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hotpotato1092
11-04-2010, 06:55 PM
Here are the rules:

1. Any team that played from the 1999-2000 season on is fair game (wahh wahh I know that's more than a decade, but it's close enough).

2. A franchise can appear more than once, but it must have a different nucleus.

3. Seeding is subjective so the #1 seeds aren't going to take it in everyone's mind.

4. Injuries don't matter, all of these teams are at full strength.

5. Fatigue and match ups do matter, this is an actual playoff bracket, imagine this is actually being played out.

6. Home court advantage matters, see #5.

7. All series, including round one, are seven games.

8. Timing matters. Don't just look at rosters, remember how hungry the Celtics were in 2007-2008, remember when the Kobe-Shaq feud actually began, things like that count.

And so here is the bracket:

West:

#1 2000-2001 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #8 2003-2004 Minnesota Timberwolves

#2 2004-2005 San Antonio Spurs vs. #7 1999-2000 Portland Trailblazers

#3 2009-2010 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #6 2005-2006 Dallas Mavericks

#4 2001-2002 Sacramento Kings vs. #5 2004-2005 Phoenix Suns

East:

#1 2007-2008 Boston Celtics vs. #8 2002-2003 New Jersey Nets

#2 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons vs. #7 2000-2001 Philadelphia 76ers

#3 2005-2006 Miami Heat vs. #6 2008-2009 Orlando Magic

#4 2010-2011 Miami Heat vs. #5 2008-2009 Cleveland Cavaliers

Who takes it and why? I'm putting mine in the next post (sorry if it ends up as a double post).

geraptor
11-04-2010, 07:11 PM
1999-2000 that is a very short decade:p

hotpotato1092
11-04-2010, 07:33 PM
Round One:

East:

#1 Celtics over #8 Nets in 5. I just don't see how the Nets could score on Boston, especially with Rondo smothering Kidd (even in his second year he was a fantastic defender). Nets steal one at home, but can't top a hungry Celtics team that still hasn't won a ring.

#2 Pistons over #7 76ers in 5. I really wanted to put the current Heat at #7 just so I could have a big upset (seed wise) but didn't feel like the barrage I was gonna get. Anyway, we've heard this story before, the ultimate team triumphs over the one man AI show. Iverson has a big game four to stave off the sweep, but they are no match for the balanced Pistons.

#6 Magic over #3 Heat in 7. This one was brutal for me, a just exiting his prime Shaq vs a just entering his prime Dwight, Orlando's shooters vs. Miami's penetrators. Man this would be a fun series to watch. It was a few things that swung it for me. First of all, Wade got once in a lifetime treatment from the refs in the 2006 finals, that'd obviously change here. Second, I just don't see how Miami stops the Rashard Lewis/Hedo Turkoglu barrage. Finally, I just don't see an answer for Jameer Nelson. A very tough series, but the Magic take it in 7 on Miami's home floor.

#4 Heat over #5 Cavs in 4. The LeBron's cancel out, so I'll take Wade, Bosh et all handily against Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao and the rest of these Cavs.

West:

#1 Lakers over #8 Timberwolves in 4. Too much Kobe, too much Shaq, Lakers take this one easily.

#2 Spurs over #7 Trail Blazers in 6. I just have a feeling the Blazers could extend this one, they were crazy deep, played defense, and came closer to beating the Lakers than the Spurs did during the threepeat. Also remember Portland's awesome homecourt advantage, they'd take one if not two at home. Spurs win it, but it's closer than it first appears.

#3 Lakers over #6 Mavericks in 7. This one is a brutal, an actual NBA champ vs. a should be NBA champ. The Mavericks can extend this one because the Lakers have no answer for quick point guards (remember how Rondo blasted them in the finals?) and the Mavs have two: Terry and Harris. This is also one of the deeper Mavs teams of the decade, and they'd have tons of fouls to throw at Pau/Bynum (Diop, Van Horn, Dampier, even Mbenga if necessary). Overall I think these are all very high scoring, but Kobe takes it on his home floor in game 7.

#4 Kings over #5 Suns in 6. This has to be the most exciting series in sports history right? Two of the best offensive teams I can remember that always kept it interesting because the offense never got stagnant, they never became 1 on 5. Overall I think the Kings awesome homecourt advantage and superior defense wins them the series, but man this one would be fun.

Round two:

East: #1 Celtics over #4 Heat in 6. Maybe the 2012-2013 Heat could beat these Celtics, but not the current version. These Celtics are just too hungry, too healthy, and too deep. Their defense was just too good for any team to consistently score on, let alone one with so little experience together. The Celtics take this one in my mind

#2 Pistons over #6 Magic in 7. I really considered giving the Magic this one because they, like the Pistons, were a true team and had several players who could beat you, but also had the true superstar in Dwight. But then I remembered just how good defensively Ben Wallace was and thought how could superman score here? Coupled with Detroit's homecourt advantage and Orlando's exhausting 7 game series with Miami in the previous round, I think the magic would just be physically and emotionally drained. The Pistons squeak this one out in 7.

West:

#1 Lakers over #4 Kings in 6. This Lakers team was deeper and better than the one that beat Sacramento in 2002, albeit with the help of the refs. I think this Laker team is good enough to handle the Kings on their own, but Cwebb would at least put up a fight.

#3 Lakers over #2 Spurs in 6. The tricky thing about the Spurs is that no one Spurs team really stands out, so I uncomfortably picked the 2004-2005 version which was honestly flawed. These Lakers may be as good as the threepeat version, I really just can't see the Spurs beating them, especially after the one time we saw a similar match up (similar, not the same) in 2008 the Lakers won in 5. I gotta give it to them here in 6.

Conference Finals:

#1 Celtics over #2 Pistons in 5. The Pistons are just outpistoned in this series. They play the same styles, but are just outclassed in every way. I really just see no way that the Pistons can keep up here.

#1 Lakers over #3 Lakers in 6. Yes you read that correctly, the Lakers are playing the Lakers. I just think Kobe and Shaq at their apex was too unstoppable. I don't think we'll ever see another champ quite like this one, the two best players in the league by far at their absolute apex with the perfect players to complement them running amok on the league. The one argument you could make is that 2010 Phil may have a strategy against 2001 Phil and his Kobe/Shaq combo, but I just don't think the older Kobe and his teammates, no matter how good they are, could stop Kobe and Shaq.

NBA Finals:

#1 Lakers over #1 Celtics in 7. It would take every minute of those 7 games, but the Lakers squeeze this one out. Here's my reasoning in bullet point form:
- The Kobe/Shaq feud had just started, but when the playoffs came they went out of their way to put it aside to win, their chemistry was at an all time high.
- The 2001 playoffs was the best all around basketball Kobe has every played. He was a menace on both sides of the floor. He was athletic enough to lock down 2008 Ray Allen while still acting as the leader of the Laker offense. People forget just how good he was then because... Well... he is still so damn good now.
- Early 2000's Shaq was the most dominant big man ever. If Tim Duncan in his prime couldn't stop him, I don't think KG could (although he'd give a valiant effort).
- Rajon Rondo wasn't Rajon Rondo yet. The combo of a young Derek Fisher and a veteran Ron Harper would have made him very uncomfortable.
- By this point Phil Jackson was coaching in his 8th finals, Doc Rivers was in his first deep playoff run, I'll take Phil.

It's a VERY close series, could go either way, but as many of you know my theory is to take the team with the best player when a series is this close, and in this case the Lakers have the best two. That's how I see this bracket playing out.

Vincent33
11-04-2010, 07:35 PM
West:

#1 2000-2001 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #8 2003-2004 Minnesota Timberwolves
LA wins in 5

#2 2004-2005 San Antonio Spurs vs. #7 1999-2000 Portland Trailblazers
Spurs win in 6

#3 2009-2010 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #6 2005-2006 Dallas Mavericks
Lakers win in 7

#4 2001-2002 Sacramento Kings vs. #5 2004-2005 Phoenix Suns
Kings win in 7

East:

#1 2007-2008 Boston Celtics vs. #8 2002-2003 New Jersey Nets
Celtics win in 6

#2 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons vs. #7 2000-2001 Philadelphia 76ers
Pistons win in 5

#3 2005-2006 Miami Heat vs. #6 2008-2009 Orlando Magic
Heat win in 6

#4 2010-2011 Miami Heat vs. #5 2008-2009 Cleveland Cavaliers
Heat win in 5

West Semifinals
#1 2000-2001 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #4 2001-2002 Sacramento Kings
Lakers win in 6

#2 2004-2005 San Antonio Spurs vs. #3 2009-2010 Los Angeles Lakers
Spurs win in 7


East Semifinals
#1 2007-2008 Boston Celtics vs. #4 2010-2011 Miami Heat
Celtics win in 7

#2 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons vs. #3 2005-2006 Miami Heat
Pistons win in 5


West Conference Finals
#1 2000-2001 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #2 2004-2005 San Antonio Spurs
Lakers win in 6

East Conference Finals
#1 2007-2008 Boston Celtics vs. #2 2003-2004 Detroit Pistons
Celtics win in 7

Finals
#1 2000-2001 Los Angeles Lakers vs. #1 2007-2008 Boston Celtics
Lakers win in 7


No upsets from me. I think the 00-01 Lakers were the best team of the decade and they are pushed to the distance by the Celtics but are able to hold them off.

Rafer17
11-04-2010, 10:05 PM
2007-2008 Boston Celtics Win it all

mvb815
11-04-2010, 10:31 PM
03-04 lakers didn't win but they were stacked

i'd definitely put them into consideration for best team of the decade

DreamShaker
11-04-2010, 10:51 PM
03-04 lakers didn't win but they were stacked

i'd definitely put them into consideration for best team of the decade

They didn't have the chemistry the championship teams had. They folded against an inferior Pistons team.

TboneM3
11-04-2010, 10:51 PM
Lakers have won 5 rings in the last 10 years and have visited the finals 7 out of the 10. They are easily the best team of the last 10 years; they're the best of the last 40 years. You can obviously color me biased, but numbers don't lie.

Hellcrooner
11-04-2010, 11:18 PM
sorry but i digress.

Current team is BETter than first threepeat lakers.


Shaq was better than Pau but 10 KObe is MUCH better and 1000000times more mature than 00 spoiled brat fisher is much more savy Now than he was in 00.

and of course Odom, rtst, Bynum all of them are better than the third best player on 00 team.

conway429
11-04-2010, 11:31 PM
sorry but i digress.

Current team is BETter than first threepeat lakers.


Shaq was better than Pau but 10 KObe is MUCH better and 1000000times more mature than 00 spoiled brat fisher is much more savy Now than he was in 00.

and of course Odom, rtst, Bynum all of them are better than the third best player on 00 team.

^ Glen Rice was pretty dam good...
And I'd take the 2000 Lakers cause Shaq was one of the most dominant players of all-time at this point. Shaq wins it single-handed. He would embarrass Gasol/Bynum, and Kobe was still putting up points at this time.

_KB24_
11-04-2010, 11:55 PM
The 00's Lakers are still in my mind the most dominant and lethal team ever assembled. No on in history could match up with this team in a 7 game series. Their is no answer for a young Kobe entering his prime and the most dominant player this league has ever seen. The team was LOADED with great role players. Shaw, Harper, Horry, Fisher, Foxy, Rice and Horace were all great for this team.

I'm excited to see this year's Lakers though. Don't think they will be as dominant as the team back then, but they can certainly be the second best team of the past 12 years.

Hellcrooner
11-05-2010, 02:14 AM
^ Glen Rice was pretty dam good...
And I'd take the 2000 Lakers cause Shaq was one of the most dominant players of all-time at this point. Shaq wins it single-handed. He would embarrass Gasol/Bynum, and Kobe was still putting up points at this time.

Rice was washed up at that point of time.

And btw Shaq didnt embarras Pau a single time since he joined in 2001, so .....

Nets fan 93
11-05-2010, 02:30 AM
10-11 Heat?
They have only played 5 games so far... and will only play 34 more for the rest of the decade. 2011 is a new decade man.
:facepalm:

edit: didnt see the rules... but still the fact they have only played 5 games so far....

kArSoN RyDaH
11-05-2010, 02:35 AM
i think this years lakers team has a chance to outmatch any team ever assembled like they said above me. if we win this year, and continue to dominate in the regular season, this team will go down as a top 5 team in nba history.


but right now the 2000 lakers are unbeatable.

conway429
11-05-2010, 02:47 AM
Rice was washed up at that point of time.

And btw Shaq didnt embarras Pau a single time since he joined in 2001, so .....

Man, Shaq was embarrassing everyone back then. We get that you love Pau, but give respect to '00 Shaq. I absolutely hate the Lakers, but even I'll admit he was/they were unstoppable at that time. Don't make me go through game logs, cause I'll guarantee there's at least one game where Memphis couldn't stop him.
And Glen Rice was still pretty good when he was with the Lakers. Obviously not like he was in Charlotte, but he was still putting up points as the 3rd option.

michael811
11-05-2010, 10:12 AM
Shaq would get his but with Gasol and Bynum in at the same time that would leave Horry on either Gasol or Bynum depending on who Shaq took defensively that is a huge mismatch and Gasol has shown he can guard perimeter players when he took rashard lewis in the 09 finals. Artest takes younger Kobe and slows him down somewhat. That leaves Kobe to shutdown Glenn Rice. Harper vs Fisher ill call a wash. With Odom coming off the bench
I like last years Lakers to win in 7

hotpotato1092
11-05-2010, 11:16 AM
10-11 Heat?
They have only played 5 games so far... and will only play 34 more for the rest of the decade. 2011 is a new decade man.
:facepalm:

edit: didnt see the rules... but still the fact they have only played 5 games so far....

I thought about it, and realistically, I just think they'd out talent any of the teams they're above. I hate to say it but I think it's true. Also, if we're having an ultimate playoff, shouldn't this team be involved in some way?