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CelticCat
07-22-2010, 12:40 PM
Boston has the hammer offer if they want to make it: Rondo, Perkins, Sheed's ghost, No. 1 + 3m for CP3 + Okafor. NO has to say yes to that.

via Bill Simmons twitter.


If I'm boston i'd say go for it. I love Rondo hes one of my favorite players in the league but you can't turn down a deal in which would land you Chris Paul. A starting line up of Paul, Allen, Pierce, Garnett, and Okafor would be fun to watch. Plus when Danny Ainge rebuilds who better to build around than the best PG in the league Chris Paul? Having Chris Paul would be a easy recruiting tool for Boston once they rebuild.

mikealike305
07-22-2010, 12:43 PM
would be cool, dont see it tho

C-Dub
07-22-2010, 12:45 PM
ya cuz that makes sense...

Jays Claw
07-22-2010, 12:46 PM
The Celtics would be better off keeping Rajon Rondo.

CelticCat
07-22-2010, 12:46 PM
would be cool, dont see it tho

I dont think it would happen either because Perkins, and Rondo are vital to the sucess of Boston. Plus whos Paul gunna oop too? certainly not Garnett anymore. But it could work out they'd at least have a scoring PG.

Stunner
07-22-2010, 12:46 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23xtwe2 With picks

arkanian215
07-22-2010, 12:47 PM
Contend for a year and get back in the mess you started with. Good for NO though, bad for Paul. Boston is a lot worse without Perk.

Chacarron
07-22-2010, 12:51 PM
CP3 would just get out of there when his deal expires because he wouldn't have supporting cast around him in 2 years other than 3 old yellers, shrek and donkey.

Hellcrooner
07-22-2010, 12:51 PM
THen Paul walks out when his contract ends pbeause allen, pierce nd kg are wornt out compeltely in two years.?

Stick to ROndo i think he is going to be BETTER than paul if he isnt now

DQL
07-22-2010, 12:53 PM
Bill Simmons (and his dad) is a blatant Celtics homer. Anyway I think he's right. Rondo and Perkins is a hell of a package

_Supreme_
07-22-2010, 12:53 PM
How can any team turn down the offer to trade for Sheed's ghost :smoking:

CelticCat
07-22-2010, 12:54 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Rondo
Perkins
R.Wallace
Glen Davis

For

David West
Chris Paul

SeoulBeatz
07-22-2010, 12:56 PM
How would Boston fans feel about this?

Rondo has catapulted himself to elite status and he is now a top 3-5 PG in the league. From watching both play an extensive amount Cp3 is still a better overall PG, but Rondo has won over the Boston faithful.

not sure what the best move would be for u guys at this point.

JordansBulls
07-22-2010, 12:57 PM
via Bill Simmons twitter.


If I'm boston i'd say go for it. I love Rondo hes one of my favorite players in the league but you can't turn down a deal in which would land you Chris Paul. A starting line up of Paul, Allen, Pierce, Garnett, and Okafor would be fun to watch. Plus when Danny Ainge rebuilds who better to build around than the best PG in the league Chris Paul? Having Chris Paul would be a easy recruiting tool for Boston once they rebuild.

Not sure I'd do that if I'm CP3. He would only contend for like 2 more years.

CelticCat
07-22-2010, 12:58 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

For the Knick fans.

oak2455
07-22-2010, 12:59 PM
Sources: Paul Has Knicks Atop Trade Wish List

ESPN.com columnist Chris Broussard

Stunner
07-22-2010, 12:59 PM
Now ESPN saying the Knicks are the favorite.

MacFitz92
07-22-2010, 01:01 PM
Won't happen.

oak2455
07-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Bill Simmons (and his dad) is a blatant Celtics homer. Anyway I think he's right. Rondo and Perkins is a hell of a package

He is the same guy who said Tex would sign with the Sox:confused:

MacFitz92
07-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Looks like the four teams are actually:

Orlando, New York, Portland, and Dallas.

lakers4sho
07-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Not sure I'd do that if I'm CP3. He would only contend for like 2 more years.

I agree.

Once the big 3 retires, it'll be CP3 and a bunch of nobodies. Even worse off than the NO situation right now. At least the Hornets have a couple of good players and budding young guns.

Knicks is the only place CP wants to go to. He's just using the other teams as 'leverage', but at the end of the day, CP3 + Amare + Melo (possibly) is something you can't turn down.

oak2455
07-22-2010, 01:03 PM
Won't happen.

ok:rolleyes:

CelticCat
07-22-2010, 01:03 PM
Sources: Paul Has Knicks Atop Trade Wish List

ESPN.com columnist Chris Broussard

I would love for the Knicks to land Paul.

IndyRealist
07-22-2010, 01:05 PM
Horribly one-sided trades all around. If anyone gets Chris Paul, they're taking Okafor and his outrageous contract. If they're losing Paul, they're not going to give up David West as well.

The only deal I can see remotely happening for Boston would be CP3 and Okafor for Rondo, Perkins, filler, and 2 picks. And it still doesn't sort out their PG situation, since Collison would still be coming off the bench. Having two of your best players play the same position is just asking for a meltdown.

I seriously think the Pacers would offer Granger, Brandon Rush, TJ Ford, Tyler Hansbrough, and picks for Paul and Okafor. Or Granger, Rush, Troy Murphy, and picks. TJ Ford would back up Collison for a year until they can get a cheaper backup, and they're perpetually thin on the wings, so getting Rush and Granger will alleviate that. The only issue is that they'd be left without a center.

Testaverde16
07-22-2010, 01:05 PM
i dont recall boston being on Paul's list.

king4day
07-22-2010, 01:05 PM
That'd be a steal for New Orleans. To get a PG not to far behind Paul (if at all, but that's debatable) knowing Paul wants out.
I'd def like it for Boston too though.

koreancabbage
07-22-2010, 01:07 PM
Knicks cleaned house for the free agency

they don't have players left who are worth something more than the package of Paul and Okafor.

Hellcrooner
07-22-2010, 01:08 PM
Now ESPN saying the Knicks are the favorite.

wespn? didnt they have knicks as fronturrneds for Lebron for like 5 years? :rolleyes:

CelticCat
07-22-2010, 01:08 PM
i dont recall boston being on Paul's list.

I dont recall Paul having a no trade clause so its not up to Paul where he wants to go.

king4day
07-22-2010, 01:09 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23xtwe2 With picks

I don't think Boston has to give up that much. Rondo is now locked up for a few more years than Paul. That alone should be worth it for the Hornets.

Patrick Swayze
07-22-2010, 01:10 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Rondo
Perkins
R.Wallace
Glen Davis

For

David West
Chris Paul

Hilarious.

Hellcrooner
07-22-2010, 01:12 PM
The best Trade partner they could get woudl be Portland.

Miller, Rudy Fernandez, Pryzbilla, Camby , Rights to some drftess on europe , picks even Batum if they press for Paul and Okafor.

koreancabbage
07-22-2010, 01:12 PM
i dont recall boston being on Paul's list.

i don't recall that management has to trade his *** anywhere HE wants...

if he gets traded, he'll get traded, regardless of where that location is.

Knicks don't have the pieces, where as Boston might.

Boston might actually win a championship or two with Paul, seeing how well they did in the last two years when everyone counted them out. it's the big four in Boston now.

it's a team built for the playoffs and Paul might actually fit the bill better cuz he's a better scorer and passer than Rondo.

bbd24
07-22-2010, 01:13 PM
I agree.

Once the big 3 retires, it'll be CP3 and a bunch of nobodies. Even worse off than the NO situation right now. At least the Hornets have a couple of good players and budding young guns.

Knicks is the only place CP wants to go to. He's just using the other teams as 'leverage', but at the end of the day, CP3 + Amare + Melo (possibly) is something you can't turn down.

You act like the Celtics won't sign anybody when the big 3 retire.....why ? You don't think they'll use that money on other players ? You think they'll just start Scalabrine or Big Baby and call it a day ?

Hellcrooner
07-22-2010, 01:14 PM
i don't recall that management has to trade his *** anywhere HE wants...

if he gets traded, he'll get traded, regardless of where that location is.

Knicks don't have the pieces, where as Boston might.

Boston might actually win a championship or two with Paul, seeing how well they did in the last two years when everyone counted them out. it's the big four in Boston now.

it's a team built for the playoffs and Paul might actually fit the bill better cuz he's a better scorer and passer than Rondo.

problem is that he is a worse defender and defense is what lead them there specially si importand because rondo makes up for allens losing his step on defense due to age.

Patrick Swayze
07-22-2010, 01:14 PM
The best Trade partner they could get woudl be Portland.

Miller, Rudy Fernandez, Pryzbilla, Camby , Rights to some drftess on europe , picks even Batum if they press for Paul and Okafor.

No they aren't.

koreancabbage
07-22-2010, 01:14 PM
The best Trade partner they could get woudl be Portland.

Miller, Rudy Fernandez, Pryzbilla, Camby , Rights to some drftess on europe , picks even Batum if they press for Paul and Okafor.

Portland would be good as well. Though i wouldn't trade both Pryz and Camby. gotta keep one.

you gotta trade away Bayless if anything instead of Miller

Bayless
Batum
Rudy
Pryz/ Camby

_Supreme_
07-22-2010, 01:16 PM
I don't think getting a starting point guard in return is a priority for New Orleans since they have Darren Collison waiting in the wings.

That is why I don't think Boston is as good an option as people might think.

Portland does appear to me as the team with the best trading pieces. Aldridge would probably have to be included as a key piece of the package.

specialiststeve
07-22-2010, 01:16 PM
Bill is an idiot!!

shep33
07-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Won't happen. Haha people draw into this too much, Simmons is a Boston homer, nothing wrong with that, but this is what he wants to happen, not what sources or CP3 want to happen.

Paul has already said the Knicks are his #1 option

koreancabbage
07-22-2010, 01:18 PM
problem is that he is a worse defender and defense is what lead them there specially si importand because rondo makes up for allens losing his step on defense due to age.

did you see what happened in the playoffs? they couldn't score when the game was on the line. (and the fans BLAMED the refs for that remember?)

defensively, Paul is average at best while Rondo is above average. But when the offense is ran by Paul, its like a smooth running motor.

Paul took an below average team into a playoff contending team. West Okafor and Peja on one team should not equate playoffs.

Paul would rejuvenate KG's career big time.

Raidaz4Life
07-22-2010, 01:18 PM
I do not see NO's motivation to do such a trade. Why do people keep on insisting sending them a PG as one of the main pieces when they have Collison. The reason they would be receptive to trading Paul is because they have Collison. So that being said why would they pull a trade where the main piece they'd be getting in return is a PG? So they can waste Collison away again by playing Rondo 37 minutes a game? They'd also get a damaged Kendrick Perkins... yeah that makes a lot of sense. A fairly small expiring contract in rasheed and a late 1st.... I mean come on really? New Orleans could get a MUCH better package from a team like Portland.


Edit: According to espn's trade machine that trade wouldn't even work.

IndyRealist
07-22-2010, 01:23 PM
I do not see NO's motivation to do such a trade. Why do people keep on insisting sending them a PG as one of the main pieces when they have Collison. The reason they would be receptive to trading Paul is because they have Collison. So that being said why would they pull a trade where the main piece they'd be getting in return is a PG? So they can waste Collison away again by playing Rondo 37 minutes a game? They'd also get a damaged Kendrick Perkins... yeah that makes a lot of sense. A fairly small expiring contract in rasheed and a late 1st.... I mean come on really? New Orleans could get a MUCH better package from a team like Portland.


Edit: According to espn's trade machine that trade wouldn't even work.

They do need to get a PG back, just not a starting PG. I think they'd first look for wing players, where New Orleans is really, really thin

mets77
07-22-2010, 01:25 PM
wow i can't believe someone even suggested that lol

twoearl
07-22-2010, 01:28 PM
The Celtics would be better off keeping Rajon Rondo.

Yeah. Bill is being the typical homer right now. Sheed and Perkins were VERY important reasons why they got to the finals last year. If they are gone, the Celts would get hammered by teams like Orlando and LA and Miami.

Russollini
07-22-2010, 01:31 PM
He will go to NY, ORL or and outside chance to the Bobcats, if they can get someone else via trade first. They would have to torch the team though, and I think this late in the FA game that would be stupid.

Man I wish Riles would have pushed for this before going after Bosh....could you imagine CP3, Wade and Bron? I do not think he could have gotten Bosh too, but man. That would only have worked in a trade of Beas to NO. This is something I thought would have happened a while back when DC was so hot.

Russollini
07-22-2010, 01:33 PM
I don't think getting a starting point guard in return is a priority for New Orleans since they have Darren Collison waiting in the wings.

That is why I don't think Boston is as good an option as people might think.

Portland does appear to me as the team with the best trading pieces. Aldridge would probably have to be included as a key piece of the package.

He will not go to a team that does not have a chance to sign him longterm, and he already said who he will sign with. He is looking to make his own big 3.

Hellcrooner
07-22-2010, 01:38 PM
Portland would be good as well. Though i wouldn't trade both Pryz and Camby. gotta keep one.

you gotta trade away Bayless if anything instead of Miller

Bayless
Batum
Rudy
Pryz/ Camby

cam by woudl be included because portland woudl get OKAFOR back in the trade.

JOSKOMANG4
07-22-2010, 01:39 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Rondo
Perkins
R.Wallace
Glen Davis

For

David West
Chris Paul

HORNETS LINEUP:

C: Emeka Okafor/Perkins/Aaron Gray
PF: Big Baby/Darius Songaila/Craig Brackins
SF: Peja Stojakovic/James Posey/Julian Wright
SG: Marcus Thornton/Quincy Pondexter
PG: Rondo/Darren Collison

CELTICS:

C: Kevin Garnett/Jermaine O'Neal
PF: D.WEST/Luke Harangody
SF: Paul Pierce
SG: Ray Allen/Avery Bradley
PG: cp3/Nate Robinson

Sadds The Gr8
07-22-2010, 01:46 PM
why trade for Rondo when they already have a young PG to replace CP3. NO should try and get Gallo and Randolph from NY.

BkOriginalOne
07-22-2010, 01:49 PM
Paul is a natural upgrade. But it doesn't make sense for Boston, really. Rondo is the guy that makes your system go, Paul would be a 2 year rental, because he would leave after his contract because Ray Allen would be going on 37.

Maintain87
07-22-2010, 01:51 PM
I don't know why everyone is counting Boston out already? They and the Hornets were discussing a Chris Paul Rajon Rondo swap at the draft so why is everyone surprised? Here in Boston... the rumor is that Rondo is an arrogant ball hog who is unsupporting of his cast around him....I could clearly see the Celts making this kind of trade. I wouldn't mind CP3 but I would want an extension if we were to give up Rondo...Rondo's value is up there so that trade of CP3 for Rondo, two picks, and Perkins is kind of rediculous...Rondo is younger and has more years on his contract..

Maintain87
07-22-2010, 01:53 PM
Paul is a natural upgrade. But it doesn't make sense for Boston, really. Rondo is the guy that makes your system go, Paul would be a 2 year rental, because he would leave after his contract because Ray Allen would be going on 37.

They could extend Paul if he were traded here...The celts are going to make a push for Melo next yr, and this has been talked about in the celts forum in the past

Maintain87
07-22-2010, 01:54 PM
Trades are also not about pure talent in the NBA..... most of the time its about salary...

hgtiger32
07-22-2010, 01:57 PM
chris paul is my favorite player but his injuries have scared me and idk if he'll ever be a fully healthy PG, i hope I'm wrong...

JARVIS123
07-22-2010, 01:58 PM
chris paul is a way better point guard than rondo.in the finals, when kobe was guarding rondo he gave him 10 feet and rondo was scared to shoot the ball. cp3 got you 18 points & 10 assit per game with players that cound'nt lead a team to the playoffs if the league gave them 50 wins.

Wade>You
07-22-2010, 02:01 PM
Bill Simmons is a Boston Celtics fan, fwiw.

Maintain87
07-22-2010, 02:10 PM
chris paul is a way better point guard than rondo.in the finals, when kobe was guarding rondo he gave him 10 feet and rondo was scared to shoot the ball. cp3 got you 18 points & 10 assit per game with players that cound'nt lead a team to the playoffs if the league gave them 50 wins.

i agree that CP3 is a better point guard but Rondo was "afraid to shoot the ball" because he is a horrible shooter..... the celts wanted to win not lose...

Bball100
07-22-2010, 02:11 PM
Knicks have submitted an offer for him already....will c what happens...

Shahrose
07-22-2010, 02:12 PM
i would LOVE this seeing how Rondo said he was better than Paul

robdizzle3
07-22-2010, 02:13 PM
Horribly one-sided trades all around. If anyone gets Chris Paul, they're taking Okafor and his outrageous contract. If they're losing Paul, they're not going to give up David West as well.

The only deal I can see remotely happening for Boston would be CP3 and Okafor for Rondo, Perkins, filler, and 2 picks. And it still doesn't sort out their PG situation, since Collison would still be coming off the bench. Having two of your best players play the same position is just asking for a meltdown.

I seriously think the Pacers would offer Granger, Brandon Rush, TJ Ford, Tyler Hansbrough, and picks for Paul and Okafor. Or Granger, Rush, Troy Murphy, and picks. TJ Ford would back up Collison for a year until they can get a cheaper backup, and they're perpetually thin on the wings, so getting Rush and Granger will alleviate that. The only issue is that they'd be left without a center.

This would be a stupid deal from the Pacers standpoint. You trade your young team, for a star and Okafor. Granger and Paul are about equal value and the fact taht you're taking on Okafor's contract, they're giving away too much. And wouldnt CP3 want to go to a contender? Why would he choose Indian, when everybody is leaving?

Rocket21k
07-22-2010, 02:17 PM
I don't know why everyone is counting Boston out already? They and the Hornets were discussing a Chris Paul Rajon Rondo swap at the draft so why is everyone surprised? Here in Boston... the rumor is that Rondo is an arrogant ball hog who is unsupporting of his cast around him....I could clearly see the Celts making this kind of trade. I wouldn't mind CP3 but I would want an extension if we were to give up Rondo...Rondo's value is up there so that trade of CP3 for Rondo, two picks, and Perkins is kind of rediculous...Rondo is younger and has more years on his contract..

I agree. Rondo is a huge part of the current team, but Paul is a better overall player. Don't forget that before Paul's injury last year he led the league in steals for 2 years in a row. Rondo may be slightly better rebounder, but otherwise they are very similar on defense. Paul is a much better player offensively. He would also seem to be a better fit with the veterans of the team. If Rondo could shoot like Paul, it would have made the difference in the finals last year. I also don't think the Celtics would have to give up a pick in the deal. If anything they should even get one in return. Rondo's contract is far more valuable than CP3 because he is locked up long term for a reasonable salary. CP3 has a max deal short term and Okafor has one or the worst contracts in sport right now. Regardless of Perkins contributions to the NO team, his contract would make the deal work. NO would save money this year when Rasheed retires and then save the difference between CP3 and Rondo next year, and be rid of the entire Okafor boon over. It puts them in a better position to rebuild.
Portland has nothing to trade that would interest NO. Andre Miller and Camby are at the ends of their careers and not guys to be rebuilding around. Whether NO keeps Collison or not, Rondo and his contract are an extremely valuable both for the team and as trade bait.

robdizzle3
07-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Sure, Paul has a better outside shot, but Rondo is still elite, plus you can get the same thing from Perk, that you will get from Okafor, without the contract.

JARVIS123
07-22-2010, 02:30 PM
i agree that CP3 is a better point guard but Rondo was "afraid to shoot the ball" because he is a horrible shooter..... the celts wanted to win not lose...

Same scenario with CP3, do you think kobe would've played CP3 that way?

YoungOne
07-22-2010, 02:31 PM
boston doesnt need a change at the pg-postion, just need 1-2 good swingmen..

69centers
07-22-2010, 02:34 PM
I doubt he will come to Boston. If he goes to the Knicks, they will have one of the riskiest rosters in the NBA. A strong one when healthy, but way to risky considering how much time both Paul and Stoudemire can potentially miss each season.

CelticCat
07-22-2010, 02:39 PM
Knicks have submitted an offer for him already....will c what happens...

Really? Whats the offer?

NYKnicks4511
07-22-2010, 02:39 PM
NYKNICKS4511 thinks Bill Simmons could be mentally ********!

jdmd3
07-22-2010, 02:41 PM
Why ruin a good thing with Rondo? All Rondo needs to do is develop a jumpshot & he'll be in the same league as D-Will & CP3

Maintain87
07-22-2010, 02:55 PM
Same scenario with CP3, do you think kobe would've played CP3 that way?

For one CP3 is not a bad shooter, 2.. Kobe would have played him up tight if he were covering him..... You are just backing up what I'm saying.....

DaBUU
07-22-2010, 03:06 PM
Not sure I'd do that if I'm CP3. He would only contend for like 2 more years.

not really, i would think after the big 3 move on the C's would transition well and be able to build around CP3. I really cant see them building around Rondo.

DaBUU
07-22-2010, 03:07 PM
Why ruin a good thing with Rondo? All Rondo needs to do is develop a jumpshot & he'll be in the same league as Rose, D-Will & CP3

fixed the post, its cool you must have just forgot.

uws
07-22-2010, 03:09 PM
i dont think that paul would want to go to boston because the talent around him might be too old, he wants to be part of his own big 3 and beat miami, but boston doesnt give enough seasons playing at the high level where he can consistantly do that

zambo4president
07-22-2010, 03:17 PM
Honestly, I don't think the Celtics get better with that deal:shrug:

avrpatsfan
07-22-2010, 03:46 PM
Does Simmons have a real source?

IndyRealist
07-22-2010, 03:50 PM
This would be a stupid deal from the Pacers standpoint. You trade your young team, for a star and Okafor. Granger and Paul are about equal value and the fact taht you're taking on Okafor's contract, they're giving away too much. And wouldnt CP3 want to go to a contender? Why would he choose Indian, when everybody is leaving?

Chris Paul doesn't get to choose. He doesn't have a no-trade clause, he doesn't have an opt out until 2012. By then if Pacers management will have tons of cap space and seasoned young players. If they can't build a contender by then, they deserve for Paul to walk on them.

I'm a diehard Pacers fan, and a Granger fan to boot. But there's no way, NO WAY, I consider Granger and Paul anywhere close to equal value. Paul is the top PG in the league with only a couple of challengers, I'd be hard pressed to put Granger in the top 5 SF's. But hopefully Hornets management agrees with you, and takes less in trade. If Paul George develops like a lottery pick, the Pacers would be a starting SG away from being a serious playoff team in the East.

Chris Paul/AJ Price
Mike Dunleavy/Lance Stephenson
Paul George/Dahntay Jones
Emeka Okafor/Troy Murphy/Tyler Hansbrough
Roy Hibbert/Jeff Foster/Magnum Rolle

magichatnumber9
07-22-2010, 04:09 PM
The Celtics would be better off keeping Rajon Rondo.No we wouldn't, the Celtics a rebuilding in two years and Chris Paul will draw more free agents then Rondo.

Chronz
07-22-2010, 05:10 PM
I agree.

Once the big 3 retires, it'll be CP3 and a bunch of nobodies. Even worse off than the NO situation right now. At least the Hornets have a couple of good players and budding young guns.

Knicks is the only place CP wants to go to. He's just using the other teams as 'leverage', but at the end of the day, CP3 + Amare + Melo (possibly) is something you can't turn down.
Irrelevant, his contract expires in 2 years anyways. The C's could possibly rebuild on the fly with a salary structure like that, if they dont CP3 can leave regardless.

NY-SportsFan
07-22-2010, 05:18 PM
That would be a terrible deal for the Celtics. Is Bill serious?

Give up Rondo, Perkins and picks for Paul who may be damaged goods with his knee(He had his meniscus removed; not repaired) and Okafor's horrendous contract?

If I am New Orleans, I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

Kashmir13579
07-22-2010, 05:27 PM
wow. yea right. bill simmons must be a ****ing idiot

Kashmir13579
07-22-2010, 05:28 PM
No we wouldn't, the Celtics a rebuilding in two years and Chris Paul will draw more free agents then Rondo.

rajon rondo...... have you ever heard of him?

robdog_5
07-22-2010, 05:33 PM
Rondo is a huge spark plug for our older team. He brings great energy and makes plays in every phase. Now Paul is a better player, and a guy you can get offense from when you want it. Rondo is great in transition but horrible shooter. Paul is great in transition and very good shooter/scorer when he needs too. Less of a rebounder, and defender though. Okafor is a good Defender, not quite Perk, but not sure Perk is ever going to be the same with his knee injury. Once those start for big guys it's hard to get healthy as a big.

Okafor and Paul for Rondo, Perk and Sheed and one I might do.

Okafor/JO'Neil
KG/Big Baby
PP/?
Allen/Bradley
Paul/Robinson

Raidaz4Life
07-22-2010, 05:34 PM
They do need to get a PG back, just not a starting PG. I think they'd first look for wing players, where New Orleans is really, really thin

I definitely agree they do need a back up PG but at the same time you don't block the development of your young stud point guard by trading for another point guard. The problem I have with this deal is that the main piece NO would be getting is Rondo yet the last position they need a star at is PG.

Raidaz4Life
07-22-2010, 05:36 PM
That would be a terrible deal for the Celtics. Is Bill serious?

Give up Rondo, Perkins and picks for Paul who may be damaged goods with his knee(He had his meniscus removed; not repaired) and Okafor's horrendous contract?

If I am New Orleans, I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

Once again.... why? They would still be in the same exact boat they were in last year when CP3 came back. What to do with Collison.

jackdawson
07-22-2010, 05:37 PM
Bad deal for both parties. Rondo-Perkins will be a great core to build around in 2 years when the big 3 window closes. CP3 wouldn't wanna be in a rebuilding situation in 2 years. He wants to win now. CP3 in NY or in Orlando makes the most sense imo.

TheWatcher34
07-22-2010, 05:41 PM
Rondo is a better fit in Boston! Chris Paul ain't god c'mon no disrespect CP3 is one of the best but you guys get off his dick!

b1e9a8r5s
07-22-2010, 05:45 PM
Does Simmons have a real source?

Bill isn't a reporter. He was responding to someone who asked him on twitter what he (Celtics) would offer to get Paul. Everyone gets bent out of shape. He's not reporting this will happen, just saying this is an offer that he would make that he thinks the Hornets would take.

TehSamurai
07-22-2010, 05:53 PM
Why would the Hornets want that scrub Rondo if they already have Collison?

NY-SportsFan
07-22-2010, 05:56 PM
Once again.... why? They would still be in the same exact boat they were in last year when CP3 came back. What to do with Collison.

They would be in a much better financial situation than with Okafor's contract. Plus they get a pg who does not have a HUGE injury question mark like Paul. And draft picks.

Having a talented backup point guard that you could use as a trade piece is not a bad thing to have. This trade rids them of a much more serious problem.

Raidaz4Life
07-22-2010, 07:00 PM
They would be in a much better financial situation than with Okafor's contract. Plus they get a pg who does not have a HUGE injury question mark like Paul. And draft picks.

Having a talented backup point guard that you could use as a trade piece is not a bad thing to have. This trade rids them of a much more serious problem.

Theoretically yes but I GUARANTEE they could get better value and pieces they actually NEED. I mean what's the purpose of having two potential all star PG's when the entire remainder of your lineup is crap. New York could easily take on Okafor's contract and give much better pieces than Boston.

Raph12
07-22-2010, 07:02 PM
Rondo and Perk are better fits...

smith&wesson
07-22-2010, 07:04 PM
why would they give rondo up ? thats just dumb.

thats like giving up iggy to get granger.

superabound
07-22-2010, 07:16 PM
Chris Paul is just a further example of what is wrong with the NBA. Instead of trying to play hard and make his team a winner, he wants to take the easy way out and go the LeBron route and just go play with a bunch of other "superstars." I find it amazing that a player can play for a team for only 4 years and then demand a trade, especially after only playing 45 games last year. This guy has been told he is a superstar so much, he thinks he is above everybody else.

magichatnumber9
07-22-2010, 07:16 PM
If this deal goes down a lot of my fellow Celtic fans will be changing there sigs fast.

Mochalman
07-22-2010, 07:19 PM
Chris Paul is just a further example of what is wrong with the NBA. Instead of trying to play hard and make his team a winner, he wants to take the easy way out and go the LeBron route and just go play with a bunch of other "superstars." I find it amazing that a player can play for a team for only 4 years and then demand a trade, especially after only playing 45 games last year. This guy has been told he is a superstar so much, he thinks he is above everybody else.

taking the easy way out? his owner wants to cut off as much cap as possible. owner doesn't want to win, paul knows it and wants to do something about it.

Ragga
07-22-2010, 07:20 PM
Rondo is a real winner....Chris Paul more talented but I'll stick with Rajon.

avrpatsfan
07-22-2010, 07:22 PM
Why would the Hornets want that scrub Rondo if they already have Collison?

He's a total scrub.

TheChamp
07-22-2010, 07:27 PM
This.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Jahari Kavi
07-22-2010, 07:36 PM
Rondo is fantastic and still can get better imo...but Chris Paul > Rondo..............easily.......the only question would be Paul's health......if he's healthy then you do this trade every single time..............

NYMetros
07-22-2010, 07:40 PM
Rondo is a terrible defender. I'm not sure why people think he's so good. He gambles on defense way too much which leads to him getting beat time after time. But his gamble pays off like once every nine times, so when it happens everyone's like "Wow, what a great play by Rondo!"

SNYmets86
07-22-2010, 07:42 PM
damn how the NBA changed .now every darn superstar wants to play together.hey maybe next thing is putting wnba with nba players

ATL_Representa
07-22-2010, 07:58 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2g5bvwh


What yall guys think about this trade..I feel its a good deal for both teams!

rufo4100
07-22-2010, 08:35 PM
via Bill Simmons twitter.


If I'm boston i'd say go for it. I love Rondo hes one of my favorite players in the league but you can't turn down a deal in which would land you Chris Paul. A starting line up of Paul, Allen, Pierce, Garnett, and Okafor would be fun to watch. Plus when Danny Ainge rebuilds who better to build around than the best PG in the league Chris Paul? Having Chris Paul would be a easy recruiting tool for Boston once they rebuild.

The more I think about it I must agree.