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_KB24_
08-08-2010, 03:02 PM
``They will break the single-season win record [of 72],'' Jeff Van Gundy said. ``And I think they have a legit shot at the Lakers' 33-game [winning] streak [in 1971-72], as well. And only the Lakers have even a remote shot at beating them in a playoff series. They will never lose two games in a row this year.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/07/1766361/abcs-van-gundy-heat-will-break.html#ixzz0w2hSfzMV


Thoughts? The comment on the 33-game winning streak made me laugh. They don't even have a remote shot of coming close to 33 in a row especially now with how other Eastern teams vastly improved.

BAMF
08-08-2010, 03:03 PM
What's Van Gundy smoking???

marlinsfan24
08-08-2010, 03:04 PM
They could, but I highly doubt it this season. But the 33 wins in a row doesn't seem like its ever going to be reached.

Catfish1314
08-08-2010, 03:05 PM
Yeah I could see it happening but not in their first season together.

numba1CHANGsta
08-08-2010, 03:07 PM
close this thread please, JVG should be banned from any topics on here :facepalm:

SA5195
08-08-2010, 03:07 PM
Probably not this season. And I don't think they'll go on a 33 W streak.

Highlight
08-08-2010, 03:07 PM
72-10 is possible.

33... I don't think so in today's day and age.

king4day
08-08-2010, 03:11 PM
I dont' think either are possible these days.
For the streak, he really thinks the Heat will be able to get 33 wins in a row against teams like Boston, Phoenix, LA, Spurs, Thunder, Orlando, Bucks....list goes on and on. Takes more than skill to go on winning streaks. Some luck is involved too.

Yes they've put together a good bench, but it's not the best bench in the league. He's also overrating Spoelstra. The big 3 are going to have bad games too.
Sounds like JVG just bust a nut in that article.

MacFitz92
08-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Never knew JVG was a pothead.

mikealike305
08-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Smart man the JVG is.

Avenged
08-08-2010, 03:13 PM
They'll have an impressive record but the 33 win feat is tough to do.

They have more of a chance at the 72 than they do the 33.

dnewguy
08-08-2010, 03:14 PM
33 win streak? SVG forgot that there are so many back to backs....3 games in 4 days played now that wasn't the case when the Lakers had their streak.

lakers4sho
08-08-2010, 03:16 PM
This might be a case of poor journalism. Who knows, maybe JVG was being sarcastic in his remarks during his interview?

Minimal
08-08-2010, 03:16 PM
73-9 = Yes
33 win streak = No
20 win streak = Possible

mikealike305
08-08-2010, 03:17 PM
^jvg

OA SLAY
08-08-2010, 03:17 PM
I willing to wager $200 on each one of his statements. Hit me up Jeff!

Jamiecballer
08-08-2010, 03:18 PM
Thoughts? The comment on the 33-game winning streak made me laugh. They don't even have a remote shot of coming close to 33 in a row especially now with how other Eastern teams vastly improved.

Why? was the western conference that bad when the lakers did it?

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 03:19 PM
This might be a case of poor journalism. Who knows, maybe JVG was being sarcastic in his remarks during his interview?

It's posted on NBA.com as well, on that guy's blog. It was just another JVG brain fart.

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Why? was the western conference that bad when the lakers did it?

That Lakers team was just that good :rolleyes:

The NBA was completely different back then. The amount of travel and timing of games is much more difficult now.

THE MTL
08-08-2010, 03:21 PM
They could hit 70 win mark, but I dont think they could reach 33 win streak. HOWEVER, I do predict a ridiculous winning streak to start the season for them. They might not lose a game 20 games into the season. They have a legit shot at breaking Houston's streak though (22games).

dhopisthename
08-08-2010, 03:22 PM
wow that seems a little much even from a heat fan

eatmyazz
08-08-2010, 03:22 PM
Gotta live Heat fans thinking so high! LOL, It would be funny to have them win over 70 then lose in the playoffs. Celtics are still better so it should happen.

RedRicanoBx
08-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Never knew JVG was a pothead.

lmao

RedRicanoBx
08-08-2010, 03:28 PM
I willing to wager $200 on each one of his statements. Hit me up Jeff!

Nice Sig Man NYK ALL DAY!

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 03:32 PM
this is not far-fetched at all. Lebron can carry a team by himself to a 60 win mark. add dwayne wade and bosh into the mix and then what? 1 of those guys can take a game off every night and they would still win by a comfy margin. I wouldnt be surprised if they started the season 20-0.

Drosethetruth
08-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Someone's bound to get injured during the season, i don't see it feasible for either of the records to be beat we'll have to see how their chemistry works

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 03:36 PM
I think the Heat should play an exhibition game vs. team USA on an NBA court.

scutch11
08-08-2010, 03:39 PM
33 in a row is tough

but if they break 72 wins i wouldnt be surprised at all.

as much as i want them to fail, lebron won 66 games with a **** team, and wade won 47 with a **** team

i dont see anyone stopping this team except possibly the lakers and even thats a longshot in my mind

Hawkeye15
08-08-2010, 03:41 PM
I dont think any of these happen. They should have a pretty commanding lead going into the late season, and will rest the big 3. 65-68 wins, 15-18 game win streak is what I expect

Lucashiggins76
08-08-2010, 03:44 PM
I hope they do cause its going to be classic we they can't get outta the East. Silly Heat fans tricks are for kids.....the paper champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 03:47 PM
The Bulls record would be a more reasonable one to throw out. We seem to mention it every year with the top team. But 33 games in a row is just ridiculous today's age.

Lucashiggins76
08-08-2010, 03:48 PM
Any team with Lebron has a chance to win 70, but any team with Lebron also will fail and not win the "big games" the regular season is a extension of preseason. Do you think Kobe really cares? naw he cares come April that's when it matters. Lebron will Lechoke like usual and Wade will have to carry that team into the ECF where they will lose to a bigger, longer and rebounding machine. Oh yeah Diva Bosh won't be much of a factor just like he wasn't in Toronto.

Khalifa21
08-08-2010, 03:51 PM
I think the 72 win mark is reachable but extremely tough.

I think they'll have a chance, but if they've gotten the top seed locked up when they get to about 65 wins, do they continue to play their starters when only the record is at stake and risk injury? Or do they forfeit the chance at regular season immortality and rest LeBron, Wade and Bosh?

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 03:52 PM
The Bulls record would be a more reasonable one to throw out. We seem to mention it every year with the top team. But 33 games in a row is just ridiculous today's age.

how come?

Dade County
08-08-2010, 03:53 PM
I think the Heat should play an exhibition game vs. team USA on an NBA court.

I told my friends the same thing 2 weeks ago......


I hope they do cause its going to be classic we they can't get outta the East. Silly Heat fans tricks are for kids.....the paper champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have hate in your heart, thats a DAM shame. You wish you had 1 of the 3 playing on your team.

Hawkeye15
08-08-2010, 03:55 PM
The Bulls record would be a more reasonable one to throw out. We seem to mention it every year with the top team. But 33 games in a row is just ridiculous today's age.

agreed man. 33 games in a row is as close to as impossible as you get now.

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 03:57 PM
how come?

Because they are going to go through some tests throughout the season. Fatigue, injuries, calls, and droughts are going to hit any team. Why are your darlings any different?

tr4shb0t
08-08-2010, 03:57 PM
It won't happen. The nba is different as a sport and a business than when the Bulls did it. Dumb comment by JVG. He should know better.

dbeastly
08-08-2010, 04:00 PM
Any team with Lebron has a chance to win 70, but any team with Lebron also will fail and not win the "big games" the regular season is a extension of preseason. Do you think Kobe really cares? naw he cares come April that's when it matters. Lebron will Lechoke like usual and Wade will have to carry that team into the ECF where they will lose to a bigger, longer and rebounding machine. Oh yeah Diva Bosh won't be much of a factor just like he wasn't in Toronto.

24 and 11 aren't the best stats but come on :)

Reyes6
08-08-2010, 04:02 PM
On paper, sure.

D Roses Bulls
08-08-2010, 04:04 PM
96 Chicago Bulls> 2010-2011 Miami Heat

MJ,PIPPEN, AND RODMAN> Wade,Lebron, and Bosh

IversonIsKrazy
08-08-2010, 04:06 PM
33win streak = hell no
72-10 or better = HIGHLY doubt it

I see them finishing with a very very very high record no doubt, but to only lose a single-digit amount of games is very tough, I think they'll finish with 68-14. And lose in ECF :) And their highest winning streak will be at 18games.

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 04:06 PM
Because they are going to go through some tests throughout the season. Fatigue, injuries, calls, and droughts are going to hit any team. Why are your darlings any different?

my darlings? i'm a Raptor fan. The level of talent that they have on the floor is redic. IMO You got a legitimate triple double guy next to the most dominant slasher and top 3 pf in the league. Games vs. the middle teams are going to be blowouts. games vs. teams like the raptors are going to be laughable. the games vs. low to mid lvl teams will be the games in which they can slack and still win thus elevating the teams stamina/durability. There might be games where dwade, bosh, or lbj will only play 20 mins. that is a considerable amount of rest... Only playing vs. the top teams is when they are going to have to try. besides that it's a cake walk. they only play the lakers twice. if they beat them once then the 33-win streak is within reach imo.

cle12152433
08-08-2010, 04:12 PM
great...just another garbage article for Heat fans to read so they can think they are the second coming of christ...

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 04:12 PM
my darlings? i'm a Raptor fan. The level of talent that they have on the floor is redic. IMO You got a legitimate triple double guy next to the most dominant slasher and top 3 pf in the league. Games vs. the middle teams are going to be blowouts. games vs. teams like the raptors are going to be laughable. the games vs. low to mid lvl teams will be the games in which they can slack and still win thus elevating the teams stamina/durability. There might be games where dwade, bosh, or lbj will only play 20 mins. that is a considerable amount of rest... Only playing vs. the top teams is when they are going to have to try. besides that it's a cake walk. they only play the lakers twice. if they beat them once then the 33-win streak is within reach imo.

I will sig bet with you that they will lose to a team that is not going to make the playoffs. Every team will. The Raps and Cavs are going to be so emotionally charged, it's going to be a toss up. Are you down for the bet?

OnslaughtXX6
08-08-2010, 04:13 PM
It won't happen. The nba is different as a sport and a business than when the Bulls did it. Dumb comment by JVG. He should know better.

I'm a Heat fan, but I still love your sig.

timz-a-changin
08-08-2010, 04:22 PM
If Jeff Van Gundy trult knew what he was talking about he would still have a coaching job...

YankeeFan89
08-08-2010, 04:23 PM
i think they have a legit shot to be honest....

Jahari Kavi
08-08-2010, 04:24 PM
both are possible........not saying that they "will" happen, but both are possible

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 04:29 PM
I will sig bet with you that they will lose to a team that is not going to make the playoffs. Every team will. The Raps and Cavs are going to be so emotionally charged, it's going to be a toss up. Are you down for the bet?

il be the first to tell you that i hope that the heat lose to the raps and cleveland. They will most likely lose to a team that wont make the playoffs. Like how the bulls lost to the raptors during that amazing season. so no i'm not down for the bet. what im trying to say is that there will come a time when the heat will reach Usain Bolt status. Bolt vs. the clock. Miami vs. history.

MrfadeawayJB
08-08-2010, 04:31 PM
Thoughts? The comment on the 33-game winning streak made me laugh. They don't even have a remote shot of coming close to 33 in a row especially now with how other Eastern teams vastly improved.

maybe they can win 70 games, but 33 in a row has as much chance as happening as JVG growing a full head of hair!

ManRam
08-08-2010, 04:32 PM
I think they have a legit shot too. I won't say they "will", but they have the best shot of any team in a while.

JordansBulls
08-08-2010, 04:32 PM
I have to see what their schedule is like first.

Like do they play Orlando 3x or 4x in the season? Do they play Boston 3x or 4x? Chicago 3x or 4x.

It depends on how many times they play the elite teams in the east vs the non elite.

For reference you either play a team in your own conference 3x or 4x.

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 04:32 PM
il be the first to tell you that i hope that the heat lose to the raps and cleveland. They will most likely lose to a team that wont make the playoffs. Like how the bulls lost to the raptors during that amazing season. so no i'm not down for the bet. what im trying to say is that there will come a time when the heat will reach Usain Bolt status. Bolt vs. the clock. Miami vs. history.

Then don't say it will be a "cake walk" like you previously mentioned.

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 04:34 PM
I have to see what their schedule is like first.

Like do they play Orlando 3x or 4x in the season? Do they play Boston 3x or 4x? Chicago 3x or 4x.

It depends on how many times they play the elite teams in the east vs the non elite.

For reference you either play a team in your own conference 3x or 4x.

Orlando & Atlanta is 4 for sure because of their division right? Lakers is going to be 2 for sure. Chicago and Boston is going to be 2-3. Their going to have a good 10 -15 difficult games.

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 04:36 PM
Then don't say it will be a "cake walk" like you previously mentioned.

lol but it will be. they will only lose because they didnt take the game seriously Like the 72-10 bulls. MJ was smiling when the final horn blew thinking "seriously? did we just lose to the raps?"

Jahari Kavi
08-08-2010, 04:37 PM
they have enough talent to overcome ups and downs throughout the regular season.....like I said I'm not guaranteeing anything, but you'd be kidding yourself if you don't think that it's "possible"

blastmasta26
08-08-2010, 04:43 PM
both are possible........not saying that they "will" happen, but both are possible
I agree.

Reyes6
08-08-2010, 04:46 PM
If they reach their full potential they can go undefeated... but I think guys like Big Z and other vets off the bench can't play at a high level for a whole season which will leave an opening for other teams to try and win.

60 wins: I think definitely
72: Doubt it, but if they reach their full potential they can win 75 or more

But to only lose 10 games in a season is crazy... almost unbreakable.

_KB24_
08-08-2010, 04:47 PM
lol but it will be. they will only lose because they didnt take the game seriously Like the 72-10 bulls. MJ was smiling when the final horn blew thinking "seriously? did we just lose to the raps?"

Then why say cakewalk? You sound like you say they are going to cruise to victories against everyone and still lose to other inferior teams? :eyebrow:

PTB_Fan_In_LV
08-08-2010, 04:53 PM
I think they start out 0-1 this season then run off about 15 straight wins. That will be there highest win streak I am predicting.

Avenged
08-08-2010, 04:54 PM
As long as the Heat don't end up with 16 wins in the playoffs, we'll all be happy. ;)

gwrighter
08-08-2010, 04:56 PM
Then why say cakewalk? You sound like you say they are going to cruise to victories against everyone and still lose to other inferior teams? :eyebrow:

cruise in terms of effort. i don't think the final scores will be reflective of my opinion though.

iggypop123
08-08-2010, 04:56 PM
saying they could break the bulls record isnt nuts, every year a team gets that distinction and they always fail. # 1 the bulls got to play some trash expansion teams. #2 injuries always plague teams. just look at the lakers. 3 runs at the nba finals never once at full strength. #3 back to backs really seem to affect guys. there is no way in hell they get to 33 in a row. the east may be crap overall but they are top heavy. i dont think 20 is out of the question

JordansBulls
08-08-2010, 05:01 PM
saying they could break the bulls record isnt nuts, every year a team gets that distinction and they always fail. # 1 the bulls got to play some trash expansion teams. #2 injuries always plague teams. just look at the lakers. 3 runs at the nba finals never once at full strength. #3 back to backs really seem to affect guys. there is no way in hell they get to 33 in a row. the east may be crap overall but they are top heavy. i dont think 20 is out of the question

We lost to

Miami 42-40
Toronto 21-61
Phoenix 41-41
Denver 35-47
Charlotte 41-41

That 5 losses to teams who won 42 games or less.

Corey
08-08-2010, 05:06 PM
What's Van Gundy smoking???


close this thread please, JVG should be banned from any topics on here :facepalm:


Never knew JVG was a pothead.


^jvg


Gotta live Heat fans thinking so high! LOL, It would be funny to have them win over 70 then lose in the playoffs. Celtics are still better so it should happen.


lmao


Nice Sig Man NYK ALL DAY!


I hope they do cause its going to be classic we they can't get outta the East. Silly Heat fans tricks are for kids.....the paper champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


96 Chicago Bulls> 2010-2011 Miami Heat

MJ,PIPPEN, AND RODMAN> Wade,Lebron, and Bosh


great...just another garbage article for Heat fans to read so they can think they are the second coming of christ...

Love the high quality posts in this thread.

It's a shame that threads keep getting closed because a few choice posters can't attempt to have a legitimate conversation with the guys that actually want to DISCUSS sports here.

Consider this the last warning for this thread: Any off-topic, baiting posts, insults or anything of the sort are going to result in an automatic 1-day ban.

Enough is enough.

Ethix11
08-08-2010, 05:08 PM
If its gonna happen, it would be in 2 or 3 years when our bench is loaded to break the 33 mark but it not impossible. Hell, I always pictured this team having an undefeated season but not yet. As far as 72, they will have the best record in the league guaranteed. Cleveland had 61, Miami had 47, & Toronto had 40 wins last year but should have made the playoffs if Bosh were healthy. The three stars basically lifted their teams to those records practically on their own and now they have an even better supporting cast so 70+ is very real. Nobody is talking about the post season here...that's another topic...besides didn't Boston take a break last year in the middle of the season? Just saying..

RedSoxFan2434
08-08-2010, 05:10 PM
Yo I keep saying ppl r underestimating the Heat. However, not one of those things will happen except the championship thing. No shot at 72, no shot at win streak record, and definitely they r losin 2 in a row. Everyone goes through a rough patch. What if they get hurt lol. The only thing there true is they can get to the championship and maybe beat Lakers or maybe win. That's the only thing true that Van Gundy said.

RoyalG333
08-08-2010, 05:13 PM
baldy bird van gundy just wants attention. Will the Heat be good, even great? Absolutely! Will they go 72-10 this year? No way. 33 in a row? Not this year...perhaps in the future as this crew grows together and they get some better pieces around the trio.

Avenged
08-08-2010, 05:14 PM
Corey setting the record straight. :love:

RedSoxFan2434
08-08-2010, 05:14 PM
Also I like Van Gundy I think he's cool. He's one of the only non annoying commentators. Jackson or Green r the two worst. When Van Gundy was an idea to take Doc's seat I was thrilled. Those comments r false or least won't happen.

Flojo
08-08-2010, 05:15 PM
On paper, sure I agree. They've got the fire power to beat the record. However, to say that they definitively WILL break the record - that something else entirely. Similarly, I agree that the 33 win streak record is probably a no go. Too many good teams in the east.

South Side 95th
08-08-2010, 05:15 PM
This is the same guy who said during the playoffs that LeBron James is in the top 3 greatest NBA player of all time. JVG is an ***** hole.

AddiX
08-08-2010, 05:18 PM
One thing is that they know what they have to do, they gotta win rings.

They just became the Yanks of the NBA, and anything less than rings is failure.

td0tsfinest
08-08-2010, 05:28 PM
This is no ordinary team. I don't know about 33 game win streak but these guys could end up having one hell of a season.

dodie53
08-08-2010, 05:33 PM
70 mark - possible.

Baller1
08-08-2010, 05:36 PM
I can see them winning a good 70 games this season.

The 33 game winning streak seems highly unlikely, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Kakaroach
08-08-2010, 05:39 PM
I don't think its very likely in their first season unless they mesh perfectly, which isn't going to happen in anybody's first season. And the 33 streak is pretty tough to beat too.

BkOriginalOne
08-08-2010, 05:46 PM
They can't for the simple fact that they play in Miami.

You can't have the 3rd oldest team in the league flying around all parts of the country and expect to groove into a 72 win season, that's insane.
Bulls were able to do it because of their location and less stressful travel schedule.

showtym24
08-08-2010, 05:49 PM
33? Hell to the no. 73 wins possible but very unlikely. JVG is an idiot.

shep33
08-08-2010, 05:53 PM
33 wins is nearly impossible... 73 wins maybe...but who cares.

lakers4sho
08-08-2010, 06:02 PM
how come?

17 team league in 1972 vs. 30 team league now

BlazingInferno
08-08-2010, 06:02 PM
Both are possibilities, more so the win total. 33 straight is going to be very tough to beat.

Jeff559
08-08-2010, 06:05 PM
Not this year, they need time to mesh, plus they need some more talent to put next to the big three. In the coming years i think 73 is possible. 33 wins in row is unlikely no matter who is on your team. It could be wade james kobe dwight and cp3 and 33 in a row is still unlikely

Shaddix
08-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Save it all until after opening night. They still have to win that game.

John Walls Era
08-08-2010, 06:32 PM
JVG is just doing his job. About time theres someone who makes bold predictions to generate talk.

Oakley's Fist
08-08-2010, 06:35 PM
I dont see it. The Bulls had to do it in a year where the league talent wise was weak.

To many competitive teams in the league for this to happen imo. I usually like JVG but I think hes off big time with this one.

Jays Claw
08-08-2010, 06:53 PM
Jeff Van Gundy has some of the worst basketball opinions to offer. However, I don't completely disagree with his comments here. It's no seceret that the Heat have enough mass talent to reach seventy wins.

knickfan33
08-08-2010, 07:02 PM
don't think that record will ever be broken... maybe they can shoot for a home or road win record, but not the overall season record

D Roses Bulls
08-08-2010, 09:55 PM
Miami couldn't touch that record if it were pressed into vinyl! The closest they will get to it will be when they visit the United Center. Maybe they can stand on eachother's egos and try to touch it.

That team had unparallelled offense and defense which these three do not have the physical fitness to perform, nor mind, heart or will. That team also had the best defensive point guard in Ron Harper and the best 6th man in the game in Kukoc. They had an offensive system that revolutionized the game. And they had arguably the best coach to ever coach the game.

Vangundy could go get his brother to help Spolestra forming 3-Smeagles for 3-egoes and they still couldn't touch that record. What nerve to mention that record when MJ's jersey is flying in their rafters.

The jealousy of "Van Gumby" is coming through loud and clear. He had his chances against the Bulls while coaching the Knicks and came up short like Riley. He should stick to grabbing on to Alonzo Mourning's leg and leave the predictions to someone who knows something.

ldawg
08-08-2010, 10:30 PM
72 wins is not impossible, hell Cavs just went 62 and 63 with James now add Wade, Bosh and Miller, any thing else is a disappointment. The real question should be can they get the job done come June? my answer to that is no, not yet anyway. Maybe When Boston and La are over the hill and if Magic continue to play small ball. One thing for sure the pressure is on them to win 5 or more rings.

Kevj77
08-08-2010, 10:44 PM
They won't get either. Not this year, perhaps in a couple years when they use the MLE a few times and gel as a team 72 might happen. They should have a really good record.

I think people really underestimate just how hard a 72 win season is. As for 33 not a chance.

stawka
08-08-2010, 11:06 PM
They won't get either record. 33 win streak is almost impossible. 72 wins is a lot more likely, but their health is more important. We saw a couple of years back when the Cavs had the best record locked up but were going for a 1-loss at home record when they rested LeBron with a few games to go in the season - and eventually lost one at home (to Washington I think?)

the same sort of thing will happen. If they lock up the best record, the starters will rest

NYYCowboys
08-08-2010, 11:06 PM
73-9 = Yes
33 win streak = No
20 win streak = Possible

In your dreams

Giantwarrior
08-08-2010, 11:17 PM
who cares about the 72 wins mark. its about championships.

NJrockPD
08-08-2010, 11:18 PM
I don't think either record is realistic especially since they don't have a center.

netsgiantsyanks
08-08-2010, 11:23 PM
this is why you dont trust shady drug dealers

tredigs
08-08-2010, 11:34 PM
If Lebron can lead that Cavs team to 60 wins, 65 should be a breeze for this team. Beyond that, it really just comes down to how bad they want it. 70 wins essentially means that they don't a game off; and with the inter-team competition that should be going on with this core, I'm not sure that's out of the question.

hgtiger32
08-08-2010, 11:44 PM
possible...i do think everyone is being too negative about bosh, lebron, and wade playing together saying it won't work but NO 1 knows what will happen. 72 i doubt it but heck you never know. 33 in a row will never happen again. i think the NBA is too good in general nowadays that have too many players who could go crazy one game and get their team a W.

NBA talent league wide in 2010>>>>>NBA talent league wide 95-96. End of story...

Iron24th
08-08-2010, 11:50 PM
JVG has lost his mind,miami breaking the 72 wins mark?And the 33 straight wins in their first season together without a true Center??? They'll probably win 60, but anything else will be a big fail.

avrpatsfan
08-08-2010, 11:56 PM
33 isn't happening.

nanablvd
08-09-2010, 12:04 AM
Nice Jeff Van Gundy, I see how you are trying to put more pressure on the Heat! I know you are hoping for their failure as much as your brother.

DoJoTheSlasher
08-09-2010, 12:12 AM
2 letters.

N O

PrettyBoyJ
08-09-2010, 12:27 AM
SMH! I think all the premature predictions will ultimately break the Heats.. some of the things ppl expect them to do are jus setting the bar high and they would be failures if they dont achieve them in the media's eyes

IndiansFan337
08-09-2010, 12:34 AM
They have enough talent to win that many games. They would have to remain completely motivated throughout the season. If anyone were to get injured their hopes would be shot. I ultimately don't see it happening during this upcoming season.

LA_Raiders
08-09-2010, 12:34 AM
lol

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 12:51 AM
I think it's realistic to think they can, maybe 33 games is a stretch but 72 is within grasp for a team with this amount of talent, maybe not this year but Wade, LeBron and Bosh already played together and will train exytremly hard together so I can see this happening as soon as next year. I don't see why they wouldn't gel. These guys are smart athletes and they now that they need to change their game and they know what it takes to win. We all seen that Wade can change his game

Jahari Kavi
08-09-2010, 01:11 AM
I don't think either record is realistic especially since they don't have a center.

there aren't that many great centers....

Jahari Kavi
08-09-2010, 01:13 AM
They can't for the simple fact that they play in Miami.

You can't have the 3rd oldest team in the league flying around all parts of the country and expect to groove into a 72 win season, that's insane.
Bulls were able to do it because of their location and less stressful travel schedule.

the 3rd oldest team thing is a lil misleading...their core peaces are young guys in their prime......

LeBitteNoir
08-09-2010, 01:16 AM
The HEAT will wipe their a--es with the league. 33-game winning streak is entirely possible. Hell, 40-gamer is possible too. Clench your butt cheeks.

GspLAL
08-09-2010, 01:17 AM
72 wins is not impossible, hell Cavs just went 62 and 63 with James now add Wade, Bosh and Miller, any thing else is a disappointment. The real question should be can they get the job done come June? my answer to that is no, not yet anyway. Maybe When Boston and La are over the hill and if Magic continue to play small ball. One thing for sure the pressure is on them to win 5 or more rings.

Miami is a better team than Orlando unless if DHoward somehow develops Hakeems/Shaq's post game. And it's possible they'll be a better team than Boston, it really depends on how the big 3 age this year after going through the finals again.

SouthSideRookie
08-09-2010, 01:20 AM
This type of statement is not unusual for JVG, there was many times when he was the Rockets coach that he made comments that would leave me scratching my head, I was so glad when we got rid of him.

ElMarroAfamado
08-09-2010, 02:54 AM
I think it's realistic to think they can, maybe 33 games is a stretch but 72 is within grasp for a team with this amount of talent, maybe not this year but Wade, LeBron and Bosh already played together and will train exytremly hard together so I can see this happening as soon as next year. I don't see why they wouldn't gel. These guys are smart athletes and they now that they need to change their game and they know what it takes to win. We all seen that Wade can change his game

people like you is the reason people hate the Heat
:facepalm:

and the Heat will not even win 50 games next year...

Book it.

knickfan33
08-09-2010, 03:11 AM
^^ lol theyll hit 50 wins, but they wont be close to 72, i don't think theyll even be the best record in the east. Dwayne wade himself talked about them having three game losing steaks during his "WTC" comment.....
well just one 3 game losing streak is about a third of the way to 10 losses.... they don't even have he confidence in themselves to have that type of season

HeatWave2306
08-09-2010, 03:27 AM
Wow so some of you are saying the heat won't even get close to 72 wins ..u do realize that LeBron had 66 win and 62 win seasons with a garbage team right?

kingcanadian409
08-09-2010, 03:28 AM
They won't hit 70. Why? Injuries are likely , and tbh, who ya gunna sub in for d wade, lebron, or bosh? It's the NBA though, so In all reality, anything can happen

HouRealCoach
08-09-2010, 03:29 AM
Hell Dallas started off 0-4 and ended up 67-15.... and the Big Three First season together they went 66-16....

Rockets won 22 straight banged up T-Mac, and Alston being the next best player...

Its possible but unlikely with 33 tho but 72-10 can be reached they have two of the top 5 players in their prime at once... Also Bosh who is able to put up 30 points at anytime with great shooters surrounding them

gbrl
08-09-2010, 03:39 AM
^great sig, and i agree

Supa
08-09-2010, 07:23 AM
or He is fishing for future coaching job with Heat.

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todu82
08-09-2010, 08:19 AM
I think they'll get 70 wins, but I don't think they'll get more than 72.

S-Dot
08-09-2010, 08:52 AM
They can win 70, but not their first year together. Maybe in their second or third season. Gotta love JVG for being that bold though...oh and I'm not too sure about the 33 game win streak.

rabzouz 96
08-09-2010, 08:57 AM
people like you is the reason people hate the Heat
:facepalm:

and the Heat will not even win 50 games next year...

Book it.

gosh this post is so ridiculous, its not even funny.

Da Knicks
08-09-2010, 09:33 AM
I was going to read through all the posts but i can pretty much tell whats going to be posted. Lakers fans or lebron haters will unite if they are not the same people already and say this has no chance of happining while the rest of us are in disgust because we know it has a big chance of happining.

knickfan33
08-09-2010, 10:29 AM
Wow so some of you are saying the heat won't even get close to 72 wins ..u do realize that LeBron had 66 win and 62 win seasons with a garbage team right?

A. 6-10 games is a pretty big difference considering you only play 82
b. The east is stronger now then it's been in years.
c. That team had time to mesh together.

all the other good eastern teams...boston,magic,knicks,hawks,bucks,bulls..ect
will play the heat 3-4 times....
the western conference teams twice....nuggets,lakers,pheonix,jazz,dallas, portland,OKC

just those teams i mentioned will play heat 34-40 times this season... you really think the heat will only lose 10 games.... hell they'll lose at least 10 out of this 34-40 alone....

GET A CLUE

Brooklyn Mets
08-09-2010, 10:32 AM
JVG must have got kicked in the head too many times by Alonzo Mourning in the Knicks Heat playoff series

The Miami Cheat
08-09-2010, 10:46 AM
72 wins?? no way i say mayb 60-65

The Miami Cheat
08-09-2010, 10:46 AM
JVG must have got kicked in the head too many times by Alonzo Mourning in the Knicks Heat playoff series

good point lol

mpickup
08-09-2010, 10:56 AM
http://www.nbadaily.net/mainstory.cfm?articleid=117

This article seems to think highly of the Celts by comparison.

Cbast09
08-09-2010, 11:21 AM
Anything is possible, but the only thing I see them accomplishing out of those feats is breaking Chicago's 72 game wins in a season. Sorry Chicago fans, it won't happen this year, but there really is a legit chance it will happen.

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 11:49 AM
people like you is the reason people hate the Heat
:facepalm:

and the Heat will not even win 50 games next year...

Book it.

wow you are an idiot... im not even going to debate with u on this cuz its clear u have no idea what u are talking about.... heat will win no less than 65 games

book it

Jemikz9Clutch
08-09-2010, 12:41 PM
u high jvg?

8kobe24
08-09-2010, 01:13 PM
jvg

blazerman
08-09-2010, 06:10 PM
Hell no to breakin either of those records, the current Heat team hasnt even played a single game yet.

DODGERS&LAKERS
08-09-2010, 06:25 PM
They could win 82 games and that wont meant jack diddly squat to me or anyone else. The regular season in the NBA is like the preseason. Almost everyone makes the playoffs, and they hardly ever play as hard as they can. Players rest on defense and dont try more than 85% of what they do in the playoffs. For them to have a successful season, THEY HAVE TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP! They could all have PER'S of over 35 and tie for MVP honors and the season would still be a failure if they dont win a championship. I wont even watch them (unless they are playing the Lakers of course) until May. What they do in the playoffs is all that matters.

MTar786
08-09-2010, 06:33 PM
96 Chicago Bulls> 2010-2011 Miami Heat

MJ,PIPPEN, AND RODMAN> Wade,Lebron, and Bosh

i hate the heat.. but come on.. i would take wade lebron and bosh over pip mj and rodman anyday as individual players.. but team wise maybe not.. we havent seen the heats chemistry yet. but i do agree 96 bulls are better than the 11 heat. a stat that id say is fairer though is the 11 heat compared to the 90 bulls. id take the 11 heat

REGular
08-09-2010, 06:35 PM
Well, I respect JVG for sharing his opinion as unpopular as it may be.

Personally, I don't think the Heat will beat the 72-win mark, particularly not this season. I don't think it's worth it. NBA teams have mastered the art of coasting to the playoffs, and although they have a lot to learn playing together, expending too much energy to get to 73 wins seems like poor management. In my opinion.

Also, I think the Celtics' Big 3, started their first season 29-3, so I don't think it's much a matter of being able to gel. I just think over the course of a season it doesn't pay.

REGular
08-09-2010, 06:36 PM
but i do agree 96 bulls are better than the 11 heat. a stat that id say is fairer though is the 11 heat compared to the 90 bulls. id take the 11 heat

I think he's making the comparison to the '96 team, bc thats the one that won 72 games.

heattiltheend94
08-09-2010, 06:42 PM
Do I think they will? yes
This year? No

dhopisthename
08-09-2010, 06:43 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5450211
an interview explaining his statement

ntat
08-09-2010, 06:51 PM
lol, good ****ing luck miami.

LA_cabals
08-09-2010, 06:57 PM
This is coming from the same guy who predicted that his hair would grow back...

championships
08-09-2010, 07:05 PM
I'll bet it was a smart ***, sarcastic answer to a question asked to him.

Drtino
08-09-2010, 07:20 PM
This is coming from the same guy who predicted that his hair would grow back...

Lol... got that off.

Drtino
08-09-2010, 07:24 PM
I don't think that Miami might get 72 this season... those teams like the Lakers, Celtics, Dallas, Orlando,etc might not just give them the benefit of the doubt and just give up so easily to just hand the win on a platter... just like that.

Sure they are good, but I still have my doubts that the 3 of them would co-exist for the better of the team like Celtics did, there's too much ego on those 3 stars

cabernetluver
08-09-2010, 07:29 PM
Unlikely because:

1. Competition in the east at the top level is tougher than Chicago had at the time.
2. Geography favored Chicago because there were far fewer trans continental trips.
3. More important than anything else, unless they are being pushed, at the end of the season, you prepare for the playoffs by resting your starters. It happens every year.

That said, it is not impossible, but as I said, highly unlikely.

RocketPower2010
08-09-2010, 08:38 PM
Jeff Van Gundy, career coaching record 430-318, that's a .575 winning record. Brought the Knicks to the NBA finals, widely praised as one of the most defensively gifted coaches. It's just my wild guess that he is a little bit more informed and knowledgeable than your regular PSD forum poster. So forgive me if I respect his POV over these posters.

NYKNYGNYY
08-09-2010, 08:55 PM
not this season mybe next

effen5
08-09-2010, 09:26 PM
i hate the heat.. but come on.. i would take wade lebron and bosh over pip mj and rodman anyday as individual players.. but team wise maybe not.. we havent seen the heats chemistry yet. but i do agree 96 bulls are better than the 11 heat. a stat that id say is fairer though is the 11 heat compared to the 90 bulls. id take the 11 heat

Jordan > wade
Pip < Lebron (not by much imo)
Rodman > Bosh

I would take that Bulls team anyday of the week.

djlamer
08-09-2010, 10:37 PM
"That doesn't mean if they[heat] win a championship it's a great accomplishment either, because they're so much better than everybody. But to discount just how good they are, I think people are making a mistake."

good stuff JVG