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JordansBulls
08-09-2010, 11:55 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=SummerForecast10-EastStandings




Predicted Standings for Eastern Conference: 2010-11


CONF TEAM W L PCT 10 W 10 L 10 PCT
1 Miami Heat 61 21 .744 47 35 .573
Meet the Miami Globetrotters -- with the rest of the East playing the part of the Washington Generals. Our panel says the Super Friends should run circles around the rest of the conference, except perhaps for Orlando. Then again, Boston eliminated both D-Wade and King James a year ago, so that's why they play the postseason


2 Orlando Magic 56 26 .683 59 23 .720
The Magic stumbled vs. the Celtics in the East finals, but this is much the same team that won five series the past two postseasons. Orlando might have some magical maneuvers left, perhaps shipping out Vince Carter and/or finding a way to get Chris Paul. Until then, given Miami's summer, Orlando reverts to dangerous sleeper status.


3 Boston Celtics 51 31 .622 50 32 .610
The C's showed the regular season means nothing to them, beating the Cavs and Magic despite starting on the road, and almost doing the same to the Lakers. So it matters little that Boston is projected to win "only" 51 games, as long as it can get KG, Perk and the other Men in Green healthy for April, May and June.


4 Chicago Bulls 50 32 .610 41 41 .500
The East's second tier welcomes a new member: Chicago. The Bulls swung and missed on LeBron, D-Wade and CB4, but they did get Carlos Boozer, a deeper bench and a new coach, Tom Thibodeau. That and the sharp ascent of Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah mean that Chicago's sellout crowds finally have something to see.


5 Atlanta Hawks 48 34 .585 53 29 .646
Amazingly, Atlanta has improved for five straight seasons, but our panel says the streak ends here. The Hawks are a solid team that seems stuck in no man's land, having failed to make the conference finals for 40 years -- since the Lakers swept them in the 1970 Western Division finals -- and that probably won't change in 2011.


6 Milwaukee Bucks 46 36 .561 46 36 .561
The East seems to have six sure playoff teams, and for the first time in years, Milwaukee is a member of that echelon. Our panel remains in a prove-it-to-me posture regarding whether the Bucks can crack the East's upper crust, but if Brandon Jennings progresses and Andrew Bogut's arm is OK, the pieces are in place.


7 Charlotte Bobcats 39 43 .476 44 38 .537
Have they peaked? Fresh off of its best season in franchise history, Charlotte's roster looks weaker, its division looks stronger, and Larry Brown -- naturally -- looks like he's itching to leave. Still, with two spots up for grabs, they'll likely earn back-to-back playoff appearances and, in this scenario, a first-round rematch with the Magic.


8 New York Knicks 37 45 .451 29 53 .354
Knicks in the playoffs! But NY fans had more than an eight-game improvement in mind when the team entered the offseason with the ability to sign two superstars. The Amare addition should help, and Mike D'Antoni finally gets some horses to run his system, but the future remains murky. Still, Spike Lee has something to cheer about.


9 Washington Wizards 32 50 .390 26 56 .317
Excited about John Wall? So is our panel, which forecasts the Wizards finishing five spots higher. That says a lot about the uncertainty at the bottom of the East, but it also reflects the renewed hope expected in Washington's locker room after the gun incident that cost the team Gilbert Arenas -- now the other half of the Wiz backcourt.


10 *Indiana Pacers 31 51 .378 32 50 .390
The Pacers essentially stood pat and might miss the playoffs for the fifth straight season. But there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel -- Indy is armed with expiring contracts and on track to have cap space next summer. Meanwhile, the Pacers hope to build on last season's 10-4 finish and avoid the East cellar.


11 *Philadelphia 76ers 31 51 .378 27 55 .329
Even a new coach (Doug Collins) and the No. 2 pick (Evan Turner) didn't give Philly much of a boost in our forecast. While the Sixers have the raw materials to emerge as a surprise team in the East, our panel fears their roster of bad contracts, mismatched pieces and redundant talent will render them mediocre at best.


12 *Detroit Pistons 31 51 .378 27 55 .329
The Pistons haven't missed the playoffs in consecutive seasons since 1994 and 1995, back when Joe Dumars was still playing. To avoid back-to-back lottery visits, they'll need better health and perhaps some bold moves from Joe D in the coming months. Only re-signing Ben Wallace and Will Bynum? That just won't cut it in Detroit.


13 *Cleveland Cavaliers 31 51 .378 61 21 .744
Get used to scrolling down this far to find the Cavs in the standings, sad to say. With a certain King taking his talents to South Beach, we're forecasting a 30-game drop in Cleveland. In other words, unless Christian Eyenga is the second coming of LeBron James, Dan Gilbert may want to back off his championship guarantee.


14 *New Jersey Nets 27 55 .329 12 70 .146
Speaking of owners with lofty goals Mikhail Prokhorov expects the Nets to make the playoffs in 2010-11 despite finishing with the NBA's worst record last season. Our panel isn't as optimistic, not after New Jersey struck out in free agency. Still, a 15-game jump in the standings under new coach Avery Johnson would be a good start.


15 *Toronto Raptors 27 55 .329 40 42 .488
After the ugly departures of Chris Bosh and Hedo Turkoglu, the Raptors are basically starting over with a roster more random than designed. Given the significant dollars tied up in the likes of Jose Calderon, Andrea Bargnani, Leandro Barbosa and Amir Johnson, don't expect a lot of defense -- or a lot of wins anytime soon, either.

ManRam
08-09-2010, 11:58 AM
I think they are almost 100% spot on there, except that I have higher expectations for the Nets.

And I'm content with Orlando maintaining "dangerous sleeper status".

xbrackattackx
08-09-2010, 11:59 AM
I think Heat is still behind celtic's though.

td0tsfinest
08-09-2010, 12:05 PM
Thats pretty much how I have the East panning out except the Raptors are higher (buts that just me being a homer ;)

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 12:07 PM
i agree with this, sounds about right

RadiantShot
08-09-2010, 12:09 PM
I agree with the gist of it.
I mean, it's small things I would change.
i.e. : Giving Milwaukee a win or two more.

JWO35
08-09-2010, 12:11 PM
I'll be greatly disappointed if the Pistons finish with the same record as the Cavs....

I don't see the Raptors dead last in the division...they lost Bosh and Hedo, but they are young and have alot of athletic energy guys.

The Miami Cheat
08-09-2010, 12:20 PM
i say celtics heat magic as top 3...and i think knicks will have a better record

beasted86
08-09-2010, 12:21 PM
Wow, only 61?

LeBron's Cavs won as much or more without Wade or Bosh the past two seasons.

I think we pretty easily go 82-0.

J/K

still1ballin
08-09-2010, 12:29 PM
Wow, only 61?

LeBron's Cavs won as much or more without Wade or Bosh the past two seasons.

I think we pretty easily go 82-0.

J/K

:pity:

Afridi786
08-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Wow, only 61?

LeBron's Cavs won as much or more without Wade or Bosh the past two seasons.

I think we pretty easily go 82-0.

J/K

Sadly, even tho your kidding, I know you feel you could do it.;)

defender4m
08-09-2010, 12:32 PM
Wow, only 61?

LeBron's Cavs won as much or more without Wade or Bosh the past two seasons.

I think we pretty easily go 82-0.

J/K

First off ^^^:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Second not being a homer but i see the nets up around 10-12 not 14. if i was being a homer i would say they would make the playoffs but i know they most likely wont

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 12:32 PM
Wow, only 61?

LeBron's Cavs won as much or more without Wade or Bosh the past two seasons.

I think we pretty easily go 82-0.

J/K

lol idk about that but i'd say 73-74 is within reach for this heat team maybe even 75

Afridi786
08-09-2010, 12:35 PM
lol idk about that but i'd say 73-74 is within reach for this heat team maybe even 75

Wanna bet? Permanent ban for the loser?

beasted86
08-09-2010, 12:37 PM
Sadly, even tho your kidding, I know you feel you could do it.;)

Nah.

I really think 60-70. They don't care about regular season records so won't play to break the Bulls record.

All I really care about is 16 playoff wins though.

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 12:39 PM
Wanna bet? Permanent ban for the loser?

bet what 75? i dont see that happening this year, i see this year somewhere around 60-65, next year somewhere around 67-72

yanks19791024
08-09-2010, 12:41 PM
Knicks vs Heat first round. I smell upset, maybe Kelenna Azubuike with the game winning shot, like alan Houston. Well I can wish cant I

yanks19791024
08-09-2010, 12:41 PM
lol idk about that but i'd say 73-74 is within reach for this heat team maybe even 75

They are not winning 75 games please

nanablvd
08-09-2010, 12:44 PM
we can see that the bottom 7 teams of the east are quite weak.

smith&wesson
08-09-2010, 01:00 PM
Man i wish the raps were better.

Hawkeye15
08-09-2010, 01:03 PM
pretty much agree with the listings.

taz-12
08-09-2010, 01:10 PM
I'd say the Bulls end up in third behind orlando. Part of the reason Bulls are projected to have a 50 win record here, is because of their record last season (41-41). But last season's record can be misleading as at one point the bulls were 5th in the East but then fell to 9th after they lost 10 games in a row where they had rose, deng, and noah injured at the same time. If that didn't happen, the bulls would have easily won at least 5 of those ten games and ended up with a record of about 46-36 or more. The Bulls were a better team than their old record leads you to believe.

S-Dot
08-09-2010, 01:14 PM
I think they are almost 100% spot on there, except that I have higher expectations for the Nets.

And I'm content with Orlando maintaining "dangerous sleeper status".

this. I expect Avery Johnson to improve this team drastically.

beasted86
08-09-2010, 01:20 PM
I'd say the Bulls end up in third behind orlando. Part of the reason Bulls are projected to have a 50 win record here, is because of their record last season (41-41). But last season's record can be misleading as at one point the bulls were 5th in the East but then fell to 9th after they lost 10 games in a row where they had rose, deng, and noah injured at the same time. If that didn't happen, the bulls would have easily won at least 5 of those ten games and ended up with a record of about 46-36 or more. The Bulls were a better team than their old record leads you to believe.

There are a lot of "what if" scenarios.

"What if" LeBron actually played all the season games instead of sitting out the game Chicago won by 1 point against Cleveland?

"What if" Chris Bosh isn't injured and the Raptors beat the Bulls on the third to last game of the season?

"What if" the Bobcats actually play their starters "starters minutes" and the Bulls don't beat the Bobcats for the last game of the season?


There are too many counter arguments.

HoopsDrive
08-09-2010, 01:53 PM
Their top 8 is = to mine, bingo.

FinsSuperBowl
08-09-2010, 02:01 PM
Switch the knicks record with indy and that will be about right

scutch11
08-09-2010, 02:02 PM
i agree with the positioning, but i think all the playoff teams are gonna have higher records, (i.e. miami, milawaukee, NY, boston) and i think the lower seeded teams will have lower records (i.e. cleveland, toronto, etc.)

Minimal
08-09-2010, 02:11 PM
Good list, I pretty agree with everything.
Miami will have more than 61 wins, around 64-67.
I think Boston will have a better record than Orlando and finish 2nd.
Milwaukee will finish 5th and Atlanta 6th.

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 02:25 PM
They are not winning 75 games please

i dont see why not... maybe on year 4.


btw how in hell did the 6'11 guy win? in your sig.... he got 3 good hits the whole fight and won... other than that he was getting whooped

PatsSoxKnicks
08-09-2010, 02:32 PM
People need to realize the Celts aren't going to have a good regular season record (under 50 wins is what I think) because they don't CARE about the regular season. It's a means to an end for them, they just want to get out of it healthy. So they could end up around the 6th spot and still win the championship because they weren't bothering with the regular season.

dre1990
08-09-2010, 02:38 PM
LOL at Detroit at 31 wins

tredigs
08-09-2010, 03:06 PM
LOL at Detroit at 31 wins

I agree - they may fall short of 30 for the 2nd straight year. These power rankings are pretty damn solid guesses imo. Obviously injuries change everything, but this is about how I see the conference piling up if all things were created equal. Although I have to say, there's no way I see the Heat losing 21 games.

Are the Western Conference rankings released?

CowboysKB24
08-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Who cares about the regular season. LBJ knows that the playoffs are the only thing that matters. haha.

IversonIsKrazy
08-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Well when I ran through the first 9 teams, I agreed, or maybe I can switch Wiz & 'Cats, but that can go either way, but Raps & Nets are FAR TOO LOW!

Raps and Nets won't be the any of the bottom 3 teams of the East. U can quote that

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 03:34 PM
Well when I ran through the first 9 teams, I agreed, or maybe I can switch Wiz & 'Cats, but that can go either way, but Raps & Nets are FAR TOO LOW!

Raps and Nets won't be the any of the bottom 3 teams of the East. U can quote that

nets wont but raps will for sure

JordansBulls
08-09-2010, 03:46 PM
Are the Western Conference rankings released?

Tomorrow it says.

BOSTON617
08-09-2010, 03:46 PM
People need to realize the Celts aren't going to have a good regular season record (under 50 wins is what I think) because they don't CARE about the regular season. It's a means to an end for them, they just want to get out of it healthy. So they could end up around the 6th spot and still win the championship because they weren't bothering with the regular season.

this

Delrayhc
08-09-2010, 03:49 PM
They are not winning 75 games please


Did he say that they would definitly win 75 or did he say that it was possible? Oh yea , he said it was a possibility.

JordansBulls
08-09-2010, 05:19 PM
LOL at Detroit at 31 wins

If they get Mcgrady they can.

JOSKOMANG4
08-09-2010, 05:44 PM
1) Magic 61-21
2) Heat 58-24
3) Celtics 55-27
4) Bulls 51-31
5) Hawks 48-34
6) Bucks 46-36
7) Bobcats 44-38
8) Nets 42-40

td0tsfinest
08-09-2010, 05:55 PM
1) Magic 61-21
2) Heat 58-24
3) Celtics 55-27
4) Bulls 51-31
5) Hawks 48-34
6) Bucks 46-36
7) Bobcats 44-38
8) Nets 42-40

12 win to 42? Thats a giant leap.

Slimsim
08-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Knicks should be able to win 40 games

Khalifa21
08-09-2010, 06:10 PM
I'd have the Knicks breaking .500 but i'm pretty content with people recognizing us as a playoff team.

tredigs
08-09-2010, 06:18 PM
1) Magic 61-21
2) Heat 58-24
3) Celtics 55-27
4) Bulls 51-31
5) Hawks 48-34
6) Bucks 46-36
7) Bobcats 44-38
8) Nets 42-40

This Heat team could probably beat our current USA team 6/10 times, I'm not so sure they're going to lose to the league 24 times this season...

Nets at 42 wins? Favors isn't NBA ready, and he may have to start - that's not a team that's ready to win 42. 32 would be a major success. I don't think the Knicks will quite win 42+ games, but I can definitely see them squeaking out that last playoff spot with wins in the high 30's.

dbeastly
08-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Wanna bet? Permanent ban for the loser?

I perma bet like 5 Bulls fans about where Lebron would go but noone respected it. So I don't trust you guys anymore.

dbeastly
08-09-2010, 06:44 PM
this

Your an idiot if you think Boston just bombs seasons to save up energy. Everyone's goal is to get HCA in the playoffs b/c they know how crucial it is. If they get less than 50 wins it means there just not that good anymore.

JWO35
08-09-2010, 06:44 PM
If they get Mcgrady they can.

We'll be the 1st team to get McGrady out of the first round, we will sweep the Heat 4-0 :rolleyes:

tredigs
08-09-2010, 06:49 PM
Your an idiot if you think Boston just bombs seasons to save up energy. Everyone's goal is to get HCA in the playoffs b/c they know how crucial it is. If they get less than 50 wins it means there just not that good anymore.

Doc rested his vets (against scrutiny), won 50 games flat and still nearly won the title without HCA in their last 3 playoff series (taking out the #1 and #2 ranked teams). That team just wants to get into the playoffs healthy - that is their #1 prerogative.

Hangtime
08-09-2010, 06:59 PM
Yeah, I agree. Boston was one of the best road teams in the league. Health was more important than homecourt.

JordansBulls
08-09-2010, 10:26 PM
We'll be the 1st team to get McGrady out of the first round, we will sweep the Heat 4-0 :rolleyes:

Hey at least you would make the playoffs. That is good in itself.

D Roses Bulls
08-09-2010, 10:30 PM
Wow, only 61?

LeBron's Cavs won as much or more without Wade or Bosh the past two seasons.

I think we pretty easily go 82-0.

J/K


lol idk about that but i'd say 73-74 is within reach for this heat team maybe even 75

oh come on guys......:facepalm:

Mplsman
08-09-2010, 10:37 PM
Pretty good list. I believe the Heat will win more than 61 games though.

Shaddix
08-09-2010, 10:59 PM
i hate the heat, and their amazing suddenly confident fans

Knickerbocker34
08-09-2010, 11:38 PM
the heat will get somewhere in the 60s you gotta account for wade injury problems... my bet is he misses atleast a month but either way they will have the best record

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 11:48 PM
oh come on guys......:facepalm:

U dont think they they can win more then 61?

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 11:52 PM
i hate the heat, and their amazing suddenly confident fans

Hey good debate guy so happy you are on PSD to bless us all with your amazing NBA IQ............. :facepalm:

What?
08-10-2010, 01:36 AM
U dont think they they can win more then 61?

Thats not what he said. I certainly don't think they will win 74 or 82 games and if you do your an idiot

TheBomb255
08-10-2010, 02:47 AM
Bucks will finish higher next year then the Bulls, I can gurantee that. People are REALLY overrating the Bulls, seriously. Yes, Boozer is a good player, but he's really injury prone and adding Brewer/Krover isn't going to make the Bulls that much better.

Bucks will finish with about 48-50 wins, while the Bulls win around 45-47.

SiR Lakers III
08-10-2010, 03:39 AM
Nah.

I really think 60-70. They don't care about regular season records so won't play to break the Bulls record.

All I really care about is 16 playoff wins though.

Not going to happen.

Ovratd1up
08-10-2010, 04:02 AM
Bucks will finish higher next year then the Bulls, I can gurantee that. People are REALLY overrating the Bulls, seriously. Yes, Boozer is a good player, but he's really injury prone and adding Brewer/Krover isn't going to make the Bulls that much better.

Bucks will finish with about 48-50 wins, while the Bulls win around 45-47.

Wanna bet?

I'll offer a self permaban, and you get just a sig bet.

Ovratd1up
08-10-2010, 04:04 AM
Doc rested his vets (against scrutiny), won 50 games flat and still nearly won the title without HCA in their last 3 playoff series (taking out the #1 and #2 ranked teams). That team just wants to get into the playoffs healthy - that is their #1 prerogative.

Exactly. They could be a six seed and not even blink. I'm not sure why everyone thinks they're record will definitely improve while age and injury concerns remain. They are one player better, and one year older. I'll say 47-50 wins.

D Roses Bulls
08-10-2010, 06:26 AM
U dont think they they can win more then 61?

I do, but they wont break the bulls record........ listen to what steve kerr said, makes a lot of sense.

JordansBulls
08-10-2010, 10:25 AM
Doc rested his vets (against scrutiny), won 50 games flat and still nearly won the title without HCA in their last 3 playoff series (taking out the #1 and #2 ranked teams). That team just wants to get into the playoffs healthy - that is their #1 prerogative.

Agreed. Especially since in 2009 they had HCA and weren't healthy and lost in round 2.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 10:44 AM
I do, but they wont break the bulls record........ listen to what steve kerr said, makes a lot of sense.

and what JVG said makes a lot of sense... look by no means do i think miami can break the record this year.... i just think it more than realistic think maybe next year or the year after they have a chance. this team has sooo much talent, and a way better bench than eveyone thought they would... and pittman the C we just drafted looks like in a year or 2 can be a really good C which is miamis only downfall at this time. so why is it so hard to think they can do it? maybe not 33 games in a row but 72 or 73 Ws in a year? very realistic

JordansBulls
08-10-2010, 12:38 PM
and what JVG said makes a lot of sense... look by no means do i think miami can break the record this year.... i just think it more than realistic think maybe next year or the year after they have a chance. this team has sooo much talent, and a way better bench than eveyone thought they would... and pittman the C we just drafted looks like in a year or 2 can be a really good C which is miamis only downfall at this time. so why is it so hard to think they can do it? maybe not 33 games in a row but 72 or 73 Ws in a year? very realistic

Well IMO, they won't try to break the record until they first have proven they can win it all.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 12:44 PM
Well IMO, they won't try to break the record until they first have proven they can win it all.

i agree 100%.... im im arguing that that it can happen and that it is realistic to think they can... not they will do it this year

NBA-GMaster
08-10-2010, 01:41 PM
My Rankings:
1. Heat
2. Celtics
3. Magic
4. Hawks
5. Bulls
6. Bucks
7. Knicks
8. Bobcats
9. Wizards
10. Pistons
11. Sixers
12. Pacers
13. Nets
14. Cavaliers
15. Raptors

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 01:44 PM
^ bulls>hawks

NBA-GMaster
08-10-2010, 01:48 PM
^ bulls>hawks
Hawks got better chemistry and bench players.. Hinrich was a big part of the Bulls last year..

TheBomb255
08-10-2010, 03:02 PM
These Bulls homers are so funny. 55-60 wins for the Bulls? Are you fricken serious? The main reason why I think the Bucks will end up higher then the Bulls is for this reason: What happened to the Bulls last year when Noah went down to injury? They ended up losing something like 10 in a row, and ended up 41-41 in the 8th seed. What happened when the Bucks lost Andrew Bogut to injury? They were something like 7-2 or 8-2 without him to end the regular season, and ended up taking the Hawks to 7 games without him. The Bucks depth is WAY better then the Bulls. We all know injuries happen, and not one team can have all 5 starters go 82 games.

The Bucks have depth at every pos. Dooling is a very good backup, CDR started in NJ in the first part of the year last year and averaged like 20 PPG. Maggette will be backing up Delfino, if Delfino gets hurt, Maggette can fill in, and then the Bucks have Ersan/Moute/Brockman/Sanders at the PF spot. I'm guessing Brockman and Gooden will backup Bogut when Gooden isn't in at PF. The overall depth is just crazy, and that's something your going to need when players get hurt.

The Bucks will win between 48-50 games, Bulls will win between 45-47 games.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 03:06 PM
Hawks got better chemistry and bench players.. Hinrich was a big part of the Bulls last year..

hawks are the same team as last year... no change... bulls got alot better this offseason... sont see ATL being better... i see them fighting for the 4 and 5 seed but the bulls ending up with the 4th seed

JordansBulls
08-10-2010, 04:18 PM
These Bulls homers are so funny. 55-60 wins for the Bulls? Are you fricken serious? The main reason why I think the Bucks will end up higher then the Bulls is for this reason: What happened to the Bulls last year when Noah went down to injury? They ended up losing something like 10 in a row, and ended up 41-41 in the 8th seed. What happened when the Bucks lost Andrew Bogut to injury? They were something like 7-2 or 8-2 without him to end the regular season, and ended up taking the Hawks to 7 games without him.

You can't be serious here? Not only was Noah out, but Rose missed 4 games as well. And we traded away Salmons in the process for cap relief. We essentially were missing offense all over the place.

Last year we barely had enough talent to score once Salmons left. This year we are more than capable of scoring and now we will probably be the best rebounding team in the league.

45-47 for the Bulls??? Please. We won 41 last year with guys missing signifant time. We could win 47 games without having Boozer. With him we will be able to win 54-57 games.

Ovratd1up
08-10-2010, 04:23 PM
Hawks got better chemistry

How do you know the Bulls' chemistry?


and bench players..

Bulls have a very good bench, especially if they land Rudy. Just having Craw doesn't mean the Hawks have a great bench.


Hinrich was a big part of the Bulls last year..

Boozer, Korver, Brewer, etc. will be a big part of the Bulls this year.

j-bay
08-10-2010, 04:26 PM
wizards i think can be better then the knicks

JordansBulls
08-10-2010, 04:35 PM
wizards i think can be better then the knicks

I would actually like to see Arenas in NY with Amare.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 04:37 PM
wiz wont be better than NY....

i would love agent 0 to go to NY

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 04:39 PM
wizards i think can be better then the knicks
wiz wont be better than NY


I would actually like to see Arenas in NY with Amare.

i would love to see agent 0 in NY

skillet
08-10-2010, 04:43 PM
i don't get why people think so highly of the heat without these guys playing a game. at best they are the miami suns, they can go a head and win 70 regular season games all they want but if they can't rebound or play defense then they will not win no kind of championship.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 04:46 PM
i don't get why people think so highly of the heat without these guys playing a game. at best they are the miami suns, they can go a head and win 70 regular season games all they want but if they can't rebound or play defense then they will not win no kind of championship.

i do admit rebounding might be a problem (not a big problem) but D? not at all... heat will be in the top 5 on defense

Frankroc_MIYAYO
08-10-2010, 04:52 PM
i do admit rebounding might be a problem (not a big problem) but D? not at all... heat will be in the top 5 on defense

Totally agree with everything you just said minus the whole rebouding thing.

Offense - Rebounds will be limited because we'll make most of our shots
Defense - Players won't have to rebound because we'll control the passing lanes

People fail to realize that L.James and D.Wade are two Great Defenders especially in the open court.

Good luck to all the PGs out there that have to see these two:D

Ovratd1up
08-10-2010, 04:57 PM
Totally agree with everything you just said minus the whole rebouding thing.

Offense - Rebounds will be limited because we'll make most of our shots
Defense - Players won't have to rebound because we'll control the passing lanes

People fail to realize that L.James and D.Wade are two Great Defenders especially in the open court.

Good luck to all the PGs out there that have to see these two:D

Lebron James is not a great defender. And you generally don't defend in the open court. Players will still have to rebound. Interior defense is what counts. Bosh/Anthony/BigZ=ungreat interior defense. The Heat will not have a top 5 defense with pace accounted.

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 05:00 PM
Lebron James is not a great defender. And you generally don't defend in the open court. Players will still have to rebound. Interior defense is what counts. Bosh/Anthony/BigZ=ungreat interior defense. The Heat will not have a top 5 defense with pace accounted.

lebron is best SF on D... sooo... what are u talking about... and anthony is great on defense...
im mad i used my 1000 post on u

Gators123
08-10-2010, 05:05 PM
lebron is best SF on D... sooo... what are u talking about... and anthony is great on defense...
im mad i used my 1000 post on u

Your 1000 post is supposed to be epic, something that will get you a infraction or ban lol

Heater4life
08-10-2010, 05:06 PM
Heat go 98-0

:win:

Heater4life
08-10-2010, 05:15 PM
i don't get why people think so highly of the heat without these guys playing a game. at best they are the miami suns, they can go a head and win 70 regular season games all they want but if they can't rebound or play defense then they will not win no kind of championship.

I think any team/person would think highly of their season if they aquired Lebron, D Wade, or Chris Bosh alone. Not to mention ALL THREE. (not gloating just speaking the truth, you would think highly of your team)

As far as defense, hell freezes over before the Heat have a sub top 10 defense. (after this off-season). Miami Heat basketball is defense first, they focus on having excellent team defense, and now having willing talent they'll be tops in that category. (i believe we were in the top 10 last year). I dont care want anyone says, Bosh>Beasley on D. lol.

Rebounding is an issue. in that regard we'll have to see how they compensate.

JordansBulls
08-11-2010, 11:06 AM
Heat go 98-0

:win:

:rolleyes:

S-Dot
08-11-2010, 11:10 AM
I would actually like to see Arenas in NY with Amare.

He and D'Antoni didn't get along did they? Did't he promise to score 50 on the Suns to get back at Mike, and had 54.

mikealike305
08-11-2010, 11:11 AM
Your 1000 post is supposed to be epic, something that will get you a infraction or ban lol

Lol yea I know I wasted it.... 2000 post I'll get banned lol

Ovratd1up
08-11-2010, 04:50 PM
lebron is best SF on D... sooo... what are u talking about... and anthony is great on defense...
im mad i used my 1000 post on u

Lebron is not close to being the best SF on defense. You can't compare him with Battier, even Prince and Artest.

While I admit I haven't watched Joel much, so far he has only proven that he is a great shotblocker. Tyrus Thomas did the same thing.

And I truly am sorry that you used your 1000th post on me. :/

footballer2369
08-11-2010, 05:10 PM
Lebron is not close to being the best SF on defense. You can't compare him with Battier, even Prince and Artest.

While I admit I haven't watched Joel much, so far he has only proven that he is a great shotblocker. Tyrus Thomas did the same thing.

And I truly am sorry that you used your 1000th post on me. :/

You can definitely compare him...I'd say Artest is the only one of those that is definitively better.

Anthony has proven much more than that. He's a very good defender. If he were 2 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier, I'd go as far as to say he'd be the 2nd or 3rd best defensive center in the league.

Ovratd1up
08-12-2010, 12:04 AM
You can definitely compare him...I'd say Artest is the only one of those that is definitively better.

Nope. Battier is definitely better than both Artest and Lebron. Prince is a lockdown defender as well. Lebron is not close to being a lockdown defender.

Anthony has proven much more than that. He's a very good defender. If he were 2 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier, I'd go as far as to say he'd be the 2nd or 3rd best defensive center in the league.[/QUOTE]

The stats (no not blocks per game) haven't shown that yet, so we'll just see what he does with more playing time.