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D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 05:59 AM
For a night, though, it was quite a display of speed and talent meshing together brilliantly. The squads combined to score 210 points, made 24 of 51 3-pointers, watched a breakout performance from Derrick Rose (15 points, eight assists, five steals, zero turnovers) that should make him the leading contender to start at point guard, and got 28 points in 29 minutes from Durant.



Rajon Rondo was sort of ordinary, and Chauncey Billups missed his first seven shot attempts before making his next two.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=teamusa-100726

Wade>You
07-25-2010, 06:01 AM
Inside sources say he's going to be better than CP3 and Pippen.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 06:18 AM
Inside sources say he's going to be better than CP3 and Pippen.

I heard that too, that Sam Smith

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 06:35 AM
rose will be doing this to the competition as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLsaXkMs9XE

knicksfan23
07-25-2010, 06:48 AM
Rose is a boss

Kyben36
07-25-2010, 06:51 AM
Inside sources say he's going to be better than CP3 and Pippen.

Sam smith isnt an inside source, hes a fan with a big name.

Kyben36
07-25-2010, 06:52 AM
as for this thread, rose did look great tonight. he did everything I hoped, and his stats where incredible considering one of the widely considered best defenders in teh league was on him most of the time, the bigest stat for me is 0 turnovers, 8 assist, thats hot,

bbcmillionaire
07-25-2010, 06:56 AM
Man besides Westbrook, the othe PGs(except rose) wasn't intense, I hope rondo was just taking the nOght off, cause I really wanna win

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 08:29 AM
as for this thread, rose did look great tonight. he did everything I hoped, and his stats where incredible considering one of the widely considered best defenders in teh league was on him most of the time, the bigest stat for me is 0 turnovers, 8 assist, thats hot,

x2

Mochalman
07-25-2010, 08:32 AM
for the time being, sure have him as starting pg. when the olympics roll around he can be the 3rd pg.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 08:35 AM
for the time being, sure have him as starting pg. when the olympics roll around he can be the 3rd pg.

ummmm....... NO......... Rose like someone said before = boss

Mochalman
07-25-2010, 08:36 AM
ummmm....... NO......... Rose like someone said before = boss

lets see how that argument goes over with deron and cp3 rejoin the team.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 08:37 AM
lets see how that argument goes over with deron and cp3 rejoin the team.

That's a big if and then maybe I will accept Rose as a 3, but Cp probably wont, but Rose is the perfect Pg in international play. big and strong

Mochalman
07-25-2010, 08:39 AM
That's a big if and then maybe I will accept Rose as a 3, but Cp probably wont, but Rose is the perfect Pg in international play. big and strong

like i said, he can start now and when better pgs join the team he will get pushed to the end of the line ala jason kidd starting. all about that seniority.


cp3 will join because it sounds as if hes lbj lap dog.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-25-2010, 08:43 AM
Rose is a god

zambo4president
07-25-2010, 09:24 AM
He should easily be. And not just because of last night either. He's pretty clear cut the best option they have to run the point, wouldn't mind Chauncey though.

justinnum1
07-25-2010, 09:30 AM
Rose won't be starting over Rondo for team USA...but I was impressed with his passing last night. I'm just not to sure how hard either teams were playing on D.

JordansBulls
07-25-2010, 09:53 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=teamusa-100726

This is good news.

Brooklyn Mets
07-25-2010, 10:08 AM
Rose played really good team ball last night.. rose and westbrook should be locks to make the team as the two primary pgs

Super.
07-25-2010, 10:16 AM
If only he was better than Rondo...

Mr.Chi-Town
07-25-2010, 10:18 AM
If only he was better than Rondo...

"Rajon Rondo was sort of ordinary"

Reversed86Curse
07-25-2010, 10:38 AM
"Rajon Rondo was sort of ordinary"

An ordinary Rondo= a better real PG than Rose

Props to Rose though for having 15pts and 8 assists in a practice game

SchyGuy11
07-25-2010, 10:43 AM
he should start he is the best pg on the team

97NYer
07-25-2010, 10:53 AM
He should start.

justinnum1
07-25-2010, 10:53 AM
An ordinary Rondo= a better real PG than Rose

Props to Rose though for having 15pts and 8 assists in a practice game

This.

DCSportsIsPain
07-25-2010, 10:56 AM
Derrick Rose = The best option who will actually play. Everyone better turned down their invitations.

Fmaranesi
07-25-2010, 10:56 AM
Curry played really well too

zambo4president
07-25-2010, 10:58 AM
If only he was better than Rondo...

Rose crossed Rondo's *** so bad last night he spun him in a full circle:laugh2:

zambo4president
07-25-2010, 10:59 AM
Curry played really well too

He was solid for the most part. Started off timid but as the game progressed he looked pretty good.

sager729
07-25-2010, 11:06 AM
Rondo can't hold Rose's jock!!!! Rose should be the starting PG.

thekmp211
07-25-2010, 11:09 AM
Rondo can't hold Rose's jock!!!! Rose should be the starting PG.

lol

magichatnumber9
07-25-2010, 11:17 AM
Last night was an exhibition game. Don't get it twisted

magichatnumber9
07-25-2010, 11:18 AM
"Rajon Rondo was sort of ordinary"Not to get off topic but Boozer looks horrible in a Bulls uniform.

Fmaranesi
07-25-2010, 11:19 AM
Rondo can't hold Rose's jock!!!! Rose should be the starting PG.

Only thing Rose is better than Rondo at (at this point in time) is scoring and dunking. Rondo is a way better facilitator and defender but if Rose keeps improving it is possible with Rose's potential that he becomes one of the best if not the best pointguard.

I would start Rondo at point since thats the only position he can play and put Rose as a two guard

gee1
07-25-2010, 11:31 AM
d.rose is da best point guard to start look at him rondo aint got sh** on him but defense. Cant shoot free throw nor shoot

king4day
07-25-2010, 11:43 AM
for the time being, sure have him as starting pg. when the olympics roll around he can be the 3rd pg.

Yea this is what I was thinking. It's one scrimmage and chances are, some of these guys aren't in the best of shape (Odom).
He leads now, but might trail next week.
This really isn't news since it's so early and it's one mans opinion.

king4day
07-25-2010, 11:44 AM
d.rose is da best point guard to start look at him rondo aint got sh** on him but defense. Cant shoot free throw nor shoot

When you have Durant on your team, you don't necessarily need more offense. Rondo might compliment the starters better.

ManningToTyree
07-25-2010, 11:49 AM
I hope Rondo steps it up cuz he is better than Rose

BkOriginalOne
07-25-2010, 12:07 PM
Billups is gonna start.
I say always let the Finals MVP start.

Experience is the most important quality at PG for Team USA.
This is why Kidd started over CP3 and DWill

dnewguy
07-25-2010, 12:20 PM
I didnt see anyone play defense, so how the heck is everyone acting like Rose did something special?

DaBUU
07-25-2010, 12:23 PM
I hope Rondo steps it up cuz he is better than Rose

umm......he's not.

JWO35
07-25-2010, 12:32 PM
Derrick Rose over Rondo? :laugh:

Neither of them will start come olympic time, it will most likely be CP3 or Williams....or Kidd if the old man is up for it.

kjoke
07-25-2010, 12:40 PM
why do we have scrimmage games, these ar mostly STAR, players cant beleive thed risk an injury to play in a scimmage game

BKNets21
07-25-2010, 12:51 PM
For Team USA... Chris Paul > Deron Williams >>>>> Derrick Rose

Kyben36
07-25-2010, 01:05 PM
An ordinary Rondo= a better real PG than Rose

Props to Rose though for having 15pts and 8 assists in a practice game

Props to rondo for not showing up in such a big scrimmage. this scrimmage wasnt just a practice game, this was one of the true test for these players to see how they are going to handle the Euro rules. and Rose dominated with his strength, while Rondo Got bullied becuase KG wasnt there for him to hide behind.

thekmp211
07-25-2010, 01:11 PM
Props to rondo for not showing up in such a big scrimmage. this scrimmage wasnt just a practice game, this was one of the true test for these players to see how they are going to handle the Euro rules. and Rose dominated with his strength, while Rondo Got bullied becuase KG wasnt there for him to hide behind.

lol again

i dont think ive ever seen a fanbase be as touchy about a player as bulls fans are with derrick rose.

Mplsman
07-25-2010, 01:12 PM
You'd have to think he would be.

ldc62
07-25-2010, 01:24 PM
Good... even though it doesn't matter who they start. FIBA is a joke anyways, 2 months after FIFA ends and no one even watches it. I can't see why people consider it more important than the Olympics.

UnCUNTainable
07-25-2010, 01:34 PM
DR1is just a badass

ROSE>>>>>>>RONDO

mikantsass
07-25-2010, 01:35 PM
Derrick Rose is the best player in the history of Basketball. They are going to rename the Hall of Fame after him

J_M_B
07-25-2010, 01:36 PM
I still think Rondo should start. He's a better facilitator and a top notch defender. Rajon will compliment the other starts very well.

Redbull
07-25-2010, 01:38 PM
He deserves it because he was the best PG on the floor, if D-Will and CP3 join then he should be the 3rd PG.

Super.
07-25-2010, 01:41 PM
"Rajon Rondo was sort of ordinary"

Let me rephrase myself

Rondo>Rose

Sadds The Gr8
07-25-2010, 01:42 PM
I still think Rondo should start. He's a better facilitator and a top notch defender. Rajon will compliment the other starts very well.

this. Rondo should start

Vincent
07-25-2010, 01:57 PM
While this is probably going to go on deaf ears and blind eyes because the amount of Chicago Love/Hate in the forum...

Rose should start.

If you look at the roster and figure out the projected starters, I would say one player is locked as a starter, KD of course.

At SG, you have a bunch of undersized combo guards and Igudola. Say they use Iggy at SG, due to his recent sucess at camp.

At C, you have Brook Lopez vs Tyson Chandler. Chandler might get the nod because of his international experience and defensive ability.

At PF, you most likely will see either a smaller lineup with Durant or Odom, who is the steady vet.

PG, is probably the toughest position to figure out. With Billups, Rondo and Rose in contention.

I think if you're using Iggy, Durant, Odom, and Chandler at the other spots, you need a scorer to fill your PG spot. Rose is a better scorer than Billups and Rondo. And with that lineup you'll be able to put up some good numbers to start the game.

I see how Billups could be thrown in there and have Rose as a scorer off the bench (like Dwade in the Olympics).

My guess is that Billups will get the starting nod or play an insignificant role on the bench due to the fact that they want to develop some players for the next Olympics.

Even so, he would still just be a J Kidd role.

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 02:00 PM
Rose won't be starting over Rondo for team USA...but I was impressed with his passing last night. I'm just not to sure how hard either teams were playing on D.

Why!?!?!?! Rondo will not start especially in Euro basketball where they zone a lot which will nullify his strength in getting to the rim. He is going to need to hit the mid-range shot on a consistent basis;a shot he doesn't have. Plus, he turned the ball over too much last night.

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 02:03 PM
My 12 Man Roster:
Rose/Curry
Billups/Gordon
Igoudala/Granger
Durant/Gay/Wallace
Chandler/Odom/Love

-I don't have Rondo on here because he turned the ball over a lot today and he isn't much of a scoring threat from the perimeter, a shot he needs to take a lot, since in Euro basketball they prevent the drive due to constant collapsing of the zone
-I preferred Gordon over Westbrook since he is more of a scoring threat as well and he looked really good from the 3pt line today. It was a toss up between Gordon and Mayo but I picked Gordon
-I picked Wallace over Green because he is a better rebounder than Green plus he is a better scorer
- I had to have Granger on here as well since he can play the 2,3, and 4 same goes with Gay, Durant, and Igoudala.
-Igoudala has a 3pt shot now!
-Love looked great today and he's perfect for Euro basketball with his 3pt range
-Chandler didn't looked too bad. He's a little late at times during defense sequences. Horrible Free Throw Shooter!
-Odom needs to stop taking 3pt shots PERIOD! They played him at center since he could bring the ball up after a rebound, which I liked, but he shot too much from the 3!

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 02:07 PM
Rondo is a better facilitator!?!?!?! Rose had 8 assists in 31 min. This goes to show you that if Rose had scoring threats around him ala Rondo and his big 3 then he would definitely facilitate more instead of doing everything for the team.

gee1
07-25-2010, 02:38 PM
Rondo fans jus give it up d.rose is better den him in every way except defense dats all rondo has over rose. Rondo cant even stick him

Chronz
07-25-2010, 04:09 PM
I think they need a score at the point so rose is the man for the job. Not so much come Olympics

td0tsfinest
07-25-2010, 04:11 PM
I thought Billups would be lock for the starting spot. He was going to be this years Jason Kidd.

Super.
07-25-2010, 04:13 PM
Rondo can't hold Rose's jock!!!! Rose should be the starting PG.

Wait...who lead his team to the NBA Finals?

Super.
07-25-2010, 04:15 PM
umm......he's not.

Oh...but he is.

Both teams played Cleveland in a 7 game series....

Who won?

Both players played EACH OTHER in a 7 game series who was .5 rebounds away from AVERAGING a triple double?

gocubs2118
07-25-2010, 04:22 PM
Wait...who lead his team to the NBA Finals?

Wait, who had 3 Hall of Famers on his team?

Super.
07-25-2010, 04:50 PM
Wait, who had 3 Hall of Famers on his team?

Did you watch this post-season at all? Again who lead his team to the finals?

JNA17
07-25-2010, 04:59 PM
like, OMG, rose is like, better then rondo!? Like, HOLY ****!

Hugbees
07-25-2010, 05:00 PM
Inside sources say he's going to be better than CP3 and Pippen.

dude u trippin. he's obviously a lock to be better than jordan.

Rndy
07-25-2010, 05:24 PM
Rondo is a walking Flagrant, He's a joke to the USA team.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 06:11 PM
Rondo is a walking Flagrant, He's a joke to the USA team.

gotta agree

thekmp211
07-25-2010, 06:22 PM
Rondo is a better facilitator!?!?!?! Rose had 8 assists in 31 min. This goes to show you that if Rose had scoring threats around him ala Rondo and his big 3 then he would definitely facilitate more instead of doing everything for the team.

you sir do not have a future as a researcher in any field.

gee1
07-25-2010, 06:22 PM
Rondo aint nuthn all he does is throw oops to garnett nd give da ball to ray all wen he comes off da screen to shoot look how easy it is for him to get his assist. D.rose works for everything he gets not to mention he is da best player on his team

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 06:25 PM
Ughh... Rajon Rondo is the better PG, i hope he starts because Bull fans will revert to this when discussing the two which is pathetic.

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 06:27 PM
rondo...

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 06:29 PM
Rondo aint nuthn all he does is throw oops to garnett nd give da ball to ray all wen he comes off da screen to shoot look how easy it is for him to get his assist. D.rose works for everything he gets not to mention he is da best player on his team

wow...... just wow. :rimshot:

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 06:31 PM
gotta agree

you gotta agree cause you know he's better than your rose and your a silly homer that doesn't use logic or common sense when trying to reach a conclusion.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 06:37 PM
you gotta agree cause you know he's better than your rose and your a silly homer that doesn't use logic or common sense when trying to reach a conclusion.

ugh..... another rose hater. why don't you actually watch rose before you comment on him

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 06:40 PM
this is my fourth post in a row (i dont care). i personally hate both the celtics and the bulls. i hate em both. you bulls fans are out of your mind if you think rose is better than rondo. he absolutely is not. you guys must have just stopped watching the playoffs when the Bulls got eliminated. either that or your the most ignorant homers ever to walk the face of PSD. i mean, the dude's name who's defending rose is D Roses Bulls. what a joke. Rose's jumper is better. thats it. face the facts.

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 06:44 PM
ugh..... another rose hater. why don't you actually watch rose before you comment on him

dude i don't hate his game at all. one of the best series i've ever watched was bulls celtics last year. i'm just saying you can't put him above rondo, who's won a ring, walked his team into the finals this year, and played consistently better than his own big 3. he's almost a walking triple double. to be honest i'm a knicks fan, so technically i should hate both bulls and celts which makes me completely unbiased. i think to anybody other than bulls fans, its obvious rondo is an all around better PG (not scorer, PG)

kurivaimu
07-25-2010, 06:46 PM
Inside sources say he's going to be better than CP3 and Pippen.

who the **** cares

Redbull
07-25-2010, 06:49 PM
You can say what you want but if Rose and Rondo were on the opposite teams the last 2 years I don't think we would have been having this conversation right now.

Stunner
07-25-2010, 06:51 PM
I would think Rose,Curry and Billups would make the team at PG because in Fiba play u need to shoot well form mid-range and out because those types of teams play zone most of the time which is Rondo's strength. If Rondo had a better jumpshot He would start no question. But for Fiba play he is the odd PG out. Come London time Rose will be the 3 PG behind CP3 and D-Will. But we have to see how those players will be a couple of years from now somebody could surpass them. Rose might be way better than he is now a couple years from now the same for Rondo.

Super.
07-25-2010, 07:03 PM
Rondo aint nuthn all he does is throw oops to garnett nd give da ball to ray all wen he comes off da screen to shoot look how easy it is for him to get his assist. D.rose works for everything he gets not to mention he is da best player on his team

I could rip this post a new one....but instead I'm just gonna laugh. Sweet Jesus man

Gee1 Repping the average Chicago Bull's fan IQ

Rndy
07-25-2010, 07:17 PM
They are both great talents. However Derrick hasn't had the players nor the coaching staff Rondo has had. I will wait until the end of the year to judge. I find it very hard to root for Rondo. The guy just seems like a punk. All the altercations he has had with players Kobe, CP3, Brad Miller, and Hinrich. He fits right in with Bostons lack of respect.

Sofnr
07-25-2010, 07:20 PM
I could rip this post a new one....but instead I'm just gonna laugh. Sweet Jesus man

Gee1 Repping the average Chicago Bull's fan IQ

You make yourself look so smart by picking on an idiot and trying to stereotype a fanbase.

Super.
07-25-2010, 07:32 PM
You make yourself look so smart by picking on an idiot and trying to stereotype a fanbase.

I know. It's so much fun

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 08:09 PM
dude i don't hate his game at all. one of the best series i've ever watched was bulls celtics last year. i'm just saying you can't put him above rondo, who's won a ring, walked his team into the finals this year, and played consistently better than his own big 3. he's almost a walking triple double. to be honest i'm a knicks fan, so technically i should hate both bulls and celts which makes me completely unbiased. i think to anybody other than bulls fans, its obvious rondo is an all around better PG (not scorer, PG)

Ugh..... just please stop :facepalm:

Super.
07-25-2010, 08:16 PM
Ugh..... just please stop :facepalm:

Why? He's right

gee1
07-25-2010, 08:39 PM
d.rose haters man i tell u bout em. I kno dis aint got nuthn to do wit dis but have rondo ever blockd a shot, made sumbody fall on a crossover, literally dunkd on sumbodi........lead his TEAM in points while still leadin in assist.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 08:48 PM
Why? He's right

he's right huh? then why didnt rondo perform like he was better then rose then?

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 09:14 PM
he's right huh? then why didnt rondo perform like he was better then rose then?

bro, stop embarrassing yourself. I'm not going to further disprove your irrational statements. your easily one of the biggest homers i've ever seen. the funny part is that you don't even have the resilience to argue your case about D-rose in a respectable and intelligent way. me further making you look like an idiot right now is not beneficial to this thread or to PSD forums in general. have a nice night:)

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 09:14 PM
d.rose haters man i tell u bout em. I kno dis aint got nuthn to do wit dis but have rondo ever blockd a shot, made sumbody fall on a crossover, literally dunkd on sumbodi........lead his TEAM in points while still leadin in assist.

yes he has literally done all of those things; and more.

gee1
07-25-2010, 09:31 PM
yes he has literally done all of those things; and more.

Who he made fall ....who shot he blockd and he hasnt led the celtics in points for the whole season

What?
07-25-2010, 09:46 PM
this is my fourth post in a row (i dont care). i personally hate both the celtics and the bulls. i hate em both. you bulls fans are out of your mind if you think rose is better than rondo. he absolutely is not. you guys must have just stopped watching the playoffs when the Bulls got eliminated. either that or your the most ignorant homers ever to walk the face of PSD. i mean, the dude's name who's defending rose is D Roses Bulls. what a joke. Rose's jumper is better. thats it. face the facts.

Speaking of the playoffs I would say Rose had just as good or better of one (individually of course) then Rondo


dude i don't hate his game at all. one of the best series i've ever watched was bulls celtics last year. i'm just saying you can't put him above rondo, who's won a ring, walked his team into the finals this year, and played consistently better than his own big 3. he's almost a walking triple double. to be honest i'm a knicks fan, so technically i should hate both bulls and celts which makes me completely unbiased. i think to anybody other than bulls fans, its obvious rondo is an all around better PG (not scorer, PG)


This is kind of random but why do people keep acting like he gets so many triple doubles he gets alot but a walking triple double come on he averaged 5.6rpg in the playoffs and 4.4 in the regular season great for a pg but some of you made it sound like he's Oscar Robertson.

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 09:49 PM
Who he made fall ....who shot he blockd and he hasnt led the celtics in points for the whole season

you didnt say for the whole season..... he's not primarily a scorer anyways. just go to you tube and watch some of his ball fakes, or his assist highlights. and in any event, youtube video highlights doesn't mean anything. just because he's blocked a shot and made somebody fall have nothing to do with the point at hand. nate robinson has broken many ankles and he blocked yao ming. does that make him the best PG in the league? "who he made fall":facepalm:

Kashmir13579
07-25-2010, 09:54 PM
Speaking of the playoffs I would say Rose had just as good or better of one (individually of course) then Rondo. disagree entirely. you bulls fans are absolutely delusional. the best part is that nobody is disputing that rose is a great player. HE IS A GREAT PLAYER! we all know this, get over it. with that said, he is not a better PG than rondo. trying to talk sense into some bulls fans is like trying to bring democracy to cuba.

Rndy
07-25-2010, 09:59 PM
disagree entirely. you bulls fans are absolutely delusional. the best part is that nobody is disputing that rose is a great player. HE IS A GREAT PLAYER! we all know this, get over it. with that said, he is not a better PG than rondo. trying to talk sense into some bulls fans is like trying to bring democracy to cuba.

Personally I think both of your arguments are terrible. Rondo has had 3 hof worthy players around him. Great coaching staff. Who had Rose had? I don't understand what you guys keep arguing about. Wait until next season when Rose has talent around him? Then maybe we can argue Boozer or Amare thats always fun!

What?
07-25-2010, 10:00 PM
disagree entirely. you bulls fans are absolutely delusional. the best part is that nobody is disputing that rose is a great player. HE IS A GREAT PLAYER! we all know this, get over it. with that said, he is not a better PG than rondo. trying to talk sense into some bulls fans is like trying to bring democracy to cuba.

I understand how you could disagree but 27/7/3.5/1 is better or at least as good as 16/9/5.5/2.

The ChiCago KiD
07-25-2010, 10:07 PM
ya know...deron and Cp3....great point guards....but give me rose....any day of the week....

The ChiCago KiD
07-25-2010, 10:09 PM
rose is better than rondo.....give derrick rose three other stars on his team and see how much he gets to the hole.....rondo is a product of the team thats put together in boston....you hate rose cause well you hate the bulls.....dont let you biases get in the way of being a half way smart person. Idiot.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 10:26 PM
disagree entirely. you bulls fans are absolutely delusional. the best part is that nobody is disputing that rose is a great player. HE IS A GREAT PLAYER! we all know this, get over it. with that said, he is not a better PG than rondo. trying to talk sense into some bulls fans is like trying to bring democracy to cuba.

you know maybe because you havent watched a good basketball team in new york in a long time is blinding you from seeing a good basketball player.

Ollie Tabooger
07-25-2010, 10:26 PM
Ugh..... just please stop :facepalm:

Why? He's right.

D Roses Bulls
07-25-2010, 10:27 PM
bro, stop embarrassing yourself. I'm not going to further disprove your irrational statements. your easily one of the biggest homers i've ever seen. the funny part is that you don't even have the resilience to argue your case about D-rose in a respectable and intelligent way. me further making you look like an idiot right now is not beneficial to this thread or to PSD forums in general. have a nice night:)

lmao..... all your saying is rondo is better, thats not looking intelligent at all. you have no facts, showin me nothing other wise and dude your not making me look dumb at all cause your saying nothing except rondo is better. anyone that's 3 year old can say that and your lucky i'm not in the mood to really argue or i would be making you look pretty dumb right now.

D1JM
07-25-2010, 10:31 PM
Didnt CP3 say that rondo was lucky he was with three future Hall Of famers too? So does that make CP3 delusional and stupid?

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 10:39 PM
why is Sam Smith saying he'll be better than cp3 and pippen? Pippen and rose play different positions..........as for Rose vs. Rondo.....Just see Rose start at pg for usa while rondo watches from the bench.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 10:41 PM
lmao..... all your saying is rondo is better, thats not looking intelligent at all. you have no facts, showin me nothing other wise and dude your not making me look dumb at all cause your saying nothing except rondo is better. anyone that's 3 year old can say that and your lucky i'm not in the mood to really argue or i would be making you look pretty dumb right now.

Someone thinks hes a badass lol. Dude be quiet you are on of the worst homers and you couldnt try and sound intelligent if your life depended on it.

Rondo has had a better career than Derrick Rose PERIOD You people are so sensitive about this topic and is disgusting, but funny at the same time because you have idiots like the poster 3 or 4 posts above this one saying he will take Rose over Paul and Williams. Only a Bulls homer would say that and i bet if i did a poll on who is the best PG in the league, Rose will actually get some votes in, all by Chicago fans.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 10:42 PM
rose will be doing this to the competition as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLsaXkMs9XE

Bad *** video...that announcer is hilarious when he says WINDMEAL instead of WINDMILL. I bet he even spells it windmeal. lol

phen0m
07-25-2010, 10:51 PM
Im a Bulls fan and i think Rondo is better, so not all of us are ignorant homers. Although i do think Rose easily has the potential to be the best PG in the league in a few years, but RIGHT NOW Rondo is much better.

tangent12
07-25-2010, 10:53 PM
Not surprised... Rose is definitely superior than Rondo. And well Billups isn't exactly on his prime even though he is a veteran so yeah..

jackdawson
07-25-2010, 10:56 PM
Im a Bulls fan and i think Rondo is better, so not all of us are ignorant homers. Although i do think Rose easily has the potential to be the best PG in the league in a few years, but RIGHT NOW Rondo is much better.

:clap:

Nice to see a rational bulls fan here; very few of them exist on psd.

D1JM
07-25-2010, 10:56 PM
If rondo would of had a good game yesterday and rose a crappy one, then all those people saying that Rondo didnt try cuz it was a scrimmage a, wouldnt of said Rose didnt try to do good cuz the game didnt matter, it was just a scrimmage. Last time i checkedt this game was the last chance for a player to show what they have before the first cut?

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:03 PM
STATS

Regular Season PLAYOFFS

ROSE Rondo ROSE RONDO
PPG 20.8 13.7 ppg 26.8 15.8
Asissts 6.0 9.8 assists 7.2 9.3
Rebounds 3.80 4.40 FG% .456 .463
FT % .776 .621 FT% .818 .596

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:06 PM
Reugla Season playoffs
ROSE Rondo ROSE RONDO
PPG 20.8 13.7 ppg 26.8 15.8
Asissts 6.0 9.8 assists 7.2 9.3
Rebounds 3.80 4.40 FG% .456 .463
FT % .776 .621 FT% .818 .596

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:07 PM
Regular season Rose scored 20.8 points as opposed to Rondo's 13.7. In the playoffs Rose averaged 26.8 to Rondo's 15.8.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:11 PM
STATS

Regular Season PLAYOFFS

ROSE Rondo ROSE RONDO
PPG 20.8 13.7 ppg 26.8 15.8
Asissts 6.0 9.8 assists 7.2 9.3
Rebounds 3.80 4.40 FG% .456 .463
FT % .776 .621 FT% .818 .596

Honestly, i think you made a worse case for Rose. Rose is a good scorer, but he does it because he has to because he is their best one unlike Rondo. Rondo isnt exactly an amazing scorer, but he is your prototypical PG that gets you a good amount of points, gets a lot of assists and gives open looks to everyone on everyone possession when he has the ball, good rebounder, and incredible defense. He puts pressure on the opposing teams Pgs and wrecks havoc getting a crap load of steals.

Rose scores pretty good (and he should actually be averaging more than with his sorry offensive team), but he doesnt get many assists for a PG.

Put Rose on the Celtics and they wouldnt win any championships and prolly wouldnt of even made it to the finals.

Btw why didnt you put Rondo's rebounding in the playoffs? LMAO

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:13 PM
:clap:

Nice to see a rational bulls fan here; very few of them exist on psd.

It's also nice to see a troll.
Rose is a better offensive player than Rondo even though he has had much less talent surrounding him.
&
Rondo is a better defensive player than Rose.
That's the bottom line.

blastmasta26
07-25-2010, 11:14 PM
Honestly, i think you made a worse case for Rose. Rose is a good scorer, but he does it because he has to because he is their best one unlike Rondo. Rondo isnt exactly an amazing scorer, but he is your prototypical PG that gets you a good amount of points, gets a lot of assists and gives open looks to everyone on everyone possession when he has the ball, good rebounder, and incredible defense. He puts pressure on the opposing teams Pgs and wrecks havoc getting a crap load of steals.

Rose scores pretty good (and he should actually be averaging more than with his sorry offensive team), but he doesnt get many assists for a PG.

Put Rose on the Celtics and they wouldnt win any championships and prolly wouldnt of even made it to the finals.

Btw why didnt you put Rondo's rebounding in the playoffs? LMAO
I agree. Plus Rose is not a good defender and can't create for others the way Rondo can.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:15 PM
Rose will average more assists next season when he has Korver, Boozer, Brewer, McGrady, Watson, Deng and Noah.

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 11:15 PM
dude i don't hate his game at all. one of the best series i've ever watched was bulls celtics last year. i'm just saying you can't put him above rondo, who's won a ring, walked his team into the finals this year, and played consistently better than his own big 3. he's almost a walking triple double. to be honest i'm a knicks fan, so technically i should hate both bulls and celts which makes me completely unbiased. i think to anybody other than bulls fans, its obvious rondo is an all around better PG (not scorer, PG)

Adam Morrison won two rings. Rose lead his team to the playoffs as well with no scoring threats on the Bulls. He didn't even have an Allen, Peirce, or Garnet. Rose also didn't have Noah for almost 2 months.

D1JM
07-25-2010, 11:16 PM
Honestly, i think you made a worse case for Rose. Rose is a good scorer, but he does it because he has to because he is their best one unlike Rondo. Rondo isnt exactly an amazing scorer, but he is your prototypical PG that gets you a good amount of points, gets a lot of assists and gives open looks to everyone on everyone possession when he has the ball, good rebounder, and incredible defense. He puts pressure on the opposing teams Pgs and wrecks havoc getting a crap load of steals.

Rose scores pretty good (and he should actually be averaging more than with his sorry offensive team), but he doesnt get many assists for a PG.

Put Rose on the Celtics and they wouldnt win any championships and prolly wouldnt of even made it to the finals.

Btw why didnt you put Rondo's rebounding in the playoffs? LMAO

How many times does Rondo miss and the other team makes a basket cuz Rondo tried to steal? How many times does he go for the rebound and the other team pg goes on a fast break because rondo wasnt guarding his player?

JordansBulls
07-25-2010, 11:16 PM
Rondo managed only 50 wins with KG, Pierce and Allen on his team. Imagine Rose playing with that team last year? Would have won 60 games with them.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:17 PM
Rose played with Hakim Warrick, Hinrich who can't shoot, Taj Gibson as their starting power forward......oh by the way.....in case you didn't know....Rose now has a 3 point shot....lol scary

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:17 PM
I agree. Plus Rose is not a good defender and can't create for others the way Rondo can.

And that part isnt even close. Rondo's creativity is spectacular with all those ball fakes, no lookers, and bounce passes. Rose gets most of his assists of drives and kicks. Rondo actually sets up the defense unlike Rose who just goes straight to the basket and either passes it back out to an open shooter or throws up those ugly looking tear drops from basically mid range (i ****ing hate when he does that).

ldc62
07-25-2010, 11:18 PM
USA could put the worst PG they have in the NBA and still win...

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:19 PM
Rose drives the lane with intensity and dunks on people....can rondo do that?

ldc62
07-25-2010, 11:20 PM
Rose played with Hakim Warrick, Hinrich who can't shoot, Taj Gibson as their starting power forward......oh by the way.....in case you didn't know....Rose now has a 3 point shot....lol scary

The 3 point line is like 3 feet shortened in Fiba.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:20 PM
Honestly, i think you made a worse case for Rose. Rose is a good scorer, but he does it because he has to because he is their best one unlike Rondo. Rondo isnt exactly an amazing scorer, but he is your prototypical PG that gets you a good amount of points, gets a lot of assists and gives open looks to everyone on everyone possession when he has the ball, good rebounder, and incredible defense. He puts pressure on the opposing teams Pgs and wrecks havoc getting a crap load of steals.

Rose scores pretty good (and he should actually be averaging more than with his sorry offensive team), but he doesnt get many assists for a PG.

Put Rose on the Celtics and they wouldnt win any championships and prolly wouldnt of even made it to the finals.

Btw why didnt you put Rondo's rebounding in the playoffs? LMAO

Like Stuart Scott says...HATER IN THE HOUSE!!!
Like you said, Rose had a sorry offensive team...but Rondo averaging a little more than 1 assist per game makes Rondo much better? That's ridiculous.
Put Rondo on the Bulls and they would have been HORRIBLE considering they had no scoring. Rondo is a good player...because the Celtics have actual options.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:21 PM
Rose played with Hakim Warrick, Hinrich who can't shoot, Taj Gibson as their starting power forward......oh by the way.....in case you didn't know....Rose now has a 3 point shot....lol scary

Rose 3Pt%- .267 last and .222 the year before

When did that happen?

JordansBulls
07-25-2010, 11:23 PM
USA could put the worst PG they have in the NBA and still win...

Umm no

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/06_wcm/scheResu/p/eventid/3507/gamename/A/groupname/75/langlc/en/roundid/5152/fe_scheStat_boxScor.html

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:23 PM
The 3 point line is like 3 feet shortened in Fiba.

I'm talking about the NBA 3 point line not the FIBA....check out some youtube videos of rose working on his 3 point shot in california.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:23 PM
Like Stuart Scott says...HATER IN THE HOUSE!!!
Like you said, Rose had a sorry offensive team...but Rondo averaging a little more than 1 assist per game makes Rondo much better? That's ridiculous.
Put Rondo on the Bulls and they would have been HORRIBLE considering they had no scoring. Rondo is a good player...because the Celtics have actual options.

Umm i have absolutely nothing to hate on buddy.

Rondo averages 2.1 more APG than Rose so idk wtf your talking about with that a little above 1 lol.

AddiX
07-25-2010, 11:24 PM
Not one player on Rose's team can say they were better for playing next to him. That's a fact, the kid can't run a team YET. Maybe he will learn to in time, but right now nothing he does makes them better.

He's an athletic ridiculously skilled player who doesn't spread the court, doesn't make his team better, never learned a thing about tempo, and can't hit an outside shot for his life. There's a lot more to team basketball than stats, something a lot of people here haven't learned yet.

I'm not a rose hater, but people here over-rate him so much it's not even funny.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:24 PM
And that part isnt even close. Rondo's creativity is spectacular with all those ball fakes, no lookers, and bounce passes. Rose gets most of his assists of drives and kicks. Rondo actually sets up the defense unlike Rose who just goes straight to the basket and either passes it back out to an open shooter or throws up those ugly looking tear drops from basically mid range (i ****ing hate when he does that).

Can you read??? The guy said Rose CAN'T create like Rondo.

FYI, Rondo gets to the basket easily because teams can't/won't double him and leave Pierce or Allen wide open.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:24 PM
Honestly, i think you made a worse case for Rose. Rose is a good scorer, but he does it because he has to because he is their best one unlike Rondo. Rondo isnt exactly an amazing scorer, but he is your prototypical PG that gets you a good amount of points, gets a lot of assists and gives open looks to everyone on everyone possession when he has the ball, good rebounder, and incredible defense. He puts pressure on the opposing teams Pgs and wrecks havoc getting a crap load of steals.

Rose scores pretty good (and he should actually be averaging more than with his sorry offensive team), but he doesnt get many assists for a PG.

Put Rose on the Celtics and they wouldnt win any championships and prolly wouldnt of even made it to the finals.

Btw why didnt you put Rondo's rebounding in the playoffs? LMAO

Because Rose didn't have to rebound...we have Noah and now Boozer rebounding lmao

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:27 PM
Noah and Boozer averaged 11 rebounds for the reg. season...in the playoffs Boozer and Noah were one and two in rebounds with 13....rose doesn't have to rebound

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:27 PM
Not one player on Rose's team can say they were better for playing next to him. That's a fact, the kid can't run a team YET. Maybe he will learn to in time, but right now nothing he does makes them better.

He's an athletic ridiculously skilled player who doesn't spread the court, doesn't make his team better, never learned a thing about tempo, and can't hit an outside shot for his life. There's a lot more to team basketball than stats, something a lot of people here haven't learned yet.

I'm not a rose hater, but people here over-rate him so much it's not even funny.

That just proves you don't watch Bulls games.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:28 PM
Rondo has pierce, garnett and ray allen so of course he's going to average more assists

Ray_R
07-25-2010, 11:28 PM
lol again

i dont think ive ever seen a fanbase be as touchy about a player as bulls fans are with derrick rose.

Derrick ROse is a God. Simple as that.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:29 PM
Can you read??? The guy said Rose CAN'T create like Rondo.

FYI, Rondo gets to the basket easily because teams can't/won't double him and leave Pierce or Allen wide open.

Are you ********? Thats exactly what im talking about. :confused:

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 11:29 PM
Originally Posted by HuRRiCaNeS324 View Post
Honestly, i think you made a worse case for Rose. Rose is a good scorer, but he does it because he has to because he is their best one unlike Rondo. Rondo isnt exactly an amazing scorer, but he is your prototypical PG that gets you a good amount of points, gets a lot of assists and gives open looks to everyone on everyone possession when he has the ball, good rebounder, and incredible defense. He puts pressure on the opposing teams Pgs and wrecks havoc getting a crap load of steals.

Rose scores pretty good (and he should actually be averaging more than with his sorry offensive team), but he doesnt get many assists for a PG.

Put Rose on the Celtics and they wouldnt win any championships and prolly wouldnt of even made it to the finals.

Btw why didnt you put Rondo's rebounding in the playoffs? LMAO

You got to be kidding me!!!!!!

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:30 PM
Umm i have absolutely nothing to hate on buddy.

Rondo averages 2.1 more APG than Rose so idk wtf your talking about with that a little above 1 lol.

My bad, I meant a little above 2. It's still the same reasoning though, look at Rondo's team last year, now look at Rose's team last year. You shouldn't be in this conversation considering you probably didn't watch any Bulls games last year while I watched all of them. Teammates blew so many open shots last year (**** YOU DENG!!!) that Rose's assist numbers were sure to be lower. Put just Ray Allen on this Bulls team and Rose will average 8 assists per game.

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 11:33 PM
Rondo has pierce, garnett and ray allen so of course he's going to average more assists

Agree! Compared to Hinrich, Deng, Gibson.

Who do you think will get more assists? Rondo of Course!

Rose had to make up for the inability to score so he assisted less.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:33 PM
Rondo has pierce, garnett and ray allen so of course he's going to average more assists

How bout this? Pierce, Garnett, and Allen have Rondo.

Rondo can do what he does with any team. Its not like he gets all of his assists from the big three... He gives the big three and every other player on his team WIDE open looks.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:34 PM
Pierce has repeatedly said they have to play off him now instead of vice versa.

SeoulBeatz
07-25-2010, 11:34 PM
Rose played with Hakim Warrick, Hinrich who can't shoot, Taj Gibson as their starting power forward......oh by the way.....in case you didn't know....Rose now has a 3 point shot....lol scary

no he doesn't.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:34 PM
And that part isnt even close. Rondo's creativity is spectacular with all those ball fakes, no lookers, and bounce passes. Rose gets most of his assists of drives and kicks. Rondo actually sets up the defense unlike Rose who just goes straight to the basket and either passes it back out to an open shooter or throws up those ugly looking tear drops from basically mid range (i ****ing hate when he does that).

Here's what you said teabagger.
You said that in the other guy's statement about Rose not being able to create like Rondo. I figured, because you teabag, that you meant that part of his comment wasn't even close.

SeoulBeatz
07-25-2010, 11:35 PM
Rose drives the lane with intensity and dunks on people....can rondo do that?

yes rondo can, what does this have to do with anything?

rose is one of my favorite players, but stop being a homer

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:36 PM
How bout this? Pierce, Garnett, and Allen have Rondo.

Rondo can do what he does with any team. Its not like he gets all of his assists from the big three... He gives the big three and every other player on his team WIDE open looks.

...who they all leave WIDE ****ING OPEN.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:36 PM
My bad, I meant a little above 2. It's still the same reasoning though, look at Rondo's team last year, now look at Rose's team last year. You shouldn't be in this conversation considering you probably didn't watch any Bulls games last year while I watched all of them. Teammates blew so many open shots last year (**** YOU DENG!!!) that Rose's assist numbers were sure to be lower. Put just Ray Allen on this Bulls team and Rose will average 8 assists per game.

I can argue about anything because i actually know what im talking about. Its not like im throwing garbage that is completely untrue.

And that happens to everyone so thats a horrible excuse.

Rndy
07-25-2010, 11:36 PM
How bout this? Pierce, Garnett, and Allen have Rondo.

Rondo can do what he does with any team. Its not like he gets all of his assists from the big three... He gives the big three and every other player on his team WIDE open looks.

I really hope the rest of your posts aren't are stupid as these give it a rest man. Rondo is really good and a better overall pg at this time then Rose. But your posts are just :facepalm:. If you don't think the big three and the coaching staff Rondo has made a huge dif then you are a lost cause.

dre1990
07-25-2010, 11:36 PM
Billups should start. was CP3 better than jkidd for 08? yes. Did he start? no.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:36 PM
no he doesn't.

For those who can't read.......Rose had been working on his 3 point shot in california and now HAS a 3 point game.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:38 PM
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I can argue about anything because i actually know what im talking about. Its not like im throwing garbage that is completely untrue.

And that happens to everyone so thats a horrible excuse.

Blah blah blah...it doesn't happen to Rondo because he has the best sharpshooter in the NBA coming off picks in Ray Ray. It's fact.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:39 PM
Here's what you said teabagger.
You said that in the other guy's statement about Rose not being able to create like Rondo. I figured, because you teabag, that you meant that part of his comment wasn't even close.

Have you passed kindergarden yet?

You say i dont know how to read and look like a complete fool when you're the one thats doesnt know how to read lol. And you also dont know how to have a normal conversation either....

AddiX
07-25-2010, 11:39 PM
That just proves you don't watch Bulls games.

That's what every Bulls fan likes to say when people tell the truth about Rose. I watch the bulls all the time, and enjoy watching Rose quite a bit.

But all you do is point to his skills and stats but you never look at the fact he can't run a team and doesn't make anyone on his team better. And the fact he can't shoot a 3 keeps the lanes and paint clogged up.

Get off his nuts, learn something about basketball, and you'll see how much you guys over-rate him.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:40 PM
For those who can't read.......Rose had been working on his 3 point shot in california and now HAS a 3 point game.

SHHHH!!! Don't let the word out!!!
Just let these guys, who think they know soooooo much about Rose, continue to make stupid comments in regard to the way he plays since they don't even watch any Bulls games other than when they are on ESPN or TNT.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:42 PM
Blah blah blah...it doesn't happen to Rondo because he has the best sharpshooter in the NBA coming off picks in Ray Ray. It's fact.

Again its not like he gets all of his assists off Ray Allen. Plus, Allen wouldnt make as much if it wasnt for Rondo getting him open all game. It goes both ways... like you lol jk :p

jackdawson
07-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Rondo managed only 50 wins with KG, Pierce and Allen on his team. Imagine Rose playing with that team last year? Would have won 60 games with them.

:facepalm::facepalm:

Celtics was a TEAM last year because of Rondo. Rose's defense would have cost them more games if anything.

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Pierce has repeatedly said they have to play off him now instead of vice versa.

Source? Then I'll believe it.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:43 PM
shhhh!!! Don't let the word out!!!
Just let these guys, who think they know soooooo much about rose, continue to make stupid comments in regard to the way he plays since they don't even watch any bulls games other than when they are on espn or tnt.

lol

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:46 PM
That's what every Bulls fan likes to say when people tell the truth about Rose. I watch the bulls all the time, and enjoy watching Rose quite a bit.

But all you do is point to his skills and stats but you never look at the fact he can't run a team and doesn't make anyone on his team better. And the fact he can't shoot a 3 keeps the lanes and paint clogged up.

Get off his nuts, learn something about basketball, and you'll see how much you guys over-rate him.

Wow, douche. I'm not overrating him, i'm giving Rondo his props when due. I'm pointing out facts, not opinions. Rose can't run a team??? Are you high?

2009-2010 Bulls averaged 97.47 points per game.
2009-2010 Celtics averaged 99.22 points per game.

Combine the players on the 09-10 Bulls team and the 09-10 Celtics team and you can see that Rose did a pretty damn good job at running a team. Don't say you watched the games when it's clear that you didn't watch enough to get a good feel about Rose or the Bulls. Now...get off my nuts.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:48 PM
I really hope the rest of your posts aren't are stupid as these give it a rest man. Rondo is really good and a better overall pg at this time then Rose. But your posts are just :facepalm:. If you don't think the big three and the coaching staff Rondo has made a huge dif then you are a lost cause.

Pierce, Allen, and Garnett are past their primes. Rondo is helping them out just as much they are helping him out. I just said that so you delusional Bull fans dont use the big three as an excuse for his APG because he can average just as much on any team.

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:49 PM
Wow, douche. I'm not overrating him, i'm giving Rondo his props when due. I'm pointing out facts, not opinions. Rose can't run a team??? Are you high?

2009-2010 Bulls averaged 97.47 points per game.
2009-2010 Celtics averaged 99.22 points per game.

Combine the players on the 09-10 Bulls team and the 09-10 Celtics team and you can see that Rose did a pretty damn good job at running a team. Don't say you watched the games when it's clear that you didn't watch enough to get a good feel about Rose or the Bulls. Now...get off my nuts.

LMAO, I'm going to get a t-shirt printed "get off my nuts" lol proceeds will go to hooked on phonics for people who can't read.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:49 PM
Again its not like he gets all of his assists off Ray Allen. Plus, Allen wouldnt make as much if it wasnt for Rondo getting him open all game. It goes both ways... like you lol jk :p

lol wow...I think I could average 5 assists a game by passing to Ray Allen coming off screens. In regards to your last comment, i'm a White Sox fan, not a Cubs fan, so I don't swing the other way!!!:clap:

DreStylez
07-25-2010, 11:50 PM
Again its not like he gets all of his assists off Ray Allen. Plus, Allen wouldnt make as much if it wasnt for Rondo getting him open all game. It goes both ways... like you lol jk :p

Allen comes off screens so how does Rondo set Allen up if he's already coming off them? Please Explain. I'm pretty sure the SG is the one coming off the screens and does all the movent when the PG just has to make the right decisions whether to pass or not.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:50 PM
LMAO, I'm going to get a t-shirt printed "get off my nuts" lol proceeds will go to hooked on phonics for people who can't read.

lol nice. I'll buy one and wear it to church. :-)

What?
07-25-2010, 11:51 PM
That's what every Bulls fan likes to say when people tell the truth about Rose. I watch the bulls all the time, and enjoy watching Rose quite a bit.

But all you do is point to his skills and stats but you never look at the fact he can't run a team and doesn't make anyone on his team better. And the fact he can't shoot a 3 keeps the lanes and paint clogged up.

Get off his nuts, learn something about basketball, and you'll see how much you guys over-rate him.

You said he couldn't shoot that is wrong he is a great shooter from midrange 15-20ft. Rondo can't shoot at all and he's had 2 more years to work on it so whats your point.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:51 PM
Source? Then I'll believe it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2EguK4xj0c'

3:19 ;)

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElFTqtcyfK4

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:55 PM
lol wow...I think I could average 5 assists a game by passing to Ray Allen coming off screens. In regards to your last comment, i'm a White Sox fan, not a Cubs fan, so I don't swing the other way!!!:clap:


Allen comes off screens so how does Rondo set Allen up if he's already coming off them? Please Explain. I'm pretty sure the SG is the one coming off the screens and does all the movent when the PG just has to make the right decisions whether to pass or not.

You now you guys are not giving Rondo any credit and are pointing to one player on his team lol. You guys act like he gets all his assists from Allen. Stop being such homers and realize that Rondo is an amazing facilitator and his APG show that.

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2EguK4xj0c'

3:19 ;)

IIIIIIIIII CAN DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN YOU...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBxWii3ZbxU

;)

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejM4ux_VKuw&feature=fvst

PrestigeWldWde
07-25-2010, 11:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elftqtcyfk4

treated.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-25-2010, 11:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElFTqtcyfK4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaToXuGsoU

Scarface-Bulls
07-25-2010, 11:59 PM
ur link doesn't open hurricane

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:00 AM
IIIIIIIIII CAN DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN YOU...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBxWii3ZbxU

;)

That has absolutely nothing to do with what i said, but its ok. It shows that you are immature and cant argue intelligently for **** :rolleyes:

AddiX
07-26-2010, 12:00 AM
You said he couldn't shoot that is wrong he is a great shooter from midrange 15-20ft. Rondo can't shoot at all and he's had 2 more years to work on it so whats your point.

You Rose nut huggers are so worried about proving hes better than Rondo that you didnt even realize I never mentioned Rondo(even though he is clearly better right now).

Plus, I said he can't shoot from 3.

And why doesnt anyone dispute the fact that I said there isn't one player on his team who can say they make him a better player? Because it's true.

I give props to bulls fans, they stayed true in tough times. But you Rose nut huggers are the new breed of bulls fans, don't know shiat about bball.

DreStylez
07-26-2010, 12:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2EguK4xj0c'

3:19 ;)

Thanks :)

I didn't see Rondo do any "setting up teamates" type of deal except for play calling but D.Rose does that as well. I saw him drive and kick. Pick and Pop. Screen Rolls. Same stuff that Rose does but he did not have any 3pt threats like Rondo has.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaToXuGsoU

Nice...considering you are a Heat fan, that probably just has the same effect on you as it does to us Bulls fans.:eyebrow:

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:01 AM
ur link doesn't open hurricane

works fine for me :confused:

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:02 AM
Nice...considering you are a Heat fan, that probably just has the same effect on you as it does to us Bulls fans.:eyebrow:

Not really because this isnt about the Heat its about Rose vs Rondo and this is just another reason why hes better.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:02 AM
I like Rose better than Rondo because i like the color red not green.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:04 AM
That has absolutely nothing to do with what i said, but its ok. It shows that you are immature and cant argue intelligently for **** :rolleyes:

Lol are you serious? I put up the same video you did, but it just happened to be against the Celtics. I guess you just can't have people upstaging you because then you just call them names. Take a deep breath and relax.:rolleyes:

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:04 AM
I like Rose better than Rondo because im a giant homer.

:clap:

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:04 AM
When Rose starts for team usa and rondo watches from the bench i'm not going to thow that in ur face.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:06 AM
Lol are you serious? I put up the same video you did, but it just happened to be against the Celtics. I guess you just can't have people upstaging you because then you just call them names. Take a deep breath and relax.:rolleyes:

I call people names? Lmao. Are YOU serious? You called me a teabagger twice for absolutely no reason and another poster a douche. I havent said anything wrong other than telling you that youre a homer which is a fact.

And i never even saw your video because i assumed that out of your immaturity it would have nothing to do with this topic.

Edit: i actually did see it. I thought you were talking about another one. But like i said before that clip didnt have anything to do with what you quoted me on. That was a request that a poster asked for...

And it doesnt matter what Rose did because who has the ring?

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:06 AM
Originally Posted by HuRRiCaNeS324
I like Rondo better because he passes the ball to 3 hall of famers

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:08 AM
Not really because this isnt about the Heat its about Rose vs Rondo and this is just another reason why hes better.

Soooooooooo...since Derek Fisher has won NBA championships he is better than Rose?
I guess that makes Luc Longley better than Patrick Ewing.:facepalm:

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:09 AM
Im a Bulls fan and all i know is that Rose is better than Jesus.

DreStylez
07-26-2010, 12:10 AM
Adam Morrsion won 2 rings :)

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:10 AM
in that case Robert Horry is better than michael jordan b/c horry has 7 rings to jordan's 6

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:10 AM
Soooooooooo...since Derek Fisher has won NBA championships he is better than Rose?
I guess that makes Luc Longley better than Patrick Ewing.:facepalm:

Way to take it from one extreme to the other. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FISHER lol. Idc what about anyone else in the NBA other than Rondo and Rose right now.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:11 AM
When Rose starts for team usa and rondo watches from the bench i'm not going to thow that in ur face.

lol:clap:

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:12 AM
Im a Bulls fan and all i know is that Rose is better than Jesus.

The Bible said Jesus shoots 3s like Ray Allen.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:12 AM
Alright im done. You guys arent even arguing about Rondo and Rose anymore. Typical Bull fans that dont know jack **** about basketball.

None of you have said anything about how Rose is better. All you do is TRY and make me look stupid and fail miserably.

kjoke
07-26-2010, 12:12 AM
rondo>rose

rose= young marbury

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:13 AM
in that case Robert Horry is better than michael jordan b/c horry has 7 rings to jordan's 6

Lol that must be what Hurricane believes. Since a championship supposedly makes Rondo better than Rose.:facepalm:

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:13 AM
The Bible said Jesus shoots 3s like Ray Allen.

Rondo plays with Jesus.......Ray Allen remember the movie?

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:14 AM
Of course Rondo is better than rose...he plays with Ray Jesus Allen

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Alright im done. You guys arent even arguing about Rondo and Rose anymore. Typical Bull fans that dont know jack **** about basketball.

None of you have said anything about how Rose is better. All you do is TRY and make me look stupid and fail miserably.

We are typical Bulls fans that have seen greatness and championship after championship, so I'm guessing most of us actually know what the hell we are talking about. Read the last 4 or 5 pages and you can clearly see. I guess it's just you picking out what you what you want to read. FYI...we don't have to TRY anything...especially when you do it yourself. ;)

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Ray Allen played Jesus in the movie "He got Game" so since Rondo plays with Jesus he's better.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:17 AM
Rondo plays with Jesus.......Ray Allen remember the movie?

lol yeah...wasn't his name Jesus Shuttlesworth or something? lol

kjoke
07-26-2010, 12:17 AM
scarface-bulls

Join date: july 2010 hmmmm....

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:19 AM
Ray Allen played Jesus in the movie "He got Game" so since Rondo plays with Jesus he's better.

Very true...but Rose played with Captain Kirk from Star Trek and the great Taj Mahal, so that puts him right up there. lol

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:20 AM
We are typical Bulls fans that have seen greatness and championship after championship, so I'm guessing most of us actually know what the hell we are talking about. Read the last 4 or 5 pages and you can clearly see. I guess it's just you picking out what you what you want to read. FYI...we don't have to TRY anything...especially when you do it yourself. ;)

Keep living in the past...

And dont try an act like youre a good poster because you are very well the worst i have ever seen. You revert to mocking and name calling instead of staying within the topic of conversation. Those championships that youre talking, you prolly werent even alive to see because by the way you argue it sounds like you are <15

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:20 AM
scarface-bulls

Join date: july 2010 hmmmm....

what's your question homie?

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:20 AM
scarface-bulls

Join date: july 2010 hmmmm....

Kjoke

Join date: february 2008 hmmm....

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:21 AM
Keep living in the past...

And dont try an act like youre a good poster because you are very well the worst i have ever seen. You revert to mocking and name calling instead of staying within the topic of conversation. Those championships that youre talking, you prolly werent even alive to see because by the way you argue it sounds like you are <15

Quit living in the past???? hmmmm 2008 is in the past so let's not re-live it

What?
07-26-2010, 12:22 AM
You Rose nut huggers are so worried about proving hes better than Rondo that you didnt even realize I never mentioned Rondo(even though he is clearly better right now).

Plus, I said he can't shoot from 3.

And why doesnt anyone dispute the fact that I said there isn't one player on his team who can say they make him a better player? Because it's true.

I give props to bulls fans, they stayed true in tough times. But you Rose nut huggers are the new breed of bulls fans, don't know shiat about bball.

2 words Joahkim Noah

Him not being able to shoot from 3 has little to do with the lanes being clogged up, you don't expect your pg to be a great 3pt shooter because you don't expect him to shoot 3s you expect your sg to be a great 3pt shooter. The lanes are clogged up because Hinrich and Deng can't shoot for **** and Noah and Gibson can't get 10ft away from the basket.

kjoke
07-26-2010, 12:22 AM
what's your question homie?

bandwagon fan joining when ur team just added boozer

DreStylez
07-26-2010, 12:22 AM
Alright im done. You guys arent even arguing about Rondo and Rose anymore. Typical Bull fans that dont know jack **** about basketball.

None of you have said anything about how Rose is better. All you do is TRY and make me look stupid and fail miserably.

All my posts are rational.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:22 AM
Quit living in the past???? hmmmm 2008 is in the past so let's not re-live it

What are you even talking about?

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:23 AM
All my posts are rational.

Youre fine.

Im talking about PrestigeWorldWide.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:23 AM
Keep living in the past...

And dont try an act like youre a good poster because you are very well the worst i have ever seen. You revert to mocking and name calling instead of staying within the topic of conversation. Those championships that youre talking, you prolly werent even alive to see because by the way you argue it sounds like you are <15

Wow...you are on another level...seriously. You say, "Keep living in the past." but you put a video up of the Celtics celebrating their last championship??? What does that make you? Wait for it...wait for it...............wait for it................................................ .................................................. .................a HYPOCRITE.
What I revert to is pointing out the flaws in your posts, which are many, and putting facts in mine.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:24 AM
bandwagon fan joining when ur team just added boozer

I've been a fan since 1987.....speaking of bandwagon jumping u joined in 2008 when boston won the championship....looks like ur the band wagon jumper....don't jump too high..u'll bump ur head lol

Chronz
07-26-2010, 12:24 AM
You guys do know you can look up rondos assist rate without ray on the floor

tangent12
07-26-2010, 12:25 AM
I've been a fan since 1987.....speaking of bandwagon jumping u joined in 2008 when boston won the championship....looks like ur the band wagon jumper....don't jump too high..u'll bump ur head lol

LOL! Own3d.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:25 AM
bandwagon fan joining when ur team just added boozer

I guess this guy is Mr. Know It All.:eyebrow:

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:26 AM
i've been a fan since 1987.....speaking of bandwagon jumping u joined in 2008 when boston won the championship....looks like ur the band wagon jumper....don't jump too high..u'll bump ur head lol

treated............again.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:26 AM
Wow...you are on another level...seriously. You say, "Keep living in the past." but you put a video up of the Celtics celebrating their last championship??? What does that make you? Wait for it...wait for it...............wait for it................................................ .................................................. .................a HYPOCRITE.
What I revert to is pointing out the flaws in your posts, which are many, and putting facts in mine.

Which was responded by a person who showed me a video of Rose blocking Rondo in the past. Wait for it................................................ .........you failed again trying to make me look like an idiot. Try again....

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:28 AM
kjoke is a Heat fan :confused:

kjoke
07-26-2010, 12:28 AM
I've been a fan since 1987.....speaking of bandwagon jumping u joined in 2008 when boston won the championship....looks like ur the band wagon jumper....don't jump too high..u'll bump ur head lol

im not a boston fan, :facepalm:
lmao fan since 1987

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:31 AM
im not a boston fan, :facepalm:
lmao fan since 1987

well if you're a heat fan it's about 9:30pm and past yoru bed time.:clap:

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:32 AM
Which was responded by a person who showed me a video of Rose blocking Rondo in the past. Wait for it................................................ .........you failed again trying to make me look like an idiot. Try again....

Which wasn't responded by me until I posted the other video. The video that was the exact same video but starred Rose instead of Rondo. He didn't post for me. I have my own responses. Once again, you failed.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:33 AM
Speaking of the Heat....T-shirts are selling off the rack..."Lebron has gone south but his momma is riding West."

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:33 AM
well if you're a heat fan it's about 9:30pm and past yoru bed time.:clap:

Another example of a Bulls fan that fan that doesnt know how to argue.

Mods close this garbage of infested ****

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:35 AM
Speaking of the Heat....T-shirts are selling off the rack..."Lebron has gone south but his momma is riding West."

That's ****ing awesome. Where can I get one??? Seriously.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:36 AM
Her'e the T-shirt link http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/lebron-can-head-south-but-his-mom-rides-west-t-shirt-1394031/

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:38 AM
15 bucks t-shirt better link http://kissmyasslebron.bigcartel.com/product/you-can-head-south-but-your-mom-rides-west

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:40 AM
t-shirt proceeds goes to the Larry Bird retirement fund.

kjoke
07-26-2010, 12:40 AM
lmao, scarface-bulls has no idea what he is talking about, straight up bandwagon fan

gee1
07-26-2010, 12:40 AM
Unlike Rondo, you can build your team around Derrick Rose. He is a franchise player and has phenomenal talent. Rose doesn't have the court vision Rondo has yet, but he could get to his level soon.

Rose is arguably the most athletic point guard in the league and one of the most athletic players there is. He uses this to his advantage by driving to the rack fearlessly. He does well finishing around the basket too.

Like Rondo, Rose doesn't have a great outside shooting game. He only shot 22 percent from beyond the arc in the season. However, his mid-range game is nice and so is his free throw shooting.

Rose didn't have the talent and experience around him that Rondo does, and rose was still able to lead the Bulls to a game seven against the defending world champions.
Rondo will play an impact role for a championship team many times in his career, but Rose will be the one leading championship teams.

Better Ballhandler-D.Rose
Better Shooter- D.Rose
Better Passer- Rondo
Better Team-Rondo

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:42 AM
get the t-shirt?

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:48 AM
And PretigeWorldWide. He is off the charts actually.

Rosh should ban his *** because hes making Chicago look ********.

Keep representing SoBe. You're doing such a great job.
Rosh should pull out some baby powder, throw a little on his right hand...and slap the **** out of you.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:49 AM
lol

Ovratd1up
07-26-2010, 12:54 AM
Rose WAS the offense for last year's Bulls. This year he won't have to be. Come back midseason to this discussion, though for some reason I doubt you'll be able to call it that.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:56 AM
What are u guys writing that ur messages are getting deleted?

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:56 AM
Scarface, I bet you, as well as I, can't wait for the season to get started. Rose is better at some aspects of the game than Rondo, and Rondo is better at some aspects than Rose is. I know that Rose has been working on getting better on his weaker aspects (defense and 3-point shooting). I haven't heard about Rondo working on his weaker aspects.
My buddy has season tickets and he said he will take me to at least 10 games...that prick better stick to his word lol.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:57 AM
Rose WAS the offense for last year's Bulls. This year he won't have to be. Come back midseason to this discussion, though for some reason I doubt you'll be able to call it that.

The bulls did a good job filling out their roster considering what was left on the free agent market.

What?
07-26-2010, 12:57 AM
Thread should be closed

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:57 AM
What are u guys writing that ur messages are getting deleted?

Me calling him an idiot for being so damn immature.

Him because...well..... hes immature

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 12:58 AM
Alright guys this topic is not that serious relax, let's just talke b-ball

dodie53
07-26-2010, 12:59 AM
imo,
rose > rondo

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:59 AM
You say that there using is insults in all there posts and not bringing anything intelligent (am not going to deny or confirm that) that but your doing the same thing now posting links and just throwing insults

Youre taking to me? I have said some insults after i said i havent because he is annoying as hell.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 12:59 AM
What are u guys writing that ur messages are getting deleted?

lol...i'm going to pull a Hurricane response and say, "No bringing up the past"!!! lol;)

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 12:59 AM
Alright guys this topic is not that serious relax, let's just talke b-ball

I wonder whose fault was that :rolleyes:

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 01:01 AM
actually i got front row tickets too...i got front row tickets in my living room to watch the games.

PrestigeWldWde
07-26-2010, 01:02 AM
imo,
rose > rondo

Dodie...here comes the dog to bite your head off...HURRICANE!!!
Don't respond to anything he puts up because he is INCREDIBLE. It's impossible to argue with someone who is ALWAYS correct.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-26-2010, 01:04 AM
Dodie...here comes the dog to bite your head off...HURRICANE!!!
Don't respond to anything he puts up because he is INCREDIBLE. It's impossible to argue with someone who is ALWAYS correct.

Im actually quite the opposite, but you make it seem that way because you never have anything smart to say. 90% of your posts have absolutely nothing to do with b ball.

Scarface-Bulls
07-26-2010, 01:06 AM
so....is team usa going to go undefeated?

Stunner
07-26-2010, 01:08 AM
I would think Rose,Curry and Billups would make the team at PG because in Fiba play u need to shoot well form mid-range and out because those types of teams play zone most of the time which is Rondo's strength. If Rondo had a better jumpshot He would start no question. But for Fiba play he is the odd PG out. Come London time Rose will be the 3 PG behind CP3 and D-Will. But we have to see how those players will be a couple of years from now somebody could surpass them. Rose might be way better than he is now a couple years from now the same for Rondo.