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xabial
10-12-2010, 11:18 PM
Cliff Lee

2-0 1.13 ERA; 21K No Walks This Division Series.

120 Pitches; 90 Strikes, 30 Balls this game

7-0 Career Postseason Record; 1.26 ERA Career Postseason Record

He isnt Human

How does he do it?

Gigantes4Life
10-12-2010, 11:19 PM
I don't understand how he doesn't have a negative walk total by now.

1903
10-12-2010, 11:19 PM
I said last season that he was a cyborg and I'm standing by that.

GoatMilk
10-12-2010, 11:20 PM
the real question is, how much are the yankees going to throw at him?
same as CC?
more than CC?
little less than CC?


but yeah, he's remarkable. amazing control.

Havoc Wreaker
10-12-2010, 11:23 PM
What surprises me the most is that he didn't have his best stuff tonight...

CityofTreez
10-12-2010, 11:25 PM
is the epitome of Clutch!

JCmasta
10-12-2010, 11:29 PM
If anyone can break this DF/W curse/championship drought it's cliff lee.

This guy is a monster on the big stage.

CHRISDODGERS
10-12-2010, 11:31 PM
now its time to shut down the yankees, again.

misterd
10-12-2010, 11:32 PM
the real question is, how much are the yankees going to throw at him?
same as CC?
more than CC?
little less than CC?


but yeah, he's remarkable. amazing control.

A little less than CC, simply because of age. He may get an annual between 20-25m, but I'd be amazed if it was guaranteed for more than 4 years (though I can see option years tacked on).

Honestly, even though I am a Yankee fan, I would love to see Lee return to Texas.

misterd
10-12-2010, 11:33 PM
now its time to shut down the yankees, again.

'sokay. We can win the other 5.

xabial
10-12-2010, 11:38 PM
ESPN Analysts are calling him Picasso.

DieHardColtsfan
10-12-2010, 11:39 PM
He's no El Duque.

lavell12
10-12-2010, 11:49 PM
This is why the Rangers needed to win 3 or 4 so they could throw Lee in game one. He might not be able to pitch until game 3 against the Yanks. Well if the Rangers do win one of the first two the Yanks are in deep but it will be tough for the Rangers to win one of the first two.

More-Than-Most
10-12-2010, 11:52 PM
Lee got a big strike zone tonight in my opinion. They were all close even some of his misses but he got a ton of called strikes. On that note he is amazing. After Halladay takes out Timmy he will than take out the monster that is Lee.

More-Than-Most
10-12-2010, 11:53 PM
Also the Yankees are getting a huge break. If this guy was going 3 times in the next series I think the rangers would win it. Him only going twice will hurt them.

Gigantes4Life
10-12-2010, 11:59 PM
Lee got a big strike zone tonight in my opinion. They were all close even some of his misses but he got a ton of called strikes. On that note he is amazing. After Halladay takes out Timmy he will than take out the monster that is Lee.

lulz

Lee's K/BB rate>Lincecum's>Halladay's

Halladay's a bum with that 8:1 ****. Lincecum's at 14:1, and Lee's at infinity.

Havoc Wreaker
10-13-2010, 12:16 AM
lulz

Lee's K/BB rate>Lincecum's>Halladay's

Halladay's a bum with that 8:1 ****. Lincecum's at 14:1, and Lee's at infinity.
Perfect Game + No Hitter in PostSeason > All

TheNatural
10-13-2010, 12:37 AM
I'd say they are all about equal.

We are talking about a postseason with arguably the greatest pitching performances ever.

If it only gets better from here, I'm going to have a heart attack.

SouthSideRookie
10-13-2010, 12:39 AM
the real question is, how much are the yankees going to throw at him?
same as CC?
more than CC?
little less than CC?


but yeah, he's remarkable. amazing control.

He's going to be a Yankee regardless of how far the Rangers advance. The Yankess want him bad and him and CC are really good friends.

Gigantes4Life
10-13-2010, 12:49 AM
Perfect Game + No Hitter in PostSeason > All

Yeah but it wasn't in the AL thus it was insignificant. I could do that.

raidersrock99
10-13-2010, 12:56 AM
rangers giants world seriesssss!

iggypop123
10-13-2010, 12:58 AM
lee= left handed maddux

Jack of Blades
10-13-2010, 01:02 AM
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac251/Xylene_Productions/Comewithmeifyouwanttowin.gif

Lincecum4CY
10-13-2010, 01:19 AM
i wish cliff lee could pitch 4 games in a row and sweep NY

either way TEXAS BEAT NY BEAT NY BEAT NY

MelanconMadness
10-13-2010, 01:47 AM
After what happened with the Yankees trade for Lee this past July, I wouldnt be surprised if the Yankees threw 400 million at him and said, this is what happens when teams screw us out of trades. Hes 99.9999% a Yankee, hes on loan for one more start with the Rangers

Gigantes4Life
10-13-2010, 01:49 AM
If they throw 400 million I would laugh my *** off when it backfires.

SouljahPhil...
10-13-2010, 02:42 AM
Yes indeed! Cliff ****ING Lee is clutch!

I think he gets 4 guaranteed years with 20-25/year

plus mutual option with buy outs for 2 more years...I just think with his age nobody is gonna offer him long years..

bullocks
10-13-2010, 03:46 AM
Also the Yankees are getting a huge break. If this guy was going 3 times in the next series I think the rangers would win it. Him only going twice will hurt them.

Yah because he pitched 3 times against the Yankees and all. He's never pitched on 3 days rest. Highly doubtfull even if he pitched game 1 that he's pitch 3 times. Somehow people forget this.

More-Than-Most
10-13-2010, 03:59 AM
Yah because he pitched 3 times against the Yankees and all. He's never pitched on 3 days rest. Highly doubtfull even if he pitched game 1 that he's pitch 3 times. Somehow people forget this.

Just because he hasn't pitched on 3 days rest doesn't mean he cant or wont. He was fully willing to do it for the Phillies last year but Manuel went another route. He would take the ball as many times in a series as asked.

MelanconMadness
10-13-2010, 04:39 AM
He will go on 3 days rest. Theres no doubt, UNLESS they win game 1.

Gunzito22
10-13-2010, 01:28 PM
ESPN Analysts are calling him Picasso.

ESPN analysts eat Elmers Glue and ride short buses... just sayin

el_primo_nano
10-13-2010, 01:53 PM
He is Albert Pujols' distant cousin

pumz89
10-13-2010, 01:56 PM
http://jztailgate.blogspot.com/

Great article by Albert Chen of Sports Illustrated

Ezio
10-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Cliff Lee is monster and yeah he will most likely go the New York market.

ChaseHamels
10-13-2010, 02:54 PM
Lee is a fantastic pitcher...wish we could have kept him.
(sidenote: post padding? why would anyone ever care about how many posts they have?)

cmstophe
10-19-2010, 10:41 AM
Lee is a fantastic pitcher...wish we could have kept him.
(sidenote: post padding? why would anyone ever care about how many posts they have?)

lol, you wish YOU could have kept him?

Me too.

Signed,
Indians fans

OneTuzSea
10-19-2010, 10:45 AM
lol, you wish YOU could have kept him?

Me too.

Signed,
Indians fans

It has to suck being an Indians fan and seeing Lee and Sebathia in the WS one year and the ALCS the next. :laugh2:

cmstophe
10-19-2010, 11:22 AM
It has to suck being an Indians fan and seeing Lee and Sebathia in the WS one year and the ALCS the next. :laugh2:

You bet it does.

But, that's MLB for ya! :rolleyes: Completely, 100% honest, fair, and balanced!

Double_R
10-19-2010, 11:27 AM
I know there are already a few threads talking about Cliff Lee, but I didn't see any that talked about how crazy his numbers are.

Lee improved to 3-0 this postseason with a 0.75 ERA, and he has 34 strikeouts and one walk in 24 innings. He hasn't allowed a run in his past 14 innings.

He allowed his first walk after 28 strikeouts(playoff record), previous record 17 (Josh Beckett)

Mr. Automatic improved to 7-0 with a 1.26 ERA in eight postseason starts. Three of those wins have come against the power-packed Yankees, including two in last year's World Series for Philadelphia.

Cliff Lee is the fourth pitcher with at least 13 strikeouts while allowing two hits or fewer in a postseason game.

Cliff Lee's current postseason ERA is 1.26, third-best for any pitcher with a minimum of five starts, trailing only Sandy Koufax (0.95) and Christy Mathewson (1.06).

Cliff Lee is the third pitcher to start his postseason career with a 7-0 record, joining Orlando Hernandez (8-0) and Orel Hershiser (7-0)

Cliff Lee tied Bob Gibson's record of consecutive 10+ K games in postseason with 3 (Gibson did it in 1967-1968) Lee is the first pitcher with 3 straight 10+ K games in the same postseason.

Cliff Lee has his 5th career postseason game with at least 10 strikeouts, tied with Randy Johnson and Bob Gibson for the most all-time.

He has been so spectacular that he is putting himself on a whole new level. I have never been so excited about watching a guy pitch on a team that I could care less about. What he is doing is absolutely awesome.

Dark Donnie
10-19-2010, 11:29 AM
He was on this level last year as well. Guy shows up in the playoffs.

catman
10-19-2010, 11:30 AM
He has the most wins without a loss in the post-season in MLB history. He passed Lefty Gomez for the top spot.

Double_R
10-19-2010, 11:43 AM
He was on this level last year as well. Guy shows up in the playoffs.

I know, it's awesome... I don't like the Rangers or the Phillies, but watched every game Lee has pitched in like they were my favorite teams... His pinpoint pitching is one of the most exciting things in baseball for me over the last 2 years.

jezzyman05
10-19-2010, 12:03 PM
the real question is, how much are the yankees going to throw at him?
same as CC?
more than CC?
little less than CC?


but yeah, he's remarkable. amazing control.
I can honestly say that I dont thin the yankees can afford him....maybe im wrong

hype707
10-19-2010, 12:06 PM
LEE = Best pitcher in baseball

jezzyman05
10-19-2010, 12:11 PM
LEE = Best pitcher in baseball

I'm not arguing with that he is playing lights out baseball right now and could very well carry the Rangers to a World Series Crown, although the phillies will be tough, I really don't see how the giants can beat them in a 7 game series

hype707
10-19-2010, 12:17 PM
I'm not arguing with that he is playing lights out baseball right now and could very well carry the Rangers to a World Series Crown, although the phillies will be tough, I really don't see how the giants can beat them in a 7 game series

kinda like the phils last years vs the yanks

jezzyman05
10-19-2010, 12:19 PM
kinda like the phils last years vs the yanks


ya the phils gave a great series but I will admit the yankees were very solid last year and the phils were the underdog, but out side of Cliff Lee, with Hamels playing bad the phils really had no one else to pitch for them..now they have Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels is playing great so a much better pitching, still ugly bullpen, but this phllies team is alot better than last year

hype707
10-19-2010, 12:27 PM
Phils are the best i dont think they will lose another game this year.

1903
10-19-2010, 12:42 PM
Phils are the best i dont think they will lose another game this year.

My sarcasm meter broke.

hype707
10-19-2010, 01:05 PM
you can use mine

theslick1
10-19-2010, 01:08 PM
I can honestly say that I dont think the yankees can afford him....maybe im wrong

If they can't, who can?

Cheezombie
10-19-2010, 02:28 PM
Cliff Lee is my new favorite pitcher

jezzyman05
10-19-2010, 02:36 PM
If they can't, who can?


not saying that they can't afford Lee, but with CC,Lee and Burnett thats what around 60 million for 3 pitchers

MinnesnowtaWild
10-19-2010, 02:41 PM
My sarcasm meter broke.

Why don't you update your sig to the ALCS? Or would that be embarrassing?


Yankees Rotation (ALCS) 0-2

Sabathia: 0-0, 11.25 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 4 BB, 5 R

Hughes: 0-1, 15.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 3 BB, 7 R

Pettitte: 0-1, 2.57 ERA, 7 IP, 5 K, 0 BB, 2 R

1903
10-19-2010, 03:10 PM
Why don't you update your sig to the ALCS? Or would that be embarrassing?


Yankees Rotation (ALCS) 0-2

Sabathia: 0-0, 11.25 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 4 BB, 5 R

Hughes: 0-1, 15.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 3 BB, 7 R

Pettitte: 0-1, 2.57 ERA, 7 IP, 5 K, 0 BB, 2 R

I bet you only said that because you don't want to see what the Yankees did to the Twins :p. Did not update out of laziness, same reason why I forgot to update my Phil Hughes sig at times even after a couple of wins.

x23cbru24x
10-19-2010, 03:38 PM
i am a huge yankee fan but he is the newcomming of Jesus Christ

MDfootball36
10-19-2010, 03:39 PM
The better he pitches the greater the chance of him becoming a Yankee.

Madtown22
10-19-2010, 03:52 PM
Cliff Lee keeps adding millions for every strike out

Pinstripe pride
10-19-2010, 03:55 PM
Why don't you update your sig to the ALCS? Or would that be embarrassing?


Yankees Rotation (ALCS) 0-2

Sabathia: 0-0, 11.25 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 4 BB, 5 R

Hughes: 0-1, 15.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 3 BB, 7 R

Pettitte: 0-1, 2.57 ERA, 7 IP, 5 K, 0 BB, 2 R

why don't you update your you show the twins. here you go.....



Liriano 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R

Pavano 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R

Duensing 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R

Madtown22
10-19-2010, 04:08 PM
Why don't you update your sig to the ALCS? Or would that be embarrassing?


Yankees Rotation (ALCS) 0-2

Sabathia: 0-0, 11.25 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 4 BB, 5 R

Hughes: 0-1, 15.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 3 BB, 7 R

Pettitte: 0-1, 2.57 ERA, 7 IP, 5 K, 0 BB, 2 R

___________________

Burnett will fit right in!

ATL#22
10-19-2010, 04:14 PM
I love how any article against the Yankees gets locked immediately **** the Yankees and their ***** fans.

1903
10-19-2010, 04:29 PM
I love how any article against the Yankees gets locked immediately **** the Yankees and their ***** fans.

Wow, still bitter about 1996 and 1999. :laugh2:

MinnesnowtaWild
10-19-2010, 05:22 PM
I bet you only said that because you don't want to see what the Yankees did to the Twins :p. Did not update out of laziness, same reason why I forgot to update my Phil Hughes sig at times even after a couple of wins.

Well then there you go...it is all yours. I did it for you just in case you forgot to update.

:clap:

MinnesnowtaWild
10-19-2010, 05:23 PM
And making fun of the Twins just makes your old sig look even weaker since you were playing the inferior Twins.

ATL#22
10-19-2010, 06:44 PM
Wow, still bitter about 1996 and 1999. :laugh2:

Nope all was forgiven when your payroll was 200 million and you still missed the playoffs. :clap::silly:

metsfan4ever
10-19-2010, 07:08 PM
Nope all was forgiven when your payroll was 200 million and you still missed the playoffs. :clap::silly:

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

theslick1
10-19-2010, 07:40 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

140M and yet another sub-.500 finish. Go ahead and clap Met fan.

Nick the Savior
10-19-2010, 07:43 PM
Hey yankee fans you know whats good for being burned by lee?
if you lick my butthole...
Dale: "snaps"

el_primo_nano
10-19-2010, 07:58 PM
tip my cap to that man. Class

samevans7
10-19-2010, 08:17 PM
why make fun of the yanks for winning? i'll they've done is won 20+ more World Series championships than any other franchise in the MLB. If they spend $200 mill and win a WS, then other teams should try that too.

And the Yankees missing out on the playoffs is a little overstreched. They are in the same division as Boston and TB. One team has to miss the playoffs.

Boston missed this year, and had an insanely good record for the amount of injuries.
Plus, if they werent in the AL East, where they played 36 games against the top 2 teams in the MLB this year, they woulda gotten 100 wins, even with the injuries

ATL#22
10-19-2010, 10:36 PM
why make fun of the yanks for winning? i'll they've done is won 20+ more World Series championships than any other franchise in the MLB. If they spend $200 mill and win a WS, then other teams should try that too.

And the Yankees missing out on the playoffs is a little overstreched. They are in the same division as Boston and TB. One team has to miss the playoffs.

Boston missed this year, and had an insanely good record for the amount of injuries.
Plus, if they werent in the AL East, where they played 36 games against the top 2 teams in the MLB this year, they woulda gotten 100 wins, even with the injuries

Being in the same division as TB isn't an excuse for missing the playoffs since they spend about 1/4 of what the yankees do.

MinnesnowtaWild
10-20-2010, 04:00 AM
Updated:

Yankees Rotation (ALCS) 0-3

Sabathia: 0-0, 11.25 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 4 BB, 5 R

Hughes: 0-1, 15.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 3 BB, 7 R

Pettitte: 0-1, 2.57 ERA, 7 IP, 5 K, 0 BB, 2 R

Burnett: 0-1, 7.50 ERA, 6 IP, 4K, 3 BB, 5 R

samevans7
10-20-2010, 06:54 AM
Being in the same division as TB isn't an excuse for missing the playoffs since they spend about 1/4 of what the yankees do.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm:

The Rays have home grown their players, like Longoria, and Price, and Crawford, and they are great.

Crawford isn't coming back, but they have minor league replacements for him.


TB is the "new version" of the Yankees. Instead of buying for good players, they buy like nobody, and their farm players become beasts.


Saying TB isn't good because they have a low payroll (which is higher than the Texas Rangers' payroll, who are 1 win away from the World Series) is retarted.

The Braves have $48,277,778 less than the Mets. So are the Braves not good because the Mets have 1.5 times the payroll of the Braves? :facepalm:

netsgiantsyanks
10-20-2010, 07:40 AM
^^ finally, a non yankee fan who understands. :clap:

Pinstripe pride
10-20-2010, 10:29 AM
Updated:

Yankees Rotation (ALCS) 0-3

Sabathia: 0-0, 11.25 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 4 BB, 5 R

Hughes: 0-1, 15.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 K, 3 BB, 7 R

Pettitte: 0-1, 2.57 ERA, 7 IP, 5 K, 0 BB, 2 R

Burnett: 0-1, 7.50 ERA, 6 IP, 4K, 3 BB, 5 R

updated:

twins rotation (ALCS) 0-0

Liriano 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R

Pavano 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R

Duensing 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R

Baker 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 IP, 0 K, 0 BB, 0 R