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07-31-2010, 12:38 PM
SI_JonHeyman

#sfgiants in serious talks with jays for either jason frasor or scott downs

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 12:41 PM
I'm hoping its Frasor because I doubt the Giants are willing to give one of their top 4 prospects for Downs

Dr.Funk
07-31-2010, 12:53 PM
Told #SFGiants have no interest in Frasor and are unable to find common ground with #BlueJays on Downs.

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal

StayOnBoard
07-31-2010, 12:55 PM
Hmm... maybe make it a package deal? Send them both... get the prospects - give the giants an actual bullpen

nstojic
07-31-2010, 12:56 PM
hahaha a rumor created and squashed within minutes... is it just me or is THIS mlb trade deadline turning into an NHL style deadline? this year, more than others... maybe it's because we're a team with a few assets to sell...

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 12:56 PM
i would want Neal back at the very least for both of these guys

Asham
07-31-2010, 01:07 PM
downs, frasor, gregg and bautista for lincecum, buster posey and madison baumgarner

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 01:08 PM
Twitter continues its assault on the journalism profession... /rollseyes

DikLongwood
07-31-2010, 01:12 PM
If it happens to be Downs goin to SF then Zack Wheeler or Thomas Neal better be coming to Toronto!

StayOnBoard
07-31-2010, 01:13 PM
downs, frasor, gregg and bautista for lincecum, buster posey and madison baumgarner

This better be a joke :)


If it happens to be Downs goin to SF then Zack Wheeler or Thomas Neal better be coming to Toronto!

That's likely the holdup

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 02:56 PM
MLB Network just said Downs to SF is about to happen

nstojic
07-31-2010, 02:58 PM
brace yourself, men!!!!

North Yorker
07-31-2010, 03:00 PM
ohhhhh boy!!!

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:00 PM
MLB Network just said Downs to SF is about to happen

Noooooo wayyyyyyyy... Seriously?????????? It better be a huge package.

nstojic
07-31-2010, 03:00 PM
:pray: it's for something decent...

nstojic
07-31-2010, 03:00 PM
It better be a huge package.

that's what she said

:rimshot:

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:02 PM
lets see.. this better be good.. no ****ing Burriss please

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:02 PM
that's what she said

:rimshot:

Teamwork jokes! :hi5:

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:06 PM
On Big League Stew on Yahoo sports the analysts aren't reporting anything. Hopefully MLB Network is correct.

Supposedly they lost interest in Bautista but if it is Bautista and Downs we should get a good package.

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:11 PM
On Big League Stew Yahoo Sports: reporting that Downs is going to Yankees. Only one MLN analyst so far.

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Just read that the MLBN guys still thought the package would revolve around Burriss/Adrianza, so they're probably full of ****.

Converged
07-31-2010, 03:16 PM
On Big League Stew Yahoo Sports: reporting that Downs is going to Yankees. Only one MLN analyst so far.

I have heard major trade between SF, ARI and Jays.

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:16 PM
rumors of talks of 3 way deal between us, Giants and D-Backs..

we better not be getting Johnson in the deal

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:17 PM
I'm nervous.

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:17 PM
rumors of talks of 3 way deal between us, Giants and D-Backs..

we better not be getting Johnson in the deal

Kill me if we do.

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 03:18 PM
rumors of talks of 3 way deal between us, Giants and D-Backs..

we better not be getting Johnson in the deal

SF's been heavy in the Johnson talks as well, they might be getting both (hence the label of "major" being applied?). Complete guess on my part.

North Yorker
07-31-2010, 03:18 PM
I have heard major trade between SF, ARI and Jays.

uh oh...
kelly johnson *gulp*

nstojic
07-31-2010, 03:21 PM
^^remember, the Giants apparently really like Johnson, as well..

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:22 PM
John Moresi at Yahoo News is stating that San Francisco is trying ot get Kelly Johnson and then ship him to Toronto for Downs. What the ******* do we need Kelly Johnson. Hopefully we are getting prospects from both teams and we don't get Johnson because seriously if it is Johnson for Downs we are seriously f***ed as Downs is so much more valuable.

Jon Heyman says it looks like 1 or 2 Toronto pitchers and possibly Bautista but he feels Bautista is staying in T.O.

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:23 PM
**** me .. now they are saying Johnson to SF then he comes in a package to the Jays..

i dont ****ing get it damn it, the guys has had 1 good month all ****ing year and was terrible last year not to mention we have no spot for him

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:24 PM
If AA gets Kelly Johnson for Downs I will kill myself. That would be so stupid and horrible Kelly Johnson is not that good and not necessary.

Jays Claw
07-31-2010, 03:25 PM
Why is Alex Anthopoulos so high on Kelly Johnson? :confused:

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:25 PM
**** me .. now they are saying Johnson to SF then he comes in a package to the Jays..

i dont ****ing get it damn it, the guys has had 1 good month all ****ing year and was terrible last year not to mention we have no spot for him

Exactly. What is the point in Johnson. I actually like the Gose for Wallace trade but if we only get Johnson at this deadline and still have alot of our old pieces and give up Downs for Johnson I am really going to start questioning A.A like J.P. We have to get more than Johnson for Downs.

nstojic
07-31-2010, 03:26 PM
Jon Heyman says it looks like 1 or 2 Toronto pitchers and possibly Bautista but he feels Bautista is staying in T.O.

:laugh: so, bautista may be involved or he won't be..hmmm..insightful

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 03:26 PM
Rosenthal said all is quiet on the Johnson front...

iloveleafs14
07-31-2010, 03:28 PM
well frasor is pitching now, and downs is warming up in the bullpen, dont think it will happen

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:28 PM
I agree with BlueJaysFansDon and Jay's Claw. A.A in the last few days is like J.P, he targets what he wants and doesn't care what it will cost to get it, even if it wouldn't make the Blue Jays better.

If Johnson comes for Downs A.A will have to get on all the airways like he did with Gose and Wallace and say, "we got the value we were hoping for". "Trust us we are going to a promise land".

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 03:29 PM
Kelly Johnson's career line is .267/.350/.443 while playing solid D as a 28 year old. Doesn't seem all that bad to me...:shrug:

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:31 PM
Kelly Johnson's career line is .267/.350/.443 while playing solid D as a 28 year old. Doesn't seem all that bad to me...:shrug:

yeah but we dont have any use for him unless the Jays are really considering moving Hill to 3rd which will be another stupid move imo.

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:35 PM
Sanchez just left the dugout

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:37 PM
Kelly Johnson's career line is .267/.350/.443 while playing solid D as a 28 year old. Doesn't seem all that bad to me...:shrug:

Yeah a 28 year old guy with average power batting in the .260's. Exactly what we need :rolleyes:. We are trying to get younger. We should be looking for young prospects. This guy will be in his 30's by the time were competing and he is nothing special. Not worth it. If we got him really cheap I would not oppose it but not for Downs who could bring two draft picks who could end up being stars.

Converged
07-31-2010, 03:37 PM
Sanchez just left the dugout

Getting hugs from teammates apparently..

North Yorker
07-31-2010, 03:37 PM
Sanchez just left the dugout

:speechless:

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:38 PM
Downs is in the game. If he's moving either Cito doesn't know about it or it's probably not happening at this point.

Johann
07-31-2010, 03:38 PM
Sanchez just left the dugout

sanchez?

Jays101
07-31-2010, 03:40 PM
damn it, this means downs aint on the move!!

2009mvp
07-31-2010, 03:40 PM
Sanchez just left the dugout

:ohno:

BlueLeafs
07-31-2010, 03:40 PM
Please AA gets us some good prospects:pray:

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:40 PM
sanchez?

jonathan Sanchez... i would kill someone if he goes to Ari and we get Johnson

BlueLeafs
07-31-2010, 03:40 PM
Hopefully Downs doesnt get hurt.

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:42 PM
now they are saying Johnson unlikely to move

B2theRY
07-31-2010, 03:42 PM
Maybe thats why Sancez left.


A potential deal that would send Corey Hart to the Giants might be resurrected at the last minute, according to the San Francisco Chronicle's Henry Schulman.

Some previous reports indicated that the Brewers had pulled both Hart and Prince Fielder off the table, while others have stated that they could still be had for the right price. Hart seems much more likely to go, and the Giants have been the team most linked with him from Day 1. Stay tuned. Jul. 31 - 3:33 pm et
Source: Henry Schulman on Twitter

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:42 PM
I really don't think Downs is on the move. We wouldn't pitch him if he was. However this Jonathan Sanchez thing is interesting. If we were to move Downs... Well... i doubt it.

nstojic
07-31-2010, 03:42 PM
sanchez?

jonathan or freddy?

B2theRY
07-31-2010, 03:43 PM
Sanchez wont be coming here for Downs..

nstojic
07-31-2010, 03:44 PM
jonathan Sanchez... i would kill someone if he goes to Ari and we get Johnson

*forwards to police dept.*

*IP address located*


:D

ryhno
07-31-2010, 03:44 PM
Got this ;



Twitter
AmyKNelson:
Am hearing the Blue Jays and Giants are both all over the place, aggressive, looking for deals #trades [via Twitter]

Probally come down to the last minute.

Johann
07-31-2010, 03:44 PM
jonathan sanchez i think/hope

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:44 PM
i'm reading Downs for Sanchez

and

Giants dealing martinez for Lopez meaning they nol onger need Downs

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:45 PM
I think Downs will be traded exactly at the deadline. Possibly for Sanchez. On Yahoo Sports it sounds like Sanchez has been traded but to who?

Jays Claw
07-31-2010, 03:46 PM
The Blue Jays are scuffling to make a deal. I hope Alex Antopoulos doesn't make a trade just for the heck of it.

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:46 PM
Kerry Wood is headed to the yanks so doesn't look like were moving Downs unless it's the Giants. We shall see...

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 03:46 PM
if its the actuall John mcdonald on twitter, we just traded him and Dwons for Sanchez

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:47 PM
if its the actuall John mcdonald on twitter, we just traded him and Dwons for Sanchez

Interesting...

North Yorker
07-31-2010, 03:49 PM
if its the actuall John mcdonald on twitter, we just traded him and Dwons for Sanchez

:):speechless:

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 03:49 PM
Yeah a 28 year old guy with average power batting in the .260's. Exactly what we need :rolleyes:. We are trying to get younger. We should be looking for young prospects. This guy will be in his 30's by the time were competing and he is nothing special. Not worth it. If we got him really cheap I would not oppose it but not for Downs who could bring two draft picks who could end up being stars.

.350 OBP with .175 ISO and solid D at 2B is never a bad thing...

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 03:50 PM
.350 OBP with .175 ISO and solid D at 2B is never a bad thing...

It is when you have Aaron Hill. Despite his struggles he is still a great player. We don't need Johnson. Looks like it's not happening anyways.

2009mvp
07-31-2010, 03:54 PM
Definitely not Downs now, Giants just got Javier Lopez.

Dr.Funk
07-31-2010, 03:55 PM
if its the actuall John mcdonald on twitter, we just traded him and Dwons for Sanchez

Does John McDonald strike you as the twittering kind? Especially during a game that his team is playing?

Converged
07-31-2010, 03:57 PM
Does John McDonald strike you as the twittering kind? Especially during a game that his team is playing?

:laugh:

BlueJayCarter
07-31-2010, 03:58 PM
No. I think he might use twitter, but not during a game. He is to classy for that.

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 04:10 PM
they are saying there might have been something late between the Jays and Giants

Dotel just got the Pirates 2 respectable prospects in Mcdonals and Lambo (both have lost some value but were once top prospects)

we should have gave the Dodgers Frasor for Lambo alone

StayOnBoard
07-31-2010, 04:11 PM
they are saying there might have been something late between the Jays and Giants

Dotel just got the Pirates 2 respectable prospects in Mcdonals and Lambo (both have lost some value but were once top prospects)

we should have gave the Dodgers Frasor for Lambo alone

I fully agree... I assume they (the Dodgers) had no interest in such things.

Frasor really isn't that good. He has blown way too many games for us this year... and I don't mean just saves.

Dying to hear if we did make a deal after...

Asham
07-31-2010, 04:11 PM
Who the hell is Lambo?

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 04:14 PM
in other news,, Tim Collins just got dealt to the Royals

StealingSigns
07-31-2010, 04:14 PM
Braves just traded Tim Collins in Ankiel/Farnsworth deal.

Socceroholic
07-31-2010, 04:14 PM
Noooooo wayyyyyyyy... Seriously?????????? It better be a huge package.

That's what she said

2009mvp
07-31-2010, 04:14 PM
Official: no Jays trades at deadline
http://twitter.com/LottOnBaseball/status/20015368685

Embarrassing performance AA.

bomber0104
07-31-2010, 04:14 PM
Who the hell is Lambo?

he was one of there top prospects last year..

i just found out he got suspended for 50 games for some substance

nstojic
07-31-2010, 04:15 PM
Who the hell is Lambo?

a dodgers OF prospect who was in their upper tier of specs but has regressed a bit, this year... still young, though..

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 04:15 PM
in other news,, Tim Collins just got dealt to the Royals

Wish he would be dealt back to us :(

StayOnBoard
07-31-2010, 04:15 PM
in other news,, Tim Collins just got dealt to the Royals

Their fans are gonna be PISSED :)

nstojic
07-31-2010, 04:16 PM
That's what she said

hey!


that's what she said

:rimshot:

read the thread! :D

North Yorker
07-31-2010, 04:16 PM
SF just got Ramon Ramirez from Bos.

nstojic
07-31-2010, 04:17 PM
Wish he would be dealt back to us :(

he continued to pitch well for the braves AA team... i'll always follow this guy, for some reason.. he'll make it to the show, one day..

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 04:17 PM
That's what she said

That already happened like an hour ago dude...

BlueJayFanDan
07-31-2010, 04:18 PM
he continued to pitch well for the braves AA team... i'll always follow this guy, for some reason.. he'll make it to the show, one day..

He was my fave of our pitching prospects. He's awesome. He always has my support.

StayOnBoard
07-31-2010, 04:22 PM
Jordan Bastian MLBastian

Jays say there have been no trades. Meeting with Anthopoulos soon. More on bluejays.com in a while.

****ing lame

StealingSigns
07-31-2010, 04:24 PM
****ing lame

Yep.


jonmorosi: No deals for #Jays today. #TRADES [via Twitter]

ryhno
07-31-2010, 04:26 PM
Son of a nut Cracker. It was fun while it lasted.

Cue the Cito Countdown !!!

torontosports10
07-31-2010, 04:41 PM
I'm not that upset. If we get four draft picks for downs and frasor then we will all
be singing praise for AA. Obv Noone offered anything worth trading, and I'm damn sure we wouldn't get value for Bautista. If he keeps it up than maybe this offseason or next deadline

Asham
07-31-2010, 04:56 PM
why is everybody so upset? Would you rather have traded Downs, Frasor etc for inferior prospects because thats what would have happened

StealingSigns
07-31-2010, 05:08 PM
I should probably clarify, I am not upset. While I was looking forward to seeing what AA could have done with his assets on trade deadline day, I am glad we are not having a heated discussion right now about some questionable acquisitions done just for the sake of making a trade.

B2theRY
07-31-2010, 07:40 PM
im not upset. its not like these guys have horrible contracts and locked up for years.

they are all FREE AGENTS!

we will get picks if they do not return and maybe the jays want to give scott downs a contract?

ive stated a few times i like buck and i want them to keep him.
unlike all of you im not thrilled just throwing everything at JPA next year and say be a stud.. let the kid earn it.