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DitchDat
11-24-2010, 07:55 AM
What is the best 15-man roster that can be compiled with players stemming only from the Northwestern Division?
Rules:
- only pick from Denver, Minnesota, Oklahoma City, Portland and Utah
- only use up to 6 starters
- use (at least) 9 bench players
- 2 of the 15 players have to be rookies

What is the best team the Northwestern Division could put forth?

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Available starters (R = rookies):
Chauncey Billups, Carmelo Anthony, Nene, Shelden Williams, Arron Afflalo, Kevin Love, Michael Beasley, Luke Ridnour, Darko Milicic, Wayne Ellington, Russell Westbrook, Thabo Sefalosha, Jeff Green, Kevin Durant, Nenad Krstic, Andre Miller, Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marcus Camby, Nicolas Batum, Deron Williams, Raja Bell, Andrei Kirilenko, Paul Millsap, Al Jefferson

Available bench players (R = rookies):
Chris Andersen, Renaldo Balkman, Anthony Carter, Melvin Ely, Gary Forbes (R), Al Harrington, Ty Lawson, Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, Corey Brewer, Jonny Flynn, Sundiata Gaines, Lazar Hayward (R), Wesley Johnson (R), Kosta Koufos, Nikola Pekovic (R), Sebastian Telfair, Anthony Tolliver, Martell Webster, Cole Adrich (R), Nick Collison, Daequan Cook, James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Royal Ivey, Eric Maynor, Byron Mullens, Morris Peterson, DJ White, Luke Babbit (R), Dante Cunningham, Rudy Fernandez, Armon Johnson (R), Sean Marks, Wesley Matthews, Patrick Mills, Greg Oden, Joel Pryzbilla, Elliot Williams (R), Francisco Elson, Jeremy Evans (R), Kyrylo Fesenko, Gordon Hayward (R), CJ Miles, Mehmet Okur, Ronnie Price, Earl Watson

ShakeN'Bake
11-24-2010, 08:59 AM
I'm going to assume Roy comes back healthy which would make Matthews a bench player

C Al Jefferson/Serge Ibaka/Cole Aldrich
PF Kevin Love/LaMarcus Aldridge/ Al Harrington
SF Kevin Durant/Martell Webster/Gordon Hayward
SG Brandon Roy/Wesley Matthews/Gary Forbes
PG Deron Williams/Ty Lawson/Eric Maynor

I went with Aldridge over Melo since I already have Durant and my front court would have been thin otherwise.

kingbrentg
11-24-2010, 09:00 AM
PG: Deron Williams (s) - Ty Lawson (b) - Eric Maynor (b)
SG: Brandon Roy (s) - JR Smith (b) - CJ Miles (b)
SF: Kevin Durant (s) - Carmelo Anthony (s) - Gary Forbes (r)
PF: Paul Millsap (s) - Al Harrington (b) - Anthony Tolliver (b)
C: Kevin Love (s) - Serge Ibaka (b) - Cole Aldrich (r)

kingbrentg
11-24-2010, 09:02 AM
I'm going to assume Roy comes back healthy which would make Matthews a bench player

6 Starters: Deron Williams, Brandon Roy, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Al Jefferson, LaMarcus Aldridge.

Bench: Serge Ibaka, Ty Lawson, Martell Webster, Marcus Camby, Wesley Matthews, Eric Maynor, Nicolas Batum, Gary Forbes (R), Gordon Hayward (R)

C Al Jefferson/Marcus Camby/Serge Ibaka
PF Kevin Love/LaMarcus Aldridge
SF Kevin Durant/Nicolas Batum/Martell Webster/Gordon Hayward
SG Brandon Roy/Wesley Matthews/Gary Forbes
PG Deron Williams/Ty Lawson/Eric Maynor

I went with Aldridge over Melo since I already have Durant and my front court would have been thin otherwise.

That's 3 from the Jazz, 3 from OKC, 5 from Blazers, 2 from Wolves, 2 from Denver.

Batum and Camby are starters?

ShakeN'Bake
11-24-2010, 09:07 AM
Batum and Camby are starters?

Woops my bad. Thanks for pointing that out.

edited it

aussie
11-24-2010, 09:15 AM
PG: Deron Williams
SG: Kevin Durant
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Kevin Love
C: Al Jefferson

Bench:
6th: Brandon Roy
PG: Chauncey Billups
SF: Michael Beasley
PF: Paul Millsap
C: Marcus Camby
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
PG: Russel Westbrook
C: Nene
SG: JR Smith
SF: Nicholas Batum

3 Jazz
4 Nuggets
2 Timberwolves
4 Trail Blazers
2 Thunder

WolvesJagsOs
11-24-2010, 03:52 PM
PG: Deron Williams
SG: Kevin Durant
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Kevin Love
C: Al Jefferson

Bench:
PG: Chauncey Billups
SG: Brandon Roy
SF: Michael Beasley
PF: Paul Millsap
C: Marcus Camby
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
PG: Russel Westbrook
C: Nene
SG: JR Smith
SF: Nicholas Batum

3 Jazz
4 Nuggets
2 Timberwolves
4 Trail Blazers
2 Thunder

I agree with this.

goblazers7
11-24-2010, 04:22 PM
Pg:Westbrook/Lawson
sg:Roy/Matthews
sf:Durant/Cj Miles/Babbitt
pf:Aldridge/Harrington/
c:Nene/Pryzbilla/Aldrich

Why: Westbrook would give us an uptempo offense. Our big men are running big man. Man, I could see 1000 oops thrown from westbrook to nene and aldridge alllllll game. If need be we could slow down and run through durant and Roy in a halfcourt set. I would also love to see a Westbrook/Aldridge pick and roll.

Our bench is pretty beast. I can see Lawson attacking the rim while he kicks it out to an open harrington/Cj Miles. I chose Pryzbilla because of his rebounding ability and interior defensive pressence.
Sorry if I typo'd I'm on my iPhone.

Hawkeye15
11-24-2010, 04:25 PM
Pg:Westbrook/Lawson
sg:Roy/Matthews
sf:Durant/Cj Miles/Babbitt
pf:Aldridge/Harrington/
c:Nene/Pryzbilla/Aldrich

Why: Westbrook would give us an uptempo offense. Our big men are running big man. Man, I could see 1000 oops thrown from westbrook to nene and aldridge alllllll game. If need be we could slow down and run through durant and Roy in a halfcourt set. I would also love to see a Westbrook/Aldridge pick and roll.

Our bench is pretty beast. I can see Lawson attacking the rim while he kicks it out to an open harrington/Cj Miles. I chose Pryzbilla because of his rebounding ability and interior defensive pressence.
Sorry if I typo'd I'm on my iPhone.

did you really put Harrington over Love, and CJ Miles and Babbit over Beasley and Melo?

goblazers7
11-24-2010, 04:42 PM
^^^ love is a starter and you can only have 6. Same with beasley. I tried to make my team good without using ALL of the good players

Hawkeye15
11-24-2010, 04:46 PM
^^^ love is a starter and you can only have 6. Same with beasley. I tried to make my team good without using ALL of the good players

then you need Love over Aldridge. If you wanna run, you need to board. And Love is flat out better

WolvesJagsOs
11-24-2010, 04:46 PM
^lol, still tho, u would pick Aldridge over Klove?

Hawkeye15
11-24-2010, 04:56 PM
^lol, still tho, u would pick Aldridge over Klove?

he is a Blazers fan dude. And he has every right to, Lamarcus has started for a few years now on a good team.
But Love is a better player now.

WolvesJagsOs
11-24-2010, 05:08 PM
^i understand, but Klove can shoot the 3, good rebounder, and a solid scorer. I like LMA alot, thats not the reason, i just think klove should def be the starter...

goblazers7
11-24-2010, 05:42 PM
^^^^^ Aldridge is a better player. love gets out of mind stats on a terrible team. Aren't you a wolves fan?

Hawkeye15
11-24-2010, 05:44 PM
^^^^^ Aldridge is a better player. love gets out of mind stats on a terrible team. Aren't you a wolves fan?

how is Aldridge a better player? And the argument of stats are easier to get on a bad team is a myth. Its actually harder to be efficient on a bad team.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=aldrila01&y1=2011&p2=loveke01&y2=2011

Aldridge is a better shotblocker, and nothing else. There is a reason why Love is now being talked about as a future star.

b_russ
11-24-2010, 05:49 PM
Starters:
D. Williams (S)
J. Harden (B)
K. Durant (S)
K. Love (S)
M. Camby (S)

Bench:
R. Westbrook (S)
B. Roy/W. Matthews (B)
C. Anthony (S)
S. Ibaka/ J. Green (B)
M. Okur (B)
G. Forbes (R)
C. Aldrich (R)

WolvesJagsOs
11-24-2010, 06:40 PM
^^^^^ Aldridge is a better player. love gets out of mind stats on a terrible team. Aren't you a wolves fan?

lol....are you serious right now dude? like honsetly.

DitchDat
11-28-2010, 08:45 AM
Mine:

PG Deron Williams / Jonny Flynn / Anthony Carter
SF Carmelo Anthony / Al Harrington / Wesley Johnson (R)
C Marcus Camby / Joel Pryzbilla / Nikola Pekovic (R)
SG Kevin Durant / Brandon Roy / Wesley Matthews
PF Al Jefferson / Chris Andersen / Serge Ibaka

alencp3
11-28-2010, 09:47 AM
No room for Westbrook?

Hawkeye15
11-28-2010, 11:34 AM
Mine:

PG Deron Williams / Jonny Flynn / Anthony Carter
SF Carmelo Anthony / Al Harrington / Wesley Johnson (R)
C Marcus Camby / Joel Pryzbilla / Nikola Pekovic (R)
SG Kevin Durant / Brandon Roy / Wesley Matthews
PF Al Jefferson / Chris Andersen / Serge Ibaka

Love has been playing a lot better than Al this season

Hawkeye15
11-28-2010, 11:35 AM
No room for Westbrook?

I would honestly have him over Deron for this season's play only. But Westbrook needs to keep his level of play up over the whole season in order for many to start giving him a nod over Deron, who has been killing it for 4 years.

DitchDat
11-28-2010, 01:06 PM
Love has been playing a lot better than Al this season

I understand that he eats up the rebounds, but his percentages are not good at all. I'm a Love fan, but right now I'll take Al Jeff over him.

DitchDat
11-28-2010, 01:07 PM
Love has been playing a lot better than Al this season

Westbrook is a baller, but I think Deron is more consistent. Also, Deron's shooting percentages are way better (Westbrook doesn't have 3-pt range). If Deron was much older than Westbrook, I'd take Westbrook in a heartbeat, but Deron is still a young guy himself ...

Hawkeye15
11-28-2010, 01:09 PM
I understand that he eats up the rebounds, but his percentages are not good at all. I'm a Love fan, but right now I'll take Al Jeff over him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=jeffeal01&y1=2011&p2=loveke01&y2=2011

Love is playing far better this season. When you get to the line at a high rate, and hit 89%, it negates the lower eFG%, and makes Love a more efficient scorer. Add the fact in that Love absolutely crushes Big Al in the rebounding department, and you have a better PF in Love this year

Hawkeye15
11-28-2010, 01:10 PM
Westbrook is a baller, but I think Deron is more consistent. Also, Deron's shooting percentages are way better (Westbrook doesn't have 3-pt range). If Deron was much older than Westbrook, I'd take Westbrook in a heartbeat, but Deron is still a young guy himself ...

I was simply answering the poster's question, but I would also take Deron. He has proven over time that he is awesome. And its not like Westbrook is outplaying him by a lot this season haha.

Baller1
11-28-2010, 02:52 PM
At this point in time, one would be stupid to take Westbrook over Deron. Hopefully that will change soon though.

jimbobjarree
11-28-2010, 03:10 PM
Deron Williams / Russell Westbrook / Ty Lawson
Kevin Durant / Russell Westbrook / James Harden
Carmelo Anthony / CJ Miles / Corey Brewer / Gordon Hayward (r)
Kevin Love / Serge Ibaka / Al Harrington
Al Jefferson / Mehmet Okur / Cole Aldrich (r)

6 starters
9 bench players
2 rookies

was gunna pick wesley johnson as a rookie, but isnt he also a starter?

I'd love to see Deron, Westbrook, Durant, Melo and Ibaka on the floor together.

Hawkeye15
11-28-2010, 03:11 PM
Deron Williams / Russell Westbrook / Ty Lawson
Kevin Durant / Russell Westbrook / James Harden
Carmelo Anthony / CJ Miles / Corey Brewer / Gordon Hayward (r)
Kevin Love / Serge Ibaka / Al Harrington
Al Jefferson / Mehmet Okur / Cole Aldrich (r)

6 starters
9 bench players
2 rookies

was gunna pick wesley johnson as a rookie, but isnt he also a starter?

he has been a couple weeks now, at least.

DitchDat
11-28-2010, 03:24 PM
Deron Williams / Russell Westbrook / Ty Lawson
Kevin Durant / Russell Westbrook / James Harden
Carmelo Anthony / CJ Miles / Corey Brewer / Gordon Hayward (r)
Kevin Love / Serge Ibaka / Al Harrington
Al Jefferson / Mehmet Okur / Cole Aldrich (r)

6 starters
9 bench players
2 rookies

was gunna pick wesley johnson as a rookie, but isnt he also a starter?

I'd love to see Deron, Westbrook, Durant, Melo and Ibaka on the floor together.

you just have to have 2 rookies on your roster, doesn't matter if they're starters or reserves

jimbobjarree
11-28-2010, 03:51 PM
lol i just realized I have no Blazers on my team

BkOriginalOne
11-28-2010, 06:24 PM
Deron
KD
Melo
Love (would outrebound Howard if he played on Magic)
Al Jeff

Westbrook
Roy
Beasley
Aldridge
Nene

Billups
JR Smith
Jeff Green
Milsap
Darko! That's right, Darko!

Jumba
11-28-2010, 09:33 PM
STARTERS:
PG: Williams
SG: Westbrook
SF: Durant
PF: Love
C: Jefferson

6th Man:
Millsap

Bench:
Matthews
Price
Ibaka
Johnson (R)
Tolliver
Hayward (R)
Maynor
Evans (R)
Brewer

Baller1
11-28-2010, 09:47 PM
I can't believe most of you are leaving Camby off of your teams.

DitchDat
11-29-2010, 04:00 AM
I can't believe most of you are leaving Camby off of your teams.

I have him on my team, only true center in the division