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baseballguru3
07-25-2010, 11:52 PM
C - Molina

1B - Pujols

2B - Chase

SS - Starlin Castro or Alexi Rameriez

3B - Zimmerman or Longoria

OF's - Tony Gwynn, Ichiro, Carl Crawford


Overall

1. Molina
2. Crawford
3. Mauer
3. Castro
4. Rameriez
5. Crawford
6. Ichiro
7. Tony Gywnn
8. Chase
9. Zimmerman
10. Longoria

Jack of Blades
07-25-2010, 11:57 PM
C - Molina
1B - Tex or Chris Davis (not a homer pick, he's right on par with Tex IMHO)
2B - Kendrick, Kinsler, or maybe Pedroia
SS - Andrus
3B - Beltre
OF - Gutierrez, Ichiro, and Hamilton or Hunter

long ball
07-25-2010, 11:57 PM
Dude loves making threads

McPeak92
07-25-2010, 11:58 PM
I am a Phillies fan and Chase isn't the best defensive 2nd baseman in the game.

baseballguru3
07-25-2010, 11:59 PM
C - Molina
1B - Tex or Chris Davis (not a homer pick, he's right on par with Tex IMHO)
2B - Kendrick, Kinsler, or maybe Pedroia
SS - Andrus
3B - Beltre
OF - Gutierrez, Ichiro, and Hamilton or Hunter

Kendrick isn't a good defender man. Not from what I seen.

sexicano31
07-26-2010, 12:00 AM
I am a Phillies fan and Chase isn't the best defensive 2nd baseman in the game.

you're right, hes the best defensive player overall in baseball for the past 4 years

Jack of Blades
07-26-2010, 12:02 AM
Kendrick isn't a good defender man. Not from what I seen.

I know I just didn't want to put only Kinsler in there because then everyone would think I'm a homer lol. He's not bad though.

More-Than-Most
07-26-2010, 12:06 AM
I am a Phillies fan and Chase isn't the best defensive 2nd baseman in the game.

lol he really is the best... he just never gets the recognition.

Eaglesfan05
07-26-2010, 12:07 AM
I am a Phillies fan and Chase isn't the best defensive 2nd baseman in the game.
Idk what you are watching

long ball
07-26-2010, 12:10 AM
lol he really is the best... he just never gets the recognition.

:laugh: your user name is almost as good as that guy whose user name was dogerssuck.

More-Than-Most
07-26-2010, 12:12 AM
:laugh: your user name is almost as good as that guy whose user name was dogerssuck.

Yea it is spelled wrong... It is a mistake... Next time I will get it right and maybe be as creative as you.. Long Ball O.O :D

beltran15mets
07-26-2010, 12:14 AM
C: Molina
1B: Tex
2B: Phillips
3B: Zimmerman
SS: Andrus
LF: Crawford
CF: Hunter/Beltran
RF: Francoeur(Rocket Arm)

long ball
07-26-2010, 12:15 AM
Yea it is spelled wrong... It is a mistake... Next time I will get it right and maybe be as creative as you.. Long Ball O.O :D

Nothing is spelled incorrectly :D
I suppose it was some what creative... no one else had picked it yet :rolleyes:

haha

More-Than-Most
07-26-2010, 12:17 AM
Nothing is spelled incorrectly :D
I suppose it was some what creative... no one else had picked it yet :rolleyes:

haha

Should have went with Dingle-berry. :laugh2:

:D

sf-fanatic
07-26-2010, 12:20 AM
1B should definitely be Travis Ishikawa...

long ball
07-26-2010, 12:20 AM
Should have went with Dingle-berry. :laugh2:

:D

I tried that, surprisingly it was taken. :shrug:

Yanks All Day
07-26-2010, 12:24 AM
Even though he doesn't always get to play, John McDonald is the best defensive shortstop I have seen in years.

More-Than-Most
07-26-2010, 12:27 AM
I tried that, surprisingly it was taken. :shrug:

Probably by a mets fan... It would fit. :win: Lol

YadiSTL
07-26-2010, 12:35 AM
C: Molina
1B: Tex
2B: Kinsler
3B: Zimmerman
SS: Andrus
LF: Crawford
CF: Bourn
RF: Ichiro

hustleloyrspct
07-26-2010, 12:46 AM
ur missing possibly the strongest throwing arm in the mlb in nick markakis no one even dares to try to score on him

Brooklyn Mets
07-26-2010, 12:52 AM
Overall

1. Molina
2. Crawford
3. Mauer
3. Castro
4. Rameriez
5. Crawford
6. Ichiro
7. Tony Gywnn
8. Chase
9. Zimmerman
10. Longoria


you have crawford twice and no pujols in top 10


C. Molina
1b. Tex
2b. Utley
SS. Andrus
3b. Zimmerman
LF. Crawford
CF. Hunter
RF. Ichiro

Top 10

Molina
Ichiro
Utley
Crawford
Zimmerman
Mauer
Tex
Andrus
Hunter
Pujols

bosox3431
07-26-2010, 12:56 AM
you have crawford twice and no pujols in top 10


C. Molina
1b. Tex
2b. Utley
SS. Andrus
3b. Zimmerman
LF. Crawford
CF. Hunter
RF. Ichiro

Top 10

Molina
Ichiro
Utley
Crawford
Zimmerman
Mauer
Tex
Andrus
Hunter
Pujols

Sorry Tex isn't the best fielding 1B. Theres a few better then him actually.

Also has this guy not found the comparisons forum yet?

Posey28
07-26-2010, 02:52 AM
ur missing possibly the strongest throwing arm in the mlb in nick markakis no one even dares to try to score on him

Victornio, Schierholtz and Franny all have better arms.

Epic89
07-26-2010, 03:31 AM
C- Molina
1B- Teixeira
2B- Kinsler
SS- Andrus
3B- Beltre
LF- Crawford
CF- Hunter
RF- Ichiro
P- Buehrle

hans dolo
07-26-2010, 03:41 AM
Victornio, Schierholtz and Franny all have better arms.


Is "Victornio" some new Italian player??? jk

but for everyone else, no love for jimmy rollins at ss anymore??
we are talking defense people. he's still the man defensively

ntat
07-26-2010, 04:12 AM
lol he really is the best... he just never gets the recognition.I think chase utley is talked about plenty, but he prob is the best 2nd baseman. I know he is on my squad, but i dont think freddy sanchez even has an error this year.

robdizzle3
07-26-2010, 04:43 AM
Alex Gonzalez should be up there for SS. Pujols is good, but I dont think he's the best. Ill give Tex the edge at first. Outfeild, there's a handful of guys that is at the top but the top 2 are Ichiro and Gutierrez. And 3rd base is Zimmerman by far imo.

Ian.
07-26-2010, 08:00 AM
This thread lacks some serious Franklin Gutierrez. No homer.

ahoda
07-26-2010, 08:48 AM
Jeter wins the GG every year for SS so that must mean hes the best defensive SS right?

:rofl:

ahoda
07-26-2010, 08:49 AM
Jeter wins the GG every year for SS so that must mean hes the best defensive SS right?

:rofl:

hans dolo
07-26-2010, 08:52 AM
chase utley works harder than 99.9% of all athletes in baseball, however, being that i watch every phillies game, i can certainly tell you he is NOT the best defensive 2nd baseman. he's solid, but not the best.

Jays Claw
07-26-2010, 10:35 AM
P - Mark Buehrle
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Dustin Pedroia
3B - Scott Rolen
SS - Elvis Andrus
LF - Carl Crawford
CF - Adam Jones
RF - Ichiro Suzuki

Overall - Jose Bautista, Evan Longoria, Carlos Pena, Joe Mauer, Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez, Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins etc.

projectk7
07-26-2010, 10:56 AM
This thread fails. How has no one even mentioned Omar Vizquel? He is by far the best fielding SS in the league today, if not all-time.

He is easily the best defensive player in the game.

Also, Orlando Hudson is definitely better than Chase Utley. O-Dawg is a beast defensively, the best 2B for sure.

JDMac80
07-26-2010, 10:57 AM
He may not be the best but Cano is nasty at 2b

I have never really watched kinsler

bagwell368
07-26-2010, 11:04 AM
He may not be the best but Cano is nasty at 2b

I have never really watched kinsler

He used to suck, now he's good, he's not Utley however.

Teix and AP are both good, but neither is the best at 1B.

Markakis? A few days ago a O's fan was singing his praises. I see him a lot. He's good, but not the best. If no one runs on him why does he get about 15 assists per year?

runnermjr1296
07-26-2010, 11:44 AM
I'm gonna go with Franklin Guitterez In CF

JonnyBrav000
07-26-2010, 11:54 AM
C - Molina

1B - Pujols

2B - Chase

SS - Starlin Castro or Alexi Rameriez

3B - Zimmerman or Longoria

OF's - Tony Gwynn, Ichiro, Carl Crawford



Overall

1. Molina
2. Crawford
3. Mauer
3. Castro
4. Rameriez
5. Crawford
6. Ichiro
7. Tony Gywnn
8. Chase
9. Zimmerman
10. Longoria


1B - Pujols/ Teixera

2B - Cano/ Orlando Hudson

SS - Alexi Rameriez

3B - Evan Longoria

OF's - Michael Bourn, Ichiro, Carl Crawford

P - Mariano Rivera

This is the list

Rndy
07-26-2010, 12:04 PM
1B - Pujols/ Teixera

2B - Cano/ Orlando Hudson

SS - Alexi Rameriez

3B - Evan Longoria

OF's - Michael Bourn, Ichiro, Carl Crawford

P - Mariano Rivera

This is the list

No offense but your list sucks.

1b Tex
2b Utley
3b Zimmerman
ss Andrus
Of's Crawford Gutierrez Ichrio.
P Buehrle

baseballguru3
07-26-2010, 12:07 PM
Andrus ia pretty much a consensus for SS - pretty impressive... then factor in his offensive capabilities....dude is a bigger beast than I thought.

projectk7
07-26-2010, 12:45 PM
No offense but your list sucks.

1b Tex
2b Utley
3b Zimmerman
ss Andrus
Of's Crawford Gutierrez Ichrio.
P Buehrle


Andrus ia pretty much a consensus for SS - pretty impressive... then factor in his offensive capabilities....dude is a bigger beast than I thought.

How can you say Andrus is better than Vizquel? Even at Vizquel's age he is easily the best defensive short stop in the game.

jd25213
07-26-2010, 04:43 PM
Sorry Tex isn't the best fielding 1B. Theres a few better then him actually.
Also has this guy not found the comparisons forum yet?

Ok, then name them all, o ya thats right, there are no 1Bmen better than Teix.

Skizzik
07-26-2010, 04:52 PM
Ok, then name them all, o ya thats right, there are no 1Bmen better than Teix.

You probably haven't been able to watch him too much because his offense sucks so he flips back and forth between the majors and minors...but Chris Davis at least deserves to be in the argument. Being a Ranger fan...I've watched both Tex and Davis a lot and it's a pretty close race.

EaglesJackson10
07-26-2010, 05:00 PM
People should stop picking Cano cause he has a cool throwing motion. Hudson, Phillips, and Utley are much better.

Yendil
07-26-2010, 05:36 PM
1B - Morneau
2B - Phillips
3B - Zimmerman
SS - Rameriez
RF - Ichiro
CF - Gwynn
LF - Crawford

that is according to fangraphs.

bosox3431
07-26-2010, 09:05 PM
Ok, then name them all, o ya thats right, there are no 1Bmen better than Teix.

Ok, this is over the last three years, best for determining a players defensive value. And even if you go by just this year, theres a list just as long if not longer.

Kothman, Youkilis, Morneau, Votto, Daric Barton, Derrek Lee, Albert Pujols and Lance Berkman. Remeber this is just for defense, not all around.

Wrench
07-26-2010, 09:08 PM
1B - Morneau
2B - Phillips
3B - Zimmerman
SS - Rameriez
RF - Ichiro
CF - Gwynn
LF - Crawford

that is according to fangraphs.


This looks pretty good. Maybe someone else at SS, other then that its alright.

bosox3431
07-26-2010, 09:14 PM
Kotchman should be everyones 1B if this is based off defense only

BearBird83
07-26-2010, 09:53 PM
C - Yadi
1B - Tex
2B - Utley
3B - Zimmerman
SS - Ryan
OF - Crawford, Ichiro, Hunter
P - Wainwright

I know Ryan and Wainwright may seem like homer picks to some but Waino has a gold glove and Ryan is unbelievable if you've had the chance to see him.

bosox3431
07-26-2010, 11:27 PM
For this season
C-Yadier/Mauer
1B Morneau
2B Hudson
3B Zimmerman
SS Alexi Ramirez
LF Crawford
CF Tony Gwynn
RF Ichiro/Upton

Overall
C- Molina/Mauer
1B Kotchman
2B Utley
3B Longoria/Beltre/Zimmerman
SS Rollins/Hardy
LF Crawford
CF Gomez
RF Drew

ntat
07-27-2010, 05:14 AM
chase utley works harder than 99.9% of all athletes in baseball, however, being that i watch every phillies game, i can certainly tell you he is NOT the best defensive 2nd baseman. he's solid, but not the best.

Your just sayin that cuz u have seen his myoplex commercial so many times.
...now im done.

projectk7
07-27-2010, 08:26 AM
This looks pretty good. Maybe someone else at SS, other then that its alright.

Omar Vizquel

Yendil
07-27-2010, 11:15 AM
This looks pretty good. Maybe someone else at SS, other then that its alright.

there really is no argueing that is literally what fangraphs sabermetrics state. Each person I listed is leading their position in UZR

lotti51
07-28-2010, 06:37 PM
C- Yadier Molina
1B- Mark Texeria
2B- Orlando Hudson
3B- Ryan Zimmerman
SS- Omar Vizquel
OF- Torii Hunter
OF- Ichiro Suzuki
OF- Michael Bourn

This is just based on fielding.