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JordansBulls
07-29-2010, 11:25 PM
Danny Granger

In 2010 he averaged

24.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg and 2.8 apg last year on 43% FG



In 2009 he averaged

25.7 ppg, 5.1 rpg , and 2.7 apg on 45% FG

Raidaz4Life
07-29-2010, 11:26 PM
Danny Granger is the ideal second option. Championship team or not.

BrotherRedz
07-29-2010, 11:27 PM
Prob 3rd, crap team really does inflate stats

JPHX
07-29-2010, 11:28 PM
i would say so. I didnt like him though after he tried to start **** in phoenix.

clehmun
07-29-2010, 11:29 PM
Is he better than:

gasol?
rondo/pierce? (depending on who you think first option is)
wade/lebron? (again depending on who you think first option is)

i say he's a 2nd tier 2nd option if that makes sense.

JPHX
07-29-2010, 11:34 PM
Is he better than:

gasol?
rondo/pierce? (depending on who you think first option is)
wade/lebron? (again depending on who you think first option is)

i say he's a 2nd tier 2nd option if that makes sense.

Thats kinda misleading though. All those guys are surrounded by great players or are on superteams.

Bruno
07-29-2010, 11:35 PM
Yea. Put Granger and Howard together, see what happen. It's never just about two guys, but with the right supporting cast and legit big Granger is a pretty ideal slashing/scoring wing player/2nd option, if you wana call it that. If he could throw the ball into a big, maybe his assist number go up to 4-5 per game.

Kobe5RingKing
07-29-2010, 11:36 PM
His okay on a bad team...but hey everyone thought pau gasol was a good player on a bad team also soooo you never know

Kobe5RingKing
07-29-2010, 11:36 PM
He would be great as a 2 or even 3rd

BrotherRedz
07-29-2010, 11:37 PM
Thats kinda misleading though. All those guys are surrounded by great players or are on superteams.

But SuperTeams has the highest chance of winning a title thus a championship caliber team ... yeah since 2007-2008 season First SuperTeam Boston Celtic = Champion, 2nd Super team Lakers Seasons 2008-10 Champs

DONT YOU AGREE?

xxplayerxx23
07-29-2010, 11:37 PM
Yea. Put Granger and Howard together, see what happen. It's never just about two guys, but with the right supporting cast and legit big Granger is a pretty ideal slashing/scoring wing player/2nd option, if you wana call it that. If he could throw the ball into a big, maybe his assist number go up to 4-5 per game.

:clap: I was just about to right put him on orlando and yeah he would be

ALL_i-Do_is-Win
07-29-2010, 11:39 PM
yeah he is def a second option
he is a efficient scorer and can hit 3 very well
he is the 4th best sf in the league behind lbj,durant,melo
i would take him anyday for deng
before he was scorer he was known for his defense which means he is a great defender
just year two years ago he was 3rd in fantasy bball

clehmun
07-29-2010, 11:41 PM
Thats kinda misleading though. All those guys are surrounded by great players or are on superteams.

Guess so. But hey, that's what it takes to win a championship nowadays.:o

xxplayerxx23
07-29-2010, 11:41 PM
Put him on chiago for deng and he is too

eggy10
07-29-2010, 11:42 PM
I think it depends on matchups a team faces but he'd fit on teams like the Jazz, Hornets, Blazers, Nets, Bucks as a 2a/2b option and probably make them top playoff/championship contenders.
1- Dwill 2-Jefferson/Granger
1-Paul 2-Okafor or West?/Granger
1-Roy 2-Aldridge/Granger
1-Harris 2-Lopez/Granger
1-Jennings 2-Bogut or Salmons/Granger

ALL_i-Do_is-Win
07-29-2010, 11:44 PM
people are underrating granger now
he is the 4th best sf in the league behind lbj,durant,melo
i would take him anyday for deng
before he was scorer he was known for his defense which means he is a great defender
just year two years ago he was 3rd in fantasy bball
there are not many players in the league with his height and has a complete game has him

blastmasta26
07-29-2010, 11:48 PM
Granger's a very solid player, he's definitely an ideal #2 on a title team. Putting him on Orlando was a great example, Magic would be hard to stop with him.

_KB24_
07-29-2010, 11:49 PM
Don't seem him as a superstar. He would have to be with a DOMINANT Center just to be have a legit shot at a ring.

97NYer
07-29-2010, 11:51 PM
Granger could be the man with a better supporting cast. I could see him on the Magic, Hornets or Jazz as a second option.

ALL_i-Do_is-Win
07-29-2010, 11:53 PM
imagine him with bulls could easily be second or third
rose
brewer?t-mac?
granger
boozer
noah

HoopsDrive
07-29-2010, 11:55 PM
He'd be great as a 2nd option, maybe 3rd. Putting him on the Magic or Jazz would be great for him and their teams.

The Prodigy
07-29-2010, 11:57 PM
People are looking at this wrong.
Being the number one option on a team is different from being the best player on a team.
A team consisting of Billups/ R.Brewer/ Granger/ Aldridge/ Howard is a championship caliber team Where he would be the number 1 option but not necessarily the best or even 2nd best player on the team.
Its all about how the team is made up.

celticsfan336
07-29-2010, 11:59 PM
without a doubt a number 2 star. he is underrated as a star. the guy can flat out score.

MrfadeawayJB
07-30-2010, 12:00 AM
yeah he is def a second option
he is a efficient scorer and can hit 3 very well
he is the 4th best sf in the league behind lbj,durant,melo
i would take him anyday for deng
before he was scorer he was known for his defense which means he is a great defender
just year two years ago he was 3rd in fantasy bball



Rudy Gay is better than Danny Granger!

ALL_i-Do_is-Win
07-30-2010, 12:00 AM
People are looking at this wrong.
Being the number one option on a team is different from being the best player on a team.
A team consisting of Billups/ R.Brewer/ Granger/ Aldridge/ Howard is a championship caliber team Where he would be the number 1 option but not necessarily the best or even 2nd best player on the team.
Its all about how the team is made up.

it is true
take heat for exmaple
lbj is better player but wade is going to be # 1 option

bholly
07-30-2010, 12:03 AM
Indy fans are going to hate this thread.

nanablvd
07-30-2010, 12:03 AM
he should be a very very good second option. As long as he remains the number one option his team will never win the champion.

The Prodigy
07-30-2010, 12:13 AM
he should be a very very good second option. As long as he remains the number one option his team will never win the champion.

So a team that consists of Billups/ R.Brewer/ Granger/ Aldridge/ Howard and a good bench couldnt win the championship??

ALL_i-Do_is-Win
07-30-2010, 12:14 AM
Rudy Gay is better than Danny Granger!

not @ all
i think he can be better then granger soon
but his stats don't prove it...

granger's stats are almost elite like stat stats
24 5 5 ?
i know gay is good and is going to get better but he is proven he is only a little bit better then deng
his stats are an't impressive
deng 17 and 7
gay 19 and 6

Chacarron
07-30-2010, 12:17 AM
He's had too many injuries. He is similar to Durant except KD has been healthy and has a better team.

John Walls Era
07-30-2010, 12:58 AM
A team has more than 2 players, but assuming everyone else is avg; I would say yes.

jimbobjarree
07-30-2010, 01:03 AM
he'd be absolutely perfect in Utah between Al Jeff's dominant post game and Deron Williams elite point guarditude :drool:

THE MTL
07-30-2010, 01:26 AM
Def a second option on a championship team. But he isnt going anywhere. Larry Bird is content with DOING ABSOLUTELY nothing for that franchise. So dull with no plan in sight.

hugepatsfan
07-30-2010, 01:44 AM
He needs a dominant PG and a great post scorer. Put him w/ those two things, and he is a leading scorer for a champ contending team.

MJ-BULLS
07-30-2010, 02:03 AM
id say he could be a 2nd option on a contending team.

but he needs a good PG with him.

HouRealCoach
07-30-2010, 02:13 AM
He is not a true second option... He is did no different than Monta Ellis, David Lee, and Stephen Jackson(First half of season)... We all know they are no where near legit 2nd options

HornetsSolution
07-30-2010, 02:23 AM
He's an elite scorer so he's a great second option with a good team around him. I always wanted to know is that is he strickly a 3? Or can he play the 2 as well.

Raph12
07-30-2010, 02:32 AM
I'd take him over VC any day of the week... Maybe we should get something done there, hmmm.

Jeff559
07-30-2010, 02:41 AM
hard to put him in that category with the forming of the "superteam" in miami. Put him on the magic and get a billups, nash or rondo running the point then maybe..

Jeff559
07-30-2010, 02:43 AM
He is not a true second option... He is did no different than Monta Ellis, David Lee, and Stephen Jackson(First half of season)... We all know they are no where near legit 2nd options
By using that logic you could easily put kobe bosh or KG in to that group. when they had ****** squads they didnt do much at all. And granger has a REALLY ****** team around him.

ChiTownPacerFan
07-30-2010, 02:51 AM
Since clearly none of you watch Pacer games, not that I blame you, let me clarify something. Danny Granger is a shooter, not a scorer. He shot more three pointers than free throws last year. I'm gonna say that again because I think it bears repeating: Danny Granger shot more three pointers than free throws last year. Durant, on the other hand, shot more than twice as many free throws as threes, and KD shot a better % from three than Danny. Calling Danny an elite scorer is like calling David Lee an elite defender, it just shows you don't watch the games.

gbrl
07-30-2010, 03:01 AM
^ dont matter how you score he was top 10 last two years in ppg so he is a top scorer

Mplsman
07-30-2010, 04:55 AM
Yes.

phizics44
07-30-2010, 05:28 AM
He is a beast. I think he could a good first option.
Put him on the hawks. I think he is better then joe johnson

HouRealCoach
07-30-2010, 05:52 AM
By using that logic you could easily put kobe bosh or KG in to that group. when they had ****** squads they didnt do much at all. And granger has a REALLY ****** team around him.

Actually Kobe won as the second best player on his team before he had a wack squad, KG, and Bosh both led their teams to the playoffs but GRanger is yet to be a threat with his... and come on you cant tell the difference with Monta Ellis in 2010 from Kobe in 2006?

S-Dot
07-30-2010, 09:04 AM
He is a beast. I think he could a good first option.
Put him on the hawks. I think he is better then joe johnson

They still wouldn't win a championship.

The guy's a great talent. But he has to be the second option in order to win a championship. Since he's become the first option in Indiana, they haven't made the playoffs. A first option would at least get his team to the playoffs in the East. I'm not knocking his game, but he is a 2nd option on a championship calibur team.

JordansBulls
07-30-2010, 11:42 AM
I think he would be the missing piece for the Magic or Bulls.

S-Dot
07-30-2010, 11:44 AM
I think he would be the missing piece for the Magic or Bulls.

I agree, he's an upgrade from deng at this point for the Bulls, and an upgrade from Rahard Lewis with the Magic.

BaustinSali08
07-30-2010, 11:48 AM
Indy fans are going to hate this thread.

Why? We know our team is in dire straights. I think Indy fans will appreciate what we have in Granger. Of course Bird has said he isn't going to be traded. You can look, but you can't touch.

Jaji
07-30-2010, 12:42 PM
2nd or 3rd. 2.5 I guess. You'd need a banger to go with him because he's not gonna rebound or intimidate anyone.

ziglur
07-30-2010, 01:49 PM
Its hard to say how good Granger can be. The Pacers have the worst coaching in the NBA. No real plan and no direction. Hes mainly a shooter because this team is not a driving team they just shoot and get back on defense. The point guards are confused and shoot in desperation before the clock runs out. If Granger cuts to the basket now , nobody will know to get hm the ball. With some good coaching I think it would be a whole new game for Granger and he might be similar to Durant.

Lloyd Christmas
07-30-2010, 02:06 PM
I see Granger the same way I see Brandon Roy. He is a smooth very solid player who doesn't get the same recognition as other players because he isn't flashy. Put either Roy or Granger with a top big man in the league and they would compete for a championship.

Chronz
07-30-2010, 03:09 PM
They still wouldn't win a championship.

The guy's a great talent. But he has to be the second option in order to win a championship. Since he's become the first option in Indiana, they haven't made the playoffs. A first option would at least get his team to the playoffs in the East. I'm not knocking his game, but he is a 2nd option on a championship calibur team.
I disagree with just about everything you said

Lake_Show2416
07-30-2010, 03:24 PM
HE'S a #1

if they actually surround him with good players

S-Dot
07-30-2010, 03:48 PM
I disagree with just about everything you said

Have the Pacers made the playoffs with him as a #1 option? And if he went to Atlanta, they probably wouldn't win a championship, and Joe Johnson would be their #1 option. You think he can lead a team to a championship as their #1 option? I personally don't, but I may be wrong :shrug:

scutch11
07-30-2010, 04:24 PM
I think he would be the missing piece for the Magic or Bulls.

good call, put him on the magic and i truly think that theyre close to if not the best team in the league

JordansBulls
08-01-2010, 10:28 AM
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/shaun_powell/07/29/pacers.future/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

footballer2369
08-01-2010, 11:32 AM
Great 2nd option, poor 1st option, best 3rd option ever.

xbrackattackx
08-01-2010, 11:34 AM
He isn't quite a super star but he's on the same level as Iggy,Roy,Howard they just need a great super star to go with them.

Kakaroach
08-01-2010, 11:46 AM
I think he can be the first option on a winning team. Surround him with a good low-post scoring big man, a PG who can make things happen, and good role players and I think you have a damn good team.

KnicksorBust
08-01-2010, 11:52 AM
Danny Granger

In 2010 he averaged

24.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg and 2.8 apg last year on 43% FG



In 2009 he averaged

25.7 ppg, 5.1 rpg , and 2.7 apg on 45% FG

Considering he shoots about 8 threes per game that FG% is f'ing incredible. Granger is definately good enough to be a 2nd option on a title team.

JordansBulls
08-01-2010, 04:52 PM
Considering he shoots about 8 threes per game that FG% is f'ing incredible. Granger is definately good enough to be a 2nd option on a title team.

Good grief, he shoots that many 3's a game?

sargon21
08-01-2010, 05:05 PM
i agree with some1 posted above, poor/decent 1st option, great 2nd option, incredible 3rd option -- the bulls for example would be a great fit for him, surrounded by an elite, or soon to be elite pg in rose and a good post scorer in boozer -- same can be said about utah with dwill and jefferson

Giants-49ers-Ws
08-01-2010, 05:18 PM
Granger is a co-number 1...he doesn't need to be a second option unless he's playin with carmelo, kobe, lebron, wade, durant

PHXfan09
08-01-2010, 05:20 PM
Pacers may make the playoffs but will never be legit contenders with him as the number 1 option. That said hes always been one of my favorite players and Id love to see what he could do on the Mavs or Rockets

Redbull
08-01-2010, 05:45 PM
I would take him as my 2nd option anyday.

Khalifa21
08-01-2010, 06:19 PM
He is literally the perfect 2nd option... A team with him as the best player would never even make it out of the first round.

DerekRE_3
08-01-2010, 06:22 PM
We won't know till he's on a championship team, but I can see him being a great #2 option on a contender.

thedfactor
08-01-2010, 06:51 PM
Dirk and Granger. Nice 1/2 punch.

JordansBulls
08-01-2010, 10:27 PM
I would take him as my 2nd option anyday.

You think he would be the 2nd option on the Bulls?

Jaji
08-01-2010, 10:41 PM
Granger > Jamison

Dallas Tx4Life
08-01-2010, 10:43 PM
Granger is a co-number 1...he doesn't need to be a second option unless he's playin with carmelo, kobe, lebron, wade, durant

Yeah, the fact that this question is asked shows how truely underrated he is. He would be one of the best second options in the NBA.

TrippKingz
08-01-2010, 10:44 PM
He's definitely a GREAT 2nd option.

d-baller23
08-01-2010, 10:45 PM
I'll take Granger on the Magic anyday of the week.

Brooklyn Mets
08-01-2010, 10:54 PM
Yes.
Granger got game.

HoosierDaddy
08-01-2010, 11:04 PM
He's a great number one option. Pacers in the playoffs for sure this year. I can feel it.

JordansBulls
08-02-2010, 08:36 AM
He's a great number one option. Pacers in the playoffs for sure this year. I can feel it.

It would be nice for the Pacers to make the playoffs. I hope it happens.

S-Dot
08-02-2010, 09:09 AM
You think he would be the 2nd option on the Bulls?

Actually JB, a situation there would be interesting. Because you would have him, Boozer, and Derrick Rose. On any given night, one of those guys could be the 1st option. It would depend on matchups.

thenaj17
08-02-2010, 09:17 AM
Yea. Put Granger and Howard together, see what happen. It's never just about two guys, but with the right supporting cast and legit big Granger is a pretty ideal slashing/scoring wing player/2nd option, if you wana call it that. If he could throw the ball into a big, maybe his assist number go up to 4-5 per game.

He's just a Rashard Lewis style/calibre of player so 2nd/3rd option

thenaj17
08-02-2010, 09:24 AM
Considering he shoots about 8 threes per game that FG% is f'ing incredible. Granger is definately good enough to be a 2nd option on a title team.

It depends who the number 1 option is. If its a top big man, then he would be a good 2nd option, if anyone else then the reality is that there are too many elite teams with better 2nd options.

It also depends of course on who the 3rd/4th options are and the make up of the role players.

He is without doubt a borderline allstar talent.

xbrackattackx
08-02-2010, 10:40 AM
He needs to go to the Magic, And take the SF position. They would be amazing.

Raoul Duke
08-02-2010, 10:48 AM
He's a beast. It feels wrong to me to call him a "2nd option". Dude's got a grown man's game. He could be the first option on a contender if he had the right team/system.

sixer04fan
08-02-2010, 10:50 AM
He would absolutely be a great 2nd option for a championship contender. Maybe being on a **** team does inflate his stats, but he's an incredible athlete that can shoot very well and defend. Definitely allstar quality, and being on indiana keeps him under the radar.

JordansBulls
08-02-2010, 12:43 PM
Actually JB, a situation there would be interesting. Because you would have him, Boozer, and Derrick Rose. On any given night, one of those guys could be the 1st option. It would depend on matchups.

I totally agree with this. We would be similar to the Boston Celtics in 2008 with our top players changing each night.

IndyRealist
08-02-2010, 01:18 PM
Good grief, he shoots that many 3's a game?

Last year Granger had a foot injury that kept him from elevating or driving to the basket. The year before he took around 7.5 3's a game at 40% 3pt shooting.

Granger is more of a 1b option than a 2nd option. He's definitely a prolific scorer, and when uninjured he's a terror going to the rim. But he'll never really be a 1st option because he's primarily a jump shooter who doesn't draw defenders, so he can't free up his teammates. Someone else will always have to be on the team to command doubles. Pair him with even a 3rd tier post scorer and he'll light it up.

I've said it elsewhere, Danny Granger and Kevin Durant have virtually the same size, build, and skillset. The difference is that Durant attacks the basket and draws doubles constantly, whereas Granger floats around the 3pt line.

S-Dot
08-02-2010, 01:23 PM
I totally agree with this. We would be similar to the Boston Celtics in 2008 with our top players changing each night.

I saw potential in Deng at the 3. Maybe the improvement of Derrick Rose and the addition of Boozer can help him:shrug:

BOSTON617
08-02-2010, 01:34 PM
on teams like

celtics
atl
magic
heat
lakers

he would be a 3rd option

on teams like
oklc
bucks
nuggets
mavs
etc

he would be a 2nd option

tredigs
08-02-2010, 01:36 PM
I'll take Granger on the Magic anyday of the week.

Exactly. The Magic are already considered contenders by most, and if Granger was on their team he would be their first option. Swap him for Vince and the team definitely gets better.

On a well balanced lineup like that he could be the 1st option on a contender (even if he was the 2nd best player overall), but ideally you'd have him as a co #1 to an elite big and some strong role players. This guy is a much better player than most of you are giving him credit for. His team is crap, that's why they don't go anywhere. This IS a team, still...

JordansBulls
08-02-2010, 02:38 PM
I saw potential in Deng at the 3. Maybe the improvement of Derrick Rose and the addition of Boozer can help him:shrug:

IF Deng ever got back to how he was in 2007 when we played Miami we stand a great chance to beat them.

Chronz
08-02-2010, 02:39 PM
Wait so you think Rose is going to be the first option JB, may I ask why?

thekmp211
08-02-2010, 02:45 PM
granger would be a great fit in orlando. perfect.