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Gators123
09-30-2010, 08:51 PM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/09/30/and-one/


Start the countdown. The possibility of the Kings leaving Sacramento just became very real, if not likely, with news that the league will no longer have an active role in brokering an arena deal, a crippling blow to hopes the team and city can one day resume the love affair. Co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof take the middle road, deferring to commissioner David Stern and siding with the wishes of the majority of owners rather than making their own stand, so Stern stepping away from the table is a very meaningful moment. The breakup was never nearly as imminent as some made it seem for years, as long as the league remained adamant that the proven success of a market will stay in the fold, but that just changed.

The other issue is the absence of a logical landing spot. Las Vegas: same arena problem. Seattle: same arena problem. Kansas City: no arena problem, but serious questions about whether the region can support a team. One member of a group that previously pursued NBA ownership said there isn't a good call out there for relocation, an undeniable factor that may have kept the Kings in the capital city this long.

DerekRE_3
09-30-2010, 08:55 PM
Bottom line is you just can't expect to get the funds for new state of the art arena's in a down economy. Especially in California. The whole state is a ****ing mess financially.

kjoke
09-30-2010, 08:55 PM
stay in sac

Lloyd Christmas
09-30-2010, 09:00 PM
That sucks.

td0tsfinest
09-30-2010, 09:03 PM
Bottom line is you just can't expect to get the funds for new state of the art arena's in a down economy. Especially in California. The whole state is a ****ing mess financially.

Damn...Hassan Whiteside has gone all Dwight Howard.

It'll be sad to see the kings go but I'm intrigued with the possibility of going to Vegas.

Khalifa21
09-30-2010, 09:03 PM
It would ****ing suck if the Kings left but if they do they should go to Seattle.

TO Rapz
09-30-2010, 09:04 PM
That sucks, never good to see a team loved by their fans leave the city, pretty sad.

godolphins
09-30-2010, 09:07 PM
Too bad

NYKNYGNYY
09-30-2010, 09:10 PM
should go to st.louis

NYtilIdie
09-30-2010, 09:25 PM
:pray: that they come to Kansas City. We were one of the citys that were up for consideration for the Thunder, but we passed them up for the ***king Outlaws! :facepalm:

If we support the Chiefs and Royals we should be able to support a young, upcoming team like the Kings. The preseason Heat/Thunder game is almost sold out also.

spreadeagle
09-30-2010, 09:27 PM
Canada needs a second team!:D

Robbw241
09-30-2010, 09:28 PM
Come to Raleigh!!!

SugeKnight
09-30-2010, 09:31 PM
Kings shouldnt move, but if they do, please dont go to KC or Vegas.

Seattle would be cool though

KaneMarko
09-30-2010, 09:49 PM
If the Kings need a place to call home, come to Kansas City. We got a brand new state of the art arena with their name on it.

There's this talk that KC can't support another team. Hogwash. If the Kings put a competitive product on the floor, KC will fill up that arena. Especially with the Kings having a good deal of young talent. We have gone through a lot of losing over the years with the Royals and Chiefs. KC has proven that we will support a competitive team. The Chiefs have started off the season hot and Arrowhead is quickly filling back up again. And Arrowhead seats nearly 80 thousand. We'll support a team that's competitive. But we aren't unlike any other market in that if the product is bad for a certain amoint of time then the arena won't sell out. Same can be said for any market. If the Lakers start putting out bad products and only winning 20 games per year, guess what's going to happen to the Staples Center crowd? KC will supprt the Kings if given the opportunity and a competitive team.

I know we weren't their first home. But we were one of their homes. No disrespect intended for Sacramento or the Kings fans but come on back, Kings!

DodgerBulls
09-30-2010, 09:59 PM
I think they need to explore of giving san diego another team. Since the clippers left, they haven't have any basketball events other than ncaa. I think it will be nice if they can get anyone to give them an arena. SD is a beautiful place, I thin they deserve another chance. They're still in the process of downtown beautification so it will be good for them, considering the chargers staying put is still uncertain.

49erGiantLaker
09-30-2010, 10:11 PM
Really hope they stay in Sac.

WolvesJagsOs
09-30-2010, 10:14 PM
^agreed. Would hate to see them leave sactown.

ChiSox219
09-30-2010, 10:15 PM
Chicago could support a second team, especially one like the Kings, who will be an elite team soon.

ShaqShoes
09-30-2010, 10:23 PM
Back to Seattle!

Rafer17
09-30-2010, 11:26 PM
St.Louis or Seattle,

Ovratd1up
09-30-2010, 11:44 PM
Bangalore.

LeBitteNoir
10-01-2010, 12:02 AM
Kansas City Kings would sound tight and it would be in keeping with the team's history.

But how about San Diego?

Kyle916
10-01-2010, 12:29 AM
This would make me sad.

THE GIPPER
10-01-2010, 12:39 AM
canada needs a second team!:d

van.

abe_froman
10-01-2010, 12:41 AM
really,really sucks.would hate to see that city lose the kings

IB_Hyperizin'13
10-01-2010, 01:22 AM
I think they need to explore of giving san diego another team. Since the clippers left, they haven't have any basketball events other than ncaa. I think it will be nice if they can get anyone to give them an arena. SD is a beautiful place, I thin they deserve another chance. They're still in the process of downtown beautification so it will be good for them, considering the chargers staying put is still uncertain.

SD is nice, and I don't understand why the clippers like being second fiddle to the Lakers. They should move down to SD and gain the respect with their talented young core. The Kings on the other hand really need a new stadium. I don't understand why tax payers don't want to fork over the bucks. With the down economy, a new stadium creates jobs and gets economies going. With a bigger stadium, they can hold bigger acts and events that can rival the bay area. But i dunno, i guess they are happy with Disney on Ice each year to look forward to...

DerekRE_3
10-01-2010, 01:24 AM
SD is nice, and I don't understand why the clippers like being second fiddle to the Lakers. They should move down to SD and gain the respect with their talented young core. The Kings on the other hand really need a new stadium. I don't understand why tax payers don't want to fork over the bucks. With the down economy, a new stadium creates jobs and gets economies going. With a bigger stadium, they can hold bigger acts and events that can rival the bay area. But i dunno, i guess they are happy with Disney on Ice each year to look forward to...

It's not taxpayers at all that are to blame. It's the city government in Sacramento that is just completely inept.

ZebraCity916
10-01-2010, 01:33 AM
Anybody saying they want the Kings to move to somewhere in the East need to give those hopes and dreams up. Cause if the Kings move, I think they have to stay in the West so it makes the number of teams even in each conference. I could be wrong though. I guess they could just move an Eastern Conference team to the West too.

kikeyanez
10-01-2010, 01:36 AM
the kings should go to san francisco & change there name to the san fran drag queens j/p stay in sac!!!!

ZebraCity916
10-01-2010, 01:37 AM
As a Kings fan from Sac, I don't think I would mind that much if they went back to KC. They had the Kings 1st so I wouldn't feel as bad as I would if they moved to San Diego or Las Vegas. Another city I wouldn't mind them moving to would be San Jose. It's still in Northern California and it's only a couple hours away from Sac. Wouldn't be so bad.

So my list would be-

1. San Jose
2. KC

Anywhere else I'm not sure if I would still be a Kings fan.

Mplsman
10-01-2010, 01:37 AM
Ouch.

abe_froman
10-01-2010, 01:39 AM
SD is nice, and I don't understand why the clippers like being second fiddle to the Lakers. They should move down to SD and gain the respect with their talented young core. The Kings on the other hand really need a new stadium. I don't understand why tax payers don't want to fork over the bucks. With the down economy, a new stadium creates jobs and gets economies going. With a bigger stadium, they can hold bigger acts and events that can rival the bay area. But i dunno, i guess they are happy with Disney on Ice each year to look forward to...

actually no,stadiums arent as great of an economic generator as their billed to be.they sell them as that to get public support behind them,but it really lives up to.

...though i do think they should support the kings just because there's a soft spot in my heart for sac(and thus the kings),from my time being heavily involved there

Jenceman
10-01-2010, 02:38 AM
Give Seattle their team back. Change the name to the Sonics.

Baller1
10-01-2010, 03:00 AM
Let us have our team back, I'd love to see Tyreke in my hometown.

jimbobjarree
10-01-2010, 03:07 AM
change is not good!

Kevj77
10-01-2010, 03:21 AM
Sac isn't a big enough market. There aren't enough surrounding areas. I lived in in northern California for ten years, it's just not populated enough. It's only a few hours from the Bay Area and NorCal is all about Agriculture. Before the Kings got good there were hardly any Kings fans. After they got good they were everywhere. They are bandwagon fans. California won't build taxpayer funded arenas anymore. Arco sucks, I have been to several Lakers/Kings games there.

Sad to say they would be better off moving to Las Vegas or someplace else. Just keep them close so they can stay in the Pacific. They won't be able to compete in Sac longterm.

cheaptrikz
10-01-2010, 03:22 AM
Every time i think of Sacramento i think of this (has a lil ref to kings) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8u1ErQTO0 lol

PraiseJesus
10-01-2010, 04:26 AM
I wish PSD would archive old threads and posts.

There have been a lot of predictions ive made that have come true, this being one of them.

I made a thread called "The Las Vegas Kings", or something to that effect, months ago.

All the writing has been on the walls. The Maloofs are all set up to take over Vegas with the NBA there can you imagine how much money they will make?

I also felt like there was an obvious effort to elevate Tyreke Evans to superstar status when they gave him NBA Rookie All Star he didnt deserve and the Rookie of the Year that he didnt deserve.

I also pointed out that the deal for the arena was falling apart and that there was a 'secret team' who had dibs on a Las Vegas team.

Anyways, yea. Sorry Sacramento - just root for the Warriors they got a sick team.

gilly
10-01-2010, 04:36 AM
The Kings should go back to Kansas City and be called the Kansas City Kings.

The Clippers should go to Seattle and become the Supersonics.

ZebraCity916
10-01-2010, 05:05 AM
Sac isn't a big enough market. There aren't enough surrounding areas. I lived in in northern California for ten years, it's just not populated enough. It's only a few hours from the Bay Area and NorCal is all about Agriculture. Before the Kings got good there were hardly any Kings fans. After they got good they were everywhere. They are bandwagon fans. California won't build taxpayer funded arenas anymore. Arco sucks, I have been to several Lakers/Kings games there.

Sad to say they would be better off moving to Las Vegas or someplace else. Just keep them close so they can stay in the Pacific. They won't be able to compete in Sac longterm.

What are you rambling about? Sacramento has a bigger market than San Antonio. Sacramento also has plenty of surrounding areas. You said it yourself. The Bay Area. If Nor Cal is all about agriculture and can't support a NBA team then how are the Warriors not gone yet?? Bandwagon fans?? Really?? The arena that was once called the loudest arena in the NBA. The fans that have been called the most loyal fans for years are bandwagon fans?? Get outta here with that. And what are you talking about competing longterm?? What does them winning have to do with them getting a new arena?? All of a sudden they move to Vegas and they'll be a dynasty?? Come up with some new arguments cause those ones just aren't working.

DerekRE_3
10-01-2010, 09:58 AM
Let us have our team back, I'd love to see Tyreke in my hometown.

You guys have a baseball team and a football team. Sacramento has the Kings...and that's it. **** off.

swaddell13
10-01-2010, 10:07 AM
send em to vegas

sacto'srealist
10-01-2010, 10:30 AM
i am from sac and a die hard kings fan, this news really sucks i have season tickets and would hate to loose that. plus also everyone forgets the kings have one of the greatest fan base, its just alot of people dont like seeing a team struggle when u rebuild. pretty much 2000 through 2006 all the fans were there and it was even hella hard to get tickets now its no problem. think about it sacramento is the state capitol why would u not want a team there. i know kevin johnson and the maloofs will make this work. all kings fans have faith

j-mart
10-01-2010, 12:03 PM
Move them to Vancouver.

Bearded_podolak
10-01-2010, 12:27 PM
They HAVE to come back to KC! The Royals still get a pretty decent draw and we all saw how well received the Hornets and then Thunder were received in a "small market" thats full of rabid sports fans

Kevj77
10-01-2010, 12:57 PM
What are you rambling about? Sacramento has a bigger market than San Antonio. Sacramento also has plenty of surrounding areas. You said it yourself. The Bay Area. If Nor Cal is all about agriculture and can't support a NBA team then how are the Warriors not gone yet?? Bandwagon fans?? Really?? The arena that was once called the loudest arena in the NBA. The fans that have been called the most loyal fans for years are bandwagon fans?? Get outta here with that. And what are you talking about competing longterm?? What does them winning have to do with them getting a new arena?? All of a sudden they move to Vegas and they'll be a dynasty?? Come up with some new arguments cause those ones just aren't working.Yup I said it bandwagon. I lived in northern california before Cwebb and Jason Williams came to Sac and I'm not talking about diehard fans in Sac, but there were hardly any Kings fans up north before the Kings got good then they were everywhere within a couple years. I call that bandwagon. Whats north of Sac Redding, east Lake Tahoe, west the Bay and they have the Warriors, your surrounding area to draw from is Stockton and Modesto. The bay area is not the same as the valley and you know it, its a huge metropolitan area and they already have the Warriors so how do you expect to draw from there especially with a poor team. Who said anything about a dynasty I just said compete. Kings where 29 out of 30 in home attendance last year at 13,254 per game. That is a lot of lost revenue that's how it helps. The only time they have ever competed is when the had Cwebb, Divac, Peja and Bibby and look at how your attendance has fallen off since. That's the most loyal fan base? Before that they were as bad as the Clippers. Besides Mitch Richmond name a player from Sac before the Cwebb years without looking it up.

Lake_Show2416
10-01-2010, 01:22 PM
go the San Jose (great market)...i'd be nice to have a team closer to home n the team not being the "we believe" squad in oakland whose just continuously terrible

DMasta718
10-01-2010, 01:49 PM
Hope Sac keeps the Kings. If they happen to move which will suck, go to Seattle.

Hollasoren
10-01-2010, 02:12 PM
long island play in the same arena as the islanders

TheBallerGuru
10-01-2010, 02:39 PM
long island play in the same arena as the islanders

That would be crazy if the Knicks were in Manhattan, the Nets in Brooklyn, and the Kings in Long Island. Talk about market saturation.

DMasta718
10-01-2010, 02:43 PM
That would be crazy if the Knicks were in Manhattan, the Nets in Brooklyn, and the Kings in Long Island. Talk about market saturation.

Get a team in Queens, Bronx, and Staten Island, then it would be too much. I could imagine borough wars would be high :laugh2:

Randy West
10-01-2010, 02:51 PM
I wish PSD would archive old threads and posts.

There have been a lot of predictions ive made that have come true, this being one of them.

I made a thread called "The Las Vegas Kings", or something to that effect, months ago.

All the writing has been on the walls. The Maloofs are all set up to take over Vegas with the NBA there can you imagine how much money they will make?

I also felt like there was an obvious effort to elevate Tyreke Evans to superstar status when they gave him NBA Rookie All Star he didnt deserve and the Rookie of the Year that he didnt deserve.

I also pointed out that the deal for the arena was falling apart and that there was a 'secret team' who had dibs on a Las Vegas team.

Anyways, yea. Sorry Sacramento - just root for the Warriors they got a sick team.

Quit talking about Vegas man it isn't happening. Why don't people get that there is a reason Vegas has ZERO professional sports franchises.......they are not allowed.

I am sure rules can be changed if certain criteria are met, as of right now though it can't happen.

Highlights...............


Only seven U.S. sports teams are based in television markets smaller than Las Vegas and four of those are NFL teams for whom the size of the local TV market really doesn't affect the bottom line due to the league's national TV deal.

Another problem is that many of the city's population, i.e. the potential local fan base, works at night in the hospitality industry. But perhaps most importantly, there's a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar in Las Vegas. So there's no guarantee that a pro team would play to sold-out crowds.

"It's very hard to stick you there," said Dave Checketts, an NHL and Major League Soccer team owner who ran the Utah Jazz when the team played about a quarter of its home games in Las Vegas during the 1983-84 season. "We brought in Julius Erving and Larry Bird and everyone said, 'Big deal, go down to the Strip and look at the names we have.'"

Checketts said the market has improved as a potential home for a team today, but he thinks that it will be more likely to land an NHL team than an NBA team because there is virtually no wagering on hockey at the state's casinos.

Figures from the Nevada Gaming Commission show that 25 percent of the money wagered at sports books in the state is bet on basketball, although that includes college games. Hockey is grouped together with other sports, such as golf and NASCAR, that together account for only 5 percent of bets.



When he was in Las Vegas for the All Star game, NBA Commissioner David Stern first said he'd want to see Las Vegas not allow gambling on his league's games before he'd back a franchise move there. He then opened the door a bit by saying that it it might be okay if the city just didn't allow bets on the Las Vegas team's games.

NBA Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver told me this week that since the All Star game, the league has heard from several Las Vegas developers who wanted to talk about building an NBA Arena as part of a larger project.

He said that no matter what is decided about wagering on basketball, the biggest challenge for moving a team to Las Vegas is determining whether the city can support an NBA team.

"It's still a business based largely on season ticket holders," said Silver. "For most teams that accounts for roughly 80 percent of ticket revenue. It creates a different type of challenge in Las Vegas to essentially resell those seats to tourists and conventioneers on a nightly basis. We haven't yet begun an economic study of the market."

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/23/comm...sbiz/index.htm

TheBallerGuru
10-01-2010, 02:53 PM
Get a team in Queens, Bronx, and Staten Island, then it would be too much. I could imagine borough wars would be high :laugh2:

Hah! With all those teams in one area, at least one of them would have to not suck right? :shrug:

Hero93
10-01-2010, 03:00 PM
baltimore or seattle

BuddhaMONK
10-01-2010, 03:27 PM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/09/30/and-one/

UMMM how bout Vancouver, it has more people then kansas city and las vegas, has stadiums left over from the olympics, plus it can draw from Victoia, Bc and seattle region (until they get thier team back), and they averaged more fans in their last season of existance without a tv contract and knowing they would be relocated at the end of the season then last years memphis grizzles (good job Stern). Plus the Canadian dollar is almost at par with the US and has surpassed it a few times. Furthermore, they can get Steve Nash to be part owner as he`s nearing retirement.

Vancouver last season
2000–01 23-59 record average attendance 13,737
Memphis last season
2009 - 10 40-42 record average attendance 13,485

**note the fact that memphis also had 17 MORE WINS!

If your averaging nearly 14,000 fans with no tv contract, only 23 wins, no star players, and knowing your going to be relocated at the end of the season those are some die hard fans. They also averaged more fans then Seattle in there last season, anyone who thinks Seattle is the most deserving is dumb don't even talk.

BuddhaMONK
10-01-2010, 03:31 PM
That would be crazy if the Knicks were in Manhattan, the Nets in Brooklyn, and the Kings in Long Island. Talk about market saturation.

are you kidding me ESPN said that that stadium was the worst stadium in Pro sports, why do you think their owners trying to sell them?

for me it's
Vancouver (they've been waiting longer then Seattle)
St louis
or Seattle
montreal also has a population of 3.6 million but french people don't support anything but soccer, football, and hockey

TheBallerGuru
10-01-2010, 03:41 PM
Don't think any team would every really relocate to Nassau Coliseum, its just funny to speculate having a ton of teams in NY. Vancouver only had more attendance in their last season because the fans knew they were leaving. Before that attendance numbers for the Grizzlies had been decreasing. Fans might come out to see a new team in Vancouver for the first few seasons while they are shiny and new, but over the long haul, attendance would dwindle again.

PraiseJesus
10-01-2010, 03:44 PM
Quit talking about Vegas man it isn't happening. Why don't people get that there is a reason Vegas has ZERO professional sports franchises.......they are not allowed.

I am sure rules can be changed if certain criteria are met, as of right now though it can't happen.

Highlights...............


Only seven U.S. sports teams are based in television markets smaller than Las Vegas and four of those are NFL teams for whom the size of the local TV market really doesn't affect the bottom line due to the league's national TV deal.

Another problem is that many of the city's population, i.e. the potential local fan base, works at night in the hospitality industry. But perhaps most importantly, there's a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar in Las Vegas. So there's no guarantee that a pro team would play to sold-out crowds.

"It's very hard to stick you there," said Dave Checketts, an NHL and Major League Soccer team owner who ran the Utah Jazz when the team played about a quarter of its home games in Las Vegas during the 1983-84 season. "We brought in Julius Erving and Larry Bird and everyone said, 'Big deal, go down to the Strip and look at the names we have.'"

Checketts said the market has improved as a potential home for a team today, but he thinks that it will be more likely to land an NHL team than an NBA team because there is virtually no wagering on hockey at the state's casinos.

Figures from the Nevada Gaming Commission show that 25 percent of the money wagered at sports books in the state is bet on basketball, although that includes college games. Hockey is grouped together with other sports, such as golf and NASCAR, that together account for only 5 percent of bets.



When he was in Las Vegas for the All Star game, NBA Commissioner David Stern first said he'd want to see Las Vegas not allow gambling on his league's games before he'd back a franchise move there. He then opened the door a bit by saying that it it might be okay if the city just didn't allow bets on the Las Vegas team's games.

NBA Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver told me this week that since the All Star game, the league has heard from several Las Vegas developers who wanted to talk about building an NBA Arena as part of a larger project.

He said that no matter what is decided about wagering on basketball, the biggest challenge for moving a team to Las Vegas is determining whether the city can support an NBA team.

"It's still a business based largely on season ticket holders," said Silver. "For most teams that accounts for roughly 80 percent of ticket revenue. It creates a different type of challenge in Las Vegas to essentially resell those seats to tourists and conventioneers on a nightly basis. We haven't yet begun an economic study of the market."

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/23/comm...sbiz/index.htm

Look at all the writing on the wall. It's happening. A lot of the logic there is flawed including that "most people work at night in the hospitality industry" - give me a freakin break there are millions of people that dont work every single night and would be going to games especially a lot of tourists.

The gambling issues is simple to solve they did it for the all star game - simply dont allow gambling on Kings games. It's not that hard. They do the same thing for the UNLV team.

There has been a concerted effort by the Maloofs and the NBA to NOT make it look like the Kings are ditching Cow Town Sacramento for Viva Las Vegas - but if you read between the lines - listen to the Maloofs answer questions about it - it's pretty obvious what is happening.

When I said the Kings were going to Vegas like 6 months ago all of the replies in this forum were that I was crazy and that the Kings aren't leaving Sacramento, they are getting a new arena, the Maloofs said they aren't leaving etc. Thats what they WANTED you to think.

But look at it now?

6 months from now there is going to be a thread about how it suddenly became viable to move to Las Vegas and they are getting a new arena close to the strip.

It's true Las Vegas doesn't have a pro sports team - but don't you think its about time they did? With the NBA hold the all star game there it is clear sign that they are thinking long and hard about it - the demand is there. And you can imagine that 2 owners who OWN the Palms casino in Las Vegas are the guys to make it happen.

Las Vegas Kings

fadedmario
10-01-2010, 03:49 PM
I feel for Sac fans. We had our own scare this year in Detroit. The Pistons now have 4 potential buyers who will remain in Michigan (thank god). Hopefully for Kings fans they figure it out and stay in Sac-Town.

WolvesJagsOs
10-01-2010, 03:49 PM
If they move, im thinkin Seattle or KC would be the favorites....

fadedmario
10-01-2010, 03:54 PM
St Louis will be a good city for hoop imo

asandhu23
10-01-2010, 04:14 PM
I blame this on the 2002 Lakers. that WCF fiasco killed that team.

Anyway there are also rumors of them moving to San Jose ( will play in HP Pavilion where Sharks play) . Maloofs already moved the Monarchs ( http://www.wnba.com/monarchs_thankyou.html ) down so...


http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/10/10/1079066/report-kings-have-recently-talked

TheBallerGuru
10-01-2010, 04:34 PM
St Louis will be a good city for hoop imo

Agreed :up:. St. Louis has proven it can support multiple major pro franchises. Vegas would be great (especially for the Maloofs) but no city is more fit than St Louis.

Sly Guy
10-01-2010, 04:48 PM
sac's fans were some of the best in the late 90's and early 00's.....I can never imagine them leaving, and I hope to hell they don't.

KaneMarko
10-01-2010, 04:55 PM
They HAVE to come back to KC! The Royals still get a pretty decent draw and we all saw how well received the Hornets and then Thunder were received in a "small market" thats full of rabid sports fans

KC has proven that it will support a competitive team. As you mentioned the Royals have done absolutely nothing in 25 years but lose at record levels yet they still draw a decent crowd given the quality of the product.

The Chiefs have made the playoffs only twice since 97 and are coming off a 4-12. Yet Arrowhead was close to full last Sunday.

This theory that KC can't support another team...I don't buy it. Because we've proven we can and will if the product is competitive. Now if a basketball team comes in and they are losing 60 games a year then people won't fill the arena. But that can be said for every market. People wont go to the Staples Center if the Lakers kept trotting out 20 win seasons.

IDK the likelihood of the Kings coming to KC. Right now Id put it as a slim chance. But, as Ive mentioned before, we already have a state-of-the-art arena available that was ranked as one of the 5 best in the country, that sits alongside the College Basketball Experience/College Basketball Hall of Fame, that sits in a newly revitalized downtown. All the things are there for them to move to KC if thats the route the chose to go if Sacrament/California cannot come up with a solution to keep the Kings there. Plus, as has been mentioned, the Kings have history here in KC. And this region is very rich with basketball history. Yes, mostly collegiate. But rich with basketball history nonetheless. It does make some level of sense to move to KC.

PraiseJesus
10-01-2010, 04:58 PM
lol at KC and St. Louis.

They aren't going to move out of California to go to one of those cities

Its Vegas Kings

Randy West
10-01-2010, 05:49 PM
Look at all the writing on the wall. It's happening. A lot of the logic there is flawed including that "most people work at night in the hospitality industry" - give me a freakin break there are millions of people that dont work every single night and would be going to games especially a lot of tourists.

The gambling issues is simple to solve they did it for the all star game - simply dont allow gambling on Kings games. It's not that hard. They do the same thing for the UNLV team.

There has been a concerted effort by the Maloofs and the NBA to NOT make it look like the Kings are ditching Cow Town Sacramento for Viva Las Vegas - but if you read between the lines - listen to the Maloofs answer questions about it - it's pretty obvious what is happening.

When I said the Kings were going to Vegas like 6 months ago all of the replies in this forum were that I was crazy and that the Kings aren't leaving Sacramento, they are getting a new arena, the Maloofs said they aren't leaving etc. Thats what they WANTED you to think.

But look at it now?

6 months from now there is going to be a thread about how it suddenly became viable to move to Las Vegas and they are getting a new arena close to the strip.

It's true Las Vegas doesn't have a pro sports team - but don't you think its about time they did? With the NBA hold the all star game there it is clear sign that they are thinking long and hard about it - the demand is there. And you can imagine that 2 owners who OWN the Palms casino in Las Vegas are the guys to make it happen.

Las Vegas Kings

And the two owners that own the Palms could very well fund an arena on their own if need be. Will they?? That is another question that they would have to answer I guess.

It may happen it may not happen. If one of the stipulations is no bets on NBA games the other casino owners are not going for that.

You say the demand is there, the article I sourced says it isn't and that a study had not been concluded or even started for that matter. You say there are plenty of folks the article says that tourists won't necessarily support an NBA team. If you had a hundred bucks in your pocket are you buying a ticket watch the Kings play the Hornets while you are in Vegas? Or are you going to spend that money on the tons of other entertainment options that city offers?
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Then there is this part........

"It's very hard to stick you there," said Dave Checketts, an NHL and Major League Soccer team owner who ran the Utah Jazz when the team played about a quarter of its home games in Las Vegas during the 1983-84 season. "We brought in Julius Erving and Larry Bird and everyone said, 'Big deal, go down to the Strip and look at the names we have.'"

Checketts said the market has improved as a potential home for a team today, but he thinks that it will be more likely to land an NHL team than an NBA team because there is virtually no wagering on hockey at the state's casinos.

Figures from the Nevada Gaming Commission show that 25 percent of the money wagered at sports books in the state is bet on basketball, although that includes college games. Hockey is grouped together with other sports, such as golf and NASCAR, that together account for only 5 percent of bets.
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Checketts being a former NBA guy probably has a better idea of where this is heading than you or I and he says hockey is more likely.

Does not mean it will or won't happen, anything could. I mean just like the article stated there are several more cities that are more viable from a marketing stand point.

ZebraCity916
10-01-2010, 06:49 PM
Yup I said it bandwagon. I lived in northern california before Cwebb and Jason Williams came to Sac and I'm not talking about diehard fans in Sac, but there were hardly any Kings fans up north before the Kings got good then they were everywhere within a couple years. I call that bandwagon. Whats north of Sac Redding, east Lake Tahoe, west the Bay and they have the Warriors, your surrounding area to draw from is Stockton and Modesto. The bay area is not the same as the valley and you know it, its a huge metropolitan area and they already have the Warriors so how do you expect to draw from there especially with a poor team. Who said anything about a dynasty I just said compete. Kings where 29 out of 30 in home attendance last year at 13,254 per game. That is a lot of lost revenue that's how it helps. The only time they have ever competed is when the had Cwebb, Divac, Peja and Bibby and look at how your attendance has fallen off since. That's the most loyal fan base? Before that they were as bad as the Clippers. Besides Mitch Richmond name a player from Sac before the Cwebb years without looking it up.

Sacramento is a bigger market than San Antonio. They're surrounding areas contain 2 other NBA franchises. Somehow they make it work. So why couldn't the Kings?? We may have been 29 outta 30 teams in attendance last year but already this year we've sold more season tickets than we did all last year. And with 25 wins last year and 17 wins the season before that you can't really expect people to show up. Any other teams would be right down there with us in attendance if they had bad seasons like we did. Plus, with a recession, what do you expect?? Every teams attendance has been down I'm sure with the exception of the teams that have been contenders the last few years. And those bangwagon fans are still around today. Apparently you haven't been in Sac for awhile cause everybody is still reppin' the Kings. People may have become fans when the Kings got good but they never left after that. Even when we had a crappy 17 win season and after that a 25 win season. Just cause people can't afford to go to Kings games, doesn't mean there's no more fans.

PraiseJesus
10-01-2010, 07:08 PM
And the two owners that own the Palms could very well fund an arena on their own if need be. Will they?? That is another question that they would have to answer I guess.

It may happen it may not happen. If one of the stipulations is no bets on NBA games the other casino owners are not going for that.

You say the demand is there, the article I sourced says it isn't and that a study had not been concluded or even started for that matter. You say there are plenty of folks the article says that tourists won't necessarily support an NBA team. If you had a hundred bucks in your pocket are you buying a ticket watch the Kings play the Hornets while you are in Vegas? Or are you going to spend that money on the tons of other entertainment options that city offers?
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Then there is this part........

"It's very hard to stick you there," said Dave Checketts, an NHL and Major League Soccer team owner who ran the Utah Jazz when the team played about a quarter of its home games in Las Vegas during the 1983-84 season. "We brought in Julius Erving and Larry Bird and everyone said, 'Big deal, go down to the Strip and look at the names we have.'"

Checketts said the market has improved as a potential home for a team today, but he thinks that it will be more likely to land an NHL team than an NBA team because there is virtually no wagering on hockey at the state's casinos.

Figures from the Nevada Gaming Commission show that 25 percent of the money wagered at sports books in the state is bet on basketball, although that includes college games. Hockey is grouped together with other sports, such as golf and NASCAR, that together account for only 5 percent of bets.
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Checketts being a former NBA guy probably has a better idea of where this is heading than you or I and he says hockey is more likely.

Does not mean it will or won't happen, anything could. I mean just like the article stated there are several more cities that are more viable from a marketing stand point.

I know people that live in Las Vegas. Believe it or not - outside of the strip it a pretty regular US city. Many of the people who live in Vegas never go to the strip because it is just filled with tourists.

As I said before, I feel like the NBA and Maloofs are doing everything they can to make it look like they are being forced out of Sacramento. They are doing everything they can to make it look like they aren't ditching Sacramento for Las Vegas.

Thats my opinion and it isn't changing. Why on earth would they move a franchise from California to Kansas City or Saint Louis? I can kinda see maybe San Diego or San Jose but those don't make as much sense as Vegas.

I think San Diego and San Jose are back up plans in case Vegas falls through. But in all honesty Im sure behind the scenes a Vegas deal all but done.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/14/nba-team-under-contract-if-las-vegas-builds-arena/

Check that article. Notice the team in question is a 'secret'. It is all a secret to lessen the blow to Sacramento and the Maloofs.

IversonIsKrazy
10-01-2010, 07:10 PM
VANCOUVERRR PLLLLZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pray:

Denver-boy
10-01-2010, 07:13 PM
Go 2 Las Vegas!! that would be pretty SICK!!! Las Vegas Devils.... I can see it already

Pittsberge needs to have a nba team, Pittsberge Kings has a ring to it

Randy West
10-01-2010, 07:18 PM
I know people that live in Las Vegas. Believe it or not - outside of the strip it a pretty regular US city. Many of the people who live in Vegas never go to the strip because it is just filled with tourists.

As I said before, I feel like the NBA and Maloofs are doing everything they can to make it look like they are being forced out of Sacramento. They are doing everything they can to make it look like they aren't ditching Sacramento for Las Vegas.

Thats my opinion and it isn't changing. Why on earth would they move a franchise from California to Kansas City or Saint Louis? I can kinda see maybe San Diego or San Jose but those don't make as much sense as Vegas.

I think San Diego and San Jose are back up plans in case Vegas falls through. But in all honesty Im sure behind the scenes a Vegas deal all but done.

Even your own article uses the term IF an arena is built, that is a pretty big if. It also mentions the investors wanting to purchase a team and that Detroit is for sale. It does not state they would like to move a team AND it's current owners.

I lived in Vegas for four years myself. I know the last thing we were ever worried about doing when we were going out was going to a basketball game. That could be different now for sure I don't really know.

I know there is no arena and those just don't go up over night usually. I also know from the article that sports teams try and use the "were moving to Vegas or insert other name here______" as a ploy to get what they want usually. The article I pasted said basically that's what the Pittsburgh hockey team just got through doing with Vegas.

You could be right with your opinion, and I am not trying to change it by any means. All I can do is go with what is being put out there for the time being. And nothing as of yet says the Kings are moving to Vegas or anywhere else for that matter.

Could there be some hush hush negotiations behind the scenes, of course there could. But they also may not be happening at this moment, just as plausible all things considered.

Denver-boy
10-01-2010, 07:21 PM
I blame this on the 2002 Lakers. that WCF fiasco killed that team.

Anyway there are also rumors of them moving to San Jose ( will play in HP Pavilion where Sharks play) . Maloofs already moved the Monarchs ( http://www.wnba.com/monarchs_thankyou.html ) down so...


http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/10/10/1079066/report-kings-have-recently-talked

i vote that sig of the YEAR, is that katy Perry? cant tell im too Distracted by something else :speechless:

PraiseJesus
10-01-2010, 07:34 PM
Even your own article uses the term IF an arena is built, that is a pretty big if. It also mentions the investors wanting to purchase a team and that Detroit is for sale. It does not state they would like to move a team AND it's current owners.

I lived in Vegas for four years myself. I know the last thing we were ever worried about doing when we were going out was going to a basketball game. That could be different now for sure I don't really know.

I know there is no arena and those just don't go up over night usually. I also know from the article that sports teams try and use the "were moving to Vegas or insert other name here______" as a ploy to get what they want usually. The article I pasted said basically that's what the Pittsburgh hockey team just got through doing with Vegas.

You could be right with your opinion, and I am not trying to change it by any means. All I can do is go with what is being put out there for the time being. And nothing as of yet says the Kings are moving to Vegas or anywhere else for that matter.

Could there be some hush hush negotiations behind the scenes, of course there could. But they also may not be happening at this moment, just as plausible all things considered.

The reason Detroit is mentioned is too distract everything from Sacramento.

You are mentioning what is put out there - that is great - but what you are mentioning is deliberate propaganda to disconnect the Kings from anything Vegas related.

If the NBA wanted to be in Sacramento so badly why would they back out of negotiations? The reason is because the owners and David Stern have decided that they want the NBA in Las Vegas.

The Arena will take 1.5 years to build and the Kings would likely play in the UNLV area temporarily.

By this time next year Tyreke and DMC will be getting ready for their Vegas debut.

Klivlend
10-01-2010, 07:50 PM
Agreed :up:. St. Louis has proven it can support multiple major pro franchises. Vegas would be great (especially for the Maloofs) but no city is more fit than St Louis.

What about Seattle? We miss the Sonics up here!

BuddhaMONK
10-01-2010, 09:24 PM
What about Seattle? We miss the Sonics up here!

Vancouver, time to bring the best city in North America their team back.

Bucsfan
10-02-2010, 09:30 AM
i wouldnt mind them going to kc...but i doubt vegas ever happens

THE GIPPER
10-02-2010, 10:05 AM
UMMM how bout Vancouver, it has more people then kansas city and las vegas, has stadiums left over from the olympics, plus it can draw from Victoia, Bc and seattle region (until they get thier team back), and they averaged more fans in their last season of existance without a tv contract and knowing they would be relocated at the end of the season then last years memphis grizzles (good job Stern). Plus the Canadian dollar is almost at par with the US and has surpassed it a few times. Furthermore, they can get Steve Nash to be part owner as he`s nearing retirement.

Vancouver last season
200001 23-59 record average attendance 13,737
Memphis last season
2009 - 10 40-42 record average attendance 13,485

**note the fact that memphis also had 17 MORE WINS!

If your averaging nearly 14,000 fans with no tv contract, only 23 wins, no star players, and knowing your going to be relocated at the end of the season those are some die hard fans. They also averaged more fans then Seattle in there last season, anyone who thinks Seattle is the most deserving is dumb don't even talk.

man i feel what your sayin...ppl always just forget that van got screwed hard. we deserves a team again

KingsPhillies
10-02-2010, 11:09 AM
Jeez, you guys are acting like this is a done deal. Is it crunch time for this issue? Most definitely. But it's not over just yet. Last time I checked, they were still the Sacramento Kings, and will be playing the upcoming season in Sacramento. And when all is said and done, I think the city of Sacramento will pull their heads out of their ***** and get something done. Because trust me, the mere thought of the Kings leaving Sac sickens us.

The good thing is, season ticket sales are already up from last season. And for a while the Maloofs have been adamant about getting butts back in the seats before we even worry about anything else. Which, from a business standpoint, makes a lot of sense. I think if they see attendance numbers increase and start selling out games again, they'll get it in gear. And with the excitement surrounding our young team, anything can happen within the next year.

I'm not trying to say places like KC, St. Louis and Seattle don't deserve a team...I just don't want them to take my Kings! It's a shame what happened in Seattle. Their fans deserved better; we all know that. And Missouri would be a great place for an NBA team. I went to college there and still have friends in both KC and St. Louis that I visit from time to time. Both are great cities that would welcome a team with open arms(especially KC). Vegas would not work, so everyone can just stop with that. They couldn't even keep an arena football team. Too many people are constantly coming and going from Vegas for the city to build up a real fan base for a major sports team. Then there's the gambling issue on top of that. All in all, as bleak as everyone seems to think the situation is, I do not see the Kings leaving Sacramento.

ZebraCity916
10-02-2010, 12:04 PM
The reason Detroit is mentioned is too distract everything from Sacramento.

You are mentioning what is put out there - that is great - but what you are mentioning is deliberate propaganda to disconnect the Kings from anything Vegas related.

If the NBA wanted to be in Sacramento so badly why would they back out of negotiations? The reason is because the owners and David Stern have decided that they want the NBA in Las Vegas.

The Arena will take 1.5 years to build and the Kings would likely play in the UNLV area temporarily.

By this time next year Tyreke and DMC will be getting ready for their Vegas debut.

Your reasoning is all conspiracy and speculation. You have no facts backing up your statements.

Pack_Attack6
10-02-2010, 03:06 PM
Omaha, NE... We can sell out a stadium of 25,000 for minor league football NBA would be awesome

0nekhmer
10-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Canada needs another team :D we have more financial flexibility anyway

PraiseJesus
10-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Your reasoning is all conspiracy and speculation. You have no facts backing up your statements.

The facts are right there in the open.

1. The Kings are on the verge of leaving Sacramento.
2. Las Vegas is on the vegre of building a new arena on the Strip
3. The owners of the Kings own one of the premiere Casinos in Las Vegas
4. David Stearn has said flat out he wants a team in Vegas and he speaks for all owners.

TheShock45
10-02-2010, 07:09 PM
That sucks, never good to see a team loved by their fans leave the city, pretty sad.

are they loved by there fans??? they do battle for last with the sixers in attendance over the past few years.

DerekRE_3
10-02-2010, 07:22 PM
are they loved by there fans??? they do battle for last with the sixers in attendance over the past few years.

This decade the Kings have sold out tickets 7 out of the 10 years. Recently the team hasn't been good, but ticket prices stayed about the same. An inferior product combined with a down economy means less people are going to come. But, the Kings have sold more season tickets this year than they did at any point last year. It's because they are finally lowering ticket prices and doing a good job of promoting special ticket deals. For example, for 400 bucks you can get season tickets now.

ZebraCity916
10-02-2010, 09:14 PM
The facts are right there in the open.

1. The Kings are on the verge of leaving Sacramento.
2. Las Vegas is on the vegre of building a new arena on the Strip
3. The owners of the Kings own one of the premiere Casinos in Las Vegas
4. David Stearn has said flat out he wants a team in Vegas and he speaks for all owners.

What does the Maloof's own the Palms have to do with anything?? The Maloofs have never said they wanna move the Kings to Vegas. And give me a link that Stern said he wants an NBA team in Vegas. Also, from what I understand is that the arena is being built so that the owners of that arena can buy a team, not move one there.

John Walls Era
10-02-2010, 09:30 PM
Seattle or Vegas. Seattle Kings doesn't sound as good as the Vegas Kings tho.

Heater4life
10-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Seattle!!!!!!!!

xabial
10-02-2010, 09:49 PM
Thats a good team. The Next OKC Thunder. Cant build a team better then Sac. THey drafted Right, got ROY Tyreke Evans, Drafted causins who was top 3 potential if it wasnt for his character issues got him with the 5th pick. Hassan Whiteside is was projected to be a 1st rounder, top 18-20's, getting him in the 2nd round was a steal. This is a solid Team, that im a fan of. Built right through the draft from the heart

ccg34
10-02-2010, 10:03 PM
Hopefully the Kings don't move. The reason the team wasn't supported attendance wise is because they weren't a playoff contending team. Same thing happened to Seattle. If you build up a winner, the attendance will rise. It is not fair to blame the fans for not attending games. Who wants to see their home team get whooped by the Lakers or Magic? But if they do leave, it would be right to send them to Seattle. If Seattle had last years Thunder team, Seattle would have great attendance every game. It would be like the days of GP, Shawn Kemp, Hershey Hawkins, Schremph, and Nate McMilan.

ccg34
10-02-2010, 10:07 PM
Hopefully Sactown doesn't get robbed of a team like my Sonics. Sacramento was one of my favorite teams to watch when the had webber, divac, christie, bibby,stojakavic, and bobby jackson.

uprightciti
10-02-2010, 10:08 PM
The kings are def gonna move to vegas
Its a bookies dream

This season is the most important season the kings have had in recent years
If cousins doenst turn out like eddie curry or greg oden I see them having a premire power forward

Casspri shows signs of being a very productive 3rd of 4th option

And evens will be an mvp
He is one of 5 pllayers to have his averages his rookie year

Vegas seems llike the best place fore them

And cali don't need 4 teams

Vegas vs okc wfc 2013

uprightciti
10-02-2010, 10:09 PM
Sorry wcf

Raps08-09 Champ
10-02-2010, 10:46 PM
Vancover Kings.

But the Kings will be legit very legit if Whiteside, Cousins and Evans live up to their potential. Imagine if Hassan learned to play PF. :drool: That would be deadly with Whitesides athleticimn and Cousins strenght.

C-Cousins
PF-Whiteside
SF-Casspi
SG-Evans
PG-?

City of Angels
10-02-2010, 10:47 PM
I think they should move to a city without a sports team

How about Santa Barbara

THE WALL
10-02-2010, 11:04 PM
HELL NO! Stay in Sac please

Oldmantrash
10-02-2010, 11:07 PM
Move to the Rock in 2 years,afterthe Nets move to Brooklyn.

They do it in Hockey,why not basketball.

PraiseJesus
10-03-2010, 01:10 AM
What does the Maloof's own the Palms have to do with anything?? The Maloofs have never said they wanna move the Kings to Vegas. And give me a link that Stern said he wants an NBA team in Vegas. Also, from what I understand is that the arena is being built so that the owners of that arena can buy a team, not move one there.

http://thesportseconomist.com/labels/David%20Stern.htm


NBA commissioner David Stern said yesterday that he's "positive" the All-Star Game in Las Vegas this weekend will lead to "initial discussions" about allowing a team to relocate permanently to that city.

In an interview with Newsday, Stern said he has not dropped his objections to having a team in Las Vegas while NBA games are on the city's gambling books. But in a significant change in position, Stern said he would not stand in the way if league owners voted to move a team to Las Vegas without taking games off the betting lines.

"Absolutely, not, I wouldn't," Stern said in a 20-minute phone conversation advancing the league's first All-Star Game in a non-NBA city.

The story was sent by a longtime TSE reader who understands how an effective cartel operates. He opines:

So, let's see, the Maloofs just lost in a landslide election in Sacramento, there are no new prospects around here, the Maloofs have stronger ties to Vegas than to Sacramento, and are hosting the All Star game in Vegas this coming weekend, and all the early-exit clauses that went with the original Kings loan expire this coming summer...

Nah. All just a long sequence of pure coincidences. There's no connection here. Nothing to see here, ladies and gentlemen. Move ahead, please.

Har.

Stearn has made multiple comments that he would welcome a team in Las Vegas. This thing has been slowly coming together for years.

This is the last year in Sacramento for the Kings

DerekRE_3
10-03-2010, 01:13 AM
Vancover Kings.

But the Kings will be legit very legit if Whiteside, Cousins and Evans live up to their potential. Imagine if Hassan learned to play PF. :drool: That would be deadly with Whitesides athleticimn and Cousins strenght.

C-Cousins
PF-Whiteside
SF-Casspi
SG-Evans
PG-?

The Kings see Whiteside as a PF and Cousins as a center. What's also awesome is that Whiteside was told he needed to get stronger, and proceeded to gain 25 pounds of muscle in 2 months. The Kings have some serious length now. Donte Greene grew to 7 feet tall and added 25 pounds so he's up to 7'0 250 pounds. Casspi got stronger and is 6'9. So the Kings have a 6'6 PG with a 7 foot wingspan, 6'9 SF, 7'0 SF, 7'0 PF with a 7'7 wingspan, a 6'11 PF, and 2 6'11 Centers with great length as well.

ZebraCity916
10-03-2010, 01:34 AM
http://thesportseconomist.com/labels/David%20Stern.htm



Stearn has made multiple comments that he would welcome a team in Las Vegas. This thing has been slowly coming together for years.

This is the last year in Sacramento for the Kings

Stern never said that he wants a team there. He just wouldn't object to it. But casino's would have to not take bets on games. You know how hard that would be?? That's what Las Vegas is all about. A Las Vegas team is still a long shot. You know how many team have been in Vegas and never lasted because of their bad fanbase?? There's been like over 7 teams. None of them are pro teams but still, if they can't fill a small arena, how are they gonna fill a big arena??

Raps08-09 Champ
10-03-2010, 01:43 AM
The Kings see Whiteside as a PF and Cousins as a center. What's also awesome is that Whiteside was told he needed to get stronger, and proceeded to gain 25 pounds of muscle in 2 months. The Kings have some serious length now. Donte Greene grew to 7 feet tall and added 25 pounds so he's up to 7'0 250 pounds. Casspi got stronger and is 6'9. So the Kings have a 6'6 PG with a 7 foot wingspan, 6'9 SF, 7'0 SF, 7'0 PF with a 7'7 wingspan, a 6'11 PF, and 2 6'11 Centers with great length as well.

That makes things a whole lot better.

It depends on their front court though. Cousins and Whiteside have a high bust potential compared to some of the other players in this draft. They need to mature a lot attitude and game wise for them to be really legit.

Wade>You
10-03-2010, 01:50 AM
Vegas for sure.

PraiseJesus
10-03-2010, 02:50 AM
Stern never said that he wants a team there. He just wouldn't object to it. But casino's would have to not take bets on games. You know how hard that would be?? That's what Las Vegas is all about. A Las Vegas team is still a long shot. You know how many team have been in Vegas and never lasted because of their bad fanbase?? There's been like over 7 teams. None of them are pro teams but still, if they can't fill a small arena, how are they gonna fill a big arena??

Its not that hard, They already do it for UNLV games and they did it for the all star game. All they say is that they cant bet on Kings games but they can bet on any other NBA game.

A las vegas team would make tons of cash be because it woul be fun to watch a NBA game on teh strip. Especially if they are playing a team like the Heat - the whole strip would be on FIRE. Who wouldn't go see that game.

IF the Kings became contenders the Strip would be filled with Kings fans tryin to get tickets best show in town.

The owners already approve of it.

Vegas Kings on the strip get your rooms ready

tyfreaks brotha
10-03-2010, 10:53 AM
You guys do realize we may stay in sac-town right?????? Just making this clear. Were not 100% going to move we still have a chance..

tyfreaks brotha
10-03-2010, 10:53 AM
So if you want us to stay in sac please buy season tickets!!!!! That can help us out a little

tyfreaks brotha
10-03-2010, 10:58 AM
The kings are def gonna move to vegas
Its a bookies dream

This season is the most important season the kings have had in recent years
If cousins doenst turn out like eddie curry or greg oden I see them having a premire power forward

Casspri shows signs of being a very productive 3rd of 4th option

And evens will be an mvp
He is one of 5 pllayers to have his averages his rookie year

Vegas seems llike the best place fore them

And cali don't need 4 teams

Vegas vs okc wfc 2013
We are not going to move to vegas. If we moved there NO one would hardly buy tickets everyone would be gambling. And there is a higher chance of death or even a player skipping a major game because they were threatened to get killed. I know this sounds dumb and all but trust me I know. Just not a good economy for any type of sport.

DerekRE_3
10-03-2010, 12:18 PM
That makes things a whole lot better.

It depends on their front court though. Cousins and Whiteside have a high bust potential compared to some of the other players in this draft. They need to mature a lot attitude and game wise for them to be really legit.

Yep, there's also Carl Landry and Jason Thompson in that mix though. It's not all on them. They were risky picks, but I think they were risks that we had to take.

BuddhaMONK
10-03-2010, 07:00 PM
1) Vancouver
2)Seattle
3)St louis
In that order

wileyisTOFU
10-03-2010, 07:52 PM
Kansas City has a sick new arena, they support the **** out of the chiefs. Maybe they can swap the kings for the royals?

wileyisTOFU
10-03-2010, 07:54 PM
Yep, there's also Carl Landry and Jason Thompson in that mix though. It's not all on them. They were risky picks, but I think they were risks that we had to take.

yall get Carl for Kevin Martin...

Carls a beast to, any city that gets your team will be as lucky as OKC was with getting a quality young team.

Raps08-09 Champ
10-03-2010, 07:55 PM
Yep, there's also Carl Landry and Jason Thompson in that mix though. It's not all on them. They were risky picks, but I think they were risks that we had to take.

Landry and Thompson are good but I don't really see them being that 20 and 10 big man that teams usually need to succeed. They could get those numbers but I don't think the team will be successful.

rhymeratic
10-03-2010, 08:19 PM
They will go to Cancun, Mexico or Puerto Rico. Let the expansion outside US begin.

No way they ever revisit Canada...
KC has a shot and history to back them up.

Seattle won't get a team unless its via expansion.

WolvesJagsOs
10-03-2010, 08:51 PM
Kansas City has a sick new arena, they support the **** out of the chiefs. Maybe they can swap the kings for the royals?

haha, i think they would support all 3 teams pretty well.

NYtilIdie
10-03-2010, 09:05 PM
yall get Carl for Kevin Martin...

Carls a beast to, any city that gets your team will be as lucky as OKC was with getting a quality young team.

I would make that deal in a heart beat, although I would miss going to Kauffman Stadium.

ZebraCity916
10-03-2010, 09:54 PM
Its not that hard, They already do it for UNLV games and they did it for the all star game. All they say is that they cant bet on Kings games but they can bet on any other NBA game.

A las vegas team would make tons of cash be because it woul be fun to watch a NBA game on teh strip. Especially if they are playing a team like the Heat - the whole strip would be on FIRE. Who wouldn't go see that game.

IF the Kings became contenders the Strip would be filled with Kings fans tryin to get tickets best show in town.

The owners already approve of it.

Vegas Kings on the strip get your rooms ready

You think tourists are gonna wanna watch a basketball game or go to some famous, once in a life time show?? Pretty sure tourist aren't gonna be spending money on a basketball game they can see every night on TV. Get real. Las Vegas is all about entertainment. If a professional sports team could make it in Las Vegas, don't you think there would be one there already??

And again, the people that are making the arena are looking to buy a team, not get someone to move a team there. And from what I've read, the arena isn't even gonna start being built until next year sometime so even if the Kings are gonna be moving there, it ain't gonna be after this season.

DerekRE_3
10-03-2010, 11:35 PM
Landry and Thompson are good but I don't really see them being that 20 and 10 big man that teams usually need to succeed. They could get those numbers but I don't think the team will be successful.

Well that's where DeMarcus Cousins comes in. He can be that 20 and 10 guy, and average 3-4 assists as well. He's already a beast on the offensive and defensive glass. People just can't move him. I was at the Kings open practice tonight and Cousins had some awesome outlet passes after he got the rebound. He hit a couple cutters from the post as well. He even hit a stepback mid range jumper and another 19 footer from the extended elbow when he faced up his defender. He already has good footwork in the post and nice touch around the basket. The guy can literally do it all. He just needs to continue to get better conditioned and work on his defense (what rookie doesn't).

This season the Kings get to decide who to keep long term, Thompson or Landry. There's also Sam Dalembert's expiring contract that we can use in a trade. The Kings may even want to re-sign him if the price is right. I'd much rather have a debate on which bigs we should keep, instead of not having enough of them and wishing we did.