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tredigs
08-25-2010, 11:21 AM
Team USA's final exhibition V. Greece (tournament begins in 3 days) tips off in just under an hour (12:00 PM Eastern). It'll be on ESPN and ESPN3.com stateside.


USA head coach Mike Kryzyzewski
"Opening Comments?":
We’re honored to be here. One of the great things about our preparation is stopping in two of the best basketball countries in the world in Spain and Greece, playing against their national teams in exhibition games. This is the fourth time I’ve been to Greece. I love the country and many of the coaches in the last 20 years who have visited Duke have been Greek coaches. We’ve developed strong friendships. It will be an honor to play here tomorrow night and we’re hoping that we can play well.

"In 2006 you had a better team than you do now and you lost to Greece. How do you like your chances against Greece tomorrow night?"
That was four years ago. We won the Olympics in 2008 with a different team. We have a different team now and in London we’ll have a different team. Whatever happened in each of those years, 2006, 2008, it makes no difference with what we’re doing today. We have a young, athletic, very enthusiastic team that we think will play well in the World Championship.

"On the team’s lack of size?":
We thought we’d be bigger, but the first day of training camp we lost Lopez, Stoudemire and Lee. At that time we could not bring other people in, so it was, here’s who we have. We have to adjust and put in a system that would be good for this group. We would probably play a little differently if we had those other guys, we hope that it will still be successful, but there’s more room for error with the lack of size.

http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/additional_quotes__usa_pract_2010_08_24.html

Gators123
08-25-2010, 11:25 AM
Thanks for the reminder :)

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 11:27 AM
Yall are going down America!!!!! lol jk Should be a good game. I'm expecting Sofoklis to have a big game to do the US' lack of size

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 11:29 AM
WOW they are actually showing USA basketball on ESPN, is the Little League World Series over or something?

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 11:34 AM
Coach K,

Kevin Love needs some burn!!

tredigs
08-25-2010, 11:35 AM
Some plotlines on account of ballinEurope.com (pretty cool site):



PLOTLINES TO LOOK FOR IN TONIGHT’S GREECE VS. USA GAME

Unbelievable though it seems, tonight’s 2010 FIBA World Championship warmup game in Athens represents one of the last such games before the big tournament goes down. And though coach Jonas Kazlauskas has played down the importance of the game, stating that what happens tonight will have “nothing to do with” the Turkey tournament. (“Είναι ένα πολύ καλό τεστ, αλλά δεν θα έχει καμία σχέση με αυτά που θα συναντήσουμε στην Τουρκία.”)

FLASHBACK FROM 2006
There’s no way you can convince a Team USA backer of that, though. American fans of the international game surely have Greece as no. 1 on the hit list after handing the Red-White-and-Blues their last seriously egregious defeat, the 101-95 masterpiece in the 2006 FIBA Worlds – not to mention the glimpse of a nice adrenaline-inducing team that overcame Spain this weekend.

What to look for in tonight’s game? How about these subplots…?

• The Greek advantage in height… Even coach Mike Krzyzewski sounds a bit envious when contemplating the Hellenes’ roster, stating that Sofoklis Schortsanitis “would be useful for us, since we lack height” and that he admired the skills of Ioannis Bourousis. (Incidentally, where the *(*#^##!!#@ is Dwight Howard, by the way…?)

Normally, a Twin Towers schema would appear to be called for, but we may not face Sofoklis-Bourosis until late in the Turkey tournament, as the latter is unlikely to play tonight. Though given the all clear by doctors, Bourosis participated in practice on Monday and has the theoretical green light to play today; Greece-based media says that Kazlauskas will probably “not use the center before the World Championship.”

• …and experience. So Greece will be running slightly smaller tonight, with short-on-stamina Schortsanitis presumably starting in the middle and Kostas Tsartsaris seeing some quality time (unless Kazlauskas is still considering keeping Ian Vougioukas around, in which case the 25-year-old might get in early) – big deal. Team Hellas is running with seven guys that are 26 or older (Bourosis, Dimitris Diamantidis, Konstantinos Vasileiadis, Nikos Zisis, Antonis Fotsis, Vassilis Spanoulis and Kostas Kaimakoglou) representing a combined 33 international tournament appearances combined. With the exception of Kaimakoglou, all these guys have played for top-level Team Greece since at least 2003.

Where will we see the discrepancy between the solid unit of Greece and Team USA’s newbies? BiE’s looking at guard matchups and halfcourt play. So the backcourt played adequately against Spain (though hardly brilliantly and with few answers for Ricky Rubio still), but poor shot selection and the propensity to take contested jumpers are the Achilles’ heel(s) of this U.S. team. Against the defense of Diamantidis and Spanoulis, Chauncey Billups & Co. will have to play near flawlessly with the ball.

• Greece on its best behavior. Said Kazlauskas with regard to the melee with Serbia: “Everybody [knows] that we should not repeat this. We are professionals, we know that we did something wrong and need to protect our team.” It’s not like the Greece-based refereeing corps is gonna be tweeting the team for technical fouls, but with FIBA officials surely watching, the zebras will have a difficult time allowing any hint of overly physical play.

• Krzyzewski’s rotations. With Rondo out and the 12-man roster set, Coach K surely knows who his starting five (and sixth man, Lamar Odom) will be; it should be interesting to see what combinations come off the bench, particularly if Greece does throw out a pair of big men. How will time be distributed among Odom, Andre Iguodala, Tyson Chandler and Kevin Love.

• Can Team USA run like they did against Spain? If they can, they win this game: No one is going to “out-athleticize” the Red-White-and-Blues in this entire tournament. By romping early against Spain, the U.S. was able to build up a big enough lead to compensate for poor decision-making later and there’s certainly the opportunity to do the same here. Perhaps full-court pressure, Mr. Kazlauskas…?

The Greece-USA friendly tips off at 6pm CET (noon EST); you can catch the game live on FIBA TV for free in some markets.


http://www.ballineurope.com/us-basketball/nba/greece-usa-friendly-7357/#more-7386

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08-25-2010, 11:47 AM
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NYYCowboys
08-25-2010, 11:48 AM
I got my ESPN streak for the cash on the line for a double digit win LETS GO

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 11:54 AM
Hopefully Sofo doesn't eat Odom alive.

edit: Sofo isn't playing, darn.

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:02 PM
****, no sofo :(

Jemikz9Clutch
08-25-2010, 12:03 PM
i hope team usa has a better game against the greece

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:04 PM
TIPOFF.

Team USA starting lineup:

G: Rose
G: Billups
F: Durant
F: Igoudala
C: Odom

Greece starting lineup:
?
?
?
?
?

asandhu23
08-25-2010, 12:08 PM
Those Hellas jerseys look "hella" sick

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:09 PM
We have no size up front.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:10 PM
Greek players names all sound like dinosaurs.

Rose looking sharp early.

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:11 PM
We have no size up front.

So are we lol. No sofo or Bourousis

asandhu23
08-25-2010, 12:12 PM
Greek players names all sound like dinosaurs.

Rose looking sharp early.

I am pretty sure your name seems alien to them as well.

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:13 PM
So are we lol. No sofo or Bourousis

Our only center is chandler. Odom can't play center.

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:14 PM
Greek players names all sound like dinosaurs.

Rose looking sharp early.

LOL. You should see some of my cousins. Like 20 letter last names

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:14 PM
Our only center is chandler. Odom can't play center.

Our 2 best Centers are out with injuries.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:15 PM
So are we lol. No sofo or Bourousis

Where are Sofo-dactel and Bourouis-asauras? (just a guess on their full name ; )

The announcer talking about Rondo's unwillingness to be coached makes 100% sense to me. Called that the other day - every coach hates him for the first year they coach him (then they come out and eventually say that he has the highest basketball IQ of any player they have ever coached in their life). The team will miss his grit/playmaking/D, but hopefully they can gel better this way.

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:16 PM
I like me some Eric Gordon.

asandhu23
08-25-2010, 12:16 PM
HELL YES Curry is in. Game over for Greece

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:16 PM
Our 2 best Centers are out with injuries.

Is Sofo ever gonna go to the Clippers?

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 12:17 PM
now the us team could use kaman...

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:18 PM
Is Sofo ever gonna go to the Clippers?

No :( He signed with Maccabi Tel Aviv of the Israeli Super League

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 12:18 PM
Ahh palming and traveling...they actually call it here.

asandhu23
08-25-2010, 12:20 PM
Ahh palming and traveling...they actually call it here.

ahhh good old real unrigged basketball

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 12:22 PM
How do you blow a 3 on 1 lead on a fastbreak???

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:25 PM
8 point lead. Come on Greece, we gotta stop being sloppy on offense

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 12:28 PM
usa should use the clock more

Sir Buckets
08-25-2010, 12:31 PM
"The Octopus had nothing for Rose on that drive."

lol

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:32 PM
"The Octopus had nothing for Rose on that drive."

lol

Yea because its easy to catch up to a guy on a fast break :rolleyes: Stupid announcer

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:33 PM
Durant needs to stop chucking 3s.

Baller1
08-25-2010, 12:33 PM
Can someone please update the score every couple of minutes, I'm at work and have no way of following it.

Thanks in advance.

Gators123
08-25-2010, 12:34 PM
can someone please update the score every couple of minutes, i'm at work and have no way of following it.

Thanks in advance.

28 -usa
17

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:36 PM
Rose has been a ****ing beast thus far. Durant's had some shots rim out, but he's been doing a bit of everything.

Slimsim
08-25-2010, 12:36 PM
iggy cant shot

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 12:36 PM
pls stop shootin iguodala

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:37 PM
iggy cant shot

He can dunk.

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 12:37 PM
USA! USA! USA! DRose! USA! USA! DRose! USA! USA!

Sir Buckets
08-25-2010, 12:37 PM
Rose has been a ****ing beast thus far. Durant's had some shots rim out, but he's been doing a bit of everything.:nod:

unleashthebeast
08-25-2010, 12:38 PM
34 23 usa

Baller1
08-25-2010, 12:38 PM
28 -usa
17

Thanks.

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 12:39 PM
Man their center Tsartsaris is having a field day against Team USA's centers.

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:39 PM
Nice ball fake.

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 12:39 PM
C'mon put in KLove already!

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:40 PM
Tsartsaris is punishing USA's centers. Imagine if Sofo and Borousis were playing

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:43 PM
Tsartsaris is punishing USA's centers. Imagine if Sofo and Borousis were playing

Our starting center is the Lakers backup PF lol. All the injuries + players who decided to pass are definitely going to hurt us in the post.

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:43 PM
How was that over the back?

Gators123
08-25-2010, 12:43 PM
36 - usa

27

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:43 PM
Our starting center is the Lakers backup PF - all the injuries + players who decided to pass are definitely going to hurt us in the post.

But yall have a healthy full roster. The players that arnt on the roster dont matter.

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:44 PM
Our starting center is the Lakers backup PF lol. All the injuries + players who decided to pass are definitely going to hurt us in the post.

We are stacked at the guards. We should have kept McGee.

PistonsFan14
08-25-2010, 12:45 PM
The center for Greece is impressive. And he is not even supposed to start.

topdog
08-25-2010, 12:46 PM
Greek players names all sound like dinosaurs.


Tsartsaris is punishing USA's centers.


Lol

Although the USA team sounds like the pieces to a poem: We met at the West Brook and I gave a Rose to my Gay Love.

Gators123
08-25-2010, 12:47 PM
Lol

Although the USA team sounds like the pieces to a poem: We met at the West Brook and I gave a Rose to my Gay Love.

Creative :laugh2:

asandhu23
08-25-2010, 12:47 PM
Lol

Although the USA team sounds like the pieces to a poem: We met at the West Brook and I gave a Rose to my Gay Love.

and ate Curry at Durantupur Palace :D

unleashthebeast
08-25-2010, 12:48 PM
We are stacked at the guards. We should have kept McGee.

this. wtf were we thinking? he is a defensive machine and thats all we need from our bigs since our guards and wings can do all the scoring

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:49 PM
Iguoana.

bigsams50
08-25-2010, 12:49 PM
10 point lead. Not to bad

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 12:49 PM
42-32 not bad but not as exciting as the Spain game.

PistonsFan14
08-25-2010, 12:49 PM
Derek Rose looks like a rabbit in a turtle race.

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 12:52 PM
doesnt like that style of basketball, but so far its pretty effective..

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:52 PM
42-32 at half. Greece's interim center (something-sauras) has 17pts and is generally having his way in the post.

USA is running a 12 man-rotation, just kind of fooling around with different offensive sets. Greece is holding off on their big gun. US by double digits.

Baller1
08-25-2010, 12:52 PM
How are Durant and Westbrook doing?

And who's looked the best on the US thus far?

Chacarron
08-25-2010, 12:54 PM
How are Durant and Westbrook doing?

And who's looked the best on the US thus far?

Rose and Gordon are looking good.

PistonsFan14
08-25-2010, 12:55 PM
How are Durant and Westbrook doing?

And who's looked the best on the US thus far?

Durant is doing his thing. And as I was getting out before Rose is smoking Greece's transition defense. Impressive.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 12:56 PM
How are Durant and Westbrook doing?

And who's looked the best on the US thus far?

Durant has about 8 pts 5 rbs 1 ast. Westbrook had a few nice drives and kicks, but only played ~6 minutes. Announcer mentioned how he played his way onto the team and how he was the Team MVP in the Lithuania game. I'd say Rose actually looked the best so far; He prob has 12 pts 1 reb 1 ast 1 stl (numbers wise).

Overall we don't look too sharp, just kind of trying out different rotations. But it's getting the job done.

Baller1
08-25-2010, 12:57 PM
Thanks digs.

Bullsfan22
08-25-2010, 01:02 PM
anyone got a box score

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:04 PM
Thanks digs.

Oh, and they just did a halftime piece that at the end focused on KD's work ethic and drive, with Coach K saying what a unique player he was and how it was so impressive to see a player of his caliber be so committed to the game. Ended with KD interviewing while he said, "I know it sounds cliche', but my driving force is to be the best player ever". I like hearing that!

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 01:06 PM
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billyocean15
08-25-2010, 01:07 PM
iguodala lol. so bad

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 01:08 PM
iguodala 0-4 from ft's -.-

Bullsfan22
08-25-2010, 01:10 PM
rose needs to get better defensive positioning

Bullsfan22
08-25-2010, 01:11 PM
I love watching KD shoot

Baller1
08-25-2010, 01:13 PM
Oh, and they just did a halftime piece that at the end focused on KD's work ethic and drive, with Coach K saying what a unique player he was and how it was so impressive to see a player of his caliber be so committed to the game. Ended with KD interviewing while he said, "I know it sounds cliche', but my driving force is to be the best player ever". I like hearing that!

**** yeah. I love him so much.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:13 PM
KD - too good. Hits the three, nice ISO bank couple sets later.

Gators123
08-25-2010, 01:14 PM
lol @ WNBA playoffs

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 01:15 PM
why iggy doesnt stop shooting?

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 01:16 PM
Iguodala is not a shooter. Period.

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 01:16 PM
wow iggy wide open airball 3

Gators123
08-25-2010, 01:17 PM
Whats going on with Iggy? :speechless:

lakers4sho
08-25-2010, 01:18 PM
game over

Bullsfan22
08-25-2010, 01:20 PM
omfg unstoppable.

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 01:20 PM
durant is perfect for the fastbreak

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 01:21 PM
lol chaunsey

Gators123
08-25-2010, 01:22 PM
61- usa

41

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:22 PM
Durant with another nice no look dime to Rose for the reverse layup on the fast-break, followed by an absolute smash by KD on the following fast-break. USA's up 61-41 (for those at work).

Sir Buckets
08-25-2010, 01:25 PM
"Gordon again!"


*awkward silence*

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 01:28 PM
Harlem Globetrotter pass

Gators123
08-25-2010, 01:28 PM
:flag:

billyocean15
08-25-2010, 01:32 PM
ew who is #10

Wade>You
08-25-2010, 01:35 PM
Some plotlines on account of ballinEurope.com (pretty cool site):



http://www.ballineurope.com/us-basketball/nba/greece-usa-friendly-7357/#more-7386You can tell a fan of int. basketball wrote that article.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:38 PM
Curry's off today, too bad.

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 01:39 PM
Curry is pushing to hard, But on a better note the announcer said " Bang it inside"

tcav701
08-25-2010, 01:44 PM
Post defense and trying to hard sometimes seem to be the only flaws for the US.

Spain is the only challenger i see for them.

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 01:44 PM
LOL at the Greece announcers comparing Tsartsaris to Dwight lol.

tcav701
08-25-2010, 01:44 PM
Love is a monster on the boards. He needs more PT.

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 01:45 PM
Oh snap theres a gay laying on the court hurt.

Wade>You
08-25-2010, 01:45 PM
Whoever is that announcer for ESPN is a huge Int. basketball Homer.

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 01:46 PM
Love is a monster on the boards. He needs more PT.

thank you, i've been preaching this

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:46 PM
Love's going to lead the NBA in rebounding this year. Just really active/smart on the glass, and he actually boxes out.

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 01:47 PM
Love's going to lead the NBA in rebounding this year. Just really active/smart on the glass, and he actually boxes out.

yup, dont sleep on his offense either, he has some moves.

tcav701
08-25-2010, 01:47 PM
thank you, i've been preaching this

Thats why i was suprised with the Rondo deal. Love brings so many intangibles and is a team player. He will be the unsung hero of this FIBA.

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 01:48 PM
Whoever is that announcer for ESPN is a huge Int. basketball Homer.

x 2 Comparing Greece players to NBA Superstars.

spreadeagle
08-25-2010, 01:50 PM
They keep saying Love would not even make a good Euro roster lol,these annoucers stink

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 01:50 PM
ive read and heard Greece and Spain are actually favored ahead of us. nuts

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:50 PM
yup, dont sleep on his offense either, he has some moves.

yeah, relies a little too much on his jump shot for my liking (tho' it's a pretty good one), but he does have a few nice post moves. Where he lacks is defending oversized bigs who like to play in the block. Great outlet passing also.

But what is that for him tonight - 8 rebounds in 6 minutes? Just a beast down there.

YoungOne
08-25-2010, 01:52 PM
yeah love plays very good but dont overrate garbage time

Bullsfan22
08-25-2010, 01:52 PM
if westbrook would have thrown that duck down ouchh

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:53 PM
87-59 victory.

Westbrook had a nice finish, as did Love. Nice little warm-up domination session going into the real games.



yeah love plays very good but dont overrate garbage time
He's already the "Per-36" rebounding leader in the NBA. Not overrating much.

Gators123
08-25-2010, 01:53 PM
87- USA

59- Greece

:flag:

Wade>You
08-25-2010, 01:53 PM
Love's going to lead the NBA in rebounding this year. Just really active/smart on the glass, and he actually boxes out.D-Howard and his 13rpg say "What about me?" :)

Wade>You
08-25-2010, 01:54 PM
87- USA

59- Greece

:flag:This. :flag:

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 01:54 PM
yeah, relies a little too much on his jump shot for my liking (tho' it's a pretty good one), but he does have a few nice post moves. Where he lacks is defending oversized bigs who like to play in the block. Great outlet passing also.

But what is that for him tonight - 8 rebounds in 6 minutes? Just a beast down there.

yeah he does rely on his J, but that's something he'll fix with experience. Important thing is he has a nice J for a big man and decent around the basket. And with experience he'll be able to use his body better for positioning when it comes to bigger forwards. With AJ gone, i think Loves gonna shine this year. Im glad hes gettings some PT today.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 01:55 PM
Rose gets player of the game with 13 pts (3rd leading scorer). He had a really solid 1st quarter.



D-Howard and his 13rpg say "What about me?" :)

Love averaged 11rpg in just 28 minutes off the bench last season. He'll be starting this year - so I think him, or maybe even Joakim Noah if his foot stays healthy - should be the rebounding leaders next season.

Bullsfan22
08-25-2010, 01:55 PM
lmao at the whole team smacking the hell outta his neck

Wade>You
08-25-2010, 01:55 PM
Congrats to Rose for finally getting that covetted and elusive Tiffany's Player of the Game award.

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 01:56 PM
This. :flag:

x1000

AMERICA! (in George W. Bush voice)

Sir Buckets
08-25-2010, 01:57 PM
:clap:

4-0!

Can't wait for the real games to start though. Should be hella fun

dnewguy
08-25-2010, 02:01 PM
x1000

AMERICA! (in George W. Bush voice)

:)


The Republicans are everywhere :9/11:

netsgiantsyanks
08-25-2010, 02:03 PM
i gotta say though, that greece center was bascially a beast, i caught him just randomly flipping up a shot while he wasnt looking when a foul was called and he banked it in hahaha

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 02:06 PM
why isnt Dwight playing? He wasnt a free agent, no excuse D12 you should be representing your country!

AMERICA! (in Will Ferrel doing GWB voice)

Hellcrooner
08-25-2010, 02:23 PM
mmmm strange result, Greece is supposed to have a similar level to SPain and Argentina.

Did the play with al their best players?

grayski
08-25-2010, 02:26 PM
I guess the US did pretty well without Rondo. Derrick played free, hit the first three, petty much just showed out today, that is how he needs to play for us to get the gold. I absolute LOVED when the announcer kept saying that he believed Rose would be the starter in 2012 over both CP3 and D-Will. Congras to the player of the game!

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 02:29 PM
mmmm strange result, Greece is supposed to have a similar level to SPain and Argentina.

Did the play with al their best players?

No the "B"name center and some other center didn't play.

Tsartsaris(sp?) started.

topdog
08-25-2010, 02:39 PM
No the "B"name center and some other center didn't play.

Tsartsaris(sp?) started.

I don't know about Sofa Snausages... people say he's a beast but he didn't do too well for the clips' summerleague entry.

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 02:40 PM
I don't know about Sofa Snausages... people say he's a beast but he didn't do too well for the clips' summerleague entry.

Yea they were saying he was unstoppable or something?

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 02:45 PM
I guess the US did pretty well without Rondo. Derrick played free, hit the first three, petty much just showed out today, that is how he needs to play for us to get the gold. I absolute LOVED when the announcer kept saying that he believed Rose would be the starter in 2012 over both CP3 and D-Will. Congras to the player of the game!

yeah I heard that too. They're just now seeing what we get to see every game Rose plays for the Bulls.

USA!

greek miami hea
08-25-2010, 02:52 PM
Greek players names all sound like dinosaurs.

Rose looking sharp early.

do i need to remind you that you live in the us??

xbrackattackx
08-25-2010, 02:53 PM
do i need to remind you that you live in the the greatest country??

Fixed.

Hellcrooner
08-25-2010, 02:56 PM
meh can we skipp the group stages and go directly to teh semiginal?

(whoever made the shcedule is a MORON it shodul be the FINAL) i guess they tried to sweep the other side of the bracket so TURKEY can be lifted by refs to play the final.

Da Knicks
08-25-2010, 02:58 PM
Fixed.

lol dude come on:D

tredigs
08-25-2010, 03:05 PM
do i need to remind you that you live in the us??

Do I need to remind you that your last name is undoubtedly t-rexAropalis?

Anybody have a link to box-scores? The cumulative is on the usabasketball site, but I'd like to see each games, particularly this one.

edit: USA basketball has each games box as well - just not updated yet.

unwantedplayer
08-25-2010, 03:08 PM
Greek players names all sound like dinosaurs.

Rose looking sharp early.

Ehhh not really....

thekmp211
08-25-2010, 03:11 PM
http://espn.go.com/extra/fiba/boxscore?gameId=300827930

had to dig this up for ya on espn, tredigs :)

tredigs
08-25-2010, 03:11 PM
Ehhh not really....

Sense of humor on this site is top notch.



http://espn.go.com/extra/fiba/boxscore?gameId=300827930

had to dig this up for ya on espn, tredigs :)

Ohh yeah - that's what I'm talking 'bout. Mahalo. And "ESPN.com", who'd have thought???

thekmp211
08-25-2010, 03:14 PM
didn't catch the game, going to watch the replay later tonight.

seems like rose, durant, gordon and love played particularly well. odom, chandler, odom and curry seemed to struggle. interesting seeing iggy in the lineup, maybe to get a look at his d, and at durant at the 4?

i want more love and chandler, less odom. and more gordon and curry (despite his play) and less rudy and andre. smaller guards, bigger bigs, more shooting. i'll write something up again after i actually watch the game.

tredigs
08-25-2010, 03:17 PM
Kevin Love with 10 pts 12 rebs 3 stls in 12 minutes. A lot of garbage time, but that guy needs to start eating up Tyson Chandler and/or Lamar Odom's minutes.



didn't catch the game, going to watch the replay later tonight.

seems like rose, durant, gordon and love played particularly well. odom, chandler, odom and curry seemed to struggle. interesting seeing iggy in the lineup, maybe to get a look at his d, and at durant at the 4?

i want more love and chandler, less odom. and more gordon and curry (despite his play) and less rudy and andre. smaller guards, bigger bigs, more shooting. i'll write something up again after i actually watch the game.
Rose started un feugo, then tapered off to normalcy after a bit, while Durant started "meh" and then started playing like... Durant. Curry was forcing it a bit, not his night - and at the age of 26, Iggy still thinks he's an elite jump shooter in this league... unfortunately (tho' yeah, his D is solid).

Scarface-Bulls
08-25-2010, 03:41 PM
Iggy is similar to loul deng, they both fall in love with their jump shot when they should drive to the basket more. They both disapear in the fourth quarter. I'd still take Iggy over Deng.

Hellcrooner
08-25-2010, 03:49 PM
YOu Sould Start, Bilups, CUrry, Durant, Love and Chandler then Rose,Gordon,,Igouldala Gay, Odom play the main substitution.

HAvig a REal Pf and a Real C woudl be usefull whe you face teams with strong bigs.

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 03:56 PM
I think our overwhelming athleticism and attacking guards that can finish in the paint will offset our lack of height. As long as we play our game and run all day we wont have to worry about the lack of bigs. And the sooner KLove starts taking Chandlers minutes, the better. Our B squad is still the best team in the world.

Hawkeye15
08-25-2010, 04:06 PM
Kevin Love with 10 pts 12 rebs 3 stls in 12 minutes. A lot of garbage time, but that guy needs to start eating up Tyson Chandler and/or Lamar Odom's minutes.



Rose started un feugo, then tapered off to normalcy after a bit, while Durant started "meh" and then started playing like... Durant. Curry was forcing it a bit, not his night - and at the age of 26, Iggy still thinks he's an elite jump shooter in this league... unfortunately (tho' yeah, his D is solid).

Love has been undervalued his entire life due to color and lack of certain things. When in reality, the only thing holding him back is coaches not playing him

Tony_Starks
08-25-2010, 04:19 PM
Love has been undervalued his entire life due to color and lack of certain things. When in reality, the only thing holding him back is coaches not playing him




WHOA KIMOSABEE!!!! lets not go there brother. If anything that has been an advantage, not a hinderance.



*edit* and the "lack of things" you mentioned are things like athleticism, playing big when it counts (he had a garbage tournament before he entered the draft causing his stock to drop), and consistent defense.... to be fair.

greek miami hea
08-25-2010, 04:21 PM
Fixed.

em,i dont think so.... a great country is combined with great history...
and we do have a great history..wich is thousands of years old...

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 04:22 PM
Love has been undervalued his entire life due to color and lack of certain things. When in reality, the only thing holding him back is coaches not playing him

cant see that happening in the NBA, at least. NBA is all about winning, coaches are on the hot seat every year, their livelihoods depend on it. The best players play, i dont see an NBA coach holding him back cuz he's a white dude.

What I can see thats been holding him back is lack of athleticism and conditioning.

greek miami hea
08-25-2010, 04:23 PM
most of the european countries have great history...also china and japan have great history...but i guess that in the recent years we are not that great :P:P
dont get me wrong.i love usa. :)

DaBUU
08-25-2010, 04:26 PM
most of the european countries have great history...also china and japan have great history...but i guess that in the recent years we are not that great :P:P
dont get me wrong.i love usa. :)

what you think of the game? Do you think Greece stands a chance if your big man was playing? Is he good enough to make up a 20 point difference?

abe_froman
08-25-2010, 04:30 PM
WHOA KIMOSABEE!!!! lets not go there brother. If anything that has been an advantage, not a hinderance.


in the world of bsaketball nope ,its assumed when it comes to the sport black automatically means your better,ask fans they perpetuate this notion that skin color has an impact on bball skill

Hellcrooner
08-25-2010, 04:37 PM
in the world of bsaketball nope ,its assumed when it comes to the sport black automatically means your better,ask fans they perpetuate this notion that skin color has an impact on bball skill

Nah not skill, Atheticis m if anything. There are top nothc skilld playrs from any race but TOp nothc atheltic ones, only black

domz248
08-25-2010, 04:41 PM
Love has been undervalued his entire life due to color and lack of certain things. When in reality, the only thing holding him back is coaches not playing him

we loved him at ucla he was a beast

FarOutIos
08-25-2010, 04:44 PM
what you think of the game? Do you think Greece stands a chance if your big man was playing? Is he good enough to make up a 20 point difference?

Personally, I question whether or not Greece put up full effort. As Greeks go in general, we usually half *** things when they don't count.

As for the big men missing... that probably hurt some. I think the game could go either way when it counts, but US has to be greatly favored. Durant is really a unique weapon.

Philly Hammer
08-25-2010, 04:47 PM
Love has been undervalued his entire life due to color and lack of certain things. When in reality, the only thing holding him back is coaches not playing himWhy are you taking it there Love is not that good man so get over it. You say all this like you know him or something. If the guy is good than he's just good regardless of color and, in this case Love is not that good so stop trying to pull the race card. Love isn't getting any respect because he hasn't shown jack s**t. Also I haven't seen enough in him in just the little bit of time i've seen him play to suggest he will be any better than what i've seen. Why don't you watch the him play instead of trying to make an excuse for him when somebody critiques his play. Maybe you will see that not everybody is just bashing him and are just calling it how they see it something your obviously blind to.

Tony_Starks
08-25-2010, 05:16 PM
in the world of bsaketball nope ,its assumed when it comes to the sport black automatically means your better,ask fans they perpetuate this notion that skin color has an impact on bball skill


Nah man. In this game skills do all the talking. If you got crazy game then you get the playing time, the glory, the shine. Its not black players faults that there are no white Kobe's, Lebron's, or Amare's. It is what it is.

Assumption has nothing to do with reality and the reality is if you're lighting up the gym putting up 40 and 50 pt games making sportcenter highlight reels it doesn't matter if you're albino, you're still going to be the man!

greek miami hea
08-25-2010, 07:23 PM
what you think of the game? Do you think Greece stands a chance if your big man was playing? Is he good enough to make up a 20 point difference?

yes...bourousis is an excellent rebounder and is also know for his shooting ability.sofoklis....he is a monster under the rim...no love,no odon,no chalndler noone would stop him...i am dissapointed that we lost with such a huge difference...i ceraintly did not see that coming...but bourousis and sofoklis are 2 key players and our coach usually take full advantage of them when they are on court...im looking forward for a possible match up in turkey with both teams being fully healthy and ready(they should be by now) it would be a hell of a match :)respect

greek miami hea
08-25-2010, 07:24 PM
Personally, I question whether or not Greece put up full effort. As Greeks go in general, we usually half *** things when they don't count.

As for the big men missing... that probably hurt some. I think the game could go either way when it counts, but US has to be greatly favored. Durant is really a unique weapon.

yea i agree..but usa really lucks in big bodies and in experience( fiba regulations).

arkanian215
08-25-2010, 07:28 PM
:flag:
Boxscores
http://www.usabasketball.com/photos/10_mwc_exh_4_box.pdf

Having Stephen Curry and Eric Gordon to hit those outside shots will help break opponent's zones.

topdog
08-25-2010, 07:42 PM
Why are you taking it there Love is not that good man so get over it. You say all this like you know him or something. If the guy is good than he's just good regardless of color and, in this case Love is not that good so stop trying to pull the race card. Love isn't getting any respect because he hasn't shown jack s**t. Also I haven't seen enough in him in just the little bit of time i've seen him play to suggest he will be any better than what i've seen. Why don't you watch the him play instead of trying to make an excuse for him when somebody critiques his play. Maybe you will see that not everybody is just bashing him and are just calling it how they see it something your obviously blind to.

I disagree with the race argument - Love has been a well-known and chronicled player since high school.

I also disagree with you bashing Love, especially when you state the bolded portion above. You haven't watched him enough. He had great rebounding numbers his rookie year and made some great strides in the 2nd half. Then, last year he came back with improved shooting and better (but not great) conditioning. I wasn't a Love fan off the bat but he really has shown a desire and an ability to improve.

Hawkeye15
08-25-2010, 07:47 PM
WHOA KIMOSABEE!!!! lets not go there brother. If anything that has been an advantage, not a hinderance.



*edit* and the "lack of things" you mentioned are things like athleticism, playing big when it counts (he had a garbage tournament before he entered the draft causing his stock to drop), and consistent defense.... to be fair.

being white and slow creates a negative perception on a basketball floor, period.

Hawkeye15
08-25-2010, 07:50 PM
Why are you taking it there Love is not that good man so get over it. You say all this like you know him or something. If the guy is good than he's just good regardless of color and, in this case Love is not that good so stop trying to pull the race card. Love isn't getting any respect because he hasn't shown jack s**t. Also I haven't seen enough in him in just the little bit of time i've seen him play to suggest he will be any better than what i've seen. Why don't you watch the him play instead of trying to make an excuse for him when somebody critiques his play. Maybe you will see that not everybody is just bashing him and are just calling it how they see it something your obviously blind to.

Love is one of the top 3 rebounders in the NBA, can trigger a break with the flick of a wrist, creates possessions for his team, can shoot three's, and is an excellent passer who gets to the line.
Not sure how he hasn't proved this

When a big, slow, white guy comes onto the basketball floor, there is a barrier he now has to break through, before he even laces up his shoes. While some will jump on my comments as racial, they are not at all. They are just what happens in the basketball world.

arkanian215
08-25-2010, 07:52 PM
It's nice to see we're winning the battle of the boards for the most part.

tcav701
08-25-2010, 07:56 PM
Love is one of the top 3 rebounders in the NBA, can trigger a break with the flick of a wrist, creates possessions for his team, can shoot three's, and is an excellent passer who gets to the line.
Not sure how he hasn't proved this

When a big, slow, white guy comes onto the basketball floor, there is a barrier he now has to break through, before he even laces up his shoes. While some will jump on my comments as racial, they are not at all. They are just what happens in the basketball world.

The fact he is big and slow has nothing to do with the fact hes white. He does have a limited vertical game and his offense and post D is similar to that of Big Baby's.

His rebounding especially on the offensive glass is top notch. I think Love will be huge in the tournament and he will be the unsung hero for the US. But I do see relevant critisms of his game on an NBA level.

But to make the main point clear, he is PERFECT for this tournament.

Tony_Starks
08-25-2010, 07:59 PM
being white and slow creates a negative perception on a basketball floor, period.




As well it should! Hell would you rather have Brian Cardinal or Hakim Warrick?

Hawkeye15
08-25-2010, 08:02 PM
well, I have been high on Love since UCLA, and was excited the Wolves got him. I see at least an all star game in his future

Hawkeye15
08-25-2010, 08:02 PM
As well it should! Hell would you rather have Brian Cardinal or Hakim Warrick?

I would rather have Love.

topdog
08-25-2010, 08:20 PM
As well it should! Hell would you rather have Brian Cardinal or Hakim Warrick?

Depends on my team. Do I need a legit post defender with a high basketball i.q. and some decent shooting, or do I need an athletic energetic tweener?

I'm tired of people overrating athletics at the expense of skill and basketball i.q.

Tony_Starks
08-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Watching the replay of the game now Im really surprised alot more NBA teams don't try harder to get some of these veteran European guys to come over. A lot of these guys have really well rounded game not to mention deep range and would be a really nice piece to a contending team.....

Hellcrooner
08-26-2010, 01:26 AM
Watching the replay of the game now Im really surprised alot more NBA teams don't try harder to get some of these veteran European guys to come over. A lot of these guys have really well rounded game not to mention deep range and would be a really nice piece to a contending team.....

Here comes the troubleo.

Woudl you rather earn 400000 dollars taht after taxes become 180000 live out of your country for a tea whoe fans have 0 respect for you because you play 5 to 12 mpg.

IROR


Stay at your home, Get paid 1000000 dollars FREE of TAxes, be a popular player with fans and have a "sta"r role on your team


:confused:

Nba only makes sense for foreigners specially europeans if you are either.

An allstar

a starter

a sixth man but wi th an important role on your team.

Anything down that, nah take he money and be popular .

Sergio Rodriguez was offered a 900000 exetnension wiht new york to be the back up and play 15 or 20 mpg he decided to rdecline and come back here where he will start and earn ThRICE the money.

NYKalltheway
08-26-2010, 07:34 AM
http://galanissportsdata.com/basketball/online/onlinegamegsd.asp?game=1&cup=1

Box score for the game...

I'm really glad that Greeks didn't try to do well and has created a bad image in most of people's eyes.

You honestly believe that Greece defense, the best in the tournament (and every tournament in the last 5-6 years) is going to play man-to-man defense against the USA if this game meant something?

Also we didn't have a decent center.
Vougioukas is there because he has had a good year with Greece's 5th best team and he's there to fill the roster.
He and Calathes were also very nervous for the game as they lived in the states for a long time. Calathes does not have so many turnovers. And Diamantidis had an attrocious game, which happens once every 4-5 years. So no worries there. I only worry about Spanoulis who is a known turnover machine.

Schortsianitis and Bourousis who are our only other centers were out. First one said he hurt his ankle a little while before the game, second was injured and then had his head cracked open by a chair.

Tsartsaris is a typical PF. I'm not surprised he did well vs this USA team because there was seriously no one to stop him. Best role player for Panathinaikos imo. He has everything in his game.

As for Team USA, I think they did quite okay. It was like a training session for them. Greece just didn't want to lose by more than 15-20 probably and Americans wanted to win by as much as possible so that's where you get the 28pts difference. No one can doubt that the Americans are better individuals than most of the rest of the players in the tournament.

I really liked Derrick Rose's performance in 1st quarter.
Also Kevin Durant and Eric Gordon helped a lot with the scoring.
Apparently Lamar Odom got 5 steals! Most probably it was simple passes by the Greeks.

Kevin Love got the highest rating for this game (Tendex) which was quite surprising for me.

For those who don't know how Tendex works, I'm one of them as well, but I know that 0.75-1.00 means very good, and if it's over 1.0 it's close to perfect. (it has to do with everything divided by minutes played or something like that, so it's really a great tool)

greek miami hea
08-26-2010, 04:46 PM
http://galanissportsdata.com/basketball/online/onlinegamegsd.asp?game=1&cup=1

box score for the game...

I'm really glad that greeks didn't try to do well and has created a bad image in most of people's eyes.

You honestly believe that greece defense, the best in the tournament (and every tournament in the last 5-6 years) is going to play man-to-man defense against the usa if this game meant something?

Also we didn't have a decent center.
Vougioukas is there because he has had a good year with greece's 5th best team and he's there to fill the roster.
He and calathes were also very nervous for the game as they lived in the states for a long time. Calathes does not have so many turnovers. And diamantidis had an attrocious game, which happens once every 4-5 years. So no worries there. I only worry about spanoulis who is a known turnover machine.

Schortsianitis and bourousis who are our only other centers were out. First one said he hurt his ankle a little while before the game, second was injured and then had his head cracked open by a chair.

Tsartsaris is a typical pf. I'm not surprised he did well vs this usa team because there was seriously no one to stop him. Best role player for panathinaikos imo. He has everything in his game.

As for team usa, i think they did quite okay. It was like a training session for them. Greece just didn't want to lose by more than 15-20 probably and americans wanted to win by as much as possible so that's where you get the 28pts difference. No one can doubt that the americans are better individuals than most of the rest of the players in the tournament.

I really liked derrick rose's performance in 1st quarter.
Also kevin durant and eric gordon helped a lot with the scoring.
Apparently lamar odom got 5 steals! Most probably it was simple passes by the greeks.

Kevin love got the highest rating for this game (tendex) which was quite surprising for me.

For those who don't know how tendex works, i'm one of them as well, but i know that 0.75-1.00 means very good, and if it's over 1.0 it's close to perfect. (it has to do with everything divided by minutes played or something like that, so it's really a great tool)
this bro

Tony_Starks
08-26-2010, 06:00 PM
Here comes the troubleo.

Woudl you rather earn 400000 dollars taht after taxes become 180000 live out of your country for a tea whoe fans have 0 respect for you because you play 5 to 12 mpg.

IROR


Stay at your home, Get paid 1000000 dollars FREE of TAxes, be a popular player with fans and have a "sta"r role on your team


:confused:

Nba only makes sense for foreigners specially europeans if you are either.

An allstar

a starter

a sixth man but wi th an important role on your team.

Anything down that, nah take he money and be popular .

Sergio Rodriguez was offered a 900000 exetnension wiht new york to be the back up and play 15 or 20 mpg he decided to rdecline and come back here where he will start and earn ThRICE the money.



damn I never really thought about it like that. These teams are sleeping then, they'll give bums like Mo Pete, Dampier, or Larry Hughes 5-8 million but not some of these more talented overseas guys. Look at the impact Delphino had on the Bucks last year and he was pretty much out of the league.