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Lou Holtz Lisp
10-24-2010, 02:44 PM
Anybody else see this? Pretty weird.



With the 2010-2011 offseason drawing closer, we're going to start hearing more and more about how much each team is able to spend on their 2011 roster. Some are obviously able to spend more than others, but every team will be impacted by how much money they already have tied up in existing contracts.

Below is a list of the guaranteed money that each team is responsible for next season. Players in their pre-arbitration or arbitration-eligible seasons do not count since they can simply be non-tendered. Buyouts are included, however, as is money owed to former players (like the Dodgers and Juan Pierre) as well as money received from other teams for current players (like the Cubs and Carlos Silva).

Obviously this data is unofficial, but it's a fine ballpark number to reference.

Angels, $93.667MM: Torii Hunter, Scott Kazmir, and Dan Haren are the big obligations here.
Astros, $41.25MM: Almost half belongs to Carlos Lee.
Athletics, $11.48MM: Eric Chavez's $3MM buyout is the biggest commitment.
Blue Jays, $43.243MM: Lots and lots of Vernon Wells here.
Braves, $61.867MM: Derek Lowe, Chipper Jones, and Tim Hudson are the biggest obligations.
Brewers, $32.371MM: Mostly Randy Wolf.
Cardinals, $81.089MM: Albert Pujols, Matt Holliday, Chris Carpenter, and Kyle Lohse make up most of this.
Cubs, $87.925MM: This will go up if/when Aramis Ramirez exercises his $14.6MM player option.
Diamondbacks, $19.991MM: Chris Young and Mark Reynolds make up more than half of this.
Dodgers, $61.833MM: This includes Ted Lilly's new deal.
Giants, $76.933MM: A big chunk of this is going to Barry Zito and Aaron Rowand.
Indians, $27.455MM: It's all for Travis Hafner, Grady Sizemore, and Fausto Carmona.
Mariners, $69.596MM: Ichiro Suzuki is the big hit.
Marlins, $19.75MM: Almost entirely Hanley Ramirez and Josh Johnson.
Mets, $108.763MM: Both Johan Santana and Carlos Beltran are over $20MM.
Nationals, $29.150MM: Ryan Zimmerman and Jason Marquis are the big earners.
Orioles, $28.7MM: Brian Roberts and Nick Markakis make up the majority of this.
Padres, $1.1MM: Just amazing. All of that money is tied up in buyouts for Jon Garland and Yorvit Torrealba, so they technically have no one under contract for next season.
Phillies, $143.728MM: They owe six players eight-figure salaries next season.
Pirates, $16.75MM: Ryan Doumit and Paul Maholm are the big commitments.
Rangers, $32.1MM: Just about half goes to Michael Young.
Rays, $17.674MM: Ben Zobrist and James Shields make up basically half of this.
Reds, $42.733MM: Francisco Cordero, Brandon Phillips, and Scott Rolen are making the big bucks.
Red Sox, $100.506MM: John Lackey, J.D. Drew, and Josh Beckett are almost half of this.
Rockies, $50.841: Lots of Aaron Cook and Todd Helton in here.
Royals, $45.53MM: Zack Greinke and Gil Meche will get most of this.
Tigers, $61.025MM: This is less than half of their 2010 commitments.
Twins, $72.35MM: Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau, Joe Nathan, and Michael Cuddyer account for almost all of that.
White Sox, $75.425MM: Most of this goes to Jake Peavy, Alexis Rios, and Mark Buehrle.
Yankees, $144.612MM: Just wait until they re-sign Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera.
Thanks to Cot's Baseball Contracts for the information used


link: ********************************/2010/10/2011-payroll-commitments.html

d79cheese
10-24-2010, 02:54 PM
that is for after the 2011 season. they still have most of their players coming back for 2011. but it is pretty remarkable to not have anyone under contract in 2 years

Gigantes4Life
10-24-2010, 03:18 PM
Something seems off here. They have A-Gonz under contract so this is obviously incorrect.

d79cheese
10-24-2010, 03:23 PM
Something seems off here. They have A-Gonz under contract so this is obviously incorrect.

the title of the thread and the article is a bit misleading. it is talking about teams contract situations for after the 2011 season. so the padres have nobody under contract for the 2012 season. this is A-Gonz last season under contract with the pads.

elizur
10-24-2010, 03:24 PM
Something seems off here. They have A-Gonz under contract so this is obviously incorrect.

Exactly what I was thinking. It does not deal with arbitration cases though. Maybe, he does not have a binded contract yet and still needs to be negotiated for this arb. year.

Twins Fan 7
10-24-2010, 03:30 PM
The Padres still control 20-22 players, but all of them are under 6 years of service time and they get contracts year by year. The Padres simply have to tender them a contract. And A-Gon is not under contract, the team has an option they can pick up on him. So technically the title is correct.

Sick Of It All
10-24-2010, 09:55 PM
The Padres still control 20-22 players, but all of them are under 6 years of service time and they get contracts year by year. The Padres simply have to tender them a contract. And A-Gon is not under contract, the team has an option they can pick up on him. So technically the title is correct.

Bingo.

Jeffy25
10-24-2010, 10:07 PM
and seeing how several of their players are under arb control

Dyna-sty
10-25-2010, 07:23 PM
I agree with Twins.

lavell12
10-26-2010, 12:44 AM
I know this is off topic but the phillies could be in deep trouble with 140 Million plus tied up with just a few guys.

NYY NYJ NYK
10-26-2010, 01:01 AM
Lies

Brew Crew
10-26-2010, 01:27 AM
FUDFJdsjf

Nirvanaskurdt
10-26-2010, 01:28 AM
woa :speechless:

theLgndKllr35
10-26-2010, 01:55 AM
I know this is off topic but the phillies could be in deep trouble with 140 Million plus tied up with just a few guys.

No we are. Amaro will run this team into the ground. Stock up on your 2008 WS gear now.

Jeffy25
10-26-2010, 02:16 AM
No we are. Amaro will run this team into the ground. Stock up on your 2008 WS gear now.

yup


A swing through the Phillies page of Cot's Baseball Contracts illustrates an interesting approach by the team: they've freely given out extra contract years to many players when it did not appear necessary or prudent. The examples:

Ryan Howard, already signed through 2011, was extended through 2016 in April of this year.
Jamie Moyer, a Type A free agent after a fine 2008 season, was not offered arbitration but instead given a two-year deal.
Cole Hamels, a Super Two player who was arbitration-eligible for the first time, signed a three-year, $20.5MM deal. He's pitched well, but did the Phillies save significant money in giving up the chance to go year-to-year? This was as player-friendly as pitcher extensions get.
Placido Polanco, a Type A free agent, was not offered arbitration by the Tigers. I took this to mean the Tigers felt Polanco would have no trade value on a one-year deal, so why did the Phillies sign him for three?
Joe Blanton, arbitration-eligible for 2010, signed a three-year deal in January buying out two free agent seasons at the market rate. Was this some kind of payroll manipulation, since $6MM of Blanton's $7MM salary this year came in the form of a signing bonus?
Free agent reliever Danys Baez, coming off a middling season for the Orioles, got a two-year deal. Similar pitchers signed one-year deals.
Free agent backup catcher Brian Schneider, coming off a terrible season, received two years.
Bench player Ross Gload, coming off an unimpressive campaign, surprisingly received two years. He's hit well in 116 plate appearances, however.
Bench player Greg Dobbs, arbitration-eligible for the first time, received a two-year deal. Why not go year-to-year with a guy like this?
The Phillies exercised the 2011 club option for shortstop Jimmy Rollins a year early.
The multiyear contracts don't end there, but it seems unfair to call the Phillies out for the rest. The remaining deals either saved the team decent money, or were of a length necessary to lock up the player as a free agent.


Amaro is making bad choice after bad choice, it won't be long before the team isn't able to sustain their payroll and still win. They will likely still profit, but the team likely won't be winning the division each year

JRisdabest
10-26-2010, 02:27 AM
u need to find a hobby

STAT1
10-26-2010, 03:03 AM
Good. They can sign LeBron, Wade, and Bosh.

Jeffy25
10-26-2010, 03:06 PM
And all this says to me is that the Padres are in a good position to grow. This is a better thing than people realize/think

BlondeBomber41
10-27-2010, 03:56 AM
Just more evidence of how pathetic the Yankees are. Nobody is even close to them, and they still have to resign Jeter/Rivera and will still go after Cliff Lee with huge money.

Perfect example of why a cap is needed.

Jeffy25
10-27-2010, 02:53 PM
Just more evidence of how pathetic the Yankees are. Nobody is even close to them, and they still have to resign Jeter/Rivera and will still go after Cliff Lee with huge money.

Perfect example of why a cap is needed.

do you mean perfect example of why owners should spend?

As a GM, I would rather have nobody signed in 3 years, then a bunch of aging superstars on their decline that I won't be able to move. The Padres have flexibility.