JD was right check out the idiotic comments on the bottom of the page.

Lots of jealous Cubs fans posting there too.

*Disclaimer* In no way am I making fun of Cubs fans here.

Mell413
12-02-2010, 08:20 PM
It's a nice move, but I don't think it puts them ahead of the Twins. Dunn basically replaces what Konerko did last year. He's a good bat, but I still like the Twins. Sox still have holes at 3rd, RF, C, and LF. Beckham needs to hit too for the Sox to have a chance. The Tigers still have some money to spend so it can be an interesting race in the AL Central. I wouldn't have gone 4 years though. Players like him tend to not age well. This is coming from someone who loves Dunn. By the time the deal is near complete teams like the Royals will be ready to make their move.

Sick Of It All
12-02-2010, 08:33 PM
Great move by the ChiSox specially if he DH's.

DaBear
12-02-2010, 08:37 PM
I like how Cubs fans talk more about the Sox than their own team, and think they know more too.

fadedmario
12-02-2010, 08:45 PM
Tigers are pursuing Werth

YanksNats1987
12-02-2010, 08:45 PM
My only concern on the White Sox end is that Dunn likes to play the field. I'm not sure how they're going to play him but I'm sure he's content with whatever since he signed.

Since 2004 he's played the most games than anybody with the exception of Ichiro, so he loves to play.

FarmioFan1
12-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Dunn is a monster.

This four word phrase is easily the smartest thought you've ever had on this website.

fadedmario
12-02-2010, 08:49 PM
This four word phrase is easily the smartest thought you've ever had on this website.

Thanks. The central will be tough this year for sure.

jmartin80
12-02-2010, 08:49 PM
As a White Sox fan, I am ecstatic.

momoneyyyy
12-02-2010, 08:51 PM
wish he went to oakland

Brave4life
12-02-2010, 09:21 PM
This makes me a really happy Braves fan

Nationals lose- Dunn
Marlins lose- Uggla
Phillies lose- Werth
Mets- eh

ugafan
12-02-2010, 09:30 PM
That's bogus Jack. Konerko just finished up is career season and a total outlier, why don't you go back a few more years and dredge up all his crappy years?

Konerko OPS+ since start of 2007: 116, 102, 114, 158
A. Dunn OPS+ since start of 2007: 132, 126, 144, 138

Nice try..................

Why do you use OPS+?

ugafan
12-02-2010, 09:34 PM
As a future Nationals fan, this is pretty frustrating. He wanted to come back and Kasten didn't get it done. :(

drew_ellis_23
12-02-2010, 09:50 PM
Solid signing. He should mash in Chi town

ChiSox219
12-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Great news, it feels like the White Sox have been linked to Dunn for years now, it will be good to see him lead the Majors in HRs next year.

gfixer33
12-02-2010, 11:36 PM
Good move al central closing gap on al east?

eXpLiiCt
12-02-2010, 11:39 PM
That's a good lineup. I think Beckham breaks out next season. I can't stand him, though. ;)

Tigers Lineup (Projected) :

1. CF Austin Jackson
2. 2B Will Ryhmes
3. C Victor Martinez
4. 1B Miguel Cabrera
5. LF Ryan Raburn
6. SS Jhonny Peralta
7. RF Casper Wells
8. DH Brennan Boesch
9. 3B Brandon Inge

Like I said, the White Sox probably have the better lineup as of right now....but we will have to see what else the Tigers, Twins and Sox do this offseason.

Get of the White Sox dick god damn

Ezio
12-02-2010, 11:43 PM
Great move. He's going to hit so many homeruns.

ATL#22
12-02-2010, 11:51 PM
Twins finish third next year

Indians and Royals 1st and 2nd respectively ?

The Jokemaker
12-02-2010, 11:57 PM
Love(!) this signing. That is a hitter's park and you put in a guy with the power like Dunn then good things will happen. Interested to see how this will impact the other guys in the lineup. The central just got a lot more competitive!

ATL#22
12-02-2010, 11:58 PM
All these people saying that Dunn won't DH at all are just stupid. Last I checked, Ozzie is the manager and not Dunn. He will be the DH a majority of the time.
Lol. No your manager is stupid. He willingly used Kotsay and Vizquel at DH last year . Dunn won't DH he will probably play SS

Rdy2PlayBall
12-03-2010, 01:14 AM
Get of the White Sox dick god damnHahaha, you mad?

The Sox lineup is good, it's not better, but I would think their close if they get back Konerko. It's definitely more balanced, Detroit's defense is next to terrible.

bagwell368
12-03-2010, 01:29 AM
Good move al central closing gap on al east?

no....

quade36
12-03-2010, 01:35 AM
Lol. No your manager is stupid. He willingly used Kotsay and Vizquel at DH last year . Dunn won't DH he will probably play SS

Ozzie may be loud, obnoxious, rude, and egotistical. But he certainly isn't stupid when it comes to baseball. Besides his antics, he is a very good manager, one highly touted by other teams.

Whats stupid is when people try to claim others are stupid yet make a suggestion like Dunn playing SS, even as a mockery. :facepalm:

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 01:38 AM
Central will be better than the east this year

TheGiantYankee
12-03-2010, 01:53 AM
Lucky :(

One of my favorite player in the league, maybe top 3. Also Ozzie is a smart guy.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-03-2010, 01:58 AM
no....It's not like the Rays are getting any better, and the Red Sox still have some work to do (and heal up). Why not?...

The Sox could easily win 4 more games with Dunn, the Sox had HORRIBLE DH production. Plus, Beckham finally broke out of his sophmore slump batting over .300 after the all-star break. Those two players alone and the Sox have 5-6 more wins. Honestly.

All they need is Konerko and the Central could get the wild card if the Twins can keep being lucky.

Sockeye
12-03-2010, 02:06 AM
Finally.... I've been pining for Dunn for almost 2 years now.....

:clap:

Ty Fast
12-03-2010, 02:23 AM
Lol. No your manager is stupid. He willingly used Kotsay and Vizquel at DH last year . Dunn won't DH he will probably play SS

That wouldn’t surprise me

Ty Fast
12-03-2010, 02:27 AM
My only concern on the White Sox end is that Dunn likes to play the field. I'm not sure how they're going to play him but I'm sure he's content with whatever since he signed.

Since 2004 he's played the most games than anybody with the exception of Ichiro, so he loves to play.

he could be playing a lot of 1st base if konerko walks

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 02:31 AM
It's not like the Rays are getting any better, and the Red Sox still have some work to do (and heal up). Why not?...

The Sox could easily win 4 more games with Dunn, the Sox had HORRIBLE DH production. Plus, Beckham finally broke out of his sophmore slump batting over .300 after the all-star break. Those two players alone and the Sox have 5-6 more wins. Honestly.

All they need is Konerko and the Central could get the wild card if the Twins can keep being lucky.

You forget about Detroit? You guys may have Dunn, but we got Cabrera.

Beastley8
12-03-2010, 02:35 AM
Haha, it's amazing how quick you guys are to forget about the Twins... Keep living in fantasy land where you win games on paper...

Getting lucky? Yeah, losing an All-Star closer before the season starts and an MVP halfway through is extremely lucky... lol.

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 02:45 AM
Detroit will probably end up getting Werth too. We'll be legit

MrIowa
12-03-2010, 07:35 AM
Haha, it's amazing how quick you guys are to forget about the Twins... Keep living in fantasy land where you win games on paper...

Getting lucky? Yeah, losing an All-Star closer before the season starts and an MVP halfway through is extremely lucky... lol.

Jim Thome didn't for the most part fill Morneau's shoes? Obviously there is no Twin that can do that, but honestly - what a luxury it was to have Thome just jump in there and mash like that? Big Jim would not have had those numbers had Morneau not got hurt, but I also do not think the Twins would have won the central without Thome coming off the bench like that.

TO to the CHI
12-03-2010, 08:24 AM
Jim Thome didn't for the most part fill Morneau's shoes? Obviously there is no Twin that can do that, but honestly - what a luxury it was to have Thome just jump in there and mash like that? Big Jim would not have had those numbers had Morneau not got hurt, but I also do not think the Twins would have won the central without Thome coming off the bench like that.

Can you explain why Thome would not have hit as well if Morneau had stayed healthy? I really don't see the correlation.

quade36
12-03-2010, 09:56 AM
Haha, it's amazing how quick you guys are to forget about the Twins... Keep living in fantasy land where you win games on paper...

Getting lucky? Yeah, losing an All-Star closer before the season starts and an MVP halfway through is extremely lucky... lol.

Its pretty bold and naive to complain about Twins lack of respect considering they'll probably be favored to win the division next year like they are every year. Your team is good you need to calm down. I think right now Tiger and Sox fans are excited because they are making moves. It would be the same for Twins fans, it was when they signed Mauer and Morneau to contract extensions.

Word that comes to mind, chill. Your team still gets respect. What are you going to say when all the experts in ESPN predict the Twins to win again? :facepalm:

DaSox_05
12-03-2010, 10:08 AM
I'm still :dance:

I75
12-03-2010, 10:09 AM
Poor fat man's Thome. Chicago panicking. Hurry sign someone fast before we say hi to the Tribe on the way down.

Ni55anpat
12-03-2010, 10:29 AM
^ you made me lolz at my desk

boomheadshot45
12-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Detroit will probably end up getting Werth too. We'll be legit
Great comedy here. So you expect one either the Red Sox or Angels to miss one of the top 2 outfielders in FA? I highly doubt he goes to Detroit. I see him playing at Fenway next year with CC going to Angels.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-03-2010, 10:35 AM
You forget about Detroit? You guys may have Dunn, but we got Cabrera.Detroit was a .500 team, Martinez didn't make them a 90+ win team. We'll see what happens, but Detroit isn't whats worrying me right now. They've got money to spend, which is something to worry about.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-03-2010, 10:37 AM
That wouldn’t surprise meWhat are you on?

JOSKOMANG4
12-03-2010, 11:06 AM
C- AJ(9)
1b- Dunn(4)
2b- Beckham(8)
SS- Ramirez(6)
3b- Viciendo(7)
LF- Pierre(1)
CF- Rios(2)
RF- Quentin(5)
DH- Konerko(3)

TheRuckus
12-03-2010, 11:13 AM
WTF are you talking about?



(Rios pic)
"Where do I fit in Coach? Put me in Coach!"

I'm aware Rios plays for the White Sox, thanks. That doesn't mean he couldn't be hurt or have a day off.

I don't think even Ozzie is that ********, but the mere possibility of such a "defensive" outfield fills me with lulz.

DaSox_05
12-03-2010, 11:17 AM
C- AJ(9)
1b- Dunn(4)
2b- Beckham(8)
SS- Ramirez(6)
3b- Viciendo(7)
LF- Pierre(1)
CF- Rios(2)
RF- Quentin(5)
DH- Konerko(3)



Ummm first off the Sox have yet to re-sign Konerko. If they do im 100% certain that Konerko plays 1B and Dunn DH's. Also Morel will be the starting 3B not Viciedo.

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 11:35 AM
Great comedy here. So you expect one either the Red Sox or Angels to miss one of the top 2 outfielders in FA? I highly doubt he goes to Detroit. I see him playing at Fenway next year with CC going to Angels.

going off Stark's latest report. he was right about VMart and Dunn. Crawford is going to Boston and Detroit will get Werth

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 11:43 AM
Detroit is also rumored to be making a offer to Crawford. Crawford also was quoted recently saying he's been keeping a eye on Detroit and like what they are doing. Worse case scenario we get Maggs. The key to our season next year is Porcello. Is Boesch returns to form that will surely help also.

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 11:44 AM
I like the Dunn signing for the Sox. he should rake at your guys ballpark

Zander 77
12-03-2010, 11:50 AM
I like the Dunn signing for the Sox. he should rake at your guys ballpark

Agreed, Dunn'll hit 50+ this year. It'll be similar to Jose Bautista, who figured out flipping the ball out to left there in Toronto was the easiest way to 50+ homers.

I've always been a big Dunn fan, but I wanted to see him stay in Washington. He and Zimmerman would have been great for them for the next few years while they make their way up the NL East. Now I really wish he had stayed, I didn't want to see him in the division, even with Detroit.

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 11:55 AM
Detroit was a .500 team, Martinez didn't make them a 90+ win team. We'll see what happens, but Detroit isn't whats worrying me right now. They've got money to spend, which is something to worry about.

Chicago, Detroit, and Minnesota will all be contenders next year. I predict we all are in first at some point of the year (same as last year). hopefully all three teams can stay healthy and bring the World Series home to the Central. The East has some competition next year. We also have a pitcher named Jacob Turner (looks legit, reminds me of Verlander) that could be MLB ready and may compete for the 5th starting job. I can't wait for baseball season.

fadedmario
12-03-2010, 12:05 PM
If the White Sox get Konerko they will be a scary lineup

blams
12-03-2010, 02:43 PM
:nod:

blams
12-03-2010, 02:48 PM
Our idiot fans are going to hate him, it's already started. God, I hate Chicago fans.

Please tell me where Chicago fans are hating him. :puke:

twplanck41
12-03-2010, 02:55 PM
Now the to do's are:
Resign Paulie first and foremost
Trade Quentin for an OF that can field

Paulie in the lineup looks sick

Pierre LF
Beckham 2B
Rios CF
Dunn DH
Konerko 1B
Pierzynski C
Quentin RF(if not traded)
Ramirez SS
Morel 3B

el_primo_nano
12-03-2010, 02:56 PM
like Moss said, Straight Cash Homie!!! Good for him, he is a monster. Maybe we'll actually see either the Tigers or Sox competing for the Central division this year!

Zander 77
12-03-2010, 03:35 PM
like Moss said, Straight Cash Homie!!! Good for him, he is a monster. Maybe we'll actually see either the Tigers or Sox competing for the Central division this year!

Chicago should contend if they manage to bring back Konerko, and the Tigers probably won't compete unless they bring in a decent number three guy. I have less faith in Porcello after last year, and I think if he was the number four on the depth chart instead of three, he'd do better. Have the rotation look like Verlander-Scherzer-number three guy(preferably a lefty)-Porcello-Coke(till it fails horribly and becomes Galarraga.)

The Central will certainly be fun this year, if nothing else.

DaSox_05
12-03-2010, 04:13 PM
Dunn and AJ's contract are backloaded to make room for Paulie per Kenny Williams press conference going on now!

Super.
12-03-2010, 09:54 PM
Please tell me where Chicago fans are hating him. :puke:

do you understand tenses?

ARE GOING - Future

ARE - Present

Pre
12-04-2010, 08:21 AM
Adam Dunn is truly an amazing player... so amazing, in fact, that every team he's on seems doomed to failure. Truly a valuable asset.

cwsnj
12-04-2010, 08:31 AM
Ha, a Cubs fan talking about another teams failure.

thefeckcampaign
12-04-2010, 09:03 AM
1) Pierre (LF)
2) Ramirez (SS)
3) Rios (CF)
4) Dunn (DH/1B)
5) Quentin (RF)
6) Morel/Vizquel (3B)
7) Beckham (2B)
8) Viciedo (1B/DH)
9) Castro/Flowers (C)


That's a good lineup. I think Beckham breaks out next season. I can't stand him, though. ;)

Tigers Lineup (Projected) :

1. CF Austin Jackson
2. 2B Will Ryhmes
3. C Victor Martinez
4. 1B Miguel Cabrera
5. LF Ryan Raburn
6. SS Jhonny Peralta
7. RF Casper Wells
8. DH Brennan Boesch
9. 3B Brandon Inge

Like I said, the White Sox probably have the better lineup as of right now....but we will have to see what else the Tigers, Twins and Sox do this offseason.

Aren't you guys forgetting this little team in MINN that seems to keep winning no matter who they seem to field? ;)

TrippKingz
12-04-2010, 09:30 AM
LF - Pierre
3B - Vizquel
CF - Rios
DH - Dunn
1B - Konerko
RF - Quentin
C - Pierzinski
SS - Ramirez
2B - Beckham

Hmmm.., that looks pretty good to me.

sager729
12-04-2010, 10:48 AM
My lineup would be

1. Pierre LF
2. Beckham 2B
3. Rios CF
4. Konerko 1B
5. Dunn DH
6. Quentin RF
7. Ramirez SS
8. Pierzynski C
9. Morel 3B

WindyCityFlyer
12-04-2010, 01:36 PM
My lineup would be

1. Pierre LF
2. Beckham 2B
3. Rios CF
4. Konerko 1B
5. Dunn DH
6. Quentin RF
7. Ramirez SS
8. Pierzynski C
9. Morel 3B

Mine would be:

Pierre
Beckham
Konerko
Dunn
Rios
Quentin
Pierzynski
Ramirez
Morel

I little bit more L/R balance.

Rdy2PlayBall
12-04-2010, 04:30 PM
Beckham better have his *** sitting between 7th and 9th in the batting order. He's never once been good batting second, he doesn't hit well there. He's not a number 2 hitter, people have to stop putting him there.He has excelled lower in the order.

1.Pierre
2.Ramirez
3.Rios
4.Dunn
5.Konerko
6.Quentin
7.Pierzynski
8.Beckham
9.Morel/Vizquel

Rios or Konerko can be flip-flopped...

Great speed, contact hitter, 5-tool, POWER, power, crazy guy, pesty, great potential for anything, typical 9th hitter.

You know what's great about this though? There are no holes. The only problem is that we don't know what were going to get out of Morel/Vizquel. But they aren't here for offense, they're here for defense. This lineup can be puked out randomly and it would still look good. No Kotsay = MUCH BETTER.

Dunn's left handed bat is going to make Ozzie's crazy schemes happen so much less. Vizquel no longer needs to bat higher in the order, same with AJ. This was a great signing.