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MooseWithFleas
07-29-2010, 02:59 PM
The players in the Oswalt deal, which is still not official: J.A. Happ, OF Anthony Gose, SS Jonathan Villar. #Phillies #Astros #MLB


Deal is done. #Astros #Phillies #MLB

Source: Ken Rosenthal (http://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal)


All media outlets are also reporting that the Phils will receive $11m.

mikeman0000
07-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Epic rape

TheRuckus
07-29-2010, 03:01 PM
Amaro didn't completely **** this up? Hooray!

Zmaster52
07-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Astros got raped.

**** all. goddammit

MooseWithFleas
07-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Villar is a shortstop who has played very well offensively this season, but has made a staggering 42 errors at short.

Gose is a 5-tool CF prospect. Tremendous speed, and there is some power potential, but he is still quite raw. Michael Bourn is a comparable player, possibly with some more pop. Ways to go, but he played in A+ ball this year at age 19.

Most of you already know Happ, who is a #4 who has over performed the past year

billyocean15
07-29-2010, 03:03 PM
does this mean we have a better chance of resigning werth too?

PhillyForLife90
07-29-2010, 03:03 PM
Such a steal for us. I can't believe we completely owned this deal.

Sixerlover
07-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Gave up a lot of nothing for a very good SP.. I'll take it!

Happ isn't nothing, but he is older than people assume, and has had many injury issues in the past. I love the deal

Lincecum4CY
07-29-2010, 03:05 PM
:facepalm: on houston


Wait...wait for it. Houston, we've got a problem! :laugh:



:hide: poor joke?

Sick Of It All
07-29-2010, 03:06 PM
Rape is not even enough of a word for what happen here.

Zmaster52
07-29-2010, 03:07 PM
:facepalm: on houston


Wait...wait for it. Houston, we've got a problem! :laugh:



:hide: poor joke?I liked it :shrug:

Damn yo, the Mets must feel really foolish for not going after him

yojoe792
07-29-2010, 03:08 PM
Ed Wade is going to hell.

Philly 4 Life
07-29-2010, 03:08 PM
we got 11 million for sure. I think that we can resign werth for sure now, because of moyers 8 million comen off to, that givess us 19 million to play with for next year

AllTimeBest
07-29-2010, 03:09 PM
Still like the Braves in the division :hide:

1908_Cubs
07-29-2010, 03:09 PM
Further proof the Houston Astros are on pace to become the Kansas City Royals of the NL for the next decade.

cambovenzi
07-29-2010, 03:09 PM
lame

Giants&Phils
07-29-2010, 03:10 PM
Steal!!

5Toolster
07-29-2010, 03:11 PM
How is Singleton not involved? Isn't that who Houston wanted

Wizard of O's
07-29-2010, 03:11 PM
Worst day ever.

Give Darryl Morey a second GM job.

defender4m
07-29-2010, 03:13 PM
what a rip off

Pinstripe pride
07-29-2010, 03:13 PM
steal or not, they still should have kept cliff lee

Philliefan90
07-29-2010, 03:15 PM
steal or not, they still should have kept cliff lee

wise words from a yankee fan.

Plain and simple. We got Oswalt, and not Lee right now.

Ill take Oswalts 4-0 2.26 era or w.e it is in the Bank.

baseballguy247
07-29-2010, 03:16 PM
i thought ozwalt only wanted to go to the phillies so i guess they had Houston by the b@lls

1903
07-29-2010, 03:17 PM
I think the Astros need more lube.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 03:17 PM
steal or not, they still should have kept cliff lee

Halladay for 4 seasons and Oswalt for 2 and a half is much better than Lee for 1 season.

Zmaster52
07-29-2010, 03:17 PM
Halladay
Lee
Oswalt
Hamels
Kendrick/Blanton

Holy **** i'd be scared

JDIsMyGod23
07-29-2010, 03:17 PM
Wellp, good to see TheRuckus won't have to stop posting.

Philliefan90
07-29-2010, 03:17 PM
he wanted to go to the cardinals actually, but he always wanted to be in a pennant race. he got his wish, and for some reason didnt have his option guarenteed.

MooseWithFleas
07-29-2010, 03:18 PM
The meager haul the D-backs got for Haren didn't help Wade's hand in trading Ozzy.

1903
07-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Does anyone think the Astros will file charges for rape?

SouthSideRookie
07-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Drayton Mclane and Tal Smith are TWO BIGGEST idiots to be running a baseball organization!!!!!!!!

Jetsguy
07-29-2010, 03:20 PM
there is no way that 11m in cash is involved in this too right? If so what a rediculous deal for the Phils

Kelly Gruber
07-29-2010, 03:20 PM
There weren't that many teams interested or capable of adding him. So I can see why the price was lower than expected. But damn...

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 03:21 PM
I am shocked... You dont give up next to nothing while not picking up the option and making the team that is trading their ace pay half the salary... O.O just wow.

ATL#22
07-29-2010, 03:21 PM
we got 11 million for sure. I think that we can resign werth for sure now, because of moyers 8 million comen off to, that givess us 19 million to play with for next year

Keep dreaming. This eliminates any chance of you signing him. You probably weren't going to without Oswalt so how does adding more payroll allow you to resign him??

bringinwood
07-29-2010, 03:22 PM
i thought ozwalt only wanted to go to the phillies so i guess they had Houston by the b@lls

He wanted to go to the Cardinals more apparently...


But, the Cards didn't want to come up to the pricetag that the Astros were asking ( more than likely because of the Cards being in their division) ...

The Phils wanted him, the Astros needed to get rid of him due to their finances, and the Phils were the only suitor...

However, you have to believe that if it was known prior that the Astros were going to eat 11MM of the 23 left on the deal, they would have had more teams involved....

Great job by the Phils brass... This was an epicly horrible blunder by the Astros front office...

Thanks Ed... ;)

ritz
07-29-2010, 03:25 PM
What a fleece job there. Wowzers.

Nymfan87
07-29-2010, 03:25 PM
Were the prospects that the Phillies traded acquired during the Ed Wade era? If that's the case, then it looks like a complete fleece because Wade overvalued guys that he liked as a GM.

Philly 4 Life
07-29-2010, 03:28 PM
Keep dreaming. This eliminates any chance of you signing him. You probably weren't going to without Oswalt so how does adding more payroll allow you to resign him??

no taking on all 23 million eliminateed us from resiging him, we are paying him 12 million dollars over the next yr n half, subtract moyers 8 mil nd that makes 4 million for oswlat. now, we give werth bout 9-11 mill next year, then in 11' raul nd lidge (both huge contracts off the books) then we give werth that much more money as his contract gets higher in years, start em out lower next year and work the way up as the years go up its simple.

ATL#22
07-29-2010, 03:30 PM
we got 11 million for sure. I think that we can resign werth for sure now, because of moyers 8 million comen off to, that givess us 19 million to play with for next year

Oh now I get it you are a moron. Of that 11 million half will the pay for the rest of Oswalt's contract this year. So say you have 6 million next year minus Oswalt's contract of 16 million. This leaves you down 10 + Moyer's 8 million is - 2 million. So you actually have - 2 million to sign Werth. Good luck.

Wizard of O's
07-29-2010, 03:30 PM
Does anyone think the Astros will file charges for rape?

make another rape joke and you are banned, sir

Philly 4 Life
07-29-2010, 03:31 PM
I honestly believe that we will get a bit of a discount especially with the pitching that we have now, and especially if we get bak to the playoffs this year, or i meant to say when the braves are in 2nd in the division because of our offense being back, and ur starting pitching is not even close to us right now because we are 3.5 bak rite now after being bak 7 last week, im glad ur braves had ur little run of (we are going to win it all for bobby and chip just like 95') but its time for the real team in the east to go bak to the WS again.

Nymfan87
07-29-2010, 03:32 PM
make another rape joke and you are banned, sir

I was unaware that you were a moderator :shrug:

TEXASTITAN
07-29-2010, 03:32 PM
i thought ozwalt only wanted to go to the phillies so i guess they had Houston by the b@lls


You are misinformed oswalt only wanted to go to the cardinals so the phillies didn't have anybody by the balls. Furthermore the astros didn't have to trade him right now they could have waited until the offseason or trade deadline next year so this deal is mind boggling at this point. Wade deserves to be fired and never have another job in a professional organizaion again. How you can give up 11 million and take on an injury prone starter in happ and 2 lower level prospects for your franchise pitcher is beyond me. It sickens the stomach to be quite honest.

McPeak92
07-29-2010, 03:32 PM
make another rape joke and you are banned, sir

When did you get ban powers?

bringinwood
07-29-2010, 03:33 PM
Does anyone think the Astros will file charges for rape?

I think to file charges, you have to actually complete a rape....

This raping won't be complete until the offseason after next....

AllTimeBest
07-29-2010, 03:34 PM
Does this move make the Braves bigger buyers here in the next 48 hours?

ATL#22
07-29-2010, 03:35 PM
I honestly believe that we will get a bit of a discount especially with the pitching that we have now, and especially if we get bak to the playoffs this year, or i meant to say when the braves are in 2nd in the division because of our offense being back, and ur starting pitching is not even close to us right now because we are 3.5 bak rite now after being bak 7 last week, im glad ur braves had ur little run of (we are going to win it all for bobby and chip just like 95') but its time for the real team in the east to go bak to the WS again.

Nobody give's discounts and you are still 3.5 back. Plus there are still 2 days before the deadline and we can trade for anybody because the Braves actually have a farm system

TheGiantYankee
07-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Does this move make the Braves bigger buyers here in the next 48 hours?

Who would they get though?

I could see them going all out for Bobby Cox

Young2Kinsler
07-29-2010, 03:36 PM
LMAO What a joke. Houston wanted Smoak and Holland in an Oswalt deal, and take table scraps for him now. Good job Lastros.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 03:36 PM
I still cant wrap my head around how this got done.

ritz
07-29-2010, 03:36 PM
Nobody give's discounts and you are still 3.5 back. Plus there are still 2 days before the deadline and we can trade for anybody because the Braves actually have a farm system

You are really mad right now.

Nymfan87
07-29-2010, 03:36 PM
Phillies lucked out that Ed Wade sucks balls as a GM.

AllTimeBest
07-29-2010, 03:37 PM
Who would they get though?

I could see them going all out for Bobby Cox

Corner outfielder? Someone like a Luke Scott or Corey Hart?

zambo4president
07-29-2010, 03:38 PM
Lilly's value goes up now. Goddamnit the Phils rotation is so sick now:sigh: I don't hate them though so I don't mind.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 03:38 PM
Nobody give's discounts and you are still 3.5 back. Plus there are still 2 days before the deadline and we can trade for anybody because the Braves actually have a farm system

:laugh:

Butthurt much???

Our farm system as produced guys like utley/Hamels/Howard and more... On top of that we have Brown and our system in the last 2 seasons got us 3 aces in Lee/Halladay/Oswalt... On top of that we will still probably be top 15 in the farm system area next season with all of the potential our lower A level has and the emergence of Singleton and cosart.

ATL#22
07-29-2010, 03:39 PM
You are really mad right now.

This is true. I was hoping the Braves wouldn't have to make a trade but now we need to

1903
07-29-2010, 03:41 PM
make another rape joke and you are banned, sir

Really? All of sudden you have the power to ban other posters? If a mod does not like my comment they are more than welcome to delete it and give a reason, PM me, or give out an infraction if it's against forum rules. Oh wait I get it, your probably an Astros fan and crying over this deal.

BaustinSali08
07-29-2010, 03:42 PM
LoLastros

Philly 4 Life
07-29-2010, 03:42 PM
Nobody give's discounts and you are still 3.5 back. Plus there are still 2 days before the deadline and we can trade for anybody because the Braves actually have a farm system

we have the best A prospects in all of baseball as Jayson stark said a week ago, we gave nobody up besides happ really for oswalt and 11 million dollars, and after use lose today to the nats becasue of rain we will be 2.5 bak after tonite, and wait oswalt pitches on friday rite? and then o0o wait its blanton then hamels and doc. That lead mite be gone in 5 days so enjoy it

TEXASTITAN
07-29-2010, 03:42 PM
LMAO What a joke. Houston wanted Smoak and Holland in an Oswalt deal, and take table scraps for him now. Good job Lastros.


Coming from a team thats NEVER even made a world series with ZERO playoff success those are big words buddy. You still have to win some postseason games before you can claim top team in texas considering how many years the rangers have sucked your really funny.

PHILLYNIKES
07-29-2010, 03:42 PM
Nobody give's discounts and you are still 3.5 back. Plus there are still 2 days before the deadline and we can trade for anybody because the Braves actually have a farm system

Sour Much?

Ron!n
07-29-2010, 03:46 PM
Phillie gave the 11 Million they didnt get it.

Nymfan87
07-29-2010, 03:47 PM
we have the best A prospects in all of baseball as Jayson stark said a week ago, we gave nobody up besides happ really for oswalt and 11 million dollars, and after use lose today to the nats becasue of rain we will be 2.5 bak after tonite, and wait oswalt pitches on friday rite? and then o0o wait its blanton then hamels and doc. That lead mite be gone in 5 days so enjoy it

I'm not going to confirm or deny Stark's statement, but Stark is a huge Philly homer. Take anything he says with a grain of salt.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Ok speaking from a non homer point of view for a sec which is hard... I get how ed wade ****ed this up... What I don't get is why the owner would allow him to do so...He wanted a kings ransom so he can gloat about it.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Phillie gave the 11 Million they didnt get it.

No the astros pick up 11 million of his contract... that is what was reported. You dont pick up 11 million in that deal.

MooseWithFleas
07-29-2010, 03:49 PM
Phillie gave the 11 Million they didnt get it.

No, the Phils definitely got the 11m in cash.

mark1125
07-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Wow. I can't help but think that the Astros could have gotten more. Good deal for the Phills.

Jetsguy
07-29-2010, 03:58 PM
Wow. I can't help but think that the Astros could have gotten more. Good deal for the Phills.

dude I cant see that sig every time you post...that is just too depresing

homie564
07-29-2010, 03:59 PM
awful. I can't believe they took that for oswalt.

Crzycjunx76
07-29-2010, 03:59 PM
No the astros pick up 11 million of his contract... that is what was reported. You dont pick up 11 million in that deal.

As much of a dunce as Wade may be he works for an even bigger one.


Astros owner Drayton McLane dealt directly with Phillies president David Montgomery to complete the complicated trade.

Rockets4Life
07-29-2010, 04:00 PM
To not even come out of the deal with 1B Jonathan Singleton just blows my mind. The astros got screwed in every way. Plus you have to throw in 11M. Are the Phillies the only team we know how to trade with. Ed and Drayton are complete idiots. They have no clue what they are doing.

Sick Of It All
07-29-2010, 04:01 PM
Why do people get this upset when a deal like this is done.

drama1386
07-29-2010, 04:01 PM
at least my brew crew doesn't have to face oswalt on friday! lol
but man, the astros did get raped...

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Rotation - Righty, Righty, Lefty, Righty, Righty.

Cliff lee isn't worth 16 million a year or 9 mill (sarcasm)

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Rotation - Righty, Righty, Lefty, Righty, Righty.

Cliff lee isn't worth 16 million a year or 9 mill (sarcasm)

He isn't nor will he be worth the 20 mill plus a year over the 7 plus years he gets it.

Philliefan90
07-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Rotation - Righty, Righty, Lefty, Righty, Righty.

Cliff lee isn't worth 16 million a year or 9 mill (sarcasm)

so Oswalt isnt worth 11-12 mil for the 1 1/2 year we got him?

Sick Of It All
07-29-2010, 04:05 PM
Oswalt is no match for the Dickey!!!!

Yes I was laughing as i typed that.

Philliefan90
07-29-2010, 04:05 PM
He isn't nor will he be worth the 20 mill plus a year over the 7 plus years he gets it.

Can honestly say, I have agreed with everything you have said. People need to forget Lee, thats long gone, its a new season that is 4 months in, and we still got a great staff now without him.

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:05 PM
He isn't nor will he be worth the 20 mill plus a year over the 7 plus years he gets it.Nor is Oswalt but the Astros and Dumbass Ed Wade over paid him to stay in Houston and now he's gone.

Rockets4Life
07-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Ed Wade must still think he is the GM of Philadelphia.

Sick Of It All
07-29-2010, 04:06 PM
He isn't nor will he be worth the 20 mill plus a year over the 7 plus years he gets it.

Well he will get that from the Yanks and they will win a few WS during that time, so it will be worth it for them and their fans.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 04:07 PM
Oswalt is no match for the Dickey!!!!

Yes I was laughing as i typed that.

Because the Dickey is big and strong... Oswalt wouldn't stand a chance. :laugh:

On a side note... I would love to have him in Philly... The name just owns.

Young2Kinsler
07-29-2010, 04:07 PM
Coming from a team thats NEVER even made a world series with ZERO playoff success those are big words buddy. You still have to win some postseason games before you can claim top team in texas considering how many years the rangers have sucked your really funny.

Yet we have the same amount of World Series games won....

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:08 PM
so Oswalt isnt worth 11-12 mil for the 1 1/2 year we got him?36 million for the next 2.5 years. I believe Oswalt wouldn't sign the no trade clause unless the team would pay his 2012 option.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 04:08 PM
Well he will get that from the Yanks and they will win a few WS during that time, so it will be worth it for them and their fans.

Yea he will get it... Even with Lee a world series or several is very far from a guarantee. Injuries/Age/let downs all happen.

Young2Kinsler
07-29-2010, 04:08 PM
He isn't nor will he be worth the 20 mill plus a year over the 7 plus years he gets it.

Lee isn't gettting 7 for 140, or anywhere near it. I see something like 4/72

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:08 PM
Well he will get that from the Yanks and they will win a few WS during that time, so it will be worth it for them and their fans.Yanks are getting Old

Sick Of It All
07-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Yanks are getting Old

...but their money is not running out anytime soon and well they have still quite a few stars in their prime.

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Lee isn't gettting 7 for 140, or anywhere near it. I see something like 4/72I'm sure that will be fine with him. plus a 5th year option

EaglesJackson10
07-29-2010, 04:10 PM
You are misinformed oswalt only wanted to go to the cardinals so the phillies didn't have anybody by the balls. Furthermore the astros didn't have to trade him right now they could have waited until the offseason or trade deadline next year so this deal is mind boggling at this point. Wade deserves to be fired and never have another job in a professional organizaion again. How you can give up 11 million and take on an injury prone starter in happ and 2 lower level prospects for your franchise pitcher is beyond me. It sickens the stomach to be quite honest.

Should I say I told you so or not dude cause...well....I was right. The Phillies were not giving up any of their top 3 prospects. That being said I wasn't expecting the anal rapeage that this trade was.

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:10 PM
...but their money is not running out anytime soon and well they have still quite a few stars in their prime.Doesn't look like the sons are running the bank account like the old man did. Was it the old man or the sons who sign CC and Tex?

No Fun League
07-29-2010, 04:11 PM
Should I say I told you so or not dude cause...well....I was right. The Phillies were not giving up any of their top 3 prospects. That being said I wasn't expecting the anal rapeage that this trade was.i think you should say it :D

Sick Of It All
07-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Doesn't look like the sons are running the bank account like the old man did. Was it the old man or the sons who sign CC and Tex?

The sons.

They will continue to give Cashman all the money he needs to sign as many guys as he feels it would take to win.

More-Than-Most
07-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Lee isn't gettting 7 for 140, or anywhere near it. I see something like 4/72

:facepalm: You really think he will settle for 4 years and 72 million dollars after waiting for free agency for several seasons while pitching the way he has and this being his last contract in his prime... Please dont be that guy. He is expected to get sabathia money and years and he will from someone.

Also note the Phillies tried to sign him and had contract talks and his agent balked at our price... we weren't even close on a deal for lee. If he were going to settle for 4 year 72 mill we would have signed him long term.

EaglesJackson10
07-29-2010, 04:16 PM
i think you should say it :D

Yeah that idiot thought the astros were gonna get Domonic Brown.

Rockets4Life
07-29-2010, 04:19 PM
You are misinformed oswalt only wanted to go to the cardinals so the phillies didn't have anybody by the balls. Furthermore the astros didn't have to trade him right now they could have waited until the offseason or trade deadline next year so this deal is mind boggling at this point. Wade deserves to be fired and never have another job in a professional organizaion again. How you can give up 11 million and take on an injury prone starter in happ and 2 lower level prospects for your franchise pitcher is beyond me. It sickens the stomach to be quite honest.


I dont understand it either. I would have told Roy "Sorry, looks like you are going to have to pitch for us cause nobody is offering anything close for a franchise player". Wade and drayton are the 2 biggest idiots in baseball. Have no clue what they are doing nor how to run a baseball team. I dont know how you can sign off on a trade like this. To trade your #1 pitcher and also pitch in 11M for 3 nobodys. Happ is in his 2nd year and most likely wont be on our roster in 2 years.

Rockets4Life
07-29-2010, 04:20 PM
Berkman will be gone soon so if Wade was smart he would of said no deal unless Singleton is included.

astros1981
07-29-2010, 04:33 PM
Roy probably looked at the prospects we were getting and just said to himself "I need to leave this joke of an organization". He is probably laughing all the way to Philly. Villar?! Really?! I can just imagine our front office celebrating as if we were the winners of this whole matter.

Young2Kinsler
07-29-2010, 04:36 PM
:facepalm: You really think he will settle for 4 years and 72 million dollars after waiting for free agency for several seasons while pitching the way he has and this being his last contract in his prime... Please dont be that guy. He is expected to get sabathia money and years and he will from someone.

Also note the Phillies tried to sign him and had contract talks and his agent balked at our price... we weren't even close on a deal for lee. If he were going to settle for 4 year 72 mill we would have signed him long term.

Lee is at the peak of his prime, if not an smidge on the downward half. I can't see anyone giving him more than 5 years.

crankyrayhanky
07-29-2010, 04:38 PM
The Mets (or anyone else) had no chance; this was a classic "buddy deal"
Thanks Wade!

cambovenzi
07-29-2010, 04:40 PM
Roy probably looked at the prospects we were getting and just said to himself "I need to leave this joke of an organization". He is probably laughing all the way to Philly. Villar?! Really?! I can just imagine our front office celebrating as if we were the winners of this whole matter.

They get happ and some salary relief.
but ehh. i agree they shouldnt be thrilled with this one.

npjcajun
07-29-2010, 04:49 PM
Horrible trade. Worse than the Haren deal for sure.

Jaydes
07-29-2010, 04:51 PM
FYI


Roy Oswalt has passed his physical will make his Phillies debut tomorrow night against Washington at Nationals Park.

If the Nationals thought that too many Phillies fans made their way to D.C. for the season opener, imagine what this might be like.

Oswalt is getting on a plane and flying into Washington tonight.

"He really wanted to pitch tomorrow. He didnt want to wait," agent Bob Garber told the Daily News. "Hes in great shape. Hes healthy. He feels good. A pitcher like Roy, you can pitch for a long time.

Oswalt was scheduled to pitch tomorrow night for Houston prior to the deal so he will remain on his usual turn. J.A. Happ was set to pitch for the Phillies.

As for the reports that Oswalt did not want to come to the Phillies, Garber said that was not the case.

"Roy never said he didnt want to go to Philadelphia," he said. "He never wavered about Philly. We never had anything in front of us until yesterday. He slept on it overnight and woke up and wanted to be with the Phillies.

Garber indicated the Oswalt camp figured the four teams that were involved were the Rangers, Cardinals, Yankees and Phillies.

The Astros get J.A. Happ, minor leaguers Anthony Gose and Jonathan Villar.

They also are expected to pay $11 million to the Phillies. Oswalt is owed about $5 million for the rest of the season and $12 million next season.

The Phillies did not extend Oswalt's $16 million option for 2012, but increased the buyout should the option not get extended, reportedly by $1 million.

"There was a change in the buyout," general manager Ruben Amaro said Jr. "[The amount was] not deemed significant."

The Phillies now have Oswalt, Roy Halladay and Cole Hamels at the top of their rotation.

"I like our chances with the three pitchers at the top of our rotation," Amaro said.

As for Oswalt waiving his no-trade clause, Amaro said, "Hes pretty excited about coming here. One of the things that he has as a result of his contract status is he had the right to refuse the trade. In some ways, were very fortunate he allowed himself to be traded to Philadelphia without really getting a whole lot for it."

Oswalt has had back issues in the past, but Amaro said the two team doctors and trainers and a back specialist were all consulted.

"We did our due diligence," Amaro said. "He has had injections. We knew about them. We know about them. We feel confident that at the very least he will be able to play at the level accustomed at least through the 2011 season."

Happ, 27, was 1-0 with a 1.76 ERA in three starts for the Phillies this season. He was originally selected by the club in the third round of the 2004 draft and finished second in National League Rookie of the Year voting last season. For his career, he is 14-5 with a 3.11 ERA in 47 games (31 starts).

Gose, 19, was hitting .263 with four home runs, 20 RBI and 36 stolen bases for single-A Clearwater. He was a second-round selection by the Phillies in the 2008 draft and led all minor league players in stolen bases (76) last season.

Villar, also 19, was hitting .272 with two home runs, 36 RBI and 38 stolen bases in 100 games for single-A Lakewood. A native of the Dominican Republic, Villar was originally signed as an amateur free agent by the Phillies in May of 2008.



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July 29, 2010 (Roy Oswalt Day)

Ezekial
07-29-2010, 04:59 PM
I used to watch Happ play for Northwestern when he and my cousin were on the team.

Although I don't think the Astros shoulda done this.

scutch11
07-29-2010, 05:09 PM
***** the phillies

redsox0717
07-29-2010, 05:26 PM
Rape

Bronzbomba
07-29-2010, 05:26 PM
I thought the phillies were nearly done this season. Now they have Oswalt in this marginal rape of a trade, and they have won 7 in a row as well. The braves are getting a little nervous, and the mets are about to give up.

brandt
07-29-2010, 05:35 PM
Ok speaking from a non homer point of view for a sec which is hard... I get how ed wade ****ed this up... What I don't get is why the owner would allow him to do so...He wanted a kings ransom so he can gloat about it.

Cause The Moron doesn't know **** about baseball, he just signs the checks.

StickyGreenFan
07-29-2010, 05:35 PM
wow houston wanted loney or kemp from the dodgers but accept this from philly?? what kinda **** is that....

AllKohn
07-29-2010, 05:40 PM
wow houston wanted loney or kemp from the dodgers but accept this from philly?? what kinda **** is that....

If your expecting sense coming from McLain McNobrain.....keep waiting

brandt
07-29-2010, 05:53 PM
Further proof the Houston Astros are on pace to become the Kansas City Royals of the NL for the next decade.

The differnce between the Astros and the Royals is that The Royals have alway sucked. The Astros have a MUCH bigger budget than the Royals do and their farm team is better than it was a few years ago. Yes, they made an aweful trade but that doesn't mean they can't recover.

-Lavigne43-
07-29-2010, 06:43 PM
This made me lol


Richard Justice just said the Astros scouts see JA Happ as a "Cliff Lee type"

http://twitter.com/lonestarball

The Jokemaker
07-29-2010, 06:52 PM
Great move by the Phillies. Rectified an earlier mistake without giving up too much. Definitely solidifies that rotation to make a 2nd half push for the division and in the playoffs. This year though, the Mets and Braves will give Philly more competition for the division than in year's past. I don't think this makes them a lock for the playoffs by any means. Still a deal that had to me made though.

And on a related note, where are all the "buying championship" people? If the Yanks made this deal there would be so much hate going on saying that. Their new payroll of 141 million is nothing to sneeze at. If you're going to criticize a team, criticize all teams and eliminate the double standard.

thomass
07-29-2010, 07:12 PM
happ was a good looking pitcher. gave the braves some trouble.

AllKohn
07-29-2010, 07:14 PM
Astros just flipped Gos and sexually molested the jays for howard.

It can't be rape if they're both consenting

Wrench
07-29-2010, 07:26 PM
Was this really the best deal they got offered? Wow....

HipSlappyJoe
07-29-2010, 07:40 PM
we got 11 million for sure. I think that we can resign werth for sure now, because of moyers 8 million comen off to, that givess us 19 million to play with for next year

actually more than 19, lgeoff jenkins and adam eaton's contracts come off the books i think. more than enough to sign werth and some relievers, or extend cole hamels

brandt
07-29-2010, 07:44 PM
This made me lol



http://twitter.com/lonestarball

Richard JUSTICE makes me laugh. This is the same guy that thought Chris Burk and Morgan Ensberg were the bomb. Where are they now? If you see the way this guy looks and talks, you will laugh even more.

BigLee53
07-29-2010, 08:29 PM
Houston - where Phillies go to die.

Michael Bourn
Brett Myers (altough he is having a great year.)
Pedro Feliz
JA Happ
Nelson Figueroa (i included him because he pitched this year for philly, claimed off waivers by Houton)
Jason Michaels

am i missing anyone?

TheRuckus
07-29-2010, 09:23 PM
actually more than 19, lgeoff jenkins and adam eaton's contracts come off the books i think. more than enough to sign werth and some relievers, or extend cole hamels

Ain't no money coming off the books that isn't being put right back on by raises. ****, Blanton's salary alone goes from $3 mil this year to $10.5 next.

MooseWithFleas
07-29-2010, 09:25 PM
Houston - where Phillies go to die.

Michael Bourn
Brett Myers (altough he is having a great year.)
Pedro Feliz
JA Happ
Nelson Figueroa (i included him because he pitched this year for philly, claimed off waivers by Houton)
Jason Michaels

am i missing anyone?

Geoff Geary!

SquirtReynolds
07-29-2010, 09:50 PM
Houston - where Phillies go to die.

Michael Bourn
Brett Myers (altough he is having a great year.)
Pedro Feliz
JA Happ
Nelson Figueroa (i included him because he pitched this year for philly, claimed off waivers by Houton)
Jason Michaels

am i missing anyone?

Randy Wolf. Or are we only saying players who have died there?

dodgerdave
07-29-2010, 11:08 PM
Geoff Geary!

Tommy Greene on the '93 squad.

dodgerdave
07-29-2010, 11:12 PM
Greg Gross
Sid Fernandez
Milt Thompson
Mitch Williams

SouthSideRookie
07-29-2010, 11:57 PM
LMAO What a joke. Houston wanted Smoak and Holland in an Oswalt deal, and take table scraps for him now. Good job Lastros.

What have the Rangers ever won!!! Out of all fans a Ranger fan decides to talk *******, someone who hasnt won anything ever, I guess the Phills front office were smarter than your GM in trading a top prospect for a 2 month rental. What do you know about pitching anyway, whos the last great pitcher in a Ranger uniform, umm? umm? umm? ohh wait Nolan Ryan

brandt
07-30-2010, 12:27 AM
Houston - where Phillies go to die.

Michael Bourn
Brett Myers (altough he is having a great year.)
Pedro Feliz
JA Happ
Nelson Figueroa (i included him because he pitched this year for philly, claimed off waivers by Houton)
Jason Michaels

am i missing anyone?


You mean where already dead Phillies go.

Illa215
07-30-2010, 12:42 AM
Great move by the Phillies. Rectified an earlier mistake without giving up too much. Definitely solidifies that rotation to make a 2nd half push for the division and in the playoffs. This year though, the Mets and Braves will give Philly more competition for the division than in year's past. I don't think this makes them a lock for the playoffs by any means. Still a deal that had to me made though.

And on a related note, where are all the "buying championship" people? If the Yanks made this deal there would be so much hate going on saying that. Their new payroll of 141 million is nothing to sneeze at. If you're going to criticize a team, criticize all teams and eliminate the double standard.

How is this the same thing at all?

The Phillies Team(Home Grown Players):
Jimmy Rollins
Chase Utley
Ryan Howard
Carlos Ruiz
Dom Brown
Shane Victorino(Rule V)
Cole Hamels
Kyle Kendrick
Ryan Madson
-- 6 Position Players, 2 Starting Pitchers, Set Up Man

Players Traded For:
Roy Halladay(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Roy Oswalt(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Joe Blanton(Traded 2 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Jamie Moyer(Traded NOTHING)
Brad Lidge(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)

Players Signed In FA(This is where we really see the Yanks-Phils spending Comparison...):
Raul Ibanez(3 Years, 33 Mill; Not exactly a huge signing)
Jayson Werth(Minor League Contract)
Placido Polanco(3 Years,18 Mill;Not even the best option at 3B)
JC Romero(Minor League Contract)
Chad Durbin
Jose Contreras
Danyz Baez

The players bolded were the guys that anybody could have signed or traded for. None of them are on the team because they opened up their wallets. Everyone else on the team is either homegrown, has been aqcuired by building through the draft and then trading them, or filling a small hole with a little signing.

After my calculations, it looks like exactly 5 players are on this team due to Dave Montgomery opening up his wallet:
Roy Halladay
Roy Oswalt
Brad Lidge
Raul Ibanez
Placido Polanco

3 of these players were acquired due to the Phillies having major holes:
Brad Lidge - Replaced Tom Gordon as our closer(Not a major trade)
Raul Ibanez - Replaced Pat Burrell(Not early in FA, not major)
Placido Polanco - Replaced Pedro Feliz(Not a major deal at all)

So, after all this, the Phillies have broken the bank to aqcuire two players:
Roy Halladay(Signed an extension on a discount, and was aqcuired by use of prospects)
Roy Oswalt(Was aqcuired by use of prospects, and the Astros are paying 11 mill remaining)

The Phillies have only been able to make two big moves in the last two years due to phenominal drafting and developing throughout the system.

The Phillies are not even compareable to the Yankees.

/Discussion.

Giants&Phils
07-30-2010, 01:40 AM
How is this the same thing at all?

The Phillies Team(Home Grown Players):
Jimmy Rollins
Chase Utley
Ryan Howard
Carlos Ruiz
Dom Brown
Shane Victorino(Rule V)
Cole Hamels
Kyle Kendrick
Ryan Madson
-- 6 Position Players, 2 Starting Pitchers, Set Up Man

Players Traded For:
Roy Halladay(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Roy Oswalt(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Joe Blanton(Traded 2 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Jamie Moyer(Traded NOTHING)
Brad Lidge(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)

Players Signed In FA(This is where we really see the Yanks-Phils spending Comparison...):
Raul Ibanez(3 Years, 33 Mill; Not exactly a huge signing)
Jayson Werth(Minor League Contract)
Placido Polanco(3 Years,18 Mill;Not even the best option at 3B)
JC Romero(Minor League Contract)
Chad Durbin
Jose Contreras
Danyz Baez

The players bolded were the guys that anybody could have signed or traded for. None of them are on the team because they opened up their wallets. Everyone else on the team is either homegrown, has been aqcuired by building through the draft and then trading them, or filling a small hole with a little signing.

After my calculations, it looks like exactly 5 players are on this team due to Dave Montgomery opening up his wallet:
Roy Halladay
Roy Oswalt
Brad Lidge
Raul Ibanez
Placido Polanco

3 of these players were acquired due to the Phillies having major holes:
Brad Lidge - Replaced Tom Gordon as our closer(Not a major trade)
Raul Ibanez - Replaced Pat Burrell(Not early in FA, not major)
Placido Polanco - Replaced Pedro Feliz(Not a major deal at all)

So, after all this, the Phillies have broken the bank to aqcuire two players:
Roy Halladay(Signed an extension on a discount, and was aqcuired by use of prospects)
Roy Oswalt(Was aqcuired by use of prospects, and the Astros are paying 11 mill remaining)

The Phillies have only been able to make two big moves in the last two years due to phenominal drafting and developing throughout the system.

The Phillies are not even compareable to the Yankees.

/Discussion.

+1000. I've seen this comparison too many times today, and it really makes me :facepalm:

Like, seriously. I don't even know what to say to this, absolutely ridiculous.

Dr.Philly
07-30-2010, 02:53 AM
How is this the same thing at all?

The Phillies Team(Home Grown Players):
Jimmy Rollins
Chase Utley
Ryan Howard
Carlos Ruiz
Dom Brown
Shane Victorino(Rule V)
Cole Hamels
Kyle Kendrick
Ryan Madson
-- 6 Position Players, 2 Starting Pitchers, Set Up Man

Players Traded For:
Roy Halladay(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Roy Oswalt(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Joe Blanton(Traded 2 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Jamie Moyer(Traded NOTHING)
Brad Lidge(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)

Players Signed In FA(This is where we really see the Yanks-Phils spending Comparison...):
Raul Ibanez(3 Years, 33 Mill; Not exactly a huge signing)
Jayson Werth(Minor League Contract)
Placido Polanco(3 Years,18 Mill;Not even the best option at 3B)
JC Romero(Minor League Contract)
Chad Durbin
Jose Contreras
Danyz Baez

The players bolded were the guys that anybody could have signed or traded for. None of them are on the team because they opened up their wallets. Everyone else on the team is either homegrown, has been aqcuired by building through the draft and then trading them, or filling a small hole with a little signing.

After my calculations, it looks like exactly 5 players are on this team due to Dave Montgomery opening up his wallet:
Roy Halladay
Roy Oswalt
Brad Lidge
Raul Ibanez
Placido Polanco

3 of these players were acquired due to the Phillies having major holes:
Brad Lidge - Replaced Tom Gordon as our closer(Not a major trade)
Raul Ibanez - Replaced Pat Burrell(Not early in FA, not major)
Placido Polanco - Replaced Pedro Feliz(Not a major deal at all)

So, after all this, the Phillies have broken the bank to aqcuire two players:
Roy Halladay(Signed an extension on a discount, and was aqcuired by use of prospects)
Roy Oswalt(Was aqcuired by use of prospects, and the Astros are paying 11 mill remaining)

The Phillies have only been able to make two big moves in the last two years due to phenominal drafting and developing throughout the system.

The Phillies are not even compareable to the Yankees.

/Discussion.

pwn3d


(haven't used that one in like 3 years lol)

More-Than-Most
07-30-2010, 03:26 AM
I hate when people bring up the buying championships bull... Even when they say so about the Yankees...We the fans in Philadelphia spend our hard earned money to go out and watch this team 81 games out of the year... We rush home from a long days work to watch this team 162 times a year... We buy ourselves and our kids merchandise and stay faithful to our home town team when they are good or bad. In return we ask that the front office of each of our home teams to do the best job that they can to put the best team on the field no matter if it comes through a trade or via free agency or a high prospect from the minors. The object is to win a world series... Not win a world series with a 40 or 50 or 60 million dollar pay roll. To be honest I am damn jealous of the Yankees... I would love for the Phillies front office to go out and spend 200 or 300 mill just because they can and by doing so at whatever costs to make our team better.

Most of our money has gone to taking care of our players that were here or came here in a trade because they deserved that raise because of the performance they continually show out there on the field... The fans are behind the players... the players are behind the manager... the manager is behind the Gm and Gm is behind the front office and owner. Our organization has become a high powered machine and have done so with our own home grown core. Winning is the objective... Not winning within a set of guide lines.

Roy
07-30-2010, 05:21 AM
How is this the same thing at all?

The Phillies Team(Home Grown Players):
Jimmy Rollins
Chase Utley
Ryan Howard
Carlos Ruiz
Dom Brown
Shane Victorino(Rule V)
Cole Hamels
Kyle Kendrick
Ryan Madson
-- 6 Position Players, 2 Starting Pitchers, Set Up Man

Players Traded For:
Roy Halladay(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Roy Oswalt(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Joe Blanton(Traded 2 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)
Jamie Moyer(Traded NOTHING)
Brad Lidge(Traded 3 Prospects, ALL HOME GROWN)

Players Signed In FA(This is where we really see the Yanks-Phils spending Comparison...):
Raul Ibanez(3 Years, 33 Mill; Not exactly a huge signing)
Jayson Werth(Minor League Contract)
Placido Polanco(3 Years,18 Mill;Not even the best option at 3B)
JC Romero(Minor League Contract)
Chad Durbin
Jose Contreras
Danyz Baez

The players bolded were the guys that anybody could have signed or traded for. None of them are on the team because they opened up their wallets. Everyone else on the team is either homegrown, has been aqcuired by building through the draft and then trading them, or filling a small hole with a little signing.

After my calculations, it looks like exactly 5 players are on this team due to Dave Montgomery opening up his wallet:
Roy Halladay
Roy Oswalt
Brad Lidge
Raul Ibanez
Placido Polanco

3 of these players were acquired due to the Phillies having major holes:
Brad Lidge - Replaced Tom Gordon as our closer(Not a major trade)
Raul Ibanez - Replaced Pat Burrell(Not early in FA, not major)
Placido Polanco - Replaced Pedro Feliz(Not a major deal at all)

So, after all this, the Phillies have broken the bank to aqcuire two players:
Roy Halladay(Signed an extension on a discount, and was aqcuired by use of prospects)
Roy Oswalt(Was aqcuired by use of prospects, and the Astros are paying 11 mill remaining)

The Phillies have only been able to make two big moves in the last two years due to phenominal drafting and developing throughout the system.

The Phillies are not even compareable to the Yankees.

/Discussion.

:hi5::cheers:

BigLee53
07-30-2010, 07:32 AM
all im gonna say is H20!!! :D

thefeckcampaign
07-30-2010, 08:05 AM
Ed Wade is going to hell.He had to pay back the Phillies someway. ;)

Got Braves?
07-30-2010, 10:19 AM
it really sucks for Happ, he was loyal to Philadelphia. He did everything for the Phillies. Now he's flushed and traded to the Astros like he's nothin. -_-

ChutsMcUtley
07-30-2010, 10:25 AM
it really sucks for Happ, he was loyal to Philadelphia. He did everything for the Phillies. Now he's flushed and traded to the Astros like he's nothin. -_-

Yeah I feel bad for him, but business is business. At least he didn't get traded to Japan for Kobayashi hhahaha

DzJackson10
07-30-2010, 10:53 AM
Nobody give's discounts and you are still 3.5 back. Plus there are still 2 days before the deadline and we can trade for anybody because the Braves actually have a farm system

Braves farm system, LOL:facepalm::clap:

idrinkpepsi
07-30-2010, 11:57 AM
This made me lol

http://twitter.com/lonestarball

:facepalm: