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marlinsfan24
09-14-2010, 01:44 PM
kinda amazing no ones ever done that before. And it's very pathetic Uggla's getting no love for this accomplishing this.

GoatMilk
09-14-2010, 01:47 PM
very impressive

Pittz
09-14-2010, 02:08 PM
He's getting so little love you spelled his name wrong in the title

carson005
09-14-2010, 02:11 PM
He's getting so little love you spelled his name wrong in the title

That and Uggla's whole game is hitting home runs. Everyone knows he can hit 30+ home runs, but we also know he can't field for ****

FlakeyFool
09-14-2010, 02:20 PM
he isn't even in your signature

TheRuckus
09-14-2010, 02:34 PM
It's impressive. Of course, it'd be more impressive if he was any good at fielding.

BigLee53
09-14-2010, 02:41 PM
future DH for the Yankees.

MDfootball36
09-14-2010, 02:43 PM
good for him

Boo2u
09-14-2010, 02:55 PM
kinda amazing no ones ever done that before. And it's very pathetic Uggla's getting no love for this accomplishing this.

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Well I'm impressed. I agree, lets recognize a big accomplishment and something pretty significant for the records. Leave criticism of fielding, etc. for another day, nobody's going to mistake him for a true 5-tool player.

samanjerry
09-14-2010, 02:59 PM
a big powerful bat will dwarf any ****** fielding. manny still gets plenty of love and so does dunn and kent for the matter so if ugg keeps doing what hes doing and eventually plays for a winning team he will get his rec

HickCaesar
09-14-2010, 03:55 PM
I always hate playing the Marlins because of him. Great player

Bronzbomba
09-14-2010, 04:03 PM
Nah he sucks. Two errors in the all star game last year....gg

Pujolsfan91
09-14-2010, 04:07 PM
I'm also surprised that this hasn't been done before. Great accomplishment nevertheless. At least he's better than Skip at Fielding :rolleyes:

yankswin27
09-14-2010, 04:24 PM
I don't care how he fields, Uggla can mash at the plate. I have mad respect for him, he's my favorite Florida Marlin player.

BTW, watch out for the 2011 Marlins....

Chris Coghlan 3B
Logan Morrison LF
Hanley Ramirez SS
Dan Uggla 2B
Mike Stanton RF
Gaby Sanchez 1B
Cameron Maybin CF
John Baker C

Manatoo
09-14-2010, 04:46 PM
a big powerful bat will dwarf any ****** fielding. manny still gets plenty of love and so does dunn and kent for the matter so if ugg keeps doing what hes doing and eventually plays for a winning team he will get his rec

Well, last time i checked Uggla didn't have a career 1000 OPS.

1-800-STFU
09-14-2010, 04:49 PM
Well, last time i checked Uggla didn't have a career 1000 OPS.

Last time I check Uggla didn't play in a position that is rife with good bats.

Great offensive production for a 2B, i'd take him anyday

BALLER71
09-14-2010, 04:56 PM
Our lineup will be pretty good next year if Coghlan comes back healthy

Manatoo
09-14-2010, 04:59 PM
Last time I check Uggla didn't play in a position that is rife with good bats.

Great offensive production for a 2B, i'd take him anyday

Except for the fact that his glove takes away from some of the value of him playing at 2B

Compare their age 30 season and it isn't close, so why take him at anyday?

1-800-STFU
09-14-2010, 05:04 PM
Except for the fact that his glove takes away from some of the value of him playing at 2B

Compare their age 30 season and it isn't close, so why take him at anyday?

Of course it takes away some of the value, but to simply dismiss it because of his glove is flat out idiotic.

That type of offensive production is coming from a premium position. One position who barely sees any players with an OPS over .800 let alone what he has.

jmtapia
09-14-2010, 05:09 PM
Anyone know if Uggla could play any other position?? His bat is very good but his glove at 2B takes away a significant amount of his worth.

samanjerry
09-14-2010, 05:20 PM
im sure he can play 1st. maybe some 3rd but usually SS goes 3rd

1-800-STFU
09-14-2010, 05:26 PM
His offense loses alot of its value if you put him at 1st or 3rd. Part of the reason he is a good hitter is because power like that is rare for a 2B

Manatoo
09-14-2010, 05:32 PM
Of course it takes away some of the value, but to simply dismiss it because of his glove is flat out idiotic.

That type of offensive production is coming from a premium position. One position who barely sees any players with an OPS over .800 let alone what he has.

Yes of course not, but it does take away alot and to compare him to Manny is as you say is just idiotic, Manny is a future HOF that has put up a career 72 WAR, Uggla hasn't even gotten to 20 at age 31 or had a full season over 5.

tphillyfan
09-14-2010, 05:32 PM
how much longer will they have him at 2b anyway?

giantspwn
09-14-2010, 05:37 PM
Jeff Kent was one of the greatest second basemen of all time who could mash. He never got much acknowledgment either.

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 05:40 PM
a big powerful bat will dwarf any ****** fielding. manny still gets plenty of love and so does dunn and kent for the matter so if ugg keeps doing what hes doing and eventually plays for a winning team he will get his rec

gag me.

a guy at a defensive position that is below average hurts his team.

a guy with a slash of .262/.347/.487 and an OPS+ of 117 isn't anything special.

He's a 3.7 WAR player, can't steal bases, and is easily outplayed by half a dozen current 2B, just shows HR's are not everything.

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 05:57 PM
Jeff Kent was one of the greatest second basemen of all time who could mash. He never got much acknowledgment either.

Kent could hit for sure.

Just to put it into historical perspective:

Joe Morgan >> Jeff Kent >>> Uggla

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 05:59 PM
im sure he can play 1st. maybe some 3rd but usually SS goes 3rd

At 1B his offense is a hair below average. At DH for the Yanks, he be pathetic, for one thing, he'd have to face the AL East, for another a league average OBP, 30 HR hitter isn't enough for a high budget team like the NYY.

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 06:00 PM
Last time I check Uggla didn't play in a position that is rife with good bats.

Great offensive production for a 2B, i'd take him anyday

Take a closer look at the current 2B offerings, he's well off the top of the heap, more like the top of the middle.

1-800-STFU
09-14-2010, 06:14 PM
Yes of course not, but it does take away alot and to compare him to Manny is as you say is just idiotic, Manny is a future HOF that has put up a career 72 WAR, Uggla hasn't even gotten to 20 at age 31 or had a full season over 5.

I never compared him to Manny.

marlinsfan24
09-14-2010, 06:16 PM
Take a closer look at the current 2B offerings, he's well off the top of the heap, more like the top of the middle.

Dan Uggla:
League Leaders - 2010
Ranks 6th in NL in HR (30) Ranks 6th in NL in RBI (92)
Ranks 11th in NL in R (89) Ranks 10th in NL in BB (69)

1-800-STFU
09-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Take a closer look at the current 2B offerings, he's well off the top of the heap, more like the top of the middle.

Depends on what you mean by that.

I'd put him anywhere 3-7 with Johnson, Prado, and Phillips all close in production if we're talking strictly 2010

Cano and Weeks are the only 2 I'd take over him going again by just 2010.


Long term I'd take Cano, Utley, Kinsler, Pedroia over him.

Overall maybe he slides in somewhere 5-8, still very good to me. Maybe you consider that top of the middle and we dont really disagree except on semantics :shrug:

hoggin88
09-14-2010, 06:28 PM
Take a closer look at the current 2B offerings, he's well off the top of the heap, more like the top of the middle.

Are you talking for this year? He is 2nd in wOBA out of all MLB 2B this year, and 3rd place isn't even that close to him.

Even a typical year for him would put him probably in the top 5. I'd say that's pretty good.

Nymfan87
09-14-2010, 06:31 PM
Offensively only Robinson Cano and Chase Utley are better, but if you take into account defense, I'd put him as the 7th best 2B in baseball behind (in no particular order): Cano, Utley, Phillips, Weeks, Pedroia, Kinsler. His bat is great for a 2B but if you put a bucket at the second baseman's position it would get to more balls than Uggla.

kingKhan24
09-14-2010, 06:34 PM
yay

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 08:06 PM
Dan Uggla:
League Leaders - 2010
• Ranks 6th in NL in HR (30) • Ranks 6th in NL in RBI (92)
• Ranks 11th in NL in R (89) • Ranks 10th in NL in BB (69)

Let's see... counting stats, wow...

I also meant in all of MLB including the AL where a number of superior 2B play. Also I mentioned player, not hitter.

But have fun with your counting stats if it turns you on.

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Are you talking for this year? He is 2nd in wOBA out of all MLB 2B this year, and 3rd place isn't even that close to him.

Even a typical year for him would put him probably in the top 5. I'd say that's pretty good.

Sorry, a 2B is a player, not a hitter alone, another poster has him 7th overall, and that's pretty fair. 7th out of 30 is not a HOF, nor an especially great player, plus he's only a few years from his decline, and his career started late. In 30 years he'll just be another good hitter in an era of them.

Not special.

hoggin88
09-14-2010, 08:34 PM
Sorry, a 2B is a player, not a hitter alone, another poster has him 7th overall, and that's pretty fair. 7th out of 30 is not a HOF, nor an especially great player, plus he's only a few years from his decline, and his career started late. In 30 years he'll just be another good hitter in an era of them.

Not special.

Well since the guy you quoted seemed to be talking about offensive production only, I thought you were as well. And I definitely wouldn't consider hiim to be just the 7th best hitting 2B in the MLB. But overall? Sure.

And no one is declaring him a HOF by any means. He is a good player though, I don't think there is much question about that.

WadeBirdman
09-14-2010, 09:34 PM
Congrats to Danny Uggla!

jaysfan46
09-14-2010, 09:46 PM
I like how Uggla pulls off quite an accomplishment and bagwell368 makes it his mission to discredit him as a player.

bagwell368
09-14-2010, 10:40 PM
I like how Uggla pulls off quite an accomplishment and bagwell368 makes it his mission to discredit him as a player.

Discredit? No.

Put the player into proper perspective? You bet. I made a crusade out of placing "hometown hero" Jim Rice into his place as well. So too bad, but you can't play that card either. Just a card carrying member of the truth squad.

I'll turn the laser beam on whomever I like, don't like, don't read.

RocketPower2010
09-15-2010, 10:34 AM
Offensively only Robinson Cano and Chase Utley are better, but if you take into account defense, I'd put him as the 7th best 2B in baseball behind (in no particular order): Cano, Utley, Phillips, Weeks, Pedroia, Kinsler. His bat is great for a 2B but if you put a bucket at the second baseman's position it would get to more balls than Uggla.

I lol'ed, hard, right in the middle of the office with my boss in the next room. you're funny.

anyway, grats to uggla. even though i never liked you as a player and i think you kinda also look like a douche always chewing that giant bubblegum (or is that a jawbreaker) all the effing time. doing any "first" in a game that has been around for more than 100 years is definitely an accomplishment in my book.

snspacer31
09-15-2010, 10:42 AM
this just in Dan uggla traded to the mets... fast foward 2 years his career is over and is pronounced with hiv......

snspacer31
09-15-2010, 10:47 AM
marlins have a nasty nasty nasty squad for the next few years.. very excited to see mike stanton next year... poor mans adam dunn next year (in terms of fantasy baseball)

Pinstripe pride
09-15-2010, 11:23 AM
the fatc that he is not a DH yet boggles my mind

Jack of Blades
09-15-2010, 03:30 PM
I think Kinsler being only the third second baseman ever to join to 30 30 club is more impressive. No Homer.