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nstojic
07-30-2010, 02:23 PM
The Blue Jays acquired Mike Jacobs from the Mets for a player to be named later, tweets Andy McCullough of the Newark Star-Ledger. Jacobs, 29, has spent most of the season at Triple A. He's had multiple stints at the level, but this year he's hitting .260/.313/.478 in 371 plate appearances.
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Blue Jays acquired first baseman Mike Jacobs from the Mets for a player to be named.
The Jays wanted a first baseman for Las Vegas after moving Brett Wallace yesterday. Jacobs was hitting .260/.313/.478 with 15 hmoers in 339 at-bats for Triple-A Buffalo. He opened the season in the majors with the Mets, but he had just 24 at-bats before being sent down.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/home_MLB.aspx

North Yorker
07-30-2010, 02:25 PM
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dont know what to make of this ???

T.O. Fan
07-30-2010, 02:27 PM
Only makes sense to me at this point if Overbay is dealt, or perhaps it's just to fill Wallace's position at 1B in Vegas.

2009mvp
07-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Eww. Guess he was just acquired to hold down 1B in Vegas though.

StealingSigns
07-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Only makes sense to me at this point if Overbay is dealt, or perhaps it's just to fill Wallace's position at 1B in Vegas.

That's exactly what this is.

nstojic
07-30-2010, 02:32 PM
dont know what to make of this ???

it's supposed to be the site i got it from but i guess we can't post here from there... ?

ryhno
07-30-2010, 02:33 PM
Wow hes 30 years old, and he is still in the Minor Leagues...Yikes.

North Yorker
07-30-2010, 02:34 PM
it's supposed to be the site i got it from but i guess we can't post here from there... ?

we better not have given anything of value.

nstojic
07-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Wow hes 30 years old, and he is still in the Minor Leagues...Yikes.

he's had some decent power years with the marlins...

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7623/career;_ylt=AjjppfqFQl.Cc.w4VyLSWcPJbQM6

ROKDAPARTY
07-30-2010, 02:39 PM
Wow hes 30 years old, and he is still in the Minor Leagues...Yikes.

AA thinks 30 is the new 23

nstojic
07-30-2010, 02:40 PM
AA thinks 30 is the new 23

??

no one thinks that... he'll end up in AAA to fill for wallace... nothing wrong with that.. when you don't have a guy ready in AA or lower...

bomber0104
07-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Why don't we just move Dopirak to first in Vegas?

this could mean Overbay is being moved

Jays Claw
07-30-2010, 02:44 PM
Mike Jacobs is awful!

BlueJayFanDan
07-30-2010, 02:45 PM
Pointless

ROKDAPARTY
07-30-2010, 02:47 PM
^ agreed

Twitchy
07-30-2010, 02:52 PM
They better not have given up a warm body for Jacobs. Seriously what a ****ing waste. Go sign Garret Atkins or some other loser who's available in FA to play 1B in Vegas.

You should never give up anything for Mike Jacobs.

miller74
07-30-2010, 02:59 PM
hes just to play in AAA relax im sure they gave nothing for him

miller74
07-30-2010, 03:00 PM
They better not have given up a warm body for Jacobs. Seriously what a ****ing waste. Go sign Garret Atkins or some other loser who's available in FA to play 1B in Vegas.

You should never give up anything for Mike Jacobs.

If not one scrub than an other who cares hes going to Vegas

FlakeyFool
07-30-2010, 03:10 PM
why?

StayOnBoard
07-30-2010, 03:30 PM
AA thinks 30 is the new 23

God your a pretty bad Troll aren't you?

I've seen 3 comments from you and not ONE of them had any credibility or even made any sense

Like WTF does this even mean? How does "AA think 30 is the new 23?" IF anything you could argue he thinks 19 is the new 23... but 30?

Keep grasping at straws kiddo

Twitchy
07-30-2010, 03:30 PM
If not one scrub than an other who cares hes going to Vegas

Because one player you're giving up a prospect for and the other you're just offering money. There's no reason to give up a player for Jacobs when you can get someone else to do the exact same thing without giving up a player.

StayOnBoard
07-30-2010, 03:33 PM
Because one player you're giving up a prospect for and the other you're just offering money. There's no reason to give up a player for Jacobs when you can get someone else to do the exact same thing without giving up a player.

I have to agree - I dont care for this "trade" much either...

but likely they didn't trade anyone worth talking about - so Im not too concerned either way. He's just to fill the void on the Vegas team that Wallace left. He'll play 1st there and likely never see the Majors as a blue jay

FlakeyFool
07-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Oh he probably will. People said the same with wise and I think I've seen him play as a blue jay

Bob_at_york
07-30-2010, 04:04 PM
I wonder if AA thinks that a little bit of power from Mike Jacobs late this season will make people forget he just traded Wallace. People wanted an MLB ready 1st base bat. We got one in Jacobs. Who knows if Overbay is moved than maybe Jacobs becomes our new DH.

StayOnBoard
07-30-2010, 04:14 PM
I wonder if AA thinks that a little bit of power from Mike Jacobs late this season will make people forget he just traded Wallace. People wanted an MLB ready 1st base bat. We got one in Jacobs. Who knows if Overbay is moved than maybe Jacobs becomes our new DH.

Oh God I hope not... I dont want to see him for anything more than a bench bat to PH every once in a while.

He does have a little bit of pop but he's pretty bad all around to be honest. As a AAA body for 1st base - Im ok with that... anything else, meh.

B2theRY
07-30-2010, 04:19 PM
you guys just ***** and complain about every goddamn move!

its unreal.
you should all be GMs in the Majors :)

StayOnBoard
07-30-2010, 04:21 PM
you guys just ***** and complain about every goddamn move!

its unreal.
you should all be GMs in the Majors :)

Well.. for the record Im a big supporter of the Gose/Wallace trade (almost every AA move he's made I've really liked)

But Jacobs seriously isn't very good... I've watched him play since he was a kid - I think he was even a pretty highly touted prospect once upon a time.

Again, its a non-issue... a warm body for AAA - doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and certainly nothing to be upset over.

miller74
07-30-2010, 04:32 PM
you guys just ***** and complain about every goddamn move!

its unreal.
you should all be GMs in the Majors :)

:clap: man i thought i was alone. People are mad about getting this guy to play AAA and they don't even know for who or what.

scotttube
07-30-2010, 04:35 PM
No wonder we traded Wallace..

statquo
07-30-2010, 04:56 PM
Mike Jacobs=terrible. Why not just sign Blalock to man the fort at first?

GoblinofPain
07-30-2010, 05:00 PM
**** I actually liked Jacobs bat in 2k and the show last couple years.

As we have seen with a couple players this year, maybe a change of scenery and he gets called up a couple times in Sept and blasts a couple dingers.

Also we probably sent them back a player vs cutting one and paying his salary anyway, even though I have no idea what the roster count is in Vegas or Dunedin. Can only have 25 right? :)

tuck25
07-30-2010, 05:05 PM
Mike Jacobs=terrible. Why not just sign Blalock to man the fort at first?

True, if we give up more then a ball of used balls for him, then we got raped. There has to be someone in the farm system that has no future and can man 1st base at AAA. Or someone in the independant leagues even, has to be better then Jacobs, really. When is Ruiz nowadays?:rolleyes:

Kelly Gruber
07-30-2010, 05:08 PM
Bah he's a warm body for Las Vegas.

Blalock and Atkins don't want to play AAA anymore.

Macedonian
07-30-2010, 05:13 PM
There is a stat category in Baseball-Reference named '162 Game Average'...
This is an attempt to condense each batter's career into a single season's worth of stats... It's helpful if you want to compare two players!

Lyle Overbay (33 years old):
555 AB ; 74 R ; 17 HR ; 74 RBI ; .276 AVG

Mike Jacobs (29 years old):
562 AB ; 71 R ; 29 HR ; 90 RBI ; .253 AVG



And what about this season (in the minors)?

Mike Jacobs
371 AB ; 53 R ; 15 HR ; 57 RBI

Brett Wallace:
385 AB ; 64 R ; 18 HR ; 61 RBI

B2theRY
07-30-2010, 05:34 PM
Wallace and Jacobs are the EXACT same player.. one is just older... but not by many years.


I dont mind the move.
AA hasnt done one thing yet where i have gone... WTF?

Wallace to me is a dime a dozen, you can always find a 1B
you cant always find a good OF, a REAL OF.. most OFs are guys who failed in the INF (a la Ryan Braun)

Bob_at_york
07-30-2010, 05:35 PM
When is Ruiz nowadays?:rolleyes:
I think he is in Japan playing ball.

boilerguy2412
07-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Yes, thank god we finally found our first basemen of the future. I can rest easy tonight.

Twitchy
07-30-2010, 05:52 PM
There is a stat category in Baseball-Reference named '162 Game Average'...
This is an attempt to condense each batter's career into a single season's worth of stats... It's helpful if you want to compare two players!

Lyle Overbay (33 years old):
555 AB ; 74 R ; 17 HR ; 74 RBI ; .276 AVG

Mike Jacobs (29 years old):
562 AB ; 71 R ; 29 HR ; 90 RBI ; .253 AVG

That's all fine and dandy, until you see that Jacobs has a 313 OBP. At which point Jacobs isn't worth throwing out there.


And what about this season (in the minors)?

Mike Jacobs
371 AB ; 53 R ; 15 HR ; 57 RBI

Brett Wallace:
385 AB ; 64 R ; 18 HR ; 61 RBI

Jacobs - 260-316-478 (AAA)
Wallace - 301-359-509 (AAA)


Wallace and Jacobs are the EXACT same player.. one is just older... but not by many years.

They're complete opposites of each other. Jacobs struggles to make contact, hits a ton of homers, and doesn't get on base. Wallace hits for average, does a decent job of getting on base, and doesn't hit a ton of HR's. They're nothing alike.


Wallace to me is a dime a dozen, you can always find a 1B
you cant always find a good OF, a REAL OF.. most OFs are guys who failed in the INF (a la Ryan Braun)

If Wallace is a dime a dozen player and the Astros traded for him, doesn't that imply that Gose is a poor player? If it's so easy to acquire 1B like Wallace, and Wallace was traded for Gose, then Gose can't be that valuable.

GoblinofPain
07-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Lol Gose has a lot of proving to do. Pressure!

bomber0104
07-30-2010, 06:07 PM
why are people angry.. this is gonna be for cash or a useless minorleaguer

2009mvp
07-30-2010, 06:23 PM
Now here's a fellow who knows how to play Cito-ball! I'm kinda pumped to see how many he can hit out in Vegas to be honest, it's not like this affects anything in anyway (assuming he didn't cost anything of any value - and I mean any value).

wamco
07-30-2010, 06:23 PM
AA hasnt done one thing yet where i have gone... WTF?

Straight up lie after yesterdays trade.

He is a platoon 1bman. Career obp vs RHP is 828. That has some value

Shark
07-30-2010, 06:42 PM
You could clearly seperate the people with half a brain+ to the ones who dont have one at all.

The ones with a brain clearly understand this move, the ones who dont are writing "pointless".

This could clearly just mean he's going to hold the AAA 1b spot until its filled or it could also mean Overbay is on his way out and Jacobs will just fill that void.

Halladay
07-30-2010, 06:47 PM
Jacobs is brutal. He's had one really good season but even when you consier his position, that year wasn't really anything special. It is what it is, he was traded for to simply bring in a replacement at triple A for Wallace.

Jays52
07-30-2010, 06:58 PM
we'll see

Asham
07-30-2010, 07:00 PM
Our 1st baseman for the future

wamco
07-30-2010, 07:50 PM
overbay's career ops vs rhp is like .12 higher than jacobs

B2theRY
07-30-2010, 07:56 PM
AA hasnt done one thing yet where i have gone... WTF?

Straight up lie after yesterdays trade.

He is a platoon 1bman. Career obp vs RHP is 828. That has some value

how can you judge yesterdays trade?

neither player has played a game in the majors...
thats a moronic comment to make to say its a horrible trade.

Oakland, St.Louis and Now Toronto have all traded Wallace away so that means they all know more than you.

so in 4 years when Gose is on the Jays and lets say he steals 50 sbs.
are you going to be saying, wow what a trade?

or will you still say AA was stupid?

B2theRY
07-30-2010, 07:57 PM
Jacobs is NOT the jays future 1B

stop getting all your panties in a knot.
I believe the real reason why Wallace was dealt was because they plan on using Lind as their future 1B

they are probably exactly the same defensively.
so why not open your DH spot to someone else?

wamco
07-30-2010, 08:07 PM
neither player has played a game in the majors...
thats a moronic comment to make to say its a horrible trade.

Talk about moronic comments. As if players in the minors can't have different values. So before the season, if the nats traded Strasburg for Gose, you would have said the same thing? Of course not. Quit sniffing the GM's zipper.

broncosfan_101
07-30-2010, 10:06 PM
AA hasnt done one thing yet where i have gone... WTF?

Straight up lie after yesterdays trade.

He is a platoon 1bman. Career obp vs RHP is 828. That has some value

Some value?? :p

wamco
07-30-2010, 11:35 PM
I don't understand the question.

828 ops vs rhp for jacobs
840 ops vs rhp for overbay fyi


Are you looking for the definition of some?

StealingSigns
07-31-2010, 12:03 AM
We all know Jacobs isn't the future, right? Stopgap AAA first baseman for crying out loud?

broncosfan_101
07-31-2010, 01:12 PM
I don't understand the question.

828 ops vs rhp for jacobs
840 ops vs rhp for overbay fyi


Are you looking for the definition of some?

Re-read your other post, with the part that I bolded.