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JordansBulls
09-21-2010, 08:26 AM
http://www.operationsports.com/feature.php?id=1138



Top 5 PG:
Wade 97 (listed as pg on game starting 5)
Paul 95
Williams 92
Rondo 87
Rose/Nash 85

Top 5 SG:
Bryant 97
Johnson/Roy 88
Jackson/Ellis 84

Top 5 SF:
James 97
Melo 93
Durant 91
Iguodala 85
Wallace 84

Top 5 PF:
Duncan 90
Gasol 89
Bosh 87
Boozer 85
Smith/Dirk 83

Top 5 C:
Howard 88
Amare 86
Yao 83
Jefferson 80
Bogut 82







85-86 BULLS
93 - Michael Jordan (SG)
80 - George Gervin (SF)
79 - Orlando Woolridge (SF)
75 - Charles Oakley (PF)
69 - John Paxson (PG)
68 - Kyle Macy (PG)
65 - Dave Corzine (C)

85-86 CELTICS
96 - Larry Bird (SF)
85 - Robert Parish (C)
85 - Kevin McHale (PF)
81 - Dennis Johnson (PG)
74 - Danny Ainge (SG)

89-90 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
87 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 - Horace Grant (PF)
72 - John Paxson (PG)
71 - Bill Cartwright (C)
69 - Craig Hodges (SG)

89-90 HAWKS
90 - Dominique Wilkins (SF)
82 - Moses Malone (C)
80 - Doc Rivers (PG)
76 - Kevin Willis (PF)
74 - Spud Webb (PG)
66 - Cliff Levingston (PF)

89-90 CAVALIERS
85 - Mark Price (PG)
82 - Brad Daugherty (C)
79 - Larry Nance (SF)
76 - Craig Ehlo (SG)
74 - John Williams (PF)
71 - Steve Kerr (PG)

89-90 PISTONS
90 - Isiah Thomas (PG)
87 - Joe Dumars (SG)
83 - Bill Laimbeer (PF)
77 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
70 - James Edwards (C)

90-91 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
87 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 - Horace Grant (PF)
72 - John Paxson (PG)
71 - Bill Cartwright (C)
69 - Craig Hodges (SG)

90-91 LAKERS
92 - Magic Johnson (PG)
86 - James Worthy (SF)
79 - Byron Scott (SG)
75 - Vlade Divac (C)
74 - Sam Perkins (C)

91-92 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
90 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
82 - Horace Grant (PF)
72 - John Paxson (PG)
70 - B.J. Armstrong (PG)
68 - Will Perdue (C)

91-92 BLAZERS
93 - Clyde Drexler (SG)
84 - Terry Porter (PG)
79 - Jerome Kersey (SF)
77 - Clifford Robinson (PF)
77 - Buck Williams (PF)
73 - Danny Ainge (SG)

94-95 BULLS
97 - Michael Jordan (SG)
92 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
76 - Ron Harper (SG)
75 - B.J. Armstrong (PG)
70 - Will Perdue (C)
69 - Toni Kukoc (PF)

94-95 KNICKS
89 - Patrick Ewing (C)
80 - Charles Oakley (PF)
80 - John Starks (SG)
75 - Anthony Mason (PF)
73 - Derek Harper (PG)

95-96 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
92 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
81 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
73 - Ron Harper (PG)
71 - Steve Kerr (PG)
70 - Toni Kukoc (PF)

95-96 SONICS
91 - Gary Payton (PG)
89 - Shawn Kemp (PF)
80 - Hersey Hawkins (SG)
79 - Detlef Schrempf (SF)
72 - Sam Perkins (C)

96-97 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
92 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
81 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
73 - Ron Harper (PG)
72 - Toni Kukoc (PF)
71 - Steve Kerr (PG)

96-97 JAZZ
90 - Karl Malone (PF) (too low to me)
88 - John Stockton (PG)
80 - Jeff Hornacek (SG)
72 - Bryon Russell (SF)
64 - Adam Keefe (SF)

97-98 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
90 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
73 - Toni Kukoc (PF)
72 - Ron Harper (PG)
70 - Luc Longley (C)

97-98 JAZZ
90 - Karl Malone (PF) (too low to me)
88 - John Stockton (PG)
80 - Jeff Hornacek (SG)
72 - Bryon Russell (SF)
64 - Adam Keefe (SF)

Ollie Tabooger
09-21-2010, 08:30 AM
Ersan Ilyasova is underrated. Tracy McGrady is overrated.

BirdIsTheWord
09-21-2010, 08:39 AM
No Brandon Jennings on the Bucks?

BirdIsTheWord
09-21-2010, 08:41 AM
but on further reading he's in the Point Guards. Very well

pebloemer
09-21-2010, 08:43 AM
Jennings wasn't listed under Bucks. Noticed he was listed under PG's though.

Ratings seem pretty good overall. I was surprised so many Pistons were 70's though. Not sure Wallace and McGrady warrant those ratings anymore.

Htownballa1622
09-21-2010, 08:43 AM
Bogut underrated along with bosh and amare.boozer maybe a little underrated.

TheDagger
09-21-2010, 08:43 AM
Bogut...an 83? Wow what a joke

Also IIRC there were some other leaks including Durant being an 88 which was a head scratcher as well.

NYKalltheway
09-21-2010, 08:54 AM
Roy should be at around 90
Bosh and Amare should be +-1 at around 89 (so 88-90)

don't wanna comment on the Knicks (other than Amare) coz I'd be a bit biased... :)

dob_telescope
09-21-2010, 08:57 AM
Portland players seemed to be underrated to me...

goose15
09-21-2010, 09:03 AM
Gallinari should be higher than a 72:mad:

CB29
09-21-2010, 09:20 AM
bosh by himself is lower than 87 but with lebron and wade on the team he should be over 90....

Patman
09-21-2010, 09:25 AM
bosh by himself is lower than 87 but with lebron and wade on the team he should be over 90....


No he doesn't get better only because he maybe gets better looks and it is bad enough as it is, online you will probably encounter 90% Heat and it will be ugly to play against them.

Ragan
09-21-2010, 09:48 AM
Monta Ellis is overrated, Jrue Holiday is underrated, and if Durant is truly only an 88 that's absurd.

John Walls Era
09-21-2010, 09:50 AM
They didn't wanna make the Heat too good. Bosh should be about 89. Roy is injury prone, but he should be 92. 2nd best SG in the West...

YoungOne
09-21-2010, 09:50 AM
cavs will suck even more in this game ^^

John Walls Era
09-21-2010, 09:53 AM
Way to underrate Brandon Jennings.. or rather overrate Mo Williams.

KnicksorBust
09-21-2010, 09:59 AM
I'll remember this year as Gallo's last rating under 80. :)

IndyRealist
09-21-2010, 10:07 AM
Mona Ellis is way overrated.

SchyGuy11
09-21-2010, 10:12 AM
these ratings all seem a bit lower than usual

asandhu23
09-21-2010, 10:16 AM
Lol Monta is not overrated. wtf are you guys smoking? I am actually happy how they rated him.

T Mac is fine the way he is.

Bosh is overrated.

Azubuike is underrated.

A Randolph is underrated.

Ekpe Udoh is overrated.

Mo Williams is underrated.

thats about it. rest are all fine.

bbcmillionaire
09-21-2010, 10:26 AM
cavs will suck even more in this game ^^

Haha screw these teams, show the historic team rankings(bulls vs jazz everytime)lol

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-21-2010, 10:34 AM
Lol Monta is not overrated. wtf are you guys smoking? I am actually happy how they rated him.




Monta's rating should start with 7, cause Steph Curry's one is 80.

Badluck33
09-21-2010, 10:40 AM
Derrick Rose should be a 99.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-21-2010, 10:44 AM
Derrick Rose should be a 100.

fixed

ZooYork786
09-21-2010, 10:51 AM
brandon roy is kinda overrated. some players like carlos delfino and gallinari are definately a bit underrated,like barely in the 70's is def low for players that do significant work

THE WALL
09-21-2010, 10:52 AM
Ekpe Udoh 68
Greg Monroe 67

WTF?? Udoh is overrated...he's definitly NOT better than Monroe.

Knicks21
09-21-2010, 10:54 AM
Dont really think Anthony Parker is a 70. Maybe a 67-68

Knicks21
09-21-2010, 10:58 AM
If Im going to put one on my team, i would rather Aldridge than Jamison. I guess 2k is trying to make things fair.

Pierzynski4Prez
09-21-2010, 11:00 AM
I will not be playing this game online, as I don't want to face the heat every game. Although they do have easily the most players with a sub-60 rating, but who makes substitutions anyways.

Gators123
09-21-2010, 11:10 AM
Pistons don't have Chucky Atkins anymore and they forgot Terrico White.

Ultimateheatfan
09-21-2010, 11:13 AM
Notice how they made the rest of the Heat really bad. They have to even it out for online play. i cant wait for this game tho. This should win sports game of the year IMO.

xbrackattackx
09-21-2010, 11:16 AM
I will not be playing this game online, as I don't want to face the heat every game. Although they do have easily the most players with a sub-60 rating, but who makes substitutions anyways.

Yea it's lame, Got a "early copy" of the game and played unranked and played the heat 3 times in a roll. Haven't been on since and BTW the first time I played the heat I went with Golden State and lost by 2, Big Z hit a game winning 3 wtf?

Ethix11
09-21-2010, 11:20 AM
Nice thread

Gators123
09-21-2010, 11:25 AM
Noah's rating should be higher

Gators123
09-21-2010, 11:28 AM
They should take away Chris "Mr I have had a random back injury that caused me to miss 50 games" Wilcox 62 rating and give him a -5

Baller1
09-21-2010, 11:32 AM
I'm curious to see how they rate Durant and Melo.

mamba24
09-21-2010, 11:37 AM
Gallinari should be higher than a 72:mad:

all he can do is shoot 3's... 72 seems about right

FadeAwayLikeMJ
09-21-2010, 11:40 AM
im curious to see what Rondo gets.............................................. .....

AIsixersFK
09-21-2010, 11:42 AM
Iggy is not an 85. I'm sorry. The ratings seem to be the same as the updated ratings from the end of 2k10

Chronz
09-21-2010, 11:52 AM
Notice how they made the rest of the Heat really bad. They have to even it out for online play. i cant wait for this game tho. This should win sports game of the year IMO.
i dont think they did that at all. thats the rating u would expect

daleja424
09-21-2010, 11:57 AM
i dont think they did that at all. thats the rating u would expect

...I disagree...

I think that Mike Miller is being underrated, House is being underrated, and Joel Anthony is being REALLY underrated...

xbrackattackx
09-21-2010, 11:57 AM
Durant is like a 88 and Rondo is a 84 I think or 86.

Heater4life
09-21-2010, 12:12 PM
...I disagree...

I think that Mike Miller is being underrated, House is being underrated, and Joel Anthony is being REALLY underrated...

^This. They definately evened out roster by dropping some Heat rankings. Eddie House in the 50's??? With two top caliber players and a low post threat? you could at least give the guy a 65. Joel Anthony's rating doesnt bother me as much as the people whom are ahead of him. Nazr Mohammed? Really? If we had him at center right now id be nervous. and he's a 60 something. But its a game, balance is a part of it.

hvg
09-21-2010, 12:14 PM
There's no way Camby should be above Gasol, Oden and Noah at this point in his career.

Milos--CCCC
09-21-2010, 12:36 PM
Joe Johnson is so overrated....comon

Milos--CCCC
09-21-2010, 12:42 PM
but still these are the first ratings, during the season those numbers will change cause of updates and well see who lived up to the hype

John Walls Era
09-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Lol Monta is not overrated. wtf are you guys smoking? I am actually happy how they rated him.

T Mac is fine the way he is.

Bosh is overrated.

Azubuike is underrated.

A Randolph is underrated.

Ekpe Udoh is overrated.

Mo Williams is underrated.

thats about it. rest are all fine.

You're kidding me?

PrettyBoyJ
09-21-2010, 12:48 PM
Gallinari should be higher than a 72:mad:

x2

Milos--CCCC
09-21-2010, 12:50 PM
Yea it's lame, Got a "early copy" of the game and played unranked and played the heat 3 times in a roll. Haven't been on since and BTW the first time I played the heat I went with Golden State and lost by 2, Big Z hit a game winning 3 wtf?

:facepalm::clap: lmaoo thats 2K for ya bud !

Sadds The Gr8
09-21-2010, 12:57 PM
only thing i see wrong is iggy at 85....wtf?

EDIT: Monta is overrated as well as Joe Johnson. Monta and Iggy should be like 82 or 83, and Joe should be like 85 or 86

Sadds The Gr8
09-21-2010, 01:00 PM
I will not be playing this game online, as I don't want to face the heat every game. Although they do have easily the most players with a sub-60 rating, but who makes substitutions anyways.

just boycott those games...thats what im gonna do. i'm gonna back the **** right outta those games.

alencp3
09-21-2010, 01:05 PM
Ersan Ilyasova is WAY WAY WAY underated its not even funny:facepalm:

alencp3
09-21-2010, 01:06 PM
I think John Wall will be rated 82+

nyballa1991
09-21-2010, 01:07 PM
x2

no way .. im sick of knick homers makin us look bad.. gallo is fine at 73.. if anyone should be rated higher on that team its buike and randolph

MJ-BULLS
09-21-2010, 01:11 PM
wow. iggy and JJ are pretty damm high. :speechless:

Sixerlover
09-21-2010, 01:24 PM
if Jrue and Lou switched ratings, the Sixers ratings would be fine by me

Lakerfrk
09-21-2010, 01:30 PM
How in the world is Greg Oden rated higher than Joakim Noah??

PhillyFan001
09-21-2010, 01:34 PM
Jrue holiday is a bit underrated. Also it looks like the player ratings have gonde down for everyone since last year unless you are lebron or dwade

Sixerlover
09-21-2010, 01:38 PM
How in the world is Greg Oden rated higher than Joakim Noah??

Because when he was healthy he had one of the highest PER's in the league? Just a thought

1-800-STFU
09-21-2010, 02:04 PM
Monta is wayyyy overrated, Bogut a bit underrated. Other than that I dont have a TON of problems surprisingly

AIsixersFK
09-21-2010, 02:22 PM
Can't wait to see what Kobe's rating is so the Kobe vs LeBron debate will begin.....

Slimsim
09-21-2010, 03:07 PM
Why the **** is Thaddeus young a PF ?

knicks=love
09-21-2010, 03:11 PM
all he can do is shoot 3's... 72 seems about right

you're kidding me right? :facepalm:

smith&wesson
09-21-2010, 03:36 PM
there are way too many players listed in the 70's ... seems like they got lazy to me.

John Walls Era
09-21-2010, 03:37 PM
Why the **** is Thaddeus young a PF ?

Because he played some PF last year.

John Walls Era
09-21-2010, 03:38 PM
Where should Danillo be ranked? 72 seems about right.

kArSoN RyDaH
09-21-2010, 03:43 PM
whats KB24's rating?

2_Trill
09-21-2010, 03:49 PM
In my opinon, D Rose is underated and so is Noah, Jamal Crawford and Marvin Williams underrated, and eddie house is also underrated but the whole Detroit Pistons team is underrated and I think that I know why.... INJURIES!!

The teams that I will playing with so far..

Detroit Pistons
Miami Heat
LA Lakers

Raps08-09 Champ
09-21-2010, 03:53 PM
Where the Raptors anywhere?

ChiSox219
09-21-2010, 03:54 PM
Because when he was healthy he had one of the highest PER's in the league? Just a thought

True but Oden couldn't stay on the court even when he was healthy because he was perpetually in foul trouble. He was also a turnover machine.

ChiSox219
09-21-2010, 03:58 PM
BTW, if you guys have a PS3, I will almost certainly be updating player ratings and will share with whoever is interested.

uptownfan
09-21-2010, 04:01 PM
Ben Wallace's rating the same as Noah's?

footballer2369
09-21-2010, 04:04 PM
BTW, if you guys have a PS3, I will almost certainly be updating player ratings and will share with whoever is interested.

Ya, it'll be awesome. I can't wait to get those:

Durant-99
Lebron-61
Wade-59
Bosh-51
Rose-98
Noah-95
Varajao-95
Brook Lopez-62

Gators123
09-21-2010, 04:05 PM
Ya, it'll be awesome. I can't wait to get those:

Durant-99
Lebron-61
Wade-59
Bosh-51
Rose-98
Noah-95
Varajao-95
Brook Lopez-62

lol, I think he would give accurate ratings

danniboi168
09-21-2010, 04:10 PM
wow im lookin at the cavs roster, no one over 80 eek.

ChiSox219
09-21-2010, 04:11 PM
Ya, it'll be awesome. I can't wait to get those:

Durant-99
Lebron-61
Wade-59
Bosh-51
Rose-98
Noah-95
Varajao-95
Brook Lopez-62

You forgot Lamar Odom - 100.


But for real, I don't pay as much attention to the overall as the individual skills. So, even though I (and most others that know the game) think Varejao is a very good player, his overall might be relatively low because his impact comes mostly on the defense end.

TheDagger
09-21-2010, 05:51 PM
Overall ratings do not determine how good a player is. For instance Durant was far and away the best player on 2k10 and he was only an 88. Due to his size/mid range and 3PT ability the guy was literally unstoppable.

spreadeagle
09-21-2010, 05:55 PM
Demo kinda suckkkeeedddd

masalex1205
09-21-2010, 06:17 PM
Iguodala is way overrated

knicksfan42
09-21-2010, 07:52 PM
no way .. im sick of knick homers makin us look bad.. gallo is fine at 73.. if anyone should be rated higher on that team its buike and randolph

I agree at this point when looking at the entirety of the player rankings Gallo seems right at 72-74. We also can't forget that during the season they update the player ratings so hopefully Gallo's ratings will increase along with his play this season. Randolph stats pretty much match up with his rating, so at this point I don't believe he is underrated. I agree that Buike does deserve a higher rating, maybe its so low, because he was injured last season.

knicksfan42
09-21-2010, 07:54 PM
Ben Wallace is overrated.

TheGsw
09-21-2010, 08:01 PM
Flipflop Curry and Monta's ratings.
David Lee an 83? Bosh an 87? Minus well flipflop those too.

Chronz
09-21-2010, 08:08 PM
^This. They definately evened out roster by dropping some Heat rankings. Eddie House in the 50's??? With two top caliber players and a low post threat? you could at least give the guy a 65. Joel Anthony's rating doesnt bother me as much as the people whom are ahead of him. Nazr Mohammed? Really? If we had him at center right now id be nervous. and he's a 60 something. But its a game, balance is a part of it.
Look up NAZR production. How is Joel better than him? As for House maybe he plays better this year, but you cant base your ratings on hypotheticals only on trend analysis.


...I disagree...

I think that Mike Miller is being underrated, House is being underrated, and Joel Anthony is being REALLY underrated...
House had an offensive rtg below 100, a PER near single digits. How is he underrated?
If Miller is underrated its not by much, Joel hasnt done anything worth mentioning but hes atleast a 60.

SMH!
09-21-2010, 08:40 PM
2k must not like jennings shoes for him not to be in the game

Gators123
09-21-2010, 08:52 PM
2k must not like jennings shoes for him not to be in the game

Jennings is on there, look under "point guard" hes rated a 75, they just forgot to put his name with the Bucks roster.

godolphins
09-21-2010, 10:38 PM
The cavaliers really suck

Baller1
09-21-2010, 10:41 PM
Anyone know when the rest come out?

_KB24_
09-21-2010, 10:44 PM
All I care about is having the GOAT Mike James as 100 and the 2nd GOAT Jordan as 99 :cool:

reemy
09-21-2010, 10:57 PM
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/search/label/NBA%202K11%20Player%20Ratings

adidas2307
09-21-2010, 11:18 PM
Ratings don't really matter though if you're playing the game. The better 2K players know how to use players, rather than rely on high ratings.

Baller1
09-21-2010, 11:23 PM
Ratings don't really matter though if you're playing the game. The better 2K players know how to use players, rather than rely on high ratings.

You can "use" Rudy Gay as well as possible, I'll still **** you up with LeBron.

My point, your claim is the exact opposite of the truth. High ratings equals wins, for the most part.

MrfadeawayJB
09-21-2010, 11:24 PM
why does everyone suck on this game?

RollinDeep
09-22-2010, 12:38 AM
Ratings don't really matter though if you're playing the game. The better 2K players know how to use players, rather than rely on high ratings.

Agree.

It's more individual skills for me. Overall rating is just one measurement. Sometimes you need your big defensive center, or dead aim 3 point shooter. They might not be rated very high overall, but have certain skill sets that fit the team.

RollinDeep
09-22-2010, 12:41 AM
For those who have been mentioning the ratings measurement, for 2k10 they changed it up from previous games so that the gap from your superstars to everyone else would widen. That is why even though your Kobe, Brons, Wades, who were all 95+ before stayed the same, everyone else got lowered. So you no longer had say, Joe Johnson in the 90's.

Ovratd1up
09-22-2010, 01:01 AM
Monta Ellis 85 :laugh2:

davids22
09-22-2010, 01:17 AM
Seriously I hate 2k. I will be buying ELITE, I don't know about you guys.

Durant has already been confirmed as a 93 on ELITE, but an 88 on 2k? You serious?

Bogut is an 83? Dwight Howard was a 90 last year, so he has to at least be that this year. There is no way there's a 7 point margin of difference there.

Jennings a 75 with MO WILLIAMS? Curry is 80 and Jennings was 3rd in ROY voting. He should at least be a 78.

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 01:28 AM
Seriously I hate 2k. I will be buying ELITE, I don't know about you guys.

Durant has already been confirmed as a 93 on ELITE, but an 88 on 2k? You serious?

Bogut is an 83? Dwight Howard was a 90 last year, so he has to at least be that this year. There is no way there's a 7 point margin of difference there.

Jennings a 75 with MO WILLIAMS? Curry is 80 and Jennings was 3rd in ROY voting. He should at least be a 78.

go ahead and waste $75 on a fake piece of **** of a basketball game. most ppl will be playing 2k.

Chronz
09-22-2010, 01:31 AM
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/search/label/NBA%202K11%20Player%20Ratings

guy sux

Does he even post anywhere, he obviously puts in the time though

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 01:36 AM
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/search/label/NBA%202K11%20Player%20Ratings

i think his ratings are real accurate

tennisoscar1
09-22-2010, 01:51 AM
Holliday is a 70 and Jennings is a 75. WTF

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 02:08 AM
Holliday is a 70 and Jennings is a 75. WTF

u know the ratings will update (according to how well players play in real life) as the season goes on right?

Chronz
09-22-2010, 02:42 AM
u know the ratings will update (according to how well players play in real life) as the season goes on right?
What makes you think its according to their real life play? Didnt you just say you like rishidis roster update?

DerekRE_3
09-22-2010, 02:54 AM
I don't get the complaints about Jennings. 75 seems fair for him right now. Curry was a good amount better than him last year, and he's rated accordingly. What's great is the rosters are updated a good amount during the season, so a guy like Jennings could go up if he plays well.

Chronz
09-22-2010, 11:11 AM
I don't get the complaints about Jennings. 75 seems fair for him right now. Curry was a good amount better than him last year, and he's rated accordingly. What's great is the rosters are updated a good amount during the season, so a guy like Jennings could go up if he plays well.

2K Insider doesnt do a good job of updating. You know how the Bucks began to come on late in the year, he ended up rating the team below 70 both offensively and defensively, meanwhile a team like the Warriors was rated in the 80s.

2K Insider is a joke, Rishidi does a much better job than him and even Rishidi makes alot of mistakes. There really is only one solution, you do it yourself.

Mile High Champ
09-22-2010, 11:19 AM
These are terrible. CDR is way too high and Delfino only a 68. He had a great year for the bucks last season, he should be at least a 73. Also marc gasol at 77 is way too low.

Chronz
09-22-2010, 11:36 AM
These are terrible. CDR is way too high and Delfino only a 68. He had a great year for the bucks last season, he should be at least a 73. Also marc gasol at 77 is way too low.

This isnt 2k9 bro, a 73 rating is reserved for quality starters. Delfino had a great year by HIS standards, spread across the entire league he only scored 1.03Pts per possession, this from a guy who burned only 18% of his teams possessions. I understand hes a decent defender but Mbah Moute is a much better defender and hes not even a 73. There probably alot of underrated players but I dont think its by alot, cant really say without looking at the skill specific stats.

JordansBulls
09-22-2010, 12:08 PM
This isnt 2k9 bro, a 73 rating is reserved for quality starters. Delfino had a great year by HIS standards, spread across the entire league he only scored 1.03Pts per possession, this from a guy who burned only 18% of his teams possessions. I understand hes a decent defender but Mbah Moute is a much better defender and hes not even a 73. There probably alot of underrated players but I dont think its by alot, cant really say without looking at the skill specific stats.

What is the highest rating you would give in the game?

Chronz
09-22-2010, 12:16 PM
What is the highest rating you would give in the game?

99 of course (Legends like Wilt, created version of MJ)

What really sucks is when the legends are vastly underrated, I hate seeing when a current all-stars like say Joe Johnson are rated ahead of Hondo or Bill Walton.

First thing I do though is correct their body measurements. Like I always have to make KG-Duncan 7 footers, I have to make guys who exaggerate their height like Dauntey Jones. Make the 60's players an inch taller

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 12:28 PM
What makes you think its according to their real life play? Didnt you just say you like rishidis roster update?

well that's my and rishidi's opinion vs. 2k's opinion. in 2k they upgrade a players rating if he's playing well in real life, and they downgrade a players rating if he's playing bad. Like last year, Crash's rating was in the mid-high 70s and he ended up in the mid 80s because of his real life play. I agree with rishidi's rating NOW, but in the future when there's player improvements and injuries and stuff, things will change.

Chronz
09-22-2010, 12:55 PM
well that's my and rishidi's opinion vs. 2k's opinion. in 2k they upgrade a players rating if he's playing well in real life, and they downgrade a players rating if he's playing bad. Like last year, Crash's rating was in the mid-high 70s and he ended up in the mid 80s because of his real life play. I agree with rishidi's rating NOW, but in the future when there's player improvements and injuries and stuff, things will change.

I dont think were understanding eachother. Let me see if I got this straight, let me know if I made any mistakes.

Your saying you like the job 2K does as the season progresses yet Rishidi HATES the job they do, as do most Roster Editors. Its why he calls himself THE REAL 2K INSIDER, because the Insider 2K hires does a ****** job (Just look at the Bucks vs Warriors last year). So who are you siding with, do you like the job they (2K) does, or do you like the job Rishidi does? I dont see how you can like both when the 2 dont like eachother.

PHX2daDEATH
09-22-2010, 01:12 PM
i dont care about the rosters, a good player could play with the friggin Nets and beat somebody who casually plays, playing as the heat.. I Just want to know if 2k fixed all the glitches with player control..havent played since 2k8 but i have to have this game because of the Jordan Challenge

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 01:18 PM
I dont think were understanding eachother. Let me see if I got this straight, let me know if I made any mistakes.

Your saying you like the job 2K does as the season progresses yet Rishidi HATES the job they do, as do most Roster Editors. Its why he calls himself THE REAL 2K INSIDER, because the Insider 2K hires does a ****** job (Just look at the Bucks vs Warriors last year). So who are you siding with, do you like the job they (2K) does, or do you like the job Rishidi does? I dont see how you can like both when the 2 dont like eachother.

I see what you're sayin. I like the way Rishidi does his roster, but i was just saying to that other guy that there's no need to complain about Holliday's rating because it's bound to change as the season goes on. I think 2k's ratings are crap, but they will upgrade a player if he's playing really well.

Chronz
09-22-2010, 01:24 PM
Yea but it has to be really obvious for them to get it right. I wouldnt be surprised if some of the roster updates lessened the realistic experience.

Luckily I have a solution, Im taking what Rishidi does to the next level. I need some help though, Im going to amass a group of the most respected posters in the blogosphere, hopefully ChiSox is in.

Baller1
09-22-2010, 01:38 PM
Yea but it has to be really obvious for them to get it right. I wouldnt be surprised if some of the roster updates lessened the realistic experience.

Luckily I have a solution, Im taking what Rishidi does to the next level. I need some help though, Im going to amass a group of the most respected posters in the blogosphere, hopefully ChiSox is in.

What are you planning on doing?

pebloemer
09-22-2010, 01:42 PM
why does everyone suck on this game?

They don't suck, just the standards are adjusted. It takes a lot more the get a 90 rating in this game than in games past. I personally like that. Better parity between stars and superstars. Past games have had far too many players ranked in the 90's. If there are only 5-6 real superstars in the league, the ratings should reflect that. In my opinion ratings on past games were far too generous.

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 01:43 PM
Yea but it has to be really obvious for them to get it right. I wouldnt be surprised if some of the roster updates lessened the realistic experience.

Luckily I have a solution, Im taking what Rishidi does to the next level. I need some help though, Im going to amass a group of the most respected posters in the blogosphere, hopefully ChiSox is in.
what are u doin? makin ur own ratings? that'll take long as hell

CubsFanBudMan#1
09-22-2010, 01:46 PM
Not much love for Noah or many other Bulls, do we really over value are own team that much? ouch!

Chronz
09-22-2010, 01:59 PM
what are u doin? makin ur own ratings? that'll take long as hell
Your talking to a man whos recreated the entire 2003 season just so I could play with vintage Tmac. Ive created a roster consisting of the best Teams in every franchises history just so I could finally see who would win between the 95 Rockets and 96 Bulls.


What are you planning on doing?
I just said it, Im getting together a group of posters who have credibility behind their monikers. I would respect Rishidi if he was one of us, true fans of the game who not only play but talk/debate the sport.
But Ive never seen him post anywhere aside from 2K. He relies on stats and claims to contextualize the data but Ive never seen his work. Ive seen the end result and its not that impressive.

jbterrelle
09-22-2010, 02:03 PM
Can't believe Jonas Jerebko only got a 66 rating :facepalm:

Baller1
09-22-2010, 02:03 PM
Your talking to a man whos recreated the entire 2003 season just so I could play with vintage Tmac. Ive created a roster consisting of the best Teams in every franchises history just so I could finally see who would win between the 95 Rockets and 96 Bulls.


I just said it, Im getting together a group of posters who have credibility behind their monikers. I would respect Rishidi if he was one of us, true fans of the game who not only play but talk/debate the sport.
But Ive never seen him post anywhere aside from 2K. He relies on stats and claims to contextualize the data but Ive never seen his work. Ive seen the end result and its not that impressive.

Damn, sounds like you're really dedicated to the analysis and statistics of the game of basketball. I'd love to see you're resulting work once you've managed to complete your analysis.

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 02:30 PM
Your talking to a man whos recreated the entire 2003 season just so I could play with vintage Tmac. Ive created a roster consisting of the best Teams in every franchises history just so I could finally see who would win between the 95 Rockets and 96 Bulls.

lol

I get mad bored doing that stuff. I tried to update the roster on 2k10 to 2k11's and it was boring as hell. it was good at first but when it got down to the scrubs i was like **** this.

Chronz
09-22-2010, 02:40 PM
lol

I get mad bored doing that stuff. I tried to update the roster on 2k10 to 2k11's and it was boring as hell. it was good at first but when it got down to the scrubs i was like **** this.

Yea its definitely one of those chores you have to like doing to finish it. Editing Rosters takes me back to a time in my life when things were simple. I remember when NBA Live 96 (or 95) came out and they had just added the 2 new expansion teams RAPS/GRIZZ only all the players had default A default B type names, I would gather my basketball cards and started creating those players. I was about 10 at this point, probably wouldve started alot sooner but they didnt let you edit rosters till like 95 or something. So yea its something Ive been doing my entire life as a fan. I find it enhances your understanding of the players and their place within the league.

SteveNash
09-22-2010, 03:09 PM
You can't really go by a players rating to determine the best players. The only stats that really matter in the game are size, athleticism ratings and 3 point shot.

ChiSox219
09-22-2010, 03:11 PM
You can't really go by a players rating to determine the best players. The only stats that really matter in the game are size, athleticism ratings and 3 point shot.

Not true

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 03:14 PM
Yea its definitely one of those chores you have to like doing to finish it. Editing Rosters takes me back to a time in my life when things were simple. I remember when NBA Live 96 (or 95) came out and they had just added the 2 new expansion teams RAPS/GRIZZ only all the players had default A default B type names, I would gather my basketball cards and started creating those players. I was about 10 at this point, probably wouldve started alot sooner but they didnt let you edit rosters till like 95 or something. So yea its something Ive been doing my entire life as a fan. I find it enhances your understanding of the players and their place within the league.

yea i see what u mean. i remember back when i was younger i had to do that same **** with Live 04. my parents wouldn't buy me new games (unless for bday and xmas) so i was forced to update the the rosters by myself. i did the same thing with madden 04. it's always fun to do the star players, and even the decent guys, but when it comes down to the scrubs i lose interest. also when a team's roster is too full or doesn't have enough players, it frustrates me as well...

oO ShowTime Oo
09-22-2010, 03:16 PM
People complain about ratings, its about skills

pebloemer
09-22-2010, 03:17 PM
You can't really go by a players rating to determine the best players. The only stats that really matter in the game are size, athleticism ratings and 3 point shot.

When I play, I ensure that isn't so. Strength, rebounding, midrange, close range, daw, oaw, passing, speed, steal, block, etc etc.

Every rating comes into account in my games. If all you do is drive for dunks or shoot three's you are missing a lot of the enjoyment a basketball game can offer. I change my settings around to finish with an average score of 90-100, involve all aspects that account for on court play, and the way I play needs to naturally evolve into a game that more closely resembles reality. It is much more fun - just takes time.

SteveNash
09-22-2010, 03:21 PM
Not true

On 2k10 it's definitely true.

oO ShowTime Oo
09-22-2010, 03:27 PM
Mark my words, ,,, I will be one of the greatest

Stunner
09-22-2010, 03:28 PM
NBA 2K11 will fight with NFL 2K5 as the best sports game they ever made!

ChiSox219
09-22-2010, 03:28 PM
When I play, I ensure that isn't so. Strength, rebounding, midrange, close range, daw, oaw, passing, speed, steal, block, etc etc.

Every rating comes into account in my games. If all you do is drive for dunks or shoot three's you are missing a lot of the enjoyment a basketball game can offer. I change my settings around to finish with an average score of 90-100, involve all aspects that account for on court play, and the way I play needs to naturally evolve into a game that more closely resembles reality. It is much more fun - just takes time.

Good stuff :clap:

Stunner
09-22-2010, 03:29 PM
See What I Mean!!!!!!!!

http://community.2ksports.com/community/insights/


:speechless:

Chronz
09-22-2010, 03:36 PM
You can't really go by a players rating to determine the best players. The only stats that really matter in the game are size, athleticism ratings and 3 point shot.

Why cuz of Yao? Cuz of cheezers? Personally I feel you can stop any of them but if you really wanted to, you could subjectively alter those stats to account for the fact that hes so tall or athletic. You give someone **** handles and being tall is negated. You can make the game as sim as possible but it all begins with putting everyone on equal footing.

What do you think of rating a players 3pt shooting primarily by his set shooting data. Like Kobe becomes a 40% 3PT shooter in this situation.

pebloemer
09-22-2010, 03:54 PM
Good stuff :clap:

:). It is much more fun that way. It doesn't take long to learn the holes in the AI, and dominate the computer by exploiting that. Likewise, NBA games growing up always involved ridiculously high steals numbers, close range baskets and 3pt baskets. Raising the difficulty of contested shots, decreasing the affectiveness of steals (to the point where the majority of NBA'ers get called for reaching in 9 times for everyone one steal they get), increasing blocks, midrange affectiveness, etc etc and the player naturally has to adjust for the simplicity involved in the game. And all this is still on PS2 console, so I can only imagine PS3/Xbox360 has improved AI and ability to adjust gameplay. Can someone verify this last part? I am curious. I feel sorry for people who haven't figured this out yet.

Jarvo
09-22-2010, 04:03 PM
Noah a 74??? Nah Im not really feeling the ratings, the heat gonna be unstoppable in this game -____-

Silent
09-22-2010, 04:16 PM
See What I Mean!!!!!!!!

http://community.2ksports.com/community/insights/


:speechless:

from reading all of that it really seems they fixed alot of **** this game is gonna be alot of fun hopefully the bulls or thunder draft me and don't trade me lol cant wait till oct 5

if i get drafted by the heat i will request a trade right of the bat

JordansBulls
09-22-2010, 04:30 PM
Not true

You get a guy who can hit the 3 and you dominant. You get a guy who can get to the rim and you dominant and if you get a big man with height you dominant. For instance, that is why it is tough in it to dominant with Boozer at PF.

SteveNash
09-22-2010, 08:07 PM
Why cuz of Yao? Cuz of cheezers? Personally I feel you can stop any of them but if you really wanted to, you could subjectively alter those stats to account for the fact that hes so tall or athletic. You give someone **** handles and being tall is negated. You can make the game as sim as possible but it all begins with putting everyone on equal footing.

What do you think of rating a players 3pt shooting primarily by his set shooting data. Like Kobe becomes a 40% 3PT shooter in this situation.

The Yao/Deke combo from the past was really deadly. You sure could overcome it, but it wasn't like it was easy, and it wasn't like anything resembling a actual game.

Messing with stats and sliders are a chore to tune it just right. You can download them, but I haven't really found in quality ones, especially for 2k10.

The players ratings should be greatly expanded for everything. Right now, they're at a below Hollinger level.

Rashidi
09-22-2010, 08:37 PM
Your talking to a man whos recreated the entire 2003 season just so I could play with vintage Tmac. Ive created a roster consisting of the best Teams in every franchises history just so I could finally see who would win between the 95 Rockets and 96 Bulls.


I just said it, Im getting together a group of posters who have credibility behind their monikers. I would respect Rishidi if he was one of us, true fans of the game who not only play but talk/debate the sport.
But Ive never seen him post anywhere aside from 2K. He relies on stats and claims to contextualize the data but Ive never seen his work. Ive seen the end result and its not that impressive.

I just need to point out that I read this entire topic... it's rAshidi.

Anyway, there are more forums than this one in the world. Most know me from GameFAQs, which is where my work originated in 2003 (ironically, the year you edited to re-create). ******, Hoopshype, basketballboards.net (now defunct, I believe absorbed by RGM). I stopped posting on forums when I started blogging 2 years ago, because having one set location to find me at makes things a heck of a lot easier than posting all over the place.

R-e-a-l-g-m is a banned word?

Gators123
09-22-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm lost...Who is Rashidi?

*Silver&Black*
09-22-2010, 09:02 PM
That's weird. These ratings for a video game have Horford 2nd so far only behind Bogut. I thought these lovely non-homer forums had Noah and M. Gasol as better centers. Which to believe? Hmmmm. The choices.

avrpatsfan
09-22-2010, 09:12 PM
im curious to see what Rondo gets.............................................. .....
I'm guessing around 90 give or take 1 or 2.

Sadds The Gr8
09-22-2010, 09:18 PM
I'm lost...Who is Rashidi?

some guy that hates the 2k roster ratings and updates so he makes his own. chronz knows more about him than i do...he'll give a better explaination if he comes back this thread.

LETSGONETS
09-22-2010, 09:41 PM
evan turner an 80 r u kidding? rudy gay only 79 and brandon jennings only 75 and curry 80? turner hasnt set foot on nba court yet but he is higher the established players makes no sense

Silent
09-22-2010, 09:43 PM
i guess i now why some of the younger players have ****** ratings they probaly have really high potential

NYYCowboys
09-22-2010, 09:54 PM
I don't mean to be a homer but this is the 3rd year in a row Danilo Gallinari got a bad rating. He had the same exact rating, I think, to start off the year last year, and he vastly improved last year. I think he should at least be in the mid 70s.

NYYCowboys
09-22-2010, 09:54 PM
evan turner an 80 r u kidding? rudy gay only 79 and brandon jennings only 75 and curry 80? turner hasnt set foot on nba court yet but he is higher the established players makes no sense

Yup completely agree such b.s.

Stunner
09-22-2010, 09:57 PM
I just need to point out that I read this entire topic... it's rAshidi.

Anyway, there are more forums than this one in the world. Most know me from GameFAQs, which is where my work originated in 2003 (ironically, the year you edited to re-create). ******, Hoopshype, basketballboards.net (now defunct, I believe absorbed by RGM). I stopped posting on forums when I started blogging 2 years ago, because having one set location to find me at makes things a heck of a lot easier than posting all over the place.

R-e-a-l-g-m is a banned word?

Damn yo *** on here too lol

nyballa1991
09-22-2010, 09:59 PM
i always had this problem with the association mode.. after like 8-10 years stats severely drop .. my leagues leading scorer would average like 23 points a game... is there a way to fix that?

path2zion
09-22-2010, 10:00 PM
Joakim a 74, 3 points higher than big Z, right... otherwise, for the bulls, its about right.

JordansBulls
09-23-2010, 12:54 PM
some guy that hates the 2k roster ratings and updates so he makes his own. chronz knows more about him than i do...he'll give a better explaination if he comes back this thread.

only problem with this is that he will never get the updates unless he redoes the rosters every time.

JordansBulls
09-23-2010, 01:07 PM
http://www.operationsports.com/feature.php?id=1138



Top 5 PG:
Wade 97 (listed as pg on game starting 5)
Paul 95
Williams 92
Rondo 87
Rose/Nash 85

Top 5 SG:
Bryant 97
Johnson/Roy 88
Jackson/Ellis 84

Top 5 SF:
James 97
Melo 93
Durant 91
Iguodala 85
Wallace 84

Top 5 PF:
Duncan 90
Gasol 89
Bosh 87
Boozer 85
Smith/Dirk 83

Top 5 C:
Howard 88
Amare 86
Yao 83
Jefferson 80
Bogut 82

pebloemer
09-23-2010, 01:08 PM
evan turner an 80 r u kidding? rudy gay only 79 and brandon jennings only 75 and curry 80? turner hasnt set foot on nba court yet but he is higher the established players makes no sense

The rating listed in thread is 76, where did you get 80 from?

JordansBulls
09-23-2010, 01:37 PM
Been updated.

Chronz
09-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I just need to point out that I read this entire topic... it's rAshidi.

Anyway, there are more forums than this one in the world. Most know me from GameFAQs, which is where my work originated in 2003 (ironically, the year you edited to re-create). ******, Hoopshype, basketballboards.net (now defunct, I believe absorbed by RGM). I stopped posting on forums when I started blogging 2 years ago, because having one set location to find me at makes things a heck of a lot easier than posting all over the place.

R-e-a-l-g-m is a banned word?
Rashidi
Trust me, Im well aware of the # of forums on the internet having joined most of the top ones. Its a shame you stopped posting, having my own site wont deter me from continuing the debating game. Its really the best way to maintain a level of credibility among your peers. Certainly you can understand why Ive questioned you given that Ive never seen you actually debate the sport your attempting to rate.

Sadds The Gr8
09-23-2010, 01:59 PM
only problem with this is that he will never get the updates unless he redoes the rosters every time.

yea that probably takes long as hell

Chronz
09-23-2010, 02:45 PM
only problem with this is that he will never get the updates unless he redoes the rosters every time.
Its still better than the alternative JB, thats the point.

Mplsman
09-23-2010, 02:51 PM
melos better than durant?! what a joke.

disgruntledbull
09-23-2010, 02:52 PM
john wall an 81. thats absurd

Stunner
09-23-2010, 02:53 PM
The roster ratings arent finish Ronnie said these were locked on Aug 20. So we wont knw the final ratings until the game comes out so Durant will have a better rating then Melo, because he said a 91 for KD is too low.

greg_ory_2005
09-23-2010, 02:54 PM
Why is Dirk always rated so low. Booz is 85, Amare is 86, Bosh is 87, and Dirk is only 83. :pity:

ShaqShoes
09-23-2010, 02:55 PM
What does Howard have to do to get a 90? The best center in the league can't get a better rating than an 88??

Rashidi
09-23-2010, 03:13 PM
This list, with differences from final 2K10 rating
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-starting.html

Rego247
09-23-2010, 03:13 PM
josh smith is not on dirks level, dirk shouldnt be rated that low.

also barbosa starting over demar? raps fans arent gonna be to happy about that. lol.

Rashidi
09-23-2010, 03:16 PM
Rashidi
Trust me, Im well aware of the # of forums on the internet having joined most of the top ones. Its a shame you stopped posting, having my own site wont deter me from continuing the debating game. Its really the best way to maintain a level of credibility among your peers. Certainly you can understand why Ive questioned you given that Ive never seen you actually debate the sport your attempting to rate.

Posting on forums doesn't exactly give one credibility, since anybody can do it.

Having a ton of opinions doesn't make one's opinions the best.

Gators123
09-23-2010, 03:18 PM
This list, with differences from final 2K10 rating
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-starting.html

Thanks

ShaqShoes
09-23-2010, 03:19 PM
This list, with differences from final 2K10 rating
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-starting.html

Interesting to see Kleiza rated a 55...even after he impressed at FIBA. What would you rate him?

Demon11
09-23-2010, 03:30 PM
I'm sorry, but Beno Udrih at 66? He had one of his greatest years last year, shot the ball like a beast. Should be in the 70s.

Stunner
09-23-2010, 03:33 PM
The roster ratings arent finish Ronnie said these were locked on Aug 20. So we wont knw the final ratings until the game comes out so Durant will have a better rating then Melo, because he said a 91 for KD is too low.

pebloemer
09-23-2010, 03:36 PM
Dirk seems quite low.

Antipod
09-23-2010, 03:37 PM
Melo over Durant and Timmy getting 90 points - those arr my main objections.

DoJoTheSlasher
09-23-2010, 04:01 PM
......

Dirk should be about a 92-93 while Bosh should be an 85-86......

Ollie Tabooger
09-23-2010, 04:05 PM
wow about Dirk. Jeez.

Mplsman
09-23-2010, 04:09 PM
Why is Dirk always rated so low. Booz is 85, Amare is 86, Bosh is 87, and Dirk is only 83. :pity:

For real.

xxplayerxx23
09-23-2010, 04:10 PM
about gallo he shuld be around a 75 77 but he will be during the season,,,,,,, Jennings i think should be higher, ANd noah i hate the guy but shuld be an 80 I think amare should be higher. Heat is going to be un stopable./......... But im up to the chanlange anybody wanna play me in 2k11 when it comes out My gamer tag is Xxplayerxx23 ON xbox 360 :):p:clap:

Mplsman
09-23-2010, 04:11 PM
The roster ratings arent finish Ronnie said these were locked on Aug 20. So we wont knw the final ratings until the game comes out so Durant will have a better rating then Melo, because he said a 91 for KD is too low.

Durant should've been a lock for the 3rd best player in the game before the summer even started.

Rashidi
09-23-2010, 04:12 PM
The roster ratings arent finish Ronnie said these were locked on Aug 20. So we wont knw the final ratings until the game comes out so Durant will have a better rating then Melo, because he said a 91 for KD is too low.

Ronnie is a spin-master, of course he's going to say that. There were crap ratings last year and they fixed TWO of them at launch: Rodney Stuckey and some other dude. The only guys I see them fixing up are Kleiza and MAYBE Durant.

Rashidi
09-23-2010, 04:13 PM
......

Dirk should be about a 92-93 while Bosh should be an 85-86......

If only things like rebounding and defense didn't matter.

hvg
09-23-2010, 04:17 PM
Dirk Nowitzki is seriously underrated. Should be about the same level as Pau.

Rashidi
09-23-2010, 04:38 PM
All compiled 2K11 ratings, broken down by team and position.
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-updated.html

Chronz
09-23-2010, 05:02 PM
Posting on forums doesn't exactly give one credibility, since anybody can do it.

Having a ton of opinions doesn't make one's opinions the best.
I dont know what I said that would lead you to believe simply posting is what would lend credence to ones words. To me credibility is something that is bestowed upon you by your peers. Im sure youve accomplished this in the boards youve frequented, and the forum you created yourself from years of tortuous effort and putting your work on display for all to critique. We arent very different, only replace 2k with Basketball and you have my peer group.

So no posting doesnt give one credibility, but the content Ive posted over the years has earned me some semblance of credibility. From the start of this hobby Ive won awards for my debating methods, and have been recognized as such in other boards. Sure I have my detractors, just as you do. My only point was wondering if you exposed your work and claims beyond your realm, beyond the video game bloggers and onto fans of the GAME itself.

Raps08-09 Champ
09-23-2010, 05:06 PM
How is Dirk only an 83?

ShaqShoes
09-23-2010, 05:08 PM
All compiled 2K11 ratings, broken down by team and position.
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-updated.html

Do you get paid to do this?

blacknell
09-23-2010, 05:09 PM
DIrk is 83 thats funny he is the best PF in the NBA

Chronz
09-23-2010, 05:12 PM
How is Dirk only an 83?

Dirk is a hard player to boost in 2K, I remember trying to recreate his MVP season and you couldnt top him out above 90 without seriously reaching on some facets of his game that are perceived as weaknesses (mostly defensively).

That said, 83 is definitely too low for a player of his caliber.

Kashmir13579
09-23-2010, 05:13 PM
the warriors are gonna be nasty.

SteveNash
09-23-2010, 05:22 PM
How is Dirk only an 83?

Because he plays like a guard more than a PF.

pd1dish
09-23-2010, 05:29 PM
If Im going to put one on my team, i would rather Aldridge than Jamison. I guess 2k is trying to make things fair.

all the new sports games seem to be doing that. they are making everyone more even. that way the superstars of the league are MUCH better than everyone else. like in nhl, it seems like all the teams are in the 80's overall and all the players range between 75 and 90 (with exception to the top 5 players in the league). ncaa basketball was the same way. all the dominant players werent even rated that high. a lot were around high 80's and bad players were no worse than 77 or 78. now theyre doing it with nba.

Pharoe18
09-23-2010, 05:37 PM
melo above durant? fail

WITZ
09-23-2010, 05:44 PM
Wade at pg is laughable let alone being the top one.

Shahrose
09-23-2010, 05:58 PM
Wade should be 96, Kobe should be 98, howard should be a 94, and dirk should be a 89

Angel2Maverick
09-23-2010, 07:09 PM
Dirk 83 wow
This is EXACTLY why I don't buy 2k

NBA-GMaster
09-23-2010, 08:18 PM
:cry: Yao Ming = 83

showtym24
09-23-2010, 08:34 PM
Duncan hasnt be the best PF for a while now.

Stunner
09-23-2010, 09:09 PM
Ronnie is a spin-master, of course he's going to say that. There were crap ratings last year and they fixed TWO of them at launch: Rodney Stuckey and some other dude. The only guys I see them fixing up are Kleiza and MAYBE Durant.

I mean those werent the final ratings to begin with Kobe and Lebron were rated in the 100 one time so yeah i believe there will be different rating changes for the retail release. There is always a roster updated when the game is release.

VinceCarter
09-23-2010, 09:10 PM
http://www.operationsports.com/feature.php?id=1138

Brook Lopez is an 81 he should be on there instead of Al Jeff.

And Devin Harris is a 78? :eyebrow: Sounds a little low.

Stunner
09-23-2010, 09:10 PM
Do you get paid to do this?

No lol

Stunner
09-23-2010, 09:12 PM
Dirk 83 wow
This is EXACTLY why I don't buy 2k

Go buy elite then and waste your money on a shity game! Everyone has there own game and can do whatever u want too it. Ratings shouldnt be the reason why u dont by a game. Gameplay and other factors should be the reason. U can always change the ratings to what u think is best.

Bruno
09-23-2010, 09:15 PM
Dirk and KD are ranked a little low, Dirk especially. I mean, Iggy, ranked higher than Dirk?

Kakaroach
09-23-2010, 09:17 PM
lol @ Paul over Williams. Nice to see Big Al as a top 5 center but Bogut got horrendously under-rated.

Sadds The Gr8
09-23-2010, 09:19 PM
go buy elite then and waste your money on a shity game! Everyone has there own game and can do whatever u want too it. Ratings shouldnt be the reason why u dont by a game. Gameplay and other factors should be the reason. U can always change the ratings to what u think is best.
+1

John Walls Era
09-23-2010, 09:23 PM
Dirk 83 wow
This is EXACTLY why I don't buy 2k

Players have defensive stats....

John Walls Era
09-23-2010, 09:24 PM
Dirk and KD are ranked a little low, Dirk especially. I mean, Iggy, ranked higher than Dirk?

Different positions. I bet if you made Dirk a SF, his rating will go up higher.

Sadds The Gr8
09-23-2010, 09:25 PM
......

Dirk should be about a 92-93 while Bosh should be an 85-86......


Dirk Nowitzki is seriously underrated. Should be about the same level as Pau.


DIrk is 83 thats funny he is the best PF in the NBA

when u think about it his rating is pretty low but what else are u gonna raise on him seeing as his mid-range rating is high, his post rating is high, his 3pt rating is high, and his rebounding is decent. dirk is great at a couple things, and mediocre/average at most things...that's why he's 83. if u tried to adjust his ratings u'd see that it's hard to raise his overall unless u really boost his specialties, like Chronz said.

Chronz
09-23-2010, 09:38 PM
No lol

Yea but the guy who does isnt any better

Stunner
09-23-2010, 09:41 PM
Yea but the guy who does isnt any better

True but still i could care less as long as the Franchise stats are accurate im good.

avrpatsfan
09-23-2010, 09:43 PM
Rondo at 87? A little underrated but I'll take it. Not bad ratings.

WadeKobe
09-23-2010, 09:43 PM
......

Dirk should be about a 92-93 while Bosh should be an 85-86......

:facepalm:

Stunner
09-23-2010, 09:45 PM
Rondo at 87? A little underrated but I'll take it. Not bad ratings.

He's a 92 now

netsgiantsyanks
09-23-2010, 10:44 PM
Brook Lopez is an 81 he should be on there instead of Al Jeff.

And Devin Harris is a 78? :eyebrow: Sounds a little low.

wasnt he a 81 last year??

Angel2Maverick
09-23-2010, 11:10 PM
Go buy elite then and waste your money on a shity game! Everyone has there own game and can do whatever u want too it. Ratings shouldnt be the reason why u dont by a game. Gameplay and other factors should be the reason. U can always change the ratings to what u think is best.

Dont be quick to judge, I rather not waste my money at all on either games.
If you want to waste money on buying a game that has Michael Jordan and updated rosters, so be it. I dont care for either games though, Elite is just horrible :puke: and Nba 2k11 is still more or less the same game as last year.

ClayMatthews
09-23-2010, 11:17 PM
No love for the second best center in the east. Bogut should be higher.

ClayMatthews
09-23-2010, 11:23 PM
These ratings are a joke. How are you gonna rate all these rookies higher than guys that have already been in the league for at least a year and have proven they can take their game to the next level. John Wall is not an 81...

Stunner
09-23-2010, 11:44 PM
Dont be quick to judge, I rather not waste my money at all on either games.
If you want to waste money on buying a game that has Michael Jordan and updated rosters, so be it. I dont care for either games though, Elite is just horrible :puke: and Nba 2k11 is still more or less the same game as last year.

If u havent followed the game and how much improved they have came since last year. I can see u dont knw what u are talking about because i bet my life that 2K11 is far and way better than 2k10. This will be the best Basketball game ever made, go for game of the year, and will be on of 2k's best games made along with NFL 2K5.

Demon11
09-23-2010, 11:48 PM
If u havent followed the game and how much improved they have came since last year. I can see u dont knw what u are talking about because i bet my life that 2K11 is far and way better than 2k10. This will be the best Basketball game ever made, go for game of the year, and will be on of 2k's best games made along with NFL 2K5.

x2

read up on it, they are squeezing so much into this game im suprised it doesn't come with 2 discs.

MELO 15
09-23-2010, 11:50 PM
melo above durant? fail

I disagree, 2k11 got it right, its about time

Rashidi
09-24-2010, 12:02 AM
My only point was wondering if you exposed your work and claims beyond yur realm, beyond the video game bloggers and onto fans of the GAME itself.

Yes. And let's be clear - there are NUMEROUS video game fans who are ALSO fans of the game.

Sadds The Gr8
09-24-2010, 12:08 AM
If u havent followed the game and how much improved they have came since last year. I can see u dont knw what u are talking about because i bet my life that 2K11 is far and way better than 2k10. This will be the best Basketball game ever made, go for game of the year, and will be on of 2k's best games made along with NFL 2K5.

x3.

I can't take people who say "this game is the same as 2k10" seriously...that means they haven't read **** about the new features, or played the demo, they just talk outta their ***...

Angel2Maverick
09-24-2010, 12:26 AM
If u havent followed the game and how much improved they have came since last year. I can see u dont knw what u are talking about because i bet my life that 2K11 is far and way better than 2k10. This will be the best Basketball game ever made, go for game of the year, and will be on of 2k's best games made along with NFL 2K5.

I know the little things that 2k11 has improved, for example players actually use the screen the right way to create space, the defense is better, the set plays actually work from what I see, the players have to gain control of the ball before they start their movement if the ball is passed inaccurately, something about the graphics is better but I wouldn't know because for some reason all the 2k games look ugly on my screen, its hard to explain. Now if this game gets a 8.8 rating or higher I'll definately take a look at it.

Sadds The Gr8
09-24-2010, 12:34 AM
http://twitter.com/bigdaddywookie/status/25356477314

Javale Mcgee is mad at his 2k rating lol

JordansBulls
09-24-2010, 01:06 AM
I disagree, 2k11 got it right, its about time

:eyebrow:

Law25
09-24-2010, 01:10 AM
Wade should be 97, Kobe should be 98, howard should be a 94, and dirk should be a 89, Lebron should be 96

This.

VinceCarter
09-24-2010, 01:24 AM
Posting on forums doesn't exactly give one credibility, since anybody can do it.

Having a ton of opinions doesn't make one's opinions the best.

Rashidi???

The Rashidi who made the MVP Baseball 2005 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/925211-mvp-baseball-2005/faqs) player updates that I always used? :speechless::clap:

Stunner
09-24-2010, 01:26 AM
I know the little things that 2k11 has improved, for example players actually use the screen the right way to create space, the defense is better, the set plays actually work from what I see, the players have to gain control of the ball before they start their movement if the ball is passed inaccurately, something about the graphics is better but I wouldn't know because for some reason all the 2k games look ugly on my screen, its hard to explain. Now if this game gets a 8.8 rating or higher I'll definately take a look at it.

lol thats all u knw theres way more than that bro.

ChiSox219
09-24-2010, 01:52 AM
Durant and Dwight are too low, they both possess multiple high level skills and excellent athleticism.

SugeKnight
09-24-2010, 01:55 AM
Bogut/Dirk/granger got jipped

Giraffes Rule
09-24-2010, 02:13 AM
John Wall higher rated than Tony Parker and Steph Curry? That's just not right.

Chronz
09-24-2010, 02:33 AM
Yes. And let's be clear - there are NUMEROUS video game fans who are ALSO fans of the game.
Well that should go without saying considering its a basketball game, but we're talking about 2 extremely specialized sectors. One is for video games, the other for SERIOUS analysis and debate. When I look to challenge my basketball competence I dont go to gamefaqs.com.

save the knicks
09-24-2010, 10:23 AM
Overall ratings in this game are useless

its all about the category ratings

JordansBulls
09-24-2010, 06:29 PM
I don't understand how Dwight doesn't get a 90 rating?

coolmo
09-24-2010, 11:16 PM
I don't understand how Dwight doesn't get a 90 rating?

because he was NBA LIVE 10 model. j/k

JordansBulls
09-25-2010, 12:23 AM
because he was NBA LIVE 10 model. j/k

:confused:

Gators123
09-25-2010, 12:28 AM
:confused:

EA Sports and 2K sports are rivals. Dwight was on the cover of NBA Live 2010 :eyebrow:

HouRealCoach
09-25-2010, 12:58 AM
SO now Boozer has a better rating than KG... smh

marvILLous
09-25-2010, 01:11 AM
Overall ratings in this game are useless

its all about the category ratings

truth

JordansBulls
09-25-2010, 03:36 PM
EA Sports and 2K sports are rivals. Dwight was on the cover of NBA Live 2010 :eyebrow:

gotcha

oO ShowTime Oo
09-25-2010, 06:26 PM
Rating is only a number

IHeartNY
09-25-2010, 06:50 PM
NBA Elite 11 is way better ... /thread






;)

LakersA's49ers
09-25-2010, 07:02 PM
what about steph curry? and monta really is overrated

blake20696
09-26-2010, 12:18 AM
anthony morrow only 65!!!!

JordansBulls
09-26-2010, 01:44 AM
http://www.operationsports.com/mediaview.php?id=699&page=9#comment

JordansBulls
09-26-2010, 01:45 AM
Ratings for teams.

http://www.operationsports.com/mediaview.php?id=699&page=2#comment

http://www.operationsports.com/mediaview.php?id=699#comment


http://media.operationsports.com/shots/1285469834-media.jpg

JordansBulls
09-26-2010, 09:40 AM
85-86 BULLS
93 - Michael Jordan (SG)
80 - George Gervin (SF)
79 - Orlando Woolridge (SF)
75 - Charles Oakley (PF)
69 - John Paxson (PG)
68 - Kyle Macy (PG)
65 - Dave Corzine (C)

85-86 CELTICS
96 - Larry Bird (SF)
85 - Robert Parish (C)
85 - Kevin McHale (PF)
81 - Dennis Johnson (PG)
74 - Danny Ainge (SG)

89-90 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
87 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 - Horace Grant (PF)
72 - John Paxson (PG)
71 - Bill Cartwright (C)
69 - Craig Hodges (SG)

89-90 HAWKS
90 - Dominique Wilkins (SF)
82 - Moses Malone (C)
80 - Doc Rivers (PG)
76 - Kevin Willis (PF)
74 - Spud Webb (PG)
66 - Cliff Levingston (PF)

89-90 CAVALIERS
85 - Mark Price (PG)
82 - Brad Daugherty (C)
79 - Larry Nance (SF)
76 - Craig Ehlo (SG)
74 - John Williams (PF)
71 - Steve Kerr (PG)

89-90 PISTONS
90 - Isiah Thomas (PG)
87 - Joe Dumars (SG)
83 - Bill Laimbeer (PF)
77 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
70 - James Edwards (C)

90-91 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
87 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 - Horace Grant (PF)
72 - John Paxson (PG)
71 - Bill Cartwright (C)
69 - Craig Hodges (SG)

90-91 LAKERS
92 - Magic Johnson (PG)
86 - James Worthy (SF)
79 - Byron Scott (SG)
75 - Vlade Divac (C)
74 - Sam Perkins (C)

91-92 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
90 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
82 - Horace Grant (PF)
72 - John Paxson (PG)
70 - B.J. Armstrong (PG)
68 - Will Perdue (C)

91-92 BLAZERS
93 - Clyde Drexler (SG)
84 - Terry Porter (PG)
79 - Jerome Kersey (SF)
77 - Clifford Robinson (PF)
77 - Buck Williams (PF)
73 - Danny Ainge (SG)

94-95 BULLS
97 - Michael Jordan (SG)
92 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
76 - Ron Harper (SG)
75 - B.J. Armstrong (PG)
70 - Will Perdue (C)
69 - Toni Kukoc (PF)

94-95 KNICKS
89 - Patrick Ewing (C)
80 - Charles Oakley (PF)
80 - John Starks (SG)
75 - Anthony Mason (PF)
73 - Derek Harper (PG)

95-96 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
92 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
81 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
73 - Ron Harper (PG)
71 - Steve Kerr (PG)
70 - Toni Kukoc (PF)

95-96 SONICS
91 - Gary Payton (PG)
89 - Shawn Kemp (PF)
80 - Hersey Hawkins (SG)
79 - Detlef Schrempf (SF)
72 - Sam Perkins (C)

96-97 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
92 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
81 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
73 - Ron Harper (PG)
72 - Toni Kukoc (PF)
71 - Steve Kerr (PG)

96-97 JAZZ
90 - Karl Malone (PF) (too low to me)
88 - John Stockton (PG)
80 - Jeff Hornacek (SG)
72 - Bryon Russell (SF)
64 - Adam Keefe (SF)

97-98 BULLS
99 - Michael Jordan (SG)
90 - Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 - Dennis Rodman (PF)
73 - Toni Kukoc (PF)
72 - Ron Harper (PG)
70 - Luc Longley (C)

97-98 JAZZ
90 - Karl Malone (PF) (too low to me)
88 - John Stockton (PG)
80 - Jeff Hornacek (SG)
72 - Bryon Russell (SF)
64 - Adam Keefe (SF)


I don't understand how Magic can only be a 92 and Bird 96 in 1986. They should be a 97 at least those years.
And Malone only a 90???

fadedmario
09-26-2010, 10:08 AM
when's the game's release date?

Rashidi
09-26-2010, 10:14 AM
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-final-w-jordan.html

This is the complete list of player ratings with the exception of the entire free agent list (only have the top 6, and at this point I'd sooner jump off a bridge than type it up anyway). I also compiled the ratings for the Jordan mode teams. Most of these teams only have the top 5-6 players, and beyond that are filled with 50s rated generics (which is disappointing, but completely expected given 2K's track record). Jordan teams were not listed in the position rankings which can be found below all of that.

JordansBulls
09-26-2010, 10:18 AM
http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-final-w-jordan.html

This is the complete list of player ratings with the exception of the entire free agent list (only have the top 6, and at this point I'd sooner jump off a bridge than type it up anyway). I also compiled the ratings for the Jordan mode teams. Most of these teams only have the top 5-6 players, and beyond that are filled with 50s rated generics (which is disappointing, but completely expected given 2K's track record). Jordan teams were not listed in the position rankings which can be found below all of that.

So these are the actual ratings of every player in the game or your modified ratings? I know the Classic teams are legit with there ratings.

netsgiantsyanks
09-26-2010, 10:50 AM
october 5th is the release date, fadedmario

knicksfan42
09-26-2010, 11:02 AM
So these are the actual ratings of every player in the game or your modified ratings? I know the Classic teams are legit with there ratings.

2K11's ratings, I can tell, because at the top of the 2K11 player ratings page he has a link to his ratings, ''To compare to Rashidi's Player Ratings for 2K11, click here.''

nuggetsyankees
09-26-2010, 11:10 AM
how is tim duncan still 90

knicksfan42
09-26-2010, 11:36 AM
How is Dirk Nowitzki rated only 83?

How is Terrence Williams rated (highly at) 76?


Yea the ratings definitely have some problems, but hopefully they'll be corrected as the season goes on.