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JordansBulls
10-02-2010, 06:15 PM
LA Lakers Have Homecourt Advantage in this Series


PSD NBA FINALS

Miami vs. LA Lakers
Winner: Vote here!

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Each poll will have a voting time of 5 days. This applies to each matchup until an NBA Champion has been determined.



PSD CONFERENCE WINNERS- PLAYOFFS - PREDICTIONS


EASTERN FINALS

Miami vs. Boston
Winner: Miami, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536735)


WESTERN FINALS

LA Lakers vs. Dallas
Winner: LA Lakers, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536737)


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EASTERN CONFERENCE - Playoffs


SEMIFINALS

Miami vs. Chicago
Winner: Miami, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535417)

Orlando vs. Boston
Winner: Boston, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535210)


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FIRST ROUND

Miami vs. NY Knicks
Winner: Miami, 4-0 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534157)

Chicago vs. Atlanta
Winner: Chicago, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533731)




Boston vs. Milwaukee
Winner: Boston, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533741)

Orlando vs. Charlotte
Winner: Orlando, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534154)



The total of votes for each team will be counted (all 4 options together) and the team with the higher total wins. Eventually, the result will be the option with the most votes (out of 4 options) of the team that has the most votes altogether.



Example:

If the option which has been voted most out of all 8 in the poll is "New York in 6" (20 votes), it doesn't necessarily mean that New York has won. If New York has 50 votes (New York in 4, 5, 6 & 7 altogether), but Charlotte has 55 votes (Charlotte in 4, 5, 6 & 7 altogether), Charlotte is the winner, although it didn't have the most votes in any of its 4 single options. The option with the most votes of the winner (Charlotte) is the final result.

Let's say:
New York in 4 = 10 votes
New York in 5 = 5 votes
New York in 6 = 20 votes
New York in 7 = 15 votes
Total = 50 votes

Now lets say Charlotte has
Charlotte in 4 = 12
Charlotte in 5 = 13
Charlotte in 6 = 17
Charlotte in 7 = 13
Total = 55 votes
The winner would be Charlotte in 6 since they would have the most votes total overall and thus the option for them that was voted the most is Charlotte in 6 would become the final result.


EASTERN CONFERENCE - Regular Season

Click the team name for poll results. The 8 best records in each conference have been determined. According to league rules, the seedings are as follows

(1) Miami (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531447) - Southeast Division
(2) Orlando (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531647) - Southeast Division
(3) Boston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531834) - Atlantic Division
(4) Chicago (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532091) - Central Division
(5) Atlanta (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532440) - Southeast Division
(6) Milwaukee (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532730) - Central Division
(7) Charlotte (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533049) - Southeast Division
(8) New York (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533384) - Atlantic Division




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WESTERN CONFERENCE - Playoffs




SEMIFINALS

LA Lakers vs. Portland
Winner: LA Lakers, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535212)

Dallas vs. Oklahoma City
Winner: Dallas, 4-3 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535215)


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FIRST ROUND

LA Lakers vs. Houston
Winner: LA Lakers, 4-1 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534152)

Portland vs. Utah
Winner: Portland, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533735)





Oklahoma City vs Denver
Winner: Oklahoma City, 4-2 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533743)

Dallas vs San Antonio
Winner: Dallas, 4-3 (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534150)


The total of votes for each team will be counted (all 4 options together) and the team with the higher total wins. Eventually, the result will be the option with the most votes (out of 4 options) of the team that has the most votes altogether.


Example:

If the option which has been voted most out of all 8 in the poll is "Memphis in 6" (20 votes), it doesn't necessarily mean that Memphis has won. If Memphis has 50 votes (Memphis in 4, 5, 6 & 7 altogether), but New Orleans has 55 votes (New Orleans in 4, 5, 6 & 7 altogether), New Orleans is the winner, although it didn't have the most votes in any of its 4 single options. The option with the most votes of the winner (New Orleans) is the final result.

Let's say:
Memphis in 4 = 10 votes
Memphis in 5 = 5 votes
Memphis in 6 = 20 votes
Memphis in 7 = 15 votes
Total = 50 votes

Now lets say New Orleans has
New Orleans in 4 = 12
New Orleans in 5 = 13
New Orleans in 6 = 17
New Orleans in 7 = 13
Total = 55 votes
The winner would be New Orleans in 6 since they would have the most votes total overall and thus the option for them that was voted the most is New Orleans in 6 would become the final result.



WESTERN CONFERENCE - Regular Season

Click the team name for poll results. The 8 best records in each conference have been determined. According to league rules, the seedings are as follows

(1) LA Lakers (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531449) - Pacific Division
(2) Dallas (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531656) - Southwest Divison
(3) Oklahoma City (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531832) - Northwest Division
(4) Portland (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532093) - Northwest Division
(5) Utah (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532446) - Northwest Division
(6) Denver (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532734) - Northwest Division
(7) San Antonio (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533053) - Southwest Divison
(8) Houston (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533382) - Southwest Divison






NOTE: Don't put this in your teams forum with a link to it or you are disqualified.

marlinsfan24
10-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Lakers should, and will be the favorites in this series, but I went Miami in 6. :D

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 06:23 PM
The Lakers would be hyped as the favorites, but I say Miami in 6. Miami will have one of the top 2 players in the league on the court at all times, and add a top 20 player 40+ minutes during the playoffs.

Gators123
10-02-2010, 06:23 PM
I think Andrew Bynum is the X Factor, if hes healthy I'll go with the Lakers in 7

lakers4sho
10-02-2010, 06:33 PM
The Lakers would be hyped as the favorites, but I say Miami in 6. Miami will have one of the top 2 players in the league on the court at all times, and add a top 20 player 40+ minutes during the playoffs.

:rolleyes:

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Lakers in 6

beasted86
10-02-2010, 06:33 PM
I think Andrew Bynum is the X Factor, if hes healthy I'll go with the Lakers in 7

Even if 100% healthy, I haven't seen Bynum get over his foul proneness.

He'll have to both get over his injury problems, and get over his fouling problems all in one go for him to be the X factor in this type of series. I just don't see it happening... but Kobe & Gasol at their top game, and good overall Lakers defense is good enough to beat nearly anyone even if Bynum is injured.

Mc Lovin
10-02-2010, 06:35 PM
I'm not even voting because people are anointing a team that has yet to win a game as the Eastern Conference Finalists. They will never get by Boston. The C's are too big and Chris Bosh is soft.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-02-2010, 06:37 PM
I thought Boston won in 7:confused:

Am I missing something:shrug:

John Walls Era
10-02-2010, 06:38 PM
I'm not even voting because people are anointing a team that has yet to win a game as the Eastern Conference Finalists. They will never get by Boston. The C's are too big and Chris Bosh is soft.

They also said that about Gasol in the past.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-02-2010, 06:41 PM
Lakers in 7

dnewguy
10-02-2010, 06:47 PM
Heat in 5.

If Thunder can take the Lakers to 7, Heat would probably sweep that team. But I am been generous, so I'll say they win a game.

Khalifa21
10-02-2010, 06:48 PM
Heat in 6.

Heater4life
10-02-2010, 06:52 PM
thought this would be a good topic motivation....

Lakers vs Heat preview
http://www.youtube.com/user/ValkyrieProduction#p/u/2/LrEkEAjnq40

Great job Valk.....Heat in 7

zo#33
10-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Heat in 6 or Lakers in 7 lol. Giving the nod to the Lakers for being defending champs

NYYCowboys
10-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Lakers in 6.

TheTakeOver24
10-02-2010, 07:10 PM
wow... its tied...
shouldn't be... i voted for the Heat but Lakers should definitely be the favorite.
hella surprised.

kjoke
10-02-2010, 07:11 PM
heat in 5

and the lakers get luck with a win

ShaqShoes
10-02-2010, 07:14 PM
I hope this happens in real life KOBE VS LEBRON oh my god that would be sick. I picked Miami in 7, because the Heat have A LOT to prove this year.

Heater4life
10-02-2010, 07:32 PM
Kobe, Gasol, Artest v.s Lebron, Wade, Bosh..........David Stern just found his answer for erectile disfunction.

The revenue for that series would be INSANE!!!!

alencp3
10-02-2010, 07:36 PM
Heat in 5
Suprised to see Heat leading so far

daleja424
10-02-2010, 07:38 PM
Miami in 7. This one will go the distance...but the HEAT will have the Homecourt....no doubt. The Lakers are a veteran team that won't stress over regular season wins... the HEAT are in win everything mode...b/c they feel like they have something to prove.

JordansBulls
10-02-2010, 07:39 PM
I thought Boston won in 7:confused:

Am I missing something:shrug:

Yes. Boston had the highest amount of votes in it's single option, however Miami had the highest total votes. So the winner is the one who has the most votes total, not the one necesarrily who has the most votes in 1 single option.

LayZbone
10-02-2010, 07:45 PM
I think it would be extremely close. 7 games for sure, with the Heat winning (HCA).

NYKalltheway
10-02-2010, 07:45 PM
If Heat meets Lakers in NBA finals it's gonna be a lame season. I'd love to see Dallas or Portland vs Magic or another Eastern team except Miami and Boston.
This season deserves an upset if they wanna call it one of the best ever.

As for the topic, Lakers in 7

LakersMaster24
10-02-2010, 07:49 PM
MIAMI IN 6! HAHAHAHAHA Heat homers show up already :D lmaoooo

godolphins
10-02-2010, 07:54 PM
Heat in 7

soundjunkies2
10-02-2010, 07:58 PM
Lakers in 7. The most complete and experienced team in the NBA.

Jewelz0376
10-02-2010, 08:00 PM
I'm assuming everyone will be healthy...and with a healthy Bynum the Lakers have too much size for Mia...I don't think some people realize how good Bynum is when he's healthy..he has 20/10 ability when healthy... I say LA in 7..

beasted86
10-02-2010, 08:11 PM
I'm not even voting because people are anointing a team that has yet to win a game as the Eastern Conference Finalists.
Well duh, no teams at all have played a game yet.

Hustlenomics
10-02-2010, 08:11 PM
the Heat would win this matchup

Jonathan2323
10-02-2010, 08:18 PM
HEAT in 6

Heater4life
10-02-2010, 08:22 PM
I'm assuming everyone will be healthy...and with a healthy Bynum the Lakers have too much size for Mia...I don't think some people realize how good Bynum is when he's healthy..he has 20/10 ability when healthy... I say LA in 7..

i do, hes really good. but thats when and if hes healthy, hes defiantly the x factor.

any prediction in 7 is accurate, could go either way im shooting heat.

LakersA's49ers
10-02-2010, 08:43 PM
Heat in 5.

If Thunder can take the Lakers to 7, Heat would probably sweep that team. But I am been generous, so I'll say they win a game.

NO respect for Oklahoma City! Have you seen that team? Durant Westbrook Kristic Green Harden Sefolosha and whoever else = a championship brewing

DeyAce
10-02-2010, 08:45 PM
Lakers in 7

NYYCowboys
10-02-2010, 08:54 PM
Lebron can't handle the pressure of the playoffs or NY so it's gotta be the Lakers. (Please Heat homers spare me the U MAD? b.s.).

jerellh528
10-02-2010, 09:03 PM
I think this will be an offense vs defense series IF the heat make it past the C's, but we all know defense wins chips, so ill go lakers in 5 or 6. The heat win a game or 2 based on wades will to win.

jerellh528
10-02-2010, 09:08 PM
Well duh, no teams at all have played a game yet.

Lakers and celtics/ magics have kept the same nucleus and have gotten better in the offseason, miami blew up thier whole roster. Thats what he meant by heat havent played a game yet. duh

streetballa
10-02-2010, 09:08 PM
I went Heat in 7 because I think they will have the best record in the regular season so home court advantage in game 7 was the difference

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 09:45 PM
Gotta go with the team that has the most experience.

SB1
10-02-2010, 09:46 PM
Heat should have HCA... Heat in 6

Mile High Champ
10-02-2010, 10:00 PM
The Heat would lose the series and almost every game in the post. Lakers in 7 in a very close series. Steve Blake has a monster post-season for the lakers, you heard it here first..

Angel2Maverick
10-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Lakers in 7

SugeKnight
10-02-2010, 10:37 PM
Lakers in 6

_KB24_
10-02-2010, 10:40 PM
Lakers in 5/6. Our post presence on both the offensive/defensive ends would be way too much for such a fragile opposing frontcourt.

JakeLong27777
10-02-2010, 10:43 PM
Lakers in 7 Games. Pau Gasol Finals MVP

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 10:44 PM
Lakers in 5/6. Our post presence on both the offensive/defensive ends would be way too much for such a fragile opposing frontcourt.

one of either Wade and Lebron will be on the court at the same time, and they are some of the best at getting to the line. The Lakers bigs would be in alot of foul trouble in this series.

airronijordan
10-02-2010, 10:45 PM
Lakers in 7. Miami won't be able to stop gasol and bynum while artest and kobe will somewhat limit wade and lebron....lakers also have the better bench

FakeBlackMamba
10-02-2010, 10:50 PM
Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum win Co-MVP's

LA in 7

dnewguy
10-02-2010, 10:51 PM
Looks like Bulls, knicks and Laker fans are voting for the Lakers.....Heat and some Cavs fans voting for Miami.....in end Lakers will win because Haters + Homers seem to realize this their only opportunity to beat the Heat. The Lakers beat the Heat once on a lucky shot last season with Wade and D league talents....they would be lucky to win a game versus Heat now. Kobe is not an efficient player, they mostly get by when they play defense but With Wade and Bron, your defense won't be enough.

dnewguy
10-02-2010, 10:54 PM
Laker fans that said no one can stop Bynum or Gasol......Who can stop Lebron or Wade? Bynum and Gasol have never even been a 3rd team NBA defense, they're so overrated defensively.

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 11:01 PM
Lakers in 7. Miami won't be able to stop gasol and bynum while artest and kobe will somewhat limit wade and lebron....lakers also have the better bench

1.Bynum will be in foul trouble all series (that is if he is even healthy)

2.Artest and Kobe will not stop Wade and Lebron (Wade averaged 26.5 Points, 11.5 Assits, 6.5 Rebounds and went 1-1 (would have been 2-0, but Kobe hit that 3 at the buzzer) in 2 games vs. LA last year, and Lebron averaged 31.5 Points, 9 Assits, and 4.5 Rebounds and went 2-0 in 2 games vs. LA last year). Last year they dominated the Lakers

3.yes, the Lakers do in fact have the better bench, but Miami has the better rotations. Say what you want but the Lakers will not play Kobe 48 minutes a game, they will have to sit him. While they do that, Miami will always have at least 1 of Lebron James or Dwyane Wade on the court at all times. Also Lebron and Wade make everybody else around them better. They were both top 10 in assits last year.

I think at the end of the day, Miami is too much for LA, it was the same for Boston.

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 11:14 PM
Laker fans that said no one can stop Bynum or Gasol......Who can stop Lebron or Wade? Bynum and Gasol have never even been a 3rd team NBA defense, they're so overrated defensively.

:laugh:

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 11:17 PM
Man how sweet would it be if Lakers win it here in Miami! OMGZ!!!

I'd be running outside with my Kobe jersey with pots and pans screaming to the top of my lungs!

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 11:18 PM
Man how sweet would it be if Lakers win it here in Miami! OMGZ!!!

I'd be running outside with my Kobe jersey with pots and pans screaming to the top of my lungs!

Yea I could imagine, more vandalism :rolleyes:

soundjunkies2
10-02-2010, 11:22 PM
Looks like Bulls, knicks and Laker fans are voting for the Lakers.....Heat and some Cavs fans voting for Miami.....in end Lakers will win because Haters + Homers seem to realize this their only opportunity to beat the Heat. The Lakers beat the Heat once on a lucky shot last season with Wade and D league talents....they would be lucky to win a game versus Heat now. Kobe is not an efficient player, they mostly get by when they play defense but With Wade and Bron, your defense won't be enough.

So? The Lakers only beat the Celtics 1 time in the regular season and that was on a game winning shot as well but we saw how that turned out for Boston. And the season before that the Magic swept the season series against the Lakers but lost in the finals to them.

So i don't really see why you bring up last season when these are 2 totally different teams.

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 11:27 PM
Yea I could imagine, more vandalism :rolleyes:


:laugh2:

mohye
10-02-2010, 11:29 PM
If Lakers are healthy Miami has no chance at all... Lakers have too much size for Miami to have a shot...

Jewelz0376
10-02-2010, 11:31 PM
Looks like Bulls, knicks and Laker fans are voting for the Lakers.....Heat and some Cavs fans voting for Miami.....in end Lakers will win because Haters + Homers seem to realize this their only opportunity to beat the Heat. The Lakers beat the Heat once on a lucky shot last season with Wade and D league talents....they would be lucky to win a game versus Heat now. Kobe is not an efficient player, they mostly get by when they play defense but With Wade and Bron, your defense won't be enough.

Playing the Lakers in the reg season and playing them in the playoffs are two completely different things...

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 11:31 PM
If Lakers are healthy Miami has no chance at all... Lakers have too much size for Miami to have a shot...

really? Miami has the top 2 players in the league and they have no shot at all? You dont even take it into account that Wade and Lebron would get Bynum into so much foul trouble. One game last year I remember Bynum got 4 fouls in 9 minutes. 4 fouls in 9 minutes what do you think will happen with Wade and Lebron attacking the rim at will?

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:32 PM
People are talking about Bynum and Gasol...

Gasol meet Bosh...he's essentially your equal.

Bynum meet injury. What have you EVER done in the finals?...

If the Lakers win it will be because of team defense and exploiting the slight advantage in the post.

I think if you stick Bosh and Haslem out there with Miller Lebron and Wade on the perimeter the advantage is neutralized...lebron or wade will be free to roam since the Lakers don't have much at PG and they should be able to deny...

Jenceman
10-02-2010, 11:33 PM
Heat in 5.

If Thunder can take the Lakers to 7, Heat would probably sweep that team. But I am been generous, so I'll say they win a game.

Since when did that happen? Anyways, you're such a troll.

****ing hate Bandwagoners.

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 11:38 PM
Since when did that happen? Anyways, you're such a troll.

****ing hate Bandwagoners.

I actually live in Miami and you have no idea how bad it is right now.

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:41 PM
I actually live in Miami and you have no idea how bad it is right now.

:cry:

then dont watch

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 11:43 PM
:cry:

then dont watch

lol

that phrase doesn't apply to my post

:D

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:44 PM
then dont watch my posts if they don't apply

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 11:45 PM
the Lakers are going to win this poll, but Miami would win this series.

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:45 PM
the Lakers are going to win this poll, but Miami would win this series.

then dont watch the poll

still1ballin
10-02-2010, 11:46 PM
then dont watch my posts if they don't apply

:facepalm:

ball4reel
10-02-2010, 11:49 PM
lakers in 6

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:49 PM
lakers in 6

4reelbro?

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 11:50 PM
then dont watch the poll

Im not taking anything away from LA here, but I would like to see this poll with nobody's oppinion flawed because of hate. I expect the Lakers to end up winning this poll by quite a bit, without the hate the Lakers still might win, but it would be very very close....

kjoke
10-02-2010, 11:51 PM
i think everyone knew how this whole "psd playoffs" was gonna go, its obvious that theres more fans of one team than the other

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:51 PM
I think if the Heat could find a way to make a move for Brian Cardinal this would be a clean sweep.

See what I did there?

TylerSL
10-02-2010, 11:54 PM
i think everyone knew how this whole "psd playoffs" was gonna go, its obvious that theres more fans of one team than the other

exactly, exept I figured Boston would have beat Miami. All this really is is a popularity contest. Last time I checked Miami isnt that popular.

beasted86
10-02-2010, 11:55 PM
Lakers and celtics/ magics have kept the same nucleus and have gotten better in the offseason, miami blew up thier whole roster. Thats what he meant by heat havent played a game yet. duh

Well can you explain to me why the San Antonio Spurs haven't won any more championships since 2007?

Thank you, good night.

footballer2369
10-02-2010, 11:56 PM
Miami is like the attractive homosexual of the NBA...

Jewelz0376
10-02-2010, 11:58 PM
Miami is like the attractive homosexual of the NBA...

uhhh how do you figure that?? lol

footballer2369
10-03-2010, 12:01 AM
Miami is like the Vince D'onofrio of world basketball.

DMasta718
10-03-2010, 12:03 AM
Maybe you people will finally get your Kobe vs. Lebron matchup in the finals after all these years haha. I choose Lakers in 7.

_KB24_
10-03-2010, 12:14 AM
Man how sweet would it be if Lakers win it here in Miami! OMGZ!!!

I'd be running outside with my Kobe jersey with pots and pans screaming to the top of my lungs!

How about we all come down here to visit you!? :clap:

We'll have our mini victory parade down their courtesy of still1ballin! :laugh2:

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 12:21 AM
How about we all come down here to visit you!? :clap:

We'll have our mini victory parade down their courtesy of still1ballin! :laugh2:

1. This is why nobody likes LA fans, you guys are classless. "If we win game 7 in Miami, lets celebrate in Miami"

2. If you all did that you would surely get ur ***** kicked....

Knicks21
10-03-2010, 12:27 AM
Yes. Boston had the highest amount of votes in it's single option, however Miami had the highest total votes. So the winner is the one who has the most votes total, not the one necesarrily who has the most votes in 1 single option.

Did we change the rules? I thought it was the team who had the highest amount votes in one option. Not who had the most amount of total votes. :shrug:

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 12:28 AM
another reason I call LA fans classless is remember what happened after they beat Boston in game 7? Remember all the vandalism that they did? After the first hours of the Lakers winning game 7, the police arrested 9 people. Smashed windows and buildings, and damage to vehicles. Gunfire near the Staples Center. There was also a standoff between fans and police officers after a crowd pulled down a traffic sign and 2 newspaper stands and newspapers on fire. Some fans were also posing for pictures using a police line as backround. LA fans are the definion of classless!

Hustla23
10-03-2010, 12:34 AM
It's hard to vote against the Heat since they're unbelievably talented.

But I'll reiterate the idea that Bynum is the X-factor. As cheesy as that sounds, it really is true.

If Bynum is actually 100%, then that is just way too much length and strength in the post between Bynum, Gasol, and Odom for the weak Heat frontcourt to handle.

And as we know, if you can win the paint, you have a very good chance of winning the game, and if done in successive games, the series.

LeBitteNoir
10-03-2010, 12:35 AM
Miami in 1. After a 168-42 blowout in Game 1 of the Finals, Kobe, Phil Jackson, and Jack Nicholson get on their knees in subjugation and blow Wade, Pat Riley, and LeBron, respectively.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 12:38 AM
It's hard to vote against the Heat since they're unbelievably talented.

But I'll reiterate the idea that Bynum is the X-factor. As cheesy as that sounds, it really is true.

If Bynum is actually 100%, then that is just way too much length and strength in the post between Bynum, Gasol, and Odom for the weak Heat frontcourt to handle.

And as we know, if you can win the paint, you have a very good chance of winning the game, and if done in successive games, the series.

I agree that Bynum would be an X-Factor, but the fact is even if he was healthy he would pick up fouls almost as fast as Howard.

soundjunkies2
10-03-2010, 12:39 AM
another reason I call LA fans classless is remember what happened after they beat Boston in game 7? Remember all the vandalism that they did? After the first hours of the Lakers winning game 7, the police arrested 9 people. Smashed windows and buildings, and damage to vehicles. Gunfire near the Staples Center. There was also a standoff between fans and police officers after a crowd pulled down a traffic sign and 2 newspaper stands and newspapers on fire. Some fans were also posing for pictures using a police line as backround. LA fans are the definion of classless!

You can't group all Laker fans together and judge them by the idiots who do that. Just like any fan base you're going to have people like that.

JordansBulls
10-03-2010, 01:22 AM
Did we change the rules? I thought it was the team who had the highest amount votes in one option. Not who had the most amount of total votes. :shrug:

Then go read the original thread.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 01:23 AM
You can't group all Laker fans together and judge them by the idiots who do that. Just like any fan base you're going to have people like that.

il give you that one, sry if you werent part of that clique that was doing that, but it happened in LA, so it just looks bad.

Chacarron
10-03-2010, 01:32 AM
Lakers in 7.

Baller1
10-03-2010, 01:35 AM
Miami in 5 or 6. I said 6.

Rego247
10-03-2010, 01:46 AM
gotta give respect to the champs. lakeshow in 7.

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 01:47 AM
Well can you explain to me why the San Antonio Spurs haven't won any more championships since 2007?

Thank you, good night.

yeah because the lakers have thier number and have been the better team...:confused:

Knicks21
10-03-2010, 01:50 AM
Then go read the original thread.

Ahhh kk my bad, getting confused ;)

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 01:59 AM
another reason I call LA fans classless is remember what happened after they beat Boston in game 7? Remember all the vandalism that they did? After the first hours of the Lakers winning game 7, the police arrested 9 people. Smashed windows and buildings, and damage to vehicles. Gunfire near the Staples Center. There was also a standoff between fans and police officers after a crowd pulled down a traffic sign and 2 newspaper stands and newspapers on fire. Some fans were also posing for pictures using a police line as backround. LA fans are the definion of classless!
:punish Your pretty dumb, out of the millions of LA fans there was a tiny fraction out there doing dumb ****. Every fan base has retards and I resent the fact you think LA fans are classless, that just shows that you stereotype a whole group of great fans upon the actions of few, which make you infact the one who is classless, and perhaps jealous of LA's success.

Afridi786
10-03-2010, 02:01 AM
idk what the bandwagon fans will do when the Heat don't win the title this year....because it's as if it's guaranteed that they will win it all.

shep33
10-03-2010, 02:32 AM
Heat in 5.

If Thunder can take the Lakers to 7, Heat would probably sweep that team. But I am been generous, so I'll say they win a game.

Lakers in 3... Lakers would probably sweep that team. But I am "being" generous, so I'll say the 4th game Miami just forfeits because of the beatdown LA gives them...

But we all know this isn't going to happen.... LA beats Boston in 6


Yeesh... you make fun of homers like there is no tomorrow man. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but your also a homer just like most people in this forum. So I find it kinda funny, that in one of your earlier posts you made fun of homers a bit.

CHANGO
10-03-2010, 02:42 AM
Miami in 6... The C's have more opportunities with Miami than the Lakers...

HoopsDrive
10-03-2010, 02:47 AM
Heat in 6

Law25
10-03-2010, 02:54 AM
Even if 100% healthy, I haven't seen Bynum get over his foul proneness.

He'll have to both get over his injury problems, and get over his fouling problems all in one go for him to be the X factor in this type of series. I just don't see it happening... but Kobe & Gasol at their top game, and good overall Lakers defense is good enough to beat nearly anyone even if Bynum is injured.

This ( for the most part). I do see bynum's mere presence in the paint as an big advantage becuase of his big body and willingness to challege shots can change th way players attack the paint.

Law25
10-03-2010, 02:55 AM
Oh and Lakers in six.

shep33
10-03-2010, 03:14 AM
1.Bynum will be in foul trouble all series (that is if he is even healthy)

2.Artest and Kobe will not stop Wade and Lebron (Wade averaged 26.5 Points, 11.5 Assits, 6.5 Rebounds and went 1-1 (would have been 2-0, but Kobe hit that 3 at the buzzer) in 2 games vs. LA last year, and Lebron averaged 31.5 Points, 9 Assits, and 4.5 Rebounds and went 2-0 in 2 games vs. LA last year). Last year they dominated the Lakers

3.yes, the Lakers do in fact have the better bench, but Miami has the better rotations. Say what you want but the Lakers will not play Kobe 48 minutes a game, they will have to sit him. While they do that, Miami will always have at least 1 of Lebron James or Dwyane Wade on the court at all times. Also Lebron and Wade make everybody else around them better. They were both top 10 in assits last year.

I think at the end of the day, Miami is too much for LA, it was the same for Boston.


First though, regular season doesn't mean anything besides seeding.

2nd who is going to stop Kobe... cause going by your logic Kobe averaged 36 ppg vs the Heat last year, scored 39 on Wade with a Broken finger. Either way doesn't matter, regular season is overrated, Lakers played extremely inconsistent last year compared to the year before.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 04:13 AM
First though, regular season doesn't mean anything besides seeding.

2nd who is going to stop Kobe... cause going by your logic Kobe averaged 36 ppg vs the Heat last year, scored 39 on Wade with a Broken finger. Either way doesn't matter, regular season is overrated, Lakers played extremely inconsistent last year compared to the year before.

Kobe will get his points yes, but the duo of Lebron James/Dwyane Wade will score more.

_KB24_
10-03-2010, 04:32 AM
1. This is why nobody likes LA fans, you guys are classless. "If we win game 7 in Miami, lets celebrate in Miami"

2. If you all did that you would surely get ur ***** kicked....

How is that classless? You don't think the Heat fans celebrated like animals when you guys won in Dallas @ Dallas!?

Way too generalize an entire mega metropolis based on the action of maybe .00001 of the population. What, was it like 6 people who got arrested? :rolleyes:

Wade>You
10-03-2010, 04:44 AM
Wade+Tito Jacksons were 1-1 last season against the Lakers and should have been 2-0 if not for Kobe/Fisher miracles. Cavs were 2-0. Raptors were 1-1. That's 6-3 against the Lakers last season from the big 3's respective teams. Now imagine getting these guys the help they deserve.

And when in doubt, just go with the team Wade's on. ;)

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-03-2010, 05:22 AM
Looks like Bulls, knicks and Laker fans are voting for the Lakers.....Heat and some Cavs fans voting for Miami.....in end Lakers will win because Haters + Homers seem to realize this their only opportunity to beat the Heat. The Lakers beat the Heat once on a lucky shot last season with Wade and D league talents....they would be lucky to win a game versus Heat now. Kobe is not an efficient player, they mostly get by when they play defense but With Wade and Bron, your defense won't be enough.

U Mad?

Cause we beat you in an online poll:laugh2:

Crazy world we're livin' in!

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-03-2010, 05:29 AM
I think if the Heat could find a way to make a move for Brian Cardinal this would be a clean sweep.

See what I did there?

The Janitor:drool:

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 07:52 AM
Lakers in 3... Lakers would probably sweep that team. But I am "being" generous, so I'll say the 4th game Miami just forfeits because of the beatdown LA gives them...

But we all know this isn't going to happen.... LA beats Boston in 6


Yeesh... you make fun of homers like there is no tomorrow man. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but your also a homer just like most people in this forum. So I find it kinda funny, that in one of your earlier posts you made fun of homers a bit.

nice one shep...hahaha!

h2r09
10-03-2010, 09:52 AM
the heat will win the championship if the celtics dont beat them. they are the only team that can beat them. the lakers have never, ever given the heat problems even when the heat have had sub par teams.

the celtics match up with the heat the best. they will give the heat the most problems.

SB1
10-03-2010, 10:20 AM
DWade in the finals is a whole different monster that no team wants to see...ask the Mavs. Bynum's health will be key... I have the Heat in 6

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 10:26 AM
the heat will win the championship if the celtics dont beat them. they are the only team that can beat them. the lakers have never, ever given the heat problems even when the heat have had sub par teams.

the celtics match up with the heat the best. they will give the heat the most problems.

lol...very nice logic...:clap::clap::clap:

Bravo95
10-03-2010, 10:26 AM
Lakers in six.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
10-03-2010, 10:41 AM
the heat will win the championship if the celtics dont beat them. they are the only team that can beat them. the lakers have never, ever given the heat problems even when the heat have had sub par teams.

the celtics match up with the heat the best. they will give the heat the most problems.

I lol'd

michael811
10-03-2010, 10:41 AM
lakers in 5 Gasol Bynum too much for heat on the inside and playoffs games are called a lot different then in regular season game will be a lot more physical which is probably why the heat won't get past boston anyway

h2r09
10-03-2010, 10:43 AM
lol...very nice logic...:clap::clap::clap:

its true. you have never been a problem for the heat, and you dont matchup with the heat well. bynum never stays healthy so we shouldnt really worry about him unitl he proves he can stay healthy throughtout the year. after all, that is your logic for the heat playing together, that they shouldnt be picked because they havent proven they can play together yet.

YOur bigs are going to be in foul trouble all day and you dont have any advantage on the primeter like you do against every other team in the league.

the heat just have to many options for the lakers to stop. the celtics are the worst matchup for the heat though and the only team that can beat them if healthy. their intensity and defense and toughness are the only way you can beat the heat coupled with their big 4.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 10:46 AM
I lol'd

you do realize for almost evrey year even when the heat have had average or bad teams they have played the lakers extremely well just with d wade. the lakers are soft. they dont exude toughness like the celtics or other teams do. i dont know why everyone is acting like they are the toughest team in the world all of a sudden because they won the championships. that doesnt make you a tough team. im not saying they arent a great team, but dont confuse greatness with toughness.

Slimsim
10-03-2010, 11:08 AM
Miami in 7

footballer2369
10-03-2010, 11:11 AM
I vote Charlotte in 4.

MTar786
10-03-2010, 11:25 AM
just like i said last year. i thought we would see round 2 of boston vs la and whoever had HCA would win. i was right last season. this season i think its going to be either LA vs boston again or LA vs miami with miami having HCA and LA still winning that game 7

lakers split in miami 1-1
lakers win 2 of 3 in la 3-2
and split again in miami winning game seven 4-3

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 11:55 AM
you do realize for almost evrey year even when the heat have had average or bad teams they have played the lakers extremely well just with d wade. the lakers are soft. they dont exude toughness like the celtics or other teams do. i dont know why everyone is acting like they are the toughest team in the world all of a sudden because they won the championships. that doesnt make you a tough team. im not saying they arent a great team, but dont confuse greatness with toughness.

OMG....hahaha!

so your heat are tougher than LA i guess?

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 11:59 AM
its true. you have never been a problem for the heat, and you dont matchup with the heat well. bynum never stays healthy so we shouldnt really worry about him unitl he proves he can stay healthy throughtout the year. after all, that is your logic for the heat playing together, that they shouldnt be picked because they havent proven they can play together yet.

YOur bigs are going to be in foul trouble all day and you dont have any advantage on the primeter like you do against every other team in the league.

the heat just have to many options for the lakers to stop. the celtics are the worst matchup for the heat though and the only team that can beat them if healthy. their intensity and defense and toughness are the only way you can beat the heat coupled with their big 4.

wow:facepalm:

Who said LA has an advantage in the perimeter in the 1st place?

Many options? OMG....you drunk or what?:speechless:

Geargo Wallace
10-03-2010, 12:24 PM
The Heat would make quick news of the Lakers. Heat in 5.

Storch
10-03-2010, 12:39 PM
I like how heat fans are saying that the laker bigs are going to be in foul trouble. The season is called very softly, so physical play is prohibited. Playoff series get more intense and toughness and physical play is promoted. In the finals, you have to bring the muscle because petty fouls dont get called.

Are you miami fans saying that our bigs are going to get into foul trouble in the finals? Don't count on it. The heat are much softer than the Lakers at this point, and they're going to be banged around by every player on every position. All of the Celtic bigs should have been fouled out because they were basically clotheslining our players, but not in the finals. It just doesn't work that way, sorry guys.

Bynum is tougher than any of your centers.
Gasol/Odom are just as physical as bosh, if not tougher. They know how to play in the finals against the celtics.
Artest will be physical against lebron, count on it.
Kobe has harrassed wade before, full court press. Count on that type of play in at least 2 full quarters.
Fish is stronger than any of your point guards and he's really physical, ask dwill.

Need I mention that Barnes and Blake are premier perimeter defenders? Theo ratliff, defensive post player. Shannon Brown, is known for his defense and quickness. We have several players to rotate on you're players for a full 48 minutes of solid defense, what do you guys have on defense? The big 3, mario chalmers, and zydrunas ilgauskas? :laugh2:

The bottom line is that the Lakers know how to play playoff basketball. They know how to flip the switch, and they've experienced the celtics. I see the Lakers being the bullies against the Heat in the finals, and it's going to be a great thing to watch.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 01:08 PM
OMG....hahaha!

so your heat are tougher than LA i guess?

how are the lakers tough at all? they dont play very physically. there is nothing risky about saying that. lakers fans need to realize that just because you won the title, doesnt mean you are all of a sudden the perfect team. 2 years ago you guys had huge question marks with your toughness. just because you win doesnt make you tough, it means you are good enough to overcome that. stop confusing toughness with greatness.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 01:10 PM
I like how heat fans are saying that the laker bigs are going to be in foul trouble. The season is called very softly, so physical play is prohibited. Playoff series get more intense and toughness and physical play is promoted. In the finals, you have to bring the muscle because petty fouls dont get called.

Are you miami fans saying that our bigs are going to get into foul trouble in the finals? Don't count on it. The heat are much softer than the Lakers at this point, and they're going to be banged around by every player on every position. All of the Celtic bigs should have been fouled out because they were basically clotheslining our players, but not in the finals. It just doesn't work that way, sorry guys.

Bynum is tougher than any of your centers.
Gasol/Odom are just as physical as bosh, if not tougher. They know how to play in the finals against the celtics.
Artest will be physical against lebron, count on it.
Kobe has harrassed wade before, full court press. Count on that type of play in at least 2 full quarters.
Fish is stronger than any of your point guards and he's really physical, ask dwill.

Need I mention that Barnes and Blake are premier perimeter defenders? Theo ratliff, defensive post player. Shannon Brown, is known for his defense and quickness. We have several players to rotate on you're players for a full 48 minutes of solid defense, what do you guys have on defense? The big 3, mario chalmers, and zydrunas ilgauskas? :laugh2:

The bottom line is that the Lakers know how to play playoff basketball. They know how to flip the switch, and they've experienced the celtics. I see the Lakers being the bullies against the Heat in the finals, and it's going to be a great thing to watch.

hahahahahahaha. steve blake isnt, nor has he ever been a premier perimeter defender, and neither has barnes. blake isnt close and barnes is nothing more than an agitator. theo ratliff is going to be in a wheelchair on the floor and shannon brown is essentially trevor ariza in the beginning of his career when he was on the knicks.

and our defense will be one of the tops in the league, you can guarantee that.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 01:14 PM
wow:facepalm:

Who said LA has an advantage in the perimeter in the 1st place?

Many options? OMG....you drunk or what?:speechless:

ya, many options. bosh, wade, james, mike miller wide open in the corner, udonis with even more wide open corner jumpers, eddie house wide open all day, mario chalmers open all day, james jones open 3's.

there is no way to contain the big 3 if it was 3 on 5, let alone late in the game when you have mike miller on the perimeter and udonis with his clutch jumpers. add to that the fgact that you have 3 other superstars who can do what they want at most times and ya, id say we have many options.

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 01:22 PM
how are the lakers tough at all? they dont play very physically. there is nothing risky about saying that. lakers fans need to realize that just because you won the title, doesnt mean you are all of a sudden the perfect team. 2 years ago you guys had huge question marks with your toughness. just because you win doesnt make you tough, it means you are good enough to overcome that. stop confusing toughness with greatness.

Can you define toughness yourself? Have you watch the Playoffs for the last 2 years...If your saying the Lakers are soft you must be out of your mind at all..

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 01:27 PM
ya, many options. bosh, wade, james, mike miller wide open in the corner, udonis with even more wide open corner jumpers, eddie house wide open all day, mario chalmers open all day, james jones open 3's.

there is no way to contain the big 3 if it was 3 on 5, let alone late in the game when you have mike miller on the perimeter and udonis with his clutch jumpers. add to that the fgact that you have 3 other superstars who can do what they want at most times and ya, id say we have many options.

Kobe..Pau..Bynum..Artest...odom...fisher...blake.. Barnes..Brown... Need to say more? We already contain the big 4...So why would we worry about containing the big 3? It would not be a problem at all...We upgraded our bench..

yeah...Also no way you contain Gasol and Bynum down low with haslem and bosh...We got Kobe and artest to guard 2 of those players...

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 01:28 PM
ah enough of this...

See you in the finals...Worry about the C's first...

Jonathan2323
10-03-2010, 01:35 PM
The poll results are not surprising since the HEAT have yet to play a game.

mikealike305
10-03-2010, 01:38 PM
heat in 6... maybe 5

footballer2369
10-03-2010, 01:38 PM
We have several players to rotate on you're players for a full 48 minutes of solid defense, what do you guys have on defense? The big 3, mario chalmers, and zydrunas ilgauskas? :laugh2:


You'll find out soon enough but Joel Anthony is a nearly elite defender at the center position. Udonis Haslem is a high quality defender. Patrick Beverly is one of the best PG defenders I've seen, Dasean Butler should grow into a quality perimeter defender ala Barnes and Pittman has the potential to be Perkinsesque.

Defense will certainly not be an issue. I fully expect the Heat defense to be ranked 1st overall.

mikealike305
10-03-2010, 01:39 PM
but most likly 4

actully is there a mercy rule in the NBA? like will they win in 3 or 2 if their big enough blow outs by the heat? lol jk i think heat in 6

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 01:43 PM
you do realize for almost evrey year even when the heat have had average or bad teams they have played the lakers extremely well just with d wade. the lakers are soft. they dont exude toughness like the celtics or other teams do. i dont know why everyone is acting like they are the toughest team in the world all of a sudden because they won the championships. that doesnt make you a tough team. im not saying they arent a great team, but dont confuse greatness with toughness.

The heats biggest advantage is the perimeter and that just so happens to be where the lakers have the most toughness and defense, kobe, artest, barnes, fish..The heat will have a tough defender on them all game, that cant be said the other way around.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 01:43 PM
Kobe..Pau..Bynum..Artest...odom...fisher...blake.. Barnes..Brown... Need to say more? We already contain the big 4...So why would we worry about containing the big 3? It would not be a problem at all...We upgraded our bench..

yeah...Also no way you contain Gasol and Bynum down low with haslem and bosh...We got Kobe and artest to guard 2 of those players...

dude, brown is awful offensively. all he is is athletic. barnes and blake are not really great offensively sso outside of your key 6 you have nothing to brag about.

how about our big 3 are better than their big 4 offensively and much harder to contain.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 01:46 PM
Can you define toughness yourself? Have you watch the Playoffs for the last 2 years...If your saying the Lakers are soft you must be out of your mind at all..

you arent tough at all. you have length. stop confusing a great team and good length with toughness. the celtics are tough. you are not. just because you win a championship doesnt automatically turn you into a tough team down low.


gasol is still the same player he was. hes not soft but he isnt tough like a KG or a Perkins and bynum is a toothpick who isnt worth talking about since he cant stay healthy.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 01:47 PM
The heats biggest advantage is the perimeter and that just so happens to be where the lakers have the most toughness and defense, kobe, artest, barnes, fish..The heat will have a tough defender on them all game, that cant be said the other way around.

that cant be saide the other way around? you are a joke. how about lebron and d wade. stop calling barnes a great defender, he is nothing more than an agitator. and fisher? hahahaha. wait a minute i think rondo just went by him again.

Raps08-09 Champ
10-03-2010, 01:48 PM
Why do some Lakers fans say they expect the Heat to win 6 games but each year always give a reason for the Lakers to beat them?

slimwolf82
10-03-2010, 01:50 PM
heat in five. kobe will probably go off in 1 game out of frustration, lol. so many haters out there. Im a heat fan, but now i understand how it feels to be hated by everyone. and im speaking about the lakers. evryone is just jealous. if you cant stand the heat, then stay out the kitchen.

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 02:02 PM
you arent tough at all. you have length. stop confusing a great team and good length with toughness. the celtics are tough. you are not. just because you win a championship doesnt automatically turn you into a tough team down low.


gasol is still the same player he was. hes not soft but he isnt tough like a KG or a Perkins and bynum is a toothpick who isnt worth talking about since he cant stay healthy.

ok ok...smart guy....watch the nBA before saying who's tough and who's not...so kobe.,barnes and artest are sisies? lol:speechless:

ManningToTyree
10-03-2010, 02:10 PM
Heat can't match lakers down low. Lakers in 7

h2r09
10-03-2010, 02:11 PM
ok ok...smart guy....watch the nBA before saying who's tough and who's not...so kobe.,barnes and artest are sisies? lol:speechless:

how old are you? you come off as a 5 year old. 3 players do not make a team, and they might not be soft but down low you arent tough as you make your team out to be. byum and gasol are not close to KG and perkins toughness wise.

and ive had season tickets for the past 7 seasons and been watching basketball for much more so ya, ive seen the NBA before.

sincerely,

smart guy

mohye
10-03-2010, 02:12 PM
The funniest thing is gona be when the Lakers play the Celtics in the finals....Miami isnt tough enough to make it to the finals to play the Lakers...Bosh/Anthony/Haslem/Big Z/JHoward...thats one of the weakest front lines of any title contending team...

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 02:20 PM
The funniest thing is gona be when the Lakers play the Celtics in the finals....Miami isnt tough enough to make it to the finals to play the Lakers...Bosh/Anthony/Haslem/Big Z/JHoward...thats one of the weakest front lines of any title contending team...

no...your wrong my friend..Miami is a very very tough team per smart guy..

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 02:26 PM
how old are you? you come off as a 5 year old. 3 players do not make a team, and they might not be soft but down low you arent tough as you make your team out to be. byum and gasol are not close to KG and perkins toughness wise.

and ive had season tickets for the past 7 seasons and been watching basketball for much more so ya, ive seen the NBA before.

sincerely,

smart guy

Me? i have been watching basketball for 17 years...Who said they are as tough as kg and perk? those 2 are the toughest bigs in the nba no doubt...As for LA's big they are of one of the toughest big guys in the game and could be ranked within the top 5-8 in the nba.. 3 players only? what about fisher? blake? they may not be the best defender in their positions but they are known as hard nosed defenders...Just ask dwill about dfish...haha! as for your team you haven't answered my ? so are the heat a tough team?

brodawgs
10-03-2010, 02:32 PM
The ONLY valid analysis that you can provide for this matchup is that you cannot double cover Bosh, Wade, and James all at the same time. Because of this mathematical impossibility, no one will beat the heat in a series. You cannot justify outscoring the Heat by 30+ points when two of them are out at the same time for the maximum 5-6 minutes that it happens, because when all of them are in, they will be outscoring any team by at least 3-4 points per minute.

mohye
10-03-2010, 02:43 PM
The ONLY valid analysis that you can provide for this matchup is that you cannot double cover Bosh, Wade, and James all at the same time. Because of this mathematical impossibility, no one will beat the heat in a series. You cannot justify outscoring the Heat by 30+ points when two of them are out at the same time for the maximum 5-6 minutes that it happens, because when all of them are in, they will be outscoring any team by at least 3-4 points per minute.

So according to your calculation the Heat should win every game by an average of more then 100 points or so..

3-4 points per minute X lets say 35 mins together for the big 3
3 X 35 = 105
4 X 35 = 140

LMAO at your "valid analysis"

:facepalm: :clap: :speechless::speechless::speechless:

lakers4sho
10-03-2010, 02:53 PM
The ONLY valid analysis that you can provide for this matchup is that you cannot double cover Bosh, Wade, and James all at the same time. Because of this mathematical impossibility, no one will beat the heat in a series. You cannot justify outscoring the Heat by 30+ points when two of them are out at the same time for the maximum 5-6 minutes that it happens, because when all of them are in, they will be outscoring any team by at least 3-4 points per minute.

:laugh:

I literally lol'd for a good minute there...thanks for the laugh totally made my day :up:

h2r09
10-03-2010, 03:24 PM
Me? i have been watching basketball for 17 years...Who said they are as tough as kg and perk? those 2 are the toughest bigs in the nba no doubt...As for LA's big they are of one of the toughest big guys in the game and could be ranked within the top 5-8 in the nba.. 3 players only? what about fisher? blake? they may not be the best defender in their positions but they are known as hard nosed defenders...Just ask dwill about dfish...haha! as for your team you haven't answered my ? so are the heat a tough team?

how at all are bynum and gasol tough? gasol is a great player, no doubt, but he isnt tough all of the sudden because he won 2 titles. and dont get me started on bynum. the opposite of tough.

and the heat will be a tough team when bosh gets into the culture of the team following udonis and joel who are 2 very tough players. im not saying the heat are a tough team or are tougher than the lakers though. im just saying that you need to stop acting as if the lakers are a tough team down low. you are confusing length for toughness.

while you ask d will ill ask rondo. and blake is not known for being a hard nosed defender. stop fooling yourself. he is average at just about everything. good backup pg, but nothing special defensively, not sure where you are getting that.

kjoke
10-03-2010, 03:24 PM
:laugh:

I literally lol'd for a good minute there...thanks for the laugh totally made my day :up:

funny sig

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 03:34 PM
how at all are bynum and gasol tough? gasol is a great player, no doubt, but he isnt tough all of the sudden because he won 2 titles. and dont get me started on bynum. the opposite of tough.

and the heat will be a tough team when bosh gets into the culture of the team following udonis and joel who are 2 very tough players. im not saying the heat are a tough team or are tougher than the lakers though. im just saying that you need to stop acting as if the lakers are a tough team down low. you are confusing length for toughness.

while you ask d will ill ask rondo. and blake is not known for being a hard nosed defender. stop fooling yourself. he is average at just about everything. good backup pg, but nothing special defensively, not sure where you are getting that.

first of all..how do you define toughness? fisher and blake not tough..hahaha...ok..it seems for you only KG and perk are tough..so if that is your logic your heat team should never be acquainted with the word tough at all...

ShaqShoes
10-03-2010, 03:37 PM
I thought this would have been a lot closer.

soundjunkies2
10-03-2010, 03:45 PM
heat in five. kobe will probably go off in 1 game out of frustration, lol. so many haters out there. Im a heat fan, but now i understand how it feels to be hated by everyone. and im speaking about the lakers. evryone is just jealous. if you cant stand the heat, then stay out the kitchen.

So many hatters! Of course the hatters are going to choose the team thats won back to back titles over a team that hasn't even played an NBA game together yet..Some hatters right there. :pity:

DeZonia
10-03-2010, 03:50 PM
how are the lakers tough at all? they dont play very physically. there is nothing risky about saying that. lakers fans need to realize that just because you won the title, doesnt mean you are all of a sudden the perfect team. 2 years ago you guys had huge question marks with your toughness. just because you win doesnt make you tough, it means you are good enough to overcome that. stop confusing toughness with greatness.

REALLY???? Coming from Heat fans, your team hasn't even played one game together, maybe HEAT fans should REALIZE that just because you got 2 stars a good but soft big (with bad defense) doesn't mean you are perfect. You act like we have no defense on lebron and wade.. Come on, Artest and Kobe are known to be some of the best defenders in the league... am i wrong?

REALIZE that you aren't unstoppable and have a lot of weak points.

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 03:53 PM
REALLY???? Coming from Heat fan, your team hasn't even played one game together, maybe HEAT fans should REALIZE that just because you got 2 stars a good but soft big (with bad defense) doesn't mean you are perfect. You act like we have no defense on lebron and wade.. Come on, Artest and Kobe are known to be some of the best defenders in the league... am i wrong?

REALIZE that you aren't unstoppable and have a lot of weak points.

I don't even think he realize that..

DeZonia
10-03-2010, 03:57 PM
how old are you? you come off as a 5 year old. 3 players do not make a team, and they might not be soft but down low you arent tough as you make your team out to be. byum and gasol are not close to KG and perkins toughness wise.

and ive had season tickets for the past 7 seasons and been watching basketball for much more so ya, ive seen the NBA before.

sincerely,

smart guy

Is this really coming from a heat fan? This made me LOL

$KnicksAndKobe$
10-03-2010, 04:06 PM
3 players do not make a team

Is this really coming from a heat fan? This made me LOL

:clap::clap::clap:

h2r09
10-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Is this really coming from a heat fan? This made me LOL

the heat have much more than 3 players. we have a top 3 pt threat in the league, a good combo guard to it 3's and play solid defense in chalmers, a tough warrior in udonis, joel anthony who will be recognized as a top shot blocker very quickly, carlos arroyo who is a damn good pg offensively, james jones is a good defender and knockdown 3 point shooter, eddie house is a great shooter, and the 2 backup centers bring something to the table as well.

we have a very good cast of role players around the big 3.

h2r09
10-03-2010, 05:10 PM
REALLY???? Coming from Heat fans, your team hasn't even played one game together, maybe HEAT fans should REALIZE that just because you got 2 stars a good but soft big (with bad defense) doesn't mean you are perfect. You act like we have no defense on lebron and wade.. Come on, Artest and Kobe are known to be some of the best defenders in the league... am i wrong?

REALIZE that you aren't unstoppable and have a lot of weak points.

haha, a lot of weak points? name them. the only one is the lack of size which wont be a huge issue as joel can guard the top centers and at the end of the game id take bosh and haslem over most duos in the league.

DeZonia
10-03-2010, 05:12 PM
haha, a lot of weak points? name them. the only one is the lack of size which wont be a huge issue as joel can guard the top centers and at the end of the game id take bosh and haslem over most duos in the league.

We aren't talking about Most duos, we are talking about the top teams in the league. Millers defense will hurt you a lot. Especially vs the celtics.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 05:17 PM
look all this is is a popularity contest. Nobody likes the Heat, im suprised the were voted passed the C's. It was somewhat close against the Bulls in the 2nd round :facepalm:.

but to stay on topic, Heat in 6

h2r09
10-03-2010, 05:18 PM
We aren't talking about Most duos, we are talking about the top teams in the league. Millers defense will hurt you a lot. Especially vs the celtics.

miller is average on defense. he isnt great but he is certainly no liability. he wont be guarding their top players. it will probably be lebron/wade on rondo, chalmers on ray allen, and lebron/wade on pierce.

IversonIsKrazy
10-03-2010, 05:28 PM
If everyone is healthy, I got LA in 6. Bynum, Gasol, Odom is just too big for Bosh and mia's bigs. Kobe will out-preform Wade. LA would just be too big for MIA, out-rebound them every-nite, they won't go past Boston. But if this was the case, Lake Show in 6

Geargo Wallace
10-03-2010, 05:32 PM
SouljaPhill is a Yankees and a Lakers fan... need I say more?

MTar786
10-03-2010, 06:09 PM
bosh is wayyyyy too thin and the heat have a very small center and absolutely no toughness. this is the only thing that stops them from beating LA. otherwise miami would prob win this series

bynum, pau and odom will be way too much for bosh, haslem, big z, magloire and anthony

if they're smart theyd get rid of haslem and magloire for a guy like varajeo. people dont realize how tough he really is. adds energy and gives his all. good rebounder too then get a guy like ben wallace. he may be old.. but i think he could really help them till next season when they sign another center who is younger and isnt a shell of himself

Jonathan2323
10-03-2010, 06:13 PM
bosh is wayyyyy too thin and the heat have a very small center and absolutely no toughness. this is the only thing that stops them from beating LA. otherwise miami would prob win this series

bynum, pau and odom will be way too much for bosh, haslem, big z, magloire and anthony

if they're smart theyd get rid of haslem and magloire for a guy like varajeo. people dont realize how tough he really is. adds energy and gives his all. good rebounder too then get a guy like ben wallace. he may be old.. but i think he could really help them till next season when they sign another center who is younger and isnt a shell of himself

You don't know what you are talking about.

Im not worried about any team in the league. If the HEAT have chemistry its OVER.

Geargo Wallace
10-03-2010, 06:35 PM
You don't know what you are talking about.

Im not worried about any team in the league. If the HEAT have chemistry its OVER.

x2

DeZonia
10-03-2010, 06:38 PM
You don't know what you are talking about.

Im not worried about any team in the league. If the HEAT have chemistry its OVER.

LOL nope, there are a lot of VERY good COMPLETE teams out there. It isn't over, sorry.... Even if they make perfect chemistry this season.

As long as the Lakers and Celtics are around it won't be "over" sorry bro

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 07:44 PM
You don't know what you are talking about.

Im not worried about any team in the league. If the HEAT have chemistry its OVER.
I thought the same thing about the lakers in 04 lol.

footballer2369
10-03-2010, 07:51 PM
lol @ getting rid of haslem.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 08:39 PM
:facepalm: to the guy that said get rid of Halsem for Varajeo. When the guy thought was explaining Varajeo he was really explaining Haslem. Haslem>Varajeo

SouljahPhil...
10-03-2010, 08:41 PM
SouljaPhill is a Yankees and a Lakers fan... need I say more?

So what you saying dude? check my profile before you say some ****...

I don't wanna elaborate things like that on a newbie like you...

LOL:facepalm:

Venomous88
10-03-2010, 08:48 PM
I expect the Lakers to win this poll, but I'm going with the Heat in 6

daleja424
10-03-2010, 08:59 PM
The people have spoken. The Lakers are the 2010-2011 paper champs.

I dont want to hear anyone say anything if the HEAT don't win this year since you are all picking them not to. You can't expect them to lose and then look down on them for not winning.

still1ballin
10-03-2010, 09:05 PM
The people have spoken. The Lakers are the 2010-2011 paper champs.

I dont want to hear anyone say anything if the HEAT don't win this year since you are all picking them not to. You can't expect them to lose and then look down on them for not winning.


LOL paper champs? What in the hell are you talking about? If anything the Heat are paper champs because they haven't even played a single game together mah man:laugh2:

Don't cry just because you are losing in a stupid vote.

Storch
10-03-2010, 09:07 PM
The people have spoken. The Lakers are the 2010-2011 paper champs.

I dont want to hear anyone say anything if the HEAT don't win this year since you are all picking them not to. You can't expect them to lose and then look down on them for not winning.

They're going to lose, and it's expected. There, i said it.. happy now?

Storch
10-03-2010, 09:08 PM
The people have spoken. The Lakers are the 2010-2011 paper champs.

I dont want to hear anyone say anything if the HEAT don't win this year since you are all picking them not to. You can't expect them to lose and then look down on them for not winning.

LOL at you're bitterness and effort to hide in in your words in calling the LAkers paper champs.

You're a very biased mod. :rolleyes:

DeZonia
10-03-2010, 09:08 PM
LOL paper champs? What in the hell are you talking about? If anything the Heat are paper champs because they haven't even played a single game together mah man:laugh2:

Don't cry just because you are losing in a stupid vote.

:clap: Seriously Cry and cry and cry some more... :clap:

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 09:15 PM
well ofcourse the lakers won this poll, who else has been to the last 3 finals winning 2 of them and only got deeper over the summer with a serious chance of a 3peat?

Storch
10-03-2010, 09:17 PM
This thread result turned out the right away. The champs should be the team to beat until proven otherwise. Because, truthfully speaking they won it last year and in the Lakers' case they won it twice in a row.

The heat is a great team, but we'll see how great they are in the playoffs.

LeBitteNoir
10-03-2010, 09:18 PM
The Miami Heat will ejaculate all over Jack Nicholson. There. I said it.

Jonathan2323
10-03-2010, 09:22 PM
This thread result turned out the right away. The champs should be the team to beat until proven otherwise. Because, truthfully speaking they won it last year and in the Lakers' case they won it twice in a row.

The heat is a great team, but we'll see how great they are in the playoffs.

The Lakers are the team to beat because they are the champions, but everyone knows who's the real team to beat. Eveyone wants to beat the HEAT more so than the Lakers this year.

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 09:26 PM
The Lakers are the team to beat because they are the champions, but everyone knows who's the real team to beat. Eveyone wants to beat the HEAT more so than the Lakers this year.

Yeah they wanna beat the heat to show them it takes more than 3 dudes to win a title in this league, it takes a deep, talented, tough TEAM.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 09:29 PM
dude Laker fans taking shots at daleja, he is right. He is not whinning that were going to lose this vote. He is frustrated like alot of Heat fans that people say this team wont win, but then say if they dont win at least 6 titles in a row then they fail. Also dont say the Heat are the projected favorites if everybody is picking the Lakers to 3 peat, because that would be contradicting yourself.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 09:30 PM
Yeah they wanna beat the heat to show them it takes more than 3 dudes to win a title in this league, it takes a deep, talented, tough TEAM.

so the Heat are not talented? LOL! Also the Heat are deep, and you will suprised by their toughness as well.

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 09:40 PM
so the Heat are not talented? LOL! Also the Heat are deep, and you will suprised by their toughness as well.

you bolded the wrong term, look again its a four letter word, all caps..
lol @ deep though. :laugh2:

Storch
10-03-2010, 09:40 PM
so the Heat are not talented? LOL! Also the Heat are deep, and you will suprised by their toughness as well.

:laugh2: deeply in trouble when they play deep teams is more like it.

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 09:47 PM
dude Laker fans taking shots at daleja, he is right. He is not whinning that were going to lose this vote. He is frustrated like alot of Heat fans that people say this team wont win, but then say if they dont win at least 6 titles in a row then they fail. Also dont say the Heat are the projected favorites if everybody is picking the Lakers to 3 peat, because that would be contradicting yourself.

I dont expect the heat to do jack $%^& but im a laker fan so i know what it takes to win a title, although most will see them as a failure if they dont win because of all the hype surrounding them and all the heat fans and media crowning them already, however i dont give in to hype. so how is this a contradiction? I dont expect the world to end in 2012, and if it doesnt then everyone who thought it would are failed. simple.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 09:54 PM
you bolded the wrong term, look again its a four letter word, all caps..
lol @ deep though. :laugh2:

Lebron James-highest PER (31.1) TS% 604% eFG% 545%

Dwyane Wade- 2nd highest PER (28.0) TS% 562% eFG% 500%

Chris Bosh-4th highest PER (25.0) TS% 592% eFG% 522%

Udonis Haslem-lead the league in double doubles off the bench last season

Mike Miller-3rd in TS% last year, and is a pure jumpshooter (TS% 623%) only behind 1.Nene and 2.Dwight. They only have high TS% because all they do is dunk and layups

Carlos Arroyo-highest Assist/Turnover ratio in the league last season (4.16)

Eddie House-career .390% from the 3

Joel Anthony-Block% of 6.7% last year (Howard only had Block% of 6.0%, aka Anthony was a better shot blocker than Howard last year.)

Mario Chalmers-career Steal% of 3.0% (thats really good)

James Jones-career .395% from 3, career TS% of 550%

Big Z-A 7'3 giant that will at least make some room in the post

If thats not deep than I cant tell you any team that is deep.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 09:57 PM
I dont expect the heat to do jack $%^& but im a laker fan so i know what it takes to win a title, although most will see them as a failure if they dont win because of all the hype surrounding them and all the heat fans and media crowning them already, however i dont give in to hype. so how is this a contradiction? I dont expect the world to end in 2012, and if it doesnt then everyone who thought it would are failed. simple.

again like daleja said, if you really dont believe the Heat are not going to win then youre not contradicting yourself but if you say how they wont win, but then turn around and say o well they were the favorites and they blew it when you dont expect them to win. That would be contradicting youself.

DeZonia
10-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Lebron James-highest PER (31.1) TS% 604% eFG% 545%

Dwyane Wade- 2nd highest PER (28.0) TS% 562% eFG% 500%

Chris Bosh-4th highest PER (25.0) TS% 592% eFG% 522%

Udonis Haslem-lead the league in double doubles off the bench last season

Mike Miller-3rd in TS% last year, and is a pure jumpshooter (TS% 623%) only behind 1.Nene and 2.Dwight. They only have high TS% because all they do is dunk and layups

Carlos Arroyo-highest Assist/Turnover ratio in the league last season (4.16)

Eddie House-career .390% from the 3

Joel Anthony-Block% of 6.7% last year (Howard only had Block% of 6.0%, aka Anthony was a better shot blocker than Howard last year.)

Mario Chalmers-career Steal% of 3.0% (thats really good)

James Jones-career .395% from 3, career TS% of 550%

Big Z-A 7'3 giant that will at least make some room in the post

If thats not deep than I cant tell you any team that is deep.

Really? You can't put players up there because they can do 1 thing and call the team deep, we could do that for every team. So by your standards every team is deep.

NBA is offense and defense.

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 10:12 PM
sweet name calling man! :clap:
I personally dont care when you joined, I just think its interesting that you have joined in the same month as alot of the other heat "fans" who just so happen to be the most uninsightful and useless posters on psd nowadays.

TylerSL
10-03-2010, 10:12 PM
Really? You can't put players up there because they can do 1 thing and call the team deep, we could do that for every team. So by your standards every team is deep.

NBA is offense and defense.

ok I went by their roles on the team

Wade/Lebron/Bosh-their roles are to be the leaders
Bosh/Haslem/Joel/Big Z-their roles are to be the frontcourt
Arroyo/Chalmers-their roles are to run the point
Miller/Jones/House/Chalmers-their role is to hit the open 3
Chalmers-He will provide key steals

I put some players on here more than once because they have more than just 1 role on the team

footballer2369
10-03-2010, 10:19 PM
The quality of this discussion is beyond anything I've ever seen.

jerellh528
10-03-2010, 10:20 PM
well do you consider me uninsightful and useless poster for
A.Joining at a bad time on PSD, or
B.Because I give you my oppinion

if so then :facepalm:

Well I didnt say you personally, but after all this, I decided to look up all the posts you have ever made and yeah, you are in that special group of people. 90% of your posts are anti kobe or saying how much greater the heat are than everyone else, and trying to bash anyone who doesnt agree with you.
don't :facepalm: me when you just want to :catfight:, :cry:

Storch
10-03-2010, 10:28 PM
Well I didnt say you personally, but after all this, I decided to look up all the posts you have ever made and yeah, you are in that special group of people. 90% of your posts are anti kobe or saying how much greater the heat are than everyone else, and trying to bash anyone who doesnt agree with you.
don't :facepalm: me when you just want to :catfight:, :cry:

Well done. You managed to debate with an immature miami heat poster without losing your cool. :cool:

dc5jdm
10-04-2010, 12:46 AM
aye Laker fans let the heat fans actaully win something and win the poll.
I honestly think thats all their winnin a psd poll, Do they get a ring btw??

OGMarkWahlberg
10-04-2010, 01:23 AM
Heat in 6, Bynum will be injured...Kobe will be banged up (again) its wayyy too hard to 3 peat in this league only a handful of teams have done that in nba history its LeBrons time

mohye
10-04-2010, 01:58 AM
Lakers in 6 against the Celtics.. yes Celtics not the Heat...

Heat arent good enough to make it to the finals..not yet atleast..they need more big bodies...

Baller1
10-04-2010, 02:14 AM
Damn, I can't believe the Lakers are winning this.

The Heat are going to win it all.

Baller1
10-04-2010, 02:16 AM
And I can't believe people are actually predicting sweeps. Can people not go one day without being biased?

DoJoTheSlasher
10-04-2010, 02:39 AM
really? Miami has the top 2 players in the league and they have no shot at all? You dont even take it into account that Wade and Lebron would get Bynum into so much foul trouble. One game last year I remember Bynum got 4 fouls in 9 minutes. 4 fouls in 9 minutes what do you think will happen with Wade and Lebron attacking the rim at will?

At what point did Wade or LeBron get better than Kobe?

Was it when Wade teamed up with the refs to win a ring, only to not make it out of the 1st rd ever since? Was it when LeBron got swept in the Finals and continued to dissapoint in not showing up in later rounds?

Maybe it was after Kobe just got his 5th ring, all as the best player on the Lakers. Maybe it was after Kobe single handedly beat the Suns in the WCF this past year or maybe it was Kobe destroying Utah? Maybe it was Kobe putting himself in the top 5 players of all time and MJ comparisons?

Bron and Wade are 2 and 3, behind Kobe Bryant, the BEST player in the game.

SouljahPhil...
10-04-2010, 06:53 AM
And I can't believe people are actually predicting sweeps. Can people not go one day without being biased?

Yeah I agree...Homerism is so obvious...I even voted Lakers in 7..

tcav701
10-04-2010, 07:44 AM
Why do we even do these polls?

mynameismo
10-04-2010, 08:09 AM
Whoa! It's tied. Anybody wanna break it?

SouljahPhil...
10-04-2010, 08:10 AM
Whoa! It's tied. Anybody wanna break it?

It doesn't work that way..check the rules..hehe..

RedRicanoBx
10-04-2010, 08:45 AM
how can ya say the heat ??

Kobe is better than anyone on the heat

Gasol is better than bosh

A INJURED BYNUM would wash anythony -__-

and the lakers bench is MUCH deeper than the lame miami bench smh

La in 5 or 6 Kobe will torch them lmao

lavilevi23
10-04-2010, 08:50 AM
At what point did Wade or LeBron get better than Kobe?

Was it when Wade teamed up with the refs to win a ring, only to not make it out of the 1st rd ever since? Was it when LeBron got swept in the Finals and continued to dissapoint in not showing up in later rounds?

Maybe it was after Kobe just got his 5th ring, all as the best player on the Lakers. Maybe it was after Kobe single handedly beat the Suns in the WCF this past year or maybe it was Kobe destroying Utah? Maybe it was Kobe putting himself in the top 5 players of all time and MJ comparisons?

Bron and Wade are 2 and 3, behind Kobe Bryant, the BEST player in the game.

Still bitter? get over it buddy its been 4 years now.

todu82
10-04-2010, 09:53 AM
Lakers in 6

Heater4life
10-04-2010, 10:28 AM
how can ya say the heat ??

Kobe is better than anyone on the heat

Gasol is better than bosh

A INJURED BYNUM would wash anythony -__-

and the lakers bench is MUCH deeper than the lame miami bench smh

La in 5 or 6 Kobe will torch them lmao

Fact is the Heat havent played a single game, no one knows what to expect and only sees what ever his/her mind wants to imagine.

Lakers fans/most of the biased NBA fans- Utter failure, no depth at center, Bosh being pushed around, no bench etc.

Heat fans- Utter dominance, blowing everyone out of the water, 6+ titles, etc


All i know as a Heat fan is what i have seen. this group as assembled SHOULD have the pieces to be unstopable, but i havent seen them play together yet.

All i can reflect on is their scrimmage on friday. If anyone saw it, there fast, athletic, create loads of space, and will take it to the lane early and often with the leagues two best slashers/finishers at the basket. we'll see how it plays out.

Storch
10-04-2010, 01:30 PM
For those of you who are saying the heat have the top 2 players in the NBA, think again. Kobe is the top player. So the lakers have the best player in the NBA.

Bosh is arguably top 2 PF in the NBA, arguably behind or ahead of Dirk only.

Hoopsadvocate
10-04-2010, 03:53 PM
For those of you who are saying the heat have the top 2 players in the NBA, think again. Kobe is the top player. So the lakers have the best player in the NBA.

Bosh is arguably top 2 PF in the NBA, arguably behind or ahead of Dirk only.

For those of you who say the lakers have the best player in the nba think again. Lebron is the top player. So the HEAT have the best player in the nba.

Ahhh that was easy.

Jewelz0376
10-04-2010, 03:58 PM
These lakers vs heat threads are just getting stupid now...

kArSoN RyDaH
10-04-2010, 05:01 PM
bynum- top 3 Center in league when healthy
gasol- #1 PF in the game, best all around big
kobe- ARGUABLY the best player in the game


kobe vs wade - even match up
gasol vs bosh- gasol is a better defender and they are both equal scorers. this match up will be key in my opinion seeing how lebron and wade are going to get most of the lakers focus defensively they will look to bosh often.
lebron vs artest- obviously lebron. but dont count out artest. he forced 7 turnovers on lebron xmas day. and held him to below average FG% where he shot 9/19 from the field.
bynum= xfactor like always. an unhealthy bynum has gotten us 2 championships in a row. also an unhealthy kobe bryant.

kobe, gasol and bynum will all be rested for this upcoming season. so will dfish.


i say lakers in 7 although i think if were healthy we can close it out earlier.

kArSoN RyDaH
10-04-2010, 05:06 PM
These lakers vs heat threads are just getting stupid now...



these threads are getting kind of annoying. seeing as to how they hardly ever recieve any valid arguments just a bunch of people spewing out subjective garbage!

i would bother making a case for each team but seeing as how this thread has turned out im not going to waste my time.

Da Knicks
10-04-2010, 05:18 PM
too much gasol the reason i went with the lakers...still the heat have the best player in the league with a lot to prove, Lebron could upset jackson and his three peat.

bluefire7002
10-04-2010, 06:31 PM
Heat in 5.

If Thunder can take the Lakers to 7, Heat would probably sweep that team. But I am been generous, so I'll say they win a game.

wow... read the first page and just skipped all the rest :facepalm:
A team thats never even played a full game together in the regular season and you got them sweeping the defending champs?

Storch
10-04-2010, 08:22 PM
For those of you who say the lakers have the best player in the nba think again. Lebron is the top player. So the HEAT have the best player in the nba.

Ahhh that was easy.

If he's truly the best then he can lead a team with 3 superstars to a championship to beat the best player's team, the Lakers.

DeZonia
10-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Fact is the Heat havent played a single game, no one knows what to expect and only sees what ever his/her mind wants to imagine.

Lakers fans/most of the biased NBA fans- Utter failure, no depth at center, Bosh being pushed around, no bench etc.

Heat fans- Utter dominance, blowing everyone out of the water, 6+ titles, etc


All i know as a Heat fan is what i have seen. this group as assembled SHOULD have the pieces to be unstopable, but i havent seen them play together yet.

All i can reflect on is their scrimmage on friday. If anyone saw it, there fast, athletic, create loads of space, and will take it to the lane early and often with the leagues two best slashers/finishers at the basket. we'll see how it plays out.

How do they have no Depth at Center?

When Bynum sits on the bench Gasol goes to Center and Odom at PF, when Gasol is benched Theo isn't a bad choice to play a couple minutes.

Baller1
10-04-2010, 09:20 PM
If he's truly the best then he can lead a team with 3 superstars to a championship to beat the best player's team, the Lakers.

He will. LeBron is the best basketball player on the planet. I feel as if only Laker fans are the ones who can't accept it.

Storch
10-04-2010, 09:43 PM
He will. LeBron is the best basketball player on the planet. I feel as if only Laker fans are the ones who can't accept it.

The best basketball player in the planet can't lead the league's top winning team in the season to a championship. :rolleyes:

Raps08-09 Champ
10-04-2010, 09:52 PM
I voted Heat at first but after looking at it, I gotta go Lakers here.

They match up very well. Artest will be on Lebron and Bryant on Wade. Gasol will be on Bosh too. Barnes on Miller and Odom on Haslem.

The Heat do not have a solution for Bynum. Their best hope is that Bynum gets into a lot of foul trouble with Lebron, Wade and Bosh attacking the rim. But an easier solution is to get Dampier or a 7 footer who can last his own.

Storch
10-04-2010, 09:56 PM
I voted Heat at first but after looking at it, I gotta go Lakers here.

They match up very well. Artest will be on Lebron and Bryant on Wade. Gasol will be on Bosh too. Barnes on Miller and Odom on Haslem.

The Heat do not have a solution for Bynum. Their best hope is that Bynum gets into a lot of foul trouble with Lebron, Wade and Bosh attacking the rim. But an easier solution is to get Dampier or a 7 footer who can last his own.

How about what their strategy is when Gasol and Odom are on the floor? They have no answer for them either. Bosh on Gasol won't be a great matchup for Bosh since he's going to become exhausted for offense. And who's going to chase lamar around? Haslem? I guess that their best move is to put lebron on him and haslem on artest... But that has its' own disadvantages in itself. Sucks!

Hoopsadvocate
10-04-2010, 10:06 PM
How about what their strategy is when Gasol and Odom are on the floor? They have no answer for them either. Bosh on Gasol won't be a great matchup for Bosh since he's going to become exhausted for offense. And who's going to chase lamar around? Haslem? I guess that their best move is to put lebron on him and haslem on artest... But that has its' own disadvantages in itself. Sucks!

I like how that is a cause for conern for bosh on gasol but when u say pit gasol on bosh theres no mention of gasol being exhausted from offense. :facepalm:

Bosh will have less of an offensive load than gasol heck everyone on the heat will have a less offensive load (with 3 top league scorers on the same team)and by your logic better to defend your players. Meanwhile kobe bears the grunt of the offense. Yet hes expected to guard wade to a stalemate (as many of u proclaim)???

Your logic is stupid.

Raps08-09 Champ
10-04-2010, 10:09 PM
How about what their strategy is when Gasol and Odom are on the floor? They have no answer for them either. Bosh on Gasol won't be a great matchup for Bosh since he's going to become exhausted for offense. And who's going to chase lamar around? Haslem? I guess that their best move is to put lebron on him and haslem on artest... But that has its' own disadvantages in itself. Sucks!

Haslem actually did a nice job on Dirk a couple of years ago. So he can go defend on the perimeter.

I can see a lineup of Bosh, LBJ, Miller, Wade and Chalmers(or whoever their PG is) if they have a lineup of Gasol, Odom, Artest, Kobe and Blake/Fisher.

Artest isn't a great offensive threat so Miller is expandable on the floor. Artest will abuse him but I rather Artest score than Gasol or Kobe.


But that's why I said they need to get a big man who can last their own agaisnt 7'0", 250 guys. Like if they got Dampier, Dampier would be on Gasol and Bosh on Odom. It eases the defense out allowing guys to play their major position.

FakeBlackMamba
10-04-2010, 10:10 PM
Lakers will suck during the regular season, and will probably limp through the west to the finals. But in the finals vs Boston/Miami, the defense the lakers are capable of playing when it actually matters is and will be unbelievable. Just Kobe + Artest + Barnes is a pretty sick one on one defensive group. Good luck to whoever plays LA.

LA > NBA

Hoopsadvocate
10-04-2010, 10:15 PM
OH funny how nobody mentions how the thunder....

with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league" :laugh:

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Managed to take this Laker team to 7 games.

Yet these very same reason listed from a much less talented (offensively and defensivly) team are suppesdly cause for concerns for us huh???

Ya history shows its not, but instead its the athleticism (which we have more of) and team d (which a worse heat team was ranked higher than thunder last year) that will be a much bigger factor.

not worried heat in 6 or 7.

icej
10-04-2010, 10:36 PM
OH funny how nobody mentions how the thunder....

with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league" :laugh:

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Managed to take this Laker team to 7 games.

Yet these very same reason listed from a much less talented (offensively and defensivly) team are suppesdly cause for concerns for us huh???

Ya history shows its not, but instead its the athleticism (which we have more of) and team d (which a worse heat team was ranked higher than thunder last year) that will be a much bigger factor.

not worried heat in 6 or 7.

I agree, there certainly is a LARGE HOLE in the Experience/Length factor between lakers vs heat since last year with the same nucleus Durant and the rest of Thunders (NO dominant Big men) took this LA to game 7, while heat was 2nd rank Defensively last year without these upgrades.

But there's NO guarantee though, but I can't wait to see how this heat play together with all the hate around them.

Good luck to ALL teams! Hate to see teams fail just because of injuries.

$KnicksAndKobe$
10-04-2010, 10:39 PM
OH funny how nobody mentions how the thunder....

with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league" :laugh:

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Managed to take this Laker team to 7 games.

Yet these very same reason listed from a much less talented (offensively and defensivly) team are suppesdly cause for concerns for us huh???

Ya history shows its not, but instead its the athleticism (which we have more of) and team d (which a worse heat team was ranked higher than thunder last year) that will be a much bigger factor.

not worried heat in 6 or 7.


The Thunder had no playoff experience, that's why they lost in the first round.

Worse ranked defensive team? The Thunder were the best rebounding team in the league and one of the best defensive teams in the league.

No answer for Gasol? That's right. Gasol dominated in the first round and the entire playoffs.

Managed to take the Lakers to 7 games? Why do the Heat fans keep saying 7 games? First of all it was 6 games and don't underrate a Thunder team that won 50 games ... even though they were an 8 seed, the western conference is much more challenging than the East.


And what pisses me off the most is mentioning the Thunder at all! Your talking about troubles in a first round series and defense, I think you need a reality check.
The Lakers beat the Celts, who were the best in Defense, and won a championship. Show some respect to the champs.

DeZonia
10-04-2010, 10:40 PM
OH funny how nobody mentions how the thunder....

with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league" :laugh:

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Managed to take this Laker team to 7 games.

Yet these very same reason listed from a much less talented (offensively and defensivly) team are suppesdly cause for concerns for us huh???

Ya history shows its not, but instead its the athleticism (which we have more of) and team d (which a worse heat team was ranked higher than thunder last year) that will be a much bigger factor.

not worried heat in 6 or 7.

What series did you watch... I'm sure it went to 6 games? But maybe i was wrong?

DeZonia
10-04-2010, 10:42 PM
OH funny how nobody mentions how the thunder....

with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league" :laugh:

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Managed to take this Laker team to 7 games.

Yet these very same reason listed from a much less talented (offensively and defensivly) team are suppesdly cause for concerns for us huh???

Ya history shows its not, but instead its the athleticism (which we have more of) and team d (which a worse heat team was ranked higher than thunder last year) that will be a much bigger factor.

not worried heat in 6 or 7.

Your facts are so wrong/bad its not even funny.

Wow

RaiderLakersA's
10-04-2010, 10:47 PM
Lakers in 6, because the Heat will have to go through the physical gauntlet in the East and likely come into the Finals series a wounded duck.

IndiansFan337
10-04-2010, 10:48 PM
Heat in 6.

Hoopsadvocate
10-05-2010, 12:09 AM
The Thunder had no playoff experience, that's why they lost in the first round.

Worse ranked defensive team? The Thunder were the best rebounding team in the league and one of the best defensive teams in the league.
No answer for Gasol? That's right. Gasol dominated in the first round and the entire playoffs.

Managed to take the Lakers to 7 games? Why do the Heat fans keep saying 7 games? First of all it was 6 games and don't underrate a Thunder team that won 50 games ... even though they were an 8 seed, the western conference is much more challenging than the East.


And what pisses me off the most is mentioning the Thunder at all! Your talking about troubles in a first round series and defense, I think you need a reality check.
The Lakers beat the Celts, who were the best in Defense, and won a championship. Show some respect to the champs.

Didnt say they were the worse just ment they were the worse compared to the heat last year (which we had much worse defensive players than we do this year)

And i know they lost in the first round cause they played the nba champs! This point was to compare against the lakers. Everyone saids we wont win because of the reason i listed because there such big weaknesses yet a team with much of the same and MUCH worse weaknesses took the lakers to 7 games so theres no reason we couldnt at least match that and in likelyhood surpass as we are more talented, atheltic and better defensivly than that thunder team which was their advantage in taking the lakers to 7 games.

nice try trying to turn it around into a thunder heat thing though. Point is the weakness people try to point out as the reasons we dont stand a chance for, the thunder proved you can overcome. and guys like bynum and gasol arent nearly as big a threat as many posters claim them to be as proof against the thunder.

Hoopsadvocate
10-05-2010, 12:24 AM
Your facts are so wrong/bad its not even funny.

Wow

Really? care to expand ill break it down for you again and u can answer each one in your next post unless u know you cant.

"with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)" Was this not the thunders first playoff appeareance?? Hence no prior playoff exp??

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league"
Did they have a legit center??? You know the kind u guys say we need if not well get rolled by Andrew Bynum???

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper
Did any of their players get any nba defensive honors??
was there defensive ranking higher than the HEATs last year??

Thunder ranked 9th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2010.html

HEAT ranked 6th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2010.html

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Is jeff green a better player/ defender than bosh??? Did Gasol not impose his will on Green? DId this lead to the decimation of the thunder team like u claim it will for bosh and his HEAT team??


Managed to take this Laker team to 6 games. ( a competitive series)

Didnt that series go 6 games???

Everything is backed up. You have nothing.

still1ballin
10-05-2010, 12:33 AM
Really? care to expand ill break it down for you again and u can answer each one in your next post unless u know you cant.

"with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)" Was this not the thunders first playoff appeareance?? Hence no prior playoff exp??

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league"
Did they have a legit center??? You know the kind u guys say we need if not well get rolled by Andrew Bynum???

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper
Did any of their players get any nba defensive honors??
was there defensive ranking higher than the HEATs last year??

Thunder ranked 9th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2010.html

HEAT ranked 6th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2010.html

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Is jeff green a better player/ defender than bosh??? Did Gasol not impose his will on Green? DId this lead to the decimation of the thunder team like u claim it will for bosh and his HEAT team??


Managed to take this Laker team to 7 games.

Didnt that series go 7 games???

Everything is backed up. You have nothing.

it went 6 games

Hoopsadvocate
10-05-2010, 12:36 AM
it went 6 games

thanks. idk why i keep thinking 7 i do that everytime. regardless it was competitive. which was the point of that bullet.

Storch
10-05-2010, 12:39 AM
Really? care to expand ill break it down for you again and u can answer each one in your next post unless u know you cant.

"with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)" Was this not the thunders first playoff appeareance?? Hence no prior playoff exp??

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league"
Did they have a legit center??? You know the kind u guys say we need if not well get rolled by Andrew Bynum???

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper
Did any of their players get any nba defensive honors??
was there defensive ranking higher than the HEATs last year??

Thunder ranked 9th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2010.html

HEAT ranked 6th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2010.html

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Is jeff green a better player/ defender than bosh??? Did Gasol not impose his will on Green? DId this lead to the decimation of the thunder team like u claim it will for bosh and his HEAT team??


Managed to take this Laker team to 6 games. ( a competitive series)

Didnt that series go 6 games???

Everything is backed up. You have nothing.

Learn true facts first, then come back and argue. Otherwise, all the noise your making is redundant.

xBLAMEITON24x
10-05-2010, 01:06 AM
lakers in 7

kArSoN RyDaH
10-05-2010, 02:06 AM
i really wouldnt even bother wasting my time with this guy. his argument is terrible in every possible way. hes just making himself look stupid.

Baller1
10-05-2010, 02:16 AM
Really? care to expand ill break it down for you again and u can answer each one in your next post unless u know you cant.

"with no playoff exp prior to that matchup so u cant use the exp and playing together card on us)" Was this not the thunders first playoff appeareance?? Hence no prior playoff exp??

No legit big man to guard your "one of the top centers in the league"
Did they have a legit center??? You know the kind u guys say we need if not well get rolled by Andrew Bynum???

worse ranked defensive team with no notable (with respect to thebo) perimeter stopper
Did any of their players get any nba defensive honors??
was there defensive ranking higher than the HEATs last year??

Thunder ranked 9th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2010.html

HEAT ranked 6th: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2010.html

And no "answer" for Gasol (Bosh>>>>> Jeff Green)

Is jeff green a better player/ defender than bosh??? Did Gasol not impose his will on Green? DId this lead to the decimation of the thunder team like u claim it will for bosh and his HEAT team??


Managed to take this Laker team to 6 games. ( a competitive series)

Didnt that series go 6 games???

Everything is backed up. You have nothing.

The Thunder play an extremely team-oriented type of game. Comparing individual players to one another is irrelevant when describing the Thunder. So saying "Bosh>>>Jeff Green" doesn't necessarily mean that Bosh will handle Gasol better than the Thunder did. You obviously have been oblivious to he rise of Serge Ibaka who had his "coming out party" against LA in the first round of the playoffs. It took Green, Ibaka, and Collison to stop Gasol (and they still didn't, as evident by game 6). Terrible, terrible argument.

As for experience, that's just an excuse. Yes, it definitely has some effects on the series, but it's nothing more than a mere excuse that people like to use. Experienced or not, talent should eclipse that and the Thunder didn't have enough developed talent to handle a seven game series with the Lakers. So that argument is a weak one as well.

Despite the Thunder's lack of size in the post, they still managed to lead the league in blocks and were a great rebounding team. So again, I don't know where you are coming up with these ridiculous claims. As I've previously stated, the Thunder rely heavily on team defense, and saying we're a bad defensive team because we have no All-Defensive players is ridiculous (Sefalosha should have been though, but that's irrelevant). With an improved role for Ibaka and the continued development of Durant on the defensive end, the Thunder will most likely be a top 5 defensive team this year. Oh, and don't forget about Cole Aldrich as well. You obviously didn't watch the series last season, because defense is what the team prides itself on.

What's your point about us not having a legit big man anyway? If you think Bosh and Anthony are going to be able to guard Gasol and Bynum then you're delusional. Gasol's combination of skills and size are a nightmare for any big man. And Bosh is no exception to that, especially considering he's not even that great of a defender.

Yeah, it did go to 6 games... Because OKC is a great team. Once again, terrible argument with no validity.

My point is, discrediting a great Thunder team to make the Lakers look worse is such a pathetic way to make an argument for your Heat. The Lakers outplayed the Thunder for 3-6 games, and pulled out a tough win in OKC for a reason. They're a deep team, and the defending champs.

None of what I said reflects how I feel a seven game series between the two will end, but I wanted I just wanted you to know that discrediting another team in an attempt to downplay another teams abilities is absolutely absurd. But good try.

If you'd like to respond to this with some more of your useless opinions, please do; I'd love to pick them apart because that was too easy.

Ace33Bone
10-05-2010, 08:45 AM
If this was boston vs lakers then i would go with Boston, but since this is the Lakers vs Heat I am going to have to go with LA as much as I hate to say it LA is better than the HEat... I am and LBJ fan

heatforlife
10-05-2010, 09:05 AM
the lakers and when i mean lakers i mean old kobe is trying to get attention because the heat r getting all the attention, kobe is old boston is old too the only real enemies the heat have in the long run are orlando and oklahoma.. right now i say boston is the biggest threat but lakers are going to be the boston of the future full with old men. and I dont get why people r taking shots at lebron and the heat for no good reason i say stop talking ontil the season starts and then talk the crap that ur going to talk with hard facts and not speculations.. good luck to all the other nba teams and we will see the lakers in the finals that is if not the thunders beat them lol... this is war people deal with it. haters gonna hate...

D-Block21-Chito
10-05-2010, 09:52 AM
Heat in 5.

If Thunder can take the Lakers to 7, Heat would probably sweep that team. But I am been generous, so I'll say they win a game.

13 year old heat fan...

SouljahPhil...
10-05-2010, 10:53 AM
the lakers and when i mean lakers i mean old kobe is trying to get attention because the heat r getting all the attention, kobe is old boston is old too the only real enemies the heat have in the long run are orlando and oklahoma.. right now i say boston is the biggest threat but lakers are going to be the boston of the future full with old men. and I dont get why people r taking shots at lebron and the heat for no good reason i say stop talking ontil the season starts and then talk the crap that ur going to talk with hard facts and not speculations.. good luck to all the other nba teams and we will see the lakers in the finals that is if not the thunders beat them lol... this is war people deal with it. haters gonna hate...

creating an account? or double account...lol

What do you mean about this? So when the lakers get old they would be the biggest threat?:confused:

heatforlife
10-05-2010, 12:50 PM
bro boston is only a treat because they added shaq and jermain and robinson is a nice player but in a couple of years kobe is going to be a old *** hell that is if he doesn't retired ones we beat them in the finals and gasol would be the only real good player in the team. the only teams that will become treats are orlando,oklahoma,and the bulls thats it

and what do u mean about (creating an account? or double account...)

still1ballin
10-05-2010, 12:58 PM
bro boston is only a treat because they added shaq and jermain and robinson is a nice player but in a couple of years kobe is going to be a old *** hell that is if he doesn't retired ones we beat them in the finals and gasol would be the only real good player in the team. the only teams that will become treats are orlando,oklahoma,and the bulls thats it

and what do u mean about (creating an account? or double account...)

I didn't know Kobe at age 32 is old as hell!

So Boston last year was not a threat because they did not add Shaq and Jermaine?

SouljahPhil...
10-05-2010, 01:06 PM
bro boston is only a treat because they added shaq and jermain and robinson is a nice player but in a couple of years kobe is going to be a old *** hell that is if he doesn't retired ones we beat them in the finals and gasol would be the only real good player in the team. the only teams that will become treats are orlando,oklahoma,and the bulls thats it

and what do u mean about (creating an account? or double account...)

:facepalm: Care to elaborate on this? So what do you call shaq and JO if kobe is old? Senile?

I don't get what your saying at all..Boston was always a threat even before they added those 2 bigs..Many people thought they were old last year and guess who took the lakers to 7 games... So we fast forward this season to a time when kobe is as old as hell? maybe by that time kobe has now 6 or 7 rings..

Heater4life
10-05-2010, 01:14 PM
I didn't know Kobe at age 32 is old as hell!

So Boston last year was not a threat because they did not add Shaq and Jermaine?

Some people make it seem as if the Heat will be pushed over. Fact is, as pointed out before, an Oklahoma City team went the distance against the Lakers with IMO less depth at center. Now add players such as James, Bosh, Wade into the mix, in addtion to Haslem hustling in the paint, and quality shooters in Miller, House, and Jones; theres no way this series isnt very competive and goes 7 games

SouljahPhil...
10-05-2010, 01:18 PM
Some people make it seem as if the Heat will be pushed over. Fact is, as pointed out before, an Oklahoma City team went the distance against the Lakers with IMO less depth at center. Now add players such as James, Bosh, Wade into the mix, in addtion to Haslem hustling in the paint, and quality shooters in Miller, House, and Jones; theres no way this series isnt very competive and goes 7 games

People who think about those things are delusional..Same could be said for some heat fans here predicting sweep against LA.. This series will end in 6 or 7 games...