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Baller1
08-16-2010, 02:47 PM
Some names are not even open for debate. You just unhook the velvet rope and let them walk down the red carpet. Others are like fine wine that take years to age and develop full body.



With the gold-plated careers of Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen officially enshrined and with Gus Johnson and Dennis Johnson finally recognized as members of the Class of 2010, it is the perfect time to consider how many future Hall of Famers we might be watching when the 2010-11 season tips off in October?

Stone-Cold Locks
Kobe Bryant -- There is no debate here, no discussion. He is the pre-eminent winner, the fiercest competitor in the game today. If you need numbers, just take the biggest ones -- five championships, two Finals MVP awards, eight All-NBA first team selections. He is the closest thing that exists to a 21st century Michael Jordan.

Shaquille O'Neal -- Most Dominant Ever? Certainly the most physically imposing center ever to play the game. Another no-brainer who was almost unstoppable in his prime when he combined brute strength with great moves and footwork. Four championships, three Finals MVPs, 15-time All-Star. From Superman to Shaq Fu to Diesel to the Big Aristotle to the Big Cactus to the Big Shamroq, nobody has ever combined as much on-court talent with off-court personality.

Tim Duncan -- The Big Fundamental entered the league in 1997 and almost instantly transformed the Spurs from bridesmaids into four-time champs. Nothing flashy, never noisy. Just a commitment to doing all of the little (and big) things that make a difference. Two-time MVP, three-time Finals MVP and arguably the greatest power forward of all time.

Dwyane Wade -- Even before he hit the free-agent jackpot and got his buddies LeBron James and Chris Bosh to relocate to Miami, he carried the Heat (and Shaq) to the 2006 championship, winning the Finals MVP in the process. Won scoring title in 2009 and now might just be getting warmed up.

Kevin Garnett -- Tall, long, quick, fierce, relentless. He didn't need the 2004 MVP award, 2008 Defensive Player of the Year award and an '08 championship at Boston to stamp his Hall of Fame passport, but it didn't hurt. All those years when the Timberwolves were going nowhere, he was an All-Star, All-Everything, MVP and Hall of Fame trash talker.

LeBron James -- You can hold "The Decision" against him. Despite his ungraceful exit, he gave the Cavs the best stretch of NBA success in their history, a Finals berth, winning consecutive MVP awards and leading Cleveland to the best regular-season record in the league in 2009 and 2010. His stats last season -- 29.7 points, 7.3 rebounds, 8.6 assists and 50.3 percent from the field -- were the best since Oscar Robertson. The next stop in Miami could only make him bigger.

Dirk Nowitzki -- Don't say he does not belong because he doesn't have a ring. He's done everything else, including carrying the Mavericks to the Finals in 2006 and a string of 10 consecutive 50-win seasons that is still alive. Best shooting big man in the game, he is the Big D in Big D.

Steve Nash -- Whoever expected the South African-born Canadian citizen out of Santa Clara University to do all of this? Back-to-back MVPs, four trips to the Western Conference finals, seven All-Star Games, three All-NBA first team picks. Just watch him handle the ball and run an offense and there are no questions.

Allen Iverson -- Pound for pound, maybe the toughest little dude ever to lace up a pair of sneakers. The tattoos, cornrows and drama around coaches and practice often overshadowed the splendid talent and competitor. Rookie of the Year, MVP, four-time scoring champ, 11-time All-Star and he almost-singlehandedly dragged the Sixers to the Finals in 2001.

At The Door
Manu Ginobili -- Surely, Hall voters wouldn't hold the fact that he was often the Spurs' second- or third-leading scorer against him. The Argentinian tornado has been the spice and the difference-maker in the Spurs' lineup through three championships, not to mention the worldwide success of Team Argentina.

Paul Pierce -- The Truth could have gotten frustrated and bailed out on the Celtics long before Garnett and Ray Allen rode into town. But he kept the faith and was the lead horse and Finals MVP in 2008.

Chauncey Billups -- He had to fight through four previous NBA stops before Mr. Big Shot found his place in the middle of the Pistons' magic in 2004 and was Finals MVP. Made seven straight conference finals trips with Detroit and Denver.

Jason Kidd -- Mr. Versatility is third on the all-time regular season list for triple-doubles and second in the playoffs. In short, there was nothing he couldn't do in his prime, including taking the Nets to the Finals (twice).

Ray Allen -- Second on the all-time list for 3-pointers made and closing in on Reggie Miller. At 35, he's still got the most fundamental shooting stroke in the game today.

Tony Parker -- It's a three-legged stool in San Antonio that falls over short of three championships without the flying Frenchman at the point. He gets bonus points for taking all that grief from Pop and getting stronger.

Work To Do
Dwight Howard -- Last season he became the first player in history to lead the league in rebounds, blocked shots and field goal percentage for two straight seasons. Needs to improve free throws to become a closer. But well on his way.

Chris Paul -- Without a doubt the best ball-handler in the league. He can go anyplace he wants to on the floor and get the ball to any teammate for an open shot. Only needs time to pad the resume.

Carmelo Anthony -- The high-volume shooter can definitely fill up the basket. But there's still something missing, perhaps learning to become the leader his team needs at both ends of the floor.

Pau Gasol -- More offensive skills than any other big man in the league today. If he stays close to Kobe for another handful of years, he could ride into Springfield on his coattails.

Amar'e Stoudemire -- This is when we find out about STAT now that he's the center of attention as Mr. Max Contract in New York. Were all those numbers the product of Steve Nash or can he do it alone?

Yao Ming -- Post-Steve Francis and post-Tracy McGrady, his health and how far he takes the Rockets in the next few seasons could lift him from international symbol to real ground-breaker.

Deron Williams -- Overshadowed by Steve Nash and Chris Paul in the West, finally made his All-Star debut in 2010 and might be the best all-around point guard in the league.

Brandon Roy -- Rookie of the Year (2007), three All-Star appearances in four seasons. It's already just him and Kobe among shooting guards in the West.

Tracy McGrady -- Seven-time All-Star and two-time scoring champion. But in fact, the only scoring champion in league history to have never won a single playoff series. Is there a soft, bridge-burning wing in the Hall?

Down The Road
Kevin Durant -- The youngest scoring champ in league history, an All-Star and All-NBA first team pick at 21 years old. It's K.D.'s world and we're just living in it.

Rajon Rondo -- He's gone from a questionable chink in the armor of the Big Three to driving force in the green machine and potential strongest link to the next Celtics championship.

Derrick Rose -- He can drive, he can dish, he can finish and he's just getting warmed up in a career that could put up another banner or two at the United Center.

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/fran_blinebury/08/15/future.hall.of.famers/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Hellcrooner
08-16-2010, 03:01 PM
pau is a lock interatiomal carere counts same for manu

Swashcuff
08-16-2010, 03:03 PM
Nice article

Swashcuff
08-16-2010, 03:04 PM
pau is a lock interatiomal carere counts same for manu

What has Pau accomplished individually thus far in his career to make him a lock. As you may notice only former MVPs (with the exception of Wade) are locks on that list.

ManRam
08-16-2010, 03:04 PM
Yeah. Pau is an absolute lock. Manu too. International careers matter too...and they've had amazing ones.

The only "at the door" I could see not getting in is Parker. Pierce, Allen, Kidd and Billups are musts. Maybe Billups gets snubbed...but he shouldn't IMO.

Avenged
08-16-2010, 03:11 PM
Pau is definitely a lock considering his international success which does go into account.

Kidd is also a lock at this point, no way is he "at the door".

Mikey Roxx
08-16-2010, 03:13 PM
No Grant Hill? I know injuries took away a large part of his career, but at the very least he should've been on the "At the Door" section. He was a beast his first few seasons in Detroit, then experienced a big resurgance after going to Phoenix when he was sidelined for a lot of his time in Orlando.

BOSTON617
08-16-2010, 03:28 PM
pierce and ray allen are lock to if gasol is???????

Baller1
08-16-2010, 03:39 PM
Ray Allen better get in...

Avenged
08-16-2010, 03:43 PM
Ray Allen is a HOF player, if he's not considered one right now, he will be once he retires.

The list is pretty good, and like Manram mentioned Parker might be left out but you can't deny an entrance to the Hall when you're a multiple champion and a Finals MVP.

Venomous88
08-16-2010, 03:45 PM
Pierce and Kidd are locks. Future locks include Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Dwight Howard, and Rose. If Anthony doesn't reach the Conference Finals again or lead the league in scoring, I can actually see him getting snubbed.

tredigs
08-16-2010, 03:50 PM
Pau is definitely a lock considering his international success which does go into account.

Kidd is also a lock at this point, no way is he "at the door".

This is what jumped out at me. At the door, are you kidding me? This is one of the greatest PG's of all time. I was about to lay out exactly what he does so well and why he is an absolute lock, but it would take far too long. I think that says enough.



Pierce and Kidd are locks. Future locks include Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Dwight Howard, and Rose. If Anthony doesn't reach the Conference Finals again or lead the league in scoring, I can actually see him getting snubbed.

Agree with Pierce, but these other guys have a lot to prove before they reach that level, especially D. Rose. I mean seriously, Rose a future "lock"? He has done nothing in this league to this point. People were calling Grant Hill (after 6 years of MUCH better play than Rose) a lock, so we can't get ahead of ourselves. The guy is "arguably" the FIFTH best PG in the league (for the first time), and has never won a playoff series. I'm not sure you can be any less of a future lock.

IversonIsKrazy
08-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Haha where's Chronz?? I want to see him defend Tmac like he always does. To me, Tony & Pierce should be locks as well, a Finals MVP should always be a lock for HOF.

bctgg27
08-16-2010, 03:53 PM
There is no way Kidd can be considered "At the Door". A definite lock without a doubt.

Venomous88
08-16-2010, 03:53 PM
Ray Allen is a HOF player, if he's not considered one right now, he will be once he retires.

The list is pretty good, and like Manram mentioned Parker might be left out but you can't deny an entrance to the Hall when you're a multiple champion and a Finals MVP.Ray Allen will get the Dennis Johnson treatment

shep33
08-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Jason Kidd is an absolute lock... don't understand why they'd have Nash as a lock and not Kidd, when both should be. At the very least they're even. Nash is a better scorer and offensive player than kidd yes, however, Kidd is a superior rebounder and defender to Nash. I love Steve Nash, but if you want to go by numbers, Kidd has better stats in just about everything except shooting and ppg, and if you want to go by postseason accomplishments, Kidd has been to more NBA Finals than Nash.

Careers:
Nash: 14.6 ppg 8.3 apg 3 rpg 0.8 spg
Kidd: 13.6 ppg 9.2 apg 6.6 rpg 2.0 spg

Again, both should be first ballot hall of famers, but in reference to the article, I don't get how Kidd isn't a first ballot HOFamer and Nash is. Both deserve it.

Venomous88
08-16-2010, 04:03 PM
Agree with Pierce, but these other guys have a lot to prove before they reach that level, especially D. Rose. I mean seriously, Rose a future "lock"? He has done nothing in this league to this point. People were calling Grant Hill after 6 years (of MUCH better play than Rose, so we can't get ahead of ourselves). The guy is "arguably" the FIFTH best PG in the league (for the first time), and has never won a playoff series. I'm not sure you can be any less of a future lock.Hence me saying "Future Locks". Most of the players put into the Hall of Fame have put in work going for deep runs in the playoffs and those players I listed are in the best positions to do so (with the exception of Paul, but he will eventually bolt for a better team with a lengthy career ahead of him).

Hellcrooner
08-16-2010, 04:06 PM
IMO already Locked:

Pierce.
Grnett.
Ray Allen.
Wade.
Lebron
Sheed.
Manu,.
Parker.
Duncan.
Dirk.
Kidd.
Ming.
Kobe.
Pau.
Nash.
BIllups.

Can/Will Eventually Do Enough Imo.:
Deron.
Melo.
Roy.
Durant,
Paul.
Howard.


other younger players too soon to knwo

thescore53
08-16-2010, 04:34 PM
bosh wont make it sadly. years of losing in toronto and then third option on the heat

BOSTON617
08-16-2010, 04:39 PM
IMO already Locked:

Pierce.
Grnett.
Ray Allen.
Wade.
Lebron
Sheed.
Manu,.
Parker.
Duncan.
Dirk.
Kidd.
Ming.
Kobe.
Pau.
Nash.
BIllups.

Can/Will Eventually Do Enough Imo.:
Deron.
Melo.
Roy.
Durant,
Paul.
Howard.


other younger players too soon to knwo

i dont think those two are locked yao still has time sheeed dont think so

king4day
08-16-2010, 04:48 PM
If Nash has a couple more seasons like he's been having than I don't see how he won't make it. Especially if he can help take an Amar'e-less team to the playoffs.

smith&wesson
08-16-2010, 05:02 PM
other then personal acheivments such as all star apearances what had Tmac done for his respective teams to even be considered a hall of famer??

tmac is not a hall of famer.. try winning a play off series first or staying healthy long enough to try and help them win a play off series.
I dont think talent alone gets you inducted in the hall of fame and that is all tmac really had was talent.

garnet, pierce, allen, kobe, shaq, timmie D, gino, t parker, d wade, lebron, kidd, nash, should be locks


mello, roy, durant, paul, d will, howard still need to prove theyre worthyness

shep33
08-16-2010, 05:32 PM
bosh wont make it sadly. years of losing in toronto and then third option on the heat

I agree. If he would've done more in Toronto, winning wise, he maybe could've got there. But now, I really doubt it.