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asandhu23
08-29-2010, 05:32 PM
12:30 Eastern time.


Let's get the game discussion going.

Is King of Flops / Sideshow Bob playing?

Sir Buckets
08-29-2010, 07:04 PM
This is going to be our toughest real game so far, right?

I think it'll be pretty close early on, but we'll pull away and have a comfortable lead for the last 1-2 quarters.

NYKalltheway
08-29-2010, 07:13 PM
In all honesty, teams know that they'll lose to the USA 9 out of 10 times even if they play their best.
So most teams just try to stick to as small a score difference possible.
You could expect a transformed opponent in the knockout stage when it's all or nothing.
Croatia, Slovenia and Brazil were certainties for the qualification. Iran and Tunisia are just too bad in comparison, so in a group were 4 out of 6 teams advance, they don't wanna sweat a lot when they know it won't make a huge difference.

Splitter might try to play his best so that his name in the NBA will not sound strange

asandhu23
08-30-2010, 12:17 PM
Wait... is the game at 2:30 ET or 12:30 ET? on Team US website it says 12:30 but on NBA.com it says 2:30

asandhu23
08-30-2010, 12:19 PM
Look at this http://www.usabasketball.com/

and

http://www.nba.com/

Which time is it, goddamit?

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 12:31 PM
look at this http://www.usabasketball.com/

and

http://www.nba.com/

which time is it, goddamit?2:30 (eastern)

Raidaz4Life
08-30-2010, 12:31 PM
2:30 et

damn that means I'm gonna miss it....

DaBUU
08-30-2010, 12:38 PM
I just DVR'd it, starts at 1:30 (Central) on ESPN

arkanian215
08-30-2010, 12:44 PM
Hoping for another good beat down.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 01:03 PM
first test.
But brazil will go conservative in this stage group, caring more for not being bklowed out so they dont have basketaverage further complicatins.

In a Knockout they could mean trouble.

xILLN355
08-30-2010, 01:06 PM
barbosas gonna drop 45

Da Knicks
08-30-2010, 02:05 PM
barbosas gonna drop 45

turnovers! jk I really want to see Splitter the spurs usually know what they are doing over seas...:speechless:

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Cant wait to see Splitter against NBA competition. Want to see how his defense will translate, because I already know him and Manu will be a good pick and roll combo.

JordansBulls
08-30-2010, 02:14 PM
I just DVR'd it, starts at 1:30 (Central) on ESPN

Damn I should have done that.

nanablvd
08-30-2010, 02:14 PM
should be a great game to watch, splitter is whom i want to watch most. not familiar with him.

Wade>You
08-30-2010, 02:15 PM
So I woke up at 12:30pm EST to see the game. Last time I ever depend on a game thread for times lol.

Gators123
08-30-2010, 02:23 PM
So I woke up at 12:30pm EST to see the game. Last time I ever depend on a game thread for times lol.

:laugh2:

arkanian215
08-30-2010, 02:30 PM
I gotta say Tiago Splitter is a pretty awesome name.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 02:41 PM
guess i will have to inform people what the time is every day:p

Gators123
08-30-2010, 02:43 PM
How old is Splitter?

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 02:45 PM
How old is Splitter?24 or 25

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 02:45 PM
he is 25.

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 02:48 PM
Brazil is hanging there :)

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 02:48 PM
Obviously the Spurs have Splitter's draft rights...?

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 02:49 PM
Obviously the Spurs have Splitter's draft rights...?

he has already signed for this season

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 02:50 PM
fun game to watch

king4day
08-30-2010, 02:50 PM
Splitter is gonna help the spurs big time.
He and Barbosa are f'n up the US right now.

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 02:50 PM
wow USA is getting shitted on

dnewguy
08-30-2010, 02:50 PM
3 games in 3 days, even Jordan won't look sharp.

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 02:50 PM
good game so far

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 02:50 PM
he has already signed for this season

O nice thanks for telling me that.

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 02:51 PM
Rose needs to get back on the court and be more aggressive to help Durant out.

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 02:52 PM
The pick and pop was working earlier, they should get back to it.

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 02:53 PM
Splitters defense has been pretty impressive to me, mainly his pick and roll D. God knows it will be nice to actually have a big who can move his feet fast.

king4day
08-30-2010, 02:53 PM
I love Durant's leadership in this. He's lookin really good.

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 02:55 PM
USA has bad pick and roll defense..that needs to improve

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 02:57 PM
Splitters defense has been pretty impressive to me, mainly his pick and roll D. God knows it will be nice to actually have a big who can move his feet fast.

well iv ebeen telling all along if he gets the minutes he will bee in the all rookie team .

Pity Espn has already decided tht Wall or Turner has to be Roy.

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 02:57 PM
Brazil won't shoot this well the whole game. I'm not worried at all.

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 02:57 PM
USA should get back to more KD pick and pop. It was working earlier and he was hitting almost everything.

dnewguy
08-30-2010, 02:57 PM
All Durrant do is score the ball, play some defense man....Great players play both ends.

The[chi][town]
08-30-2010, 02:58 PM
Score please im at work

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 02:59 PM
lol Rose sucks. and why is Varejao not playin?

dnewguy
08-30-2010, 02:59 PM
Rose is tired.

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 02:59 PM
[town];14737939']Score please im at workBrazil 33, USA 30

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:00 PM
lol Rose sucks. and why is Varejao not playin?Rose is sucking thus far, and Varejao is gonna come off the bench (ankle).

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:00 PM
Rawrrrrrr

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:00 PM
Why doesn't Andy get to play?

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 03:01 PM
well iv ebeen telling all along if he gets the minutes he will bee in the all rookie team .

Pity Espn has already decided tht Wall or Turner has to be Roy.

Ive seen him before, I just dont know if hell have the stats to be on the rookie team. Its just encouraging to see him be able to play against the NBA comp, regardless of who the bigs are. Odom/Love arent scrubs

arkanian215
08-30-2010, 03:01 PM
Hurt kinda.

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 03:01 PM
iggy is an idiot

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 03:02 PM
No way usa lose to Brazil

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:03 PM
No way usa lose to Brazillol ik right...


Right?!?


:(

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:03 PM
Don't let USA shoot open 3s and prevent them from getting pts of turnovers and you have a chance to win.

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Is it me or does Iggy look like a mix between LeBron and Wade?

thescore53
08-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Rose needs to get back on the court and be more aggressive to help Durant out.

rose iis dissapointing me :pity:

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:06 PM
rose iis dissapointing me :pity:Statement. Retracted.

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 03:07 PM
lol that was a sick block by gay

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:07 PM
You would think putting Steph Curry in would make sense, USA has 2 slash oriented PGs right now.

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 03:07 PM
What a block by gay wow

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:08 PM
English commentary on a basketball game haha now Ive seen everything

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 03:09 PM
rose iis dissapointing me :pity:

he's playing fine.

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:10 PM
WOW Barbosa trying to pull off a Kobe ****

BALLER71
08-30-2010, 03:11 PM
he's playing fine.

Not really what you expect from "B3$T POiNT GAWD 3VA" according to Bulls fans.

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 03:11 PM
What a pass

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:11 PM
Beautiful behind the back muaaha

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:12 PM
Brazil's ball movement is good.

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:13 PM
Splitter looks like he should be in a late 90s vampire movie

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:13 PM
3 pt lead not bad Im feelin something

thescore53
08-30-2010, 03:13 PM
he's playing fine.

i expected more

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 03:13 PM
Its amazing watching the teams like Greece/Brazil/Spain and their ball movement. If the USA would move the ball like that instead of playing 1 on 1, they would be so much better.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:14 PM
lets see iv the verdeamarelos hold up

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 03:14 PM
Not really what you expect from "B3$T POiNT GAWD 3VA" according to Bulls fans.

I'm sorry you think that every Bulls fan is the same.

GodsSon
08-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Score please

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Its amazing watching the teams like Greece/Brazil/Spain and their ball movement. If the USA would move the ball like that instead of playing 1 on 1, they would be so much better.

SPurs do that.

Rest of the league....not so much, you kno 1st option hogs the ball, the others watch, thats what nba is about nowdays

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 03:17 PM
Westbrook > Rose so far in the World Championship

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 03:18 PM
i expected more

he's just not being aggressive as he should. 5 points 5 boards a steal 2 assist and 0 turnovers is not bad at all.

He's the only actually moving the ball everyone is going one on one.

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 03:18 PM
Its amazing watching the teams like Greece/Brazil/Spain and their ball movement. If the USA would move the ball like that instead of playing 1 on 1, they would be so much better.

Now you realise why lots of people prefer the Euroleague to the NBA? :cool:

YoungOne
08-30-2010, 03:22 PM
SPurs do that.

Rest of the league....not so much, you kno 1st option hogs the ball, the others watch, thats what nba is about nowdays

pls dont forget the celtics, one of the best teams in ball movement

alencp3
08-30-2010, 03:22 PM
Durant is beasting again as expected. 19 or 20 points i think
Curry should get some playing time and Love maybe even Granger cause Odom stinks.
Tiago Splitter should be a hell of a player for Spurs 14/8/2 as a rookie

Tha Truth
08-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Entertaining game so far.

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:26 PM
pls dont forget the celtics, one of the best teams in ball movement

include Suns as well.

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Spurs should trade Blair or Splitter cuze they already have a logjam @ PF including Timmy.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:28 PM
Spurs should trade Blair or Splitter cuze they already have a logjam @ PF including Timmy.

BOth Tiago and Duncan can play center.

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:30 PM
Splitter is a major upgrade over Bonner and could definitely start for them next year.

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 03:30 PM
good job Rose! way to turn the ball over... Odom? wow nice foul

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Spurs should trade Blair or Splitter cuze they already have a logjam @ PF including Timmy.

Nah, Splitter will play C. If anything Dice or Bonner will get traded/mins cut..hopefuly Bonner

Bullsfan22
08-30-2010, 03:34 PM
durant has to pass the ball right there.

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 03:34 PM
Now you realise why lots of people prefer the Euroleague to the NBA? :cool:

I do, their funadamentals are so good. I dont need to see crossovers or dunks to be entertained. Just them moving the ball and playing great pick and roll offense is fun to watch.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:34 PM
mmm im the only one that thinks Tiago looks a bit like ashton Kitcher'?

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 03:34 PM
lol Barbosa thinks he's Kobe

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 03:36 PM
That floater by Rose looks awkward, but it seems to go in pretty much every time I see him take it

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:36 PM
lol Barbosa thinks he's Kobe

He does that even in NBA games.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Mvp for Usa team tonight.

Leandro Barbosa!!!!!!!

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:36 PM
That floater by Rose looks awkward, but it seems to go in pretty much every time I see him take itYeah, it's lethal :D

pebloemer
08-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Spurs should trade Blair or Splitter cuze they already have a logjam @ PF including Timmy.

I think their PF/C positions have room for all three. Franchise player and youth should be the ones to stay. Journeyman role players should be the ones to go, or fill in for injuries.

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 03:36 PM
mmm im the only one that thinks Tiago looks a bit like ashton Kitcher'?

Haha..on another Spurs forum Im at, people seem to think he looks like Sean Scott Williams

SDBearsFan
08-30-2010, 03:37 PM
C'mon guys, what's the score? Considering 5 people have already asked and nobody has replied...

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:38 PM
****ing Barbosa man...

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:38 PM
C'mon guys, what's the score? Considering 5 people have already asked and nobody has replied...Brazil 50, USA 52

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:39 PM
somoene kill the cameraman he is doing an awfull job for raodacastin

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 03:39 PM
52-50 for the USA according to my play-by-play since my stream was taken down...

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 03:40 PM
crooner, splitter is an ugly mofo.

man, we can't defend a pick and roll. brazil passing well and playing with confidence. durant is so good. odom sucks, rose is frustrating. lets hope we pull it out.

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 03:41 PM
Andre Iguodala is the least World Championship compatible player on that USA team.

Can't see how he's preferred to Granger

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:41 PM
Andre Iguodala is the least World Championship compatible player on that USA team.

Can't see how he's preferred to Granger

More athletic.

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Andre Iguodala is the least World Championship compatible player on that USA team.

Can't see how he's preferred to Granger

coach k likes his handles, passing and defense. like him as a jack of all trades guy off the bench.

problem is, he is just average at most of these things and gets exposed.

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Barbossa Forgot how to shot ?

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Curry should get to play more. I hate the Derrick Rose + Westbrook combo.

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Well, it's obvious that US defensive game is not great. It depends too much on personal defending while 23 other teams rely on team effort.

Coach K still doesn't have an answer to Splitter's supremacy in the paint and Brazil's perimeter passing... If it was another team, Brazil would be forced to change their offense style 5 times till now

Durant is just too good to be true!

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Seems like Splitter just did USA a great favor by getting his 4th foul

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 03:47 PM
yeah, the US adjustments have been nonexistent. no surprise that billups is running the point recently, the immaturity of our young PG's is showing.

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 03:48 PM
lol Barbosa slid so far

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 03:48 PM
LOL Barbosa slid the whole length of the court

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 03:48 PM
7 seconds... put Curry in.

Hellcrooner
08-30-2010, 03:50 PM
unless brazil finds someone on a hot streak of shooting they are done.

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 03:50 PM
61-59 for USA 10 minutes to go

king4day
08-30-2010, 03:52 PM
I loved how, during the first half, when Westbrook made a FT, the sound guy played a snippet of 'Since you been gone' by Kelly Clarkson. How is that in any way, basketball related :laugh:

MrBigShotBWill
08-30-2010, 03:53 PM
Good game so far! Splitter looks pretty solid.

Looks like the spurs have another hidden weapon. They truly do find all the hidden gems overseas. And they have had splitters rights for a couple years.

xILLN355
08-30-2010, 03:54 PM
is vareajo playing?

VRP723
08-30-2010, 03:54 PM
This game is extremely boring.

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 03:54 PM
really impressed with the gameplan of brazil. they outprepared the united states, regardless of outcome, and have held their own without two nba-level inside players.

YoungOne
08-30-2010, 03:54 PM
Good game so far! Splitter looks pretty solid.

Looks like the spurs have another hidden weapon. They truly do find all the hidden gems overseas. And they have had splitters rights for a couple years.

but they gave away scola for nothing

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 03:55 PM
This game is extremely boring.

Not really if it was a blow out i would agree.

Da Knicks
08-30-2010, 03:59 PM
lol Barbosa thinks he's Kobe

damn cant watch the game is he chucking?:(

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 04:00 PM
This commentator is the best. Talking and chuckling to himself.

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Chauncey should start his own manufacturing company... Billups' Bricks

thescore53
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
rose is a beast

1-800-STFU
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
ROSE :)

bhahaha

king4day
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Rose has had a couple of real sexy plays in this one. That was a huge 'and 1'.

dickydick8
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
nice wrap around by drose & 1 after the break

Hustlenomics
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
that rose layup just now was siick

HoopsDrive
08-30-2010, 04:05 PM
This commentator is the best. Talking and chuckling to himself.

English commentators are all like that methinks...

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:05 PM
Usa usa usa

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 04:06 PM
damn cant watch the game is he chucking?:(

chucking 3's

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 04:07 PM
brazil is not concentrated now...

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:07 PM
Did he just say Lamar Odom Needs to Blow ?

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 04:08 PM
That person really spent time to make that sign.

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 04:09 PM
wow that Billups miss under the basket was pretty bad.

Hustlenomics
08-30-2010, 04:09 PM
how are we suppose to know the time left?!

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 04:11 PM
Odom is pure crap!
Splitter is impressive

YoungOne
08-30-2010, 04:11 PM
damn I miss rondo!

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:11 PM
Why is Durant not taking any shots?

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Where is Curry?

How come it doesn't show how much time is left?

NYKalltheway
08-30-2010, 04:13 PM
68-64 for USA
3 minutes to go

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:14 PM
ah I see the time now on the shot clock

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 04:14 PM
wow Durant 2nd travel of the game..! and people call him a top 3 player

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:15 PM
lamar wtf

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Brazil can't score for ****.

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:16 PM
I thought there was a Z in Brazil?

junion
08-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Where is Curry?

How come it doesn't show how much time is left?

The game's too close, Coach is keeping the starters in the most. I would put Curry in, and also Chandler or Love instead of Odom right now.

Are you watching in HD? The time shows for me, I'm watching in HD.

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 04:17 PM
Well.... at least it's a close, good game, lol

Hustlenomics
08-30-2010, 04:17 PM
how much time is left?

TheWatcher34
08-30-2010, 04:17 PM
USA will go down!!!!

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:18 PM
The game's too close, Coach is keeping the starters in the most. I would put Curry in, and also Chandler or Love instead of Odom right now.

Are you watching in HD? The time shows for me, I'm watching in HD.

yes im watching HD. The time just came up

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 04:19 PM
Wow nice ankle breaker

junion
08-30-2010, 04:19 PM
I thought there was a Z in Brazil?

lrn2international.

The US butchers some things... metric system, "Me-he-co" is "mecks-ico", "Brazil" "Brasil", etc

lavilevi23
08-30-2010, 04:19 PM
Wow that was close

Gators123
08-30-2010, 04:19 PM
oh ****!

Hustlenomics
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
damn billups

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
He will miss these free throws

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Mr. Big Shot to the rescue. smh

dickydick8
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
ahhh 2shots for brazil and 3 seconds left... brazil down by 2

TheWatcher34
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
oh ****!! that should have been it

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
choke

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Told you

gwrighter
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Flop

black1605
08-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Usa!

Hustlenomics
08-30-2010, 04:21 PM
good game barbosa ..i donno how usa struggled against these bums

king4day
08-30-2010, 04:22 PM
That was a hell of a game. Both teams played their hearts out.

Slimsim
08-30-2010, 04:22 PM
If your not the lakers your not making any mircale Shots.

TheWatcher34
08-30-2010, 04:22 PM
pathetic....USA will not win the fiba world championship! sig bet anyone??

kjoke
08-30-2010, 04:22 PM
as many allstars we have on that team, we should be blowing away these teams, oh well.

John Walls Era
08-30-2010, 04:23 PM
wow I'm not impressed with USA; that being said Brazil played really well.

gwrighter
08-30-2010, 04:23 PM
Barbosa shook iguadala though still.

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:24 PM
USA is a team of individuals not a Team

Joshtd1
08-30-2010, 04:24 PM
Good game to watch, but that game shows me the USA is definately vulnerable. Playing 1 on 1 will only get you so far, and if KD doesnt show up in one of these games USA will be in trouble against the better teams. Definately need to improve their pick and roll defense, because it was terrible.

Knowledge
08-30-2010, 04:24 PM
Someone like Andrew Bynum could have made a big difference if he was on this team.

Gators123
08-30-2010, 04:25 PM
:flag::flag::flag::flag:

Jewelz0376
08-30-2010, 04:28 PM
as many allstars we have on that team, we should be blowing away these teams, oh well.

when u think about it the only allstars on the team are durant, rose, and billups

Baller1
08-30-2010, 04:29 PM
Boxscore please.

Jewelz0376
08-30-2010, 04:30 PM
I'm stuck at work so I didn't get to watch the game just check the box scores and play by play

Can anyone break down what happened in the game and why usa only won by 2?? I noticed someone said our pick and roll d was bad...did it look like a replay of usa vs greece in the last world championships when they killed us with the p&R??

save the knicks
08-30-2010, 04:31 PM
as many allstars we have on that team, we should be blowing away these teams, oh well.

I think some people throw the term "All Star" around way to liberally

Sir Buckets
08-30-2010, 04:42 PM
Someone like Andrew Bynum could have made a big difference if he was on this team.Is there a reason Dwight isn't playing?

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 04:48 PM
Good game to watch, but that game shows me the USA is definately vulnerable. Playing 1 on 1 will only get you so far, and if KD doesnt show up in one of these games USA will be in trouble against the better teams. Definately need to improve their pick and roll defense, because it was terrible.


great points. durant goes cold for a half, we are finished. this team looks downright bad on offense when durant isn't being constantly fed the ball. brazil ran some really polished sets and passed very well, but the amount of open shots and open layups that they saw was unacceptable. not impressed overall with the what i saw today. coach k was outcoached.

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 04:50 PM
great points. durant goes cold for a half, we are finished. this team looks downright bad on offense when durant isn't being constantly fed the ball. brazil ran some really polished sets and passed very well, but the amount of open shots and open layups that they saw was unacceptable. not impressed overall with the what i saw today. coach k was outcoached.

In my opinion Rose, Billups, and Odom were all being ball hogs.

Durant wasn't getting any passes thats why he went "cold"

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 04:56 PM
In my opinion Rose, Billups, and Odom were all being ball hogs.

Durant wasn't getting any passes thats why he went "cold"

rose and odom are really frustrating to me. rose will make one spectacular play and then two that make you shake your head. billups imo played very well in the second half. rose and westbrook were throwing the game away and he sort of righted the ship.

i didn't mean today. durant didn't go cold, he just didn't get the ball sometimes. my point is, if he goes cold for a game and his shot isn't falling, we can't score. none of these other guys would make me comfortable as high volume scorers. the depth is shaky.

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 05:41 PM
rose and odom are really frustrating to me. rose will make one spectacular play and then two that make you shake your head. billups imo played very well in the second half. rose and westbrook were throwing the game away and he sort of righted the ship.

i didn't mean today. durant didn't go cold, he just didn't get the ball sometimes. my point is, if he goes cold for a game and his shot isn't falling, we can't score. none of these other guys would make me comfortable as high volume scorers. the depth is shaky.

K, I agree then.

I just wish Curry would get some playing time because I think he would play a better team game than Rose or Billups.

Curry would get Durant the ball and some good shots.

gwrighter
08-30-2010, 05:45 PM
K, I agree then.

I just wish Curry would get some playing time because I think he would play a better team game than Rose or Billups.

Curry would get Durant the ball and some good shots.

i think his defense isn't good enough. he would get manhandled in the pick & roll.

PraiseJesus
08-30-2010, 06:00 PM
i think his defense isn't good enough. he would get manhandled in the pick & roll.

Just because he is small doesn't mean he can't play good defense. He gets lots of steals and handles the pick and roll just fine.

Besides, his shooting, passing, and rebounding makes up for any of that.

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 06:14 PM
Just because he is small doesn't mean he can't play good defense. He gets lots of steals and handles the pick and roll just fine.

Besides, his shooting, passing, and rebounding makes up for any of that.

rather see him than westbrook at this point. rose to me is not the starter we need, but he has the body (no homo) that is needed to compete on the wings in FIBA.

and to be honest, for all of Rose's physical gifts, he has not been a great defender in this tournament.

Nugget Tony
08-30-2010, 06:38 PM
who's even watching this slop.....garbage!!!

NYtilIdie
08-30-2010, 06:39 PM
In my opinion Rose, Billups, and Odom were all being ball hogs.

Durant wasn't getting any passes thats why he went "cold"

Odom was just out there for rebounding it seemed like. But I didn't start watching until the middle of the 3rd.

I agree with Billiups and Rose. Both were to jumpshot happy especially Billiups. He was playing outta control, taking bad pop shots, bringing the ball up the court and shooting a 3. You'd figure he'd be more under control, since he's the oldest vet on the young team.

Rose was making silly TO's especially that alley-up to Odom.
Andre Iggy looked outta place. He was chasing his man around and looked lost on offense.

Durant needs to be more assertive through, he's the only superstar on the team, take over the team youngster.

U.S got lucky.

effen5
08-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Odom was just out there for rebounding it seemed like. But I didn't start watching until the middle of the 3rd.

I agree with Billiups and Rose. Both were to jumpshot happy especially Billiups. He was playing outta control, taking bad pop shots, bringing the ball up the court and shooting a 3. You'd figure he'd be more under control, since he's the oldest vet on the young team.

Rose was making silly TO's especially that alley-up to Odom.
Andre Iggy looked outta place. He was chasing his man around and looked lost on offense.

Durant needs to be more assertive through, he's the only superstar on the team, take over the team youngster.

U.S got lucky.

Im confused...Rose took 7 shots yet he was jump shot happy? He only took three jumpshots (the ones he missed) and the rest of the shots were either layups or floaters...

Billups on the other hand took 12 shots bricking from 3pt line going 1-7

Odom missed a lot open layups

Rose does need to knock off those silly TO's, that pissed me off today. He had 2 - 3 really bad ones I know he wants back.

evadatam5150
08-30-2010, 07:05 PM
as many allstars we have on that team, we should be blowing away these teams, oh well.

Most of these guys are second tier type guys.. No Kobe, no Wade, no La Skeez, no Amare, no Howard, no Mello.. Not hard to see why they might be struggling, there's really no closer or clear cut leader on the floor.. And no, don't want to hear that Durants the leader and a winner and a closer.. He's not... Might be someday but he's not that dude now.. Ten rebounds though, that's nice..

icej
08-30-2010, 07:07 PM
pathetic....USA will not win the fiba world championship! sig bet anyone??

Based on this game with the to's bad D on back court and bad choices of shots.

If team USA lost this fiba title - Only one word should explain what happened to the team..... RONDO.

NYtilIdie
08-30-2010, 07:17 PM
Im confused...Rose took 7 shots yet he was jump shot happy? He only took three jumpshots (the ones he missed) and the rest of the shots were either layups or floaters...

Billups on the other hand took 12 shots bricking from 3pt line going 1-7

Odom missed a lot open layups

Rose does need to knock off those silly TO's, that pissed me off today. He had 2 - 3 really bad ones I know he wants back.

I was just going off what I saw. I didn't start watching until the middle of the 3rd, it just seemed like he shot alot.

Odom was trying to do way too much. Trying to run along the baseline resulting in a TO, trying to do a lay-up over his man and resulting in a air-ball (maybe that was Durant).

I think the U.S. team is going to miss Rondo in the long run. He was the only guy who could run this team seeing as Rose,Billiups and Westbrook are more of the scoring type PG's.

thekmp211
08-30-2010, 09:00 PM
i think rondo will prove to be a loss. westbrook and rose were exposed in this game as primary playmakers. they were stale and uncreative, frenetic and vulnerable to pressure and mistakes. billups did better in the third, but his role on this team is to be a shooting guard. was rondo a liability shooting? yes, but rose and westbrook aren't great shooters. he can get the ball to durant when he's hot, but also run an offense that can make some of the athletes look better, too. his defense is strong, although the US had a systematic problem on d that wasn't really the result of one poor player.

i'd like to see curry in westbrooks role. he might get exposed on defense but he creates and can shoot. he looked capable enough on defense against spain. more eric gordon, less andre iguodala. iguodala is a hot/cold player who goes on long streaks, and he hasn't looked good this tournament. meanwhile, gordon shoots the lights out and is a strong guard. he can match up with any 2 here. more granger, less rudy gay, because granger is better at just about anything. i wonder if he's hurt. bench odom, start love and bring chandler off the bench. his size was a breath of fresh air for the US team, even if he's inconsistent.

i see articles and posters raving about coach k and this being such a great coaching job, but even when taking into consideration the time constraints placed on the american program i have to question some of the decision that have been made. 2008 was a no-brainer with the talent available. this is obviously not a first-team american squad, but the talent and depth is still a cut above the rest of the world. like i said before, this team looks like it can go very cold without a consistently hot durant. you can't bank on one guy every night, it eventually just doesn't work out.

sargon21
08-31-2010, 01:15 AM
well rondo quit what do u want? and also iguodala played like **** among others, get him outta there

ChiSox219
08-31-2010, 01:22 AM
i think rondo will prove to be a loss. westbrook and rose were exposed in this game as primary playmakers. they were stale and uncreative, frenetic and vulnerable to pressure and mistakes. billups did better in the third, but his role on this team is to be a shooting guard. was rondo a liability shooting? yes, but rose and westbrook aren't great shooters. he can get the ball to durant when he's hot, but also run an offense that can make some of the athletes look better, too. his defense is strong, although the US had a systematic problem on d that wasn't really the result of one poor player.

i'd like to see curry in westbrooks role. he might get exposed on defense but he creates and can shoot. he looked capable enough on defense against spain. more eric gordon, less andre iguodala. iguodala is a hot/cold player who goes on long streaks, and he hasn't looked good this tournament. meanwhile, gordon shoots the lights out and is a strong guard. he can match up with any 2 here. more granger, less rudy gay, because granger is better at just about anything. i wonder if he's hurt. bench odom, start love and bring chandler off the bench. his size was a breath of fresh air for the US team, even if he's inconsistent.

i see articles and posters raving about coach k and this being such a great coaching job, but even when taking into consideration the time constraints placed on the american program i have to question some of the decision that have been made. 2008 was a no-brainer with the talent available. this is obviously not a first-team american squad, but the talent and depth is still a cut above the rest of the world. like i said before, this team looks like it can go very cold without a consistently hot durant. you can't bank on one guy every night, it eventually just doesn't work out.


There are a lot of things I disagree with in this post.

Rather than nitpick, why can't we give these guys at least through the prelims to start criticizing a group that has played together for such a short period of time?

I saw a lot of things that need work during today's game, I'm sure the coaching staff did too.

Antipod
08-31-2010, 02:49 AM
Lucky :)

thekmp211
08-31-2010, 02:24 PM
There are a lot of things I disagree with in this post.

Rather than nitpick, why can't we give these guys at least through the prelims to start criticizing a group that has played together for such a short period of time?

I saw a lot of things that need work during today's game, I'm sure the coaching staff did too.

what do you disagree with? im interested. i agree that it's early, but we also know how a lot of these guys play and not all of our problems are attributable to meshing as a team.

ChiSox219
08-31-2010, 02:43 PM
i think rondo will prove to be a loss. westbrook and rose were exposed in this game as primary playmakers. they were stale and uncreative, frenetic and vulnerable to pressure and mistakes.

What I've seen is Rose and especially Westbrook are the only two players able to get to the rim consistently. This true zone defense is tough to get past and we've already seen KD drive only to turn the ball over because he collides with a well postioned defender or is stripped by help.

Westbrook and Rose will be prone to a lot of mistakes because they have no experience.




billups did better in the third, but his role on this team is to be a shooting guard. was rondo a liability shooting? yes, but rose and westbrook aren't great shooters. he can get the ball to durant when he's hot, but also run an offense that can make some of the athletes look better, too. his defense is strong, although the US had a systematic problem on d that wasn't really the result of one poor player.


Rose is a great shooter. I don't think Westbrook is there yet but he's got the advantage over Rondo in that department.

I thought Billups had a poor game, especially as a veteran. He took some ill-advised shots and did little to create offense for himself or others.




i'd like to see curry in westbrooks role. he might get exposed on defense but he creates and can shoot. he looked capable enough on defense against spain.

I wouldn't mind seeing more Curry.



more eric gordon, less andre iguodala. iguodala is a hot/cold player who goes on long streaks, and he hasn't looked good this tournament. meanwhile, gordon shoots the lights out and is a strong guard. he can match up with any 2 here.

I'm not a big Iguodala fan and I agree he has been streaky but his defense has been very good and I think we lose that (and size/athleticism) with Eric Gordon. If Gordon isn't hot, he doesn't bring much to the table at this point. That's not to say Gordo should get less minutes.



More granger, less rudy gay, because granger is better at just about anything. i wonder if he's hurt.

I am also a critic of Rudy Gay but his defense has been great. Offensively he's tried to do too much too often but I'm not sure we wouldn't get the same thing with Granger.

Wouldn't be surprised if Granger is ailing or fatigued because of his injury from this past season and I'd rather he be healthy for the NBA.



bench odom, start love and bring chandler off the bench. his size was a breath of fresh air for the US team, even if he's inconsistent.

Big fan of Love but I think Odom has done a fantastic job. He's just about the only guy we have that can defend the Pick and Roll, he's a great rebounder, and excellent at starting fastbreaks either with an outlet pass or handling the ball himself.

Love should continue to get minutes because he does a lot of things well.

Tyson Chandler looks lost sometimes...

thekmp211
09-01-2010, 08:36 PM
i see what you're saying about rose and westbrook getting to the rim. it's just painful to watch them make poor decisions and see inferior pg's run great offensive sets. that's why maybe backing rose up with curry as opposed to westbrook would make sense as a nice change of pace.

billups made some bad plays, but he did a good job of distributing and moving the ball. there are only so many appropriate times for the dribble drive iso offense.

i get that the long, athletic, rangy defenders are key but i'm not seeing the results with gay and iguodala. our individual and team defense has been subpar for the tournament...gordon is tough and big enough to defend in FIBA. i think we agree that granger's absence is strange.

odom is nice and versatile, and runs the break well but to be honest i'd rather have the ball in many other players' hands and he has looked downright lazy at times. chandler is a doofus but he helped stop brazils pick and roll onslaught the other day.

i just think there are ways to make this team more fluid and dangerous, even with the lack of chemistry. it is REFRESHING to talk differences without getting insulted! what a thought.