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Gators123
08-31-2010, 04:24 PM
Iguodala thinks so...


http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/24235748

Andre Iguodala has gotten the chance to see Kevin Durant up close and personal over the past few weeks. He's seen his work ethic, his attitude, his humble personality, his competitive drive and his incredible passion for the game.

And as a result of that, Iggy was prepared to make a pretty bold statement. Check that, a REALLY bold statement.

"Kevin Durant will be the NBAs all-time leading scorer when its all said and done," Iguodala said emphatically to CSN Philly . "He loves the game and has a knack for putting the ball in the basket."

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the all-time leading scorer with 38,387 points in 21 NBA seasons and played until he was 41. The most games he missed in a season was 20 and he only played less than 75 four times. Karl Malone is second all-time with 36,928 and Michael Jordan third with 32,292. Through three seasons, Durant has 5,967 points and will turn 22 in the next few weeks.

It's really hard to predict what Durant will do over the next 10 years or so which will be the prime of his career. He averaged 30.1 last season, so I'm going to assume he'll averaged at least 28 points per game for the next 10 seasons. He'll likely have a few seasons of 32-34, but maybe one or two of 26-27 during this time. So I'm totally guessing here and going with 28 just to try and figure out how possible this is. If he plays in all 82 each season, 28 ppg over 10 seasons would be 22,960 points. Plus his current 5,967, that's 28,927 with him being 32 years old. [More...]

Most players play until about 37 or 38, and at 32 KD would only have a few high scoring seasons left. Let's say he drops down to about 23 ppg for the next four years. That's 7,544 points. For his last two years, let's go with 15 ppg. That's 2,460 and puts him at 38,931. I'm going to subtract 1,500 off because KD isn't going to play in all 82 each season. So the number sits at 37,431. And that's with going with some seriously conservative estimates. I gave KD 28 ppg over the next 10 years and it's very likely he'll average at least 30. If that's the case, he'd be at 39,071.

So is it possible? Heck yes, it is. Of course you've got to throw in the obligatory "if he stays healthy" disclaimer but if Durant is one or two thousand points away from the all-time scoring lead, you can bank that he'd crank out an extra season or two to get there. I've only got Durant going until 38 which mean he's played 20 NBA seasons. He could go a few more and possibly touch 40,000. All of this is total estimation of course, but most will see Iguodala's statement as crazy. But when you start really looking at it, it doesn't see so far-fetched. I feel like I was pretty conservative with all the numbers and Durant is right there.

KD is truly a unique talent and these next 10 years will be an incredible amount of fun seeing what he could be. Could he average 35 a game? Could he average 37? I don't think he would because he's not selfish enough to put up multiple 60-point games, but I definitely don't think it's impossible. When you get to the free throw line, shoot near 50 percent from the floor and hit 40 percent on 3s, you can score 30 a night fairly efficiently. And when you're the youngest scoring champion in the league's history, these type of all-time marks become part of the conversation.
What will Durant's career look like in 20 years? That's a long dang time off so I have no idea, but as cool as this type of achievement would be, you can be sure that KD will only start to care about that sort of thing after he's put multiple NBA championships trophies on his mantle.

asandhu23
08-31-2010, 04:26 PM
no way.

mikealike305
08-31-2010, 04:28 PM
way to early to say, can he do it? yes, but in the NBA (in life) there are way to many things that can turn up unexpectly

stejay
08-31-2010, 04:31 PM
so far, I would suggest no.... thats a huge number. but you never know. plus, if Iggy says so, must be true I say :rolleyes: lol

SteveNash
08-31-2010, 04:32 PM
Hell no.

Ragun
08-31-2010, 04:36 PM
not happening.

GSW Hoops
08-31-2010, 04:38 PM
We're forgetting that Kareem's record may be broken by someone else first. The most obvious candidate is Kobe Bryant, who is at 25,790 career points and will probably play at a relatively high level until he's 40.

So, KD may need to top 40,000 to get the record.

NYtilIdie
08-31-2010, 04:38 PM
I think its possible. He's already won a scoring title at 21 the youngest to date, although theres an asterisk next to it.

He doesn't rely on athleticism to score like Lebron, he has a consistent jumper which will help him in he long run and can still get to the rim when he needs to.

I think its possible, but wouldn't bet on it.

lavilevi23
08-31-2010, 04:40 PM
nah no chance...

Sandman
08-31-2010, 04:41 PM
Its a bold statement, but these statements are inevitable after the guy just became the youngest ever scoring champ.

asandhu23
08-31-2010, 04:44 PM
I think its possible. He's already won a scoring title at 21 the youngest to date, although theres an asterisk next to it.

He doesn't rely on athleticism to score like Lebron, he has a consistent jumper which will help him in he long run and can still get to the rim when he needs to.

I think its possible, but wouldn't bet on it.

neither does LeDouche. He bullies his way through.

THE MTL
08-31-2010, 04:46 PM
No, players like Durant, Kobe, etc. dont go until 38-40 (hind years). They usually retire while they are near the top of the league.

I think Lebron James has the best chance to achieve NBA All-time scoring. He started really early at 18, plays in almost every game (only missed 26 for career), and he is still young! Yes, he is on Miami where his average might drop a bit but I still say he gives 23-26ppg.

THE MTL
08-31-2010, 04:49 PM
We're forgetting that Kareem's record may be broken by someone else first. The most obvious candidate is Kobe Bryant, who is at 25,790 career points and will probably play at a relatively high level until he's 40.

So, KD may need to top 40,000 to get the record.

Most obvious candidate is Lebron James. Kobe injuries are catching up and he is 32. And Kobe wont play until he is 40. I dont see him playing in his twilight years like Shaq. I say he retires like Jordan did around 36 or 38.

GSW Hoops
08-31-2010, 04:57 PM
No, players like Durant, Kobe, etc. dont go until 38-40 (hind years). They usually retire while they are near the top of the league.

I think Lebron James has the best chance to achieve NBA All-time scoring. He started really early at 18, plays in almost every game (only missed 26 for career), and he is still young! Yes, he is on Miami where his average might drop a bit but I still say he gives 23-26ppg.

Just like Jordan? :)

SteveNash
08-31-2010, 04:59 PM
Spree went out on top.

stejay
08-31-2010, 05:02 PM
Spree went out on top.

He had no choice lol

Grifftiggs
08-31-2010, 05:12 PM
I just don't understand these threads. What is the point of talking about something like this? Ask this question in 10 years and maybe there will be a better answer, but not three years into this kids career. You never know what can happen, he could get hurt, he could fall apart, he could break records, but having a thread for this is like talking just to hear yourself talk.

Gators123
08-31-2010, 05:13 PM
I just don't understand these threads. What is the point of talking about something like this? Ask this question in 10 years and maybe there will be a better answer, but not three years into this kids career. You never know what can happen, he could get hurt, he could fall apart, he could break records, but having a thread for this is like talking just to hear yourself talk.

Nobody forced you to open this thread

mcgswfan
08-31-2010, 05:14 PM
All I've got to say on this subject is: Records are meant to be broken. Someone will topple Kareem's record, eventually...

td0tsfinest
08-31-2010, 05:16 PM
If he can keep up the production, he can definitely make a run at it. He's only 21 and he put up 30 PPG last season. But of course, there are a lot of factors that could prevent him from reaching the milestone.

JordansBulls
08-31-2010, 05:19 PM
Do we have to create threads that talks about something 15 years in the future?:eyebrow:

Sandman
08-31-2010, 05:28 PM
No, players like Durant, Kobe, etc. dont go until 38-40 (hind years). They usually retire while they are near the top of the league.

I think Lebron James has the best chance to achieve NBA All-time scoring. He started really early at 18, plays in almost every game (only missed 26 for career), and he is still young! Yes, he is on Miami where his average might drop a bit but I still say he gives 23-26ppg.

LBJ and KD were essentially the same age. Durant was 19yr1mo and LeBron was 18yr10mo

fadedmario
08-31-2010, 05:28 PM
Kobe will be the NBA's all-time leading scorer. I love Durant though. Kid's a beast.

3RDASYSTEM
08-31-2010, 05:29 PM
All i can say is he's a legit 7footer now and add on a crossover and flame 3pt shot...i was checkin out the BLUE VS WHITE and he's easily as tall or taller than Chandler....he'll get 30per nxt 3 season barring injury...

stejay
08-31-2010, 05:42 PM
All i can say is he's a legit 7footer now and add on a crossover and flame 3pt shot...i was checkin out the BLUE VS WHITE and he's easily as tall or taller than Chandler....he'll get 30per nxt 3 season barring injury...

ummm since when has KD been 7ft? He is 6"9 inches.

Matrix3132
08-31-2010, 05:50 PM
All i can say is he's a legit 7footer now and add on a crossover and flame 3pt shot...i was checkin out the BLUE VS WHITE and he's easily as tall or taller than Chandler....he'll get 30per nxt 3 season barring injury...

Haha, 7 foot?

Barring injury, he'll get 30 ppg the next 3 seasons? He's 21, do you see him limping up the court at age 24? More like, barring injury, he'll get 30 ppg the next 10 seasons...

stejay
08-31-2010, 05:53 PM
All i can say is he's a legit 7footer now and add on a crossover and flame 3pt shot...i was checkin out the BLUE VS WHITE and he's easily as tall or taller than Chandler....he'll get 30per nxt 3 season barring injury...

in the words of the great Fabolous....
"What kinda weed he be smoking, what kinda drinks he be sippin?"

stejay
08-31-2010, 05:53 PM
Haha, 7 foot?

Barring injury, he'll get 30 ppg the next 3 seasons? He's 21, do you see him limping up the court at age 24? More like, barring injury, he'll get 30 ppg the next 10 seasons...

Sounds like we have a relatively new NBA fan in our midst...

ABOMB_56
08-31-2010, 05:53 PM
I think Lebron had the better shot till he went to the Heat because his PPG production is going to dip. But I also don't see KD doing it as well.
In his first 3 seasons: KD had 5,967 points.
In his first 3 seasons: LBJ had 6,307 points

ABOMB_56
08-31-2010, 05:54 PM
I think Lebron had the better shot till he went to the Heat because his PPG production is going to dip. But I also don't see KD doing it as well.
In his first 3 seasons: KD had 5,967 points.
In his first 3 seasons: LBJ had 6,307 points

I think I got the millionth post with this one.
:bow:

stejay
08-31-2010, 05:56 PM
I think Lebron had the better shot till he went to the Heat because his PPG production is going to dip. But I also don't see KD doing it as well.
In his first 3 seasons: KD had 5,967 points.
In his first 3 seasons: LBJ had 6,307 points

Then again, so far LBJ has had better service than KD...

Gators123
08-31-2010, 05:56 PM
I think I got the millionth post with this one.
:bow:

:win:

Ovratd1up
08-31-2010, 05:59 PM
Do we have to create threads that talks about something 15 years in the future?:eyebrow:

Better than creating threads that talk about something 15 years in the past :eyebrow:

MrBigShotBWill
08-31-2010, 06:09 PM
No Chance!! Most people in the NBA when you think about all time guys would never think Karl Malone was second all time in scoring! Durant wont break Mr Sky hooks record just won't have that many years. Very tough record to get.


The League is set up in a way it wont be broken unless some new MJ/KOBE/LBJ Hybrid does the 35 ppgs for 10 years. Don't see it!!

beasted86
08-31-2010, 07:10 PM
I hope Iggy was just joking around, but either way it shows he must know nothing about NBA history, and must have poor logic in general.

Just doing some quick math here... Assuming KD plays in at least 75 games per season, he could average 30 PPG for the next 14 seasons straight, and he'd still be about 1000 points shy of Kareem.

He's a good scorer and all, but NO chance of that happening.

Hawkeye15
08-31-2010, 07:34 PM
its possible. But he will need perfect health, and in reality, he will need a year or two at well over 30 ppg.

Baller1
08-31-2010, 07:42 PM
Of course he will.

He's Kevin ****ing Durant; he can do anything.

Chacarron
08-31-2010, 07:53 PM
I say no for the moment. I want to see him average 35 PPG in one season before we start talking.

Avenged
08-31-2010, 07:58 PM
It really is impossible in my opinion.

He'd have to play about 15+ seasons averaging the amounts of points he does now (or a bit more) which will be very difficult to do. Now, I'm no math wiz, but this is just my assumption.

Personally, I hope he doesn't. That record fits nicely being owned by a former Laker :)

Hangtime
08-31-2010, 08:13 PM
IDK. That's a bold prediction. There have been lots of good scorers early in their careers. I guess it all depends on injuries, longevity, whether or not the teams he continues to play on will require him to score on a high level. IMHO I would say no.

kArSoN RyDaH
08-31-2010, 08:18 PM
if durant can continue to develop then yes. he has to prove that last year wasnt just a fluke. but if he stays at this pace he has a tremendous chance at reaching that milestone but anything could happen. the record he should be trying to break is most championships for a player though ;)

TheTakeOver24
08-31-2010, 08:42 PM
I like Kevin Durant a lot and think he will be a great player. I love how humble he is... He is already one of the best pure scorers I have EVER seen.
BUT... I wanna see him keep up the scoring and stay healthy for a couple more years before I start predicting record breaking stats from him.

NPH
08-31-2010, 09:18 PM
Ow, my hip.

xbrackattackx
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
I like Kevin Durant a lot and think he will be a great player. I love how humble he is... He is already one of the best pure scorers I have EVER seen.
BUT... I wanna see him keep up the scoring and stay healthy for a couple more years before I start predicting record breaking stats from him.

x 2

Unrequited
08-31-2010, 09:32 PM
you guys forgot the potential lockout...

tredigs
08-31-2010, 09:47 PM
The way he scores is very conducive to a long, highly productive career. That's all I'm going to say.

It's a very long road between now and ~40k.

Bulls_fan90
08-31-2010, 09:56 PM
no way.

Close 2nd behind Monta?

tredigs
08-31-2010, 09:59 PM
Close 2nd behind Monta?

Now he's listening.

Method28
09-01-2010, 02:40 AM
This is a lock people. Quote me here....by the time Durant is done, he'll far exceed the scoring record.

Now come talk to me in 15 years or so and see if im right :)

_KB24_
09-01-2010, 03:27 AM
Of course he has a shot, but in all honesty, we should be asking this during the beginning of the next decade. Why now?

Baller1
09-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Of course he has a shot, but in all honesty, we should be asking this during the beginning of the next decade. Why now?

It's inevitable, so why not talk about it now?

asandhu23
09-01-2010, 04:13 PM
Close 2nd behind Monta?

:facepalm: no. Monta isn't getting that record either

Carey
09-01-2010, 04:28 PM
It's possible, he has a pure stroke and a great knack for scoring which helps which helps but its alot of factor that go into being able to score at the type of level for the type of time needed to break the record. Health, ability to adjust your game once athleticism starts to fade, even wanting to play long enough to be able to break this type of record. I'd have to say Mr. Bryant shouyld be the first name among current players we should be mentioning in regards to this and alot depends on how long he wants to play.

BlazingJ
09-01-2010, 04:37 PM
NO way, Durant is getting too hyped up for now. He has the potential, but potential doesn't get you anywhere. just ask greg oden :(

Chacarron
09-01-2010, 08:06 PM
NO way, Durant is getting too hyped up for now. He has the potential, but potential doesn't get you anywhere. just ask greg oden :(

You are delusional. Potential? He already has proven he can be a leader and a scorer.

CowboysKB24
09-01-2010, 08:08 PM
Unlikely, but I see him doing plenty of great things in his career. MVPs for sure, and odds are a championship or maybe even a few. They are a piece or two away from really threatening the Lakers in the West.

PrettyBoyJ
09-01-2010, 08:30 PM
Lebron was on pace to pass it but prob ruined his chances now joining the super team.. But K.D. is a natural scorer can score anywhere on the court.. I guess he will flirt with passing it or come close but for sure he passes 30,000 points