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Chacarron
08-02-2010, 01:03 PM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/08/02/race.to.mvp/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Lebron James
6. Deron Williams
7. Carlos Boozer
8. Amar'e Stoudemire
9. Carmelo Anthony
10. Steve Nash

No Wade?

S-Dot
08-02-2010, 01:06 PM
I can't see Boozer ahead of Nash and Melo. I actually think Melo will be a frontrunner for MVP this year.

Also, LBJ will still be in the top 3 IMO.

Baller1
08-02-2010, 01:06 PM
Durant's gettin' it this year.

Minimal
08-02-2010, 01:09 PM
Stupid list from Steve Aschburner...
Should be something like this
1. Lebron (defending mvp)
2. Durant
3. Kobe
Boozer on 7? Wtf? Better chances than Derrick Rose or Dwyane Wade? Amare on 8? Seriously? Dirk on 4 and Carmelo only on 9? Whatever...

Raph12
08-02-2010, 01:22 PM
Melo should be higher, Lebron should be lower and where the **** is Brandon Roy and Dwyane Wade?

Jonathan2323
08-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Has there ever been co-Mvp's? lol

TheTakeOver24
08-02-2010, 01:31 PM
haha how is boozer on this list?
KD gets the mvp this year.

h2r09
08-02-2010, 01:33 PM
people are completely underrating just how good lebron is just because he went to miami. rondo should be on the list though.

dikimbemutumbo
08-02-2010, 01:45 PM
First, if a Miami player wins it, it will be DWade, and not second banana bron bron. Second, i think DRose will be a sleeper candidate for MVP this year. His defense will be ntably better in Thibodeau's system, and his shot is better, not a great 3pt shooter, but he is getting to be decent. Watch the kid dominate the league, and enter top 10, closer to top 5 territory. That being said, Durant wins it this year. Thunder will only get better, and kid is sick.

Khalifa21
08-02-2010, 01:53 PM
:laugh2: at Boozer being over Amar'e.

It should look something like this:

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Dwight
5. Melo
6. Roy
7. Nowitzki
8. Wade
9. Amar'e
10. Deron

thekmp211
08-02-2010, 01:57 PM
amare and boozer dont belong. no wade? no roy? no chris paul?

durant will emerge as the frontrunner at the beginning of the season

Minimal
08-02-2010, 01:59 PM
First, if a Miami player wins it, it will be DWade, and not second banana bron bron.
D-Wade's numbers are nothing near LeBron's. With whole my respect to D-Wade, I gotta say that Lebron will be the first banana in the heat.

thekmp211
08-02-2010, 02:00 PM
First, if a Miami player wins it, it will be DWade, and not second banana bron bron. Second, i think DRose will be a sleeper candidate for MVP this year. His defense will be ntably better in Thibodeau's system, and his shot is better, not a great 3pt shooter, but he is getting to be decent. Watch the kid dominate the league, and enter top 10, closer to top 5 territory. That being said, Durant wins it this year. Thunder will only get better, and kid is sick.

who is derrick rose knocking out of these lists? no one. not until he does something he hasn't done yet.

John Walls Era
08-02-2010, 02:04 PM
Did Steve Aschburner always write Race to MVP? Because his list is pretty bad.

jackdawson
08-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Are you ****ing kidding me???? No Wade on the top ten list, no credibility. **** it. LeBron should be #1 simply because he is the defending champions. He is the man to beat, just like Lakers are the team to beat. Well, this list has more questionable picks, so I am not gonna even bother.

DCSportsIsPain
08-02-2010, 02:07 PM
League MVP is a useless ****ing award.

srfr4life
08-02-2010, 02:17 PM
Does Wade and James cancel each other out?

mikealike305
08-02-2010, 02:21 PM
first of all this is a really bad list and who ever made it is a ******....... 2nd dont u think its WAY to early to be talking about MVP? stupid

avrpatsfan
08-02-2010, 02:23 PM
If the Heat win 60+ games and Lebron has only a little lower stats he should win it. If not then Durant or Kobe.

still1ballin
08-02-2010, 02:24 PM
:clap:!

redzone11
08-02-2010, 02:24 PM
Odds are it will be Durant unless Kobe has a ridiculous year. LeBron could also put up some big numbers too, obviously he won't average 30+ ppg but he could average a triple double and if so he may win MVP again.

srfr4life
08-02-2010, 02:30 PM
What would it take in your eyes for Dwight to win it?

dikimbemutumbo
08-02-2010, 02:31 PM
who is derrick rose knocking out of these lists? no one. not until he does something he hasn't done yet.

Anyone who has followed what drose has been doing over the last year knows how big of a season he is in for. I have him at about 24ppg, 8-9 assists a game and 4-5 boards a game, and around 1.5 steals a game. He is ready to come into his own, and having boozer and korver around will bring his assists up. He has worked on his three all summer, so his scoring potential has become greater as well. If he can be half decent from three, watch out NBA. I would put rose above nash, amare and boozer on that list, but it is missing paul and wade and roy.

I believe that rose passes CP3 and definatively puts himself above Rondo this year, and its a 2-horse race b/w him and deron for best pg in the league.

Like i said tho, i think it is durants to lose this year.

Shammyguy3
08-02-2010, 02:31 PM
Durant
Anthony
Kobe
Lebron
Howard
Paul
Nowitzki
Roy
Rose
Wade

heattiltheend94
08-02-2010, 02:35 PM
What would it take in your eyes for Dwight to win it?

Best record. D12 never gets any appreciation, and people underestimate his influence on offensive and defensive end.

mikealike305
08-02-2010, 02:37 PM
Best record. D12 never gets any appreciation, and people underestimate his influence on offensive and defensive end.

i agree

Geargo Wallace
08-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Boozer over Rose haha

Minimal
08-02-2010, 02:50 PM
70% of the time mvp award is won by the guy whose team had the best record in the season.
2003 - San Antonio Spurs (60-22) 1st in NBA - Tim Duncan
2004 - Minnesota Timberwolves (58-24) 2nd in NBA - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Phoenix Suns (62-20) 1st in NBA - Steve Nash
2006 - Phoenix Suns (54-28) 3rd in NBA - Steve Nash
2007 - Dallas Mavericks (67-15) 1st in NBA - Dirk Nowitzki
2008 - Los Angeles Lakers (57-25) 3rd in NBA - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Cleveland Cavaliers (66-16) 1st in NBA - LeBron James
2010 - Cleveland Cavaliers (61-21) 1st in NBA - LeBron James

So I think you better put aside your Derrick Rose and others. And if Durant really wants to win the award, he must work hard and bring his team to top 4 team in the NBA atleast, which prolly won't happen. For now I say the biggest chances has LeBron. If Kobe wants to win, he needs to put some big Lebronish numbers. Dwyane Wade prolly won't win the award, cause he is in the team with Lebron, who simply has bigger numbers than Wade. Dwight? No offence, but he is like a joke to me, I think Bogut can perform better than D12 next season.

DoJoTheSlasher
08-02-2010, 02:50 PM
I guarantee all Heat fans hated LeBron before this season and viewed him as most of us do, a GREAT player who can't win. Now Heat fans treat him as if he is Michael Jordan....

shep33
08-02-2010, 02:50 PM
It's gonna be hard for Wade or Lebron to get it IMO. I'm going to say Kobe or Durant... maybe D12.

Lakersfanla24
08-02-2010, 02:55 PM
people are completely underrating just how good lebron is just because he went to miami. rondo should be on the list though.

If bron was sooo good whyd he run to wades nuts like a damn gutter ****? Cuz hes good but he aint that good.

wmudford
08-02-2010, 02:56 PM
people who are knocking out Nash are just flat out dumb. If they win 55 games this year (which is very likely) he has to be at least in the conversation. He has NOBODY from his mvp years and they are still as good

DoJoTheSlasher
08-02-2010, 02:56 PM
Ayyyy Dirk getting respect he deserves.

Durant or Kobe will win this year. Players who will be unnoticed but wil finish pretty high will be Nash, Duncan and Billups.

wmudford
08-02-2010, 02:57 PM
If bron was sooo good whyd he run to wades nuts like a damn gutter ****? Cuz hes good but he aint that good.

Neither is kobe, who cried like a baby till Memphis handed them gasol.

mikealike305
08-02-2010, 02:59 PM
If bron was sooo good whyd he run to wades nuts like a damn gutter ****? Cuz hes good but he aint that good.

top 5 most stupid things ive ever heard....

Wade_County
08-02-2010, 03:03 PM
Did Steve Aschburner always write Race to MVP? Because his list is pretty bad.

lmao great sig

Purple&Gold24
08-02-2010, 03:18 PM
Agree with the top 2.

LayZbone
08-02-2010, 03:23 PM
Both Kobe and Gasol were regulars in the top 10 MVP list last year....who's to say Lebron and Wade won't be this year? I find it odd that they left Wade out. Boozer's a little high too. If anything, Rose should be on this list instead of Boozer.

8kobe24
08-02-2010, 03:43 PM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/08/02/race.to.mvp/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Lebron James
6. Deron Williams
7. Carlos Boozer
8. Amar'e Stoudemire
9. Carmelo Anthony
10. Steve Nash

No Wade?

I would place wade in for lebron. #2 guys can't be MVP.

cabernetluver
08-02-2010, 04:00 PM
Honestly, the post season MVP is the only one I care about!

DODGERS&LAKERS
08-02-2010, 04:13 PM
If Shaq could not win more than one because he had a great player like Kobe on his same team, then Lebron and Wade are going to cancel each other out as well.

But who cares? Kobe won it three years ago. What did that get him? Lebron won it the last two years. What did that get him. Nothing worth a damn in my opinion.

_KB24_
08-02-2010, 04:36 PM
1. Melo
2. Kobe
3. Durant
4. Dirk
5. Dwight
6. Wade
7. Deron
8. Rose
9. Nash
10. Bron

alencp3
08-02-2010, 05:40 PM
Lol at Boozer at 7,no wade no rose no cp3 hmmm i think it will be between Lebron and durant

Htownballa1622
08-02-2010, 06:45 PM
Lebron will be up there.he's defending mvp.wade probably scores more but lebron has better numbers and if they win the most games it will be lebron.yes its wades team but lebron was and is the better player all around.and lebron didn't run to join just wade.he realized he had more chance to win multiple championships.yes it hurt his legacy in regards to kobe and mj but lebron is still the best player in the world if not the second best.

Kyben36
08-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Boozer ahead of Rose is just stupid, rose is running that team, not boozer. And Im not sure If I would put rose top 10, it would be close, but we will have to see where the bulls end up.

Kyben36
08-02-2010, 07:02 PM
Wade boozer and bosh can no longer win MVPs if you ask me, there are too many questions, such as 1) could James do it if it wasnt for Wade 2) could wade do it if it wasnt for James

neither can win anymore. no mater what. they could be in talks, but both players deserve too much credit to give another player it over the other.

VinceCarter
08-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Where's CP3?

jackdawson
08-02-2010, 09:08 PM
It won't be different this year. Best player from the best team wins it. Simple as that. Ask Wade about 2008 season or ask kobe about 2006 season. This year it's gonna be LeBron's three peat or Wade. Plain simple. I know it hurts some of you guys a lot, but reality must be taken with ease even it's painful as hell. If any exception happens then it's Durant. No one else has a chance.

MacFitz92
08-02-2010, 09:17 PM
His thinking is probably if a team did good who would get the credit.

Boozer might do well with Rose. If Miami does great, Bron will get the credit. It's rare that there are two MVP candidates on a team.

Just throwing it out there.

DaBUU
08-02-2010, 09:22 PM
1. Durant
The Rest

iggypop123
08-02-2010, 09:30 PM
It won't be different this year. Best player from the best team wins it. Simple as that. Ask Wade about 2008 season or ask kobe about 2006 season. This year it's gonna be LeBron's three peat or Wade. Plain simple. I know it hurts some of you guys a lot, but reality must be taken with ease even it's painful as hell. If any exception happens then it's Durant. No one else has a chance.

get ready for that not to happen. criteria remains the same. if you have a perceived equal teamate you wont win it. kobe never got close with shaq on his squad and likewise shaq didnt get it either. it still boggles my mind shaq has 1 mvp while nash (never gone to a nba finals) has 2. lebron won it 2 yrs because media said he has nothing and he is the team. in miami he isnt even the man. durant or howard compete for this easily. the media reluctantly had to give it to kobe that year, but now that he has one they wont even come close to giving him another one.

97NYer
08-02-2010, 09:37 PM
Durant
Kobe
Dwight
Melo
LeBron
Wade
Roy
Amar'e
CP3
Deron

Bulls_fan90
08-02-2010, 09:42 PM
70% of the time mvp award is won by the guy whose team had the best record in the season.
2003 - San Antonio Spurs (60-22) 1st in NBA - Tim Duncan
2004 - Minnesota Timberwolves (58-24) 2nd in NBA - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Phoenix Suns (62-20) 1st in NBA - Steve Nash
2006 - Phoenix Suns (54-28) 3rd in NBA - Steve Nash
2007 - Dallas Mavericks (67-15) 1st in NBA - Dirk Nowitzki
2008 - Los Angeles Lakers (57-25) 3rd in NBA - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Cleveland Cavaliers (66-16) 1st in NBA - LeBron James
2010 - Cleveland Cavaliers (61-21) 1st in NBA - LeBron James

So I think you better put aside your Derrick Rose and others. And if Durant really wants to win the award, he must work hard and bring his team to top 4 team in the NBA atleast, which prolly won't happen. For now I say the biggest chances has LeBron. If Kobe wants to win, he needs to put some big Lebronish numbers. Dwyane Wade prolly won't win the award, cause he is in the team with Lebron, who simply has bigger numbers than Wade. Dwight? No offence, but he is like a joke to me, I think Bogut can perform better than D12 next season.

I don't even know what to say to this. :facepalm:

kArSoN RyDaH
08-03-2010, 01:44 AM
durant
kobe
dwight

everyone else IMO


i dont like how in the article it completely discredits the value of the finals mvp. i dont know which player in the nba would take a regular season mvp over a finals mvp.

kArSoN RyDaH
08-03-2010, 01:51 AM
Ayyyy Dirk getting respect he deserves.

Durant or Kobe will win this year. Players who will be unnoticed but wil finish pretty high will be Nash, Duncan and Billups.

yeaaaa id have dirk #4 or #3 depending on how dwight howard does. but i have DURANT one and KOBE 2. but i do believe kobe has a good chance of winning it. :p

Minimal
08-03-2010, 01:57 AM
Miami Heat = Best season record
LeBron James = best PER
MVP = LeBron James

kArSoN RyDaH
08-03-2010, 02:03 AM
Miami Heat = Best season record
LeBron James = best PER
MVP = LeBron James

join date july 2010?


just as expected from you heat fans.

Minimal
08-03-2010, 02:08 AM
join date july 2010?


just as expected from you heat fans.
Fan of LeBron and Wade from old days, but you can call me a bandwagon fan if you will feel happier.
I can't register on July? Didn't know that.

MacFitz92
08-03-2010, 02:26 AM
Fan of LeBron and Wade from old days, but you can call me a bandwagon fan if you will feel happier.
I can't register on July? Didn't know that.

It's just funny how many more "Heat Fans" there are now.

G-Bay New J
08-03-2010, 03:51 AM
Fan of LeBron and Wade from old days, but you can call me a bandwagon fan if you will feel happier.
I can't register on July? Didn't know that.

A month ago Isn't really "old days"

SupeUnagi
08-03-2010, 03:55 AM
its between lebron, durant, cp3/deron, and there's always that surprise guy

both teams expected to have 50+ wins
lebron is probably going to have 23ppg, 9ast, 9reb good amount of blocks and steals
durant is obviously going to score. has to improve his rebounding and assists though

Enemey
08-03-2010, 04:55 AM
Are you ****ing kidding me???? No Wade on the top ten list, no credibility. **** it. LeBron should be #1 simply because he is the defending champions. He is the man to beat, just like Lakers are the team to beat. Well, this list has more questionable picks, so I am not gonna even bother.

:laugh::laugh2::laugh::laugh2::laugh: :facepalm:

I agree wade should be in the top 10.

I think the list is good lol

cmellofan15
08-03-2010, 05:05 AM
I think Dwight Howard could be a serious MVP candidate this year.

SiR Lakers III
08-03-2010, 05:07 AM
Team with the best record and player will get it like always.

Niro
08-03-2010, 05:37 AM
:laugh::laugh2::laugh::laugh2::laugh: :facepalm:

I agree wade should be in the top 10.

I think the list is good lol
dude... lakers fans say they have to be number one in every power ranking cuz they are the defending champs but when lebron is only #5 as the defending champs its perfect huh...homer

lebron
kobe
durant
melo
howard
dirk
cp3
wade
rondo
roy/deron

jackdawson
08-03-2010, 05:40 AM
:laugh::laugh2::laugh::laugh2::laugh: :facepalm:

I agree wade should be in the top 10.

I think the list is good lol

Yea, your sig says it you have to like it. Prepare for the heart-attack.


EDIT: How could you give someone a :facepalm: who says LeBron is the man to beat because he is defending champion and not give someone who says Lakers are the team to beat for the same exact reason? No surprise though, you are another rational lakers fan :rolleyes:

Enemey
08-03-2010, 05:41 AM
dude... lakers fans say they have to be number one in every power ranking cuz they are the defending champs but when lebron is only #5 as the defending champs its perfect huh...homer

lebron
kobe
durant
melo
howard
dirk
cp3
wade
rondo
roy/deron
I didn't know winning an MVP means you become a champion?

I never said anything about lebron not being #1 because he was the defending MVP .

Edit: I think you guys misunderstood me by me laughing at the Bolded Quote earlier, I was laughing because he said defending CHAMP not because he was the defending MVP.

Enemey
08-03-2010, 05:46 AM
Yea, your sig says it you have to like it. Prepare for the heart-attack.

You act like I give a damn if Kobe wins MVP or not. I'm sure Lebron and Kobe will tell you that winning championships mean more then winning an MVP award.

It's funny when someone doesn't put Lebron #1 you guys all freak out!

cmellofan15
08-03-2010, 05:48 AM
seriously people this thread has nothing to do with Rings or lack thereof so please stop talking about them. It's about the MVP race which should hold a little surprise considering all of the moves made this offseason.

LA-DYNASTY248
08-03-2010, 05:54 AM
kobe
durant
lebron
wade
end of story

Enemey
08-03-2010, 05:56 AM
Yea, your sig says it you have to like it. Prepare for the heart-attack.


EDIT: How could you give someone a :facepalm: who says LeBron is the man to beat because he is defending champion and not give someone who says Lakers are the team to beat for the same exact reason? No surprise though, you are another rational lakers fan :rolleyes:

:facepalm: How is he the defending champ? He's the defending MVP ! Thats what I was laughing at he didn't win the finals to become a defending champ. No surprise though since your just another rational miami heat fan :facepalm:

cmellofan15
08-03-2010, 05:59 AM
stop being so literal. we all know what he meant, you're just nitpicking.

Russell_Roberts
08-03-2010, 09:04 AM
replace boozer for duncan

thekmp211
08-03-2010, 11:06 AM
Anyone who has followed what drose has been doing over the last year knows how big of a season he is in for. I have him at about 24ppg, 8-9 assists a game and 4-5 boards a game, and around 1.5 steals a game. He is ready to come into his own, and having boozer and korver around will bring his assists up. He has worked on his three all summer, so his scoring potential has become greater as well. If he can be half decent from three, watch out NBA. I would put rose above nash, amare and boozer on that list, but it is missing paul and wade and roy.

I believe that rose passes CP3 and definatively puts himself above Rondo this year, and its a 2-horse race b/w him and deron for best pg in the league.

Like i said tho, i think it is durants to lose this year.

that is LOFTY. with all those scorers added on, i'd say your projections are a bit high. he could pass rondo, but cp3 and d-will would require double-digit assists and a command of the offense that he is far from achieving. love rose's game but be easy.

mikealike305
08-03-2010, 11:10 AM
i think its wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to early to be talking about a race for MVP..... and on top of that.... does this guy even watch basketball? that was a bad list

Wade>You
08-03-2010, 11:11 AM
No Wade?Since when does the most underrated player on the planet not named Chris Bosh get any love from the average fan? It's all good, what's Wade/Bosh/LeBron's lost is Kobe's gain, and vice versa. Kobe can enjoy adding MVPs to his legacy while the BIG3 rack up championships.

Kakaroach
08-03-2010, 11:16 AM
It is too early, but outside of Boozer this list is solid. Should be Rose instead of Boozer.

GAWDtv
08-03-2010, 12:25 PM
First, if a Miami player wins it, it will be DWade, and not second banana bron bron. Second, i think DRose will be a sleeper candidate for MVP this year. His defense will be ntably better in Thibodeau's system, and his shot is better, not a great 3pt shooter, but he is getting to be decent. Watch the kid dominate the league, and enter top 10, closer to top 5 territory. That being said, Durant wins it this year. Thunder will only get better, and kid is sick.

If Bron Bron is making more money thwn Wade, how is he the secound Banana? Durant can score but unless they Jump to top 4 in the West I don't see it, the MVP will come from the top two teams (maybe 3) in each conference.

My list (E:Mia,Chi,ORL W:LAL,Uta,Den/Dal/Hou)

LBJ
D.Wade
C.Bosh
kobe
Melo
Deron
Howard
Dirk
Yao
Boozer

mikealike305
08-03-2010, 01:18 PM
If Bron Bron is making more money thwn Wade, how is he the secound Banana? Durant can score but unless they Jump to top 4 in the West I don't see it, the MVP will come from the top two teams (maybe 3) in each conference.

My list (E:Mia,Chi,ORL W:LAL,Uta,Den/Dal/Hou)

LBJ
D.Wade
C.Bosh
kobe
Melo
Deron
Howard
Dirk
Yao
Boozer

banana? wade is getting paid less cuz he is the best on the team and the leader, he choose to make less in order to get this to work, and im a heat fan and i wouldnt even put those 3 guys 1, 2, and 3... bosh should not on the top ten list, let alone top 3

Russell_Roberts
08-03-2010, 01:28 PM
If Bron Bron is making more money thwn Wade, how is he the secound Banana? Durant can score but unless they Jump to top 4 in the West I don't see it, the MVP will come from the top two teams (maybe 3) in each conference.

My list (E:Mia,Chi,ORL W:LAL,Uta,Den/Dal/Hou)

LBJ
D.Wade
C.Bosh
kobe
Melo
Deron
Howard
Dirk
Yao
Boozer

do you watch ball?

mamba24
08-03-2010, 01:42 PM
Stupid list from Steve Aschburner...
Should be something like this
1. Lebron (defending mvp)
2. Durant
3. Kobe
Boozer on 7? Wtf? Better chances than Derrick Rose or Dwyane Wade? Amare on 8? Seriously? Dirk on 4 and Carmelo only on 9? Whatever...

wade isnt up there because u wont have 2 guys from the same team in the mvp race. i actually think wade may have a better chance than lebron. the heat is wade's team. lebrons numbers will go down. he will still be extremely effective tho. i think itll be 1.durant 2.kobe 3.wade

NYtilIdie
08-03-2010, 01:45 PM
1. Durant
2. Kobe
3. Melo
4. Wade
5. Lebron

Out of Lebron and Wade, Lebron's numbers are going to dip since he's going to play PG.

Bruno
08-03-2010, 04:15 PM
Wade not being in the top 10 is obviously a bit ridiculous.

ARMIN12NBA
08-03-2010, 06:39 PM
Wade is a great player, but he simply cannot win the MVP award with Lebron by his side (has it ever happened that the 2nd player on a team won the MVP award?) and this whole controvercial off-season where many, rightly or wrongly, bashed the whole notion of great players joining each other to win instead of trying to defeat the enemy.

jimbobjarree
08-04-2010, 12:19 AM
Lebron and Wade sacraficed their chances for MVP when they chosed to play together. They shouldnt win it in the next 6 years. I think if Durant gets homecourt advantage the award is his. Would love to see Deron and CP3 up there though.

jackdawson
08-04-2010, 12:29 AM
1. LeBron
2. Wade
3. Durant

That's the probable top three for mvp.

nuggetsyankees
08-04-2010, 12:30 AM
Melo should be in the top 5 no-doubt

ajsulli1919
08-04-2010, 02:47 AM
LOL at every Miami Heat fan getting SUPER p-i-s-s-e-d off. I don't think Boozer, Amare, or Nash should be on there. Instead, Wade, Rose, and Roy, no particular order.

In no particular order I think the top 3 candidates for MVP would be: Durant, Kobe, and Dwight.

Durant: Getting better, OKC getting better, they won 50 games last season, I think they win about 5 more.

Kobe: Maybe not as fast as he once was but still putting up big numbers, team is going to be #1 in the Western Conference, they've won the last two championships, is overdue for his 2nd MVP.

Dwight: He's a straight up beast, if some practice with Hakeem works out and he's able to add an extra 5 points to his average, maintain "Defensive Player of the Year" status, and his team is in the top 3 in the East I can very easily seeing him win it.

Edit: wanted to add two more players in no particular order.

Wade: Monster of a player, top-dog on his team that has the potential to be great...playing with better players also. Although, if Miami is not in the top 2 or 3 then Wade probably doesn't get it.

Dirk: Amazing player...If only his defense was better. He has a good supporting cast. I think the Mavericks would have to get at least the #2 spot for him to get it with the team he has. Must average at least 25 and 10 also. If they somehow got the #1 spot I think he'd get it.

ajsulli1919
08-04-2010, 02:56 AM
Also LOL at anyone putting Wade and LeBron #1 and #2....bandwagon biatches. Do you guys live in the real world at all? I mean at least be semi realistic.

Melo15
08-04-2010, 03:04 AM
My boy Carmelo is winning it this year, sorry folks :D

isuk
08-04-2010, 03:12 AM
kobe baby, hes back

meloman1592
08-04-2010, 03:26 AM
Ok lebron should be 1 cause he's the defending mvp but I think melos getting it this year(yes he's my fav player) but in all seriousness I think its his. Durant will be tough competition. And kobe right behind

esewicked13
08-04-2010, 03:59 AM
either kevin durant or carmelo anthony will win MVP just watch

jmtapia
08-04-2010, 04:30 AM
LBJ at 5?? :rolleyes:

BrotherRedz
08-04-2010, 04:46 AM
either kevin durant or carmelo anthony will win MVP just watch

What? MVP isnt the same with Scoring Champion

Get real

Jewelz0376
08-04-2010, 04:49 AM
either kevin durant or carmelo anthony will win MVP just watch

Neither of these teams will have a good enough record to for either of them to win mvp...Some people are blowing up the thunder way too much just cause they took the Lakers to 6 games with a gimpy Bynum...

Either Kobe or Wade is getting Mvp this year...I'm probably going with Wade since it seems like Kobe gets hated on by reporters for some reason..

S-Dot
08-04-2010, 11:43 AM
Neither of these teams will have a good enough record to for either of them to win mvp...Some people are blowing up the thunder way too much just cause they took the Lakers to 6 games with a gimpy Bynum...

Either Kobe or Wade is getting Mvp this year...I'm probably going with Wade since it seems like Kobe gets hated on by reporters for some reason..

The Nuggets could make noise in the West if healthy. I think Carmelo will be a serious MVP candidate, especially in his contract here.

Also, you think Wade is a bigger MVP candidate than LeBron? I'm not sure if I'm buying that. LeBron could come close to averaging a triple double this season with Wade and Bosh on his team.

Chacarron
08-04-2010, 04:24 PM
Since when does the most underrated player on the planet not named Chris Bosh get any love from the average fan? It's all good, what's Wade/Bosh/LeBron's lost is Kobe's gain, and vice versa. Kobe can enjoy adding MVPs to his legacy while the BIG3 rack up championships.

Right, because the last 2 seasons Kobe won MVP.....that's right he won 2 championships!!!! The irony. Kobe just can't stop winning rings. Lebron should know all about winning MVPs though and I'm sure that's one of his top priorities.

Chacarron
08-04-2010, 04:27 PM
1. LeBron
2. Wade
3. Durant

That's the probable top three for mvp.

I would put Durant 1 or 2 just because Wade and Lebron would take away votes from each other and put Kobe 2 or 3 because he is always there with the Lakers having one of the best records in the NBA.

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Kobe

Let's be real.

dikimbemutumbo
08-09-2010, 03:27 PM
that is LOFTY. with all those scorers added on, i'd say your projections are a bit high. he could pass rondo, but cp3 and d-will would require double-digit assists and a command of the offense that he is far from achieving. love rose's game but be easy.

9 is an possibly over statement, but 8 assists is realistic for him, and 24 is not out of reach, he averaged near 23 for the second half of last season i do believe, and his jumpshot has just been getting better.

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 03:59 PM
LBJ suld be #1 for the same reason L.A should be #1 on the power rankings

REALLYYYYY?
08-09-2010, 04:23 PM
lebron should not be on that list

mikealike305
08-09-2010, 04:26 PM
lebron should not be on that list

why not?

JuggernautJ
08-09-2010, 04:32 PM
Kevin durant MVP

Minimal
08-09-2010, 04:59 PM
lebron should not be on that list
You're obviously a hater. LeBron is current MVP, he should be Nr. 1 on that list.

EaglePride615
08-09-2010, 05:01 PM
this list is horrible

Bornknick73
08-09-2010, 05:03 PM
If amare leads the knicks to 48+ wins and averages 24 and 10 he will win running away. The award is Most Valuable Player. He would be the MvP if he does the things i described.

PLAYERS FAN
08-09-2010, 05:14 PM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/08/02/race.to.mvp/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Lebron James
6. Deron Williams
7. Carlos Boozer
8. Amar'e Stoudemire
9. Carmelo Anthony
10. Steve Nash

No Wade?

The media is going to make sure this is Lebron team:laugh2:

tredigs
08-09-2010, 06:41 PM
If amare leads the knicks to 48+ wins and averages 24 and 10 he will win running away. The award is Most Valuable Player. He would be the MvP if he does the things i described.

A) Knicks are going to have a TOUGH time winning even 43+ games dude. 38 wins and the 8th seed sounds more realistic. No matter what, they won't be a top 4 seed in the east, and virtually every MVP winner is a top 4 seed at the very least.

B)24/9/1 for a 38+ win team <<< 31/8/3 for a 50+ win team (KD) or 25/9/8 for a 60+ win team (Lebron). And that's just naming the two previous top candidates; Amare has no realistic chance at MVP consideration.

1) KD
2) Lebron
3) Kobe
4) D. Howard
5) Wade

What?
08-09-2010, 07:25 PM
This list sucks Boozer and Amare won't even sniff MVP. I can understand Wade not being there only because if someone on the heat wins MVP its going to be Lebron, Carmelo should be in the top 5, Durant won't win it this season because of his experience. Players with a chance at MVP


Kobe
Lebron
Carmelo
Durant
Howard
Williams
Nowitski
CP3
Wade

Only players with a legitimate chance at winning MVP, Bottom 4 with a very low chance

smith&wesson
08-09-2010, 07:36 PM
the real list


KOBE
DURANT
LEBRON
WADE
MELLO
AMARE
DWILL
NASH
BOOZER

DODGERS&LAKERS
08-09-2010, 07:44 PM
There is a reason that the Finals MVP is named after Bill Russell and the regular season MVP award is named after Maurice Podoloff. Regular season awards mean caca.

tredigs
08-09-2010, 07:51 PM
There is a reason that the Finals MVP is named after Bill Russell and the regular season MVP award is named after Maurice Podoloff. Regular season awards mean caca.

Yeah, Podoloff -- the creator of the NBA. What a nobody, amirite?!

And except for an automatic spot in the Hall of Fame and a place amongst the legends of the game, the MVP truly does mean squat.

djlamer
08-09-2010, 08:05 PM
i think durant is gonna get it this year.

WadeBirdman
08-09-2010, 08:20 PM
Durant could be the winner this season. But this list is a joke...no D Wade? really?

dre1990
08-09-2010, 08:20 PM
its goin to be KD or Kobe. LOL at boozer and no Rose

SA5195
08-09-2010, 08:30 PM
I see Kobe possibly getting it since he had the whole off-season to rest and heal his finger.

These are my top 3.

Kobe
Durant
Melo

DODGERS&LAKERS
08-09-2010, 08:34 PM
Yeah, Podoloff -- the creator of the NBA. What a nobody, amirite?!

And except for an automatic spot in the Hall of Fame and a place amongst the legends of the game, the MVP truly does mean squat.

It truly does mean squat. Playing a game is about winning. Not accolades or legacy's. Its not a dick swinging contest with guys saying, "hey look, mines bigger than yours". Winning the regular season MVP is just like winning the defensive player of the year award, the regular season scoring title, the rebounding title, or having the highest PER in the league award. I bet anyone would give up these "awards" for a ring.

When they talk to former all stars and great players of any sport, they always say they would give up any accolade for a chance to win a ring and have the great feeling of winning with your teammates. Winning titles is all that matters. If you are not playing for titles, then you are not playing correctly. That is why I like what Lebron did. He is going to be giving up all his great stats and MVP awards for the chance to win. That is all we want out of our sports heroes anyways. I want my team to win. Not for a player on my favorite team to win a meaningless award that does nothing for my team, and only for that individual players "legacy" People try to turn basketball into too much of a me sport. And the MVP award is the pinnacle of the the "ME" awards.

Ovratd1up
08-09-2010, 08:46 PM
This is the worst list I've seen from NBA.com

dre1990
08-09-2010, 08:48 PM
You're obviously a hater. LeBron is current MVP, he should be Nr. 1 on that list.

another miami fan that joined in july

r7m7s7
08-09-2010, 09:07 PM
Wow Chris Paul gets no love

tredigs
08-09-2010, 09:09 PM
It truly does mean squat. Playing a game is about winning. Not accolades or legacy's. Its not a dick swinging contest with guys saying, "hey look, mines bigger than yours". Winning the regular season MVP is just like winning the defensive player of the year award, the regular season scoring title, the rebounding title, or having the highest PER in the league award. I bet anyone would give up these "awards" for a ring.

When they talk to former all stars and great players of any sport, they always say they would give up any accolade for a chance to win a ring and have the great feeling of winning with your teammates. Winning titles is all that matters. If you are not playing for titles, then you are not playing correctly. That is why I like what Lebron did. He is going to be giving up all his great stats and MVP awards for the chance to win. That is all we want out of our sports heroes anyways. I want my team to win. Not for a player on my favorite team to win a meaningless award that does nothing for my team, and only for that individual players "legacy" People try to turn basketball into too much of a me sport. And the MVP award is the pinnacle of the the "ME" awards.

I'd disagree, especially with the last statement. On the surface MVP is about being as good as you can possibly be, yeah - but that in turn is what makes your team as good as they can possibly be. The idea is that you're the "Most Valuable Player" of any player in the league. The game's about doing everything in your power to win, and the accolades/scoring titles, etc are a bi-product of that. Whether players admit it or not, everyone knows what it means to be an MVP and what an honor it is - so while winning is the ultimate goal, it's not as if that award is meaningless bro.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that a player who could very well average 25/10/8 on a 65-70 win team is giving up "all stats and chances at an MVP award"...

That said, I do think it's Durant's to lose this year.

iggypop123
08-09-2010, 09:20 PM
You're obviously a hater. LeBron is current MVP, he should be Nr. 1 on that list.

any heat fan that joined in july has no crediblity

Agar81
08-09-2010, 09:20 PM
KD35 will take it home next year. you can quote me on it

DeyAce
08-09-2010, 09:24 PM
1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. Melo
4. Durant
5. Dwight

dnl123
08-09-2010, 09:29 PM
I don't even mind Miami's big three as much as most people do, but Miami fans are starting to get annoying. Dwade is better than Lebron? How does that work? I think when you win two MVP awards in a row and have better numbers in nearly every category you're the better player. Not to mention in the last few years his team went farther in the playoffs and had a better regular season record.

ALL_i-Do_is-Win
08-09-2010, 09:30 PM
:laugh2: at Boozer being over Amar'e.

It should look something like this:

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Dwight
5. Melo
6. Roy
7. Nowitzki
8. Wade
9. Amar'e
10. Deron

:facepalm: LOL @ you or anyone that thinks amare has chance @ mvp
they don't hand out mvp for stats... it is for winning and we don't even know if knicks will make it
i think they will but no way they are anything over 6th seed
with that wade and lbj should be on the list
roy also has a very good chance
boozer shouldn't be that high but if anyone from the bulls should be on the list it should be drose
if bulls are top 3
drose is dark horse for mvp

Jenceman
08-09-2010, 09:32 PM
It won't be different this year. Best player from the best team wins it. Simple as that. Ask Wade about 2008 season or ask kobe about 2006 season. This year it's gonna be LeBron's three peat or Wade. Plain simple. I know it hurts some of you guys a lot, but reality must be taken with ease even it's painful as hell. If any exception happens then it's Durant. No one else has a chance.

If you don't think Kobe "has a chance" then you're an idiot, plain and simple.

NBA-GMaster
08-09-2010, 10:29 PM
Durant should be no.1!! He was the 1st runner up behind LeBron.. not kobe..

djlamer
08-09-2010, 10:35 PM
Durant should be no.1!! He was the 1st runner up behind LeBron.. not kobe..
word

DODGERS&LAKERS
08-10-2010, 03:53 AM
I'd disagree, especially with the last statement. On the surface MVP is about being as good as you can possibly be, yeah - but that in turn is what makes your team as good as they can possibly be. The idea is that you're the "Most Valuable Player" of any player in the league. The game's about doing everything in your power to win, and the accolades/scoring titles, etc are a bi-product of that. Whether players admit it or not, everyone knows what it means to be an


MVP and what an honor it is - so while winning is the ultimate goal, it's not as if that award is meaningless bro.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that a player who could very well average 25/10/8 on a 65-70 win team is giving up "all stats and chances at an






MVP award"...

That said, I do think it's Durant's to lose this year.

I still believe that Kobe and Lebron would give up the MVP Awards they had won the past 3 years if they received a ring instead of it. The regular season honestly means very little to me.
I don't even get nervous, mad sad or happy if the Lakers win, lose or tie in December. That's because I know they are not trying their best, thus, any stat they might accumulate during that part of the season is just for fantasy basketball players.

Also, do you think Wade is never going to handle the ball? Lebron had some of the highest usage numbers of anyone in league history. That is not going to be the case anymore. And, great teammates by your side hurt your chances of winning this precious award. Ask Shaq. Because writers saw he played with Kobe, they only gave him one MVP. He deserved a lot more. And because Kobe played with Shaq, he was not even a consideration in most writers minds. Even if the Heat have the best record in the league, Bron and Wade playing with Bosh are going to cancel each other out. That's just too much "help"

S-Dot
08-10-2010, 11:48 AM
1. Melo
2. LeBron
3. Durant
4. Steve Nash
5. Kobe

Lebron101
08-10-2010, 12:16 PM
Lebron is #1 Lebron will be #1

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 12:24 PM
another miami fan that joined in july

lol it's so funny when someone doesnt now what they are talking about they turn to they whole "joined in july" thing lol if u dont know what u are talking about or dont have a valid argument it's ok... u can just say that


anyway..... LeBron should be number one... not cuz im a heat fan... but for the same reason L.A should be #1 on NBA power rankings.... for the same reason alabama should be #1 on the top 25 coaches poll... for the same reason the saints should be #1 on NFL power rankings

get it?

netsgiantsyanks
08-10-2010, 12:50 PM
carlos boozer?? :laugh2:

NBA-GMaster
08-10-2010, 01:08 PM
carlos boozer?? :laugh2:

it should be derrick rose not boozer :p
as for LeBron he should be on no.2 or 3 :mad:

Minimal
08-10-2010, 01:38 PM
Why does almost everyone think that LeBron won't be an MVP?
He lead the league in PER 3 straight years and will prolly lead next year.
He is in the team who will prolly have the best season record next year.
This are 2 things you need to become an MVP.

tredigs
08-10-2010, 01:43 PM
I still believe that Kobe and Lebron would give up the MVP Awards they had won the past 3 years if they received a ring instead of it. The regular season honestly means very little to me.
I don't even get nervous, mad sad or happy if the Lakers win, lose or tie in December. That's because I know they are not trying their best, thus, any stat they might accumulate during that part of the season is just for fantasy basketball players.

Also, do you think Wade is never going to handle the ball? Lebron had some of the highest usage numbers of anyone in league history. That is not going to be the case anymore. And, great teammates by your side hurt your chances of winning this precious award. Ask Shaq. Because writers saw he played with Kobe, they only gave him one MVP. He deserved a lot more. And because Kobe played with Shaq, he was not even a consideration in most writers minds. Even if the Heat have the best record in the league, Bron and Wade playing with Bosh are going to cancel each other out. That's just too much "help"

The Lakers happen to have the best top to bottom team in the league and can coast into the playoffs (with or without Kobe), but most teams don't have that luxury. When Lebron took a day off, the Cavs lost - period (1-10 the last 11 he's sat I believe). The regular season matters greatly for 95% of the league, and obtaining HCA for as long as possible matters for every team. Would they trade the MVP for the ring? Probably - but the point is that gaining that MVP is acknowledging that that player did the most of any player in the league to put their team in position to win that ring. See what I'm getting at?

And Lebron will get his touches. His USG% (which he's actually only led the league in once) is going to drop this year, but the ease of the baskets he'll be getting along with the higher rate that his assists will be converted will negate that to an extent. His stats are going to be among the best ever, just like they always are. And he'll be top 3 in MVP voting, just like he always is.

PrettyBoyJ
08-10-2010, 02:35 PM
I say Kobe.. Lakers still own the west

mikealike305
08-10-2010, 02:39 PM
I say Kobe.. Lakers still own the west

what does this haveything to do with MVP?

magic0320
08-10-2010, 03:15 PM
same reason Lebron won the MVP more regular season wins

Heat won't be #1 seed this year in east

ramsizzle
08-10-2010, 03:33 PM
70% of the time mvp award is won by the guy whose team had the best record in the season.
2003 - San Antonio Spurs (60-22) 1st in NBA - Tim Duncan
2004 - Minnesota Timberwolves (58-24) 2nd in NBA - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Phoenix Suns (62-20) 1st in NBA - Steve Nash
2006 - Phoenix Suns (54-28) 3rd in NBA - Steve Nash
2007 - Dallas Mavericks (67-15) 1st in NBA - Dirk Nowitzki
2008 - Los Angeles Lakers (57-25) 3rd in NBA - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Cleveland Cavaliers (66-16) 1st in NBA - LeBron James
2010 - Cleveland Cavaliers (61-21) 1st in NBA - LeBron James

So I think you better put aside your Derrick Rose and others. And if Durant really wants to win the award, he must work hard and bring his team to top 4 team in the NBA atleast, which prolly won't happen. For now I say the biggest chances has LeBron. If Kobe wants to win, he needs to put some big Lebronish numbers. Dwyane Wade prolly won't win the award, cause he is in the team with Lebron, who simply has bigger numbers than Wade. Dwight? No offence, but he is like a joke to me, I think Bogut can perform better than D12 next season.

dwight a joke? jesus man you are delusional...he will be the reason the heat dont win a championship this year if they dont reach the finals...

Minimal
08-10-2010, 04:05 PM
dwight a joke? jesus man you are delusional...he will be the reason the heat dont win a championship this year if they dont reach the finals...
Dwight Howard - a joke is my opinion.
He prolly makes more offensive fouls than defensive with his elbows.
What besides dunks and hooks he can do in offence?
He gets a technical foul almost in every game.
He is a center and he is 3rd in Turnovers/48mins in the league.
He is a beast in defence, but he should look at this game more serious if he wants to win something.

amos1er
08-10-2010, 09:05 PM
Odds are it will be Durant unless Kobe has a ridiculous year. LeBron could also put up some big numbers too, obviously he won't average 30+ ppg but he could average a triple double and if so he may win MVP again.

Lebron couldn't even average a tripple double while having the ball on nearly every possession while on the Cavs.....Its easy to "Stathog" when the second and third best player on your team are B rate like Mo Williams and Jamison. D-Wade wont just let Lebron jack his assists like he did to Williams, and Bosh wont let him jack his rebounds like he did to the bigs on his team. The Cavs offense was built to give Lebron tripple doubles, but as we know, that kind of selfish offense gets exposed in the playoffs by the stronger teams. Lebron is a system player, and in a system with Wade and Bosh, he just wont be able to milk stats like he did before. I wouldn't be surprised if he never got a triple double during his whole run with the Heat.

MacFitz92
08-10-2010, 09:23 PM
Dwight Howard - a joke is my opinion.
He prolly makes more offensive fouls than defensive with his elbows.
What besides dunks and hooks he can do in offence?
He gets a technical foul almost in every game.
He is a beast in defence, but he should look at this game more serious if he wants to win something.

That's ridiculous.

Enemey
08-10-2010, 09:26 PM
Lebron couldn't even average a tripple double while having the ball on nearly every possession while on the Cavs.....Its easy to "Stathog" when the second and third best player on your team are B rate like Mo Williams and Jamison. D-Wade wont just let Lebron jack his assists like he did to Williams, and Bosh wont let him jack his rebounds like he did to the bigs on his team. The Cavs offense was built to give Lebron tripple doubles, but as we know, that kind of selfish offense gets exposed in the playoffs by the stronger teams. Lebron is a system player, and in a system with Wade and Bosh, he just wont be able to milk stats like he did before. I wouldn't be surprised if he never got a triple double during his whole run with the Heat.
I agree. Lebron James was the Cavs best rebounder and avg 8.

Bishnoff
08-10-2010, 09:55 PM
Durant #1

CALIABQLKRS
08-10-2010, 11:07 PM
Miami Heat = Best season record
LeBron James = best PER
MVP = LeBron James

All the above mentioned sounds so familiar.. Except lets try this.. Switch the Heat with the Cavs.. Ok now that looks all too familiar...
But I somehow forgot how it ended? Can you remind me?? lol thats why STATS don't mean anything.. The best players step it up in the postseason..

BTW Nice join date!

Rankings should be

1. Durant
2. Kobe
3. Wade (if the heat get the best record, Wade could be #1)

gbrl
08-10-2010, 11:11 PM
^ not sure what youre getting at its mvp not finals mvp. if heat have the best record and lebron posts a great line he will be mvp

dodie53
08-10-2010, 11:29 PM
lol @ lebron being 2nd banana

tredigs
08-10-2010, 11:32 PM
All the above mentioned sounds so familiar.. Except lets try this.. Switch the Heat with the Cavs.. Ok now that looks all too familiar...
But I somehow forgot how it ended? Can you remind me?? lol thats why STATS don't mean anything.. The best players step it up in the postseason..

BTW Nice join date!

Rankings should be

1. Durant
2. Kobe
3. Wade (if the heat get the best record, Wade could be #1)

Like a... I don't know... 6/24 performances in NBA Final Game 7's?

Funny how Lebron can average 29/9/8 on >60% ts% and be considered a "playoff bust" to some haters because he sucked for 1 game against the leagues best defense.

TEAMS WIN PLAYOFFS, KOBE HOMERS. TEAMS.

haha... anyway, this is a regular season MVP thread - but a dream scenario for me would be if the Lakers reach the NBA finals, only to see Pau Gasol go down with a severe flu and have to sit out multiple finals games. If they were playing the Heat, the domination that would ensue would be a sight to see.

Anyway, I'm clearly helping to derail this thread, so I'll just leave it at that and let you respond however you think is appropriate.

MVP dark-horse next season: Dirk Nowitzki (if the Mavs finish with a top 2 seed).

Minimal
08-11-2010, 09:53 AM
Lebron couldn't even average a tripple double while having the ball on nearly every possession while on the Cavs.....Its easy to "Stathog" when the second and third best player on your team are B rate like Mo Williams and Jamison. D-Wade wont just let Lebron jack his assists like he did to Williams, and Bosh wont let him jack his rebounds like he did to the bigs on his team. The Cavs offense was built to give Lebron tripple doubles, but as we know, that kind of selfish offense gets exposed in the playoffs by the stronger teams. Lebron is a system player, and in a system with Wade and Bosh, he just wont be able to milk stats like he did before. I wouldn't be surprised if he never got a triple double during his whole run with the Heat.
By your sig I can understand you're obviuosly a hater.
LeBron had a ball in almost every possesion? No, he was sharing it with Mo and West.
If you didn't know LeBron passing is at the level of elite PG's like Chris Paul and Deron. He can easily average 10-12 assists per game if he wanted too. He finished 6th in APG last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPr3NNGL_fg
Rebounding? LeBron can jump as high as Dwight, so you think he can't make 10 rebounds a game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvf0LWIeEw
In Miami he will have a lot of energy, cause players like Wade and Bosh will take the pressure of him, which he had in Cleveland and he will produce better at the defensive end.
He will sacrifice his PPG to improve RPG.
He will be taking less shots so he will have more time to fight for the boards.

beasted86
08-11-2010, 09:56 AM
These people are on crack.

1) LeBron 5th :laugh:

2) Boozer as 2nd option, more of an MVP candidate than Rose :laugh:

3) Wade as a clear top 3 player a no-show on list :laugh:

El Hombre#5
08-11-2010, 02:53 PM
1.Kobe
2.Durant
3.LeBron/Wade
4.Howard
5.D-Will