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Run&Gun
08-23-2010, 05:16 AM
So far there are 3 Pg's that average 10 assist a game: Steve Nash, Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Rondo averaged 9.8 assist a game but I think that's close enough to 10. who will the next PG to do it?

I personally think that it could be Stephen Curry and here's why:
1) He's in a run and gun offense more chances to get assist with more possessions and points a game
2) Added David Lee to the mix may add another assist or two a game also has someone he could pick and roll with now
3) Towards the end of last season average over 7 assist a game in a month, shows a lot of promise with his passing ability and unselfishness.

Other person I think who could do it is Russel Westbrook, he may not have elite passing ability, but his team likes to run and he has the scoring machine Durant on his team, he also averaged 8.0 assist last year.

Argument could be made for Rose, but I don't think he quite has the passing vision to get 10 assist a game and he's more of a score first guy, but I can see him get over the 8 assist mark

John Wall could possibly thrown into the mix, but still hasn't played an NBA game, and he just doesn't have a whole lot of talent on that team.

What do you guys think?

-Kobe24-TJ19-
08-23-2010, 05:33 AM
jason kidd:shrug:

Wade>You
08-23-2010, 05:34 AM
You can't count out Jason Kidd.

I'll gamble on Rose, if he focuses on finding the right play rather than looking to score.

icej
08-23-2010, 05:38 AM
Yeah Jason Kidd can average 10 asst pg any given day.

Antipod
08-23-2010, 05:49 AM
Maybe D.Rose, but he`s more of a scorer
Curry, if Ellis goes
J Kidd(age factor?)

NBA-GMaster
08-23-2010, 05:59 AM
maybe Stephen Curry..

LTBaByyy
08-23-2010, 06:00 AM
Kidd? He averaged 9 assist last year! And this year he has chandler added to the team

you know what chandler does when he plays with a passing pg a few alley oops a game

so ill go with kidd with 10.7 assist a game this year

Knicks21
08-23-2010, 06:02 AM
Daren Collison

PHX2daDEATH
08-23-2010, 06:49 AM
Ray Felton

Khalifa21
08-23-2010, 06:52 AM
Curry or Collison.

Khalifa21
08-23-2010, 06:54 AM
Without sounding like a homer, Raymond Felton could have a chance. If Chris Duhon can average over 7 assists a game in D'Anotni's offense, Felton could have a shot at 10.

alencp3
08-23-2010, 06:54 AM
John Wall

tredigs
08-23-2010, 06:54 AM
Daren Collison

That was my first thought along with Curry. With the quick pace that the Pacers play and the huge amount of minutes he will get from the get go, I think that this is possible.

Steph Curry is going to have trouble averaging 10 unless we can get rid of Monta or convince him to take less of a role in the playmaking. But having D. Lee + Biedrins rather than two D-Leaguers in the block will make life much easier on him. So it's certainly possible.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
08-23-2010, 06:59 AM
c'mon derrick rose will not average 10apg next season

DCSportsIsPain
08-23-2010, 07:49 AM
LeBron James. He will be a point forward but still ...

Minimal
08-23-2010, 08:02 AM
LeBron James and Stephen Curry!

Rocco007
08-23-2010, 08:23 AM
1.Collison @ Indy...Just not sure who he's passing to...May take time...
2.Felton @ NY... will have the opportunity in D'Antoni's system but....
3.John Wall @ Wash... once Agent Zero understands who the PG is...That team will run...

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 08:27 AM
Collision

Steelers23_06
08-23-2010, 08:47 AM
Collision

on the pacers:eyebrow:...i say lebron even though he wont play the point, look for westbrook he just got better and playing under coach K and d'antoni in the offseason will make him that much better. baron davis could as well because i think gordon will get muchhh better and you have blake so that gives him 2 pretty solid players to give the rock to.

BOSTON617
08-23-2010, 08:53 AM
i mean the only person who really makes snese who i dont even think will do it is brandon jennings

IndyRealist
08-23-2010, 08:55 AM
Darren Collison. The stat that keeps getting thrown around is that in his 37 starts he averaged 18 and 9. Doubling off Granger or Hibbert is an easy assist, and Rush is a 41% 3pt shooter.

Giantwarrior
08-23-2010, 09:16 AM
curry

z_pak90@hotmail
08-23-2010, 09:25 AM
russel westbrook and darren collison

Swashcuff
08-23-2010, 09:57 AM
Without sounding like a homer, Raymond Felton could have a chance. If Chris Duhon can average over 7 assists a game in D'Anotni's offense, Felton could have a shot at 10.

thats not sounding like a homer. You actually have a good point.

Swashcuff
08-23-2010, 09:58 AM
I say Daren Collison

Oh an to those guys saying LeBron, please quite. Its a good thread please dont ruin it.

Steelers23_06
08-23-2010, 10:04 AM
I say Daren Collison

Oh an to those guys saying LeBron, please quite. Its a good thread please dont ruin it.

your mad ignoarant how is that ruining it lebron averaged 8.6 assists last season so you dont think he "could" average 1.4 more assists for the heat? im not saying he will but he difinitely has a chance especially with wade being the primary scroer and him taking on the facilitator role. he is going to be more like magic...having a well rounded game

td0tsfinest
08-23-2010, 10:07 AM
Steph Curry is a good choice. How about Westbrook? He put up 8 APG last season

Steelers23_06
08-23-2010, 10:08 AM
c'mon derrick rose will not average 10apg next season

x2

Minimal
08-23-2010, 10:09 AM
I say Daren Collison

Oh an to those guys saying LeBron, please quite. Its a good thread please dont ruin it.
:facepalm:
Hahaha, you mad the guy will average 10 assists per game?
Or one of the best passers in the NBA can't average 10 assists?
If he was a point guard he would average 11-12 assists.

Hellcrooner
08-23-2010, 10:10 AM
THis year im going with Felton due to Dantoni bal.

Swashcuff
08-23-2010, 10:11 AM
your mad ignoarant how is that ruining it lebron averaged 8.6 assists last season so you dont think he "could" average 1.4 more assists for the heat? im not saying he will but he difinitely has a chance especially with wade being the primary scroer and him taking on the facilitator role. he is going to be more like magic...having a well rounded game

Could you please read the thread title?

And how am I ignorant it seems as if you are being the ignorant one. Exactly what I said about ruining the thread. Sigh

icej
08-23-2010, 10:11 AM
Lbj with 10 apg is very possible, specially along side wade and bosh but he is not a point guard though, that is the position this thread is dedicated I think.

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 10:12 AM
not sure if LeBron will get enough minutes to averge 10 assists. his assist % may go up, but I don't think he gets the minutes

Swashcuff
08-23-2010, 10:13 AM
LeBron can surely get 10 assists per game. I have no doubt whatsoever about that. That is NOT the discussion here. The discussion is who is the next PG POINT GUARD to average 10 assists per game.

td0tsfinest
08-23-2010, 10:16 AM
Lebron is going to have to share ball handling duties with Wade and if this team is as good as everyone says they are, Lebron will be averaging much less minutes than compared to previous seasons.

mikealike305
08-23-2010, 10:19 AM
LeBron can surely get 10 assists per game. I have no doubt whatsoever about that. That is NOT the discussion here. The discussion is who is the next PG POINT GUARD to average 10 assists per game.

lebron will be playing the 1 :)

no you are right.... this thread is about true PGs not lebron...

i'd say rose.... just cuz the bulls get korver and booz

TO to the CHI
08-23-2010, 10:25 AM
your mad ignoarant how is that ruining it lebron averaged 8.6 assists last season so you dont think he "could" average 1.4 more assists for the heat? im not saying he will but he difinitely has a chance especially with wade being the primary scroer and him taking on the facilitator role. he is going to be more like magic...having a well rounded game

This. I hate the Heat as much as the next guy, but LeBron will now be more pass oriented with better teammates to get it to. 10 APG is certainly not out of the question.

Hugbees
08-23-2010, 10:30 AM
Steph it is!

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 10:34 AM
no more LeBron talk please. This is for PG's. Thanks

HOZ THE KNICK
08-23-2010, 10:37 AM
felton...

markbutter
08-23-2010, 11:01 AM
So far there are 3 Pg's that average 10 assist a game: Steve Nash, Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Rondo averaged 9.8 assist a game but I think that's close enough to 10. who will the next PG to do it?

I personally think that it could be Stephen Curry and here's why:
1) He's in a run and gun offense more chances to get assist with more possessions and points a game
2) Added David Lee to the mix may add another assist or two a game also has someone he could pick and roll with now
3) Towards the end of last season average over 7 assist a game in a month, shows a lot of promise with his passing ability and unselfishness.

Other person I think who could do it is Russel Westbrook, he may not have elite passing ability, but his team likes to run and he has the scoring machine Durant on his team, he also averaged 8.0 assist last year.

Argument could be made for Rose, but I don't think he quite has the passing vision to get 10 assist a game and he's more of a score first guy, but I can see him get over the 8 assist mark

John Wall could possibly thrown into the mix, but still hasn't played an NBA game, and he just doesn't have a whole lot of talent on that team.

What do you guys think?

Well, I think it will be hard for Rondo to get 10 assists in the near term. First, assists require shooters, which he has in Pierce and Allen, but they are on the downside of their careers and anyone who watched game 7 saw Kobe play off of Rondo (there's a reason he had 11 def rebounds). I think until rondo gets a decent mid game jumper, alot of teams will defend him that way.

Second, assist leaders typically play in a faster paced environment, unless you're Stockton doing pick-n-roll with Malone (but even then, particularly early Utah was a methodic fast break team). So, with the two O'Neals, Big Baby, loss of the other Allen and the age of the big 3, I don't see Boston playing as a fast break team.

Finally, with the two O'Neals and their ability to play a bit back to the basket offensive game (vs. Perkins) I can see boston even slowing it down more to get those guys touches. But I really think after watching game 7 that teams will play off of rondo so as not to give him the lane to drive and dish.

Finally, in the last two years Ray Allen has shot his hightest FG % and last season Pierce shot his highest FG% and Tony Allen shot 51% (one other time he shot above 50%) and before that he never shot above 48%. These are the main reasons rajon averaged 9.8 assists last season and to believe Pierce and Allen will continue setting career highs in FG% is a bit unrealistic.

Korman12
08-23-2010, 11:16 AM
Westbrook

HowFit
08-23-2010, 11:19 AM
Kidd? He averaged 9 assist last year! And this year he has chandler added to the team

you know what chandler does when he plays with a passing pg a few alley oops a game

so ill go with kidd with 10.7 assist a game this year

^this...as well as Collison

alexander_37
08-23-2010, 11:19 AM
I don't think it would be out of the question for Tyreke Evans, Aaron Brooks, or Chauncy Billups to do it even if the 1st two are more scoring types.

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 11:21 AM
I don't think it would be out of the question for Tyreke Evans, Aaron Brooks, or Chauncy Billups to do it even if the 1st two are more scoring types.

Evans and Brooks, no way dude.

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 11:23 AM
Evans is a shot first, I will pass if I have to, player. Not that I am criticizing him all that much, he should be looking to score.

mikealike305
08-23-2010, 11:32 AM
rose will get close to it i think..... booz and korver will help him out alot

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 11:34 AM
rose will get close to it i think..... booz and korver will help him out alot

maybe, but he will have to change his game a bit. Which I think he is willing to do, we will see how it translates though.

mikealike305
08-23-2010, 11:41 AM
maybe, but he will have to change his game a bit. Which I think he is willing to do, we will see how it translates though.

yea i agree he needs to change his game up to me of a "true" 1 but not only do i think he is willing to but i think he can

jackdawson
08-23-2010, 11:45 AM
nvm...

nanablvd
08-23-2010, 11:46 AM
Collison. Jason Kidd did it before so he should not be considered the next one.

mikealike305
08-23-2010, 11:51 AM
I say Daren Collison

Oh an to those guys saying LeBron, please quite. Its a good thread please dont ruin it.

:facepalm::facepalm:

Dude, for real? Don't tell me you ever watched LeBron play, it will be just miserable for your basketball knowledge if it's true that you saw LeBron James play.

LeBron has the most chance to average 10 apg other than those 4 point guards listed on the thread. Dude averaged 8.6 apg with scrubs and now he has the likes of Wade, Bosh, Miller etc. Please, don't let madness take over civic sense.

although i agree with u and personally feel lebron will average anywhere from 9-11 APG.... i think he said that cuz the thread title is PGs.... lebron isnt a true 1

alencp3
08-23-2010, 11:53 AM
I believe Ricky Rubio will average 15 assists a season
Not with Darko Milicic and Beasley as the frontcourt too

mikantsass
08-23-2010, 12:07 PM
John Wall

Evolution23
08-23-2010, 12:12 PM
Raymond Felton in the run and gun can easily do it

spreadeagle
08-23-2010, 01:14 PM
whoever the **** is PG for the Heat,thats assist city mang

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 01:15 PM
whoever the **** is PG for the Heat,thats assist city mang

nah, they will be asked to dribble the ball up, then give it to LeBron or Wade, then stand there and space the floor.

spreadeagle
08-23-2010, 01:15 PM
I believe Ricky Rubio will average 15 assists a season
Not with Darko Milicic and Beasley as the frontcourt too

No you dont lol...I think he will average 30:rolleyes:

spreadeagle
08-23-2010, 01:20 PM
I think some people on here are forgetting that averaging 10 is A LOT and very hard to do!..Felton? Cmon son

spreadeagle
08-23-2010, 01:26 PM
nah, they will be asked to dribble the ball up, then give it to LeBron or Wade, then stand there and space the floor.

Could be Wade or Bron Id say good chance Bron can get 10 assists per

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 01:27 PM
Could be Wade or Bron Id say good chance Bron can get 10 assists per

not a PG, so not relative to this thread

But he wouldn't get the minutes anyways

Gators123
08-23-2010, 01:33 PM
I'll go with Curry.

clehmun
08-23-2010, 01:39 PM
your mad ignoarant how is that ruining it lebron averaged 8.6 assists last season so you dont think he "could" average 1.4 more assists for the heat? im not saying he will but he difinitely has a chance especially with wade being the primary scroer and him taking on the facilitator role. he is going to be more like magic...having a well rounded game

i'm going to say lebron will average less than 8.5 assists a game.
you do know he had the ball in his hands 90% of the time in cleveland. but in miami, it'll be like 40%.

BkOriginalOne
08-23-2010, 01:40 PM
Sorry, Derrick Rose will not get 10 apg, maybe 7-8. His scoring is needed.

10 plus dimes.
Curry definitely
Darren Collinson
Ty Lawson in a few years
Jennings has a shot

pistonsfanomg
08-23-2010, 01:41 PM
John Wall

nuggetsyankees
08-23-2010, 01:51 PM
^too soon to tell...he's more of a scorer than a distributer IMO

SA5195
08-23-2010, 01:52 PM
Steph Curry

Rivera
08-23-2010, 01:54 PM
russel westbrook?

brandon jennings?

ricky rubio? even though he wont b in the NBA this season


those would b my 3 top guesses in that order

Raidaz4Life
08-23-2010, 01:55 PM
:facepalm:
Hahaha, you mad the guy will average 10 assists per game?
Or one of the best passers in the NBA can't average 10 assists?
If he was a point guard he would average 11-12 assists.

He pretty much is a point guard.... people just cannot seem to grasp that concept





My picks would be Collison and Westbrook.

Minimal
08-23-2010, 01:55 PM
i'm going to say lebron will average less than 8.5 assists a game.
you do know he had the ball in his hands 90% of the time in cleveland. but in miami, it'll be like 40%.
:facepalm:
He will have the ball in his hands the same ammount of time, just now his Mo Williams will be Dwyane Wade. With teammates like Wade, Bosh, Miller, Chalmers, House and Chalmers he should easily get 10 assists per game and still put around 25 points per game.

Minimal
08-23-2010, 02:03 PM
He pretty much is a point guard.... people just cannot seem to grasp that concept
He is point forward, who gets 30 PPG and 8.6 APG.
Do you know any point guard who can average 30 PPG and 8 APG?
My point is if he concentrated on passing, not scoring he would easily average 11-12 APG and his stats will be something like this 22 PPG and 11-12 APG.

Rivera
08-23-2010, 02:16 PM
:facepalm:
He will have the ball in his hands the same ammount of time, just now his Mo Williams will be Dwyane Wade. With teammates like Wade, Bosh, Miller, Chalmers, House and Chalmers he should easily get 10 assists per game and still put around 25 points per game.


I know your overall point here BUT this sentence just DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT

i could think of a million smart *** comments but ill let my fellow PSDers do that for me lol

i dont know abt havin the ball 90% of the time.....if u watched miami play last yr Dwade brought up the ball alot of the time as well

the way how I FEEL the ball will b brought up and distributed is

DWADE will bring the ball up n have the "ball in his hands" 40% of the time
LBJ will do it 40% of the time
chalmers and arroyo (or whoever the hell miamis real PG on the depth chart is) 10% of the time

if u believe Dwade is just gonna allow LBJ to dribble dribble dribble like he did in cleveland your crazy

i know LBJ will be considered like the PG but if that really comes into fruition and LBJ IS THE REAL PG OF THE MIAMI HEAT

then i expect LBJ to PLAY PG and score abt 18 ppg and have abt 11 to 12 assist PG he will still get boards tho

Raidaz4Life
08-23-2010, 02:23 PM
:facepalm:
He will have the ball in his hands the same ammount of time, just now his Mo Williams will be Dwyane Wade. With teammates like Wade, Bosh, Miller, Chalmers, House and Chalmers he should easily get 10 assists per game and still put around 25 points per game.

If you think Dwayne Wade will play the role of a catch and shooter then you are sadly mistaken


Lebron will more than likely handle the ball 60-70% of the time max. Dwayne Wade is a superstar and the primary ball handler in the heat's offense before Lebron... there is no way he plays that much of a backseat role to Lebron.

Raidaz4Life
08-23-2010, 02:25 PM
He is point forward, who gets 30 PPG and 8.6 APG.
Do you know any point guard who can average 30 PPG and 8 APG?
My point is if he concentrated on passing, not scoring he would easily average 11-12 APG and his stats will be something like this 22 PPG and 11-12 APG.

Miami doesn't have nearly as an assist friendly system right now as Lebron had in Cleveland. Primarily because they don't have the shooters that Cleveland has. I'm not saying I expect Lebron's assists to take a nose dive because I think they will stay about the same but at the same time assists rely on having players make their shots without extensive dribbling.

Switch
08-23-2010, 02:50 PM
Stephen Curry and Darren Collison

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 02:52 PM
please keep the discussion pertaining to PG's. 2nd time I have had to mention it.

Rivera
08-23-2010, 03:07 PM
please keep the discussion pertaining to PG's. 2nd time I have had to mention it.

lay down the law hawkeye!!!!!!!! :worthy:

Kidd>>>K-Mart
08-23-2010, 03:21 PM
Devin Harris

Minimal
08-23-2010, 03:21 PM
If you think Dwayne Wade will play the role of a catch and shooter then you are sadly mistaken


Lebron will more than likely handle the ball 60-70% of the time max. Dwayne Wade is a superstar and the primary ball handler in the heat's offense before Lebron... there is no way he plays that much of a backseat role to Lebron.
You all kinda don't get my point. LeBron in Cleveland shared the ball with Mo Williams, in Miami he will share it with Wade. I don't say he will hold the ball 90% of time, I say he will hold the ball for about 60%-70% of time as he is superior passer, the same ammount of time he held the ball in Cleveland.

Rivera
08-23-2010, 03:23 PM
You all kinda don't get my point. LeBron in Cleveland shared the ball with Mo Williams, in Miami he will share it with Wade. I don't say he will hold the ball 90% of time, I say he will hold the ball for about 60%-70% of time as he is superior passer, the same ammount of time he held the ball in Cleveland.

he never shared the ball with mo

he just allowed him to shoot when passed to! lmao

lebron ran cleveland

Venomous88
08-23-2010, 03:24 PM
russel westbrook and darren collisonthis

Hawkeye15
08-23-2010, 03:25 PM
Third time is a charm...