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DQL
11-12-2010, 11:29 PM
Dude just put up the first 30-30 game since 1982, first 30-board game since 1996

I wonder why his coach doesn't play him more. He's a beast

black1605
11-12-2010, 11:29 PM
We all knew Kevin Love is a beast on the boards, but 31 rebounds is ridiculous.

Who was the last player to put up 30 points and 30 rebounds in the same game?

Hawkeye15
11-12-2010, 11:30 PM
Love just finished with 31-31-5. The last time there was a 30-30 game, it was 1982, and Moses Malone pulled it off.

Its time to start giving this man credit.

dnewguy
11-12-2010, 11:32 PM
Beasley added 35 points to it, after scoring 42 last game. Looks like the Heat coach is the reason Beasley looked horrible in last 2 years.

heyman321
11-12-2010, 11:32 PM
Holy crap.

B.JenningsMVP
11-12-2010, 11:33 PM
My pick for MIP.
Amazing game, and looks as if Beasley's coming along.
Actually like the young T'Wolves squad with Wesley Johnson.

GOON MUSIC
11-12-2010, 11:33 PM
Moses Malone

black1605
11-12-2010, 11:33 PM
Yeah Beasley was a beast.

Also, my question was answered in another thread. Moses Malone was the last player to go for 30 and 30.

Mauersota
11-12-2010, 11:34 PM
Gotta love having three threads about this.

knicksfan42
11-12-2010, 11:34 PM
Love just finished with 31-31-5. The last time there was a 30-30 game, it was 1982, and Moses Malone pulled it off.

Its time to start giving this man credit.

Or taking credit away from Amare, he's god awful, anyways great game for you guys especially Love of course. Hawkeye do you think we could even trade Amare if we wanted to? I mean he's a PF who can't play with his back to the basket, can't pass, can't handle the ball (wouldn't be much of a problem if he didn't try to), can't play defense, doesn't rebound well, and has a low bball IQ.

Tony_Starks
11-12-2010, 11:35 PM
Damn you beat me to the punch Hawk, I was just about to give your boy his props! Hey I can't front man I watched the majority of that game and I've never seen anything like it. Team dead in the water, looks like its over at halftime. Then in the 3rd qtr Love was a man possessed. Snagging every board in sight. Hitting the jumper. THEN BEasley starts fooling around. All the way around, knocking J's left and right.

Amare was frustrated and bewildered. Man oh Man, what a game! As a Wolves fan I know you're feeling good right about now my good fellow!

GoatMilk
11-12-2010, 11:35 PM
Moses' was in 1982

that means guys like Hakeem, Shaq, KG, Duncan, Patrick, Robinson, hell, Dwight

impressive. very impressive
and of course it was against the Knicks

bahama0811
11-12-2010, 11:35 PM
That is crazy. He's a hell of a player.

hotpotato1092
11-12-2010, 11:35 PM
Some team needs to steal him from Minnesota, he needs to be on a good team, or at least one with hope.

knicksfan42
11-12-2010, 11:36 PM
[QUOTE=Tony_Starks;15543796]

Amare was frustrated and bewildered. /QUOTE]

Amare was previously frustrated and bewildered by everyone he's guarded every game we've played, his defensive assignment was always either the player of the game or the runner up.

black1605
11-12-2010, 11:37 PM
I hope this game gets replayed on NBATV some time, I'd love to watch it.

IAmKira
11-12-2010, 11:37 PM
news of the day. On 3 of my Fantasy teams.. Would've been 4 but i traded him for noah =[

Korman12
11-12-2010, 11:37 PM
Wow, that's incredible.

GoatMilk
11-12-2010, 11:37 PM
why hasnt he been playing more?
rookie year Mchale had him off the bench
Rambis was an ahole last year, and a little bit this year too

what the hell man
all this dude does is rebound. very solid offensive player too.
i dont get it

GOON MUSIC
11-12-2010, 11:38 PM
it was good, then it was bad

reason the twolves won, knicks just kept chuckin n brickin 3's in the second half

xabial
11-12-2010, 11:38 PM
Moses' was in 1982

that means guys like Hakeem, Shaq, KG, Duncan, Patrick, Robinson, hell, Dwight

impressive. very impressive
and of course it was against the Knicks

Saw the Whole Game. We were up by 20-30 , and Mike Makes us Chuck 28 3's. Worst game of my Life. The Worst Part is He played Amar'e At Center...

IAmKira
11-12-2010, 11:38 PM
Freaking Rambis can't coach for sh@%. Dude play him for 30+ 1st time in 9 freakin games wtf?

LionsFan..LOL
11-12-2010, 11:39 PM
Holy **** :speechless: ....... K. Love is a beast :worthy:

black1605
11-12-2010, 11:39 PM
Best rebounder in the NBA?

Sadds The Gr8
11-12-2010, 11:40 PM
holy **** :speechless:

he's gonna start gettin some recognition. this is definitely a breakout game. Beasley also quietly put up 35 too.

Slimsim
11-12-2010, 11:41 PM
I hate Mike D knicks up 20 in the 3rd and we chucking three pointers.

daleja424
11-12-2010, 11:41 PM
:speechless:

GoatMilk
11-12-2010, 11:41 PM
Best rebounder in the NBA?

up there

i love Love because he doesnt rely on athleticism like dwight and noah for instance.
he just positions himself wonderfully

Twolves
11-12-2010, 11:42 PM
I was just on ESPN's daily dime and there were people saying the Heat NEED to trade Bosh for Kevin Love. haha Right now I would not take that. I don't even know what I'd want to trade Love for; we have got to hang on to him.

But I gotta really thank Miami for handing us Michael Beasely. 38 pts per game the past two performances. I'd love to see him arise to the potential he was supposed to have.

Minnesota has looked great over the past 3 games. Almost shocked the Lakers, beat out Sac-Town, and had an amazing 17 point comeback tonight. Finally the Twolves are exciting and enjoyable! I hope it persists all season long. Thank you Rambis for finally giving Love some real playing time!

JeffG20
11-12-2010, 11:42 PM
Screw Iggy, the hornets need some love

GoatMilk
11-12-2010, 11:43 PM
holy **** :speechless:

he's gonna start gettin some recognition. this is definitely a breakout game. Beasley also quietly put up 35 too.

back-to-back great games from Beasley?

wow. whats more impressive, that or the 30/30 lol

Hawkeye15
11-12-2010, 11:43 PM
incredible game by Love. I honestly haven't seen a statistical game like this for as long as I can remember

masalex1205
11-12-2010, 11:44 PM
Wow!

black1605
11-12-2010, 11:45 PM
So Moses was the last to get 30 and 30...who was the last player to grab 30 boards alone? Rodman?

abe_froman
11-12-2010, 11:46 PM
:clap: i was hoping..this is just awesome

what54!?
11-12-2010, 11:47 PM
damn thats impressive as hell. Rambis has to play this guy more after this.

He should play beasley more to. He had a damn good game too 35 points? back to back good games. Is he finally breaking out?

Its clear love and beas can play togehter and win. They keep it up they got nice dynamic duo

Sadds The Gr8
11-12-2010, 11:47 PM
back-to-back great games from Beasley?

wow. whats more impressive, that or the 30/30 lol

haha i know right?

godolphins
11-12-2010, 11:47 PM
:clap:

Usher8701
11-12-2010, 11:48 PM
i barely can get 1 rebound in a pick up game. this is amazing

chonbon
11-12-2010, 11:49 PM
So Moses was the last to get 30 and 30...who was the last player to grab 30 boards alone? Rodman?

thought espn said it was barkley in 96... but i may be wrong

Ty Fast
11-12-2010, 11:50 PM
he never even started either

Tony_Starks
11-12-2010, 11:51 PM
[QUOTE=Tony_Starks;15543796]

Amare was frustrated and bewildered. /QUOTE]

Amare was previously frustrated and bewildered by everyone he's guarded every game we've played, his defensive assignment was always either the player of the game or the runner up.


I hear ya man. I remarked today that Amare doesn't rebound or defend and some of your fellow Knick brethren bit my head off but its a well known fact Amare is NOT a defensive player. At all.

Tony_Starks
11-12-2010, 11:52 PM
incredible game by Love. I honestly haven't seen a statistical game like this for as long as I can remember


Imagine the lucky son of a gun that has Love on his fantasy team......

briansc88
11-12-2010, 11:53 PM
im happy for the t-wolves fans coming from a lions fan the little victory's feel good lol

D1JM
11-12-2010, 11:54 PM
lebron for love and beasley

Hawkeye15
11-12-2010, 11:56 PM
watching the game, quite honestly, Love, when on his game, finds every board available. He will win rebounding crowns, and be a beast. Period

shep33
11-12-2010, 11:57 PM
Haha why is Darko starting over him?

knicksfan42
11-12-2010, 11:58 PM
[QUOTE=knicksfan42;15543816]


your fellow Knick brethren bit my head off but its a well known fact Amare is NOT a defensive player. At all.

This is what they do to me on a daily basis. It seems that, because I dislike PFs who can't play with their back to the basket, can't rebound well, can't play D, can't pass, can't handle the ball (wouldn't be a problem if they didn't try to), and has a low bball IQ I hate the Knicks. I mean game after game this guy just plays like crap, defensively its been like he isn't there at all every game, he's two notches below a cardboard cutout, but people are in denial about him. I'm scared no other team would be dumb enough to take on his ****** contract.

Googilyotta21
11-12-2010, 11:59 PM
Haha why is Darko starting over him?

shaking my head.

Hawkeye15
11-12-2010, 11:59 PM
Haha why is Darko starting over him?

he is not. Love has started every game.

Rivera
11-13-2010, 12:03 AM
o crap the guy who stared the is kevin love the best PF right now thread looks like a genius

Rivera
11-13-2010, 12:04 AM
hawkeye is pumped right now

timberwolves talk on the NBA Forum!!!

THE WALL
11-13-2010, 12:05 AM
wow!

Paulliwali
11-13-2010, 12:07 AM
and look whos got him on their fantasy league?

MEEEE! =D

Hustlenomics
11-13-2010, 12:11 AM
to those saying why he doesn't play a lot of minutes I heard that he has a heart condition that limits his minutes

DQL
11-13-2010, 12:12 AM
and look whos got him on their fantasy league?

MEEEE! =D

i have him in 4 of my 5 fantasy leagues. I wasn't wrong

Rego247
11-13-2010, 12:15 AM
all i can say is ..... Respect.

showtym24
11-13-2010, 12:19 AM
BEAST. Never thought he'd be this good.

Kobes a Killer
11-13-2010, 12:26 AM
Wow bow down

ChaseTheMVP
11-13-2010, 12:26 AM
Wow what a beast. I gotta see these highlights.

gbpackers12
11-13-2010, 12:27 AM
:speechless:

NYsFinest
11-13-2010, 12:30 AM
[QUOTE=Tony_Starks;15544015]

This is what they do to me on a daily basis. It seems that, because I dislike PFs who can't play with their back to the basket, can't rebound well, can't play D, can't pass, can't handle the ball (wouldn't be a problem if they didn't try to), and has a low bball IQ I hate the Knicks. I mean game after game this guy just plays like crap, defensively its been like he isn't there at all every game, he's two notches below a cardboard cutout, but people are in denial about him. I'm scared no other team would be dumb enough to take on his ****** contract.

Because its not Amare's fault, D'Antoni is the real idiot. He has this idea that everyone other than Amare has to stand on the three point line and shoot threes and when they arent shooting threes they force it down to Amare to play 1 on 3 in the paint. Amare hasn't had a single easy basket this whole season, he just gets triple teamed and the Knicks don't cut to get open. Landry Fields got lectured by Mike that he cuts too much and he needs to stand on the three point line for spacing. The guy is a total idiot and is the real reason for Knicks problems. Chandler is a great slasher but and awful three point shooter, yet hes top 10 in threes attempted in the NBA, thats how dumb D'Antoni is that he allows that. Gallo was also a much more active player in Europe and drove constantly, dumb D'Antoni once again has him camping on the three point line for "spacing". Guy is an idiot.

SNYmets86
11-13-2010, 12:30 AM
is sad to be a knicks fan ... FIRE MIKE FIRE MIKE FIRE MIKE

JJ_JKidd
11-13-2010, 12:31 AM
Move over Dwight! 20-20 is no longer awesome! 30-30 OMFG unreal! :clap:

NYsFinest
11-13-2010, 12:31 AM
Funny thing is, is Love struggled the first half. The 4th quarter it seemed like he was the only guy on the court (and Beasely).

zambo4president
11-13-2010, 12:32 AM
That is complete domination. I knew Love was legit, nice to see him show it.

JJ_JKidd
11-13-2010, 12:36 AM
and look whos got him on their fantasy league?

MEEEE! =D

Like (Facebook) :D

momoneyyyy
11-13-2010, 12:39 AM
wow great game now thats gonna be hard to top for his career high in rebounds!

bucktownanalyst
11-13-2010, 12:40 AM
So ridiculous! :worthy:

Tony_Starks
11-13-2010, 12:44 AM
[QUOTE=knicksfan42;15544087]

Because its not Amare's fault, D'Antoni is the real idiot. He has this idea that everyone other than Amare has to stand on the three point line and shoot threes and when they arent shooting threes they force it down to Amare to play 1 on 3 in the paint. Amare hasn't had a single easy basket this whole season, he just gets triple teamed and the Knicks don't cut to get open. Landry Fields got lectured by Mike that he cuts too much and he needs to stand on the three point line for spacing. The guy is a total idiot and is the real reason for Knicks problems. Chandler is a great slasher but and awful three point shooter, yet hes top 10 in threes attempted in the NBA, thats how dumb D'Antoni is that he allows that. Gallo was also a much more active player in Europe and drove constantly, dumb D'Antoni once again has him camping on the three point line for "spacing". Guy is an idiot.


Mike is a damn fool but the thing with Amare is he's not a franchise guy. In all fairness he wasn't their 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd choice but when they struck out on the other guys they had to get a "big name" to appease the fans after the past 2 seasons. Thats why I said what I said about Mike eventually throwing Amare under the bus, believe you me when the honeymoon is over it may get reeeeeeeeeal ugly real fast. Especially after embarrassments like tonights debacle....


edit*
BUT if they fire Mike they can salvage the season. They keep him around and you'll be about 5 wins better than last year. Believe that.

godolphins
11-13-2010, 12:45 AM
Start the guy!!!!

shep33
11-13-2010, 12:47 AM
he is not. Love has started every game.

Man I looked at the box score earlier, and it said he wasn't starting... Now it said he was... Maybe I'm seeing things. I dunno... I've been playing too many minutes lately... can't stay focused.

Sorry I had to do it.

Geargo Wallace
11-13-2010, 12:50 AM
aha I knew it was Moses who did it.

White boyyy getting it doneeeeeeeeee

John Walls Era
11-13-2010, 12:53 AM
so good.

KDM1986
11-13-2010, 12:58 AM
Love just finished with 31-31-5. The last time there was a 30-30 game, it was 1982, and Moses Malone pulled it off.

Its time to start giving this man credit.

Nothing but love for Love!:clap:

WSU Tony
11-13-2010, 01:05 AM
Funny how PSD works. Love is the #2 rebounder last year and gets no credit. Now, Love puts up 30/30 and PSD recognizes him. How about Jennings last year? What is he now?

redsox0717
11-13-2010, 01:07 AM
Funny how PSD works. Love is the #2 rebounder last year and gets no credit. Now, Love puts up 30/30 and PSD recognizes him. How about Jennings last year? What is he now?

How is that funny? Last year he was a good rebounder on a horrible team, how much credit do you think he is going to get? Now he puts up an historic game, of course he will get attention for that.

Sly Guy
11-13-2010, 01:10 AM
wow, I thought the 23-24 game was impressive.....this guy is a beast!

WSU Tony
11-13-2010, 01:11 AM
How is that funny? Last year he was a good rebounder on a horrible team, how much credit do you think he is going to get? Now he puts up an historic game, of course he will get attention for that.

It's how emotional PSD is. Jennings was THE THING last year for a while (50 pt game) and now he's, well, nothing?

Hawkeye saw the talent in Love well before I did (I said he had limited potential) and everyone laughed at him. Now, a 30/30 game later, nobody can deny the talent.

Melo4Mvp
11-13-2010, 01:12 AM
So crazy :speechless:

avrpatsfan
11-13-2010, 01:15 AM
Wow that's amazing. What's funny is a thread was just closed that said is Kevin Love one of the best big men in the league. It's looking like he's up there now.

WSU Tony
11-13-2010, 01:25 AM
So it's unanimous that K-Love is "solid" at this point?

LAKERS 24/7
11-13-2010, 01:30 AM
It's how emotional PSD is. Jennings was THE THING last year for a while (50 pt game) and now he's, well, nothing?

Hawkeye saw the talent in Love well before I did (I said he had limited potential) and everyone laughed at him. Now, a 30/30 game later, nobody can deny the talent.

Emotional? Jennings had a historic game last season, and thus he was all the rave deservedly so. He hasn't done anything outrageously spectacular yet, and so he's not being talked about as much.

I'm not sure what you have a problem with. Love just had an amazing game, and consequently is getting more attention. Its how it works.

WSU Tony
11-13-2010, 01:33 AM
Emotional? Jennings had a historic game last season, and thus he was all the rave deservedly so. He hasn't done anything outrageously spectacular yet, and so he's not being talked about as much.

I'm not sure what you have a problem with. Love just had an amazing game, and consequently is getting more attention. Its how it works.

Why such highs and lows? Why the roller coaster?

Grow a pair and call a good player BEFORE they go off for 50 or have a 30/30 game....

PhillyFan001
11-13-2010, 01:35 AM
i was hoping the sixers could get love when he is benched, I will go on the record and say that I never thought love would be this good but after the last two nights there is no way in hell he is going to another team unless that team pays up and I said in the offseason that beasley should be given a second chance

hugepatsfan
11-13-2010, 01:39 AM
Why such highs and lows? Why the roller coaster?

Grow a pair and call a good player BEFORE they go off for 50 or have a 30/30 game....

:facepalm: The guy is proving a lot of people wrong. I had my doubts about Love as a player and thought they were ******** for giving up Mayo - boy was a I wrong. But just because I didn't predict that before he played well doesn't mean I don't have a pair.

Hustlenomics
11-13-2010, 01:46 AM
Why such highs and lows? Why the roller coaster?

Grow a pair and call a good player BEFORE they go off for 50 or have a 30/30 game....

LMFAOOOO dude CALM DOWN :laugh: people knew Kevin Love was good since he was playing college ball

tbone2171
11-13-2010, 02:09 AM
My pick for MIP.
Amazing game, and looks as if Beasley's coming along.
Actually like the young T'Wolves squad with Wesley Johnson.

Anyone want to still say David Kahn's the worst GM in the NBA??

Hustlenomics
11-13-2010, 02:11 AM
Anyone want to still say David Kahn's the worst GM in the NBA??

let's not get ahead of ourselves now..

5ass
11-13-2010, 02:24 AM
what a beast

Ragun
11-13-2010, 02:25 AM
just amazing...wow

John Walls Era
11-13-2010, 02:26 AM
Anyone want to still say David Kahn's the worst GM in the NBA??

He still made some questionable decisions. Also you don't realize that Kevin Love was drafted by McHale and not by Kahn. So I don't give Kahn credit there.

John Walls Era
11-13-2010, 02:26 AM
Kevin Love is nasty good. Future AS.

Robbw241
11-13-2010, 02:28 AM
My redraft team would be so :drool: now

Blazers23
11-13-2010, 02:35 AM
They are gonna have one hell of a team when webster gets back.. wierd how timberwolves have somewhat of a tie to the Northwest. WEbster is from seattle and played for portland, telfair was givin up on by portland as well. Ridinour played college ball at UofO.

C- Beasley
PF- Love
SF- Johnson-
SG- Webster
PG- Ridinour/Telfair

Blazers23
11-13-2010, 02:36 AM
Kevin Love is nasty good. Future AS.

Future? He's already an all-star. He doesn't get the credit he deserves because he plays for minnesota a small market and because he is a white big man.

Robbw241
11-13-2010, 02:38 AM
They are gonna have one hell of a team when webster gets back.. wierd how timberwolves have somewhat of a tie to the Northwest. WEbster is from seattle and played for portland, telfair was givin up on by portland as well. Ridinour played college ball at UofO.

C- Beasley
PF- Love
SF- Johnson-
SG- Webster
PG- Ridinour/Telfair

Beasley at center???

Oefarmy2005
11-13-2010, 02:46 AM
I am speachless about Love's game. Honestly though, I think that having a 23-24 game against the Lakers is more impressive than having a 31-31 game agains the Knicks. I was never super high on Love but I have still always said he is better than David Lee, especially concidering the money they get paid. And the Warriors turned down a Love for Randolph trade reportedly this offseason. Love is a very good player, offensively and rebounding wise, but terrible on D. Either way, it's nice to see my team make history in other ways than loosing by the biggest margin in recent years.

tbone2171
11-13-2010, 03:10 AM
let's not get ahead of ourselves now..

Isn't that what you're precisely doing when you say he's the worst gm??

tbone2171
11-13-2010, 03:11 AM
He still made some questionable decisions. Also you don't realize that Kevin Love was drafted by McHale and not by Kahn. So I don't give Kahn credit there.

Ah yeah i do...Check my original post, I was responding to someone saying they actually like the T-wolves team.

boeknows
11-13-2010, 03:22 AM
It's how emotional PSD is. Jennings was THE THING last year for a while (50 pt game) and now he's, well, nothing?

Hawkeye saw the talent in Love well before I did (I said he had limited potential) and everyone laughed at him. Now, a 30/30 game later, nobody can deny the talent.

Hey now. Who was the one that predicted that trade and was all up on him before we even got him?

boeknows
11-13-2010, 03:27 AM
They are gonna have one hell of a team when webster gets back.. wierd how timberwolves have somewhat of a tie to the Northwest. WEbster is from seattle and played for portland, telfair was givin up on by portland as well. Ridinour played college ball at UofO.

C- Beasley
PF- Love
SF- Johnson-
SG- Webster
PG- Ridinour/Telfair

Naw it would be
Milicic
Love
Beasley
Webster/Johnson
Ridinour/Flynn

borat
11-13-2010, 03:28 AM
Not bad for a white guy.

ClayMatthews
11-13-2010, 03:33 AM
Ridiculous!!! I wish this guy played in Milwaukee.

bklynny67
11-13-2010, 03:34 AM
that was a pretty awesome game but it was against possibly the worst rebounding team in the league.. i wouldnt start saying he's in the elite until he's dominating against good teams.

drobe86
11-13-2010, 03:42 AM
Great game nothing more nothing less.... Those saying Kevin Love is an All star are just plain wrong.... Dude is probably 6'8 at best and has a decent touch, but he's unathletic and against real teams he's not gonna come anywhere near 30 and 30

boeknows
11-13-2010, 03:49 AM
Great game nothing more nothing less.... Those saying Kevin Love is an All star are just plain wrong.... Dude is probably 6'8 at best and has a decent touch, but he's unathletic and against real teams he's not gonna come anywhere near 30 and 30

Yeah thats true...23 points and 24 boards against the Lakers is a horrible game.

drobe86
11-13-2010, 04:00 AM
Yeah thats true...23 points and 24 boards against the Lakers is a horrible game.


Not saying it isn't nor am I saying Kevin Love can't play. I just disagree with the fact that he is a All Star. Dude is a 3 star player on a team full of 1 star guys. Somebody will look like they are shining, and right now Love is that guy. If you put Love on a even an average team, and those numbers come back down to life.

Lim
11-13-2010, 04:23 AM
Not saying it isn't nor am I saying Kevin Love can't play. I just disagree with the fact that he is a All Star. Dude is a 3 star player on a team full of 1 star guys. Somebody will look like they are shining, and right now Love is that guy. If you put Love on a even an average team, and those numbers come back down to life.

whatever ur smoking, let me get some. kevin love had a ******** rebound rate for team usa too btw

Fireworld
11-13-2010, 04:27 AM
Wow, Minnesota is in the news. That's rare.

Wisdom Listens
11-13-2010, 04:35 AM
Some team needs to steal him from Minnesota, he needs to be on a good team, or at least one with hope.

Go **** yourself.

StayOutOfTrees
11-13-2010, 04:36 AM
If you wasn't impressed by Love's game tonight, well, I dunno.

drobe86
11-13-2010, 04:41 AM
Wow guy puts together 2 great games and now he's Bill Russell. Just goes to show you how finnicky sports fans are.

_KB24_
11-13-2010, 05:14 AM
I don't know how to react. Not his biggest fan but 30 rebounds in a game is something I will most likely never see again. Wow.

borat
11-13-2010, 05:38 AM
I honestly think part of Love's game is his appearance. Being a huge UCLA fan i watched all this games the one year he played. The one thing i noticed is despite all his stats, no matter what he did, he was simply that chubby white boy from oregon.

I really think this plays to his benefit today. The guy simply looks nothing like a basketball player. He is a throw back. He is not athletic and he has nothing that scares other teams. He uses this to his advantage by ball hawking and putting his *** into guys. Really a lost art form.

The main thing that Love has going for him is that no matter what numbers he puts up, he will still be that chubster white boy from Oregon.

Everyone underestimates him before the tip off. Simply based on appearance.

sp1derm00
11-13-2010, 05:56 AM
It's funny how a few years ago people regarded Amar'e as "the only player in the league who could put up 40/20 on any given night."

Mplsman
11-13-2010, 05:58 AM
I was there.

Amazing game.

Kashmir13579
11-13-2010, 06:40 AM
Did this thread really get moved from the NBA forum? incompetent mods.

JasonJohnHorn
11-13-2010, 06:45 AM
Gotta love having three threads about this.

This NEEDS three threads.

I kneel down before the man! 30-30? Like seriously, wtf did that come from?

I hope this gives us a little appreciation for Wilt, the dude used to do on a near nightly basis what hasnt been done in almost thirty years!

To Kevin Love: Keep it going. Minnisota fans deserve something to cheer about!

Bruno
11-13-2010, 06:46 AM
Amazing game by Love. Against an Amare led front-court, but still a huge accomplishment.

I was noticing how good a rebounder he was last week against the Lakers. You know when a guy can box out and take rebounds from Lamar Odom like its no big deal- that the guy is special.

JasonJohnHorn
11-13-2010, 06:51 AM
Great game nothing more nothing less.... Those saying Kevin Love is an All star are just plain wrong.... Dude is probably 6'8 at best and has a decent touch, but he's unathletic and against real teams he's not gonna come anywhere near 30 and 30

Well, Dwight Howard is an all-star and best he's done is 20-20. Down playing this is just out of left field from where I'm sitting. Love averaged a double-double as a rookie, and there are perenial all-stars who havent done that. Last year, even with back-up minutes and coming out of an injury and coaching changes, he still made an almost repeat performance of that, and with a healthy offseason and exhibition games, he's really proven how high his potential is. He IS an all-star calibre player.

Bird had no athleticism, and he's considered one of the GOAT, and he wasnt much more than 6'8 himself.

30-30 is amazing and it is a strong indication of the potential this player has. just give Love some love! If he did it in a Mavs jersey.... I'm sure you'd see it my way ;-)

Antipod
11-13-2010, 07:19 AM
Bravos to him

Mplsman
11-13-2010, 07:32 AM
That's me boy.

Hellcrooner
11-13-2010, 09:31 AM
ok leets call him goat after just two very impresive games.
tghen call him bust when he comes down to more normal stats.

God, internet can be frustrating sometimes oon creating hypes.
He has been good ( he isnt allstar good yet but on his way) for a while now but no one seemed to notice and even deemed him a semibust but just one game is enough for that underatign tol become overating?
cpme on

magichatnumber9
11-13-2010, 10:18 AM
Beasley added 35 points to it, after scoring 42 last game. Looks like the Heat coach is the reason Beasley looked horrible in last 2 years.You couldn't be more wrong. Dwayne Wade is the reason Beasley looked so terrible. Spo is a decent coach he need more time as a coordinator first.

netsgiantsyanks
11-13-2010, 10:45 AM
this guy is on my fantasy team :dance:




seriously though, thats a beast performance on his part. that al jefferson trade is looking better by the minute.

redsox0717
11-13-2010, 10:52 AM
Well, Dwight Howard is an all-star and best he's done is 20-20. Down playing this is just out of left field from where I'm sitting. Love averaged a double-double as a rookie, and there are perenial all-stars who havent done that. Last year, even with back-up minutes and coming out of an injury and coaching changes, he still made an almost repeat performance of that, and with a healthy offseason and exhibition games, he's really proven how high his potential is. He IS an all-star calibre player.

Bird had no athleticism, and he's considered one of the GOAT, and he wasnt much more than 6'8 himself.

30-30 is amazing and it is a strong indication of the potential this player has. just give Love some love! If he did it in a Mavs jersey.... I'm sure you'd see it my way ;-)

:facepalm:

Hawkeye15
11-13-2010, 10:55 AM
Great game nothing more nothing less.... Those saying Kevin Love is an All star are just plain wrong.... Dude is probably 6'8 at best and has a decent touch, but he's unathletic and against real teams he's not gonna come anywhere near 30 and 30

neither can anyone else in the last 28 years.

JayW_1023
11-13-2010, 11:00 AM
What gets lost in the shuffle is that he has a great overall game. He can pass and shoot the lights out as well. Only his poor interior D keeps him from being an elite player.

Lim
11-13-2010, 11:19 AM
kevin love avg'd 14 and 11 last year in only 28 mpg. that is sick.

Pauleboman
11-13-2010, 11:23 AM
kevin love avg'd 14 and 11 last year in only 28 mpg. that is sick.

Yup that is sick and what a game and comeback by the Wolves.
Congrads Kevin Love!

Hawkeye15
11-13-2010, 11:26 AM
anyone want to try and guess what he will finish the season averaging?

OG "Dee" LOCc
11-13-2010, 11:32 AM
the knicks got me heated and i didnt even see the damn game

jkiddvc20
11-13-2010, 11:34 AM
anyone want to try and guess what he will finish the season averaging?

18 and 11

WSU Tony
11-13-2010, 11:40 AM
16/13

todu82
11-13-2010, 11:45 AM
Good for him, great performance no matter how you slice it.

celph titled
11-13-2010, 12:25 PM
Kevin Love would be better off on the Miami Heat than Bosh. Hes what they need. Banger, someone tough and willing to fight in the paint

canuck_brav_fan
11-13-2010, 12:28 PM
What makes this guy so good at rebounding? I mean he's 6'8" and got 30 rebounds, thats about as impressive as it gets.

Hawkeye15
11-13-2010, 12:30 PM
What makes this guy so good at rebounding? I mean he's 6'8" and got 30 rebounds, thats about as impressive as it gets.

are you actually asking what makes him a great rebounder? I can tell you if you are interested

WolvesJagsOs
11-13-2010, 12:30 PM
Some team needs to steal him from Minnesota, he needs to be on a good team, or at least one with hope.

lol, are you serious?

Baller1
11-13-2010, 12:38 PM
Pretty insane performance. Hawkeye, I know you and I have been waiting for Love to get his shot because he deserved it (especially after the World Tournament)... Well he's making the most of it now.

Great job by him.

WolvesJagsOs
11-13-2010, 12:41 PM
Wow guy puts together 2 great games and now he's Bill Russell. Just goes to show you how finnicky sports fans are.

What are you smoking broseph? 7 of his 10 games in 28-29 MPG he has Double Doubles.

Kakaroach
11-13-2010, 12:44 PM
What a crazy accomplishment, big ups to K-Love. 30-30, I mean thats just ridiculous.

Phat Pat 94
11-13-2010, 12:52 PM
hes a stud, theres a reason he was on team USA...

Raps18-19 Champ
11-13-2010, 01:02 PM
Beasley+Love=Goon squad.

sep11ie
11-13-2010, 01:07 PM
Incredible game. He's really showing his potential this year.

el_primo_nano
11-13-2010, 01:07 PM
He is a warrior. he is a coach's dream, a rebounding machine

Raps18-19 Champ
11-13-2010, 01:15 PM
Set this Mofo next to Bargnani.

That would be a greazy white front court.

Raph12
11-13-2010, 02:17 PM
Love needs minutes, coach needs to stop hating and treat him like the star he could be... 26mpg is inexcusable.

Hustlenomics
11-13-2010, 02:20 PM
damn everyone's been posting up great numbers against the knicks :laugh2:
Rondo with 24 assists
Love with 30 Rebounds
Kobe with 60 the other year

Rafer17
11-13-2010, 02:25 PM
Holy smokes K.Love is a beast

fadedmario
11-13-2010, 02:39 PM
Love is a Beast. btw I have a RC Auto of Kevin Love (UD Premier 53/75) listed on Ebay right now if anyone's interested

Hawkeye15
11-13-2010, 02:54 PM
the scary part is, Love only had 6-8 at the half. He scored 25 points, and had 23 rebounds in the 2nd half alone.

J_M_B
11-13-2010, 03:10 PM
What a crazy game. Kevin is definitely underrated in this league.

Beasley added 35 also, looks like this team has a bright future ahead of them.

Da Knicks
11-13-2010, 03:32 PM
Love should send D'antoni a gift since D'antoni made it all possible for him with his f'd up offense he runs. How pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!

Hawkeye15
11-13-2010, 03:33 PM
Love should send D'antoni a gift since D'antoni made it all possible for him with his f'd up offense he runs. How pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!

I think love has more to do with it than Mike D. Nobody has done it in 28 years, and there have been FAR worse interiors than the current Knicks

JWO35
11-13-2010, 03:37 PM
Most
Improved
Player?

:eyebrow:

Oefarmy2005
11-13-2010, 04:37 PM
This just one game. I don't get how one game changes everyones opinion of the kid. He has always been good, which the Wolves fans know, and although his D is something I just can't get over, it was a great trade to trade Mayo and a crap load of bad contracts for Love. He will probably never post those kinds of numbers in his career, but he has already had multiple 20-20 games and he is 21 I believe. As I've said before, for people saying he is a good player on a bad team and he got his numbers against the Knicks: He just posted 23pts and 24 rbs against the Lakers, who are no doubt the best team in the league and are a very good rebounding team.

Oefarmy2005
11-13-2010, 04:38 PM
He is not going to get MIP, or make the Allstar game, unless the Wolves win at least 30 games this season. That's just the way it works. It's not the best players that get the awards, it's the best players from the top 15 teams that get them.

Hunter48MVP
11-13-2010, 05:40 PM
What a player. Kevin Love is the man!

MJ-BULLS
11-13-2010, 07:09 PM
Love is a beast. great game.

Mplsman
11-13-2010, 07:14 PM
the scary part is, Love only had 6-8 at the half. He scored 25 points, and had 23 rebounds in the 2nd half alone.

That is the scary part. What a freak.

WSU Tony
11-13-2010, 11:07 PM
If Love and Beasley can stay in the headlines, Rubio might, well, you know. Fingers crossed.

hugepatsfan
11-13-2010, 11:55 PM
I don't understand this "bad team" stuff. How the **** does that help rebounding? Love is a beast on the boards. He is one of the best outlet passers (I really don't know how to determine that but everybody says he is so I'll go w/ it). He is a limited offensive player, but he's developing. His D is pretty bad though. Overall he's a real solid player who is great in one area (rebounding) w/ the potential to improve.

alchemist0123
11-14-2010, 12:17 AM
[QUOTE=Tony_Starks;15543796]

Amare was frustrated and bewildered. /QUOTE]

Amare was previously frustrated and bewildered by everyone he's guarded every game we've played, his defensive assignment was always either the player of the game or the runner up.

i think the knicks overpaid for him, he's undersized at 6'9, a product of the phx system that plays next to no defense, i think its a toss up between him and bosh as the crown holder for bigs with no d and dont rebound. at least amare got heart though, i give him that.

*Superman*
11-14-2010, 12:18 AM
How can your last name be Love when you are so sick!

bklynny67
11-14-2010, 01:57 AM
great game indeed.. but everyone seems to be wanting to suck his **** now. can we all say...

"OOVEERR RRAATTED"

cambovenzi
11-14-2010, 02:07 AM
great game indeed.. but everyone seems to be wanting to suck his **** now. can we all say...

"OOVEERR RRAATTED"

Yea i think he went from a pretty good underrated player flying under the radar to a pretty overrated one due to the past few games.

I've seen people try to claim hes the best big man in the game.. 30 rebounds is impressive, but come on now.

drobe86
11-14-2010, 04:20 AM
Funny how the internet works... Love went from being a solid young player with potential, to he's one of the best big men in the game. I'm hearing people say he's on the level of Bill Russell.... Really people?

drobe86
11-14-2010, 04:24 AM
What are you smoking broseph? 7 of his 10 games in 28-29 MPG he has Double Doubles.

A double double can be 10 and 10. That's not that damn hard to do. Hell Zach Randolph does it year in year out is he an Elite player? Paul Milsaps had 40+ doubles a few years ago is he elite? Love plays his role well and he is a good rebounder but lets not go overboard. If he was as good as you people made him out to be he would be getting more than 28 minutes per game. But his coaches knows K love is a defensive liability..... IDK why you people cannot see it?

drobe86
11-14-2010, 04:32 AM
Well, Dwight Howard is an all-star and best he's done is 20-20. Down playing this is just out of left field from where I'm sitting. Love averaged a double-double as a rookie, and there are perenial all-stars who havent done that. Last year, even with back-up minutes and coming out of an injury and coaching changes, he still made an almost repeat performance of that, and with a healthy offseason and exhibition games, he's really proven how high his potential is. He IS an all-star calibre player.

Bird had no athleticism, and he's considered one of the GOAT, and he wasnt much more than 6'8 himself.

30-30 is amazing and it is a strong indication of the potential this player has. just give Love some love! If he did it in a Mavs jersey.... I'm sure you'd see it my way ;-)

1. Putting Kevin Love and Dwight Howard in the same sentence is just flat out disrespectful to begin with. Kevin love couldn't shine Dwights shoes EVER.... That comparison alone should get you banned from psd for awhile.

2. Why do you think he gets backup minutes? Let me tell you, he's NOT good enough to start. And if he does start he plays limited minutes because he is the definition of a DEFENSIVE LIABILITY. Sure you can bring down 20-30 boards but if you're giving up 30-40 pts a night in limited minutes then it equals itself out.

3. Every Player deals with injuries and at some point in time a coaching change. Neither of those represent a valid argument is is nothing more than an EXCUSE.


Look, Kevin Love is a solid rebounder and is a decent player in the NBA. Sure he put together two OUTSTANDING games, so what that doesn't mean he's great. ITs 1 or 2 games. Milsaps put up 46 is he great? Brandon Jennings put up 55 once as a rookie so he must be ascending to the level of CP3 or Darren Williams right? WRONG. It's one game let's treat it as such. PSD fans go overboard and its ultimately clear in this situation.

TheGoodGerman
11-14-2010, 09:29 AM
So, Kevin Love is not on the level of Bill Russell. Because: Bill Russell is Bill Russell. Like, Jordan is Jordan or Magic Johnson is Magic Johnson. These a all-time Greats, Legends, Goats and HoF's and nobody should compare anyone to them, because they are unique and always will be unique.

But, Love needs to be respected. Not only for the 31-31 but, also for his improving. He seems to get a really decent player, with a good bball-iq and some nice moves. Also, his attitude on the court seems to be set and right. I think people don't like him and don't rate him that high because of other things than his ball-game. Because, the guy really CAN DO SOME SERIOUS BALL. Period.



EDIT: The guy above my post wrote "Darren" Williams ... hilarious.

dodie53
11-14-2010, 09:39 AM
wow fack
Love!

SouthSideRookie
11-14-2010, 10:38 AM
Funny how the internet works... Love went from being a solid young player with potential, to he's one of the best big men in the game. I'm hearing people say he's on the level of Bill Russell.... Really people?

This is from Kevin's blog before the Knick game:


Anyway, when I'm grabbing a lot of rebounds, I'm definitely aware of it, but mostly what I'm thinking to myself is, "Keep going to the glass, keep going to the glass." Because one thing you can always do is rebound. If you aren't getting your shots, or you're not working your way into the offense, you can always go to the glass. We have some pretty good shooters on this team but even the best players only shoot 50 percent, so you have to go for every rebound.

For me, rebounding is all a mindset. My dad told me back in the day that there is no such thing as a selfish rebound because it's a team stat. If you have to fight one of your own teammates for a rebound, do it—as long as you get it. Also, I studied the greats. Dennis Rodman had it figured out: he knew that most shots are going to come to the other side of the rim. So that's how I position myself. And Bill Russell always used to say that 80 percent of rebounds are below the rim. I'm not the kind of guy who's going to jump and touch the top of the square every time. I use my body for positioning, and I work relentlessly underneath the rim. You don't have to be the most athletic guy in the world to get a bunch of rebounds, so I just try and take what my dad said to heart, what Rodman said to heart, and most importantly what Bill Russell said to heart. He's got 11 championship rings so I think he knows what he's talking about.

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201010/kevin-love-will-tear-us-apart-gq-blog

Nighthawk
11-14-2010, 10:53 AM
Let me jump in and show love for Love. First player since Moses to accomplish the feat. Dude can ball I dont care if its the knicks or not. 30 and 30 is impressive in the NBA. Didnt watch the game but did NY even attempt to body him?? After 19- 20 boards dont you crash the boards? Anyways Love is still young and his offense game will improve. He is a great rebounder and on a championship team with scorers around him he could be very valuable in the paint.

Hawkeye15
11-14-2010, 11:01 AM
seriously, this thread has slowly turned into a partial Love bash thread. Really??? The man just accomplished something Dwight Howard has never done. Nobody is saying he is better. But facts are facts. Give the man the respect he deserves for one of the best games in years.

pistonsfanomg
11-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Wow....

Firebug
11-14-2010, 11:57 AM
Just freaking amazing. I have not seen a feat like that in my life, (I'm 27 and Moses Malone did it when I wasn't even born yet). How often will we see that like this? It's a rare feat and who knows we will go years and years before we will see another 30-30?

BTW, even if it was against the Knicks but congratulations, Kevin Love! You have dominated the Wolves' franchise record. Not even KG or Big AL would have accomplished that as a Wolf. Amazing, just amazing.

Oefarmy2005
11-14-2010, 12:26 PM
Way too much nationwide attention for this thing. They played the Knicks who absolutely can't rebound worth ****. Great game by Love, but that's it. He's still inconsistent, just watch him go for 8 pts and 7 rbs tonight. Beasley is still a better player, and his back to back great games are more impressive to me.

Hawkeye15
11-14-2010, 12:29 PM
Way too much nationwide attention for this thing. They played the Knicks who absolutely can't rebound worth ****. Great game by Love, but that's it. He's still inconsistent, just watch him go for 8 pts and 7 rbs tonight. Beasley is still a better player, and his back to back great games are more impressive to me.

not sure how 31-31-5 isn't as impressive as anything you have seen honestly. I understand its only one game, but its arguably the best overall game in years.
But yeah, consistency is all that matters in the long run. Atlanta has lost 4 straight, and we are riding high. I smell a 20 point loss.
This thread is about Love's great game. I think it needs to be addressed, and it means nothing more than acknowledging a great performance.

Mplsman
11-14-2010, 05:53 PM
Way too much nationwide attention for this thing. They played the Knicks who absolutely can't rebound worth ****. Great game by Love, but that's it. He's still inconsistent, just watch him go for 8 pts and 7 rbs tonight. Beasley is still a better player, and his back to back great games are more impressive to me.

22 points, 17 Rebs on 7-15 shooting today for Kevin Love.

Hawkeye15
11-14-2010, 06:03 PM
averaging 20-19.4 in his last 5 games. Dang

Bishnoff
11-14-2010, 06:16 PM
What a star. I hope the T-Wolves trade him to the Suns :D

aussie
11-14-2010, 07:43 PM
it was actually a 31-31

Nighthawk
11-14-2010, 07:48 PM
LOL @ people saying "its just ONE game". Yeah. One game no-one has had in how many years? This thread is to respect its rarity and give Love props on his heart, toughness, and crazy *** game against the Knicks. If you dont like Love, think this was impressive(it more than is), or just wanna criticize then dont even enter and post.

Khalifa21
11-14-2010, 07:55 PM
The guy is hands down the best rebounder in the league. He just has an incredible nose for the ball and has all the hustle and energy you could want from a big guy.

DeyAce
11-14-2010, 07:56 PM
He beasted

Byronicle
11-14-2010, 08:34 PM
Beasley added 35 points to it, after scoring 42 last game. Looks like the Heat coach is the reason Beasley looked horrible in last 2 years.

that is because Spo made plays on Wade alone

Mplsman
11-14-2010, 08:35 PM
LOL @ people saying "its just ONE game". Yeah. One game no-one has had in how many years? This thread is to respect its rarity and give Love props on his heart, toughness, and crazy *** game against the Knicks. If you dont like Love, think this was impressive(it more than is), or just wanna criticize then dont even enter and post.

This.

topdog
11-14-2010, 08:44 PM
Every boxscore I look at it seems like Love has a rebound for every point he scores and that usually means about 15 or so of each - some odd symetry.

No one talks about how Kobe scored his 81 against a team like the Raptors or that he didn't have very good teammates. Love is a great rebounder and an improving scorer, I wouldn't bet against him doing it again some day...

redsox0717
11-14-2010, 09:03 PM
22 points, 17 Rebs on 7-15 shooting today for Kevin Love.


averaging 20-19.4 in his last 5 games. Dang

Yet the Wolves keep losing so no one cares.

Hawkeye15
11-14-2010, 09:22 PM
Yet the Wolves keep losing so no one cares.

they won 2 of the last 3, and pushed the Lakers in a loss.
What exactly is the point of bashing in this thread? Obviously, from the numerous responses in this thread, and every major sports site reporting this last night and all day today, there are PLENTY of people who care.

Does it make you feel big to crap on a franchise that has been down, and a franchise that finally has excitement? Grow up.

fadedmario
11-14-2010, 09:28 PM
Kevin Love is the man

drobe86
11-14-2010, 11:34 PM
All hail to Kevin Love hes the greatest big man ever..... There you K Love d riders are you happy now?

Hawkeye15
11-14-2010, 11:36 PM
All hail to Kevin Love hes the greatest big man ever..... There you K Love d riders are you happy now?

so giving praise to a player who just had a performance that hasn't been matched in 28 years is the same as stalking Love?

Throwing it out there again. Grow up...

black1605
11-14-2010, 11:42 PM
PSD is hilarious. A star is emerging, but people still find a way to hate. Kobe scored 81? Oh but it was against the Raptors. Kevin Love grabbed 30 and 30? Oh but he plays for the Timberwolves. Recognize game you losers.

Reggie Miller
11-14-2010, 11:46 PM
holy ****

SouthSideRookie
11-14-2010, 11:52 PM
PSD is hilarious. A star is emerging, but people still find a way to hate. Kobe scored 81? Oh but it was against the Raptors. Kevin Love grabbed 30 and 30? Oh but he plays for the Timberwolves. Recognize game you losers.

Best post of this thread.

drobe86
11-15-2010, 12:00 AM
so giving praise to a player who just had a performance that hasn't been matched in 28 years is the same as stalking Love?

Throwing it out there again. Grow up...


Just saying, people on PSD talk about this guy like he's top 5 at his position or something. Dude has never seen an all star game and won't in the near future. Add that to the fact that he's a defensive liability and he doesn't impact the Wolves because they rarely if ever Win. Don't get me wrong, he's not garbage, but PSD has hyped him up far more than what he has done or deserved......

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 12:08 AM
Just saying, people on PSD talk about this guy like he's top 5 at his position or something. Dude has never seen an all star game and won't in the near future. Add that to the fact that he's a defensive liability and he doesn't impact the Wolves because they rarely if ever Win. Don't get me wrong, he's not garbage, but PSD has hyped him up far more than what he has done or deserved......

wtf are you talking about? Who, outside a few outliers, say Love is a top 5 PF??????
Do you even understand how to measure what win shares a player produces?

drobe86
11-15-2010, 12:18 AM
I just noticed your sig reps the Wolves.... I won't argue with you because thats your team, and you obviously see Love in a higher light. I have a lot of respect for love for overcoming his lack of height, and athletic ability, but he's really nothing special. And if he was he would get far more minutes than he's getting.... He's a great rebounder and average to below average at everything else. People are hyped over his run the last 3 games or so....

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 12:23 AM
I just noticed your sig reps the Wolves.... I won't argue with you because thats your team, and you obviously see Love in a higher light. I have a lot of respect for love for overcoming his lack of height, and athletic ability, but he's really nothing special. And if he was he would get far more minutes than he's getting.... He's a great rebounder and average to below average at everything else. People are hyped over his run the last 3 games or so....

it doesn't matter if my sig reads the Mavs. I am asking you to explain how he is overrated. Because you can't. PSD talks about him after a 23/24 game, and a 31/31 game, and you have an issue with individuals bringing up games of that stature?

Where else has he been overrated? Please show me

black1605
11-15-2010, 12:26 AM
He only got 22 and 17 tonight. It's time to talk bust status.

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 12:28 AM
He only got 22 and 17 tonight. It's time to talk bust status.

seriously. 20-19.4 over the past 5 games deserves a thread on how limited and pathetic he will become

drobe86
11-15-2010, 12:31 AM
Dudes averaging 12 and 10 for his career. Hardly Elite... Look, he's a decent player man but hardly thread worthy. We should be talking about guys like Dwight Howard, Kobe, Lebron, Hell Danny Granger but Kevin Love? Cmon Man.......

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 12:33 AM
Dudes averaging 12 and 10 for his career. Hardly Elite... Look, he's a decent player man but hardly thread worthy. We should be talking about guys like Dwight Howard, Kobe, Lebron, Hell Danny Granger but Kevin Love? Cmon Man.......

so you are saying the first 30-30 game in 28 years, something Dwight, Kobe, LeBron, Granger, or ANYONE ELSE IN THE LAST 28 YEARS HASN'T DONE, isn't thread worthy?

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 12:33 AM
what do you consider thread worthy? A Dirk night where he goes for 30/10?

drobe86
11-15-2010, 12:39 AM
what do you consider thread worthy? A Dirk night where he goes for 30/10?

Why do you have to go there? Lol.... like i said man Kevin Love is a decent player but he's nothing special. Its a slow day in the NBA when we're talking about Kevin Love. I can probably name you 50 better players than him off the top of my head.....

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 12:41 AM
Why do you have to go there? Lol.... like i said man Kevin Love is a decent player but he's nothing special. Its a slow day in the NBA when we're talking about Kevin Love. I can probably name you 50 better players than him off the top of my head.....

go for it. On top of that, please tell me how Love is nothing special, before I even bother responding on why he is. Instead of posting posts without evidence or substance, tell me why. I am interested to read it

topdog
11-15-2010, 12:41 AM
Dudes averaging 12 and 10 for his career. Hardly Elite... Look, he's a decent player man but hardly thread worthy. We should be talking about guys like Dwight Howard, Kobe, Lebron, Hell Danny Granger but Kevin Love? Cmon Man.......

This is just ignorant. No one has grabbed 30 rebounds since Barkley and the last person to grab 30 and put up 30 was Moses Malone twenty years ago. Do you realize what any of that means?!

So we are only supposed to talk about a select few players all f'n time? I love too how you probably purposefully left Dirk off your little list because your probably a homer for him. Granger?! What has he done lately? Is he leading the league in anything? And that 12.7 and 10 is in less than twenty-some minutes and has increased each of the past 2.15 years.

drobe86
11-15-2010, 12:51 AM
go for it. On top of that, please tell me how Love is nothing special, before I even bother responding on why he is. Instead of posting posts without evidence or substance, tell me why. I am interested to read it


I won't bother naming the players better than him because you know who they are.


these are PF that are special.
Tim Duncan (in his prime)
Kevin Garnett (In his prime)
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Bosh (before miami)
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Lamarcus Aldridge
Zach Randolph (last 2 years)

Kevin Love isn't on the same planet as any of the above players.

I'm not saying Kevin Love isn't good, I'm saying he's nothing special and theres nothing wrong with that. Theres only 1 KG, Duncan, or Dirk.... Thats all I'm saying

drobe86
11-15-2010, 12:52 AM
Grangers giving you a cool 22 this season. Just had 34 last night. Dudes a baller

topdog
11-15-2010, 12:55 AM
Grangers giving you a cool 22 this season. Just had 34 last night. Dudes a baller

Oh, you mean kinda like Michael Beasley who's averaging a hot 20 and had 42 the other night.

drobe86
11-15-2010, 01:05 AM
Oh, you mean kinda like Michael Beasley who's averaging a hot 20 and had 42 the other night.

Grangers done it the last 3 years though.... Beasley just started making plays on a bad Minnesota team....

topdog
11-15-2010, 01:12 AM
Grangers done it the last 3 years though.... Beasley just started making plays on a bad Minnesota team....

Are you calling the Pacers a good team? Fringe 8th seed in the East is not good. Granger didn't play with Wade either, he's been "the man" for the last 3 years. My point is not that Beasley is great - it is that Granger is no more deserving of discussion than Beasley, who like Love, is more interesting exactly because they are still up-and-coming and are producing these numbers. Love's 18 and 14.6 in 30 minutes in his 3rd season are far more interesting and impressive than Granger's 22 and 4.9 in nearly 40 minutes on a .500 team.

Point is: you are biased against certain players and towards others; if you don't want to contribute to a thread, don't post in it. Don't player hate just 'cuz you don't appreciate:cool:

drobe86
11-15-2010, 01:18 AM
I'm not biased against anybody but there has to be a reason why I'm writing about you. And a guy averaging 12 and 10 just isn't anything to really write about..... I'm not saying the Pacers are good but Danny Granger balls night in night out no matter what. And the wins they do get are a reflect on him. Minnesota rarely ever wins, so it's hard for me to appreciate a player like Kevin Love. Because if he was as good as people say 1. He would be getting more minutes, and 2. They would actually be winning games......

This beasley and loves what 3rd year? It doesn't take that long to make an impact. Look at guys like Steph Curry, B Jennings, Ty Evans, collison, etc. All guys who showed up and were ballers since DAY 1. And thats just 09 draft...

drobe86
11-15-2010, 02:13 AM
I challenge anybody go back and watch the t-wolves vs. the hawks sunday nov. 14, 2010 and then come back and tell me k love is a great player. Dude got dominated by Josh Smith from start to finish. Josh was blocking his shots catching alley oop dunks on Love etc. Love is decent but all this hype must stop.....

reemy
11-15-2010, 03:42 AM
I challenge anybody go back and watch the t-wolves vs. the hawks sunday nov. 14, 2010 and then come back and tell me k love is a great player. Dude got dominated by Josh Smith from start to finish. Josh was blocking his shots catching alley oop dunks on Love etc. Love is decent but all this hype must stop.....

I see you seen the highlights on NBA TV :eyebrow:

bayarealuv21
11-15-2010, 03:45 AM
I wish this guy was on my team... I'd trade anyone but Tyreke to have him.

AsfanSince99
11-15-2010, 04:27 AM
To be on the same list as Kareem, Parish, and Moses is in itself pretty ******* amazing! I'm liking the duo with Love and Beasley. Too bad that's all they got.

Drobe86, you sound like a hater, just give the man his due.

Mplsman
11-15-2010, 04:53 AM
To be on the same list as Kareem, Parish, and Moses is in itself pretty ******* amazing! I'm liking the duo with Love and Beasley. Too bad that's all they got.

Drobe86, you sound like a hater, just give the man his due.

That.

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 09:25 AM
I won't bother naming the players better than him because you know who they are.


these are PF that are special.
Tim Duncan (in his prime)
Kevin Garnett (In his prime)
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Bosh (before miami)
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Lamarcus Aldridge
Zach Randolph (last 2 years)

Kevin Love isn't on the same planet as any of the above players.

I'm not saying Kevin Love isn't good, I'm saying he's nothing special and theres nothing wrong with that. Theres only 1 KG, Duncan, or Dirk.... Thats all I'm saying


I think ya should. Sending them to my profile is ducking the criticism you deserve. He just gave Amare 31-31. Aldridge, Randolph? Really?

I, and nobody here, is saying he is Dirk, or prime KG. Where do you see that? This is to congradulate a player for a performance that hasn't been replicated in 28 years. Something you refuse to grasp.
22 years old, leading the NBA in rebounding, averaging over 18 a night. Sorry dude, but whether you belive it or not, he is a star in the making.

How many times have you watched him? Your assessment has zero insight, and only blanket statements with no shred of proof

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 10:17 AM
I'm not biased against anybody but there has to be a reason why I'm writing about you. And a guy averaging 12 and 10 just isn't anything to really write about..... I'm not saying the Pacers are good but Danny Granger balls night in night out no matter what. And the wins they do get are a reflect on him. Minnesota rarely ever wins, so it's hard for me to appreciate a player like Kevin Love. Because if he was as good as people say 1. He would be getting more minutes, and 2. They would actually be winning games......

This beasley and loves what 3rd year? It doesn't take that long to make an impact. Look at guys like Steph Curry, B Jennings, Ty Evans, collison, etc. All guys who showed up and were ballers since DAY 1. And thats just 09 draft...

who are you referring to here? You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about here. Love has been a good player since day 1. Whether you choose to pay attention is on you. And he is now getting 18.5/14.5. So, take it how you will

fadedmario
11-15-2010, 05:13 PM
I'm a sports card dealer. Kevin Love has made me a a ton of money lately. Thank ya much

cwilson21
11-15-2010, 05:36 PM
This thread has turned comical the past couple of days.

Hawkeye15
11-15-2010, 05:52 PM
I won't bother naming the players better than him because you know who they are.


these are PF that are special.
Tim Duncan (in his prime)
Kevin Garnett (In his prime)
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Bosh (before miami)
Pau Gasol
Amare Stoudemire
Lamarcus Aldridge
Zach Randolph (last 2 years)

Kevin Love isn't on the same planet as any of the above players.

I'm not saying Kevin Love isn't good, I'm saying he's nothing special and theres nothing wrong with that. Theres only 1 KG, Duncan, or Dirk.... Thats all I'm saying


here is the list of players you put on my profile that you feel are better than Love

1.Cp3, D-will, rondo, rose, westbrook,b jennings, steph curry, d harris, j kidd, john wall, aaron brooks, chauncey billups, dj augustin, jameer nelson, darren collison, steve nash
2. kobe, joe johnson, brandon roy, iggy,ray allen, jet terry, jamal crawford, rip hamilton, stephen jackson, vince carter, ben gordon, monta ellis
3. lebron, melo, granger, rudy gay, caron butler, reshard lewis, durant, tayshaun prince, paul pierce, gerald wallace
4. kg, dirk, bosh, duncan, gasol, zach randolph, lamarcus aldridge, josh smith, carlos boozer,
5. dwight howard, brooke lopez, bogut, al horford, tyson chandler, chris kaman,



Have fun backing a bunch of these guys up

Nighthawk
11-15-2010, 06:00 PM
Talk about a Hater??? This dudes the definition

You try and show a player respect for an incredible rare and historic game and all this guy does is list players better than Kevin Love. Who cares about KG or Duncan. Who cares if Love doesnt grab another rebound all year long.

He grabbed 31 god damn boards and dropped 31 on Amare. Respect it and move on to the next thread. Nobody is putting Love into the Hall of Fame. Relax DROBE

D1JM
11-15-2010, 06:01 PM
blair would put up crazy numbers if he could stay out of foul trouble

fresh prince
11-15-2010, 08:57 PM
so you are saying the first 30-30 game in 28 years, something Dwight, Kobe, LeBron, Granger, or ANYONE ELSE IN THE LAST 28 YEARS HASN'T DONE, isn't thread worthy?

Hahahahaa.. Wow

I guess not...

For what its worth Love is goign to be a beast in this league.. Not sure why or where the hate is comign from?

boeknows
11-16-2010, 12:13 AM
here is the list of players you put on my profile that you feel are better than Love

1.Cp3, D-will, rondo, rose, westbrook,b jennings, steph curry, d harris, j kidd, john wall, aaron brooks, chauncey billups, dj augustin, jameer nelson, darren collison, steve nash
2. kobe, joe johnson, brandon roy, iggy,ray allen, jet terry, jamal crawford, rip hamilton, stephen jackson, vince carter, ben gordon, monta ellis
3. lebron, melo, granger, rudy gay, caron butler, reshard lewis, durant, tayshaun prince, paul pierce, gerald wallace
4. kg, dirk, bosh, duncan, gasol, zach randolph, lamarcus aldridge, josh smith, carlos boozer,
5. dwight howard, brooke lopez, bogut, al horford, tyson chandler, chris kaman,



Have fun backing a bunch of these guys up

IDK about that list as being better than Love is right now.

Hawkeye15
11-16-2010, 09:26 AM
IDK about that list as being better than Love is right now.

wasn't my list. It was the dude disrespecting Love in this thread's list, he just attempted to duck out posting it here, and posted it on my visitor messages. I decided to share his list/opinion

I know for a fact that many of the players on that list are not as good as Love

pebloemer
11-16-2010, 09:56 AM
wasn't my list. It was the dude disrespecting Love in this thread's list, he just attempted to duck out posting it here, and posted it on my visitor messages. I decided to share his list/opinion

I know for a fact that many of the players on that list are not as good as Love

ie. DJ Augustin?

arkanian215
11-16-2010, 06:25 PM
I don't understand this "bad team" stuff. How the **** does that help rebounding? Love is a beast on the boards. He is one of the best outlet passers (I really don't know how to determine that but everybody says he is so I'll go w/ it). He is a limited offensive player, but he's developing. His D is pretty bad though. Overall he's a real solid player who is great in one area (rebounding) w/ the potential to improve.

It's funny cuz I don't remember anyone using the excuse that Durant's basic stats were good because he was on a "bad team" when his team won 20 and then 23 games.

tcav701
11-16-2010, 06:44 PM
Kevin Love is maybe a top 5 rebounder in the league and for sure in the top 8. Offensive rebounds will lead to scoing easy put backs but that's certianly not inflation because he did his work on the boards.

That being said, Love is a special player with prime skills at his postition. He without question, has all star talent and even after this game is very underated soley because he plays in Minnesotta.

You see unwarrated credit going out to triple doubles every week when a 30/30 game is a million times more impressive.

Hawkeye15
11-16-2010, 06:48 PM
Kevin Love is maybe a top 5 rebounder in the league and for sure in the top 8. Offensive rebounds will lead to scoing easy put backs but that's certianly not inflation because he did his work on the boards.

That being said, Love is a special player with prime skills at his postition. He without question, has all star talent and even after this game is very underated soley because he plays in Minnesotta.

You see unwarrated credit going out to triple doubles every week when a 30/30 game is a million times more impressive.

Love is currently the best rebounder in the NBA. But I agree with your post.

tcav701
11-16-2010, 06:53 PM
Love is currently the best rebounder in the NBA. But I agree with your post.

I meant overall talent, not just this years numbers. I still put a couple guys over him career/talent wise when crashing boards.

But I think he's an amazing talent and do think he is the most fundamental rebounder along with Duncan.

drobe86
11-16-2010, 07:04 PM
Love is currently the best rebounder in the NBA. But I agree with your post.

Dude they've played what 9 or 10 games.... lol For his career he averages 12 and 10 impressive but hardly what you are making him out to be...

Hawkeye15
11-16-2010, 09:52 PM
Dude they've played what 9 or 10 games.... lol For his career he averages 12 and 10 impressive but hardly what you are making him out to be...

do you know what rebound rate is, or should I explain it for you?

tbone2171
11-17-2010, 12:16 PM
Amazing game by Love. Against an Amare led front-court, but still a huge accomplishment.

I was noticing how good a rebounder he was last week against the Lakers. You know when a guy can box out and take rebounds from Lamar Odom like its no big deal- that the guy is special.

:laugh:

tbone2171
11-17-2010, 12:39 PM
Dude they've played what 9 or 10 games.... lol For his career he averages 12 and 10 impressive but hardly what you are making him out to be...

U Mad? Did Kevin Love bang your girlfriend or something?

drobe86
11-17-2010, 03:04 PM
do you know what rebound rate is, or should I explain it for you?

Sure you're going to try and argue that with more playing time he would amass more rebounds. WEll, he doesn't get more pt so its pointless in talking about that statistic. It's sad that you think more of Kevin Love than his own coach does.

Giraffes Rule
11-17-2010, 03:10 PM
Sure you're going to try and argue that with more playing time he would amass more rebounds. WEll, he doesn't get more pt so its pointless in talking about that statistic. It's sad that you think more of Kevin Love than his own coach does.

Everyone with any basketball sense thinks more of Kevin Love than his coach does.

drobe86
11-17-2010, 03:14 PM
Everyone with any basketball sense thinks more of Kevin Love than his coach does.

So tell me how you or any poster on PSD for that matter have more basketball sense than an NBA coach?

Hawkeye15
11-17-2010, 03:23 PM
Sure you're going to try and argue that with more playing time he would amass more rebounds. WEll, he doesn't get more pt so its pointless in talking about that statistic. It's sad that you think more of Kevin Love than his own coach does.

gee, since he has been playing more this season, he is leading the league in rebounding.
I don't need to argue it. Its a fact at this point.
Please don't act like its been just me saying he needs more playing time over the past 2 seasons. Every analyst, poster, and NBA scout has said the same thing.

And again, do you need me to explain rebound rate? Love has been one of the top 3 rebounders in the NBA since he came in, and is now the best

Giraffes Rule
11-17-2010, 03:28 PM
So tell me how you or any poster on PSD for that matter have more basketball sense than an NBA coach?

:facepalm: Good job misinterpreting my post. Have you seen his minutes? Before the 31-31 game he was playing <30 a night (except for two games I think). He's a great rebounder and post scorer and the past few seasons his coach stuck him on the bench.

drobe86
11-17-2010, 03:37 PM
gee, since he has been playing more this season, he is leading the league in rebounding.
I don't need to argue it. Its a fact at this point.
Please don't act like its been just me saying he needs more playing time over the past 2 seasons. Every analyst, poster, and NBA scout has said the same thing.

And again, do you need me to explain rebound rate? Love has been one of the top 3 rebounders in the NBA since he came in, and is now the best



How are any of the above (posters, analyst, Nba scouts)more qualified assessing Love's talent than his own coach? I understand the rebound rate but I don't buy into that because it automatically assumes if Love got more minutes he would get MORE rebounds. So thats what I would consider a stat that doesn't tell the entire story. Show me total numbers. What is he averaging for his career? 12 and 10 right? That's all that matters. You're spouting off about 18 and 14 that he put together in a grand total of 9 games. Like i said Sig bet me that Love won't average 18 and 14 when the season ends.... That's what I thought

drobe86
11-17-2010, 03:40 PM
:facepalm: Good job misinterpreting my post. Have you seen his minutes? Before the 31-31 game he was playing <30 a night (except for two games I think). He's a great rebounder and post scorer and the past few seasons his coach stuck him on the bench.


Ok but my argument is don't you think his coach knows this? If he were this All Star caliber player I'm sure Kurt Rambis would have him on the floor more. But he doesn't because he knows Love just isn't that good. He's a great rebounder with no offensive game other than putbacks. And defensively he's horrible and gives the same amount if not more or on the other end. Love is a decent player and would make a solid role player on most teams. But seriously guys because if his 2 great games (knicks, lakers) he's not Bill Russell......

Giraffes Rule
11-17-2010, 03:43 PM
How are any of the above (posters, analyst, Nba scouts)more qualified assessing Love's talent than his own coach? I understand the rebound rate but I don't buy into that because it automatically assumes if Love got more minutes he would get MORE rebounds. So thats what I would consider a stat that doesn't tell the entire story. Show me total numbers. What is he averaging for his career? 12 and 10 right? That's all that matters. You're spouting off about 18 and 14 that he put together in a grand total of 9 games. Like i said Sig bet me that Love won't average 18 and 14 when the season ends.... That's what I thought

Look at what he's averaging this year, with ~30 minutes a game. 18.5 PPG and 14.3 rebounds. He leads the league. It's not hypothetical.

bal_ravens
11-17-2010, 03:54 PM
Gotta throw props out to Bill Russell! November 16, 1957, he had 32 rebounds.... at half time!

drobe86
11-17-2010, 04:02 PM
Look at what he's averaging this year, with ~30 minutes a game. 18.5 PPG and 14.3 rebounds. He leads the league. It's not hypothetical.

And you're sample size is a whopping 9 games. You know how dumb that sounds? Sig Bet me that Love doesn't average 18 and 14 when the season is over after a full 82....