View Full Version : NBA All Time Redraft Playoffs: 1) San Antonio Spurs v. 8) Vancouver Grizzlies

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10-29-2010, 04:44 AM
Every once in a while, the fantastic and committed users of PSD participate in the NBA All time redraft. Players that were eligible to be drafted must have played in the 1980-81 or beyond. The intention of this rule was to ensure that PSD community had better knowledge of the players being drafted and voted on. Please take the time to look over the players and the teams and vote for the better squad. We thank you for your time as your votes are important to determining an NBA ALL Time Redraft champion.

Please evaluate each player based on how well they played in their prime; injuries have no bearing on this game what so ever. Most of the GM’s have taken the time to create a clubhouse with stats for their player which is based on each player’s best s 3 consecutive seasons.

Spurs Clubhouse (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14941232&postcount=26)
Grizzlies Clubhouse (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14912021&postcount=5)

1) San Antonio Spurs v. 8) Vancouver Grizzlies

Spurs Depth Chart
PG: Magic Johnson / David Wesley
SG: Dale Ellis / Rolando Blackman / George Lynch
SF: Steve Smith / Hersey Hawkins / Tim Thomas
PF: Amare Stoudemire / Anthony Mason
C: Dikembe Mutombo / Emeka Okafor

Grizzlies Depth Chart
PG: Gary Payton / Jason Williams
SG: Ron Harper / John Starks
SF: Glen Rice / Dan Majerle
PF: Chris Webber / Lamar Odom / Rick Mahorn
C: Marcus Camby /Brian Grant / Benoit Benjamin

Spurs Write Up

We tried to focus our team around the strengths of our star, Magic Johnson. We made sure that he got two spot up shooters, and an elite finisher in the post. We wanted to make sure that this team was damn near impossible to stop on offense, as well as being able to bring in some players for defense off the bench, and I believe we have accomplished that. This is the most complete team in the re-draft

PG: Magic Johnson is the best PG in the history of the league and arguably the 2nd best player in the league’s history. He was a 6’9 force and we have never seen anything like him since. A great rebounder, finisher, and obviously an elite passer. Gary Payton was a great on ball defender, but at the end of the day he was only 6’3 and Magic’s handle is never getting plucked. He’d have his usual 18-13 series against Payton.

SG: Dale Ellis will THRIVE in the Showtime offense. He was one of the deadliest shooters in the history of the game, and will get PLENTY of open threes in with Magic and Amare “headlining” the offense. He was a 26.1 ppg scorer over the years of 1986-89 with 41.6% shooter from beyond the arc. He’ll be a load for Harper to handle.

SF: Steve Smith is another wingman that will be great in the Showtime offense. A slasher / shooter, he’d play the role of the perimeter defender and the cutter. One of two players in history to make 7 3’s in a quarter, one of only 3 players to be 8-8 from downtown in a game, and well as 3 20+ ppg seasons and multiple 17+ ppg seasons. He’s another key option on the offense, and will have a great time playing with a post threat, another spot up shooter, and Magic Johnson.

PF: Magic lobs to Amare. Magic pick and roll with Amare. “The opposing defense cannot double team Amare because there are two deadly shooters on the wings”. Enough said. Chris Webber was a great offense player (passing, mid range) but his defense isn’t ready for what Amare would bring to the table in another suns-like run and gun offense.

C: Dikembe vs Camby comes down to the defensive side of the ball. Both aren’t going to get much scoring off against the other, so it comes down to who can be a bigger game changer on the opposing side. Mutombo’s numbers are legendary. He himself is a walking legend. He and Amare down low makes for one of the best offense / defense combos in the game.

Bench: 6th man Rolando Blackman vs 6th man Lamar Odom – Blackman is a 4 time all star who is automatic point off the bench. Odom is a good role player that can cause some mismatches, but against Ant Mase Sr, his finesse game won’t stand a chance. My bench also boasts other defensive players in Okafor, Wesley, and George Lynch while having scorers such as Tim Thomas and Hersey Hawkins to go along with Blackman. I believe the advantage is to us seeing as we have the best player off the bench along with the best interior defense.
Grizzlies Write Up

Why the Grizz win:
We have built our team around the gretest defensive Point Guard of all time in Gary Payton. He's the only PG to ever win the Defensive Player Of The Year award. Teaming Ron Harper with Gary in the backcourt gives us an absolutely pesky combo to hassle the Spurs all game long. Ron Harper is a 5x NBA Champion and he was a beast defensively as well. Him and Gary each averaged over 2 steals per game for their careers. We have Glen Rice at SF who is one of the best shooters to ever touch a basketball. He's number 8 all-time in 3 Point shots made, and when Glen Rice was on nobody shot like him. We have Chris Webber at PF, Who was one of only 4 players ever to average 20 points 9 rebounds and 4 assists. Webber was always the best player on his team and he's one of the 75 best to ever play the game. And at Center we have the notorious Marcus Camby. Camby compliments Chris Webber perfectly in the frontcourt. Camby is a great rebounder and one of the best shot blockers in NBA history, he ranks 12th all time in shots blocked. Marcus also won a Defensive Player Of The Years Award. We have a strong defensive first team to slow down Magic Johnson and company, and plenty of offense to get by.

The Bench:
We have Thunder Dan Majerle who'll play alot of minutes at the 2 guard off the bench, Dan was a 3x NBA all star and made a couple of All NBA defensive squads as well. Thunder Dan is also one of the 20 greatest 3 point shooters of all time. He had range for days. Lamar Odom will be the 6th man. You all know how valuable the candyman is. He's an NBA champion and a criticial piece to the LA Lakers. His length and skill makes him dangerous as we can put him anywhere on the court. Hes a mismatch on the wing because he's the size of a big, with the skill of a point guard. John Starks will provide more tough, physical defensive minutes for our squad as well. Johnny's that guy that played for the Knicks that dunked over Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in the playoffs, one of the NBA's top 50 greatest moments. Jason Williams will provide quality backup PG minutes for Payton. Williams was one of the sickest ball handlers ever. Who could forget J Will's elbow pass in the 2000 rookie-sophomore game? Our big man roatation leaves us with the big physical rastaman Brian Grant and the baddest bad boy of em all Rick Mahorn. There a little smaller in height, 6'9 and 6'10, but their big bodied badasses who always found themselves in the position for a board. To make up for lost height we Benoit Benjamin who was 28th all time in blocked shots and averaged 11 and 7 with almost 3 blocks for his career. Our team is going up against Magic Johnson, but really we matchup very well with them. We have an outstanding defensive unit, and really the bets option you could slow down Magic with in Payton. Their strategy is to drive with Magic and dish out to one of their shooters, we have a strong perimeter defense and if someone wants to take it to the rim themselves Mr. Camby will be waiting. Don't count our team out because we were the 8th seed in a strong Western Conference. Were very balanced and have the makeup to take down the Spurs.

10-29-2010, 05:40 AM
Hope my Grizz can pull this off! Good luck to you sixerlover:clap:

10-29-2010, 12:45 PM
The difference of quality is not huge, but Spurs are the better team

10-29-2010, 12:51 PM
We have very similar squads, ours is just stronger defensively. But he's got Magic.

10-29-2010, 05:02 PM
Best of luck to ya. We actually have very equal teams. Magic is the difference however :p

10-29-2010, 07:00 PM
:laugh2: last I checked there wasn't 4 GM's.

10-29-2010, 07:26 PM
Best of luck to ya. We actually have very equal teams. Magic is the difference however :p

There extremely similar. We both had the same draft strategy. You just happened to get a top pick. It's a genius strategy if you ask me:p I couldn't put anyone better on Magic than Gary Payton though really. Amare is basically Webber just more explosive. Mutombo and Camby are the same other than Mutombo's taller with more length and Camby's got an offensive game. Rice and Ellis 2 of the greatest shooters of all-time, Harper and Smith is a little different. the defensive specialist with the 3 point shooter, but as we compared before if we left Majerle in there him and Smith are very similar as well.

10-29-2010, 08:14 PM
Spurs by a nose. I don't know how the Grizz fell so low that team should have been top 4-5 IMO

10-29-2010, 08:49 PM
Assuming health isn't an issue (you can take any version of the player after all), a tandem of young magic and young stoudemire is just... Scary. They'd be absolutely unstoppable in the open court. Spurs win this one big.

10-29-2010, 09:17 PM
Spurs by a nose. I don't know how the Grizz fell so low that team should have been top 4-5 IMO

We thought so too:shrug:

10-29-2010, 09:18 PM
Assuming health isn't an issue (you can take any version of the player after all), a tandem of young magic and young stoudemire is just... Scary. They'd be absolutely unstoppable in the open court. Spurs win this one big.

:laugh2: Sure you know who Gary Payton, Chris Webber and Glen Rice are? If you say they beat us in a close one, yeah thats fine but big? No.

10-29-2010, 10:18 PM
The Spurs outside shooting completes their offense. Not fond of their defense, but it won't hurt them enough to kill them in this series.

I love the Grizzlies team though and I still stand by Webber vs. Amar'e is not close. Webber went up against much, much better PFs in his prime.