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dnewguy
08-09-2010, 08:00 PM
Chicago Bulls center Joakim Noah wants to sign a long-term deal with the team and hopes to have one done before the season begins in October.

Noah said his agent, Donald Dell, has already started discussing the parameters of a deal with Bulls general manager Gar Forman and the 25-year-old is confident the parties can work something out in the near future.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5448087


How much do you think he's worth? Noah seems like a clone of Denis Rodman in his prime, but he's a better scorer than Rodman.

dnewguy
08-09-2010, 08:01 PM
i'd say he's worth 10-12 mill/season IMO.

HuRRiCaNeS324
08-09-2010, 08:02 PM
So youre saying hes basically better than Rodman? Wow....

What?
08-09-2010, 08:02 PM
He's probably going to get something like 5yr 55m

IversonIsKrazy
08-09-2010, 08:03 PM
I would say $9m - $11m yearly. I hope it's something like 6yrs/$60m

ManRam
08-09-2010, 08:03 PM
I'd give him 12 million per. I would prefer not to, maybe 9-10, but if I'm looking to re-sign him and want to keep him, I would go up to 12.

DoJoTheSlasher
08-09-2010, 08:04 PM
10mil a year

dnewguy
08-09-2010, 08:04 PM
So youre saying hes basically better than Rodman? Wow....

He has that potential to be better....I see him averaging 15 rebounds/gm if he's getting 35 mins/gm.

DoJoTheSlasher
08-09-2010, 08:05 PM
He has that potential to be better....I see him averaging 15 rebounds/gm if he's getting 35 mins/gm.

Howard doesn't get 15 rpg with those minutes.

TheWatcher34
08-09-2010, 08:06 PM
a bag of chronic...

justinnum1
08-09-2010, 08:07 PM
5/55

Raidaz4Life
08-09-2010, 08:08 PM
I'd give him a 5 year 45 mil contract.

TheTakeOver24
08-09-2010, 08:08 PM
I'd say 9 mill per year 5 years for 45m...

IamKaiserSoze
08-09-2010, 08:09 PM
a bag of chronic...

i get the feeling noah already has that

D Roses Bulls
08-09-2010, 08:09 PM
about 12 million a year I would say

hgtiger32
08-09-2010, 08:10 PM
he's worth whatever his favorite city of cleveland is worth now, without LeBron...

Beltrans Mole
08-09-2010, 08:10 PM
Two doll-hairs.

Ovratd1up
08-09-2010, 08:11 PM
$8-12m. He could easily get $11m per, but since it seems like he is trying to rush a contract, I think he might get something like 4yr/$38m, or 3yr/$27m.

dnewguy
08-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Howard doesn't get 15 rpg with those minutes.

I think he has the potential to be a better rebounder than Howard, I actually think he'll be the rebound champ this coming season.

John Walls Era
08-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Isn't he only a 10 and 10 guy? But hes a very solid defender. I say about 9 - 11 mill.

Scarface-Bulls
08-09-2010, 08:15 PM
Isn't he only a 10 and 10 guy? But hes a very solid defender. I say about 9 - 11 mill.

There's not that many double doulbe guys in the league and while D-Rose is the leader of the Bulls, Joakim Noah is the heart and sould of the team.

Scarface-Bulls
08-09-2010, 08:16 PM
There's not that many double doulbe guys in the league and while D-Rose is the leader of the Bulls, Joakim Noah is the heart and sould of the team.

I gotta stop drinking too many mispelled words. double double and soul

pacofunk64
08-09-2010, 08:18 PM
9-11 mil a year seems to be about right...he plays good D, he still has room to grow, and he has heart.

Hiphopopotamus
08-09-2010, 08:19 PM
He's probably going to get something like 5yr 55m

this. also your list of pgs better than rose makes you look stupid.

magichatnumber9
08-09-2010, 08:19 PM
A bag of weed and a cheeseburger.

Corey
08-09-2010, 08:20 PM
What does he DESERVE? Somewhere around 8, 9 at the most per year.

What will he get? Probably 12 in this NBA market.

yuoke
08-09-2010, 08:21 PM
Why does it seem like everyday there is a question regarding the bulls that could bring criticizing comments.

Hiphopopotamus
08-09-2010, 08:22 PM
A bag of weed and a cheeseburger.

Sold!

Oakley's Fist
08-09-2010, 08:23 PM
5 years 50 mil.

Ovratd1up
08-09-2010, 08:24 PM
Isn't he only a 10 and 10 guy? But hes a very solid defender. I say about 9 - 11 mill.

He put up 11/11 in only 30 mpg this year because of injury (was more than 12/12 before and after) and he is a very good shot blocker, super active and gets some steals, and is a good passer and ball handler for a big man. He runs the floor very well and always steps up when it counts (playoffs), and is only improving his offensive game and putting on pounds in the offseason.

Scarface-Bulls
08-09-2010, 08:27 PM
Only 9 players had double doubles last year

Dwight Howard,
Joakim Noah
Zach Randolph,
David Lee,
Carlos Boozer,
Chris Bosh,
Troy Murphy,
Tim Duncan
Gerald Wallace

SA5195
08-09-2010, 08:28 PM
He'll get about 50-60mill.

Shahrose
08-09-2010, 08:28 PM
this. also your list of pgs better than rose makes you look stupid.

hahaha u not reading makes u look stupid
he quoted Wade>You for saying that :facepalm:

but yea i gotta agree, i see him getting 5yr/45-55m

NewSoxDynasty
08-09-2010, 08:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5448087


How much do you think he's worth? Noah seems like a clone of Denis Rodman in his prime, but he's a better scorer than Rodman.

okay... Let's compare the two players in several categories and determine who is better.

Rodman vs Noah

Rebounding

Rodman >>> Noah

Noah might pull down 10 rbs per game but Rodman frequently pulled down 20. Rodman was the best rebounding pf in history. This one, as good as Noah is... isn't even close.

Defense

Rodman > Noah

Rodman defended Shaq when Shaq was in his prime and gave Shaq fits. (Rodman pf Shaq C) Noah is a great shot blocker and overall is an excellent defender but he has to play about 10 more seasons at a high level and make the NBA all defensive team about 7 times before this becomes a reasonable debate.

Offense

Noah = Rodman

Rodman was often focused on doing the dirty work and didn't seem overly motivated to score. It should be noted though, that during the Bulls 72 win season he was counted on to be the primary scoring option while Jordan and Pippen both missed a game with injury and he stepped up by scoring 21 pts with a triple double. However if you look at his career scoring average you can see that scoring was clearly not his priority. Noah is not a dynamic offensive player but is a solid 10-12 pt scorer every night. Their offensive output is similar. I'll say they are equal offensively.

Attitude

Rodman > Noah

He must hold the NBA all time record for technical fouls and ejections. Noah is an emotional player and will play dirty but no one was as dirty as Rodman. Once, Rodman grabbed the loose string on an opposing players shorts while they were at the free throw line. When the player started running down the court their shorts began to unravel. Priceless. He got inside opposing players heads... even camera men knew not to mess with him. ;) The thing I remember most about Rodman was his signature move... taking off his jersey and throwing it into the crowd. How much of his salary went towards fines anyway?

Best Dressed

Noah>>>>>Rodman

Clearly Noah has the edge. Sorry Rodman, but that wedding dress just doesn't work for you. If reality TV was as popular then as it is now, he could have been a guest on "Queer Eye for the Ambiguously Straight Guy." Honestly, I'm pretty sure he's straight but I'm still not sure... not that anyone cares... I'm just sayin.

Shahrose
08-09-2010, 08:29 PM
I think he has the potential to be a better rebounder than Howard, I actually think he'll be the rebound champ this coming season.

I think Noah is a GREAT rebounder, but i dont think his numebrs will go up b/c of the addition of boozer :shrug:

Scarface-Bulls
08-09-2010, 08:31 PM
I bet u Boozer and Noah r going to have side bets to see who gets more rebounds...both have averaged about 11 ppg should be fun.

tredigs
08-09-2010, 08:31 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5448087


How much do you think he's worth? Noah seems like a clone of Denis Rodman in his prime, but he's a better scorer than Rodman.

They're definitely a different team without Noah; went 0-10 in that last 10 game stretch without him this season (6-12 overall). And he really is a rebounding machine when healthy (the 11 per game he averaged is a lowball because there were a chunk of games where he played less than 20 minutes when he was dealing with the planter fasc), but with Boozer in town I don't see him pulling down ~15 a game. 12pts 13rbs and 2+ blocks a game seems fair though. He's worth 10+ a year.

I think him or D. Lee (if Nellie is still coaching) take the rebounding title from Howard this year - for what it's worth.

Hiphopopotamus
08-09-2010, 08:32 PM
hahaha u not reading makes u look stupid
he quoted Wade>You for saying that :facepalm:

but yea i gotta agree, i see him getting 5yr/45-55m

Yeah I see that now. Sorry What? for my comment. But dude, "hahaha" what is that? Anyway What? I did misread that.

Shahrose
08-09-2010, 08:33 PM
Yeah I see that now. Sorry What? for my comment. But dude, "hahaha" what is that? Anyway What? I did misread that.

hahaha is a laugh
like that :laugh2:

Hiphopopotamus
08-09-2010, 08:34 PM
ok....

Mr Moody
08-09-2010, 08:34 PM
I say 5yrs/42 mil

edison_yia
08-09-2010, 08:35 PM
he is worth 5 years 60 minllion, should get more than varajao

Khalifa21
08-09-2010, 08:38 PM
I'm kinda surprised at people saying he's worth $12m per. That's only $4m off a max.

I'd say he's worth $9-10m a year max.

Catfish1314
08-09-2010, 08:43 PM
At least 11M a year and probably closer to 12 or 13. Good, young big men don't go for cheap in the NBA. Brendan Haywood, Samuel Dalembert, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Emeka Okafor, Brad Miller, etc. all got huge deals when they were about Noah's age and Jo is as good or better than any of those guys were then.

tredigs
08-09-2010, 08:48 PM
I'm kinda surprised at people saying he's worth $12m per. That's only $4m off a max.

I'd say he's worth $9-10m a year max.

He's a very good young center dude - and there aren't that many of them out there. I had him on my fantasy squad last season, and when he was healthy I didn't bat an eyelash when he put up lines like 15 pts 16 rebs and 4blks a game.

He's also a ferocious competitor, and literally got better as the season went on (despite the injury). As long as he's gotten rid of that planter fasc completely (which he should have over the summer), he's going to be a beast going forward. To be honest in a lot of ways I'd rather have him and his competitive drive + elite defense/rebounding than Amare.

Niro
08-09-2010, 08:49 PM
i think 12 is too much

9 sounds about right

John Walls Era
08-09-2010, 09:01 PM
Only 9 players had double doubles last year

Dwight Howard,
Joakim Noah
Zach Randolph,
David Lee,
Carlos Boozer,
Chris Bosh,
Troy Murphy,
Tim Duncan
Gerald Wallace

Wrong because a few PGs would've made the list. But I know what you mean.

I remember when getting a double double and playing good D was suppose to be every C job.

ChiSox219
08-09-2010, 09:05 PM
I'm kinda surprised at people saying he's worth $12m per. That's only $4m off a max.

I'd say he's worth $9-10m a year max.

Max Noah can get is $13,603,750


Bulls should wait until after the '10-11 season to extend Noah. No reason to give him $10m+ right now when you can match any offer he receives anyway and there's a chance the salary structures will change dramatically after the season, especially for young players.

DeShaun Brown
08-09-2010, 09:07 PM
By the current collective bargaining agreement, he's worth about $10 mil a year. However, if there's any truth to the rumors that player salaries will be lowered in the next agreement, then he may end up being overpaid.

29$JerZ
08-09-2010, 09:07 PM
8-9 million imo as of now, if he continues to improve this season he'll easily be worth a 10 million dollar contract per year. Centers get overpaid though so I expect 5yr 12 million annually.

DeShaun Brown
08-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Max Noah can get is $13,603,750


Bulls should wait until after the '10-11 season to extend Noah. No reason to give him $10m+ right now when you can match any offer he receives anyway and there's a chance the salary structures will change dramatically after the season, especially for young players.

I think that would be a huge mistake because another team would purposely overpay him or add a poison pill so that even if we do match, it will hurt (i. e. J. J. Reddick).

What?
08-09-2010, 09:14 PM
this. also your list of pgs better than rose makes you look stupid.

Just noticed you realized your mistake

R. Johnson#3
08-09-2010, 09:18 PM
I have a man crush on Noah and was hoping that somehow a S&T would've been done involving him and Bosh. The guy is a filthy banger and he can put up 15 points too. Give him 5 years 10-12 mil per.

DCSportsIsPain
08-09-2010, 09:19 PM
About the same contract Dallas just gave Brendan Haywood.

heattiltheend94
08-09-2010, 09:21 PM
He's probably going to get something like 5yr 55m

that sounds about right

CubsFanBudMan#1
08-09-2010, 09:31 PM
5 yrs 55 mil would be similar to what Tyson Chandler signed with the Bulls so id expect that type of offer.

Coheed
08-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Two doll-hairs.

lmao!:clap:

9-10 sounds bout right... Deng should donate some of his salary

Kakaroach
08-09-2010, 09:38 PM
9-10 seems reasonable, even though the Bulls can match any offer anyway and if Noah continues to play at the level he did last year he could get a max offer from someone. So it might be wise to lock him up this year.

69centers
08-09-2010, 09:53 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5448087


How much do you think he's worth? Noah seems like a clone of Denis Rodman in his prime, but he's a better scorer than Rodman.

You lost me at "clone of Rodman". No way is Noah anywhere close to the tenacious rebounder that Rodman was. Will never be either.

D1JM
08-09-2010, 10:00 PM
9-10 seems reasonable, even though the Bulls can match any offer anyway and if Noah continues to play at the level he did last year he could get a max offer from someone. So it might be wise to lock him up this year.

finally someone with the right answer.

fire2last
08-09-2010, 10:06 PM
8 million a year would buy a lot of bananas.

chisoxfan99
08-09-2010, 10:09 PM
Through his first 3 years compared to Rodman's first 3 years stats are pretty close. I'd give him 9 a year for 5 years.

Turtle55
08-09-2010, 10:11 PM
I cringed when I saw this thread in the NBA forum because I expected crazy Noah hate. I've been pleasantly surprised at how little of that I've seen. Most of the posters are right he should get around 11 million per year with the market what it is for big men. If Aldridge got what he got then a big guy who actually can defend and rebound dominantly should be worth at least around 11.

Shammyguy3
08-09-2010, 10:20 PM
What Turtle said^

ChiSox219
08-09-2010, 10:20 PM
I think that would be a huge mistake because another team would purposely overpay him or add a poison pill so that even if we do match, it will hurt (i. e. J. J. Reddick).

Poison Pill applies regardless of us having to match or just flat out signing him. PPP applies to players traded before their new contract starts. So say the Bulls sign Noah now and for some reason want to trade him during the upcoming season. His trade salary will be the average of this year plus his extension to the team acquiring him.

If we don't re-sign him until next year there is no PPP to worry about if I'm not mistaken.



Also, if we talking about starting Noah off at $12 million, there's a good chance the Max for a player of his service time will drop below that $13.6m number I quoted. So, even if a team offers him the Max, it might not be any more than we are looking at paying him now and it could even be less.

Mainly, I'm just worried about Noah's motivation once he gets paid, I'd like to wait another year and see if he takes that next step so many are expecting, because if he doesn't, he isn't worth $12m+

Shammyguy3
08-09-2010, 10:24 PM
Noah's main priority is winning...not getting paid. Of course he wants a fair deal, but he knows what Rose and he want to do more than get paid- get rings.

29$JerZ
08-09-2010, 10:25 PM
I cringed when I saw this thread in the NBA forum because I expected crazy Noah hate. I've been pleasantly surprised at how little of that I've seen. Most of the posters are right he should get around 11 million per year with the market what it is for big men. If Aldridge got what he got then a big guy who actually can defend and rebound dominantly should be worth at least around 11.

Noah is overrated by most Chicago fans but every team does it. Difference is Centers will get overpaid if they play defense, get double doubles,etc. That's why Noah will get a double figure deal and why guys like Lee/Zach who are always capable of double doubles get those deals.

ChiSox219
08-09-2010, 10:26 PM
Noah's main priority is winning...not getting paid. Of course he wants a fair deal, but he knows what Rose and he want to do more than get paid- get rings.

How do you know this?

MJ-BULLS
08-09-2010, 10:27 PM
I cringed when I saw this thread in the NBA forum because I expected crazy Noah hate. I've been pleasantly surprised at how little of that I've seen. Most of the posters are right he should get around 11 million per year with the market what it is for big men. If Aldridge got what he got then a big guy who actually can defend and rebound dominantly should be worth at least around 11.

same here.

id say noah will get 10 mil per year 5 year contract.

its hard finding good centers now and days.

Shammyguy3
08-09-2010, 10:32 PM
How do you know this?

It's mostly a blind-faith type of thing. But, he's always been a privileged guy because of his parents. He knows the lifestyle already... he knows what it is to win a college championship, but an NBA ring is a whole other story.

Jewelz0376
08-09-2010, 10:34 PM
Ben Wallace got 4 years 60 mil a few years back... Noah can probably get about 5 yrs 60 mil...

Mplsman
08-09-2010, 10:34 PM
I agree with the $10 mil. That should lock him down.

goose15
08-09-2010, 10:35 PM
45 million doll hairs

OG "Dee" LOCc
08-09-2010, 10:46 PM
1 BILLION DOLLARS

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.JPG

JiffyMix88
08-09-2010, 10:47 PM
He's worth a small childs life!

justinnum1
08-09-2010, 10:48 PM
I see noah becoming more injury prone as his career continues. I would be hesitant about giving him a long term contract.

beasted86
08-09-2010, 10:52 PM
He's not worth more than $9M, but big men get overpaid.

The ridiculous thing is that there are only 3-4 teams that will have that kind of cap space. Basically they will bid against themselves.

justinnum1
08-09-2010, 10:57 PM
vHe is going to have an extension before he ever hits the market

tredigs
08-09-2010, 11:04 PM
He's not worth more than $9M, but big men get overpaid.

The ridiculous thing is that there are only 3-4 teams that will have that kind of cap space. Basically they will bid against themselves.

Got guys like Vince Carter, Rashard Lewis and Elton Brand making 18-23 million a year - I'd be more than happy locking down Noah for 11 if I'm a Bulls fan.


I see noah becoming more injury prone as his career continues. I would be hesitant about giving him a long term contract.

Any reason for this?

zambo4president
08-09-2010, 11:05 PM
Money wise? Uhh for the Bulls i imagine a discount atleast somewhat. He'll be like a $10-13 Million dollar man. A season of course.

JiffyMix88
08-09-2010, 11:11 PM
I see noah becoming more injury prone as his career continues. I would be hesitant about giving him a long term contract.

lol y is that? because he had one injury? ok i guess bosh will be more injury prone since all he did was break his face but had to sit out the rest of the season to watch toronto not make the playoffs even though he was givin the ok to play.....

Wade>You
08-09-2010, 11:24 PM
The Bulls FO thinks highly of this guy. They weren't willing to package him in a trade that could allow them to land Wade, Bosh, James.

BkOriginalOne
08-09-2010, 11:27 PM
9-11 a year.
Like a Tyson Chandler deal.

cowboyz180
08-09-2010, 11:32 PM
5 yr 55 mil

netsgiantsyanks
08-09-2010, 11:35 PM
a big bag of ruffles, a bottle of vodka, chronic, and some chocolate chip cookies

Scarface-Bulls
08-09-2010, 11:41 PM
Joakim noah is one of 9 playes to average a double double

Scarface-Bulls
08-09-2010, 11:43 PM
any team would want Noah so don't be hating

Ovratd1up
08-09-2010, 11:44 PM
a big bag of ruffles, a bottle of vodka, chronic, and some chocolate chip cookies

He's a nice young Center, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

C_Mund
08-09-2010, 11:58 PM
a big bag of ruffles, a bottle of vodka, chronic, and some chocolate chip cookies

I'm not an NBA gm, but this is an incredibly intriguing package

TheHoopsProphet
08-10-2010, 12:05 AM
he's worth whatever his favorite city of cleveland is worth now, without LeBron...

this doesnt even make sense

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 12:06 AM
a big bag of ruffles, a bottle of vodka, chronic, and some chocolate chip cookies

This lol. I'm sure he'll take that to

The Flash
08-10-2010, 12:12 AM
vet minnimum

VinceCarter
08-10-2010, 12:17 AM
A bag of weed and a cheeseburger.

Who are you paying Michael Beasley?

Rafer17
08-10-2010, 12:18 AM
Extreme Makeover, dude isnt easy to look at

mynameismo
08-10-2010, 12:22 AM
9-11M a year. The thing is, he hasn't peaked yet. We haven't seen him play besides a good PF yet.. (We will soon) ..so I'll settle for a 9-11M for now. But we'll see how much he improves this coming season.

JOSKOMANG4
08-10-2010, 12:26 AM
I think, at most, he's worth 5yr 50mill.

FrenchSunsFan
08-10-2010, 12:30 AM
9 millions by year4 captain jook

RCarlson85
08-10-2010, 12:37 AM
a big bag of ruffles, a bottle of vodka, chronic, and some chocolate chip cookies

LOL! I would sign if they substituted cheetos for ruffles and made sure the chocolate chip cookies were from subway.

koreancabbage
08-10-2010, 01:03 AM
10 million per MAX

he's an energy guy and can rebound and play above average defense, but he's very one dimensional

CubsFanBudMan#1
08-10-2010, 01:06 AM
I see noah becoming more injury prone as his career continues. I would be hesitant about giving him a long term contract.

Based on what? he had plantar fiscitis, excuse the spelling, but thats it, and thats not a serious injury its common among athletes. You should be more worried about Wades knees.

Catfish1314
08-10-2010, 01:11 AM
I see noah becoming more injury prone as his career continues. I would be hesitant about giving him a long term contract.

I see Chris Bosh becoming more injury prone as his career continues. I see Dwyane Wade missing all of next season with a torn PCL.

What else do you see in your magical crystal ball? See how ridiculous that sounds. If you think Noah is going to be an injury prone player at least have some foundation for it.

spreadeagle
08-10-2010, 01:21 AM
Based on what? he had plantar fiscitis, excuse the spelling, but thats it, and thats not a serious injury its common among athletes. You should be more worried about Wades knees.

Nah ive had some plantar fascititis off and on for a few years and it sucks..feels like your walking on pins and needles,really bad near the heal..it comes and goes, makes it real uncomfortable to walk.Not the end of the world but something that will be ongoing with him im sure...If Bulls are as good as ppl think there gunna be with him then pay the man..if they are not as good as some ppl think this deal could look bad in a few years if its around the 10 mil a yr range.Anderson Verejoa comes to mind.But they have no choice they have there team in place and looks good on paper.time to lock up your players and go with it

Wade>You
08-10-2010, 05:55 AM
a big bag of ruffles, a bottle of vodka, chronic, and some chocolate chip cookiesWe're talking about his worth, not his diet.

Rosh
08-10-2010, 06:02 AM
I think he has the potential to be a better rebounder than Howard, I actually think he'll be the rebound champ this coming season.

I don't think so. Noah is now playing alongside Boozer, who's a great rebounder himself. He also has to play with Gibson and Deng, who are solid rebounders themselves. I don't think there will be enough boards for Noah to claim as his own for him to nab the rebounding crown.

D Roses Bulls
08-10-2010, 06:23 AM
I don't think so. Noah is now playing alongside Boozer, who's a great rebounder himself. He also has to play with Gibson and Deng, who are solid rebounders themselves. I don't think there will be enough boards for Noah to claim as his own for him to nab the rebounding crown.

please switch the avatar....... No pokemon...... it's ruined my image of you :(

Wade>You
08-10-2010, 06:39 AM
I think Noah's worth just as much as Deng, if not more for being a Center that can get a double-double. I expect the Bulls FO to make him a ridiculous contract offer to keep him from testing FA.

Minimal
08-10-2010, 06:55 AM
9-11 Millions/Year

J-Relo
08-10-2010, 07:15 AM
How much do you think he's worth? Noah seems like a clone of Denis Rodman in his prime, but he's a better scorer than Rodman.

HAHAhaha hahaha hahahahahhahahaha :D

NOT.

45 per 5y. worth no more. but may get more

monty77
08-10-2010, 07:16 AM
I'd give him a 5 year 45 mil contract.

x2

YoungOne
08-10-2010, 07:37 AM
wow... why would everyone give him 10 mil a year? ... i wouldnt give him more then 5 years 40 mil

now with boozer in town he will always play out of position...

JasonJohnHorn
08-10-2010, 08:05 AM
I don't think you could put a price on any human life.

S-Dot
08-10-2010, 08:22 AM
I'd say 9 mill per year 5 years for 45m...

this. 10 mil a year at most. His personality adds value to his game.

Foye
08-10-2010, 08:25 AM
Only 9 players had double doubles last year

Dwight Howard,
Joakim Noah
Zach Randolph,
David Lee,
Carlos Boozer,
Chris Bosh,
Troy Murphy,
Tim Duncan
Gerald Wallace

Kevin Love says hi.

55/5 is what he will get. 45 is probably what he should get.

The Miami Cheat
08-10-2010, 08:29 AM
wow... why would everyone give him 10 mil a year? ... i wouldnt give him more then 5 years 40 mil

now with boozer in town he will always play out of position...

^^ this

kobebabe
08-10-2010, 08:31 AM
5 yrs /55 m

beasted86
08-10-2010, 09:13 AM
Got guys like Vince Carter, Rashard Lewis and Elton Brand making 18-23 million a year - I'd be more than happy locking down Noah for 11 if I'm a Bulls fan.



Just because those guys are overpaid doesn't mean you should add another overpaid player in the NBA. There is a fundamental problem with the logic between GMs... there's absolutely nothing wrong with the CBA. It's the GMs who can't use their brain.

Noah isn't worth more than $9M. If he'd rather go play for the teams with cap space like Minnesota, Cleveland, or Indiana, who are willing to pay more than $9M, so be it. Chicago would be better suited going after one of the numerous Centers available next summer if Noah wants to threaten to leave: Horford, Nene, M. Gasol, Oden, Dalembert, Chandler.

There are too many talented Centers available for GMs to get stupid with contracts and get strongarmed into a bad deal. S&T to get another Center

HowFit
08-10-2010, 09:49 AM
I would say 6/60...

97NYer
08-10-2010, 09:55 AM
6 years 48 mil.

heattiltheend94
08-10-2010, 10:03 AM
Kevin Love says hi.

Let's not forget point guards. Paul, Nash, and Williams got double doubles too.

ImNotNotorious
08-10-2010, 10:06 AM
4-6mil per

he's nothing more than an overhyped energy role player

xbrackattackx
08-10-2010, 10:17 AM
He's worth about 7-8 a season but with the lack of big's that can actually play. I would say he will get about 11 per.

minervamob
08-10-2010, 10:25 AM
Same deal we gave tyson chandler should apply with Noah

Shammyguy3
08-10-2010, 10:31 AM
4-6mil per

he's nothing more than an overhyped energy role player

That energy player you're talking about had a total rebound % of 20.4% last season to go with a DRtg of 101, Defensive Win shares of 3.5. He also had a ts% of 55.7% while playing hurt. He had a PER of 17.9. His defensive numbers are comparable to Bynum, who had a trb% of 15.3%, a DRtg of 102, and defensive win shares of 3.4.

Bynum is the better offensive player of course...but, i'm just saying, he's much more than what you give him credit for.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 10:34 AM
7-9 a year

Raoul Duke
08-10-2010, 10:38 AM
Whats the max that he's eligible for?

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 10:46 AM
Whats the max that he's eligible for?

not to sure.... doesnt matter tho... he wont get a MAX

Brooklyn Mets
08-10-2010, 11:14 AM
5yr/50mil..

IndyRealist
08-10-2010, 11:35 AM
Max Noah can get is $13,603,750


Bulls should wait until after the '10-11 season to extend Noah. No reason to give him $10m+ right now when you can match any offer he receives anyway and there's a chance the salary structures will change dramatically after the season, especially for young players.

That's why Noah is trying to lock up an extension now, because he won't be able to get that kind of money after the new CBA. The Bulls should extend him now because 1) it will keep him happy, and they're not getting back to the playoffs if he's tanking, and 2) they might do away with restricted free agency next year. If they do, then Noah can go anywhere he wants, and the Bulls won't have the option to retain him. And he certainly won't be happy that they didn't give him that extension he wanted.

VinceCarter
08-10-2010, 01:46 PM
please switch the avatar....... No pokemon...... it's ruined my image of you :(

NO. That's ****ing hilarious...Charmoderator! :laugh2:

idrinkpepsi
08-10-2010, 01:49 PM
4 years 32 million

DaBUU
08-10-2010, 01:51 PM
5 yrs/55 Mil

kozelkid
08-10-2010, 01:55 PM
I'm kinda surprised at people saying he's worth $12m per. That's only $4m off a max.

I'd say he's worth $9-10m a year max.

I hope he gets 9-10, but I expect closer to 11.

kEviN21
08-10-2010, 02:07 PM
Noah can score? lol more like get tip ins and put backs and a few occasional dunks...5/50

Tulanehockey
08-10-2010, 02:08 PM
Considering the Bulls gave Eddie Curry and Tyson Chandler 10 mil per year, Noah should be making 13.

jp611
08-10-2010, 02:11 PM
shouldnt be too hard to get this guy signed... hes been rich his whole life and he loves playing for the bulls, i would say he gets around 9-11 mil per year

netsgiantsyanks
08-10-2010, 02:16 PM
We're talking about his worth, not his diet.

but who would turn down chocolate chip cookies??? AND ruffles?? i'd damn sure wouldnt :up:

DaoudS
08-10-2010, 02:37 PM
If his agent was smart he would start at Bargnani's deal as the absolute minimum. 10 mil/yr. But I think he gets any where from 12 - 15 mil.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 02:42 PM
but who would turn down chocolate chip cookies??? AND ruffles?? i'd damn sure wouldnt :up:

throw in a cup or milk..... dip.... and good chronic and thats a deal

mwoodri
08-10-2010, 02:42 PM
Only 9 players had double doubles last year

Dwight Howard,
Joakim Noah
Zach Randolph,
David Lee,
Carlos Boozer,
Chris Bosh,
Troy Murphy,
Tim Duncan
Gerald Wallace

I'm curious as to the salaries and age of these players. Without looking them all up I think these guys all make a lot of money. Given Noah's age, position, size, rebounding ability and steady improvement, I'm confused as to how Noah is worth less than 10m per year. I would love to resign him for less than 10m per and hope he would give us a hometown discount, but I think he is worth more than that. I'm also confused by the "he's worth x amount, but will get y amount" statements.

Kashmir13579
08-10-2010, 02:50 PM
So youre saying hes basically better than Rodman? Wow....

exactly what i thought... wow. terrible.

he's not worth more than david lee

edit: contract wise

upt_
08-10-2010, 02:58 PM
5/45. Done Deal.

LTS
08-10-2010, 07:03 PM
Let him sweat it a year more then sign you know he wants to stay

Hawkeye15
08-10-2010, 07:38 PM
I tend to think most players are way overpaid, but I think Noah is worth of a 5 year, $50 million deal