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agoody117
09-25-2010, 11:29 AM
Arolids had his most impressive outing last night.


A little rest did Aroldis Chapman a lot of good. He had his most impressive night as a Red.

Chapman came in and struck on Adrian Gonzalez on three pitches to end the seventh. They were 101, 102, 103.

Chapman pitched the eighth as well, throwing a total of 25 pitches. He hit 105 on one. All were at least 100 mph. Three hit 104.

Chapman’s 105 mph pitch is the fastest recorded in major league history.

“He’s had some rest,” Dusty Baker said. “That’s why we didn’t pitch him for a couple of days. When a guy throws that hard, he’s going to be a little tender. We’ve got to take care of him.”

Fastest Recorded MLB Pitches (via Yahoo!)

Name Team Year MPH
Aroldis Chapman Reds 2010 105
Joel Zumaya Tigers 2006 104.8
Aroldis Chapman Reds 2010 104
Mark Wohlers Braves 1995 103
Armando Benitez Giants 2002 102
Jonathan Broxton Dodgers 2009 102
Neftali Feliz Rangers 2010 102
Bobby Jenks White Sox 2005 102
Randy Johnson Diamondbacks 2004 102
Matt Lindstrom Marlins 2007 102
Robb Nen Marlins 1997 102
Justin Verlander Tigers 2007 102


http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/09/25/chapman-hits-105/

I guess that gun down in Louisville everyone was doubting as accurate was accurate.

:speechless:

ShaqShoes
09-25-2010, 11:55 AM
Within the next two years he requires Tommy John. Book it.

MetsLegacy
09-25-2010, 11:59 AM
Within the next two years he requires Tommy John. Book it.

This.

Oh, and Parnell was throwing 103 earlier this year and isn't on the list. Just a complete homer note right there.

TheRuckus
09-25-2010, 12:03 PM
His arm is going to implode eventually.

fantasytensai
09-25-2010, 12:16 PM
Within the next two months he requires Tommy John. Book it.

there, fixed.

Uncle Sam
09-25-2010, 12:16 PM
He's justa left handed Joel Zumya. If he can pitch a year without getting injured as a starter, though, 300 ks

Vandelay16
09-25-2010, 12:51 PM
Impressive....if the gun wasn't hot. But ya I foresee an injury in the near future.

metsfaninSTL
09-25-2010, 12:52 PM
there, fixed.

yes. he will get hurt in the playoffs and blow the reds chances

jay87shot
09-25-2010, 12:58 PM
I'm not a reds fan but if his body can develop right I dont think his arm will have troubles. His delivery is fairly smooth. When he starts he won't be throwing 103-105 i would guess 98-100 but this guy has a shot at greatness, only 22.

Jack of Blades
09-25-2010, 01:00 PM
Feliz's highest is 103 not 102.

redwhitenblue
09-25-2010, 01:02 PM
I'm not a reds fan but if his body can develop right I dont think his arm will have troubles. His delivery is fairly smooth. When he starts he won't be throwing 103-105 i would guess 98-100 but this guy has a shot at greatness, only 22.
He'll have arm trouble. For one thing he's not throwing it on rare occassion, he's constantly throwing as hard as possible.


It's still unfortunate that there is no way to accurately judge the fastest pitch ever since guns have different calibrations in every park.

fadedmario
09-25-2010, 01:25 PM
2 Tigers on this list. We got some flame throwers

Kakaroach
09-25-2010, 01:46 PM
Watched it live last night, it was awesome.

Corey
09-25-2010, 01:52 PM
The thing people are missing here is that he isn't a one trick pony.

Chapman has a plus slider and a pretty good changeup too.

He doesn't need to throw 100 every pitch.

patrickny209
09-25-2010, 02:39 PM
"Armando Benitez Giants 2002 102"

Benitez was with the Mets until 2003. And no friggin way he threw 102 MPH that year...

Fred
09-25-2010, 02:55 PM
I think the media makes much too big of a deal about high radar gun readings. ******** *** ESPN had Chapman's 105 MPH pitch as a bigger story than the SF/COL or SD/CIN games last night.

maybe they have some insider information that he is getting traded to Bos or NYY....otherwise, you might not have heard about it...

agoody117
09-25-2010, 02:58 PM
Reds lost. Super awesome, BRAH.

I know - the reds have toned it down during september and seem to want to 'coast' into the playoffs. but they need to put their foot on the gas. If we end up with the phillies in round 1 it will be a quick 3 games and the season would be over.

TheRuckus
09-25-2010, 03:23 PM
The thing people are missing here is that he isn't a one trick pony.

Chapman has a plus slider and a pretty good changeup too.

He doesn't need to throw 100 every pitch.

The slider's more dangerous in terms of arm injuries than the fastball is. But 105 is just...ridiculous. That's close to the upper limit of what a human body is capable of.

crankyrayhanky
09-25-2010, 03:52 PM
as a Phillies fan, I don't want to face this guy!

lincecum=future
09-25-2010, 03:56 PM
Forget the 105 mph pitch the more impressive feat is that Benitez threw 102 with the giants??? :laugh2:

Buckwheat
09-25-2010, 04:58 PM
The thing people are missing here is that he isn't a one trick pony.

Chapman has a plus slider and a pretty good changeup too.

He doesn't need to throw 100 every pitch.

But he does...

I75
09-26-2010, 11:16 AM
Dusty Baker Destroys Aroldis Chapman's Arm Within Minutes Of Arrival

CINCINNATI—Within just a few minutes of Cuban pitcher Aroldis Chapman's arrival in the United States, Reds manager Dusty Baker had already overused and mangled the 21-year-old's arm beyond recognition, team sources reported Sunday. Baker, who has been accused of overtaxing young pitchers' arms in the past, reportedly greeted Chapman with a bucket of 250 baseballs and told him to "hurl them" as fast as he could, later encouraging the fastballer to "go nuts" with his pitching style. "He didn't even let me stretch out first," Chapman told reporters through an interpreter. "And when I started to wince from the pain and soreness, he just gave me a thumbs up, winked, and told me to keep throwing." At press time, Chapman had already been to the hospital for an oblique strain, a torn rotator cuff, and his second Tommy John surgery of the week.

The Onion

Kinsm
09-26-2010, 01:53 PM
He's justa left handed Joel Zumya. If he can pitch a year without getting injured as a starter, though, 300 ks

His delivery and mechanics in general are much more fluid than Joel Zumaya's.


AGoody - Fastest RECORDED....

Halladay
09-26-2010, 06:25 PM
The thing people are missing here is that he isn't a one trick pony.

Chapman has a plus slider and a pretty good changeup too.

He doesn't need to throw 100 every pitch.

This. There's been many players who have thrown around 100MPH over the years but a)they have no secondary stuff and or b)they don't know how to "pitch". Another thing is, MLB hitters adjust pretty well no matter how hard a guy throws and they will, eventually do it to Chapman too.

mdlr52192
09-26-2010, 07:04 PM
“He’s had some rest,” Dusty Baker said. “That’s why we didn’t pitch him for a couple of days. When a guy throws that hard, he’s going to be a little tender. We’ve got to take care of him.”

I found this hilarious

eXpLiiCt
09-26-2010, 07:55 PM
Joel Zumaya thew 102 mph like 100 times :D

eXpLiiCt
09-26-2010, 07:56 PM
Then his hand es plo did

Pinstripe pride
09-26-2010, 08:01 PM
Within the next two years he requires Tommy John. Book it.

i'd say spot on right there

dtmagnet
09-26-2010, 08:46 PM
Wish the Jays could have signed him, thats impressive.

Bravefan29
09-26-2010, 09:09 PM
See this is the only problem I see, he has thrown the fastest recorded pitch as long as the radar gun has been used, but Bob Feller once threw a pitch clocked at 107 mph so I would not just discount this because of the technology used during that period.

TheRuckus
09-27-2010, 12:39 AM
Wish the Jays could have signed him, thats impressive.

I can't stop watching that sig gif.

agoody117
09-27-2010, 08:58 AM
I can't stop watching that sig gif.

I agree - that is amazing.

Rylinkus
09-27-2010, 09:20 AM
See this is the only problem I see, he has thrown the fastest recorded pitch as long as the radar gun has been used, but Bob Feller once threw a pitch clocked at 107 mph so I would not just discount this because of the technology used during that period.

Wasn't Feller's 107 mph pitch being measured on the salt flats using a moving motorcycle as a gauge? IIRC, when he had his pitches measured by the military using accurate technilogy he was no where near the 107 mph.

agoody117
09-27-2010, 04:22 PM
He'll have arm trouble. For one thing he's not throwing it on rare occassion, he's constantly throwing as hard as possible.



I feel like arm trouble arises more out of an issue of mechianics rather than velocity.

For all the hard throwers out there who needed surgery there are those out there that didn't. There are examples on both sides.

Silent
09-27-2010, 04:31 PM
this guy will be the next prior he needs to slow it down or a injury will occur very soon

masTOR_shake1
09-27-2010, 07:16 PM
holy ****

Burkey3472
09-27-2010, 07:41 PM
His body is just going to break down, the human arm usually can't throw that fast and last that long.us

Bravefan29
09-27-2010, 07:51 PM
Wasn't Feller's 107 mph pitch being measured on the salt flats using a moving motorcycle as a gauge? IIRC, when he had his pitches measured by the military using accurate technilogy he was no where near the 107 mph.

here is footage of Feller being clocked by army ordinance equipment (used to measure artillery shell velocity) and hitting 98.6. However, this took place in the later years of his career, and the machine used, like most of the machines at the time, measured the speed of the ball as it crossed the plate whereas now the speed is measured as it leaves the pitcher's hand. Feller once mentioned that he was clocked at 104 mph at Lincoln Park in Chicago. He also threw the second fastest pitch ever officially recorded, at 107.6 mph, in a game in 1946 at Griffith Stadium. Baseball Almanac.

fantasytensai
09-27-2010, 08:03 PM
If that Onion article is true, it makes me want to kill Dusty Baker for ruining a young talent. Of course, I just slapped myself in the face for saying "if that Onion article is true"

PartyBoy13
09-28-2010, 02:21 AM
Nobody here makes mention of Walter Johnson, who only had one pitch in his repertoire and that's all he needed to win 417 games. Some say that they never saw the pitch, they just heard it whiz by. Too bad there was no radar gun back in the early 1900's.

Bravefan29
09-28-2010, 02:42 AM
Nobody here makes mention of Walter Johnson, who only had one pitch in his repertoire and that's all he needed to win 417 games. Some say that they never saw the pitch, they just heard it whiz by. Too bad there was no radar gun back in the early 1900's.

I agree I think some of the all time greats threw faster, I was taking about Feller, but Johnson was clocked before as well, it was a primitive system that used feet per second, I read about it on baseball almanac.

PartyBoy13
09-28-2010, 02:51 AM
I agree I think some of the all time greats threw faster, I was taking about Feller, but Johnson was clocked before as well, it was a primitive system that used feet per second, I read about it on baseball almanac.

At least we both agree, Feller and Johnson are more impressive than Zumaya and Chapman.

Rylinkus
09-28-2010, 12:21 PM
here is footage of Feller being clocked by army ordinance equipment (used to measure artillery shell velocity) and hitting 98.6. However, this took place in the later years of his career, and the machine used, like most of the machines at the time, measured the speed of the ball as it crossed the plate whereas now the speed is measured as it leaves the pitcher's hand. Feller once mentioned that he was clocked at 104 mph at Lincoln Park in Chicago. He also threw the second fastest pitch ever officially recorded, at 107.6 mph, in a game in 1946 at Griffith Stadium. Baseball Almanac.


If you read the article on baseball almanac is says that.


Feller once mentioned that he was clocked at 104 mph at Lincoln Park in Chicago. He also claimed he was clocked at 107.9 mph in a demonstration in 1946 at Griffith Stadium.

So it doesn't sound like there's any evidence aside from the fact that Feller claims he threw that hard. :shrug:

JRisdabest
09-28-2010, 01:12 PM
in 4 -5 yrs his arm will give out

Bigblock63
09-28-2010, 01:37 PM
If he continues to pitch as he is, I don't think he'll be around long. But if they do insert him as a starter next year he'll be a lot better off. I watched him pitch in AAA this year and he only hit 100 2 or 3 times in the game I saw (which was also his longest outing). Most of it was mid 90's followed by that nasty slider. You also have to keep in mind that he's only been pitching for 4 years. When the Reds signed him they immediately had his arm checked in every way possible and it was found to be in perfect condition. Not to say he can't be Dusty-ized though.

Double_R
09-28-2010, 02:00 PM
If Dusty Baker wasn't his manager, he might have a good career, but instead he's gonna be just another Mark Prior or Kerry Wood.