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House
11-01-2010, 10:03 PM
Still learning this whole TM thing.

It looks like Matt Hasselbeck is expected to play the game vs NY Giants.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/01/matt-hasselbeck-is-expected-to-play-despite-concussion/

Hopefully they're wrong about Red Bryant. I hope he can return this year.

http://www.seahawkaddicts.com/2010-articles/november/red-bryant-to-ir.html




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New York Giants (5-2) @ Seattle Seahawks (4-3)

Location:Qwest Field

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Time: 1:05 PT Sunday, November 7th TV: FOX

QB Comparison
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Matt Hasselbeck Eli Manning

70.7 QB Rating 88.3
1408 Yards 1785
6 Touchdowns 14
7 Interceptions 11

RB Comparison
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Justin Forsett Ahmad Bradshaw

334 Yards 708
75 Carries 134
4.5 YardsPerCarry 5.3
1 Touchdowns 3

WR/TE Comparison
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Mike Williams Hakeem Nicks

375 Yards 525
33 Catches 45
11.4 YardsPerCatch 11.7
1 Touchdowns 8


Defensive Leaders
Tackles Sacks Interceptions
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Lawyer Milloy Chris Clemons Earl Thomas
40 5.5 4

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Antrel Rolle Osi Umenyiora Terrell Thomas
43 8.0 2


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furmat60
11-01-2010, 11:34 PM
I can't wait for this game!

bruser23
11-01-2010, 11:37 PM
Still learning this whole TM thing.


House, if you need a sick game thread I got one ready to go. I can just PM you the URL

House
11-02-2010, 12:21 AM
house, if you need a sick game thread i got one ready to go. I can just pm you the url

sweet!!!

Seattle King
11-02-2010, 12:37 AM
After watching the Raiders dominate the hawks o-line I don't see how Seattle wins this one. But you never know. Crazier things have happened.

FWBrodie
11-02-2010, 04:02 AM
Eli Manning will **** the bed on Sunday and make a continuous whiny face the whole time he does it... print it.

KnicksFan1024
11-02-2010, 04:21 AM
Eli Manning will **** the bed on Sunday and make a continuous whiny face the whole time he does it... print it.

Eli always looks like he has a "whiny face"... it doesn't matter if we're up 5 touchdowns or down 5 touchdowns. But he's a leader and the hardest working player on the team (maybe in the league, other than his brother)...

Good luck on sunday though fellas :D

Baller1
11-02-2010, 11:15 AM
Here's where my optimism fails to show itself. I think we lose, and it could possibly be really ugly.

Sluggo
11-02-2010, 11:23 AM
If the O-line plays like last week you Whitehurst fans may get your wish...

Thebudler
11-02-2010, 12:44 PM
I have a bad feeling about this one! All depends if our O-line shows up. If they don't I fear for Hasselbeck's life!

Captain Planet
11-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Hasselbeck is gonna get knocked out for the year in this game...were going down

furmat60
11-02-2010, 03:40 PM
Hasselbeck is gonna get knocked out for the year in this game...were going down

Don't be so negative man. ****.

drew_ellis_23
11-02-2010, 04:59 PM
I think it will be a good game. I think Matt will get knocked out as well and we will see some Charlie and this will be a close low scoring game. The guys got a kick in the *** last week so we will be ready.

thehands816
11-02-2010, 05:21 PM
I think it'll be tough to win this game, but I have faith in my team. They got a wake up call last week and they'll be ready to com"Pete". It's unfortunate that the injury bug is biting us again, but let's hope some guys step up their game and make the most out of their opportunities. Furthermore, consider this: most people consider the Giants to be the best team in the NFC. If we beat them, we both end up at 5-3 and we can say we beat them.

NateyB24
11-02-2010, 07:14 PM
I think it will be a good game. I think Matt will get knocked out as well and we will see some Charlie and this will be a close low scoring game. The guys got a kick in the *** last week so we will be ready.

If Hasselbeck can't do it and then Whitehurst steps in i doubt it will be a close scoring game im not on the Charlie bandwagon if that happens theyre going to blow us out heck they could still blow us out even with Hasselbeck at QB. I hope im wrong though and the offensive line shows up to play and we can pull of a close one but the Giants are more talented.

furmat60
11-02-2010, 08:36 PM
I'm not on the Charlie bandwagon either, but the fact of the matter is we haven't seen him play with the starters. For all we know, he could be the next Hasselbeck when he took over for Dilfer. I don't want him to come in against the Giants. I'd rather have Matt play, but if it comes down to him having to come in, then he comes in and gives it his best.

Boozerguy47
11-03-2010, 04:54 AM
Hate to say it, but after our display last weekend and our injuries, it will be extremely difficult to pull this one out.

Our O-Line needs hold down the trenches for Matt. Hopefully we can get pressure on Eli and force a couple of turnovers. We have to win the turnover battle in order to have a chance.

SEAbeliever
11-03-2010, 08:01 AM
We got beat up last weekend. A home game will bring the monsters out in us. 12th Man knows a thing or two about messing with the G-Men. Let's hope the Hawks figure out that you need to throw a lot of screens to the playmakers to negate the heavy pass rush. Just get the ball in someone's hands besides Hasselbeck.

Already being concussed with 8 sacks last week, he needs to get rid of the ball NOW if we are going to enjoy the top spot in the West fellas.

SEAbeliever
11-03-2010, 08:11 AM
Just some quick notes on Tuesday

http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/11/02/tuesday-in-hawkville-37/

A good assessment. It would seem their starting C is out. :D This is good for the Hawks' DEF. And the 12th Man.

Seattle King
11-03-2010, 10:48 AM
Starting Center being out or not, this game will be very hard to win. We need turnovers, big plays, and the receivers to catch some damn balls.

NateyB24
11-03-2010, 03:28 PM
Heard Tate might not play and thats why we signed Ruvell.

furmat60
11-03-2010, 04:08 PM
Heard Tate might not play and thats why we signed Ruvell.

Link?

House
11-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Hasselbeck didn't practice today... Hopes are he will play this Sunday, but Charlie is taking 1st team snaps... Check out some of the comments in the bottom of the article. Interesting notes made.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-seahawks-hasselbeck

House
11-03-2010, 05:21 PM
Interesting analysis for the game...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/preview?gid=20101107026

furmat60
11-03-2010, 06:16 PM
Good articles! I can't wait for this game! We WILL NOT lose at home to them!

NateyB24
11-03-2010, 06:48 PM
Link?

Sorry i usally don't have a source right away because i get it off of Pete Carolls conferences on the radio but here it is:


Rookie wide receiver Golden Tate is doubtful to play Sunday due to his sprained ankle, Carroll said. Mike Williams also won't practice Wednesday to rest a bruised thigh, but is expected to be ready by Sunday.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/227118.asp

furmat60
11-03-2010, 06:58 PM
Sorry i usally don't have a source right away because i get it off of Pete Carolls conferences on the radio but here it is:



http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/227118.asp

Sweet, thanks man.

We have a metric **** ton of injuries going into the game Sunday.........

plastikman
11-03-2010, 09:31 PM
Although I truely believe we will have a hard time winning this game, I will still be there screaming my head off, I hope the Qwest crowd can get to Eli one more time!

Yendil
11-03-2010, 09:56 PM
This could be a close game. The Giants suck here and blame it on their made up story about fake noise instead of realizing they get rattle and suck. Then I look at our O-Line, who can't even block a fart right now. Im projecting we see Jesus by the second quarter.

Captain Planet
11-03-2010, 11:19 PM
who can't even block a fart right now.



ahahahahahha:moon:

Baller1
11-04-2010, 03:04 AM
We're going to get destroyed this weekend. I don't see any way we don't...

Captain Planet
11-04-2010, 03:51 AM
Sooo I got an Extra ticket to the game on sunday.....hint hint

Boozerguy47
11-04-2010, 05:44 AM
We're going to get destroyed this weekend. I don't see any way we don't...

Special teams, fumble recoveries and INTs... We need at least two of the three to go our way...

I won't rule out the W till I see how the game starts off, but we are definitely looking uphill right now.

FWBrodie
11-04-2010, 12:18 PM
The last time the Giants won in Seattle? 1981.

Don't forget how big of an advantage the 12th man is, especially with a QB that is easily rattled like Eli's ***** ***. The Giants are dead.

furmat60
11-04-2010, 01:28 PM
The last time the Giants won in Seattle? 1981.

Don't forget how big of an advantage the 12th man is, especially with a QB that is easily rattled like Eli's ***** ***. The Giants are dead.

Agreed.

We are probably the best home team in the NFL right now. At the same time though, we need to get our **** together. We have lost blowout games to the Raiders and the Rams. Not taking away from them, they look a lot better this year. I'm just saying that we have enough talent on this team, we should have won those games. No way the Giants win at Qwest this Sunday. No way in ****ing hell.

yankeeswin27
11-04-2010, 01:50 PM
The last time the Giants won in Seattle? 1981.

Don't forget how big of an advantage the 12th man is, especially with a QB that is easily rattled like Eli's ***** ***. The Giants are dead.



:laugh::laugh:

House
11-04-2010, 03:13 PM
Interesting stats in regards to Eli Manning's turnovers. We need to steal the ball from him!!!

http://m.seahawks.com/8183/show/7a80711e4e91f2a734fedb10d60f94b3&t=383b67ee7f3d124125a7eb04942b3a15

GGGGG-Men
11-04-2010, 03:46 PM
Bummer:


Ralph Vacchiano TheBlueScreen Wow. ... RT @dannyoneil: Update from #Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck OUT for Sunday's game.."



Interesting stats in regards to Eli Manning's turnovers. We need to steal the ball from him!!!

http://m.seahawks.com/8183/show/7a80711e4e91f2a734fedb10d60f94b3&t=383b67ee7f3d124125a7eb04942b3a15

Worst part of that is that I think 7 of the 11 INTs were tipped off WRs....he's getting no love.

Captain Planet
11-04-2010, 03:58 PM
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/11/4/1794170/matt-hasselbeck-out-versus-giants

Yup Hass is out. Here come all the Whitehurst lovers

FWBrodie
11-04-2010, 04:26 PM
Hope BMW is ready to run. Its bombs away baby. The deep ball has arrived in the Seahawk offense.

Sluggo
11-04-2010, 04:32 PM
I don't think we win this one, 60% of the starting O-line is out 75% of the starting D-line and our starting QB. We might make it close with turnovers but (I hope I'm wrong) I don't think we pull it off.

House
11-04-2010, 04:38 PM
Bummer:






Worst part of that is that I think 7 of the 11 INTs were tipped off WRs....he's getting no love.

That is kinda crappy. I think there should be a different way to track that as a stat. Especially in Fantasy Football. (I started Jon Kitna as my BYE week QB and I got screwed big time, three of his INTs were tipped/dropped balls by his WRs.

House
11-04-2010, 04:44 PM
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/11/4/1794170/matt-hasselbeck-out-versus-giants

yup hass is out. Here come all the whitehurst lovers

boo-yah!!!

bruser23
11-04-2010, 04:54 PM
Solid move by Pete, even if Matt could go. He's already banged up, give Charlie a chance, While Matt rests his head, if Charlie plays well maybe he fights Matt next week.

Captain Planet
11-04-2010, 05:43 PM
Rooting for Charlie now, Time to get behind him!!

bruser23
11-04-2010, 05:47 PM
I just realized out of every teams fans on PSD, I dislike the NY fans the most (Giants or Jets) -- I can stand the 49er fans because they're just sad people. But, There is just something very irritating about the giants fans, that is getting me heated.

djbaseball21
11-04-2010, 06:11 PM
I just realized, out of all the fans on here, I don't think the NY fans the most (Giants or Jets) I can stand the 49er fans because their just sad. There's something very irritating about Giants fans, that's getting me heated.

What?...

bruser23
11-04-2010, 06:12 PM
What?...

Wow proof reading fail!

Boozerguy47
11-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Time to shine Charlie!

It won't happen, but how about Mike Willilams - 9 recs, 164 yards and 2 tds (one TD being 40 yards +)... It's been a long time since we've had a WR go for at least 150 yards, while averaging at least 15 per catch.

furmat60
11-04-2010, 08:01 PM
Raiders fans are way worse.

A.Mopp
11-04-2010, 08:58 PM
im excited to see Charlie play!

Seattle4Ever
11-04-2010, 09:05 PM
^ You can't even imagine how excited I am. What if he just sucks nuts out there? Lol.

House
11-04-2010, 09:14 PM
We'll see...

furmat60
11-04-2010, 10:27 PM
We'll see...

He's mobile and has a big arm. This is his first regular season game, and he's starting nonetheless. It's gonna be interesting, and this is the most exciting game (except for the home opener) for me up to this point!

MattColby
11-04-2010, 10:46 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if he's just a complete beast?

furmat60
11-04-2010, 11:23 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if he's just a complete beast?

**** yeah it would! My uncle said he was hoping Matt would start, that way the Giants could just beat the **** out of him lol. He thinks Matt has lost it all.

House
11-04-2010, 11:36 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if he's just a complete beast?

That's the hope and the reason they brought him in... I'm hoping he brings a spark to the team...

If he shines, we have something to talk about. Maybe he just needs to get that first start under his belt to prove his worth.

If he sucks, then all the doubters still can't knock him because he's playing the NY Giants aKa "The QB Killers".

He has needed a shot and now he's getting it. Hopefully for him and the well-being of the Seahawks, he shines...

hawks4life
11-05-2010, 12:29 AM
Does anyone have an up-to-date injury report? God, I hope the Seahawks win. My brother is a giants fan and he is a very annoying fan when his team wins. Come On Hawks!

House
11-05-2010, 12:47 AM
Here is the practice one. The OFFICIAL list probably won't be released until Saturday.

http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/11/04/thursday-in-hawkville-33/

SEAbeliever
11-05-2010, 02:03 AM
The 12th Man will provide the sparks needed this SUN...

The best thing one can do when it's raining is to let it rain. ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Cholly, make it rain big ol fat rain... :D

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/christohavens/Christophers%20Stuff/buddy_jesus.jpg

House
11-05-2010, 02:06 AM
NY Giants starting C will miss the game. You know how many potential false starts and fumbles that alone could cause? I LOVE IT!!!

FWBrodie
11-05-2010, 03:28 AM
NY Giants starting C will miss the game. You know how many potential false starts and fumbles that alone could cause? I LOVE IT!!!

Jackpot.

Baller1
11-05-2010, 03:38 AM
NY Giants starting C will miss the game. You know how many potential false starts and fumbles that alone could cause? I LOVE IT!!!

That's great news. Hopefully his lack of focus can cause a chain reaction that causes the rest of the line to become flustered.

FWBrodie
11-05-2010, 03:40 AM
A new center can really throw off the rythm of the whole offense.

Baller1
11-05-2010, 03:41 AM
Yeah, that was my thought process. Hopefully it comes true.

KnicksFan1024
11-05-2010, 04:37 AM
A new center can really throw off the rythm of the whole offense.

Actually, our backup center has started more games this season than our starting center because Shaun O'hara's been banged up all year.

djbaseball21
11-05-2010, 12:12 PM
Wow proof reading fail!

Haha, no worries bro.

GGGGG-Men
11-05-2010, 01:25 PM
NY Giants starting C will miss the game. You know how many potential false starts and fumbles that alone could cause? I LOVE IT!!!


A new center can really throw off the rythm of the whole offense.

Not to piss on this, but O'Hara's backup Koets has played a few games this year with O'hara's other injuries and even started most of camp and preseason. He's been solid....not the veteran O'Hara is, but solid nonetheless.

Still, on a quiet day in NY we get delay of game and false start calls, b/c it seems to take 30 seconds for the play call to get to the huddle.....I think our offensive coordinator actually uses carrier pigeons to send in the play. So, I'm sure you guys will get some.

By the way, I saw on the Seahawks site that you guys have 99 opposing team false starts since 2005....which means the first one committed by the Giants will be....


100

I'm sure it will be announced at the stadium and I'm sure it will get the crowd twice as loud as it was.

House
11-05-2010, 01:53 PM
Not to piss on this, but O'Hara's backup Koets has played a few games this year with O'hara's other injuries and even started most of camp and preseason. He's been solid....not the veteran O'Hara is, but solid nonetheless.

Still, on a quiet day in NY we get delay of game and false start calls, b/c it seems to take 30 seconds for the play call to get to the huddle.....I think our offensive coordinator actually uses carrier pigeons to send in the play. So, I'm sure you guys will get some.

By the way, I saw on the Seahawks site that you guys have 99 opposing team false starts since 2005....which means the first one committed by the Giants will be....


100

I'm sure it will be announced at the stadium and I'm sure it will get the crowd twice as loud as it was.

I knew O'Hara has been out, I think what I forgot to mention is Koets has NEVER played at Qwest Field.

You're a pretty good dude! I appreciate the fact that you support your team, but your realistic enough to know there will be false starts. Some people are like "That won't happen to us... BLAH BLAH BLAH"

Good luck again on Sunday. I'd appreciate it if your boys didn't try to kill any of my Seahawks too!

GGGGG-Men
11-05-2010, 02:44 PM
I knew O'Hara has been out, I think what I forgot to mention is Koets has NEVER played at Qwest Field.

You're a pretty good dude! I appreciate the fact that you support your team, but your realistic enough to know there will be false starts. Some people are like "That won't happen to us... BLAH BLAH BLAH"

Good luck again on Sunday. I'd appreciate it if your boys didn't try to kill any of my Seahawks too!

False starts happen every game. To not expect one at Qwest (or minnesota or KC or.....) is just silly. I DEFINITELY don't expect to see 11 of them again though! haha

Whoever designed that stadium is a genius. You take an already loud crowd and build what looks like a frickin' amphitheater....facing another amphitheater. My buddy is from SEA and he says on game day the sound just travels and echoes through the city.

Good luck to you guys too! Our D-line are savages....they're gonna be hungry for a newbie QB. I'd expect a lot of quick 2 step drops from Whitehurst to beat it. The short quick pass west coast offense is the best counter for a strong pass rush. Should be fun to watch the coaching battle.

SEAbeliever
11-05-2010, 03:15 PM
False starts happen every game. To not expect one at Qwest (or minnesota or KC or.....) is just silly. I DEFINITELY don't expect to see 11 of them again though! haha

Whoever designed that stadium is a genius. You take an already loud crowd and build what looks like a frickin' amphitheater....facing another amphitheater. My buddy is from SEA and he says on game day the sound just travels and echoes through the city.

Good luck to you guys too! Our D-line are savages....they're gonna be hungry for a newbie QB. I'd expect a lot of quick 2 step drops from Whitehurst to beat it. The short quick pass west coast offense is the best counter for a strong pass rush. Should be fun to watch the coaching battle.

I think you are the year's best opposing fan on the forum so far...

Thank you for actually thinking and posting something that shows you are a fan of the game as well as your team...

It should make for some interesting football this weekend.

GO SEAHAWKS!

furmat60
11-05-2010, 04:18 PM
I think you are the year's best opposing fan on the forum so far...

Thank you for actually thinking and posting something that shows you are a fan of the game as well as your team...

It should make for some interesting football this weekend.

GO SEAHAWKS!

Agreed. You're decent man. Good luck this weekend.....but as for tomorrow, I will be on the 50 yard line of the TCU-Utah game this weekend!

FWBrodie
11-05-2010, 04:26 PM
The Seahawks are +2 in TO margin and the Giants are -5.

Also the Seahawks are +8 at home and the Giants are -5 on the road.

GGGGG-Men
11-05-2010, 04:59 PM
I think you are the year's best opposing fan on the forum so far...

Thank you for actually thinking and posting something that shows you are a fan of the game as well as your team...

It should make for some interesting football this weekend.

GO SEAHAWKS!


Agreed. You're decent man. Good luck this weekend.....but as for tomorrow, I will be on the 50 yard line of the TCU-Utah game this weekend!

Ha, thanks!


The Seahawks are +2 in TO margin and the Giants are -5.

Also the Seahawks are +8 at home and the Giants are -5 on the road.

:sigh: There's been way too much sloppiness in our offense. Tipped balls from receivers and the occasional Bradshaw fumble. Our D usually keeps us alive though.

furmat60
11-05-2010, 08:07 PM
Ha, thanks!



:sigh: There's been way too much sloppiness in our offense. Tipped balls from receivers and the occasional Bradshaw fumble. Our D usually keeps us alive though.

Not opposing other QB's though lol.

House
11-06-2010, 08:30 PM
Moves today: Zac Robinson and Breno Giacomini were signed to active roster. Newly signed Ruvell Martin and Chris Center were released to make room for them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20101107_always_busy_seahawks_have_some_more_moves _to_make

FWBrodie
11-06-2010, 11:11 PM
So with Tate out this week Leon Washington is going to be returning kicks AND punts. The Seahawks currently lead the NFL in kickoff return average at a ridiculous 31.5 yards. The Giants are dead last in that category (17.5). The Hawks are 7th in punt return average (11.9), but Leon Washington is averaging 27 yards per punt return. He really is a great return man. By the way, the Giants are second to last in punt return average (5.9 HAHAHAHA).

Leon was running pretty well late in the Oakland game too. He may get a few carries to see if he can build on that.

I'm calling a Leon Washington TD tomorrow. Print it.

Seattle4Ever
11-06-2010, 11:35 PM
^ Golden Tate makes me nervous now when he is returning punts. I hope Leon gets some more carries too.

GGGGG-Men
11-07-2010, 12:14 AM
So with Tate out this week Leon Washington is going to be returning kicks AND punts. The Seahawks currently lead the NFL in kickoff return average at a ridiculous 31.5 yards. The Giants are dead last in that category (17.5). The Hawks are 7th in punt return average (11.9), but Leon Washington is averaging 27 yards per punt return. He really is a great return man. By the way, the Giants are second to last in punt return average (5.9 HAHAHAHA).

Leon was running pretty well late in the Oakland game too. He may get a few carries to see if he can build on that.

I'm calling a Leon Washington TD tomorrow. Print it.

:speechless: We have the WORST special teams unit. Our coverage guys are absolutely terrible this year....so....this scares me. Just take a look at the Dez Bryant return on us 2 weeks ago....THAT's our STs unit. Crap.


Anyway, I came on here to ask a silly question. The NY beat writers are all saying how its supposed to rain tomorrow in Seattle and do the stupid yuck yuck "wow, rain in Seattle? who'd a thought" hardy har har....

My g/f and I have looked into moving to Seattle for 6 years now and everything Ive read says while its actually cloudy a lot in Seattle, the rainfall isn't all that much more than other northwest/northeast states. True/false?

Yendil
11-07-2010, 02:14 AM
true, it is cloudy a bunch with rain generally overnight, but it will rain here during the late Fall and winter. Summers are nice, fall is nice, spring it will piss on you for like 2 weeks straight

furmat60
11-07-2010, 02:51 AM
^ That pretty much sums it up lol.

chonbon
11-07-2010, 11:14 AM
hey seaMEN, as much as i hate the giants, i hope you lose today so we can be in first....


jk GOOD LUCK

House
11-07-2010, 11:40 AM
hey seaMEN, as much as i hate the giants, i hope you lose today so we can be in first....


jk GOOD LUCK

HAHAHA...

The whole "I'm not rooting AGAINST you, I'm INDIRECTLY rooting FOR me". I get it! LOL

Thanks

MattColby
11-07-2010, 12:37 PM
Can't wait for game time. I hope we have a QB controversy after todays game.

furmat60
11-07-2010, 12:57 PM
Can't wait for game time. I hope we have a QB controversy after todays game.

Me too. I hope Charlies just shines.

Seattle4Ever
11-07-2010, 01:03 PM
^ I'm thinking he goes 2 TDs and 2 INTs.

House
11-07-2010, 01:26 PM
^ I'm thinking he goes 2 TDs and 2 INTs.

I hope a "W" is up there too!

Baller1
11-07-2010, 01:33 PM
It's Cholly time!

GGGGG-Men
11-07-2010, 02:02 PM
true, it is cloudy a bunch with rain generally overnight, but it will rain here during the late Fall and winter. Summers are nice, fall is nice, spring it will piss on you for like 2 weeks straight

4 years in San Diego.....1 year in L.A.......I miss rain.....a lot


Good luck today guys!

FWBrodie
11-07-2010, 02:20 PM
As long as this game isn't a complete disaster I'll be happy. I want to see things Charlie can build on. I really do believe the Hawks can win this game though.

furmat60
11-07-2010, 02:51 PM
As long as this game isn't a complete disaster I'll be happy. I want to see things Charlie can build on. I really do believe the Hawks can win this game though.

Agreed. We're rebuilding, and we've already exceeded expectations. I'll be happy.

furmat60
11-07-2010, 02:58 PM
The Chargers woes continue as they have yet ANOTHER punt blocked.

NateyB24
11-07-2010, 03:01 PM
Well i hope Charlie does well or atleast does enough to let our Defense or special teams win us the game i want to go into Arizona with the lead.

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 05:30 PM
TD Bradshaw. 7-0 Giants, 1Q, 5:49

bruser23
11-07-2010, 05:31 PM
I feel like we need a little encouragement.

Lets go Charlie!

GGGGG-Men
11-07-2010, 05:36 PM
Caroll still making college play calls? why do that on 3rd and 1 with Lynch? I'll take it but.....odd call.

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Charlie needs to calm the hell down!

ccg34
11-07-2010, 05:38 PM
Caroll still making college play calls? why do that on 3rd and 1 with Lynch? I'll take it but.....odd call.

It wasn't a bad call. The wr was open but Charlie just didn't deliver the pass accurately.

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 05:39 PM
Siavii's been in on a few plays now. Kid looks good.

bruser23
11-07-2010, 05:41 PM
Good call. Thomas needs to know better.

Hakeem nicks is a beast, I wanted us to draft him.

again I say, Thomas needs to know better.

Ian.
11-07-2010, 05:41 PM
:laugh:

This team blows ***. Embarrassing.

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 05:44 PM
TD Nicks. 14-0, Giants. 1Q, 2:26

bruser23
11-07-2010, 05:44 PM
And that sucks. Leon needs to hold onto that, the ball wasn't touched.

A.Mopp
11-07-2010, 05:45 PM
:pity: ugh this is disgusting

Ian.
11-07-2010, 05:45 PM
:laugh2:

Yep. **** this game. I'm not subjecting myself to this ******** two weeks in a row. I'd rather not have my Sunday ruined again.

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 05:45 PM
TD Bradshaw. 21-0, Giants. 1Q, 2:03

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:46 PM
Seattle.....REALLY!!! REALLY!!! I mean i didnt expect to win this game....but come on!!! well....Good game Giants. See ya next year.

A.Mopp
11-07-2010, 05:46 PM
:laugh2:

Yep. **** this game. I'm not subjecting myself to this ******** two weeks in a row. I'd rather not have my Sunday ruined again.

yeah im going to go do something else

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:47 PM
:laugh2:

Yep. **** this game. I'm not subjecting myself to this ******** two weeks in a row. I'd rather not have my Sunday ruined again.

:speechless: I know my wife is tired of me being so pissed off and screaming on sundays.

ccg34
11-07-2010, 05:47 PM
Let's just let our injured players rest and get ready for the Cards next week.

GGGGG-Men
11-07-2010, 05:48 PM
ouch.....


It wasn't a bad call. The wr was open but Charlie just didn't deliver the pass accurately.

still, with one yard to pick up, I like a more conservative call


Siavii's been in on a few plays now. Kid looks good.

:nod:

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:48 PM
He best answer for that fumble~~ good return...bought damn time we make some kinda play

bruser23
11-07-2010, 05:48 PM
Well, that's a little better Leon.

I'm not going to turn off the game, just because I don't have much better to do, and I want to see if Charlie can turn his game around.

Ian.
11-07-2010, 05:48 PM
I'm gonna go shopping for clothes. That's how disgusted I am.

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:50 PM
Giants just got Beast moded on that run!!

ccg34
11-07-2010, 05:50 PM
Beast Mode is nasty. If we are going to lose let Nicks kill us so I can atleast win my fantasy matchup.

House
11-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Charlie is obviously nerouvs. Looked a little better on the past drive. Don't
know if he overthrew Baker or Baker gave up.

Good return by Leon after his last one was fumbled.

BEASTMODE moving those feet!

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Beast Mode is nasty. If we are going to lose let Nicks kill us so I can atleast win my fantasy matchup.

ahaha Bradshaw got me some good points so far!:D

bruser23
11-07-2010, 05:55 PM
24 got his hands around early IMO, but he made a nice play to keep it alive.

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:55 PM
Williams should be credited with that interception...not charlie...that was BS...he did that near the endzone last week against the raiders...pathetic!

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 05:55 PM
that one wasn't on charlie. it was a good route, good throw, bad execution on behalf of the wr. what a shame.

Ian.
11-07-2010, 05:56 PM
:yawn:

House
11-07-2010, 05:57 PM
DAMN DAMN DAMN!!! We aren't even trying to help Charlie.

Destined for failure for sure!

ccg34
11-07-2010, 05:58 PM
If we get down by 28 pts, I would consider taking out Tatupu, and Trufant.

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:59 PM
Draft a WR anybody? we need a big deep threat play maker! butler is unreliable and williams wtf

bruser23
11-07-2010, 05:59 PM
I think offensive PI should be a loss of down.

In that light every call that is an auto first down it's opposite should be a loss of down.

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 05:59 PM
Trufant is getting burned!!!

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:04 PM
ok...soooo now I am gonna go stick my **** in a meat grinder

House
11-07-2010, 06:06 PM
Wow... I know a lot of people said we were going to lose, but DAMN! Is there a MERCY rule?

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:08 PM
well, now we should just concede the loss and let the rookies play lol

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:09 PM
butler.....wtf

bruser23
11-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Butler looks like he's playing his little heart out

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:10 PM
bout damn time Butler

bruser23
11-07-2010, 06:15 PM
JESUS WHITEHURST, That is one hell of an arm.
It's too bad, he's not placing it in the right spots.

roshan3ai
11-07-2010, 06:15 PM
Eli Manning will **** the bed on Sunday and make a continuous whiny face the whole time he does it... print it.

Spot on

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:15 PM
guess our questions have been answered about whitehurst

House
11-07-2010, 06:15 PM
WTF? Good pass/catch to Mike. Looked like Charlie tried to JAM that pass into Mike

House
11-07-2010, 06:16 PM
guess our questions have been answered about whitehurst

He's trying. 28-0 ain't helping his cause!

bruser23
11-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Like I said he's got one heck of a arm, I'd like to see him play next week.

If he could have put that ball toward the sideline that would have been an easy catch and turn.

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:20 PM
is it just me or are the Giants fans the only opponent to not be *******s to the Seahawks fans

House
11-07-2010, 06:20 PM
Like I said he's got one heck of a arm, I'd like to see him play next week.

If he could have put that ball toward the sideline that would have been an easy catch and turn.

Agreed. It looked like BMW slipped a bit, but it still should've been further out.

House
11-07-2010, 06:22 PM
is it just me or are the Giants fans the only opponent to not be *******s to the Seahawks fans

They've all been pretty good dudes!

I have a lot more respect for GIANTS fans in contrast to 49ers or Raiders fans!

The NY Giants are the best team in the NFC!!!

ccg34
11-07-2010, 06:25 PM
Hopefully next week we can get back Mebane, Okung, Polumbus, Cole, and Hasselbeck. The good news is the Cards lost.

Ian.
11-07-2010, 06:26 PM
I'd worry more about the 49ers than Cards

bruser23
11-07-2010, 06:29 PM
Not Earl...

Captain Planet
11-07-2010, 06:30 PM
oh no...not Earl Thomas.....Mercy new york...Mercy!!

bruser23
11-07-2010, 06:34 PM
That's a good hold IMO

NateyB24
11-07-2010, 06:39 PM
Umm Why is Sean Locklear on the team? Can we please put Andrews at RT when Okung comes back.

bruser23
11-07-2010, 07:00 PM
Icing.

DuckHawk
11-07-2010, 07:07 PM
The Seahawks don't even look in the same league. I know they are rebuilding but how embarrassing. I know, stay positive, stay positive, stay positive..................

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 07:09 PM
2 tds? I've never made a "sig bet" before, but... I'll take this one. If the Seahawks lose they will not lose by more than 14 points. Sig must be kept until after your respective teams next game.

how do you feel about that?

uh oh. what did you do.

NateyB24
11-07-2010, 07:13 PM
The Seahawks don't even look in the same league. I know they are rebuilding but how embarrassing. I know, stay positive, stay positive, stay positive..................

This is why i hate winning and getting a lower draft pick we will probaly get blown out in the playoffs and then have a higher pick id rather draft my future qb now.

bruser23
11-07-2010, 07:14 PM
Eh, that's okay, he never responded, at all.

Plus, Giants are just killing it. All respect given.

DuckHawk
11-07-2010, 07:19 PM
I wonder if the Giants would take our whole draft and Whitehurst for Manning and Nicks. Oh wait, this isn't fantasy football.

House
11-07-2010, 07:22 PM
This is why i hate winning and getting a lower draft pick we will probaly get blown out in the playoffs and then have a higher pick id rather draft my future qb now.

MY POINT EXACTLY! EVERYONE on the Hasselbeck train cause "He's the best option to win the division." Ok, then what?

This is exactly the main reason I want Charlie out there. I want to see what he has and if he CAN be our future. If not, then we KNOW that. We KNOW nothing with him on the bench. Keeping Matt in is giving people a FALSE hope!

DuckHawk
11-07-2010, 07:26 PM
You know, this is one of those types of games that you end up with stupid injuries.

DuckHawk
11-07-2010, 07:29 PM
Now the announcers are comparing this game to a college team trying for a higher BCS score like Oregon beating New Mexico 72 - 0.

House
11-07-2010, 07:29 PM
You know, this is one of those types of games that you end up with stupid injuries.

Hakeem Nicks just dinged up his ankle. NY SHOULD be smart and take their high profile guys out. I'd never hope for anyone to get hurt regardless of team, but keeping their main guys out there is ridiculous!

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 07:30 PM
You know, this is one of those types of games that you end up with stupid injuries.

tell me about it. first webster; then deihl; now nicks. i don't know what the giants are thinking of, but, they're not thinking of player longevity.

this will do us no good down the road.

House
11-07-2010, 07:34 PM
TOUCHDOWN Charlie!!! I need to see some more before we pass judgement on him!

House
11-07-2010, 07:39 PM
Good news for Nicks, it's nothing.

Koets is hurt now...

musclemenace
11-07-2010, 07:40 PM
add koets to that list. they just don't seem to get it.

bruser23
11-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Hmm, Kam looks good for the most part today.

Thebudler
11-07-2010, 07:42 PM
I hope all the morons that think Whitehurst gives the Hawks the best chance to win will wake up! Effing disgusting! Missed wide open receivers and made horrible decisions! I left the game at effing halftime! Disgrace!!!!!!

bruser23
11-07-2010, 07:44 PM
I hope all the morons that think Whitehurst gives the Hawks the best chance to win will wake up! Effing disgusting! Missed wide open receivers and made horrible decisions! I left the game at effing halftime! Disgrace!!!!!!

It's okay, a fairweather fan wouldn't understand why Whitehurst would be a good option to play.

NateyB24
11-07-2010, 07:57 PM
I hope all the morons that think Whitehurst gives the Hawks the best chance to win will wake up! Effing disgusting! Missed wide open receivers and made horrible decisions! I left the game at effing halftime! Disgrace!!!!!!

Yea Whitehurst didn't do enough he played well but im 100% confident Matt plays next game.

Baller1
11-07-2010, 07:58 PM
Yeah Seahawks! Wooooo!

Great game today, time to throw in the white flag. I'm embarrassed.

Thebudler
11-07-2010, 07:59 PM
EFFFF YOU! I AM NOT A FAIRWEATHER FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a honest fan. I almost got into two fights with Giants fans who were mouthing off. Why should I waste my time? If the Hawks arent going to try, I am not going to sit in my seat and defend them when they are getting beat in every aspect of the game. This was the one time I was embarrased to be Hawks fan!!!!!! No effort!

chonbon
11-07-2010, 07:59 PM
u guys, its not on tv, whats happening... (not baiting)

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 07:59 PM
Who cares, Our offensive line is poop. Charlie didnt lose us the game. ****ing Manning couldnt win with this group. Our WR are average and our line is crap.

House
11-07-2010, 07:59 PM
I hope all the morons that think Whitehurst gives the Hawks the best chance to win will wake up! Effing disgusting! Missed wide open receivers and made horrible decisions! I left the game at effing halftime! Disgrace!!!!!!

Dear President of the Matt Hasselbeck Fan Club,

How would Matt have done today? Down 28-0, I think it'd look a lot like last week in OAK. One INT was Charlie's placement (Matt's done that as well), the other was all on BMW. Can't put the whole blame for today's loss on Charlie. Did Charlie face one of the most fierce DEF's today with a makeshift o-line? Yes sir he did...

How did Matt look in his Seahawks debut? Did you hate Matt then, like you hate Charlie?

Sincerly,
One of those MORONS who wanted to see what Charlie had!

House
11-07-2010, 08:02 PM
u guys, its not on tv, whats happening... (not baiting)

We got wrecked... Nothing went right today! Don't even know where to begin... Too many things to list!

Thebudler
11-07-2010, 08:02 PM
Did the cardinals think they were going to the superbowl with a declining Kurt Warner at QB???? Number one goal is to get to the post season. You never know what will happen once you are in! A team can catch fire and easily win. AN EDUCATED FAN (not like Bruser23) would know that!

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 08:02 PM
it's okay, a fairweather fan wouldn't understand why whitehurst would be a good option to play.

lol

chonbon
11-07-2010, 08:04 PM
We got wrecked... Nothing went right today! Don't even know where to begin... Too many things to list!

was it like us vs detroit? where we had clayton get hurt and then everyone just got raped in every aspect of the game, and nothing went right including reffing?

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 08:05 PM
Did the cardinals think they were going to the superbowl with a declining Kurt Warner at QB???? Number one goal is to get to the post season. You never know what will happen once you are in! A team can catch fire and easily win. AN EDUCATED FAN (not like Bruser23) would know that!

Our team isnt half as good as that Cardinal team was. We are in rebuild mode and clearly last two weeks were a reminder. We need to let Charlie finish out the season and hopefully lose out and get a solid first rounder to get another solid OL with

Thebudler
11-07-2010, 08:08 PM
Dude, be real, Whitehurst wasn't accurate all day! He missed wide open guys and threw behind receivers. He showed me NOTHING that makes me think he can be an NFL QB. This isn't like it's his rookie season! The guy has been in the leage for five years!!!!! I wasn't expecting him to win the game for the Hawks, but to hit wide open receivers on third down to maintain drives is what Hasselbeck does! It wouldn't have been 28-0 at that point.

House
11-07-2010, 08:14 PM
was it like us vs detroit? where we had clayton get hurt and then everyone just got raped in every aspect of the game, and nothing went right including reffing?

YUP... We went 3/out our first 3 possessions. Leon Washington fumbled a kickoff return folling their score and then they scored 3 plays later. Charlie never had a chance! Pass in the endzone was in BMW's hands and then that turned into an INT. Stupid penalities on both sides of the ball and yeah... We GOT SMASHED!

When it rains, it pours!!!

chonbon
11-07-2010, 08:15 PM
YUP... We went 3/out our first 3 possessions. Leon Washington fumbled a kickoff return folling their score and then they scored 3 plays later. Charlie never had a chance! Pass in the endzone was in BMW's hands and then that turned into an INT. Stupid penalities on both sides of the ball and yeah... We GOT SMASHED!

When it rains, it pours!!!

i hear you dude, i wanted you to lose(not like this), but it blows because we've been through that... sorry all, good luck next week

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 08:17 PM
Dude, be real, Whitehurst wasn't accurate all day! He missed wide open guys and threw behind receivers. He showed me NOTHING that makes me think he can be an NFL QB. This isn't like it's his rookie season! The guy has been in the leage for five years!!!!! I wasn't expecting him to win the game for the Hawks, but to hit wide open receivers on third down to maintain drives is what Hasselbeck does! It wouldn't have been 28-0 at that point.

Do you want to go 8 and 8 make the playoffs and get knoicked out in the first round then see Matt go bye bye next season and Whitehurst start next year and we suck and draft a QB? Or do you want to let Charlie get comfortable (as this is the first game he has ever started and it was against a great defense) see what we got and hope he can get familiar with the WR's and use our draft picks on what we need, Offensive lineman? Charlie has to get comfortable with the WR's and the WR's need to get familiar with Whitehurst. You dont just look down the field and throw a ball to a still target. NFL is a fast game and the guys he were throwing to even if open were on the move and if you arent familiar with each other then even a throw that looks easy isnt easy. You want to bail on him after one game then you are the moron.

bruser23
11-07-2010, 08:21 PM
Dude, be real, Whitehurst wasn't accurate all day! He missed wide open guys and threw behind receivers. He showed me NOTHING that makes me think he can be an NFL QB. This isn't like it's his rookie season! The guy has been in the leage for five years!!!!! I wasn't expecting him to win the game for the Hawks, but to hit wide open receivers on third down to maintain drives is what Hasselbeck does! It wouldn't have been 28-0 at that point.

First I'm going to ignore your shot at me, purely because I didn't leave my team because they were losing, I sat threw and endured the pain.

An educated fan would know, Charlie Whitehurst has never started an NFL game, and had never passed the ball in an NFL game. He threw two picks. One was a tip ball, that BMW should have caught. The other was bad placement.
What does Charlie give us? A rocket arm. Also Decision making, I didn't see one sack that was taken because he couldn't decide where to throw it. He wasn't afraid to throw the ball away. Fight, he never stopped pushing. Charlie made the O-line look better, he was not sacked once.
Yes he was inaccurate. He was late sometimes, But he was down 21-0 in the first quarter. He had no rushing help.

I would be happy if Charlie started next week. I would be happy if Matt starts. I think they both have upsides, but I know playing Charlie is a higher risk/reward than Matt.

House
11-07-2010, 08:21 PM
Dude, be real, Whitehurst wasn't accurate all day! He missed wide open guys and threw behind receivers. He showed me NOTHING that makes me think he can be an NFL QB. This isn't like it's his rookie season! The guy has been in the leage for five years!!!!! I wasn't expecting him to win the game for the Hawks, but to hit wide open receivers on third down to maintain drives is what Hasselbeck does! It wouldn't have been 28-0 at that point.

I am being real... WE, (The Seahawks), not just Charlie struggled ALL game. The BMW TD turned INT was Charlie's fault right? Leon's fumbled return, Charlie's fault as well right? You get real... Troy Aikman commentated the game and he said it himself, "My first game was horrible, we didn't even score."

Not saying Charlie played GREAT, he made some mistakes, but was he supposed to be PERFECT his debut? To put everything on him for the loss is IGNORANT and YOU are showing YOUR IGNORANCE...

I bet you became a fan the year we went to the Super Bowl, right?

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 08:29 PM
I am being real... WE, (The Seahawks), not just Charlie struggled ALL game. The BMW TD turned INT was Charlie's fault right? Leon's fumbled return, Charlie's fault as well right? You get real... Troy Aikman commentated the game and he said it himself, "My first game was horrible, we didn't even score."

Not saying Charlie played GREAT, he made some mistakes, but was he supposed to be PERFECT his debut? To put everything on him for the loss is IGNORANT and YOU are showing YOUR IGNORANCE...

I bet you became a fan the year we went to the Super Bowl, right?

:clap:

The fact he didnt take a sack should say it all. He has better pressure awareness and mobility in the pocket. I was pleased with what I saw of him. I recorded the game so I could look over it as well and see anything I may have missed. He looked pretty good. Couple bad throws that were just a part of the game and him not being on the same page as his WR's. Matt has the same problems. Young WR's, and a crap line spells trouble. Next year we will have Charlie as our starter with 10 starts of experience from this season hopefully, maybe VJ will be here as a FA signing along with a vetran OL, and the guy we will draft along with a healthy Okung hopefully, and our two headed monster of a running attack. We just need to let Chalie get his feet wet.

krisxsong
11-07-2010, 08:56 PM
It doesn't matter if he doesn't get sacked if he hurries his throw with pressure in his face all day.

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 09:10 PM
It doesn't matter if he doesn't get sacked if he hurries his throw with pressure in his face all day.

It does. Rather have a incomplete pass then a loss and a QB taking the hit. Matt gets sacked all the time

furmat60
11-07-2010, 09:13 PM
First I'm going to ignore your shot at me, purely because I didn't leave my team because they were losing, I sat threw and endured the pain.

An educated fan would know, Charlie Whitehurst has never started an NFL game, and had never passed the ball in an NFL game. He threw two picks. One was a tip ball, that BMW should have caught. The other was bad placement.
What does Charlie give us? A rocket arm. Also Decision making, I didn't see one sack that was taken because he couldn't decide where to throw it. He wasn't afraid to throw the ball away. Fight, he never stopped pushing. Charlie made the O-line look better, he was not sacked once.
Yes he was inaccurate. He was late sometimes, But he was down 21-0 in the first quarter. He had no rushing help.

I would be happy if Charlie started next week. I would be happy if Matt starts. I think they both have upsides, but I know playing Charlie is a higher risk/reward than Matt.

All of this. This is exactly how I feel. I'm a huge Matt fan, but Charlie showed some abilities that Matt doesn't have anymore. He has a HUGE arm, and is really mobile. Going against that Giants defense, and he didn't get sacked. I would like to see him start next week. Hopefully Carroll sees the positives in Charlies play tonight and he gets to play next week.

House
11-07-2010, 09:16 PM
On another note, although Eli picked on TRU all game, Jennings was GARBAGE like always. Just counting down the days when that scrub is finally gone!

Bye Bye List:
Kelly Jennings
Sean Locklear

furmat60
11-07-2010, 09:20 PM
On another note, although Eli picked on TRU all game, Jennings was GARBAGE like always. Just counting down the days when that scrub is finally gone!

Bye Bye List:
Kelly Jennings
Sean Locklear

Thurmond should start over Jennings. I think one of the sea gals should start for Locklear.

House
11-07-2010, 09:27 PM
Thurmond should start over Jennings. I think one of the sea gals should start for Locklear.

I agree. Hopefully Thurmond takes over soon.

Okung needs to get healthy now! This is what our line SHOULD look like!

LT: Okung
LG: Pitts
C: Spencer
RG: Gibson
RT: Andrews (Yes... He can play RT and he prefers playing RT)

or

LT: Okung
LG: Pitts
C: Spencer
RG: Andrews
RT: Polumbus

I get that we don't want to be moving people around, but Locklear continues to suck and cost us blown assignments/hold penalities. Losing Ray Willis to the IR really sucked!!!

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 10:20 PM
I agree. Hopefully Thurmond takes over soon.

Okung needs to get healthy now! This is what our line SHOULD look like!

LT: Okung
LG: Pitts
C: Spencer
RG: Gibson
RT: Andrews (Yes... He can play RT and he prefers playing RT)

or

LT: Okung
LG: Pitts
C: Spencer
RG: Andrews
RT: Polumbus

I get that we don't want to be moving people around, but Locklear continues to suck and cost us blown assignments/hold penalities. Losing Ray Willis to the IR really sucked!!!


In deed

steelie
11-07-2010, 10:31 PM
I am being real... WE, (The Seahawks), not just Charlie struggled ALL game. The BMW TD turned INT was Charlie's fault right? Leon's fumbled return, Charlie's fault as well right? You get real... Troy Aikman commentated the game and he said it himself, "My first game was horrible, we didn't even score."

Not saying Charlie played GREAT, he made some mistakes, but was he supposed to be PERFECT his debut? To put everything on him for the loss is IGNORANT and YOU are showing YOUR IGNORANCE...

I bet you became a fan the year we went to the Super Bowl, right?

Give your head a shake House. He was plain brutal. The little gadget play where he had a receiver open and he over throws it by 10 yards. I could make that throw and I mean it! You been all over Team Charlie for a while and now your boy got his shot and she ***** the bed. What now? Matt needs to get healthy and ready for the next game because the division is up for grabs. There was a reason why Whitehurst was 3rd in the depth chart in SD.

The experiment is over. Let's chalk this one up to taking a chance on a guy stuck behind a great QB and move on and look for Matt's replacement.

GGGGG-Men
11-07-2010, 11:01 PM
Sorry guys....that was ugly. Still Charlie's 1st start, so maybe he'll turn it around, but with the experience of Hasselbeck you guys need to draft a future star QB and get him learnin' from Matt.

Anyway, good luck the rest of the season. Hope its prettier than today; the fans deserve better.

Seattle King
11-07-2010, 11:22 PM
Man, that was brutal. I hope all those guys saying the Hawks were going to be an 11-12 win team are finally coming to the realization that we aren't THAT good.

Charlie did OK for it being his first start. Yes, he missed some throws that he needs to make in the future but the guy must have been going 100 MPH. He
ll settle down in the future. Hopefully Carroll gives him another shot.

djbaseball21
11-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Whitehurst wasn't as bad as I expected today against the Giants. I mean, he wasn't good by any means, but he wasn't terrible. A lot today was not his fault.

With that said, the dude is 27 or 28 and has only played in one game in the NFL. He is ok and maybe good, but he will never be great. His ceiling is probably the next Hasselbeck. We need to take a QB in the upcoming draft, probably in the first round. You can't really rebuild with a QB in his late 20's with absolutely no experience. Think he got better sitting on the bench for 6 years? I would much rather have someone like Newton or Mallet or some other QB we can realistically get in the draft this year (it wont be luck or locker). I say give Charlie a chance the rest of the year since there is no reason to keep Matt in because we are not going deep in the playoffs anyways, but if Charlie does ok and can start next year, then he can be a mentor to the young qb we draft.

I am all for making the playoffs and want to win the division, but we need to focus on the future. Lets be realistic.

furmat60
11-07-2010, 11:41 PM
^ I agree. Focus on the future, the long term. Charlie may be our answer for QB, I saw we give him the next start. Let him get another full week of practice in with the 1st team offense, and let a lot of the starters get healthy for him. If he doesn't pan out, yeah, we take a QB in the first round. Trade up to get Luck.

drew_ellis_23
11-07-2010, 11:44 PM
Whitehurst wasn't as bad as I expected today against the Giants. I mean, he wasn't good by any means, but he wasn't terrible. A lot today was not his fault.

With that said, the dude is 27 or 28 and has only played in one game in the NFL. He is ok and maybe good, but he will never be great. His ceiling is probably the next Hasselbeck. We need to take a QB in the upcoming draft, probably in the first round. You can't really rebuild with a QB in his late 20's with absolutely no experience. Think he got better sitting on the bench for 6 years? I would much rather have someone like Newton or Mallet or some other QB we can realistically get in the draft this year (it wont be luck or locker). I say give Charlie a chance the rest of the year since there is no reason to keep Matt in because we are not going deep in the playoffs anyways, but if Charlie does ok and can start next year, then he can be a mentor to the young qb we draft.

I am all for making the playoffs and want to win the division, but we need to focus on the future. Lets be realistic.


Take a QB in the first round and he will spend the entire season on his back. Draft linemen and let Charlie have at it for a year, if he sucks next season then you draft a QB. Look at all the good NFL teams. Strong line and run game. It all starts at the line. Our line is **** and Charlie got sacked 0 times. Threw one INT really cause the first one was all BMW. He wasnt great but look at what Matt did his first few starts and he wasnt too shabby. I want to see more. "The divison is up for grabs..........."? I dont want it, I want to develope the young guys and rebuild right. Have you learned nothing from watching the Mariners? This team is not going to win anything now so why start Matt and try and win the division? We just played a playoff team and you saw what happened. Matt would have got sacked 5 times and the score would have been just about as bad.

House
11-08-2010, 12:10 AM
Give your head a shake House. He was plain brutal. The little gadget play where he had a receiver open and he over throws it by 10 yards. I could make that throw and I mean it! You been all over Team Charlie for a while and now your boy got his shot and she ***** the bed. What now? Matt needs to get healthy and ready for the next game because the division is up for grabs. There was a reason why Whitehurst was 3rd in the depth chart in SD.

The experiment is over. Let's chalk this one up to taking a chance on a guy stuck behind a great QB and move on and look for Matt's replacement.

I HIGHLY doubt it's over. He had one shot! I'll admit, his play wasn't good. With all things crashing around him, he settled down. His play DIDN'T cost us this game... The TEAM's horrible play lost us this game.

If people only got ONE SHOT and produced bad play and never given another shot, there'd be tons of people without jobs including Matt Hasselbeck, Troy Aikman (he said it today) and several other GREAT QBs. Not batching him with those guys, but he'll get another shot MARK MY WORDS!!!

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 12:19 AM
I am being real... WE, (The Seahawks), not just Charlie struggled ALL game. The BMW TD turned INT was Charlie's fault right? Leon's fumbled return, Charlie's fault as well right? You get real... Troy Aikman commentated the game and he said it himself, "My first game was horrible, we didn't even score."

Not saying Charlie played GREAT, he made some mistakes, but was he supposed to be PERFECT his debut? To put everything on him for the loss is IGNORANT and YOU are showing YOUR IGNORANCE...

I bet you became a fan the year we went to the Super Bowl, right?

Duh,pretty obvious the whole teams truggeled. Good analysis there! Troy Aikman was a 23 year old rookie who started and his team was 1-15 w/ no talent around him! Charlie has been in the league for five years! Not apples to apples!

Whitehursts first pick was the only throw I was impressed with. He threw the ball in such a small window into double coverage, I think Mike Williams was surprised the ball got there! Listed below are a few examples of how bad he played!

The 3rd an 1 double pass play, I could have made that pass! I am not 100% sure who that throw was to, kinda in between two guys...very lucky that wasn't picked!

On his second pick, high school QB's are tough NEVER throw behind a receiver on an out pattern! Just a bad throw!

He missed a wide open Deon butler to extend the drive on a crucial 3rd down! Maybe he didn't take sacks, but he may as well have! No difference between a crappy thrown ball and taking a sack on third down!

Finally, in the first quarter he did a play action play and rolled out to his right. He threw it to Deon Butler for a one yard gain. There was no one in front of him! Present the run and if the guy comes of deon butler then throw it if not run the fricking ball! He didn't look more mobile than Hasselbeck today!

drew_ellis_23
11-08-2010, 12:24 AM
Duh,pretty obvious the whole teams truggeled. Good analysis there! Troy Aikman was a 23 year old rookie who started and his team was 1-15 w/ no talent around him! Charlie has been in the league for five years! Not apples to apples!

Whitehursts first pick was the only throw I was impressed with. He threw the ball in such a small window into double coverage, I think Mike Williams was surprised the ball got there! Listed below are a few examples of how bad he played!

The 3rd an 1 double pass play, I could have made that pass! I am not 100% sure who that throw was to, kinda in between two guys...very lucky that wasn't picked!

On his second pick, high school QB's are tough NEVER throw behind a receiver on an out pattern! Just a bad throw!

He missed a wide open Deon butler to extend the drive on a crucial 3rd down! Maybe he didn't take sacks, but he may as well have! No difference between a crappy thrown ball and taking a sack on third down!

Finally, in the first quarter he did a play action play and rolled out to his right. He threw it to Deon Butler for a one yard gain. There was no one in front of him! Present the run and if the guy comes of deon butler then throw it if not run the fricking ball! He didn't look more mobile than Hasselbeck today!

YEAH!! Lets run Matt out there go 7 and 9 and get a **** pick and not win the division! We are not better then the Rams or Cardinals so that is what will happen with Matt out there. I can guarantee he wont lead us to a division title. We need to let Charlie play and see what we got. He didnt play any worse then Matt has so far. Matt was just as bad against the Raiders as Charlie was against a much better team.

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 12:32 AM
My bad about calling people out earlier I was still drunk from the game. Why in gods name would I sit through that crap?????? I take Seahawk football way to seriously. I go tailgating at 7:30am every seahawk sunday! I care too much. if the Hawks win or loose heavily dictates wheater I ahve a good or bad weekend. So to call me a fairwatehr fan made me fighting mad! And FYI House I was born in 1986 and have been a Hawks fan since 1992! I used to pray the Hawks would trade for Joe Montana! When I was at Qwest when we did beat the Panthers to go to the superbowl was the happiest day of my life and I'm not going to lie, I had tears!

furmat60
11-08-2010, 12:33 AM
I feel a little better watching the Cowgirls get demolished.

House
11-08-2010, 12:34 AM
YEAH!! Lets run Matt out there go 7 and 9 and get a **** pick and not win the division! We are not better then the Rams or Cardinals so that is what will happen with Matt out there. I can guarantee he wont lead us to a division title. We need to let Charlie play and see what we got. He didnt play any worse then Matt has so far. Matt was just as bad against the Raiders as Charlie was against a much better team.

Thank you. Possibly winning the division with Matt (POSSIBLY) and then getting smashed in the playoffs seems like an amazing plan.

Charlie will get another shot and things will be better. More practice with the 1st team will help the timing and I'm sure the nerves will be a lot less.

If he doesn't work out, then so be it. I want the best thing for our team and our future. We have to evaluate what we need to change and target. Playing Matt isn't the answer...

Seattle4Ever
11-08-2010, 12:34 AM
Duh,pretty obvious the whole teams truggeled. Good analysis there! Troy Aikman was a 23 year old rookie who started and his team was 1-15 w/ no talent around him! Charlie has been in the league for five years! Not apples to apples!

Whitehursts first pick was the only throw I was impressed with. He threw the ball in such a small window into double coverage, I think Mike Williams was surprised the ball got there! Listed below are a few examples of how bad he played!

The 3rd an 1 double pass play, I could have made that pass! I am not 100% sure who that throw was to, kinda in between two guys...very lucky that wasn't picked!

On his second pick, high school QB's are tough NEVER throw behind a receiver on an out pattern! Just a bad throw!

He missed a wide open Deon butler to extend the drive on a crucial 3rd down! Maybe he didn't take sacks, but he may as well have! No difference between a crappy thrown ball and taking a sack on third down!

Finally, in the first quarter he did a play action play and rolled out to his right. He threw it to Deon Butler for a one yard gain. There was no one in front of him! Present the run and if the guy comes of deon butler then throw it if not run the fricking ball! He didn't look more mobile than Hasselbeck today!

It's called an interception.

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 12:36 AM
I dissagree the Rams and Cardinals are not better than the Hawks. The Hawks need to gain some momentum and start playing to their capabilities! Once Okung gets out there, It will make the whole offensive unit better. We saw what difference he made against the Bears!

To quote Herm Edwards "You play to win the game! Hello..." Once we can't make the playoffs, then play towards the future! Right now you play the best option to help you beat the Cardinals and after today it's pretty obvious it's Hasselbeck! Sorry team Charlie!

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 12:39 AM
It's called an interception.

My bad, wasn't clear. Everyone smashes on hasselbeck for going down on some plays and not staying up in the pocket and throwing the ball down field. SOmetimes a sack is the best play.... So you don't throw an INT.

djbaseball21
11-08-2010, 12:43 AM
Take a QB in the first round and he will spend the entire season on his back. Draft linemen and let Charlie have at it for a year, if he sucks next season then you draft a QB. Look at all the good NFL teams. Strong line and run game. It all starts at the line. Our line is **** and Charlie got sacked 0 times. Threw one INT really cause the first one was all BMW. He wasnt great but look at what Matt did his first few starts and he wasnt too shabby. I want to see more. "The divison is up for grabs..........."? I dont want it, I want to develope the young guys and rebuild right. Have you learned nothing from watching the Mariners? This team is not going to win anything now so why start Matt and try and win the division? We just played a playoff team and you saw what happened. Matt would have got sacked 5 times and the score would have been just about as bad.

That is why I said that we should have Charlie start next year and have him groom the rookie. What is everyone's fascination with Charlie? I am all for him starting over Matt, but he is our future QB? Are you kidding me? He had been a 3rd string QB for 6 years! He is 28. We need to draft a QB in a very deep QB draft

House
11-08-2010, 12:43 AM
My bad about calling people out earlier I was still drunk from the game. Why in gods name would I sit through that crap?????? I take Seahawk football way to seriously. I go tailgating at 7:30am every seahawk sunday! I care too much. if the Hawks win or loose heavily dictates wheater I ahve a good or bad weekend. So to call me a fairwatehr fan made me fighting mad! And FYI House I was born in 1986 and have been a Hawks fan since 1992! I used to pray the Hawks would trade for Joe Montana! When I was at Qwest when we did beat the Panthers to go to the superbowl was the happiest day of my life and I'm not going to lie, I had tears!

You seem passionate and I respect that. To call me a MORON for rooting for Charlie, a guy that OUR team invested our near FUTURE in is what made me upset. Matt isn't taking us to another Super Bowl and that's that.

You're not much younger than me (I was born in 1984) and I have been watching them since 1989-90. I wish I was able to go to games as I was a military brat moved around a lot and I am Active Duty now.

I want what's best for the team and I HAVE to believe Charlie will show something. Carroll & Schneider have made HUGE strides to make this a better team and we all should know it isn't going to happen over night. If Charlie doesn't work, then so be it. We'll find someone who will.

BOTTOM LINE: Matt Hasselbeck has done GREAT things for the Seahawks, but those days are past him!!!

Seattle4Ever
11-08-2010, 12:43 AM
My bad, wasn't clear. Everyone smashes on hasselbeck for going down on some plays and not staying up in the pocket and throwing the ball down field. Sometimes a sack is the best play.... So you don't throw an INT.

Touche.

drew_ellis_23
11-08-2010, 12:45 AM
My bad, wasn't clear. Everyone smashes on hasselbeck for going down on some plays and not staying up in the pocket and throwing the ball down field. SOmetimes a sack is the best play.... So you don't throw an INT.

Hey I will admit I would love to see us in the playoffs as once you get there it is a all new season and it is one game at a time but I just dont see us making it and Matt would lead us to a better record most likely but I just think the more we run Charlie out there the better for the future. We do have a shot at winning thew division though so I am sure Matt will get rushed back out there. I want to see a couple more starts from Charlie though to see what we got. I think he is a solid QB.

Baller1
11-08-2010, 12:45 AM
For those of you who are trying to use this game as a reason for the Whitehurst supporters to be wrong is just plain stupid.

Being sacked 0 times says enough in itself; I don't know how people can't see that.

drew_ellis_23
11-08-2010, 12:47 AM
You seem passionate and I respect that. To call me a MORON for rooting for Charlie, a guy that OUR team invested our near FUTURE in is what made me upset. Matt isn't taking us to another Super Bowl and that's that.

You're not much younger than me (I was born in 1984) and I have been watching them since 1989-90. I wish I was able to go to games as I was a military brat moved around a lot and I am Active Duty now.

I want what's best for the team and I HAVE to believe Charlie will show something. Carroll & Schneider have made HUGE strides to make this a better team and we all should know it isn't going to happen over night. If Charlie doesn't work, then so be it. We'll find someone who will.

BOTTOM LINE: Matt Hasselbeck has done GREAT things for the Seahawks, but those days are past him!!!


^^^ This

I appreciate Matt too, just want to see what we got in Carlie in a better sample size before we burn a 1st rounder on a QB. We need to build our O Line

drew_ellis_23
11-08-2010, 12:52 AM
For those of you who are trying to use this game as a reason for the Whitehurst supporters to be wrong is just plain stupid.

Being sacked 0 times says enough in itself; I don't know how people can't see that.

That is what I said. Man he can avoid the sacks and make good throws. he made a one real bad throw and it was picked. the other pick was all on B<W who has returned to his old form. I am 99% sure VJ will be here next year and Charlie will be our QB. Even if we draft a QB he wont start over Charlei next season so might as well get him groomed. If we had a good line it wouldnt matter who our QB was. That being said still need WR's that catch the ball. Even last week when Butler missed that catch that he tipped and was picked off. Matt made a good throw there. Really it is a team effort. We are not a playoff team so we should let the younger guy play. He is 28, but this was his first start.

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 12:53 AM
MY POINT EXACTLY! EVERYONE on the Hasselbeck train cause "He's the best option to win the division." Ok, then what?

This is exactly the main reason I want Charlie out there. I want to see what he has and if he CAN be our future. If not, then we KNOW that. We KNOW nothing with him on the bench. Keeping Matt in is giving people a FALSE hope!

I already know Charlie and like ive been saying i don't like him hes had the same issues that hes had since college very very innaccurate he missed a wide open TE ill admit Mike Williams didn't help when he tipped that ball. But that other interception was thrown on the wrong side and got INT.

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 01:01 AM
For those of you who are trying to use this game as a reason for the Whitehurst supporters to be wrong is just plain stupid.

Being sacked 0 times says enough in itself; I don't know how people can't see that.

??? He didn't get sacked but he wasn't accurate how can you miss a wide open TE on a trick play with no DB around? Your right though im not just pointing the finger at him all game long Eli Picked on Trufant our #1 CB and he made Trufant look really bad.

ccg34
11-08-2010, 01:08 AM
I don't understand why some of you guys would rather not make the playoffs and get a higher draft pick. If we make the playoffs, who knows what can happen? No one expected the Cards to make the super bowl 2 years ago. I would much rather get waxed in the first round of the playoffs than to get a high draft pick for not making the playoffs. Making the playoffs gives young players experience, and confidence. It also keeps the city and the fans interested in the team.

ccg34
11-08-2010, 01:17 AM
I was kind of impressed by Whitehurst's arm strength and mobility. I believe he has more talent and athleticism than Hasselbeck, but Hasselbeck is smarter, experienced, and has more respect in the locker room. The key to our offense is the o-line. We haven't been able to establish the Forsett-Lynch comb the last 2 games. If we establish the run our passing game will open like the Red Sea.

Yendil
11-08-2010, 01:21 AM
I was really hoping Whitehurst was going to prove me wrong, but he didn't. What good is 100 mph fastball if you can't hit the strike zone. He did the same thing this game as he did preseason, launch it straight over their heads.

House
11-08-2010, 01:22 AM
I was kind of impressed by Whitehurst's arm strength and mobility. I believe he has more talent and athleticism than Hasselbeck, but Hasselbeck is smarter, experienced, and has more respect in the locker room. The key to our offense is the o-line. We haven't been able to establish the Forsett-Lynch comb the last 2 games. If we establish the run our passing game will open like the Red Sea.

This is why the argument that Charlie is done is TONS premature! Few snaps with the first team, no running game, tons of injuries and Nerves of his 1st start. He needs more time before people shut him down! I haven't given up yet!!!

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 01:37 AM
I don't understand why some of you guys would rather not make the playoffs and get a higher draft pick. If we make the playoffs, who knows what can happen? No one expected the Cards to make the super bowl 2 years ago. I would much rather get waxed in the first round of the playoffs than to get a high draft pick for not making the playoffs. Making the playoffs gives young players experience, and confidence. It also keeps the city and the fans interested in the team.

It wasn't just the QB who made me sick look at our DL thanks to that Raiders game we lost 2 key starters which will bite us in the end. Red Bryant was a big reason we stopped the run he was pretty much MVP of the line. Losing Colin Cole also sucked and from what i hear he has a High Ankle sprain don't expect him back for 6 weeks...

Hopefully getting Mebane and Okung back boosts us and we are alot better because it seemed like when we lost Okung any hope of a run game went with it.

Wonder whats in the water up here i swear for the past 3 years half our team has been decimated by injuries.

MattColby
11-08-2010, 02:31 AM
I was really hoping Whitehurst was going to prove me wrong, but he didn't. What good is 100 mph fastball if you can't hit the strike zone. He did the same thing this game as he did preseason, launch it straight over their heads.

You nailed it.

Seattle4Ever
11-08-2010, 02:46 AM
^ I love the enthusiasm House. I hope he comes out and does great, but I don't think he is gonna have such a great career.

FWBrodie
11-08-2010, 02:47 AM
O-line+D-Line=PUKE EVERYWHERE

What a ****ing mess. Man I'm tired of injuries. Brace em the **** up.

House
11-08-2010, 02:50 AM
^ I love the enthusiasm House. I hope he comes out and does great, but I don't think he is gonna have such a great career.

Time will tell and I KNOW it won't just be one game.

Baller1
11-08-2010, 03:05 AM
How many years in a row is this going to be with no pro bowlers (unless I'm mistaken and we've had one recently)?

krisxsong
11-08-2010, 03:13 AM
That is what I said. Man he can avoid the sacks and make good throws. he made a one real bad throw and it was picked. the other pick was all on B<W who has returned to his old form. I am 99% sure VJ will be here next year and Charlie will be our QB. Even if we draft a QB he wont start over Charlei next season so might as well get him groomed. If we had a good line it wouldnt matter who our QB was. That being said still need WR's that catch the ball. Even last week when Butler missed that catch that he tipped and was picked off. Matt made a good throw there. Really it is a team effort. We are not a playoff team so we should let the younger guy play. He is 28, but this was his first start.

I don't know anything about Whitehurst, I hear he is much more capable than Hasslebeck at running.

However, from what I saw this game was that the reason the QB didn't get sacked isn't because he was mobile, it was because he made a conscious effort to get rid of the ball quick. If you are always making a conscious effort to get rid of the ball quick, you won't get sacked but you will throw some inaccurate passes, which is just as effect as a sack.

To all the trash-talkers that came into the Giants thread and talked smack before the game, HAHA!

To all the other Seahawks fans with class, good game, brighter days are ahead for your team.

House
11-08-2010, 03:17 AM
I don't know anything about Whitehurst, I hear he is much more capable than Hasslebeck at running.

However, from what I saw this game was that the reason the QB didn't get sacked isn't because he was mobile, it was because he made a conscious effort to get rid of the ball quick. If you are always making a conscious effort to get rid of the ball quick, you won't get sacked but you will throw some inaccurate passes, which is just as effect as a sack.

To all the trash-talkers that came into the Giants thread and talked smack before the game, HAHA!

To all the other Seahawks fans with class, good game, brighter days are ahead for your team.

Thank you for shown class!!! You guys are the best team in the NFC in my opinion and I want to wish you luck throughout the rest of the season.

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 03:23 AM
Thank you for shown class!!! You guys are the best team in the NFC in my opinion and I want to wish you luck throughout the rest of the season.

What House said. Wish we put up more of a fight though i watched it all the way to the end it was just horrible.

Burleson81
11-08-2010, 07:42 AM
BOTTOM LINE: Matt Hasselbeck has done GREAT things for the Seahawks, but those days are past him!!!

Bottom line: It's Matt's last hurrah. It's his last chance to shoot for the championship, and in all likelihood, fall short, but he still deserves the shot.

I don't care if we end up with a mid round pick because we sent Matt out there for the season. I care that we give him his shot.

bruser23
11-08-2010, 07:54 AM
Bottom line: It's Matt's last hurrah. It's his last chance to shoot for the championship, and in all likelihood, fall short, but he still deserves the shot.

I don't care if we end up with a mid round pick because we sent Matt out there for the season. I care that we give him his shot.

No. Where did that get the packers? They needed to move on, so they did. That's what championship teams do, they play to win, and please the fans with a 45-7 romping of The Cowboys under Aaron Rodgers, not Brett Farve.

If Matt gives us 1 more win, it still isn't worth it, not unless without a doubt he brings us NFC Championships. We can win the west without him. Our schedule allows for it, if we beat the Cards next week.

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 08:33 AM
FYI, He wasn't sacked all game long because they held the tight end and RB in topass block on a ton of plays. They had max protection and I have to believe they told Charlie get rid of the ball fast b/c he threw it to his first read about 90% of the time. He really telegraphed a lot of throws!

FWBrodie
11-08-2010, 11:22 AM
How bout that pass to Obomanu though huh? What a pretty ball. Yeah he was wide open, but there were several balls thrown that were almost shocking because we haven't seen that kind of zip on a pass in over a decade.

steelie
11-08-2010, 11:51 AM
I HIGHLY doubt it's over. He had one shot! I'll admit, his play wasn't good. With all things crashing around him, he settled down. His play DIDN'T cost us this game... The TEAM's horrible play lost us this game.

If people only got ONE SHOT and produced bad play and never given another shot, there'd be tons of people without jobs including Matt Hasselbeck, Troy Aikman (he said it today) and several other GREAT QBs. Not batching him with those guys, but he'll get another shot MARK MY WORDS!!!

Yeah you know what House? You are probably right Charlie will get another shot because Matt might not be able to go again next week. I love how a lot of people here are saying Matt is our best chance to win the division but why win the division and get a lower draft pick? That is horsesh#&. All those guys on that team want to friggin win. You think they wouldn't be choked about the coaching staff putting someone out there that wouldn't be able to get the job done all to get a higher draft pick? That is not how pro sports is played guys. And if there were some guys on that team that thought that way then I would want them outta here because those are the types of guys that will get you nothing but mediocrity.

Yes were are banged up pretty bad right now and the O-line is doing the best they can with what they got but it isn't enough. With Matt under centre he atleast brings some leadership to the group and will instill in the team the little confidence they have left right now. I do want to win the division and not tank to get a higher pick. I wanna get to the dance and maybe we get healthier and can do something in there maybe not. But if we don't try to get there then we will never know.

Seattle King
11-08-2010, 12:06 PM
Give Hasselbeck 8 starts and Charlie 8 starts and I would imagine their stats would look somewhat identical. Hasselbeck isn't going to improve, Charlie can only get better.

We are still a solid O-lineman, WR, and CB away from being serious contenders every year.

BMW, Butler, Stokley are a good group but I don't think either of them can be THE guy.

Trufant isn't a pro bowler anymore, Jennings sucks, Thurmond might be solid down the road.

We need another draft like last years to really help establish what Carroll wants this team to be.

FWBrodie
11-08-2010, 12:22 PM
I disagree. I think Trufant is still playing some great corner. Also, Thurmond is already flashing some solid play.

No question they need to continue adding talent to the lines though.

steelie
11-08-2010, 12:32 PM
Give Hasselbeck 8 starts and Charlie 8 starts and I would imagine their stats would look somewhat identical. Hasselbeck isn't going to improve, Charlie can only get better.

We are still a solid O-lineman, WR, and CB away from being serious contenders every year.

BMW, Butler, Stokley are a good group but I don't think either of them can be THE guy.

Trufant isn't a pro bowler anymore, Jennings sucks, Thurmond might be solid down the road.

We need another draft like last years to really help establish what Carroll wants this team to be.

You might be right but you may not be. If we have a shot at winning the division we do it and we use the best personnel possible. To just say this is Charlie's team now and to gamble the division away would be a bad idea. If MAtt is ready to go you use him and if he cannot get it done and we are out of the race with 4 games left then you let Charlie have the starts not while we are in a race.

House
11-08-2010, 01:11 PM
Tanking the season for a higher draft pick isn't exactly where I was going. Charlie Whitehurst has A LOT to do with how this next draft goes! We already don't have a 3rd rd pick because of the trade for him. We need to see what he's capable of. Can you base what he's going to do off of the game yesterday alone? If you can honestly say "YES", you should be evaluated yourself.

Yes we are BANGED up and I personally think that had a lot to do with the two past seasons as well. I think if you gave Charlie another shot, he'd be better. He DIDN'T lose us that game yesterday. How many times have we gone 3 and out on our first possessions this season? 5 games this year! Not all with Charlie at the helm.

I'll admit, I DON'T KNOW what Charlie is capable of... At this point no one does. I watched the game back last night and YES, I was pissed about the missed gadget play! The first time through, I couldn't tell if it was Charlie's fault or Chris Baker's, but Charlie clearly overthrew him. The INT at the goalline was clearly not his fault and the 2nd INT could've been placed a lot better! TIMING is key and it wasn't there.

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 02:44 PM
Give Hasselbeck 8 starts and Charlie 8 starts and I would imagine their stats would look somewhat identical. Hasselbeck isn't going to improve, Charlie can only get better.

We are still a solid O-lineman, WR, and CB away from being serious contenders every year.

BMW, Butler, Stokley are a good group but I don't think either of them can be THE guy.

Trufant isn't a pro bowler anymore, Jennings sucks, Thurmond might be solid down the road.

We need another draft like last years to really help establish what Carroll wants this team to be.

Trufant has been playing great at Corner so far this year Eli just crapped on him this game i hope he improves that was some sloppy technique he wasn't even looking for the ball when he was getting those PI.

Locklear is the real problem though he hasn't done anything all year except get beat and get called for stupid penaltys.

House
11-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Trufant has been playing great at Corner so far this year Eli just crapped on him this game i hope he improves that was some sloppy technique he wasn't even looking for the ball when he was getting those PI.

Locklear is the real problem though he hasn't done anything all year except get beat and get called for stupid penaltys.

Locklear needs to go! I said it in another thread. I WISH Ray Willis was healthy! Our line needs some moving around! Okung needs to get healthy and this is what the line SHOULD look like

LT: Okung
LG: Pitts
C: Spencer
RG: Gibson
RT: Andrews

or

LT: Okung
LG: Pitts
C: Spencer
RG: Andrews
RT: Polumbus

djbaseball21
11-08-2010, 04:25 PM
Tanking the season for a higher draft pick isn't exactly where I was going. Charlie Whitehurst has A LOT to do with how this next draft goes! We already don't have a 3rd rd pick because of the trade for him. We need to see what he's capable of. Can you base what he's going to do off of the game yesterday alone? If you can honestly say "YES", you should be evaluated yourself.

Yes we are BANGED up and I personally think that had a lot to do with the two past seasons as well. I think if you gave Charlie another shot, he'd be better. He DIDN'T lose us that game yesterday. How many times have we gone 3 and out on our first possessions this season? 5 games this year! Not all with Charlie at the helm.

I'll admit, I DON'T KNOW what Charlie is capable of... At this point no one does. I watched the game back last night and YES, I was pissed about the missed gadget play! The first time through, I couldn't tell if it was Charlie's fault or Chris Baker's, but Charlie clearly overthrew him. The INT at the goalline was clearly not his fault and the 2nd INT could've been placed a lot better! TIMING is key and it wasn't there.

I agree that there is no way you can base what Charlie did on one game. It was nice to finally see some zip and some deep throws. Just wish his accuracy was better on the deep ball because it was pretty bad. That pass to Williams in the endzone was perfect tho.

With that being said, I do not think Charlie should determine our next draft. I think with a very deep QB class we need to take a QB in the 1st or second round. I don't think we need to trade up and get luck like everyone is saying because lets be realistic, it would take a lot to move into the top 5 picks, but there are QB's like Newton, Mallet, Locker, etc, who would be a great addition to this team. It is hard to rebuild with a 28 year old qb, 29 next year when he starts and expect longevity in his career. I think we draft a QB and keep Charlie next year and haev him start since he is under contract, then maybe keep him one additional year so that the rookie can be groomed. Just my opinion. IF, and a big if, Charlie is lights out, then yeah obviously you forget drafting a qb and dont worry about the age thing, but if he is just decent or kind of good, I do not see how you don't draft a QB in this draft.

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 04:55 PM
How bout that pass to Obomanu though huh? What a pretty ball. Yeah he was wide open, but there were several balls thrown that were almost shocking because we haven't seen that kind of zip on a pass in over a decade.

Why not get Jamarcus Russell then? he can throw the ball hard! Any one of us could have made that throw! He was wide open in garbage time. If he did that in the first quarter against starters it would have meant something! He REALLY needs to work on his accuracy!

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 06:44 PM
Why not get Jamarcus Russell then? he can throw the ball hard! Any one of us could have made that throw! He was wide open in garbage time. If he did that in the first quarter against starters it would have meant something! He REALLY needs to work on his accuracy!

Yea Charlie admitted that was pretty much a garbage TD the coverage was so bad that had to have been backups.

djbaseball21
11-08-2010, 10:10 PM
Why not get Jamarcus Russell then? he can throw the ball hard! Any one of us could have made that throw! He was wide open in garbage time. If he did that in the first quarter against starters it would have meant something! He REALLY needs to work on his accuracy!

I agree. He made one good throw, and that was to Williams in the endzone and it got picked. The rest of his throws were off target or to the wrong shoulder, etc. I am not making in opinion on him yet, he has had one NFL start so that is unfair, but right now I would rather have Matt in there as long as we are in contention for the division. I can't stand people on this forum saying that even if Charlie doesn't give us the best chance to win he is the future and we should start him. That is CRAP. Put the best player in there and win some football games and win this division. If you want to throw games for the future and are content with seeing the Seahawks lose so we get a higher draft pick, you are not a devoted fan and definitely don't know what it is like to be an athlete and compete.

With that being said, unfortunately, I believe Matt gives us the best chance to win. I wish it was Charlie, but it is not. Not yet. And maybe never.

How is everyone so content with keeping him as our future QB when he has been a 3rd stringer all his NFL career? We need to draft someone. Bad.

NateyB24
11-08-2010, 11:14 PM
I agree. He made one good throw, and that was to Williams in the endzone and it got picked. The rest of his throws were off target or to the wrong shoulder, etc. I am not making in opinion on him yet, he has had one NFL start so that is unfair, but right now I would rather have Matt in there as long as we are in contention for the division. I can't stand people on this forum saying that even if Charlie doesn't give us the best chance to win he is the future and we should start him. That is CRAP. Put the best player in there and win some football games and win this division. If you want to throw games for the future and are content with seeing the Seahawks lose so we get a higher draft pick, you are not a devoted fan and definitely don't know what it is like to be an athlete and compete.

With that being said, unfortunately, I believe Matt gives us the best chance to win. I wish it was Charlie, but it is not. Not yet. And maybe never.

How is everyone so content with keeping him as our future QB when he has been a 3rd stringer all his NFL career? We need to draft someone. Bad.

You know i blamed that INT on Williams but even that one was on Whitehurst he delivered the ball late and took to long to deliver it.

Thebudler
11-08-2010, 11:24 PM
I agree! i think Williams noticed he was in double coverage and WHitehurst threw it in such a small window I think it surprised him a little. That was the only throw that really impressed me.

djbaseball21
11-08-2010, 11:25 PM
You know i blamed that INT on Williams but even that one was on Whitehurst he delivered the ball late and took to long to deliver it.

Yeah, I kind of agree, but that was definitely a ball that should be caught by a team contending for playoffs. Two weeks in a row Williams has dropped that now. He is not looking to good lately.

I understand Whitehurt will go through growing pains, I just don't think you should be going through these growing pains as a 27 year old QB who has never taken a snap until now.

SEAbeliever
11-09-2010, 01:07 AM
3 words : deal with it.
3 more: onto the next.
3 more: division championship awaits

:D

NateyB24
11-09-2010, 01:17 AM
3 words : deal with it.
3 more: onto the next.
3 more: division championship awaits

:D

Yea i really wasn't expecting us to win this one i was more dissapointed in the Oakland loss because i thought we had a much greater chance. I knew the Giants were going to exploit us because they just have more talent which i hope we get in 2 drafts.

Well we get the Cardinals next week gut check time if we get blown out by Derek Anderson i don't know what to think of the team.

House
11-09-2010, 01:21 AM
Yea i really wasn't expecting us to win this one i was more dissapointed in the Oakland loss because i thought we had a much greater chance. I knew the Giants were going to exploit us because they just have more talent which i hope we get in 2 drafts.

Well we get the Cardinals next week gut check time if we get blown out by Derek Anderson i don't know what to think of the team.

We better not lose to the Cards...

SEAbeliever
11-09-2010, 01:37 AM
We beat the Cardinals last time in convincing fashion...

A supposedly better Vikings team had them @ home and took them to OT...and they lost.

They are a losing football squad right now.

They also have the winning combination of the Derek Anderson/Max Hall Experiment in the Acquisition of Fail.

We will go into the Desert Toaster and make little red and black english muffin and jelly spread sandwiches out of the ***** :D