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Bulls_fan90
10-03-2010, 10:12 PM
"The Bulls and Joakim Noah have agreed to a 5-year contract extension, according to sources familiar with the negotiations.

One source said an announcement could come "in the next couple of days." Asked about the state of negotiations following Sunday's morning practice, Noah smiled but declined to comment.

The exact amount of the extension is unknown but believed to be in the $12 million range annually. Incentives can take the deal higher, and a source said the inclusion of these incentives represented the breakthrough in negotiations. "

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/bulls-noah-near-contract-extension.html

D Roses Bulls
10-03-2010, 10:15 PM
"The Bulls and Joakim Noah have agreed to a 5-year contract extension, according to sources familiar with the negotiations.

One source said an announcement could come "in the next couple of days." Asked about the state of negotiations following Sunday's morning practice, Noah smiled but declined to comment.

The exact amount of the extension is unknown but believed to be in the $12 million range annually. Incentives can take the deal higher, and a source said the inclusion of these incentives represented the breakthrough in negotiations. "

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/bulls-noah-near-contract-extension.html

before the haters come in, just wanna say good. wanted to lock him up. :clap:

Burkey3472
10-03-2010, 10:16 PM
He's going to get overpaid but the Bulls need him if they want to make any type of run in the future.

zambo4president
10-03-2010, 10:18 PM
I could honestly care less how much we are about to overpay him, the important thing is we locked up Noah. This is a big monkey off the Bulls back.

footballer2369
10-03-2010, 10:20 PM
Lol. This is the Bulls team for good....

Now they're stuck...

D Roses Bulls
10-03-2010, 10:20 PM
I could honestly care less how much we are about to overpay him, the important thing is we locked up Noah. This is a big monkey off the Bulls back.

exactly....... if the bulls wouldnt of gave it to him, someone else would of

Kakaroach
10-03-2010, 10:21 PM
Just got the ESPN text. To me this is a good deal for both sides, Noah is well worth 11mil if he continues to improve and play his heart out every night.

Storch
10-03-2010, 10:32 PM
Noah's a great player. Reminds me of how rodman played.

lakers4sho
10-03-2010, 10:37 PM
12 mil per...not bad.

WolvesJagsOs
10-03-2010, 10:41 PM
Smart move by the Bulls.

tcav701
10-03-2010, 10:45 PM
I know the Bulls needed him to stay competitive short term but I just dont see how they can compete for a ring commiting to this core.

Simple math will tell you they cant get a top notch wing player with all their cap locked up with Noah, Boozer and Rose's new deal (should come next year).

Maybe they can mature as a team together but they have to get a whole lot better or it will be a bunch of second round exits and low draft picks for the next half decade.

Wade>You
10-03-2010, 10:53 PM
"We're not getting Carmelo" - Bulls

Mplsman
10-03-2010, 10:57 PM
That is a well deserved amount per year for him.

oak2455
10-03-2010, 10:57 PM
"We're not getting Carmelo" - Bulls

"We will" - Knicks:D

29$JerZ
10-03-2010, 10:57 PM
Chicago needs to dump Deng imo

They are set at the PG/PF/C spots and have depth but they still don't have that star wing. Also with the way the team is going to be built now with no more CAP to mess with they have to hope Deng plays like his contract entails.

Normally I'd say this is a great move to lock up your main players but they still are far from a title contender and won't have much to play with to add on in the next 3-4 years.

Wade>You
10-03-2010, 10:59 PM
"We will" - Knicks:DI think so too and you might get him DISCOUNTED if Carmelo is not traded by the deadline and opts out.

ShaqShoes
10-03-2010, 10:59 PM
The Bulls are stuck now. Better hope they can win a championship with this team.

oak2455
10-03-2010, 11:01 PM
I think so too and you might get him DISCOUNTED if Carmelo is not traded by the deadline and opts out.

hope your right it can be like the old days:D

reemy
10-04-2010, 12:08 AM
overpaid an overrated player

bigsams50
10-04-2010, 12:18 AM
Noahs a good player, but he's not worth 12 million a year.

DMasta718
10-04-2010, 12:22 AM
A lil overpaid to me.

Are they going to pay the luxury tax when they extend Rose?

zambo4president
10-04-2010, 12:27 AM
Lol. This is the Bulls team for good....

Now they're stuck...

Boozer, Noah and Rose is a great trio to get stuck with. Im sure more than half the league would love to get "stuck" with those 3.

WolvesJagsOs
10-04-2010, 12:30 AM
he mightve been overpaid a lil, but nonetheless its a good move imo.

NYKNYGNYY
10-04-2010, 12:34 AM
no more mello talks

godolphins
10-04-2010, 12:35 AM
Well it looks like the bulls are out of the running for Melo.

sargon21
10-04-2010, 12:36 AM
had to be done.

mynameismo
10-04-2010, 01:27 AM
A little overpaid, but some teams will overpay him anyways if he walks..

So good move by Chicago.

DamnGoat
10-04-2010, 01:36 AM
Lol. This is the Bulls team for good....

Now they're stuck...
Yeah, b/c neither Rose or Noah will improve, the Bulls will never have another draft pick or sign another FA...:rolleyes:

mohye
10-04-2010, 02:04 AM
Boozer, Noah and Rose is a great trio to get stuck with. Im sure more than half the league would love to get "stuck" with those 3.

idk if I would want to be stuck with those 3 and yes you are pretty much stuck with your team as it is because Booz, Rose and Noah are gonna eat up a lot of your cap...only hope to get better is to either trade Deng (good luck...****** contract) or hope Rose turns into the next star.

as the bulls are formed they are not title contenders...so if your a bulls fan be happy with being the 3rd to the 7th seed for the next 5 years or so..kinda like the utah jazz of the east

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 05:12 AM
He's not worth a penny over 8.5 mil IMO. They overpayed him big time. He's one of the most overrated players in the league and now the Bulls are stcuk with what they have for the next half decade. They might never contend for the next 5 years.

Wade>You
10-04-2010, 06:07 AM
This is a great deal for the Bulls. It'll turn out to be a deal like when the Celtics locked up Rondo for $11mil/yr. If you let them test FA, it'll cost you $15mil or more to re-sign them.

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 06:40 AM
Yes but Noah is not as near as close to being at the level Rondo was. ^^

DodgerBulls
10-04-2010, 06:56 AM
"We're not getting Carmelo" - Bulls

LOL. isn't it the other way around?

"We're not getting Noah" - Nuggets

I don't know if you read the articles, but the Nuggets is the one keep trying to get Noah off from the Bulls.

Big Quett
10-04-2010, 07:21 AM
WOW!!!!! i know the Hawks have to be upset. Now you cant pay Horford a penny less. And there goes any chance The Grizz get a decent deal for Marc. The Bulls have just messed up the whole market for centers

Raidaz4Life
10-04-2010, 07:23 AM
Chicago better hope this team manages to be competitive because they are going to be extremely limited in what they can do now over the next few years.

Antipod
10-04-2010, 07:24 AM
Still too much, imo

KnicksorBust
10-04-2010, 07:30 AM
Rashard Lewis Correlary goes into effect here.

He's worth being overpaid. Smart signing.

akagiredsuns
10-04-2010, 07:40 AM
He's not worth a penny over 8.5 mil IMO. They overpayed him big time. He's one of the most overrated players in the league and now the Bulls are stcuk with what they have for the next half decade. They might never contend for the next 5 years.

And here come the Heat fans who couldn't stay away. FYI everyone nowadays is over paid. Noah overrated? You just earned a :facepalm:

TheTakeOver24
10-04-2010, 08:23 AM
Hmmm... Boozer injury announced, a day later Noah gets a contract.
Conclusion: Noah knows how to do some voodoo sh..!

Khalifa21
10-04-2010, 08:41 AM
LOL. isn't it the other way around?

"We're not getting Noah" - Nuggets

I don't know if you read the articles, but the Nuggets is the one keep trying to get Noah off from the Bulls.

Well who do the Nuggets have interest in if Noah's off the table??

This pretty much guarantee's Melo in a Knicks jersey in the very near future...

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 08:44 AM
And here come the Heat fans who couldn't stay away. FYI everyone nowadays is over paid. Noah overrated? You just earned a :facepalm:

Noah is overrated

Mile High Champ
10-04-2010, 09:44 AM
11 million a year for Noah? That is downright insane. The Bulls overpayed big time...

bears88
10-04-2010, 10:14 AM
Yes but Noah is not as near as close to being at the level Rondo was. ^^

one plays a center and one plays the point guard you cant compare thoses two players geez :facepalm:

Purugskid
10-04-2010, 10:25 AM
He averaged a double-double last season and is the heart of the team. Overpaying him a little is still a good signing

daleja424
10-04-2010, 10:25 AM
Lol. This is the Bulls team for good....

Now they're stuck...

yup, and thats the problem for the Bulls. This ensures them of making the playoffs for the next 5 years...but that team is not a contender, so this move tells me, we are content with making the playoffs. Unfortunate for D-Rose.

daleja424
10-04-2010, 10:29 AM
one plays a center and one plays the point guard you cant compare thoses two players geez :facepalm:
sure you can. One guy is an elite player who does it all...one guy is a defensive/rebounding specialist that is far more easily replaced.


And here come the Heat fans who couldn't stay away. FYI everyone nowadays is over paid. Noah overrated? You just earned a :facepalm:
he is overrated if he thinks he is worth 12 mil a year. He is a solid player... but clearly he thinks he is elite...and so do the Bulls...and he is not elite.

masalex1205
10-04-2010, 10:31 AM
overpaid...the Bulls had all the leverage with the new CBA coming up

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 10:34 AM
overpaid...the Bulls had all the leverage with the new CBA coming up

agreed, and he wasnt going to be unrestricted til 2012. CHI just did this to make him happy but that might not have been the smartest thing. He is virtually untradeable now.

In one year Noah went from a good underrated 7ppg 6rpg role player to perhaps the most overrated player in the NBA. And it's not like he's 21 with untapped potential, he's 26, this is his prime.

daleja424
10-04-2010, 10:38 AM
This is my point of reference for everyone... Udonis Haslem averaged 11/9 on 54% shooting his second year.... Noah averaged 11/11 on 50%...

Udnois Haslem has never made more than about 6 mil in a year.... now Noah will make a an average of double that...

daleja424
10-04-2010, 10:39 AM
even if you look at the Bulls roster.... Taj Gibson has arguable a better rookie year than Noah... is he worth elite money too???

mr hardney
10-04-2010, 10:40 AM
:clap:good for the bulls. noah will be a really good center..

HoopsDrive
10-04-2010, 11:23 AM
Not worth it.

RCarlson85
10-04-2010, 11:23 AM
Noahs a good player, but he's not worth 12 million a year.

Exactly. I just don't see this core of Noah, Boozer, and Rose winning a championship. They've made their bed though, time to sleep in it.

I also don't think that Noah is that much of an upgrade over someone like Udonis Haslem. They both have similar games. They're both hustle players who are all about defense and rebounding. The Heat got him for 5 years/20 million. Sure, that's a discount, but he still would have only gotten 5 years and 30 some million if he signed with someone like Dallas or Denver like it was rumored. I would take Haslem for 30 million any day over Noah for 60 million.

Noah - 10.7 points per game and 11 rebounds per game in 30 minutes

Haslem - 9.9 points per game and 8.1 rebound per game in 28 minutes

I don't want to hear someone comeback with how can I say Haslem is better than Noah. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying is Noah worth 30 million more than a player like Haslem?

HoopsDrive
10-04-2010, 11:27 AM
Exactly. I just don't see this core of Noah, Boozer, and Rose winning a championship. They've made their bed though, time to sleep in it.

I also don't think that Noah is that much of an upgrade over someone like Udonis Haslem. They both have similar games. They're both hustle players who are all about defense and rebounding. The Heat got him for 5 years/20 million. Sure, that's a discount, but he still would have only gotten 5 years and 30 some million if he signed with someone like Dallas or Denver like it was rumored. I would take Haslem for 30 million any day over Noah for 60 million.

Noah - 10.7 points per game and 11 rebounds per game in 30 minutes

Haslem - 9.9 points per game and 8.1 rebound per game in 28 minutes

I don't want to hear someone comeback with how can I say Haslem is better than Noah. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying is Noah worth 30 million more than a player like Haslem?

Definitely not 30 million more. Max I'd given Noah would have been 8 a year.

xbrackattackx
10-04-2010, 11:32 AM
I was expecting 8-10 so this isn't a huge surprise.

Super.
10-04-2010, 11:39 AM
Certainly not worth $12M a year. Sure he's good, but 2M annually off of Wade and LeBron?

That's a joke. Noah isn't even CLOSE to players of that caliber and he was seriously overpaid.

JOSKOMANG4
10-04-2010, 11:39 AM
Noah reminds me of a younger Ben Wallace. So I think its a good deal, but I honestly don't believe he'll get anywhere close to this contract after it expires.

THE MTL
10-04-2010, 12:21 PM
He isnt worth anymore than 10 million per year. VERY overpaid!!!! His deal is supposed to be even more than 12 million per if u include incentives. He is making like 2 million less than Carlos Boozer.

And Bulls fan talk about Knicks overpaying Amare. SMH!

But Noah put them in a cripple once Boozer went out...I guess they felt they had no choice lol

Cool007
10-04-2010, 01:06 PM
Exactly. I just don't see this core of Noah, Boozer, and Rose winning a championship. They've made their bed though, time to sleep in it.

I also don't think that Noah is that much of an upgrade over someone like Udonis Haslem. They both have similar games. They're both hustle players who are all about defense and rebounding. The Heat got him for 5 years/20 million. Sure, that's a discount, but he still would have only gotten 5 years and 30 some million if he signed with someone like Dallas or Denver like it was rumored. I would take Haslem for 30 million any day over Noah for 60 million.

Noah - 10.7 points per game and 11 rebounds per game in 30 minutes

Haslem - 9.9 points per game and 8.1 rebound per game in 28 minutes

I don't want to hear someone comeback with how can I say Haslem is better than Noah. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying is Noah worth 30 million more than a player like Haslem?


You do realize that Noah was basically a 12ppg 12rpg 2bpg player before he got that Plantar F. in his foot in January right????

If you don't think a player that is 12ppg 12rpg 2-3apg 2bpg type guy is worth $12mil a year???

Cool007
10-04-2010, 01:08 PM
He isnt worth anymore than 10 million per year. VERY overpaid!!!! His deal is supposed to be even more than 12 million per if u include incentives. He is making like 2 million less than Carlos Boozer.

And Bulls fan talk about Knicks overpaying Amare. SMH!

But Noah put them in a cripple once Boozer went out...I guess they felt they had no choice lol


Really???

Noah = $12mil a year

Boozer = $16mil a year

Amare = $20mil a year.

RCarlson85
10-04-2010, 01:43 PM
You do realize that Noah was basically a 12ppg 12rpg 2bpg player before he got that Plantar F. in his foot in January right????

If you don't think a player that is 12ppg 12rpg 2-3apg 2bpg type guy is worth $12mil a year???

Yeah because 12/12 is really a lot different than the 11/11 that I said he averaged last year. Come on. The answer is NO, I don't think a player that averages 12/12 is worth 12 million a year. Him possibly averaging 1 point and 1 rebound more than I said doesn't change my mind either.

D Roses Bulls
10-04-2010, 01:48 PM
This is my point of reference for everyone... Udonis Haslem averaged 11/9 on 54% shooting his second year.... Noah averaged 11/11 on 50%...

Udnois Haslem has never made more than about 6 mil in a year.... now Noah will make a an average of double that...

but udnois was for one older when he came into the league because he was playing ball in europe. my point on that is noah still hasnt even reached his prime yet, by the time udnois was up for his extension he had pretty much reached his prime. you dont know noahs limit of potential because he hasnt reached it yet. second, 6ft11-7ft guys are a lot more converted then PF's who are 6'8" and also noah makes A LOT more of a impact on the floor then haslem does. noah wasnt used properly his first two years in the NBA by skiles and del negro. he barely even played under skiles. so he had only been able to get play the last year and half. 12 million for someone who would of been an allstar big man if not injured isnt all that bad at all and if they didnt pay him it, then someone would of. noah has the potential to be a bigger version of dennis rodman type player with more offense and no one would sit here and argue that rodman didnt have abig impact the floor or didnt affect the out come of games.

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 01:56 PM
but udnois was for one older when he came into the league because he was playing ball in europe. my point on that is noah still hasnt even reached his prime yet, by the time udnois was up for his extension he had pretty much reached his prime. you dont know noahs limit of potential because he hasnt reached it yet. second, 6ft11-7ft guys are a lot more converted then PF's who are 6'8" and also noah makes A LOT more of a impact on the floor then haslem does. second, noah wasnt used properly his first two years in the NBA by skiles and del negro. he barely even played under skiles. so he had only been able to get play the last year and half. 12 million for someone who would of been an allstar big man if not injured isnt all that bad at all and if they didnt pay him it, then someone would of. noah has the potential to be a bigger version of dennis rodman with more offense and no one would sit here and argue that rodman didnt have abig impact the floor or didnt affect the out come of games.

Of course he's worth 12m if he even comes close to having the career that Rodman had. But you are reeeeeaaaallllyyy stretching to say Noah has a chance to be better than one of the best rebounders & defenders in NBA history. I mean really, Noah shouldnt even be in the same paragraph as Rodman.

D Roses Bulls
10-04-2010, 01:59 PM
Of course he's worth 12m if he even comes close to having the career that Rodman had. But you are reeeeeaaaallllyyy stretching to say Noah has a chance to be better than one of the best rebounders & defenders in NBA history. I mean really, Noah shouldnt even be in the same paragraph as Rodman.

I said he has a chance to be like rodman and it really isnt a stretch when you think about it. rodman wasnt physically gifted like most NBA players, he just worked his butt off and played very hard. If noah continues to work his butt off,why couldnt he? it's not like we are comparing someone to Michael jordan here.

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 02:05 PM
You do realize that Noah was basically a 12ppg 12rpg 2bpg player before he got that Plantar F. in his foot in January right????

If you don't think a player that is 12ppg 12rpg 2-3apg 2bpg type guy is worth $12mil a year???

Definitely not.

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 02:09 PM
but udnois was for one older when he came into the league because he was playing ball in europe. my point on that is noah still hasnt even reached his prime yet, by the time udnois was up for his extension he had pretty much reached his prime. you dont know noahs limit of potential because he hasnt reached it yet. second, 6ft11-7ft guys are a lot more converted then PF's who are 6'8" and also noah makes A LOT more of a impact on the floor then haslem does. noah wasnt used properly his first two years in the NBA by skiles and del negro. he barely even played under skiles. so he had only been able to get play the last year and half. 12 million for someone who would of been an allstar big man if not injured isnt all that bad at all and if they didnt pay him it, then someone would of. noah has the potential to be a bigger version of dennis rodman with more offense and no one would sit here and argue that rodman didnt have abig impact the floor or didnt affect the out come of games.


Really? I dont think so...

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 02:09 PM
I said he has a chance to be like rodman and it really isnt a stretch when you think about it. rodman wasnt physically gifted like most NBA players, he just worked his butt off and played very hard. If noah continues to work his butt off,why couldnt he? it's not like we are comparing someone to Michael jordan here.

Dude thats a HUUUGE stretch, there have been many 26 year olds that averaged a double double in one season. Rodman is an all time great defender and rebounder. What has Noah done to be even mentioned with Rodman? Not trying to be a dick or nothing but thats an insult to Rodman.

Before last year many felt Noah was a bust, he was a 7 & 7 guy, now he has one good season and he has a chance to be Rodman? Like seriously?

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 02:10 PM
but udnois was for one older when he came into the league because he was playing ball in europe. my point on that is noah still hasnt even reached his prime yet, by the time udnois was up for his extension he had pretty much reached his prime. you dont know noahs limit of potential because he hasnt reached it yet. second, 6ft11-7ft guys are a lot more converted then PF's who are 6'8" and also noah makes A LOT more of a impact on the floor then haslem does. noah wasnt used properly his first two years in the NBA by skiles and del negro. he barely even played under skiles. so he had only been able to get play the last year and half. 12 million for someone who would of been an allstar big man if not injured isnt all that bad at all and if they didnt pay him it, then someone would of. noah has the potential to be a bigger version of dennis rodman with more offense and no one would sit here and argue that rodman didnt have abig impact the floor or didnt affect the out come of games.

wow.. :facepalm:
you deserve a cmon son

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 02:18 PM
wow.. :facepalm:
you deserve a cmon son

yea, that has to be one of the most homerism comments I have seen in a while.

Khalifa21
10-04-2010, 02:30 PM
:laugh2: at the Rodman comparisons...

We're talking about the greatest rebounder ever and one of the best undersized "big" man defenders ever.

The only thing that Noah and Rodman will ever have in common is they both played for the Bulls.

Southsideheat
10-04-2010, 02:30 PM
What people fail to realize that is going to be easier to trade Noah now that he got his extension. Teams will not fear that he'll leave after next year. Not saying they will but saying they're stuck with him is just not true.

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 02:31 PM
What people fail to realize that is going to be easier to trade Noah now that he got his extension. Teams will not fear that he'll leave after next year. Not saying they will but saying they're stuck with him is just not true.

I think its quite the opposite, Noah was a nice role player on a rookie contract, now he is a 6 year commitment at near superstar money. I don't think many teams will want to take on that contract.

effen5
10-04-2010, 02:33 PM
I personally wouldn't have paid him over 11 so 12 really isn't that bad, compared to what all the other centers are getting paid 12 really isn't bad at all.
I mean FFS, the Knicks are paying Curry 11+ to sit his fatass on the bench and Noah is bringing in double double nightly.

A lot of you guys are overreacting.

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 02:35 PM
I personally wouldn't have paid him over 11 so 12 really isn't that bad, compared to what all the other centers are getting paid 12 really isn't bad at all.
I mean FFS, the Knicks are paying Curry 11+ to sit his fatass on the bench and Noah is bringing in double double nightly.

A lot of you guys are overreacting.

well Eddy Curry has the worst contract in the NBA right now, so any contract will look good when compared to Eddy's.

effen5
10-04-2010, 02:35 PM
I think its quite the opposite, Noah was a nice role player on a rookie contract, now he is a 6 year commitment at near superstar money. I don't think many teams will want to take on that contract.

and if Noah was included in the trade for Melo, how much do you think Denver was going to pay for Noah?

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 02:36 PM
and if Noah was included in the trade for Melo, how much do you think Denver was going to pay for Noah?

who knows, but I don't think a team that would essentially be rebuilding would want to tie up so much cap space on a role player. A very good solid role player yes, but he's getting payed close to superstar money.

Stunner
10-04-2010, 02:37 PM
At most Noah was worth 10 mil. But im glad its over hopefully he can keep improving his game. Nice to hear he has been working on his outside game that was ok last season.

effen5
10-04-2010, 02:37 PM
who knows, but I don't think a team that would essentially be rebuilding would want to tie up so much cap space on a role player. A very good solid role player yes, but he's getting payed close to superstar money.

and how about some of these role players

from the bulls forum




Here's some other Centers to compare Noah contract to:
Tyson Chandler $12,600,000
Nene $11,360,000
Andris Biedrins $9,000,000
David Lee $10,500,000
Yao Ming $17,686,100
Chris Kaman $11,300,000
Andrew Bynum $13,700,000
Andrew Bogut $11,000,000
Emeka Okafor $11,540,375
Eddy Curry $11,276,863
Dwight Howard $15,779,912
Samuel Dalembert $13,428,129
Mehmet Okur $9,945,000
Al Jefferson $13,000,000
Andrea Bargnani $8,500,000
Marcus Camby $8,453,250
Amar'e Stoudemire $16,500,000

There's a lot of young centers, that are still in rookie contracts that will be getting big pay days soon.

Like I said, what he got paid is fine according to the market.

nycericanguy
10-04-2010, 02:43 PM
and how about some of these role players

from the bulls forum



Like I said, what he got paid is fine according to the market.

there are some pretty awful contracts in there, but Amare, DH20, Yao, role players?

Shammyguy3
10-04-2010, 02:44 PM
and how about some of these role players

from the bulls forum



Like I said, what he got paid is fine according to the market.

Was just about to quote that same comment :clap:

effen5
10-04-2010, 02:46 PM
there are some pretty awful contracts in there, but Amare, DH20, Yao, role players?

I said some

Sly Guy
10-04-2010, 02:57 PM
What people fail to realize that is going to be easier to trade Noah now that he got his extension. Teams will not fear that he'll leave after next year. Not saying they will but saying they're stuck with him is just not true.

not true. Teams would have loved the chance to negotiate the terms of their own contract with him. A trade would have offered them a hungry contract year player, and the chance to renegotiate that contract with all the perks that come with a returning player.

D Roses Bulls
10-04-2010, 04:56 PM
Really? I dont think so...

WHAT???? haslem does not have near the impact noah does. i mean thats great you like your player and all, but dont be stupid now. miami would trade haslem for noah in a heart beat if they could. miami was offering haslem up for chump change the last couple years if im not mistaken.

D Roses Bulls
10-04-2010, 04:58 PM
wow.. :facepalm:
you deserve a cmon son

have you ever seen rodman play? probably not.....

D Roses Bulls
10-04-2010, 05:04 PM
:laugh2: at the Rodman comparisons...

We're talking about the greatest rebounder ever and one of the best undersized "big" man defenders ever.

The only thing that Noah and Rodman will ever have in common is they both played for the Bulls.

how do you know? do you have a crystal ball or something where you can see into the future? its not that far fetched. its not like we are comparing someone to jordan here. as a person who is old enough to remember watching rodman even with the pistons before a lot of people on this site was born. do you know why he was such a great rebounder? not because of athleticism but because he worked his butt off. not many players not a days play great defense and work their butt off. they rely on their athleticism. noah is one of the few who works his butt off day after day to get better because he doesnt have the skills most players have today. like i said its not that far fetched. thats why jordan is the greatest ever because of his determination. SO AGAIN..... I havent been wrong on a lot of things and the one thing I see is noah has that determination to be good. I never said he is gonna be him, but I said he has the potential to be THAT KIND OF PLAYER. gosh you guys need to learn ho to put sentences together better.

D Roses Bulls
10-04-2010, 05:07 PM
Dude thats a HUUUGE stretch, there have been many 26 year olds that averaged a double double in one season. Rodman is an all time great defender and rebounder. What has Noah done to be even mentioned with Rodman? Not trying to be a dick or nothing but thats an insult to Rodman.

Before last year many felt Noah was a bust, he was a 7 & 7 guy, now he has one good season and he has a chance to be Rodman? Like seriously?

dude its not a huge stretch.i am 25 years old. I have watched basketball as far as I can remember back. I never said he was gonna be rodman, I said he could be that kind of player. its not a homer answer, you cant predict how good noah is gonna be in 5 years. but already the guy is good on defense and a very good rebounder. he is only going to get better because he works hard to be better. so its not that far fetched AGAIN like you say it is.

Swashcuff
10-04-2010, 05:19 PM
for 12 Mil per that isn't half bad. Noah still has room for improvement..... as he showed last post-season he has room for growth.

Southsideheat
10-04-2010, 05:30 PM
not true. Teams would have loved the chance to negotiate the terms of their own contract with him. A trade would have offered them a hungry contract year player, and the chance to renegotiate that contract with all the perks that come with a returning player.

Do you think other teams have different negotiating tactics than the bulls? Noah was going to get what he got anywhere. He was a restricted FA after this year.

Pierzynski4Prez
10-04-2010, 05:45 PM
how do you know? do you have a crystal ball or something where you can see into the future? its not that far fetched. its not like we are comparing someone to jordan here. as a person who is old enough to remember watching rodman even with the pistons before a lot of people on this site was born. do you know why he was such a great rebounder? not because of athleticism but because he worked his butt off. not many players not a days play great defense and work their butt off. they rely on their athleticism. noah is one of the few who works his butt off day after day to get better because he doesnt have the skills most players have today. like i said its not that far fetched. thats why jordan is the greatest ever because of his determination. SO AGAIN..... I havent been wrong on a lot of things and the one thing I see is noah has that determination to be good. I never said he is gonna be him, but I said he has the potential to be THAT KIND OF PLAYER. gosh you guys need to learn ho to put sentences together better.


dude its not a huge stretch.i am 25 years old. I have watched basketball as far as I can remember back. I never said he was gonna be rodman, I said he could be that kind of player. its not a homer answer, you cant predict how good noah is gonna be in 5 years. but already the guy is good on defense and a very good rebounder. he is only going to get better because he works hard to be better. so its not that far fetched AGAIN like you say it is.

You still remember things like this from when you were 5 years old?? Damn.

In all honesty, Rodman is one of the top rebounders of all time. Noah needs to have a good near decade (while staying healthy) doing what he did last year to be in the same sentence as Rodman.

Not saying Jo can't, but the odds of him putting up numbers and productivity anywhere near Rodman are pretty slim, but the odds are still there. Remember, you're talking 7 straight years of 15+ rebounds per game. Not some simple feat that can be accomplished by simply hustling and working hard.

bringinwood
10-04-2010, 08:01 PM
Why is it everytime I see a picture of Joakim, it looks like he is the only guy in the NBA that can't get laid... Who the hell would want to **** a guy that looks dirty as hell and could pass himself off as a crack smoking pedophile...

Maybe with his new contract he can admit himself into the Betty Ford clinic, buy a bar of soap, and get some plastic surgery...

ecorrea
10-04-2010, 08:24 PM
Why is it everytime I see a picture of Joakim, it looks like he is the only guy in the NBA that can't get laid... Who the hell would want to **** a guy that looks dirty as hell and could pass himself off as a crack smoking pedophile...

Maybe with his new contract he can admit himself into the Betty Ford clinic, buy a bar of soap, and get some plastic surgery...

:facepalm:

damasterpiece
10-04-2010, 09:32 PM
over paid, yes! but it's worth it

Sly Guy
10-04-2010, 09:58 PM
Do you think other teams have different negotiating tactics than the bulls? Noah was going to get what he got anywhere. He was a restricted FA after this year.

maybe so, but the team involved in the trade would get a hungry contract year player. Essentially a great year of play at a discount price.

And then they'd be able to negotiate terms that suit them best, which may not amount to much in a dollar-sense, but it could mean a incentive instead of a mil on the contract, or the removal of a no-trade clause or whatnot. There is more to the contract than simply salary earned.

BkOriginalOne
10-04-2010, 10:25 PM
Good deal because it's going to be a better one within 2 years.