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Forbo
10-09-2010, 10:06 PM
It seems as though there will be no more big additions before the start of the season. What do your playoff rankings look like?

Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Washigton Wizards
7. Milwakuee Bucks
8. New Jersey Nets



Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Denver Nuggets
4. OKC Thunder
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Utah Jazz
8. Memphis Grizzles

nyyfan4life
10-09-2010, 10:28 PM
Houston Rockets will be a top 4 team in the West, IMO.

LeBitteNoir
10-09-2010, 10:43 PM
Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Milwakuee Bucks
5. Chicago Bulls
6. Atlanta Hawks
7. Washigton Wizards
8. Indiana Pacers



Western Confrence

1. OKC Thunder
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Los Angeles Lakers
4. Denver Nuggets
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Houston Rockets
8. Memphis Grizzles

footballer2369
10-09-2010, 11:17 PM
4. bulls/hawks
5. hawks/bulls
6. bucks
7. knicks
8. pacers

ShaqShoes
10-09-2010, 11:23 PM
Did we not have voting for seedings and then playoffs for the past month and a half??

jerellh528
10-10-2010, 07:21 PM
East:
1. Boston Celtics
2. Orlando Magic
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Miami Heat
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwaukee Bucks
7. New York Knicks
8. Charlotte Bobcats



West:
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. OKC Thunder
4. Denver Nuggets
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Houston Rockets
8. Pheonix Suns

goose15
10-10-2010, 08:06 PM
1 Heat
2 Celtics
3 Magic
4 Bulls
5 Hawks
6 Knicks
7 Bucks
8 Bobcats

1 Lakers
2 Thunder
3 Mavs
4 Nuggets
5 Blazers
6 Spurs
7 Jazz
8 Grizz

jd_azsportsfan
10-10-2010, 08:37 PM
wow no love for the suns???????????


East
Orlando
Miami
Bulls
Boston
Atlanta
Bucks
Bobcats
Knicks


West
Lakers
Thunder
Suns
Mavs
Nuggets
Jazz
Spurs
Blazers

tredigs
10-10-2010, 09:01 PM
The NBA forum just did a huge, multi-month poll on each seed individually for both conferences; followed by threads that polled the projected winner of each series. The thread (and the links to each individual thread where it was voted on and discussed ad nauseam are stickied at the top of the forum page).

I don't know if you guys knew that, but there's really no need for this thread is there?

kjoke
10-10-2010, 09:01 PM
heat
orlando
celtics
Atlanta
bucks
bulls
bobcats
knicks

thunder
suns
lakers
spurs
mavs
blazer
jazz
nuggets

TylerSL
10-10-2010, 09:26 PM
East
1.Heat
2.Magic
3.C's
4.Bucks
5.Bulls
6.Hawks
7.Knicks
8.Pistons

West
1.Lakers
2.Mavs
3.Blazers (healthy)
4.Spurs
5.OKC
6.Nuggets (with Melo)
7.Jazz
8.Suns

East
Heat>Pistons in 4
Orlando>New York in 5
Boston>Hawks in 5
Bucks>Bulls in 7

Heat>Bucks in 4
Boston>Orlando in 5

Heat>Boston in 6

West
Lakers>Suns in 5
Mavs>Jazz in 7
Blazers (healthy)>Nuggets (with Melo) in 6
Spurs>OKC in 7

Lakers>Spurs in 6
Blazers (healthy)>Mavs in 6

Lakers>Blazers (healthy) in 7

NBA Finals
Heat>Lakers in 6.

Avenged
10-10-2010, 09:28 PM
We've done rankings so many times in the last couple of months!

Lakers vs. Heat/Celtics is what it will come down to in my opinion. I'll leave it at that.

BillyHoyle35
10-10-2010, 09:45 PM
East:
1 Heat
2 Celtics
3 Magic
4 Bulls
5 Bucks
6 Hawks
7 Knicks
8 Bobcats

West:
1 Lakers
2 Mavericks
3 Thunder
4 Jazz
5 Blazers
6 Spurs
7 Nuggets
8 Rockets

bal_ravens
10-10-2010, 10:13 PM
We've done rankings so many times in the last couple of months!

Lakers vs. Heat/Celtics is what it will come down to in my opinion. I'll leave it at that.

Bold prediction right there! lol

LeBitteNoir
10-11-2010, 02:15 AM
Thunder vs. Heat, baby! Oh yeah!

JOSKOMANG4
10-11-2010, 09:15 AM
East:

1) Heat
2) Magic
3) Celtics
4) Hawks
5) Bulls
6) Bucks
7) Wizards
8) Cavs

West:

1) Lakers
2) Mavs
3) Thunder
4) Nuggets(w/Melo)
5) Jazz
6) Spurs
7) Blazers
8) Grizzles

Playoffs:

Rd 1:

Heat sweep Cavs
Magic 4-2 over wizards
Celtics 4-3 over Bucks
Hawks 4-2 over Bulls
Lakers 4-1 over Grizzles
Mavs 4-0 over Blazers
Thunder 4-2 over Spurs
Nuggets 4-2 over Jazz

Rd 2:

Heat 4-2 over Hawks
Magic 4-1 over Celtics
Lakers 4-2 over Nuggets
Thunder 4-3 over Mavs

Semi's:

Lakers 4-2 over Thunder
Magic 4-2 over Heat

Finals:

Magic over Lakers 4-2

todu82
10-11-2010, 09:33 AM
East

1) Miami
2) Orlando
3) Boston
4) Chicago
5) Atlanta
6) Milwaukee
7) New York
8) Charlotte

West

1) L.A. Lakers
2) Oklahoma City
3) Dallas
4) Portland
5) Denver
6) Utah
7) San Antonio
8) Houston

jkcronyn
10-11-2010, 10:15 AM
idk about the magic, it's probably their last year where they will be really relevant. stan van is the worst coach in the nba and if the magic had a doc rivers or a very disciplined coach we'd see the magic in the finals for the past 3 years but idk, this year they kind of need to implode so they can get a new coach and sign a nice piece in free agency. like tayshaun prince or something along those lines

mightybosstone
10-11-2010, 10:21 AM
East
1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Milwaukee
5. Chicago
6. Atlanta
7. Charlotte
8. New York

West
1. L.A. Lakers
2. Portland
3. Oklahoma City
4. Houston
5. Dallas
6. Denver
7. San Antonio
8. Utah

saintl2510
10-11-2010, 10:23 AM
knicks will be the 5th best team in the east this season

mightybosstone
10-11-2010, 10:29 AM
knicks will be the 5th best team in the east this season

No. They are not better than Miami, Orlando, Boston, Chicago, Milwaukee or Atlanta. If they make the playoffs in an improved Eastern Conference, then they'll be doing well, but I'd be shocked if they were better than the 7th or 8th seed.

Ace33Bone
10-11-2010, 11:13 AM
IMO

Eastern Confrence

1. Boston Celtics
2. Miami Heat
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Washigton Wizards
7. Milwakuee Bucks
8. New York Knicks



Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. OKC Thunder
4. San Antonio Spurs
5. Denver Nuggets
6. Utah Jazz
7. Portland Trailblazers
8. Phoenix Suns

mightybosstone
10-11-2010, 11:29 AM
A couple of things I've noticed. In the West, why so much Rockets hate and Suns love? The Suns lose their best player and the Rockets get theirs back. In the East, why do people see the Wizards as a playoff team and not give the Bucks more credit? The Bucks should be insanely good this year if Bogut stays healthy.

j-bay
10-11-2010, 11:34 AM
A couple of things I've noticed. In the West, why so much Rockets hate and Suns love? The Suns lose their best player and the Rockets get theirs back. In the East, why do people see the Wizards as a playoff team and not give the Bucks more credit? The Bucks should be insanely good this year if Bogut stays healthy.

the wizards have the pieces have you seen their roster alot of there guys had mor the 12 points a game and with wall coming in and arenas coming back its just going to get better

mightybosstone
10-11-2010, 11:45 AM
the wizards have the pieces have you seen their roster alot of there guys had mor the 12 points a game and with wall coming in and arenas coming back its just going to get better

For them to make the playoffs, Arenas has to guarantee a full season of staying healthy without getting into trouble. Even IF that happens, I see at least six teams that are, without a doubt, better than Washington. I see them likely fighting at the bottom with Charlotte, New York and a couple of other teams for the last couple of playoff spots.

Edit: To be fair, I think the Wizards have a very strong future with Wall, Blatche and McGee, but their front court defense is suspect and I think they're a year away from contending.

homestarunner93
10-11-2010, 12:10 PM
Eastern Conference

1. Miami heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwaukee Bucks
7. Charlotte Bobcats
8. New York Knicks



Western Conference
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Portland Trailblazers
4. OKC Thunder
5. San Antonio Spurs
6. Denver Nuggets
7. Utah Jazz
8. Houston Rockts

saintdrew
10-11-2010, 12:30 PM
East:

1. Orlando Magic
2. Miami Heat
3. Boston Celtics
4. Atlanta Hawks
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Chicago Bulls
7. New Jersey Nets
8. New York Knicks

West:

1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Utah Jazz
3. San Antonio Spurs
4. Oklahoma City Thunder
5. Dallas Mavericks
6. Phoenix Suns
7. Memphis Grizzlies
8. Portland Trail Blazers

PippensBulls
10-11-2010, 02:55 PM
East

1. Cavs
2. Celtics
3. Magic
4. Bulls
5. Hawks
6. Bobcats
7. Bucks
8. Cavaliers

West

1. Lakers
2. Mavericks
3. Thunder
4. Jazz
5. Nuggets
6. Blazers
7. Spurs
8. Suns

FadeAwayLikeMJ
10-11-2010, 03:15 PM
It seems as though there will be no more big additions before the start of the season. What do your playoff rankings look like?

Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Washigton Wizards
7. Milwakuee Bucks
8. New Jersey Nets



Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Denver Nuggets
4. OKC Thunder
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Utah Jazz
8. Memphis Grizzles

co-sign Eastern Conference

BUT with the Western Conference... if Melo gets traded, Nuggets are no longer contenders IMO

Sadds The Gr8
10-11-2010, 03:20 PM
The NBA forum just did a huge, multi-month poll on each seed individually for both conferences; followed by threads that polled the projected winner of each series. The thread (and the links to each individual thread where it was voted on and discussed ad nauseam are stickied at the top of the forum page).

I don't know if you guys knew that, but there's really no need for this thread is there?

this

oval57sanch
10-11-2010, 04:07 PM
Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Milwakuee Bucks
5. Chicago Bulls
6. Atlanta Hawks
7. Washigton Wizards
8. Indiana Pacers



Western Confrence

1. OKC Thunder
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Los Angeles Lakers
4. Denver Nuggets
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Houston Rockets
8. Memphis Grizzles

what the hell are you smokin???

John Walls Era
10-11-2010, 04:36 PM
East
1)Lakers
2)Thunder
3)Mavs
4)Jazz
5)Blazers
6)Rockets
7 & 8)Spurs/Suns/Nuggets (Melo will probably be traded; top 5 if hes not)

East
1)Heat
2)Magic
3)Celtics
4)Bulls (Could be at 2 or 3 if Boozer started the season at 100%)
5)Hawks
6)Bucks
7 & 8)Knicks/Nets/76ers/Wizards (Bobcats don't make it this year)

mightybosstone
10-11-2010, 04:38 PM
what the hell are you smokin???

I know, right? Having the Lakers in the playoffs AT ALL is a complete joke!

Sox Appeal
10-11-2010, 04:42 PM
1. Miami Heat
2. Orlando Magic
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Boston Celtics
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Atlanta Hawks
7. Charlotte Bobcats
8. Washington Wizards

1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Portland Trailblazers
4. Dallas Mavericks
5. Utah Jazz
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Houston Rockets
8. Denver Nuggets

sep11ie
10-11-2010, 04:48 PM
1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwakuee Bucks
7. Knicks
8. Bobcats


WEST

1. Lakers (Lets face it, till someone knocks them off their throne, they belong there)
2. Rockets (Lil bit of a homer pick, but I'll put them against any team in the league if all the chips fall in place.)
3. Mavs (They got bigger and will have Butler for a whole season, makes them very tough to beat.)
4. Thunder (Durant and Westy are beasts, but I think lack of rebounding/big man will hurt them.)
5. Denver (Keeping them there unless Melo is gone.)
6. Jazz (DWill, nuff said.)
7. Spurs (Age really starting to show.)
8. Suns (Any team with Nash has a shot.)

mightybosstone
10-11-2010, 04:55 PM
1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwakuee Bucks
7. Knicks
8. Bobcats


WEST

1. Lakers (Lets face it, till someone knocks them off their throne, they belong there)
2. Rockets (Lil bit of a homer pick, but I'll put them against any team in the league if all the chips fall in place.)
3. Mavs (They got bigger and will have Butler for a whole season, makes them very tough to beat.)
4. Thunder (Durant and Westy are beasts, but I think lack of rebounding/big man will hurt them.)
5. Denver (Keeping them there unless Melo is gone.)
6. Jazz (DWill, nuff said.)
7. Spurs (Age really starting to show.)
8. Suns (Any team with Nash has a shot.)
Sep, I'm assuming this was an accident, but surely you think the Blazers will make the playoffs?

sep11ie
10-11-2010, 05:05 PM
Dammit, I knew I was leaving someone out. I'd put them between 3-5, knock the Suns out.

Forbo
10-11-2010, 06:35 PM
A couple of things I've noticed. In the West, why so much Rockets hate and Suns love? The Suns lose their best player and the Rockets get theirs back. In the East, why do people see the Wizards as a playoff team and not give the Bucks more credit? The Bucks should be insanely good this year if Bogut stays healthy.

Bucks will be worst, they will never build that good of chemistry again they lost 8 players. Bogut wont be 100 percent, I might not even consider them a playoff team.

NYYCowboys
10-11-2010, 06:58 PM
East

1. Orlando
2. Miami
3. Boston
4. Chicago
5. Milwaukee
6. New York
7. Atlanta
8. Charlotte

West

1. Lakers
2. Thunder
3. Mavs
4. Blazers
5. Jazz
6. Spurs
7. Suns
8. Nuggets

Kashmir13579
10-11-2010, 07:40 PM
Forbo, your lists are shite. complete and total shite.

Kashmir13579
10-11-2010, 07:44 PM
No. They are not better than Miami, Orlando, Boston, Chicago, Milwaukee or Atlanta. If they make the playoffs in an improved Eastern Conference, then they'll be doing well, but I'd be shocked if they were better than the 7th or 8th seed.

you don't know that. thats your opinion. nobody knows yet. chicago hasn't yet proven anything. they were the 8th seed last year (BARELY). atlanta overachieved last season. and milwaukee was a cinderella team so who knows if they will live up to it again.

Forbo
10-11-2010, 07:51 PM
Forbo, your lists are shite. complete and total shite.

Why thank you! :)
Im sorry I didnt include the Knicks, I thought about it then laughed. No chance the New York Knicks make the playoffs. They will have a better record than Bobcats though.

NYYCowboys
10-11-2010, 07:58 PM
Why thank you! :)
Im sorry I didnt include the Knicks, I thought about it then laughed. No chance the New York Knicks make the playoffs. They will have a better record than Bobcats though.

I would sig bet you but you don't even have a sig.

Forbo
10-11-2010, 07:59 PM
I would sig bet you but you don't even have a sig.

I dont know how to make one :(

RocketsRule
10-11-2010, 09:30 PM
It seems as though there will be no more big additions before the start of the season. What do your playoff rankings look like?

Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Washigton Wizards
7. Milwakuee Bucks
8. New Jersey Nets



Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Denver Nuggets
4. OKC Thunder
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Utah Jazz
8. Memphis Grizzles

I'm baffled that the Rockets do not make the playoffs in your rankings. I know I am biased, but they are a much improved team from last year. And they still were above .500 last season.

My rankings:

Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwaukee Bucks
7. New York Knicks
8. Charlotte Bobcats



Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. OKC Thunder
3. Dallas Mavericks
4. Houston Rockets
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Utah Jazz
8. Denver Nuggets (Don't really trust them)

4-7 in the West is interchangeable, while I'd say that the number 7 and 8 seeds are wide open in the East.

gbrl
10-11-2010, 09:43 PM
East

1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Chicago
5. Atlanta
6. Milwaukee
7. Charlotte
8. Indiana

West

1. Lakers
2. Thunder
3. Mavs
4. Blazers
5. Jazz
6. Spurs
7. Rockets
8. Nuggets

Forbo
10-11-2010, 10:41 PM
I'm baffled that the Rockets do not make the playoffs in your rankings. I know I am biased, but they are a much improved team from last year. And they still were above .500 last season.

My rankings:

Eastern Confrence

1. Miami Heat
2. Boston Celtics
3. Orlando Magic
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwaukee Bucks
7. New York Knicks
8. Charlotte Bobcats



Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. OKC Thunder
3. Dallas Mavericks
4. Houston Rockets
5. Portland Trailblazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Utah Jazz
8. Denver Nuggets (Don't really trust them)

4-7 in the West is interchangeable, while I'd say that the number 7 and 8 seeds are wide open in the East.


I mean they were good last year and I know Houston fans dont think that Ariza or Tmac helped but atleast they have talent. In the 4 team trade I feel Houston got robbed with Courtney Lee. Still a .500 team I just dont really see it.

Kashmir13579
10-11-2010, 10:43 PM
Why thank you! :)
Im sorry I didnt include the Knicks, I thought about it then laughed. No chance the New York Knicks make the playoffs. They will have a better record than Bobcats though.

thats almost as funny as your playoff seed predictions.

Forbo
10-11-2010, 10:53 PM
thats almost as funny as your playoff seed predictions.

I know your a homer but look at it like this
New Additions

Raymond Felton- Loser in terms of playing, he was on a bad team for years and got lucky making the playoffs last year. Got outplayed by TD.
Kelenna Azubuike - going to be hurt most of the year
Anthony Randolph - was benched on a bad team, dont give me the future hall of fame bs.
Roger Mason- had a terrible year last year and was wide open a lot.
Ronny Turiaf- dont need to explain nothing special
Timofey Mozgov- didnt look to good in pre season, doubt he adjusts to NBA.
Amare- best player you got, over paid but he is good. Going to be what David Lee did last year a bit of an upgrade but dont see him being a guy that takes Knicks to more wins.

Loses
Al Harrigton- Put up 20 pts for you guys
Chris Duhon - Feltons better but Duhons more of a true pg
Larry Hughes- decent SG
David Lee- was an all star last year put up 20 pts 10 rbs

Thats about 50 pts you lose when losing those guys.
Now the guys you got is about 24 for Amare, 10 for Felton and thats about it. How can you honestly say they make the playoffs? Dont give me this Gallo is going to help, he is alright on a team that just ran the ball and played zero D.

TylerSL
10-11-2010, 11:10 PM
I would sig bet you but you don't even have a sig.

you have a problem with Miami signing Lebron and Bosh and resigning Wade yet you're a Yankees fan LOL :laugh:

hypocrite much??

talking about the link under your sig.....

MrFastBreak
10-12-2010, 01:05 AM
wow no love for the suns???????????


East
Orlando
Miami
Bulls
Boston
Atlanta
Bucks
Bobcats
Knicks


West
Lakers
Thunder
Suns
Mavs
Nuggets
Jazz
Spurs
Blazers

They obviously believe the loss of STAT results in regression. And you've severely underrated Portland. Heres the very same team that took your Suns to 6 games sans Oden with B Roy missing 3 of 6 (wasnt even respected to return). And those arent even half of their injury woes. They still managed to win 50 in a tough WC with several guys injured for the majority of the season.

k24springs
10-12-2010, 01:26 AM
Eastern Conference
1. Miami Heat
2. Orlando Magic
3. Boston Celtics
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwaukee Bucks
7. New York Knicks
8. Charlotte Bobcats

Western Conference
1. LA Lakers
2. Portland Trail Blazers (if somehow that team can stay healthy they have the size to matchup with LA)
3. Oklahoma City Thunder
4. Dallas Mavericks
5. Houston Rockets (dont sleep on these guys they play hard and very physical they won 50 games with Chuck Hayes at center for most of the year but, it all depends on Yao's health because if he stays upright they will be a tough out)
6. San Antonio Spurs
7. Denver Nuggets (I would've had them out of the playoffs if they dont trade Melo)
8. Memphis Grizzlies (I think the young Grizz will finally breakthrough this year)

These are just early playoff predictions so please chill out and dont trip because I am entitled to my opinion.

RocketsRule
10-12-2010, 01:28 AM
I mean they were good last year and I know Houston fans dont think that Ariza or Tmac helped but atleast they have talent. In the 4 team trade I feel Houston got robbed with Courtney Lee. Still a .500 team I just dont really see it.

Tracy McGrady did absolutely nothing when he played for us. Zero.

Ariza was forced play a role that he was not comfortable with. We tried to make him a scorer, a guy who can create off the dribble, something that he was not. He is much more comfortable slashing to the rim for easy dunks or hitting wide open three pointers with his feet set. So to get Courtney Lee, an explosive scorer with loads of potential, and to shed some salary at the same time sounds pretty good for a misfit.

But back to the this season, I still think we won't have too much trouble making the playoffs. A healthy Yao, even if he does not play major minutes, will make quite an impact on both ends of the floor. Martin also has a full training camp underneath his belt and the progression of young players like Brooks, Budinger, and Hill and addition of players like Miller and Lee point towards a great season.

So basically, I respectfully disagree with your assessment.

Fireworld
10-12-2010, 01:42 AM
heat
orlando
celtics
Atlanta
bucks
bulls
bobcats
knicks

thunder
suns
lakers
spurs
mavs
blazer
jazz
nuggets

Putting the Suns in front of the Lakers lets me know 1 of either facts, you don't know anything about Basketball, or you're a Laker hater... You mad?

No disrespect to the Suns, but they're not a second seed team and they know that. 4-5 tops. Good luck. I want to see the Suns do well after STAT bailed.

SouthSideRookie
10-12-2010, 01:54 AM
I mean they were good last year and I know Houston fans dont think that Ariza or Tmac helped but atleast they have talent. In the 4 team trade I feel Houston got robbed with Courtney Lee. Still a .500 team I just dont really see it.

:facepalm:

NYYCowboys
10-12-2010, 10:45 PM
you have a problem with Miami signing Lebron and Bosh and resigning Wade yet you're a Yankees fan LOL :laugh:

hypocrite much??

talking about the link under your sig.....

I don't have a problem with them signing all of them. Do I like it? No, but I'm not gonna cry about it like people do about the Yankees. The link on the bottom of my sig I just think is funny.

NYsFinest
10-12-2010, 11:33 PM
I know your a homer but look at it like this
New Additions

Raymond Felton- Loser in terms of playing, he was on a bad team for years and got lucky making the playoffs last year. Got outplayed by TD.
Kelenna Azubuike - going to be hurt most of the year
Anthony Randolph - was benched on a bad team, dont give me the future hall of fame bs.
Roger Mason- had a terrible year last year and was wide open a lot.
Ronny Turiaf- dont need to explain nothing special
Timofey Mozgov- didnt look to good in pre season, doubt he adjusts to NBA.
Amare- best player you got, over paid but he is good. Going to be what David Lee did last year a bit of an upgrade but dont see him being a guy that takes Knicks to more wins.

Loses
Al Harrigton- Put up 20 pts for you guys
Chris Duhon - Feltons better but Duhons more of a true pg
Larry Hughes- decent SG
David Lee- was an all star last year put up 20 pts 10 rbs

Thats about 50 pts you lose when losing those guys.
Now the guys you got is about 24 for Amare, 10 for Felton and thats about it. How can you honestly say they make the playoffs? Dont give me this Gallo is going to help, he is alright on a team that just ran the ball and played zero D.

You are the biggest Knicks hater, closet Net homer I know of. BUT.... for the sake of argument:

1) You are really going to compare Felton to Duhon?? For a span of 2 months Duhon, as a starter (playing 30+ mpg), averaged 4 ppg 5 assists on 30% shooting. Felton is clearly not an elite PG but he is actually a winner and a HUGE improvement over Duhon. He was a national champion in college and that Bobcats team REALLY overachieved. Other than Jackons and Wallace that team is really thin, so playoffs for them is actually a HUGE win. Felton is a legitimate top 20 starting caliber PG, Duhon is a middle of the pack back up... huge difference.

2) I don't think people realize how detrimental and what kind of cancer Al Harrington is. I have lived through a decade of awful Knicks basketball and Harrington is by far my least favorite Knick during that decade. Sure he can score and if you only watch Sportscenter you will see him single handedly win 2-3 games for the Knicks. Except what they don't show is the 8-9 games during that same span that he personally loses for you. Guy has the worst bball iq in the NBA, is an awful chuck and those "20 ppg" are insanely misleading. I am SO GLAD this loser is gone.

3) Hughes?? really? have you seen Hughes play the past few years? I'd rather have Bill Walker start... and that says a lot.

4) I can't stand it when people say Lee is almost the same as Amare. Its ridiculous. I am a HUGE Lee fan, but fact is he benefited from the situation. He excelled on offense against bigger and slower centers and feasted with his mid range jumper because centers refuse to come out to guard him. He played out of position and used it to his advantage offensively. HOWEVER defensively he was a complete disaster and the paint was literally a lay up line for big men. Lee averaged less than half a block a game for a center.... ye thats right. What he provided on the offense due to playing out of position he gave up double on defense.
Sure he is a great rebounder... BUT... did anyone stop to think about the fact that you will get more rebounds when you are literally the ONLY "big man" (or person who ever belongs in the paint) on the whole team. The other frontcourt rotation players for the Knicks???? Jeffries and Harrington...
Lastly Amare has the leadership and winner qualities that Lee does not posses. NBA is not all about numbers, Lee brought no intangibles, he wasn't vocal, wasn't a leader, wasn't a winner but a really good player who took advantage of a great situation for himself numberwise. Amare on the other hand can be a top 10 player in the NBA, since the All Star break last year he was a top 4-5 player in the whole NBA.

NYYCowboys
10-13-2010, 12:05 AM
You are the biggest Knicks hater, closet Net homer I know of. BUT.... for the sake of argument:

1) You are really going to compare Felton to Duhon?? For a span of 2 months Duhon, as a starter (playing 30+ mpg), averaged 4 ppg 5 assists on 30% shooting. Felton is clearly not an elite PG but he is actually a winner and a HUGE improvement over Duhon. He was a national champion in college and that Bobcats team REALLY overachieved. Other than Jackons and Wallace that team is really thin, so playoffs for them is actually a HUGE win. Felton is a legitimate top 20 starting caliber PG, Duhon is a middle of the pack back up... huge difference.

2) I don't think people realize how detrimental and what kind of cancer Al Harrington is. I have lived through a decade of awful Knicks basketball and Harrington is by far my least favorite Knick during that decade. Sure he can score and if you only watch Sportscenter you will see him single handedly win 2-3 games for the Knicks. Except what they don't show is the 8-9 games during that same span that he personally loses for you. Guy has the worst bball iq in the NBA, is an awful chuck and those "20 ppg" are insanely misleading. I am SO GLAD this loser is gone.

3) Hughes?? really? have you seen Hughes play the past few years? I'd rather have Bill Walker start... and that says a lot.

4) I can't stand it when people say Lee is almost the same as Amare. Its ridiculous. I am a HUGE Lee fan, but fact is he benefited from the situation. He excelled on offense against bigger and slower centers and feasted with his mid range jumper because centers refuse to come out to guard him. He played out of position and used it to his advantage offensively. HOWEVER defensively he was a complete disaster and the paint was literally a lay up line for big men. Lee averaged less than half a block a game for a center.... ye thats right. What he provided on the offense due to playing out of position he gave up double on defense.
Sure he is a great rebounder... BUT... did anyone stop to think about the fact that you will get more rebounds when you are literally the ONLY "big man" (or person who ever belongs in the paint) on the whole team. The other frontcourt rotation players for the Knicks???? Jeffries and Harrington...
Lastly Amare has the leadership and winner qualities that Lee does not posses. NBA is not all about numbers, Lee brought no intangibles, he wasn't vocal, wasn't a leader, wasn't a winner but a really good player who took advantage of a great situation for himself numberwise. Amare on the other hand can be a top 10 player in the NBA, since the All Star break last year he was a top 4-5 player in the whole NBA.

Great post. I completely agree.

Raph12
10-13-2010, 12:08 AM
Eastern Confrence
1. Orlando Magic
2. Miami Heat
3. Boston Celtics
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Atlanta Hawks
6. Milwakuee Bucks
7. Charlotte Bobcats
8. New York Knicks

Western Confrence
1. Los Angeles Lakers
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Portland Trailblazers
4. San Antonio Spurs
5. Denver Nuggets
6. Oklahoma City Thunder
7. Utah Jazz
8. Memphis Grizzles

Forbo
10-13-2010, 07:47 AM
Great post. I completely agree.

I am going to have to disagree, Amare is good and is a leader but saying top 4-5 since March is a terrible statement. I dont hate the Knicks, I dislike the Knick fans who insult other teams and hog up a post for months about a superstar going there. Such as I remember a post I dont remember if it was on this forum but it was "Lebron wears a yankee hat" and it got like 500 posts for that!! You guys claim you are loyal I agree but compared to other teams you guys are the biggest city in the US and have the most population so you cant say that other teams such as the Nets have no fans when they are not in the NY market like the Knicks. They are around that area and got broadcasted in the area but dont have that Knick name or legacy yet. But the Nets have been better for the last 10 years.
And put it like this suppose you didnt have Al Harrigton for the entire season last year, you guys would have easily been the worst team. He provided your offense and David Lee would have been double covered at all times.

NYsFinest
10-13-2010, 12:41 PM
I am going to have to disagree, Amare is good and is a leader but saying top 4-5 since March is a terrible statement. I dont hate the Knicks, I dislike the Knick fans who insult other teams and hog up a post for months about a superstar going there. Such as I remember a post I dont remember if it was on this forum but it was "Lebron wears a yankee hat" and it got like 500 posts for that!! You guys claim you are loyal I agree but compared to other teams you guys are the biggest city in the US and have the most population so you cant say that other teams such as the Nets have no fans when they are not in the NY market like the Knicks. They are around that area and got broadcasted in the area but dont have that Knick name or legacy yet. But the Nets have been better for the last 10 years.
And put it like this suppose you didnt have Al Harrigton for the entire season last year, you guys would have easily been the worst team. He provided your offense and David Lee would have been double covered at all times.

He averaged 26 and 10 since the All Star break...

And since you continue to keep saying that Harrington was a positive influence on the Knicks, I can no longer argue with you.

29$JerZ
10-13-2010, 01:50 PM
I know your a homer but look at it like this
New Additions

Raymond Felton- Loser in terms of playing, he was on a bad team for years and got lucky making the playoffs last year. Got outplayed by TD.
Kelenna Azubuike - going to be hurt most of the year
Anthony Randolph - was benched on a bad team, dont give me the future hall of fame bs.
Roger Mason- had a terrible year last year and was wide open a lot.
Ronny Turiaf- dont need to explain nothing special
Timofey Mozgov- didnt look to good in pre season, doubt he adjusts to NBA.
Amare- best player you got, over paid but he is good. Going to be what David Lee did last year a bit of an upgrade but dont see him being a guy that takes Knicks to more wins.

Loses
Al Harrigton- Put up 20 pts for you guys
Chris Duhon - Feltons better but Duhons more of a true pg
Larry Hughes- decent SG
David Lee- was an all star last year put up 20 pts 10 rbs

Thats about 50 pts you lose when losing those guys.
Now the guys you got is about 24 for Amare, 10 for Felton and thats about it. How can you honestly say they make the playoffs? Dont give me this Gallo is going to help, he is alright on a team that just ran the ball and played zero D.

Mozgov looked good in FIBA and preseason so what were you watching?

Harrington putting up 20 pts chucking and never passing/playing D. Not loss when Danilo/Wilson/Randolph will outproduce that easily.

Duhon is not a true PG. He can't do anything a real PG does except hit FT's and P/R. He was the worse starting PG last year.
Hughes only had 1 good month for us in December, he was trash after that.
Lee put up 20 10 but we replace him with a better offensive player who actually gets to the FT line.

Knicks had the 2nd best off season for teams who didn't make the playoffs, I expect them to make it this year. We gained more than we loss.

Forbo
10-13-2010, 02:04 PM
Mozgov looked good in FIBA and preseason so what were you watching?

Harrington putting up 20 pts chucking and never passing/playing D. Not loss when Danilo/Wilson/Randolph will outproduce that easily.

Duhon is not a true PG. He can't do anything a real PG does except hit FT's and P/R. He was the worse starting PG last year.
Hughes only had 1 good month for us in December, he was trash after that.
Lee put up 20 10 but we replace him with a better offensive player who actually gets to the FT line.

Knicks had the 2nd best off season for teams who didn't make the playoffs, I expect them to make it this year. We gained more than we loss.

I am going to have to disagree, it will take a couple of years for them to make the playoffs. Just dont have the talent and coach to do it, but look at the bright side that so called coach that the Knicks have will be fired and be replaced by Isaih or Mike Brown so no worries...oh wait. Knicks didnt have a good offseason they expected that someone would come along with Amare they didnt just expect Amare. Because what alone can Amare do? They got Amare so Lebron or someone else would join him. That never happend. Then the Knicks traded David Lee because no one else would come to Knicks and Knicks needed something in return for losing David Lee. David Lee didnt deserve a max contract but what can you do...Then Knicks recieved a injured player, a good for nothing C, and a young piece that was benched on a bad team. Mosgov is a fouling machine good luck

The only scorers on the Knicks are
Felton, Chandler, Gallo, and Amare combined with awful defense is not a playoff team.

mrblisterdundee
10-13-2010, 02:27 PM
West:

1. Los Angeles
2. Dallas
3. Oklahoma City
4. Denver
5. San Antonio
6. Portland
7. Phoenix
8. Houston

East:

1. Miami
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Milwaukee
5. Atlanta
6. Chicago
7. Washington
8. Cleveland