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soxnfins
11-10-2010, 07:43 PM
The A’s acquired David DeJesus from the Royals for right-hander Vin Mazzaro and left-hander Justin Marks, the teams announced today.

Nice deal for the A's, assuming DD recovers to full health.

Twins Fan 7
11-10-2010, 07:45 PM
The Kansas City Royals announced today that the club has acquired right-handed pitcher Vin Mazzaro and left-handed pitcher Justin Marks from the Oakland Athletics in exchange for outfielder David DeJesus. Mazzaro replaces DeJesus on the Major League roster while Marks has been assigned to the Wilmington (A Advanced) roster.

“This deal allows us to further increase our pitching depth at the Major and minor league levels,” Royals’ General Manager Dayton Moore said. “Vin Mazzaro fits into our rotation for next season while Justin Marks is a young left-hander who we see starting 2011 at Wilmington. David DeJesus is a high-class person and has been our most consistent performer, both offensively and defensively, over the past few years. We wish the very best for him in the future.”

The 24-year-old Mazzaro was 6-8 with a 4.27 ERA in 24 appearances, including 18 starts, for the A’s in 2010. In 122.1 innings, the 6-foot-2, 210-pounder allowed 127 hits, 58 earned runs and 50 walks while striking out 79. Opponents hit just .251 against him in his 18 starts, as he compiled 12 quality starts. Mazzaro also pitched in seven games (six starts) for Sacramento (AAA), going 3-1 with a 3.13 ERA, striking out 38 over 37.1 innings. A third-round pick by Oakland out of Rutherford (NJ) High School in 2005, Mazzaro is 10-17 with a 4.72 ERA in 41 Major League games (35 starts) since debuting as a 22-year-old in 2009. He is 5-3 with a 2.64 ERA in 12 appearances (nine starts) in his career against A.L. Central opponents. Mazzaro was named Texas League (AA) Pitcher of the Year in 2008, compiling a 12-3 record and a 1.90 ERA in 22 starts while pitching for Midland.

Marks, 22, spent his first full season of professional baseball in 2010 opening the campaign with the Kane County Cougars (A) before finishing on the mound for the Stockton Ports (A Advanced). The 6-foot-3, 195-pound left-hander was 3-12 with a 4.92 ERA in 20 starts with the Cougars, allowing 109 hits in 109.2 innings and striking out 119 against 41 walks. Following his promotion, he went 3-1 with a 4.58 ERA in five games (four starts) with the Ports. The A’s third-round pick out of the University of Louisville in 2009 as a junior, Marks was named Big East Pitcher of the Year following the 2009 campaign. He was originally selected by the Boston Red Sox in the 37th round of the 2006 Draft out of Owensboro (Ky.) High School.

DeJesus, 30, batted .318 with 23 doubles, five home runs, 37 RBI and 46 runs scored in 91 games for the Royals last season, missing the final two and a half months after requiring surgery on his right thumb following a collision with the wall at Yankee Stadium on July 22. A fourth-round pick of the Royals in 2000, DeJesus is a career .289 hitter since breaking into the Majors in 2003.



Here's an accepted source: http://www.wibw.com/sports/headlines/Royals_Trade_David_DeJesus_For_Vin_Mazzaro_And_Jus tin_Marks_107079789.html

gocubs2118
11-10-2010, 07:51 PM
I think that's a fair trade for both teams.

OneTuzSea
11-10-2010, 07:52 PM
Finally something half interesting happens. :clap:

PatelJ1010
11-10-2010, 07:55 PM
This is a weird trade it doesnt help the A's at all with its POWER OUTAGE and it gives them even another OF position in which they don't need

Gigantes4Life
11-10-2010, 07:55 PM
Dayton Moore you suck.

Twins Fan 7
11-10-2010, 07:55 PM
The Royals actually made a good move. 1 year of Dejesus for probably 4 years of Mazarro.

Gigantes4Life
11-10-2010, 07:57 PM
This is a weird trade it doesnt help the A's at all with its POWER OUTAGE and it gives them even another OF position in which they don't need

How does getting a good outfielder not help the A's?

He's already their best outfielder; all their outfielders sucked last year. Sweeney has the potential, and DeJesus is a good asset to have. Especially considering Mazarro is **** and Marks is meh.

el_primo_nano
11-10-2010, 07:58 PM
Good move for the As.. Still need more pieces to build a hitting team. Their pitching is outstanding, lets see if they get some hitters in the FA market.. I think they will make a run at Texas this year.

papipapsmanny
11-10-2010, 07:59 PM
solid move for the As

Gigantes4Life
11-10-2010, 08:00 PM
The Royals actually made a good move. 1 year of Dejesus for probably 4 years of Mazarro.

Too bad those 4 years of Mazarro will likely result in him being released before that due to being not very good.

The_Mac22
11-10-2010, 08:00 PM
Wow good move for the A's.

Mell413
11-10-2010, 08:01 PM
Billy Beane does it again. Nice move for the A's. Actually it's probably a good move for both, but I think it favors the A's more.

Edit: Just took a look at Mazzaro's peripherals so it's not as good of a trade for the Royals as I thought.

ritz
11-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Can't wait to see "Royals sign Jeff Francoeur"

Cheezombie
11-10-2010, 08:09 PM
Yay! Outfielders!

Twins Fan 7
11-10-2010, 08:12 PM
Too bad those 4 years of Mazarro will likely result in him being released before that due to being not very good.

Still better than 1 year of Dejesus IMO. The Royals can't really attract pitchers unless they overpay like Meche. It's a decent trade that helps them.

I really don't see why the A's need Dejesus.

Dyna-sty
11-10-2010, 08:17 PM
So, I'm gonna say 85 % chance that the A's get Iwawura(wrong?) to sign. Nice deal for the A's, but they need power now.

Cheezombie
11-10-2010, 08:25 PM
So, I'm gonna say 85 % chance that the A's get Iwawura(wrong?) to sign. Nice deal for the A's, but they need power now.

Iwakuma

Cheezombie
11-10-2010, 08:26 PM
Still better than 1 year of Dejesus IMO. The Royals can't really attract pitchers unless they overpay like Meche. It's a decent trade that helps them.

I really don't see why the A's need Dejesus.

Dejesus has an option year after 2011.

zambo4president
11-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Great move for the A's he makes alotta sense for them.

jd25213
11-10-2010, 08:46 PM
Too bad those 4 years of Mazarro will likely result in him being released before that due to being not very good.

Thats the Royals for you

Lincecum4CY
11-10-2010, 09:00 PM
Wasn't Mizzaro considered one of the a's future big 3?

royalswine
11-10-2010, 09:06 PM
DD probably a guy that gives Beane some room to trade to a contender at the all-star break. If not he holds onto him, lets him walk and gets draft picks for him. Mazzaro has some upside, but pitchers coming from larger parks normally put up decent numbers.

goldenstater
11-10-2010, 09:16 PM
Billy Beane does it again. Nice move for the A's. Actually it's probably a good move for both, but I think it favors the A's more.

Edit: Just took a look at Mazzaro's peripherals so it's not as good of a trade for the Royals as I thought.

More like beane does right for the first time in awhile. He actually didn't trade a top talent for a good player that he will flip for prospects at the first sign of Oakland falling out of contention. They got money to spend too there should be no reason Oakland can't compete for a playoff birth next year. Good move.

koldjerky
11-10-2010, 09:17 PM
Can't wait to see "Royals sign Jeff Francoeur"

They already did that with Jose Guillen. :pity:


Still better than 1 year of Dejesus IMO. The Royals can't really attract pitchers unless they overpay like Meche. It's a decent trade that helps them.

I really don't see why the A's need Dejesus.

The Royals probably could have gotten more for Dejesus from another team or even by waiting until the deadline unless they just didn't think he was going to stay healthy.

PS. I just looked up Marks stats and I must say I've never seen an ERA quite like he had at the Rookie level in 2009. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Justin-Marks.shtml

RTL
11-10-2010, 09:24 PM
I think this is a good move by both teams. DeJesus' stock took a hit with that thumb surgery but that the Royals got Mazzaro and Marks is a decent return for them. Mazzaro and Marks are two young arms that need to work on command but Mazzaro can at least contribute right away.

TheRuckus
11-10-2010, 09:24 PM
Mazzaro sucks. A's win.

RTL
11-10-2010, 09:28 PM
Dejesus has an option year after 2011.

No he doesn't.

Kinsm
11-10-2010, 10:01 PM
Dejesus has an option year after 2011.

Since when?

Hunter48MVP
11-10-2010, 10:12 PM
Good move for the Royals. Royals got a steal

behindmydesk
11-10-2010, 10:27 PM
No he doesn't.


Since when?

David DeJesus lf-rf
5 years/$13.8M (2006-2010), plus 2011 club option
5 years/$13.8M (2006-10), plus 2011 club option
signed extension with Kansas City 3/06
06:$0.5M, 07:$2M, 08:$2.5M, 09:$3.6M, 10:$4.7M, 11:$6M club option ($0.5M buyout)
if DeJesus does not qualify for arbitration as a Super 2 after 2006, the contract value is reduced to $11.95M (06:$0.5M, 07:$0.6M, 08:$2.3M, 09:$3.45M, 10:$4.6M, 11:$6M / $0.5M buyout)
Kansas City exercised $6M club option for 2010 10/2/10
1 year/$0.32M (2005)
renewed by Kansas City 3/05
drafted by Kansas City 2000 (4-104)
$0.245M signing bonus
agent: Dan Horwits
ML service: 5.146


From Cotts

RTL
11-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Yes and 2011 is next year. He has no more options hence one year of DeJesus.

LakersA's49ers
11-10-2010, 10:45 PM
Mazzaro is garbage DeJesus fits BBs image so nice deal

catman
11-10-2010, 10:50 PM
I like this move for the Royals. They get a couple of nice young arms for a guy that they really don't need anymore. DeJesus should play well for the A's, so its a win-win.

Lincecum4CY
11-10-2010, 10:51 PM
Dejesus has an option year after 2011.

his option was for this year, it got picked up.

Melo15
11-10-2010, 11:02 PM
Definately a fan of this move for the A's.

mark1125
11-10-2010, 11:50 PM
Look at Vin Man's numbers a little closer. They are not that good. Not sure about the other kid the get, but good deal for A's IMO.

Gigantes4Life
11-10-2010, 11:52 PM
Still better than 1 year of Dejesus IMO. The Royals can't really attract pitchers unless they overpay like Meche. It's a decent trade that helps them.

I really don't see why the A's need Dejesus.

I didn't say he should stay with KC. They should have gotten more.

Why wouldn't the A's need him? Good players are assets, and the A's are close to competing.


Mazzaro sucks. A's win.

Moore is suckier.

Cheezombie
11-11-2010, 12:04 AM
his option was for this year, it got picked up.

My mistake

Swishalicious
11-11-2010, 12:59 AM
Congrats to the A's, I like Dejesus, I think he will be a solid player for you guys

CityofTreez
11-11-2010, 01:16 AM
I like this trade for Oakland

dodgersuck
11-11-2010, 01:17 AM
wow Dayton Moore fails again

momoneyyyy
11-11-2010, 01:50 AM
i dont know much about dejesus but looks like its a good move for the A's therefore im happy

Giants-49ers-Ws
11-11-2010, 02:10 AM
solid pickup for athletics..now they need power

Ron!n
11-11-2010, 11:20 AM
Why do you guys assume the A's wont be able to re-sign DeJesus?

Its a solid pickup for them.

koldjerky
11-11-2010, 11:22 AM
Why do you guys assume the A's wont be able to re-sign DeJesus?

Its a solid pickup for them.

He's probably going to be used as a trade piece at the deadline.

MooseWithFleas
11-11-2010, 11:44 AM
I wonder who gets pushed from the A's starting OF

MooseWithFleas
11-11-2010, 11:45 AM
He's probably going to be used as a trade piece at the deadline.

This is a possibility. Or they might retain him or keep him and hope he pulls Type B

Germa_Rican
11-11-2010, 12:10 PM
Glad Drayton Moore waited until the end of the Werth/Crawford sweepstakes to deal David of Jesus... wait what?!?!

Cheezombie
11-11-2010, 03:32 PM
He's probably going to be used as a trade piece at the deadline.

Or retain him to try and make the playoffs. Based on Pythagorean Record, the A's were an 85 win team. Now they've added a good OFer to an OF which outside of Coco Crisp was replacement level. The A's also won the bidding for Japanese pitcher Iwakuma to add to the rotation of Anderson, Cahill, Gonzalez, and Braden. And according to A's tweets, Beane isn't done and is looking to add power via FA.

koldjerky
11-11-2010, 03:44 PM
Or retain him to try and make the playoffs. Based on Pythagorean Record, the A's were an 85 win team. Now they've added a good OFer to an OF which outside of Coco Crisp was replacement level. The A's also won the bidding for Japanese pitcher Iwakuma to add to the rotation of Anderson, Cahill, Gonzalez, and Braden. And according to A's tweets, Beane isn't done and is looking to add power via FA.

I don't doubt that at all, but you can almost tell what Beane does sometimes with these unexpected moves. I think he wants to contend but he's being smart that if they don't he has pieces to restock the farm.

ie Holliday, Sheets (I firmly believe that's why he signed him) and now Dejesus. It's really a win/win situation.

ritz
11-11-2010, 03:52 PM
I wonder if Dayton Moore will pick up Omar Minaya. That **** will be like dividing by zero.

Cheezombie
11-11-2010, 03:54 PM
I suppose. But I believe this team is a lot closer than the previous ones.

koldjerky
11-11-2010, 04:06 PM
I agree, I just think Beane has a knack for finding that "just in case" option.

Cheezombie
11-11-2010, 04:10 PM
Also, you said "he's probably going to be used as a trade chip at the deadline" which told me that you believe the most likely scenario is that the A's aren't in contention at the deadline and will be traded.

sacgiants1213
11-11-2010, 05:00 PM
Dayton Moore's next move:

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/10/2417935/royals-notebook-bannister-anderson.html

theslick1
11-11-2010, 05:48 PM
I agree, I just think Beane has a knack for finding that "just in case" option.

Or trying to find that "just in case" option. Ben Sheets was last year's model.

ATL#22
11-11-2010, 06:11 PM
Moore saw that shiny 4.27 ERA and cummed himself

Lloyd Christmas
11-11-2010, 06:47 PM
I actually really like Mazzaro. He has seemed unhittable at times but just hasn't put it all together. Nice trade for the Royals. They obviously weren't going to contend next year so why not trade someone in the last year of his deal for a high upside starter?

I predict Mazzaro to have an ERA under 4.00 and get around 10 wins next year.

Gigantes4Life
11-11-2010, 06:58 PM
Or retain him to try and make the playoffs. Based on Pythagorean Record, the A's were an 85 win team. Now they've added a good OFer to an OF which outside of Coco Crisp was replacement level. The A's also won the bidding for Japanese pitcher Iwakuma to add to the rotation of Anderson, Cahill, Gonzalez, and Braden. And according to A's tweets, Beane isn't done and is looking to add power via FA.

Yeah, the A's would definitely be my darkhorse next year. If the Rangers lose Lee those odds increase a lot.

CityofTreez
11-12-2010, 01:18 AM
Or retain him to try and make the playoffs. Based on Pythagorean Record, the A's were an 85 win team. Now they've added a good OFer to an OF which outside of Coco Crisp was replacement level. The A's also won the bidding for Japanese pitcher Iwakuma to add to the rotation of Anderson, Cahill, Gonzalez, and Braden. And according to A's tweets, Beane isn't done and is looking to add power via FA.

I can see Oakland prove many doubters wrong next year. Their impressive young staff, and some off-season pickups could do the trick. Their pitchers had some terrible run-support, and some hitters will help them out.

D-Amazins
11-12-2010, 01:46 AM
can't wait to see "royals sign jeff francoeur"

this. :d

theslick1
11-12-2010, 02:48 AM
I can see Oakland prove many doubters wrong next year. Their impressive young staff, and some off-season pickups could do the trick. Their pitchers had some terrible run-support, and some hitters will help them out.

Unless they find some hitters, the doubters will be right.

Cheezombie
11-12-2010, 03:21 AM
Unless they find some hitters, the doubters will be right.

Tell that to the Giants.

Gigantes4Life
11-12-2010, 04:10 AM
Tell that to the Giants.

Doubters still think they're right :laugh2:

Kinsm
11-12-2010, 01:03 PM
David DeJesus lf-rf
5 years/$13.8M (2006-2010), plus 2011 club option
5 years/$13.8M (2006-10), plus 2011 club option
signed extension with Kansas City 3/06
06:$0.5M, 07:$2M, 08:$2.5M, 09:$3.6M, 10:$4.7M, 11:$6M club option ($0.5M buyout)
if DeJesus does not qualify for arbitration as a Super 2 after 2006, the contract value is reduced to $11.95M (06:$0.5M, 07:$0.6M, 08:$2.3M, 09:$3.45M, 10:$4.6M, 11:$6M / $0.5M buyout)
Kansas City exercised $6M club option for 2010 10/2/10
1 year/$0.32M (2005)
renewed by Kansas City 3/05
drafted by Kansas City 2000 (4-104)
$0.245M signing bonus
agent: Dan Horwits
ML service: 5.146


From Cotts

So he has no option after '11 like we said.

CityofTreez
11-12-2010, 01:20 PM
Unless they find some hitters, the doubters will be right.

I think Cris Carter will improve after last years debacle.

Carter, DeJesus, and Sweeney are a good OF trio, but they must find a replacement for the infamous Jack Cust!

theslick1
11-12-2010, 02:49 PM
Tell that to the Giants.

The A's are a lot like the Giants (good pitching/not much offense). The Giants found their bats in Posey, Burrell, Ross, and Huff, which isn't murderers row but it was enough to get the job done.

ritz
11-12-2010, 03:09 PM
Doubters still think they're right :laugh2:

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/529676/haters_gonna_hate.gif

Cheezombie
11-12-2010, 04:34 PM
I think Cris Carter will improve after last years debacle.

Carter, DeJesus, and Sweeney are a good OF trio, but they must find a replacement for the infamous Jack Cust!

Forgot Coco Crisp

CityofTreez
11-12-2010, 04:38 PM
Forgot Coco Crisp

I also forgot Raji Davis, but who cares? :D

Some good OF options in Oakland this year.

Cheezombie
11-12-2010, 04:51 PM
Yeah I don't really factor Davis into the OF picture. He's a pinch runner.

CityofTreez
11-12-2010, 04:57 PM
Yeah I don't really factor Davis into the OF picture. He's a pinch runner.

Raji Davis didn't have that bad of a year to label him just a "pinch-runner".

Cheezombie
11-12-2010, 05:05 PM
1.2 WAR. Nothing great. I don't want him out there.

Gigantes4Life
11-12-2010, 05:43 PM
I'll trade you Rowand for Davis back.

Cheezombie
11-12-2010, 06:20 PM
Nah thanks, he appears to be in serious decline. Line drive rate going down every year, plate discipline disappearing. Defense going due to age. Plus he's rather expensive. Rather save money and go for someone else.

Gigantes4Life
11-12-2010, 09:34 PM
Nah thanks, he appears to be in serious decline. Line drive rate going down every year, plate discipline disappearing. Defense going due to age. Plus he's rather expensive. Rather save money and go for someone else.

I hope you don't think I was serious. I just hate the fact that we signed Rowand when Davis was there.

Cheezombie
11-12-2010, 09:58 PM
Yeah I know.

Webslinger
11-14-2010, 12:18 PM
This seems like an awful trade for the A's.

Matchstckman
11-14-2010, 12:25 PM
There's a lot of unbridled Vin Mazzaro hate in this thread.

CityofTreez
11-14-2010, 06:36 PM
There's a lot of unbridled Vin Mazzaro hate in this thread.

I've noticed this.

This Oakland Athletics starting rotation could do w/out him. Anderson, Cahill, Gonzalez, Braden, and Outman's coming back from Tommy-John.

The hate towards Vin is ridiculous.

Cheezombie
11-14-2010, 08:19 PM
Well, he's just not a very good pitcher. And it seems as if people are forgetting about Iwakuma likely joining the rotation.

CityofTreez
11-14-2010, 08:25 PM
Well, he's just not a very good pitcher. And it seems as if people are forgetting about Iwakuma likely joining the rotation.

He showed flashes of being a good pitcher. Not 100% sure, but 2-3 years ago, he pitched 2-3 games w/out allowing a run until he faced Tim Lincecum and the Giants in an Interleague series.

Cheezombie
11-14-2010, 08:34 PM
That's because he was helped with an exceptionally low BABIP. He was lucky.

Gigantes4Life
11-14-2010, 09:24 PM
Yeah Mazzaro had no real future in Oakland, and probably doesn't have much of one in KC.

Jilly Bohnson
11-14-2010, 09:39 PM
Yeah Mazzaro had no real future in Oakland, and probably doesn't have much of one in KC.

He's keeping Mike Montgomery's seat warm

Cheezombie
11-14-2010, 10:32 PM
Actually I think he'll start for KC, mostly because their rotation isn't exactly deep.

RTL
11-15-2010, 12:07 AM
Of course he will start. He automatically makes the Royals rotation that much better and deeper.

Gigantes4Life
11-15-2010, 12:51 AM
Actually I think he'll start for KC, mostly because their rotation isn't exactly deep.

Yeah, it's kind of awful outside of Greinke.

DC82
11-16-2010, 05:39 AM
Vin Mazzaro is a decent prospect, but no way would he make a roster spot with all the quality depth that Oakland has. Oakland has so much depth at pitcher that other guys better than Mazzaro won't make the 25 man roster.