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asandhu23
11-22-2010, 06:55 PM
After a long wait in free agency, Erick Dampier is closing in on getting what he wanted all along -- a contract from the Miami Heat.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com on Monday that Dampier, who spent the past six seasons in Dallas Mavericks, has emerged as the Heat's top choice to replace Udonis Haslem in the wake of Haslem's foot injury and could join Miami as soon as this week.

The Heat would have to release a player from its full 15-man roster to make room to sign Dampier to a one-year deal believed to be worth the league's $1.4 million veteran minimum.

One source briefed on the situation told ESPN.com that the main holdup before Dampier can be signed is deciding which player to release to make roster room for Dampier.

Haslem went down with a torn ligament in his left foot Saturday in Memphis that will sideline him for at least six weeks and likely much longer, with one source close to the situation saying Sunday that Haslem is potentially out until at least the All-Star break in February. One NBA medical expert told ESPN.com on Monday that such injuries are generally "slow healing" and the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel reported on its website Monday afternoon that Haslem will indeed undergo surgery Tuesday.

Heat president Pat Riley, in response, acknowledged at a charity event Sunday night that he would likely have to make a signing to address the loss of Haslem, saying: "We need more rebounding, and we need obviously somebody that is going to have a big body in the paint that can make a difference and have an impact. We will consider something like that."

After the Mavericks traded him to Charlotte during the summer and since his release by the Charlotte Bobcats in September, Dampier has been courted by several teams and nearly signed with the Houston Rockets earlier this month before the Rockets unexpectedly backed away from a verbally agreed upon one-year deal worth $2 million.

Yet sources close to the process maintain that Dampier has been holding off on a decision -- after flirtations with teams such as Toronto, Phoenix, Portland and Milwaukee -- largely because the 35-year-old was determined to land with his No. 1 choice in Miami or another title contender.

The Heat initially passed on Dampier after auditioning him in training camp, deciding that they had the center position covered with the trio of Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Joel Anthony and Jamaal Magloire. But Dampier and agent Dan Fegan, according to one interested team, have privately believed that Miami and perhaps other top teams would emerge with renewed interest after the season started and fresh needs developed.

The strategy appears to have worked, since Miami is not alone in its pursuit of Dampier. The Los Angeles Lakers have also tried to sign Dampier in recent days given the ongoing absence of Andrew Bynum, but the two-time defending champions only have a short-term need with Bynum expected to be activated next month. Miami has an urgent need even with a healthy Haslem, given the Heat's struggles through their first 13 games to cope with various power players such as New Orleans' Emeka Okafor and Utah's Paul Millsap.

In 14 seasons with Indiana, Golden State and Dallas, Dampier has averages of 7.8 points and 7.4 rebounds. He underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee after last season but has been targeted to supply rebounding, shot-blocking and the physical presence that power forward Chris Bosh lacks.

ESPN.com reported Sunday that, even before losing Haslem, Miami had been reconsidering its October decision to pass on signing Dampier. A source with knowledge of the talks said that the Heat have maintained a level of contact with Dampier since the collapse of the Houston talks.

Haslem is the Heat's leading rebounder and at 8.2 per game, leading all NBA reserves in the category. He also had been developing a chemistry with LeBron James on pick-and-roll plays on the offensive end, averaging 11.3 points on 63 percent shooting in his last four games before getting hurt.

The Heat will not be eligible to apply to the league for an injury exception worth half of Haslem's $3.5 million salary to sign a replacement unless he is ruled out for the remainder of the season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5839820&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_5839820

D Roses Bulls
11-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Big Z, Dampier, Joel Anthony...... talk about the slowest front court in the NBA, but they need the extra body.

tangent12
11-22-2010, 06:57 PM
They'll still be very weak down low. But I mean, it's better than nothing.

kblo247
11-22-2010, 06:59 PM
Interestingly enough the LA Times posted an article about Phil declaring they would sign a big this week. Dampier's name was mentioned in that.

abe_froman
11-22-2010, 07:01 PM
they're going to need him

SouljahPhil...
11-22-2010, 07:03 PM
Good for them..Pls waive pittman...Well take him...

kblo247
11-22-2010, 07:13 PM
Magloire and Stackhouse should both be waived imo, but oh well.

I do notice that an interesting trend remained constant though. Every team Juwan Howard has ever signed on to has been struck hard with the injury bug. The guy must be cursed or either know a good voodoo doctor.

kgjfan243
11-22-2010, 07:16 PM
good pickup

SouljahPhil...
11-22-2010, 07:21 PM
I know man...was just hoping it would be pittman..lol

any updates on who we will sign KBLO?

markbutter
11-22-2010, 07:32 PM
I can sorta see why with the injury and what not. But, it's not like Damp's been playing alot the last month. The Rockets were ready to give him 2M for the year and pulled back (or he did, depending on the face saving move you believe).

Assuming Big Z and Haslam were in the middle and both have been than average outside shots for big men. Where does that leave Damp? Will make the middle even more clogged. Sure he helps on D, but if Haslam comes back this season, is Damp riding pine and collecting a ring? He could do that with the Lakers. And have a better chance at it.

footballer2369
11-22-2010, 07:34 PM
Big Z, Dampier, Joel Anthony...... talk about the slowest front court in the NBA, but they need the extra body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uGSudKB0&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=far51pHW0qE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSYq97W85g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUXCRdoLiY&feature=related

really slow huh?

jp611
11-22-2010, 07:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uGSudKB0&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=far51pHW0qE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSYq97W85g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUXCRdoLiY&feature=related

really slow huh?

joel anthony is the worst player in the nba still

redsox0717
11-22-2010, 07:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uGSudKB0&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=far51pHW0qE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSYq97W85g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUXCRdoLiY&feature=related

really slow huh?

No offense but none of those show actual speed, just him being tall. He didn't say Anthony couldn't block shots, he said he was slow.

And Dampier won't help much at all, but he's a pretty good rebounder and they need someone to grab boards with Haslem out.

tcav701
11-22-2010, 07:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uGSudKB0&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=far51pHW0qE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSYq97W85g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUXCRdoLiY&feature=related

really slow huh?


This is what you should have posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2akdYIFJ2A

YUP

jp611
11-22-2010, 07:45 PM
This is what you should have posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2akdYIFJ2A

YUP

:laugh: the guy couldnt pull down a rebound if his life depended on it either

aussie
11-22-2010, 07:46 PM
this should be in the heat forum!

D Roses Bulls
11-22-2010, 07:49 PM
This is what you should have posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2akdYIFJ2A

YUP

:clap: thats hilarious

D1JM
11-22-2010, 07:49 PM
This is what you should have posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2akdYIFJ2A

YUP

Fail! Lol poor guy just sucks. I bet scal feels like Duncan next to anthony

D Roses Bulls
11-22-2010, 07:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uGSudKB0&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=far51pHW0qE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSYq97W85g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUXCRdoLiY&feature=related

really slow huh?

what does blocking shots have to do with his speed?

Storch
11-22-2010, 07:58 PM
Dampier would be a good signing for the Heat. Everyone is hating on the Heat right now because they can't afford any players, or players are just off the market. I hope you all keep in mind that they can sign new vets and one player with the MLE next summer. this is their first year, and they're only going to get better n better as each summer passes with new players. Even if they SUCKED this year, I highly doubt they regress as each year passes...

tcav701
11-22-2010, 08:02 PM
Dampier would be a good signing for the Heat. Everyone is hating on the Heat right now because they can't afford any players, or players are just off the market. I hope you all keep in mind that they can sign new vets and one player with the MLE next summer. this is their first year, and they're only going to get better n better as each summer passes with new players. Even if they SUCKED this year, I highly doubt they regress as each year passes...

And you have to keep in mind that there will be a new CBA next year with the main focus being cutting back on player salaries.

This could very well put the MLE on the chopping block or at least lower the salary of the MLE making it less attractive to players.

Looking to build a team on the MLE and vet mins is never a good way to go untill you have your starting 5 built epsecially when it could be in jeopordy.

haggis
11-22-2010, 08:04 PM
And you have to keep in mind that there will be a new CBA next year with the main focus being cutting back on player salaries.

This could very well put the MLE on the chopping block or at least lower the salary of the MLE making it less attractive to players.

Looking to build a team on the MLE and vet mins is never a good way to go untill you have your starting 5 built epsecially when it could be in jeopordy.

^this x10000

The MLE is being said to be the first thing gone in the new CBA.

...and there is such thing as "quality depth" rather than just "depth" (ie. filling out your roster to meet minimum requirements)

-Kobe24-TJ19-
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
This is what you should have posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2akdYIFJ2A

YUP

Here's another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9h6IWQBdQQ

Storch
11-22-2010, 08:08 PM
And you have to keep in mind that there will be a new CBA next year with the main focus being cutting back on player salaries.

This could very well put the MLE on the chopping block or at least lower the salary of the MLE making it less attractive to players.

Looking to build a team on the MLE and vet mins is never a good way to go untill you have your starting 5 built epsecially when it could be in jeopordy.

Good job on the stating the obvious genius. Nothing you've said in that post negated my previous statement. Teams are built slowly, piece by piece most of the time, and the Heat won't be any different even with their signing of three superstars all at once. There's no denying that they will improve each summer with new signings.

Haters can keep hating (like you). Always talking down on the HEat. I hate the heat as much as the next guy, but you can't deny that they WILL build around the big three and you can't stop that no matter how you word it.

tcav701
11-22-2010, 08:11 PM
Good job on the stating the obvious genius. Nothing you've said in that post negated my previous statement. Teams are built slowly, piece by piece most of the time, and the Heat won't be any different even with their signing of three superstars all at once. There's no denying that they will improve each summer with new signings.

Haters can keep hating (like you). Always talking down on the HEat. I hate the heat as much as the next guy, but you can't deny that they WILL build around the big three and you can't stop that no matter how you word it.

You obviously have no comprehension skills so I'll make this easy for you.

NO CAP SPACE + NO MLE= NO IMPROVEMENT

bringinwood
11-22-2010, 08:25 PM
^this x10000

The MLE is being said to be the first thing gone in the new CBA.

...and there is such thing as "quality depth" rather than just "depth" (ie. filling out your roster to meet minimum requirements)

Gotta think that the hard cap will be gone if they get rid of the MLE...

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep the soft and hard caps without having an exception for going over the soft cap...

The players union will, probably, allow one to happen with the other... I can't see them agreeing to just the MLE going... It makes it easier for owners and gm's to say, well you aren't getting a multi-year deal, so we'll offer you the vet min and you can earn a multi-year deal with us...

tcav701
11-22-2010, 08:30 PM
Gotta think that the hard cap will be gone if they get rid of the MLE...

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to keep the soft and hard caps without having an exception for going over the soft cap...

The players union will, probably, allow one to happen with the other... I can't see them agreeing to just the MLE going... It makes it easier for owners and gm's to say, well you aren't getting a multi-year deal, so we'll offer you the vet min and you can earn a multi-year deal with us...

Everything I am hearing is the MLE will be gone.

There will be a soft/hard cap which you can go over to retain your players who's contract ends and sign draft picks. There is also a good chance a franchse tag will be implemented which will also allow you to go over the soft cap.

Trouble87
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
Dampier has been nothing since he left Golden State

what is Sean Williams doing? He has talent and he's still young, Miami should take a chance on him

BALLER71
11-22-2010, 09:05 PM
Big Z, Dampier, Joel Anthony...... talk about the slowest front court in the NBA, but they need the extra body.

Have you seen Joel Anthony run the court? He's not slow.

shep33
11-22-2010, 09:30 PM
If he signed with the Lakers he'd just be a temporary until Bynum and Ratliff come back... other than that he won't play at all for the Lakers. So yeah makes more sense to join the Heat.

J_M_B
11-22-2010, 09:38 PM
How is Joel slow?

He runs the floor just as good as any other athletic center.. He isn't skilled on the offensive end, but he is a defensive presence. Everybody knows he's a great shot blocker, but he does a lot of little things that don't show up on the stat sheet. Joel is a good help defender, good foot work, sets screens, alter shots, boxing out, and can hold his ground against bigger players.

Don't get me wrong, he's atrocious offensively, but every team needs someone that can do the little things. Joel Anthony can do those things, but he is underperforming early in the season.

shep33
11-22-2010, 09:43 PM
Good temporary pickup for Miami... the guy is 35 though, and I wonder how in shape he is. Teams haven't signed him for a reason... i mean typically every big in the league is getting paid good money, so why hasn't Damp signed yet?

MrfadeawayJB
11-22-2010, 09:45 PM
Joel has an alien head

Storch
11-22-2010, 09:47 PM
Everything I am hearing is the MLE will be gone.

There will be a soft/hard cap which you can go over to retain your players who's contract ends and sign draft picks. There is also a good chance a franchse tag will be implemented which will also allow you to go over the soft cap.

Okay Stern, since you know the future of the NBA. Would you like to explain how teams would keep the minimum amount of players if there is no way to sign even the minimum salary for players? You're telling me that veterans can't go ring chasing to the Heat next summer? Shame on you.

The Celtics signed Shaq this year to the minimum. He's a solid veteran. Need I say more? Don't insult me with things that you think are hard facts, when you are clearly just assuming that there is NO WAY the heat can sign ANYONE in the next summer. Your premise is flawed in more ways than one.

If you'd like to back up your facts and claims, sig bet with me. I guarantee that the Heat will sign at least 2 new veterans that will play a better role than magloire and stackhouse next year.

D Roses Bulls
11-22-2010, 09:49 PM
Have you seen Joel Anthony run the court? He's not slow.

well when I made my original statement I was talking about the combination of Z,Dampier, and Anthony is the slowest in the NBA, but I have seen heat games this year, Anthony isnt the slowest, but he isnt exactly fast either.

Storch
11-22-2010, 09:50 PM
And who are the these signings will be? You do realize that as time goes by, season per season, summer per summer, vets will age also. By that time frame you expect, i think you forgot to consider age. And yes, you might aswell give a goodbye kiss to MLE and less cap. Heat's signings will be around vets, rookies (less talented or bust), or bench warmers. No offense, but if you still don't get it, i can speak in Tagalog if you want, assuming you're filipino by your sig.

Do you think that by saying no offense you're not committing an offense? I hope you get banned you racist fool.

You ignorant posters that believe that the Heat won't improve as the years go by are ignorant. That's all I have to say.

Hunter48MVP
11-22-2010, 10:01 PM
Thank God he didn't sign with the Lakers. I don't want him in the Lakers.

tcav701
11-22-2010, 10:17 PM
Okay Stern, since you know the future of the NBA. Would you like to explain how teams would keep the minimum amount of players if there is no way to sign even the minimum salary for players? You're telling me that veterans can't go ring chasing to the Heat next summer? Shame on you.

The Celtics signed Shaq this year to the minimum. He's a solid veteran. Need I say more? Don't insult me with things that you think are hard facts, when you are clearly just assuming that there is NO WAY the heat can sign ANYONE in the next summer. Your premise is flawed in more ways than one.

If you'd like to back up your facts and claims, sig bet with me. I guarantee that the Heat will sign at least 2 new veterans that will play a better role than magloire and stackhouse next year.

Its not difficult to get players better than MAgloire and Stackhouse. This thread is about them doing so in Dampier.

If you remember, we were talking about the likely end of the MLE. So you're right they can improve slightly by signing players better than Jerry Stackhouse. I was talking aout significant improvement.

BTW, you calling people ignorant among other names looks pretty foolish when you are the one handing out insults

Why are you so angry?

kgjfan243
11-22-2010, 11:53 PM
Damp still got some game. def more than joel anthony.

Storch
11-23-2010, 12:03 AM
Its not difficult to get players better than MAgloire and Stackhouse. This thread is about them doing so in Dampier.

If you remember, we were talking about the likely end of the MLE. So you're right they can improve slightly by signing players better than Jerry Stackhouse. I was talking aout significant improvement.

BTW, you calling people ignorant among other names looks pretty foolish when you are the one handing out insults

Why are you so angry?

Someone just told me that they'd explain their argument to me in my native language. And you told me that you'd break it down to me so that my intellect can comprehend what you're saying.

And back to the topic, with your response above you have agreed to my premise that the Heat WILL get better somehow and that's all that im arguing here. The heat only need role players to fill out their holes and they can do that slowly but surely as time progresses. end of argument.

king4day
11-23-2010, 12:10 AM
I know man...was just hoping it would be pittman..lol

any updates on who we will sign KBLO?

You guys should sign Coutney Sims out of the Dleague

Raph12
11-23-2010, 12:54 AM
the heat have had multiple chances at getting dampier as have like 10 teams. there are reasons why he has been rumored to be signing with miami, rockets, bucks, and suns off the top of my head and none have signed him.


he is definitely 100% not going to miami. book it.

Well well well, look what we have here... ;)

The Jokemaker
11-23-2010, 01:42 AM
All hail King Dampier! The key piece to the legacy. After this doesn't drastically improve the team it'll be Spoelstra's fault until they bring in Riley.

tangent12
11-23-2010, 01:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uGSudKB0&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=far51pHW0qE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSYq97W85g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUXCRdoLiY&feature=related

really slow huh?

LOL, what a fail response. :laugh2: