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LakerMantra
08-14-2010, 03:49 AM
2009-10 All-NBA Teams
FIRST TEAM Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (122) 610 Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (107) 579 Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (122) 610 Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (119) 604 Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (81) 520

SECOND TEAM Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (9) 321 Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (10) 356 Center Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix (2) 239 Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (24) 366 Guard Deron Williams, Utah (14) 343

THIRD TEAM Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 125 Forward Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers -- 94 Center Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee -- 149 Guard Joe Johnson, Atlanta -- 118 Guard Brandon Roy, Portland -- 87

Could it be Tim Duncan??

Rosh
08-14-2010, 03:50 AM
Kobe, Nash, Duncan.

Raptor-54
08-14-2010, 03:56 AM
kobe, nash, duncan.

+1

LakerMantra
08-14-2010, 03:58 AM
Wow, Kobe? that's hilarious. Hope he wins a few more rings to shut people up.

Rosh
08-14-2010, 03:59 AM
Kobe is past his prime. That's truth. That's not to say he's still not a great player. MJ still won titles after his prime.

abe_froman
08-14-2010, 04:00 AM
kobe,nash,timmy...dirk is close

CityofChaos
08-14-2010, 04:05 AM
Joe Johnson, Nash, Kobe, Duncan and Dirk

LakerMantra
08-14-2010, 04:06 AM
Kobe is past his prime. That's truth. That's not to say he's still not a great player. MJ still won titles after his prime.

Respect the fact that you have ~20,000 posts (which is awesome) but just coz you say it aint the truth. Prime doesn't just mean stats, its being called the greatest by many to play the game in the last 3 seasons consistently. I won't make this a Kobe back and forth thread but its sick to think that prime doesn't mean leadership or contribution to win rings and not be a consistent decliner or passenger in the team. In game 7 people may think Kobe didn't contribute much but I call BS for he was able to grab 15 rebounds on a bad shooting night.

Minimal
08-14-2010, 06:55 AM
Bryant, Nash, Duncan, Nowitzki.

arlubas
08-14-2010, 08:38 AM
Respect the fact that you have ~20,000 posts (which is awesome) but just coz you say it aint the truth. Prime doesn't just mean stats, its being called the greatest by many to play the game in the last 3 seasons consistently. I won't make this a Kobe back and forth thread but its sick to think that prime doesn't mean leadership or contribution to win rings and not be a consistent decliner or passenger in the team. In game 7 people may think Kobe didn't contribute much but I call BS for he was able to grab 15 rebounds on a bad shooting night.
It's really not hard to see that Kobe isn't at his peak. Like the man said it's not like he's saying he's turned into a scrub or anything. He's still one of the best players in the league right now but he's just not the best version of himself that we've seen.

IndyRealist
08-14-2010, 09:12 AM
Most everyone realizes Kobe is past his prime. He's a step slower, he's dealing with multiple injuries, his numbers have dropped dramatically. He's still better than 99% of NBA players. Any team except maybe Miami would be crazy not to trade for him if the deal was on the table. No one's bashing Bryant (yet).

mikealike305
08-14-2010, 09:14 AM
kobe, nash, tim

mikealike305
08-14-2010, 09:16 AM
Wow, Kobe? that's hilarious. Hope he wins a few more rings to shut people up.

he's past his prime get over it

Reversed86Curse
08-14-2010, 09:22 AM
kobe, nash, tim

This plus Dirk

Raidaz4Life
08-14-2010, 09:29 AM
Dirk, Duncan, and Nash

still1ballin
08-14-2010, 03:37 PM
I don't think Kobe is "past" his prime but he is surely in the end of his prime.

Chronz
08-15-2010, 12:27 AM
Nash
Amare
Dirk
Td
Kobe
Joe johnson

lakerfan3118
08-15-2010, 12:33 AM
(Kobe's)... numbers have dropped dramatically. He's still better than 99% of NBA players.

For the sake of the argument, I wouldn't say we've seen a dramatic statistical drop-off yet from him. His numbers have fallen significantly, I would agree, but not dramatically.

Chacarron
08-15-2010, 12:37 AM
Another thread to indirectly bash Kobe.

gbrl
08-15-2010, 12:54 AM
agree with chronz list
how is saying he is not in his prime bashing him

TehSamurai
08-15-2010, 12:56 AM
Nash, Dirk, Kobe and Duncan.

uprightciti
08-15-2010, 12:56 AM
Durant, howard, roy, bogut are the only players not past there prime...roy is pushin it

The Prodigy
08-15-2010, 01:01 AM
Respect the fact that you have ~20,000 posts (which is awesome) but just coz you say it aint the truth. Prime doesn't just mean stats, its being called the greatest by many to play the game in the last 3 seasons consistently. I won't make this a Kobe back and forth thread but its sick to think that prime doesn't mean leadership or contribution to win rings and not be a consistent decliner or passenger in the team. In game 7 people may think Kobe didn't contribute much but I call BS for he was able to grab 15 rebounds on a bad shooting night.

Umm how do I say this without being mean...Do you have any idea what the word prime means in sports?

TehSamurai
08-15-2010, 01:02 AM
Kobe nutriders, past his prime does not mean bad. If you think Kobe now is as good as he was in 2006, I don't know what to say.

The Prodigy
08-15-2010, 01:03 AM
Nash
Amare
Dirk
Td
Kobe
Joe johnson

Perfect list right here and I hope no one disagrees with this list.

THE MTL
08-15-2010, 01:12 AM
People can argue all day who's better Lebron or Kobe. But during this season, there will no longer be an argument. It will be clear that Lebron is better. (not saying Kobe isnt GREAT) But he is no longer at the height of his career.

THE MTL
08-15-2010, 01:16 AM
Tim Duncan is def past his prime. But I would say Kobe and Nash are at the end of their prime.

Steve Nash actually had one of his best seasons!!!!! 50% FG-43% 3pt-94% FT- 16.5ppg 11apg

Gators123
08-15-2010, 01:16 AM
Nash
Amare
Dirk
Td
Kobe
Joe johnson

Agree with this. All still great players though.

The Prodigy
08-15-2010, 01:19 AM
People can argue all day who's better Lebron or Kobe. But during this season, there will no longer be an argument. It will be clear that Lebron is better. (not saying Kobe isnt GREAT) But he is no longer at the height of his career.

I don't think Kobe is even the 2nd best player anymore. I think people are just obsessed with the rings then to realize that he isn't the same player he was about 2 years ago.

BringMeKG
08-15-2010, 01:37 AM
I can't believe no one here said Wade!!! Wade hasn't done anything in 3 years. He will never be as good as he was the year he won the ring.

Tim Duncan
Wade

Kobe is still in his prime. Just because he changed how he scores doesn't mean he isn't playing the best basketball of his career.

_KB24_
08-15-2010, 01:41 AM
How can Kobe be past his prime when many say that now he has mastered the game? He may not be at his prime physically , but he mentally and fundamentally, he is at the top of his game, the prime of his game.

The Prodigy
08-15-2010, 02:46 AM
I can't believe no one here said Wade!!! Wade hasn't done anything in 3 years. He will never be as good as he was the year he won the ring.

Tim Duncan
Wade

Kobe is still in his prime. Just because he changed how he scores doesn't mean he isn't playing the best basketball of his career.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

tredigs
08-15-2010, 02:50 AM
I can't believe no one here said Wade!!! Wade hasn't done anything in 3 years. He will never be as good as he was the year he won the ring.

Tim Duncan
Wade

Kobe is still in his prime. Just because he changed how he scores doesn't mean he isn't playing the best basketball of his career.

You say this about the guy who just put up 33pts 6reb 7ast on 56% shooting against the Celtics in the playoffs this year even though their one objective was to try to shut him down? Did a lot better than Kobe was able to do against that team (with less pressure on him than Wade faced), that's for sure. Dude's 28, he is in his prime - and you are high.

DreamShaker
08-15-2010, 04:04 AM
Durant, howard, roy, bogut are the only players not past there prime...roy is pushin it

Are you talking past their prime or saying that they have peaked?

Minimal
08-15-2010, 04:10 AM
Only some Lakers fans think Kobe is not behind his prime.

tredigs
08-15-2010, 04:46 AM
Only some Lakers fans think Kobe is not behind his prime.

He's past his physical prime, but he's adapted his game enough that he's nearly just as productive as he's always been. So yeah technically he is past it, but so far it has not really mattered - and with all the extra rest he's getting this summer, I have a feeling he'll be strong again in 2011.

Swashcuff
08-15-2010, 05:38 AM
^^^^ I 100% agree. Kobe may no longer be at his peak, he may no longer be in his "prime" but what he is able to do with what he has is simply amazing. I mean this can be said for any player in the NBA but can you imagine what he would have been able to do had he not have all the different injuries.

Swashcuff
08-15-2010, 05:40 AM
I can't believe no one here said Wade!!! Wade hasn't done anything in 3 years. He will never be as good as he was the year he won the ring.

Tim Duncan
Wade

Kobe is still in his prime. Just because he changed how he scores doesn't mean he isn't playing the best basketball of his career.

You OBVIOUSLY have no clue what NBA Basketball is.

:facepalm: of the day goes to you.

championships
08-15-2010, 05:52 AM
I don't think Kobe is even the 2nd best player anymore. I think people are just obsessed with the rings then to realize that he isn't the same player he was about 2 years ago.

U Mad?

Khalifa21
08-15-2010, 06:49 AM
Kobe, Dirk, Nash, Duncan

Cap'nCrunch40
08-15-2010, 09:15 AM
Duncan is the most past their prime, but Nash is behind him. Nash > Duncan at the moment.

Rafer17
08-15-2010, 12:32 PM
2009-10 All-NBA Teams
FIRST TEAM Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (122) 610 Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (107) 579 Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (122) 610 Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (119) 604 Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (81) 520

SECOND TEAM Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (9) 321 Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (10) 356 Center Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix (2) 239 Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (24) 366 Guard Deron Williams, Utah (14) 343

THIRD TEAM Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 125 Forward Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers -- 94 Center Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee -- 149 Guard Joe Johnson, Atlanta -- 118 Guard Brandon Roy, Portland -- 87

Being past your prime doesnt mean your bad...

Swashcuff
08-15-2010, 12:37 PM
2009-10 All-NBA Teams
FIRST TEAM Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (122) 610 Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (107) 579 Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (122) 610 Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (119) 604 Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (81) 520

SECOND TEAM Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (9) 321 Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (10) 356 Center Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix (2) 239 Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (24) 366 Guard Deron Williams, Utah (14) 343

THIRD TEAM Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 125 Forward Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers -- 94 Center Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee -- 149 Guard Joe Johnson, Atlanta -- 118 Guard Brandon Roy, Portland -- 87

Being past your prime doesnt mean your bad...

you know what I agree with you on this

Amar'e is past his prime.... not due to age, not due to production but due to knee. HE IS STILL VERY GOOD but he lost a step from his pre injury days and is not as explosive now as he was then. The only people who'd likely defend that statement is Knicks fan but guess what its the truth.

DoJoTheSlasher
08-15-2010, 02:10 PM
Kobe won't score 35+ regularly but as a teammate, he is soooo much better. Past his prime? He is still the best in the game. If he is past his prime and still #1, it proves he is top 5 of all time easily.

Nash, Duncan are past their primes but still all stars.