View Full Version : Will Ricky Romero Be Our Ace?

09-04-2010, 04:21 AM
Technically, the Blue Jays entered uncharted territory today. They committed more money ($30.1MM) to Ricky Romero than any team has ever committed to a pitcher with less than two years of service time. But in reality, the extension is all about precedent.

“It’s all about comparables and comparable deals and what else has been done,” Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos said this evening, comparing Romero to Red Sox left-hander Jon Lester and Brewers right-hander Yovani Gallardo.

Both Lester ($30MM) and Gallardo ($30.1MM) signed deals worth virtually the same amount as Romero’s. The three extensions cover the exact same five seasons (one year of pre-arbitration, three arbitration seasons and one free agent season) and all include $13MM team options for the players’ second free agent years. It would be hard to construct three more similar contracts.

And it would be hard to find three more similar pitchers. If you compare Romero to Lester and Gallardo at the time they signed their respective contracts, you notice striking similarities. All three had made between 52 and 59 starts, posted ERAs between 3.57 and 3.94, allowed between 28 and 33 homers and walked between 134 and 141 batters. All three were selected within the first two rounds of the amateur draft and all three were 24 or 25 when they agreed to their respective deals.

There are differences, of course. Gallardo is right-handed and walks and strikes out more batters than the two lefties. Lester and Gallardo missed time early in their careers, whereas Romero has been fully healthy. Anthopoulos realizes the inherent risk of committing tens of millions to a pitcher, but says Romero has the stuff to improve over the course of the deal.

“You always have concerns when you make a commitment,” Anthopoulos said. “What the reaction might be on the part of the player, but we see a guy like Ricky continuing to improve. We think he’s going to be an innings eater, we think he’s going to be a horse [and] we think he’s going to continue to evolve.”


Well, he said at the beginning of the year he wanted the job. Is he the the "future ace" we build around with Morrow, Cecil, Drabek, Jenkins, Zep, Stewart and so on....???

09-04-2010, 04:55 AM
I feel like we have discussed this many times this season already.

09-04-2010, 07:49 AM
If you want to go by performance this year it would be Morrow has outperformed Romero (if only just)

Jays Claw
09-04-2010, 08:50 AM
I still think Morrow has the better ceiling and stuff to become our future ace. Romero on the other hand, would be a great #2 option.

09-04-2010, 11:34 AM
"We think, we think, we think"...Stop thinking and start knowing, that's why we always lose, we think tooooooo much. Watch Romero be a bust...But I thought he had the right stuff!!

09-04-2010, 12:12 PM

09-04-2010, 12:49 PM
Noone in our system has the stuff to be our ace. An ace should give us a chance to win everytime he picks up the ball(look at Halladay). Romero or even Morrow dont instill that kind of confidence. Sure they are young but we basically have 4 number 2 starters in our rotation. We need an ace

North Yorker
09-04-2010, 01:09 PM
If you want to go by performance this year it would be Morrow has outperformed Romero (if only just)

Morrow has to learn how to win on the road before he jumps Romero.

09-04-2010, 03:42 PM
I think we will have a pair of aces Romero and Morrow.

09-04-2010, 03:56 PM
We don't have an ace but you don't need one to be dominant. Look back at our Halladay days, we had the best our there but 1-5, our rotation was just above average year in year out. Assuming these guys pan out, Romero, Morrow, Drabek, Cecil etc will do just fine. Seems like we've got plenty of number two type starters. I'll take that any day. We'll have a very consistent staff.

09-04-2010, 08:08 PM
True, Morrow Romero Cecil Drabek all have top two-starter stuff and potential to turn into ace calibre in a few years. If it pans out we develop a similar rotation to key-wells-stodylmyre-Guzman or even better, a dream staff of carpenter-hallway-Escobar on our doorsteps

09-04-2010, 08:42 PM
Both Romero and Morrow look like they'll be consistent 4+ WAR pitchers, starting . Only 21 pitchers broke that barrier last year, and only 3 sets of teammates did it (Johnson/Nolasco in Florida, Lester/Beckett in Boston and Carpenter/Wainwright/Piniero in St. Louis). If we have 2 pitchers that do that consistently at the top of our rotation, who cares if we don't have a true "ace"? Throw in 3-4 WAR pitchers in Cecil, Drabek and possibly Rzepczynski (or Stewart, Jenkins, McGuire, etc.), and we've got the deepest rotation in baseball.