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kArSoN RyDaH
12-01-2010, 05:54 AM
All-Time MVP Award Shares Leaders (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mvp_shares_career.html)

Active MVP Award Shares Leaders (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/mvp_shares_active.html)

How accurate would you say MVP Award Shares are when judging the talent a player has had over the length of his career? I'm looking at this list and when determining a players ranking over the course of his career it seems about right.

Award Share= The formula is (award points) / (maximum number of award points). For example, in the 2002-03 MVP voting Tim Duncan had 962 points out of a possible 1190. His MVP award share is 962 / 1190 = 0.81

Although not every player wins an MVP Award throughout his career, one look at Award Shares and you can truly determine how long a player was at the top of his game. For Example- Even though Kobe and Shaq both have only one MVP Award to their resume they both are top 10 in Award Shares because of how long they were at the top in the voting.


Aside from a couple oddities on this list, like Nash, who I don't believe should be that high but it is due to his 2 MVP Awards, I would say it is a pretty good list.


Thoughts?

EDIT: IMO, despite the MVP Award being controversial as of late, and being more political than anything, I would have to say that they always have the top players in the running, and this is a better way to gauge and measure the amount of MVP's a player should have. 1.000 = 1 MVP.

kArSoN RyDaH
12-01-2010, 06:06 AM
Rank Player MVP Shares - ALL TIME
1. Michael Jordan* 8.138
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 6.203
3. Larry Bird* 5.693
4. Magic Johnson* 5.129
5. Bill Russell* 4.827
6. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
7. Karl Malone* 4.296
8. Wilt Chamberlain* 4.269
9. Tim Duncan 4.205
10. Kobe Bryant 3.409
11. David Robinson* 3.123
12. LeBron James 3.070
13. Moses Malone* 2.873
14. Kevin Garnett 2.752
15. Bob Pettit* 2.628
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 2.611
17. Oscar Robertson* 2.479
18. Charles Barkley* 2.438
19. Steve Nash 2.423
20. Jerry West* 2.090
21. Dirk Nowitzki 1.707
22. Elgin Baylor* 1.659
23. Allen Iverson 1.567
24. Bob McAdoo* 1.494
25. Patrick Ewing* 1.424


Rank Player MVP Shares - ACTIVE PLAYERS
1. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
2. Tim Duncan 4.205
3. Kobe Bryant 3.409
4. LeBron James 3.070
5. Kevin Garnett 2.752
6. Steve Nash 2.423
7. Dirk Nowitzki 1.707
8. Jason Kidd 0.933
9. Chris Paul 0.864
10. Tracy McGrady 0.855
11. Dwyane Wade 0.765
12. Dwight Howard 0.707
13. Grant Hill 0.529
14. Kevin Durant 0.495
15. Jermaine O'Neal 0.425
16. Chauncey Billups 0.375
17. Peja Stojakovic 0.229
18. Ben Wallace 0.066
19. Amare Stoudemire 0.059
20. Carmelo Anthony 0.057
21. Vince Carter 0.051
22. Elton Brand 0.041
23. Paul Pierce 0.040
24. Ray Allen 0.038
25. Chris Bosh 0.034

JordansBulls
12-01-2010, 11:28 AM
Rank Player MVP Shares - ALL TIME
1. Michael Jordan* 8.138
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 6.203
3. Larry Bird* 5.693
4. Magic Johnson* 5.129
5. Bill Russell* 4.827
6. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
7. Karl Malone* 4.296
8. Wilt Chamberlain* 4.269
9. Tim Duncan 4.205
10. Kobe Bryant 3.409
11. David Robinson* 3.123
12. LeBron James 3.070
13. Moses Malone* 2.873
14. Kevin Garnett 2.752
15. Bob Pettit* 2.628
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 2.611
17. Oscar Robertson* 2.479
18. Charles Barkley* 2.438
19. Steve Nash 2.423
20. Jerry West* 2.090
21. Dirk Nowitzki 1.707
22. Elgin Baylor* 1.659
23. Allen Iverson 1.567
24. Bob McAdoo* 1.494
25. Patrick Ewing* 1.424


Rank Player MVP Shares - ACTIVE PLAYERS
1. Shaquille O'Neal 4.380
2. Tim Duncan 4.205
3. Kobe Bryant 3.409
4. LeBron James 3.070
5. Kevin Garnett 2.752
6. Steve Nash 2.423
7. Dirk Nowitzki 1.707
8. Jason Kidd 0.933
9. Chris Paul 0.864
10. Tracy McGrady 0.855
11. Dwyane Wade 0.765
12. Dwight Howard 0.707
13. Grant Hill 0.529
14. Kevin Durant 0.495
15. Jermaine O'Neal 0.425
16. Chauncey Billups 0.375
17. Peja Stojakovic 0.229
18. Ben Wallace 0.066
19. Amare Stoudemire 0.059
20. Carmelo Anthony 0.057
21. Vince Carter 0.051
22. Elton Brand 0.041
23. Paul Pierce 0.040
24. Ray Allen 0.038
25. Chris Bosh 0.034

Yes it is a good measure because although you aren't going to win MVP yearly, you should be near the top yearly as an elite player. For instance Shaq only has 1 MVP, but has over 4 MVP shares which means he deserved more MVP's than he actually got.

Chronz
12-01-2010, 12:48 PM
Its a great method I wish folks would focus on more, sure there are a couple of misnomers like Karl Malone ahead of Duncan but its a great tool

kArSoN RyDaH
12-01-2010, 02:31 PM
Its a great method I wish folks would focus on more, sure there are a couple of misnomers like Karl Malone ahead of Duncan but its a great tool

Which was probably due to the longevity in their careers. Malone played a longer career which is why he accumulated more Award Shares. But for the most part I find it a very accurate tool for measuring a players career greatness.