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Jeffy25
07-19-2010, 01:46 AM
Which of the four are the most deserving?

Strasburg
Heyward
Posey
Garcia

Two with all the hype will likely split it somewhere

Posey is playing out of his mind and like the spec he should be

and Garcia is under rated, although, his peripherals aren't great, he has like the 4th best ERA in baseball.

Gideon
07-19-2010, 01:55 AM
Ike Davis

Wrigheyes4MVP
07-19-2010, 02:09 AM
Ike Davis should at least have his name on the list. Cmon.

theproof
07-19-2010, 02:20 AM
Posey or Strausburg

I think Strauburg will win it based off of hype alone.

Gigantes4Life
07-19-2010, 02:23 AM
A .779 OPS from a 1B doesn't exactly scream ROY to me.

Although he could still get hot and win it, I don't see it.

If Strasburg's innings are limited, I don't think he'll deserve to win it.

Heyward, Strasburg and Posey all have about a 2 WAR right now.

So it's not like either of them are clearly having more valuable seasons (although Heyward's had 150 more PA than Posey).

The homer in me says Posey, and I usually don't do that. But he's been incredible and incredibly underrated compared to the other two.

It would be pretty funny if Garcia won it, but I don't see it happening with Strasburg there (if a pitcher were to win it).

Jeffy25
07-19-2010, 02:24 AM
and that sort of sucks, because Garcia will finish the year with a very solid year. But no one will give him the votes he deserves.

Jeffy25
07-19-2010, 02:25 AM
Strasburg's rate stats are better than Garcia's, but if Stras is allowed to pitch 125 innings or so, and at this rate, it would surely go to him.

I just hate to see Garcia get overlooked because he wasn't a top prospect going into the season

Gigantes4Life
07-19-2010, 02:28 AM
and that sort of sucks, because Garcia will finish the year with a very solid year. But no one will give him the votes he deserves.

In most years he would probably win it. But Strasburg's just too damn good.

A 12.58 K/9 for a rookie SP is just too insane. Hell he's almost double Garcia's K rate.

jsand3030
07-19-2010, 02:46 AM
Posey's offense isnt the ony thing to consider.. his defense is just as good. It looks like he can play gold glove caliber at 1st base and at catcher.

chitown 4 life
07-19-2010, 03:00 AM
call me a homer but tyler colivn is having a nice year..

giants73756
07-19-2010, 03:11 AM
call me a homer but tyler colivn is having a nice year..

Yeah I was thinking of him too. But his stats aren't as good as the guys on mentioned in the poll. It's a bad year to be a rookie if your goal is to win ROY.

iggypop123
07-19-2010, 03:17 AM
once heyward gets healthy his numbers will be too tough to ignore. unless posey continues on this amazing streak (which he likely wont, he is on a page bigger than the second half manny had that one yr) its all ready for heyward and for strasburg to take 2nd place especially with his limited innings

chitown 4 life
07-19-2010, 03:30 AM
can some1 post some numbers, i would love to see tyler colvins numbers vs heywards, im not saying colvins better i just know he has less AB's...

OptimisticNot
07-19-2010, 03:42 AM
Ike "I Drop Bombs" Davis!!!!!!!!!!!!

ritz
07-19-2010, 07:46 AM
Ike's huge slump has really hurt his chances, especially with all of the other great rookies in the NL. With that said, I thought it'd be Heyward and not even close, but I really like Posey. I just watched him for 4 games and he impressed me on both sides of the game. What a great all around player.

Hopefully (as a Mets fan), Ike can get out of his slump and it looks like he may have. The problem is he has a big hitch in his swing that creates a hole and it's being exploited. He needs to make an adjustment. He does hit bombs, though. :D

ShinobiNYC
07-19-2010, 08:41 AM
A .779 OPS from a 1B doesn't exactly scream ROY to me.

Although he could still get hot and win it, I don't see it.

If Strasburg's innings are limited, I don't think he'll deserve to win it.

Heyward, Strasburg and Posey all have about a 2 WAR right now.

So it's not like either of them are clearly having more valuable seasons (although Heyward's had 150 more PA than Posey).

The homer in me says Posey, and I usually don't do that. But he's been incredible and incredibly underrated compared to the other two.

It would be pretty funny if Garcia won it, but I don't see it happening with Strasburg there (if a pitcher were to win it).

A .811 OPS is pretty meh too for a RFer.

Brooklyn Mets
07-19-2010, 08:50 AM
Ike Davis <--- homer pick ill admit it
garcia
posey
heyward
strasburg

twplanck41
07-19-2010, 09:11 AM
call me a homer but tyler colivn is having a nice year..

homer

The A Team
07-19-2010, 09:15 AM
Hell of a year for the NL ROY. I'm thinking Posey's surrounding offense will drag down his R/RBI enough to take him out of consideration. Strasburg's innings limit (and lack of wins in the early going) will hurt him. I'm discounting Heyward due to his current injury and his youth (I'm gambling that he might hit a rough patch coming off the DL). That leaves Garcia. He doesn't have the name recognition of the other guys, but I think the full year assignment is definitely going to help him along in voting.

Nymfan87
07-19-2010, 09:20 AM
It should be Jaime Garcia. He has been great this year.

Edit: I totally forgot how much Posey has been raking. If he keeps up what he's been doing for the next 70 or so games then he should get it over Garcia.

twplanck41
07-19-2010, 09:22 AM
I accidentally voted for Garcia...but I would have to say it is a toss up depending on what stats you like. I like to consider all of the stats as a whole...as a hitter a good average with decent power numbers as a rookie is what I look for so it would lean me towards Posey. If you like power then Heyward and Davis would be who you like.

Pitching is where I like to see a low WHIP and lower ERA with a decent WP. If Strasburg would have been brought up and have pitched in more games than 8 right now my vote 100% would go to him. He has a WHIP of 1.027 2.03 ERA and if his WP was for a whole season(approx 35 starts) it would make him have an 18-9 record with Cy Young numbers as a rookie. Not to mention a 13K/9 innings and a decent k/bb ratio.

Jeffy25
07-19-2010, 09:41 AM
call me a homer but tyler colivn is having a nice year..

Colvin was actually my pre-season pick :)

MilledgeGomez
07-19-2010, 09:48 AM
Ike Davis

AllTimeBest
07-19-2010, 09:56 AM
Strasburg wins, but all four of these young men have a bright career ahead of them.

Gigantes4Life
07-19-2010, 03:48 PM
A .811 OPS is pretty meh too for a RFer.

So what's a .967 OPS for a catcher? :)

jetsfan89
07-19-2010, 04:14 PM
So what's a .967 OPS for a catcher? :)

a hot start :)


oh and i dont expect him to win it, but considering he's yet to go on a really hot streak, i'm happy with ike. .345 wOBA in his rookie year is quite solid.

RedHeadsRule
07-19-2010, 04:24 PM
Continuing with the homer theme, if Ike Davis' name is being tossed around, so should Castro's, considering he plays a premier defensive position.

But I think it'll be Posey or Strasburg.

beltran15mets
07-19-2010, 04:32 PM
davis or garcia

long ball
07-19-2010, 04:34 PM
Really good year for NL rookies. I would lean a little towards Garcia, but if Posey can sustain a similar pace for the remainder of the season it would be tough not to give him the award. Heyward's pace has fallen a bit and I don't know how may innings Strasburgh will end up pitching. Ike Davis and Tyler Colvin are also having nice seasons.

Mizzou
07-19-2010, 04:37 PM
I would vote for Garcia but it depends if Posey can keep it up or not. Davis is another very strong choice for ROY. Strasburg wont win because he only has about 100 innings left this year.

marlinsfan24
07-19-2010, 04:39 PM
No love for Gaby Sanchez?

VinceCarter
07-19-2010, 04:51 PM
Mat Latos.

Why hasn't this kid been mentioned?!

Giants2009
07-19-2010, 04:51 PM
Ike Davis will win it if he played against the giants for the rest of the year!

marlinsfan24
07-19-2010, 04:52 PM
Mat Latos.

Why hasn't this kid been mentioned?!

Matt Latos and Gaby Sanchez. It's likely because their both South Florida natives!

Giants2009
07-19-2010, 04:52 PM
Mat Latos.

Why hasn't this kid been mentioned?!

wow! forgot all about this kid...didnt he just go on the DL??

bctgg27
07-19-2010, 05:05 PM
Would be great to see Ike Davis win it, but I picked Garcia.

KingsFiend
07-19-2010, 05:13 PM
Matt Latos and Gaby Sanchez. It's likely because their both South Florida natives!

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that I'm pretty sure them being from South Florida has nothing to do with it. But I do agree they should be on the list.

pujolsdabomb5
07-19-2010, 05:21 PM
Garcia is having the best year and has been most valuable to his team.

DogNamedFish
07-19-2010, 05:47 PM
Mike Leake came straight into the Reds rotation without playing a game in the minors and has a 6-1 record with a 3.5 ERA. The Reds are a half game back from the Cards for the division lead and would make the playoffs as the wild card if the season ended today. This kid deserves to be in the conversation...

fishfan79
07-19-2010, 05:59 PM
gaby sanchez should be on that list and above Ike as well

heyward will win though

Manatoo
07-19-2010, 06:02 PM
Strasburg has a 2.11 xFIP.... granted in only 48 IP but still... assuming he does not get shut down before the end of the season and does not regress to far he would be my choice.

Lincecum
07-19-2010, 06:06 PM
Buster motha****ing Posey

BayWhomp
07-19-2010, 06:10 PM
Buster mother******* Posey!

mavwar53
07-19-2010, 06:43 PM
Right now Garcia

But I think it will come down to the other 3, all depends on how they finish the season, but if posey can keep a .350 AVG he will win it, stras is supposed to be shut down in early september, and heyward has to re prove himself back from the injury.

mavwar53
07-19-2010, 06:47 PM
Mat Latos.

Why hasn't this kid been mentioned?!

Probably cause he isn't a rookie.:rolleyes:

He pitched 50.2 innings last year which disqualifies him from rookie status

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/about_mlb/rules_regulations.jsp

Vandelay16
07-19-2010, 07:07 PM
Tyler Mother **** Ing Colvin!

stretchedmonkey
07-19-2010, 07:25 PM
I'm gonna say Ike

raidersrock99
07-19-2010, 08:53 PM
bustahhh

x23cbru24x
07-19-2010, 10:39 PM
tough...i go with stanton

nabster26
07-19-2010, 10:51 PM
top ten rookies in the NL stats based upon At Bats

RK PLAYER TEAM AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
1 Gaby Sanchez FLA 329 43 99 22 2 9 39 3 0 33 56 .301 .367 .462 .829
2 Alcides Escobar MIL 298 35 72 8 5 2 25 8 3 23 38 .242 .296 .322 .618
3 Ike Davis NYM 292 45 76 18 0 13 45 1 0 32 76 .260 .334 .455 .790
4 Ian Desmond WSH 283 32 72 14 3 6 36 8 3 15 57 .254 .295 .389 .683
5 Jason Heyward ATL 268 44 67 13 3 11 45 5 4 43 70 .250 .365 .444 .809
6 David Freese STL 240 28 71 12 1 4 36 1 1 21 59 .296 .361 .404 .765
7 Starlin Castro CHC 215 22 62 12 4 2 25 3 2 20 35 .288 .345 .409 .754
8 Tyler Colvin CHC 200 34 54 12 1 13 34 2 0 14 58 .270 .318 .535 .853
9 Roger Bernadina WSH 193 19 54 9 2 5 24 7 2 15 40 .280 .340 .425 .764
10 Tommy Manzella HOU 189 13 40 5 0 1 16 0 1 10 57 .212 .259 .254 .513


Colvin tied Ike Davis tonight for the lead in hrs among rookies in the NL unless Davis his another one today

Lincecum4CY
07-19-2010, 10:55 PM
A .779 OPS from a 1B doesn't exactly scream ROY to me.

Although he could still get hot and win it, I don't see it.

If Strasburg's innings are limited, I don't think he'll deserve to win it.

Heyward, Strasburg and Posey all have about a 2 WAR right now.

So it's not like either of them are clearly having more valuable seasons (although Heyward's had 150 more PA than Posey).

The homer in me says Posey, and I usually don't do that. But he's been incredible and incredibly underrated compared to the other two.

It would be pretty funny if Garcia won it, but I don't see it happening with Strasburg there (if a pitcher were to win it).

What he said.

No way should Strasburg win it if he gets shut down in August.

It will be close between heyward/posey i hope posey wins but i think heyward will win

Gigantes4Life
07-19-2010, 11:18 PM
Strasburg who?

Madison Bumgarner FTW!

Jeffy25
07-19-2010, 11:46 PM
top ten rookies in the NL stats based upon At Bats

RK PLAYER TEAM AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
1 Gaby Sanchez FLA 329 43 99 22 2 9 39 3 0 33 56 .301 .367 .462 .829
2 Alcides Escobar MIL 298 35 72 8 5 2 25 8 3 23 38 .242 .296 .322 .618
3 Ike Davis NYM 292 45 76 18 0 13 45 1 0 32 76 .260 .334 .455 .790
4 Ian Desmond WSH 283 32 72 14 3 6 36 8 3 15 57 .254 .295 .389 .683
5 Jason Heyward ATL 268 44 67 13 3 11 45 5 4 43 70 .250 .365 .444 .809
6 David Freese STL 240 28 71 12 1 4 36 1 1 21 59 .296 .361 .404 .765
7 Starlin Castro CHC 215 22 62 12 4 2 25 3 2 20 35 .288 .345 .409 .754
8 Tyler Colvin CHC 200 34 54 12 1 13 34 2 0 14 58 .270 .318 .535 .853
9 Roger Bernadina WSH 193 19 54 9 2 5 24 7 2 15 40 .280 .340 .425 .764
10 Tommy Manzella HOU 189 13 40 5 0 1 16 0 1 10 57 .212 .259 .254 .513


Colvin tied Ike Davis tonight for the lead in hrs among rookies in the NL unless Davis his another one today

I didn't realize how well Gaby Sanchez has been playing.


Man this year, it's really gonna be a good race for NL Roy....I just still feel it will be awarded to a highly hyped ball player

Sick Of It All
07-19-2010, 11:50 PM
Ike does not deserve to be in this conversation, when he is not even the best rookie on the team.

CardsRule5
07-19-2010, 11:58 PM
Garcia!! What great numbers he is putting up. But his talent won't b recognized with a bunch of Strasburg ****. He's a future stud of an ace and deserves it. I don't care about Posey. Does he have as top numbers? **** no. Garcia all the way!! I'm ripping on those other two players. I'm just a homer. Those other two are awesome and will have great futures in the MLB.

CAIN=FUTURE
07-20-2010, 12:27 AM
I effing love this rookie class! Love Ike Davis. Love Strasburg. Love Stanton. Love Garcia. But I pick Posey!!!!!

defender4m
07-20-2010, 12:33 AM
someone whos having a good rookie season that hasnt been talked about is mike leake. maybe not like strasburg but i think hes doing pretty well

avrpatsfan
07-20-2010, 12:42 AM
Posey, Strasburg, or Heyward. It's a tough race.

lavell12
07-20-2010, 12:54 AM
If he had never injured his thumb Heyward would be running away with it. His numbers were insane before that injury which he attempted to play through.

CAIN=FUTURE
07-20-2010, 12:56 AM
How about Madison Bumgarner joining the discussion? Kinda crazy he will probably not be in the top 5.

lavell12
07-20-2010, 12:57 AM
tough...i go with stanton

ya that .235, .298, .445, .743 line is well deserving of ROY.

The_Mac22
07-20-2010, 01:00 AM
Posey FTW.

defender4m
07-20-2010, 01:19 AM
is this one of the best rookie classes in a long time because it seems like there are a lot of rookies playing huge roles for their teams this year.

Jeffy25
07-20-2010, 01:40 AM
If he had never injured his thumb Heyward would be running away with it. His numbers were insane before that injury which he attempted to play through.

and he hasn't shown he knows how to adjust yet....which is an issue for any rookie

justndav
07-20-2010, 03:05 AM
The amazing thing is there are so many great rookies in this years class in the NL. That is a great thing for the future of the game. If I were to get a vote in the matter I'd be torn between Posey, Colvin, Garcia, and Davis. But my vote would probably have to go to Posey... and I'm a Cubs fan on top of it. Posey plays a tough position and the #'s he's putting up for that position are outstanding. He's a terrific young ballplayer. But a lot of the guys in this conversation are certainly deserving and can't go wrong with really naming anyone except for Strasburg (he shouldn't win it because he wont pitch enough).

NYY NYJ NYK
07-20-2010, 10:20 AM
Posey or Strasburg

Cbast09
07-20-2010, 03:54 PM
No love for Gaby Sanchez? Dammit it's tough being a small market team.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100706&content_id=11985834&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Monte
07-20-2010, 04:02 PM
I would go with Buster Posey. This kid is for real. What are the Giants even thinking when they play him at first? He plays behind the plate as well as anyone in the game. He should be full time back there.

theDutchDetroit
07-20-2010, 04:09 PM
1. Everyone will forget strasburg after the Nats shut him down after 100 IP

2. Garcia should win it if the season ended today based on numbers. (I haven't seen him pitch yet)

3. Don't forget about Stanton. 4 Homeruns in the past 10 games. Kid found a grove

theDutchDetroit
07-20-2010, 04:12 PM
I would go with Buster Posey. This kid is for real. What are the Giants even thinking when they play him at first? He plays behind the plate as well as anyone in the game. He should be full time back there.

They had a guy who was playing solid catcher for a lot of years for them. until they traded him

sf-fanatic
07-20-2010, 04:22 PM
1. Everyone will forget strasburg after the Nats shut him down after 100 IP

2. Garcia should win it if the season ended today based on numbers. (I haven't seen him pitch yet)

3. Don't forget about Stanton. 4 Homeruns in the past 10 games. Kid found a grove

Posey 5 Hrs the past 10 games...Hitting something like 22 for the last 46 or something like that and has a throw out percentage around 40% last time i checked.

atl_braves_fan
07-20-2010, 04:28 PM
Ike Davis isn't the best rookie 1B in the NL East - Gaby Sanchez is.

Buster Posey is having a great start, but Jason Heyward's OPS was well above .950 after 150 at bats as well. If Heyward gets healthy and resumes his production by the time that Posey goes through his inevitable rookie slump, I think he will win it.

I don't think that Strasburg will get the innings to win it and Garcia is having a great season, but he was on the Cardinals active roster for more than 45 days in 2008 (July 11 - September 3) - should he even be eligible?

Cbast09
07-20-2010, 04:43 PM
Ike Davis isn't the best rookie 1B in the NL East - Gaby Sanchez is.

Buster Posey is having a great start, but Jason Heyward's OPS was well above .950 after 150 at bats as well. If Heyward gets healthy and resumes his production by the time that Posey goes through his inevitable rookie slump, I think he will win it.

I don't think that Strasburg will get the innings to win it and Garcia is having a great season, but he was on the Cardinals active roster for more than 45 days in 2008 (July 11 - September 3) - should he even be eligible?
I think Heyward will win it too.

hoggin88
07-20-2010, 04:47 PM
Ike Davis isn't the best rookie 1B in the NL East - Gaby Sanchez is.

Buster Posey is having a great start, but Jason Heyward's OPS was well above .950 after 150 at bats as well. If Heyward gets healthy and resumes his production by the time that Posey goes through his inevitable rookie slump, I think he will win it.

I don't think that Strasburg will get the innings to win it and Garcia is having a great season, but he was on the Cardinals active roster for more than 45 days in 2008 (July 11 - September 3) - should he even be eligible?

Voters don't do the research to find out. You probably remember 2008 when Edinson Volquez got ROY votes and wasn't even a rookie. :pity:

gopads!!
07-20-2010, 04:48 PM
latos isn't a rookie because of his starts last year. i'd have to say mike leake...

atl_braves_fan
07-20-2010, 04:52 PM
Voters don't do the research to find out. You probably remember 2008 when Edinson Volquez got ROY votes and wasn't even a rookie. :pity:

Yeah, he got some votes, but I think enough of them know the rules so that Garcia likely won't win it.

Chrash Davis
07-20-2010, 04:56 PM
Colvin has better numbers that Davis...I will say Garcia.

Anyone mention Leake?

raiderdave
07-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Poey is hitting around .350 while playing both first base, and catcher, at the same time handling the giants pitchers very well when catching..and hitting w/ some power...while being less hyped than strasburg and Heyward...He has now taken over the cleanup spot, and does not seem to feel the pressure. Sounds like Roolie of Year to me. Also right now in the midst of a 13 game hitting streak...it may be too early to bring this up, but if he breaks Dimaggio"s 56 game streak, they would have to name him ROY.

Zmaster52
07-20-2010, 07:27 PM
Posey,

Heyward doesn't deserve it, Neither does Strausburg

CAIN=FUTURE
07-20-2010, 07:52 PM
Ike Davis isn't the best rookie 1B in the NL East - Gaby Sanchez is.

Buster Posey is having a great start, but Jason Heyward's OPS was well above .950 after 150 at bats as well. If Heyward gets healthy and resumes his production by the time that Posey goes through his inevitable rookie slump, I think he will win it.

I don't think that Strasburg will get the innings to win it and Garcia is having a great season, but he was on the Cardinals active roster for more than 45 days in 2008 (July 11 - September 3) - should he even be eligible?

Posey already went through his rookie slump. He was like 1 for 30 or something like that when the Giants lost 7 straight games.

dre1990
07-20-2010, 07:58 PM
Posey. can hit and play D

The Jokemaker
07-20-2010, 08:21 PM
My vote goes for Ike Davis. He's been huge for the mets at 1b this year which is great for them especially considering the problems they had at that position last year. He hasn't had the pizzazz of the others but he's had a great impact so far.

mets77
07-20-2010, 08:29 PM
back just to say ike

Yankees Suck
07-20-2010, 08:39 PM
Right now it has to be Buster Posey. He came on the scene and struggled early but is now hitting .350 with 8Hr's and 29RBI on a team that literally does not know how to score.

Posey: .350 Avg, 8 Hr's, and 29 RBI (In a total of 43 games)
Heyward: .250 Avg, 11 HR's, and 45 RBI (In a total of 75 games)

Zmaster52
07-20-2010, 08:53 PM
Ike deserves it as much as Heyward (no homerism intended)

DodgersFanFor23
07-20-2010, 09:21 PM
^ Why does Ike get so much love.
His OBP is .331 unless he leads all first basemen in defense i don't see how you can even dare bring him up... did i meantion he has 76 k's in 295 AB.

Slim755
07-20-2010, 09:28 PM
Now that Heywards back he will be getting more and more love. 3/4 so far tonight with 2 doubles and an RBI. He's healthy now and will start making up for lost time.

cardsfan88
07-20-2010, 09:37 PM
Im voting for garcia, but mike leake should have his name up there bro

Pre
07-20-2010, 09:57 PM
Posey is the best all-around player in this rookie class. He's probably already the second-best hitting catcher behind Mauer. He's solid behind the plate.

PhoenixPaul
07-20-2010, 10:06 PM
I would go with Buster Posey. This kid is for real. What are the Giants even thinking when they play him at first? He plays behind the plate as well as anyone in the game. He should be full time back there.

That's the Giants' way of giving him a day off. Plus, our back up, Whiteside, has caught Sanchez for the past year, since around his no-no, so I guess they just keep pairing the two together.

MacFitz92
07-20-2010, 10:30 PM
Buster Posey.

jmtapia
07-20-2010, 11:44 PM
A healthy Heyward would be hard to beat...

letsgobrownies7
07-21-2010, 01:38 AM
Mike Leake has to get more consideration than hes is getting. He didn't even play one game in the minors and he is 7-1 with a mid 3 ERA and helping the Reds a lot.

CAIN=FUTURE
07-21-2010, 01:51 AM
Right now it has to be Buster Posey. He came on the scene and struggled early but is now hitting .350 with 8Hr's and 29RBI on a team that literally does not know how to score.

Posey: .350 Avg, 8 Hr's, and 29 RBI (In a total of 43 games)
Heyward: .250 Avg, 11 HR's, and 45 RBI (In a total of 75 games)

Wrong Right Wrong

shizzle09
07-21-2010, 01:54 AM
Buster mother******* Posey!

sfbayareafan
07-21-2010, 02:15 AM
posey

roylikeswaffles
07-21-2010, 02:20 AM
Right now, it can only be between Posey and Strasburg unless Heyward goes on a Posey-like tear for the rest of the season. The homer in me wants Posey to win, but in reality he's already playing well enough to win. He's hitting .352 with 8 HR, 27 runs, and 30 RBI in 44 games, and this is with his rookie slump. Not to mention he calls the game and has outstanding defense. I personally think at this point, Posey should win because he is a multi-dimensional player who excels at almost all aspects of baseball. Even if he cools off, he still contributes to the team's success with his play calling and rocket arm. Strasburg on the other hand, can only contribute in one way to his team and I would not be surprised if teams start to figure out his rookie flaws and capitalize on them. I can see Heyward winning if he plays decently the rest of the way, especially with the hype surrounding him but as of right now, I'd have to give Posey the edge because he has been consistently producing in more ways than one.

downsos
07-21-2010, 07:34 AM
I would like Posey to win, but as long as he keeps playing well I really wouldn't care. I think it will go to Heyward or Strasburg. They both have had a lot of hype and both have played well so it's not like they won't deserve it.

yankswin27
07-21-2010, 10:22 AM
I like Posey for Rookie of the Year, especially if he plays out the rest of the season (which he will probably do).

Lincecum
07-21-2010, 12:05 PM
Right now it has to be Buster Posey. He came on the scene and struggled early but is now hitting .350 with 8Hr's and 29RBI on a team that literally does not know how to score.

Posey: .350 Avg, 8 Hr's, and 29 RBI (In a total of 43 games)
Heyward: .250 Avg, 11 HR's, and 45 RBI (In a total of 75 games)

We're 17th in runs a scored ahead of the Tigers, Mets, Marlins and Cubs..and 12th in hits..sure we aren't a powerhouse team but we've sure improved from the last couple of years. :shrug:

rcal10
07-21-2010, 12:20 PM
My vote would be for Posey. if not him then Strasburg. I do not even know why Heyward
is getting so many votes. he is the most hyped rookie, but in reality he isn't having a year any better then someone like Colvin, who should not be considered. This is not to say Heyward will not have the best career ahead of him. I believe he will, but this year he is not livng up to a ROY award.

HowFit
07-21-2010, 12:31 PM
Heyward been playing with an injury, now he's healthy we will see what he brings....if he back in old form then he got the edge....if not, either Posey or Strasburg (if enough innings)

salto
07-21-2010, 12:54 PM
David Freese could get some more attention. He, like Heyward had been playing through an injury as well. His numbers weren't very far off Heywards when they were both healthy and Heyward strikes out a lot more. As for pitchers, I'm a homer and have to go with Garcia. I hate when everybody rates a pitcher as great, then only mentions their S.O. totals. The pitchers that are most efficient, pitch to contact and get outs in 1 or 2 pitches, like Garica. Strasburg is a phenom as is Posey, but it remains to be seen if they can maintain throughout the season. So far, Heyward and Garcia are the best in my opinoion that have shown consistancy, and broke camp with their teams.

theproof
07-21-2010, 01:24 PM
We're 17th in runs a scored ahead of the Tigers, Mets, Marlins and Cubs..and 12th in hits..sure we aren't a powerhouse team but we've sure improved from the last couple of years. :shrug:

And let's not forget that our lineup in the first couple of months of the season was a complete joke compared to what we have out there now.

Yankees Suck
07-21-2010, 08:45 PM
Wrong Right Wrong

Posey struggled early on when he first came up. Look at his stats. How do you not know a guy struggled when he is on your favorite team? Then again a Giant hitting .260 is practically a god for that team.

Posey in June: .259 Avg, 1HR, and 6 RBI (24 games)- Struggled

Posey in July: .446 Avg, 7Hr's, and 20 RBI, (17 games)- On fire:worthy:

Yankees Suck
07-21-2010, 08:46 PM
We're 17th in runs a scored ahead of the Tigers, Mets, Marlins and Cubs..and 12th in hits..sure we aren't a powerhouse team but we've sure improved from the last couple of years. :shrug:

Imagine what the Giants could do if they were 10th in runs or in the top 5. That would be a scary team.

shizzle09
07-22-2010, 08:19 PM
Imagine what the Giants could do if they were 10th in runs or in the top 5. That would be a scary team.

would be really dirty

DavidWright5
07-22-2010, 08:21 PM
Buster Posey should win it, he's killing it right now.

d79cheese
07-22-2010, 08:25 PM
Posey struggled early on when he first came up. Look at his stats. How do you not know a guy struggled when he is on your favorite team? Then again a Giant hitting .260 is practically a god for that team.

Posey in June: .259 Avg, 1HR, and 6 RBI (24 games)- Struggled

Posey in July: .446 Avg, 7Hr's, and 20 RBI, (17 games)- On fire:worthy:

through his first 13 games:

.429 average, 1.074 OPS, hits in 12 of the 13 games, including 7 multi hit games. i would say that is not struggling early on. his next 15 or so games he struggled, and since then he has been one of the best hitters in the game.

SJearthquakes21
07-22-2010, 08:52 PM
leake? anyone? quitely posting a good year as well

theLgndKllr35
07-22-2010, 09:02 PM
It's going to be Strasburg. Who has been getting the most press out of any of these rookies? Strasburg. He's marketing gold. There's a legit argument for him to win it. MLB will jump all over the chance to give him any award eligible.

zambo4president
07-22-2010, 10:00 PM
:laugh2: Tyler Colvin's not even on the list?

CAIN=FUTURE
07-22-2010, 10:23 PM
Imagine what the Giants could do if they were 10th in runs or in the top 5. That would be a scary team.

Just give it a few years. Posey, Sadoval, plus prospects, plus no Aaron Rowand!!

theLgndKllr35
07-22-2010, 10:32 PM
:laugh2: Tyler Colvin's not even on the list?

While Colvin's having a good season, and the numbers back up and argument for him, let's be realistic. This is between Strasburg, Heyward, and Posey.

fishfan79
07-22-2010, 11:09 PM
.300/.366/.468/.834 10 hrs 42 rbis 33BB/57ks

Not too bad numbers for Gaby Sanchez whom has been up all year hitting in the number 2 spot for florida. kid deserves to be on the list and some recognition. He has been a force all year long unlike many whom have played only a few games. Not saying he should win, but he should be on the list.

Gigantes4Life
07-22-2010, 11:11 PM
Yeah he's having a nice season. It's always a good sign to see rookies have good plate discipline.

metfan4life775
07-22-2010, 11:15 PM
i think there will be some guys who deserve at least a mention but will get no mention

ATL Jonny Venters 45ip 46K's 1.20era 1.04 whip He is a MR so he wont really get any notice but Strasburgh has 54 ip which is just 9 more and beside K's Venters is better stats wise so far this year

FLA Gaby Sanchez 10HR/42RBI's/.300avg with a .366 OBP and SLG .468
NYM Ike Davis 13HR/45RBI's/.253avg with a .327 OBP and SLF .441

compare them with Jason

ATL Jason Heyward 11HR/46RBI's/.259avg with a .369 OBP and SLG .453

Really if anyone one of these 3 kids heat up and have one good month and one All-star month either one of these 3 can take it but IF it ended tonight out of the three i give it to Sanchez based on numbers BUT heyward will get more love since he is helping his team stay on top of the NL EAST

fishfan79
07-22-2010, 11:15 PM
he is sorta interesting to root for as he has always been the guy that was overlooked from college at Miami to all through the Minors. Everyone talked about Logan Morrison (killing it in AAA) and never him even though he won the AA MVP two years ago. Just an interesting kid to follow. I dont expect him to win it, far far too many names, but he could easily end up when everyone calms down with the best hitting numbers (not power just eye and hits, etc etc nice for a number 2 hitter). right now posey is murdering the ball, good to see from a kid going to school from the state of florida :) (even though I hate fsu)

metfan4life775
07-22-2010, 11:16 PM
leake? anyone? quitely posting a good year as well

him and Niese both rookies are posting similar numbers right now both well behind Garcia though

metfan4life775
07-22-2010, 11:19 PM
through his first 13 games:

.429 average, 1.074 OPS, hits in 12 of the 13 games, including 7 multi hit games. i would say that is not struggling early on. his next 15 or so games he struggled, and since then he has been one of the best hitters in the game.

o yea well uhmmm the mets have a rookie batting .571 right now and he has played in 24 games so far :D

but no posey def is killing it right now and should be very interesting come down to the end i think it will also be mainly who has the best aug and whose team is playing in october and who isnt honestly

Slim755
07-22-2010, 11:27 PM
i think there will be some guys who deserve at least a mention but will get no mention

ATL Jonny Venters 45ip 46K's 1.20era 1.04 whip He is a MR so he wont really get any notice but Strasburgh has 54 ip which is just 9 more and beside K's Venters is better stats wise so far this year



Love the Venters mention, in no way do I expect ROY talk for him, but he has been really good for the Braves

stupidmop
07-22-2010, 11:51 PM
Regardless of who wins it, this year's crop of new players is really exciting for the game. Strasbourg, Posey, and Heyward are all players who will or could be franchise players and define their teams' style of baseball for years to come.

A real good sign for our sport. All of them have delivered. I think Strasbourg will get it due to the hype around him coming into the bigs.

El Hombre#5
07-23-2010, 12:07 AM
Jaime Garcia.

He's been rather dominant.

x_notorious
07-23-2010, 12:23 AM
Posey is enjoying his July. Currently on a 16 game hitting streak.

Gigantes4Life
07-23-2010, 12:31 AM
Posey is enjoying his July. Currently on a 16 game hitting streak.

Who are you? :eyebrow:

x_notorious
07-23-2010, 12:38 AM
Who are you? :eyebrow:

Your name sounds familiar, have we met?

Side note: Giants take half game lead in Wild Card race. World Series, here we come!:hide:

metfan4life775
07-23-2010, 01:33 AM
Love the Venters mention, in no way do I expect ROY talk for him, but he has been really good for the Braves

i have followed this kid since the first time i saw him pitch for ATL in like the 2nd week of the season i think he is VERY UNDER RATED he has 12 holds and can pitch in a tight spot when he needs to and just wondering is he in line at all to take over the closer role next year when wagner leaves?

Gigantes4Life
07-23-2010, 01:48 AM
Your name sounds familiar, have we met?

Side note: Giants take half game lead in Wild Card race. World Series, here we come!:hide:

There's a Giants forum you know. Speaking of which, we just had 5k+ posts in our last GT.

Kinsm
07-23-2010, 02:54 AM
Ike Davis isn't the best rookie 1B in the NL East - Gaby Sanchez is.

Buster Posey is having a great start, but Jason Heyward's OPS was well above .950 after 150 at bats as well. If Heyward gets healthy and resumes his production by the time that Posey goes through his inevitable rookie slump, I think he will win it.

I don't think that Strasburg will get the innings to win it and Garcia is having a great season, but he was on the Cardinals active roster for more than 45 days in 2008 (July 11 - September 3) - should he even be eligible?

Those dates are incorrect. Garcia was called up July 10th 2008, Optioned to AAA on July 21st 2008, Recalled August 1st 2008, Optioned again to AAA on August 27th 2008. He spent the entire 2009 season on the dl (and minor league rehab) which doesn't count as accumulated service time.

He had not reached the 45 game max limit till this season.....hence he is in fact a rookie this year.


The current standard of 130 at bats, 50 innings pitched or 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club (excluding time in military service or on the disabled list) before September 1 was adopted in 1971.

justndav
07-23-2010, 03:50 AM
I think what you are going to see happen is a lot of first place votes being split between Strasburg and Heyward. Then it probably all comes down to the second and third place votes... whoever wins a majority of those ballot spots and has enough mention on the first place votes will win it. This is where you get sleeper winners like Sanchez of FLA, Colvin of CHC, Leake of CIN, and so forth... so keep that in mind as well. I personally still gotta go with Posey he's tops in my book.

Jeffy25
07-23-2010, 05:19 AM
I think what you are going to see happen is a lot of first place votes being split between Strasburg and Heyward. Then it probably all comes down to the second and third place votes... whoever wins a majority of those ballot spots and has enough mention on the first place votes will win it. This is where you get sleeper winners like Sanchez of FLA, Colvin of CHC, Leake of CIN, and so forth... so keep that in mind as well. I personally still gotta go with Posey he's tops in my book.

like the 09 nl cy young

Gigantes4Life
07-23-2010, 05:32 AM
like the 09 nl cy young

Hopefully they get it right just like that one. :)

Jeffy25
07-23-2010, 05:38 AM
Hopefully they get it right just like that one. :)

shut it Giants fan






:D

todu82
07-23-2010, 08:55 AM
Getting back on track my vote would go to Jason Heyward

infernoscurse
07-23-2010, 10:11 AM
neither heyward nor strasburg have had the consistency that garcia has had since the year started, pretty tough to go against him although there is still time for a good run from guys like posey, strasburg and heyward

raidersrock99
07-23-2010, 10:19 AM
posey =D

CubsBullsBucs
07-23-2010, 11:10 AM
Pedro alvarez!

Kyle man
07-23-2010, 11:31 PM
I think all of the hype will probably win it for Heyward. If not Heyward, the Strasburg

zambo4president
07-23-2010, 11:39 PM
While Colvin's having a good season, and the numbers back up and argument for him, let's be realistic. This is between Strasburg, Heyward, and Posey.

I didn't say he would win It's just a joke he's not even on this poll. He's been every bit as good as Heyward, just the media doesn't suck his dick.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-23-2010, 11:39 PM
De Pinga.....

Cant believe Gaby Sanchez isnt on there.

kjoke
07-23-2010, 11:50 PM
gaby sanchez of marlins...

wow people need to regonize

ntat
07-24-2010, 12:05 AM
BUSTER BABY!!!! But seriously i think its Garcia. He has been doing it all year under the radar.

Flamarlins21
07-24-2010, 12:07 AM
He won't win it but Marlins first baseman Gaby Sanchez needs to be in the ROY talk.

kjoke
07-24-2010, 12:09 AM
yeah thats what i mean 10 pages and proabably not one single person saying sanchez being in he debate

marlinsfan24
07-24-2010, 12:09 AM
Gaby Sanchez =P

ntat
07-24-2010, 12:12 AM
yeah thats what i mean 10 pages and proabably not one single person saying sanchez being in he debateWell the fact that u just said it negates ur argument right?:shrug:

kjoke
07-24-2010, 12:15 AM
Well the fact that u just said it negates ur argument right?:shrug:

:sad2:
:)

ntat
07-24-2010, 12:38 AM
lol

Slim755
07-25-2010, 01:01 PM
i have followed this kid since the first time i saw him pitch for ATL in like the 2nd week of the season i think he is VERY UNDER RATED he has 12 holds and can pitch in a tight spot when he needs to and just wondering is he in line at all to take over the closer role next year when wagner leaves?

You know they haven't mentioned that possibility a whole lot but I wouldn't mind seeing that at all. They have in AAA now who was called up earlier in the year, Craig Kimbrel. He's pretty good too, little wild, but they are calling him a right handed Billy Wagner.

majestic
07-25-2010, 01:09 PM
tyler colvin

SFGiants4life
07-25-2010, 01:15 PM
Buster ****ing Posey

Silent
07-25-2010, 01:20 PM
Where's Colvin ?

The_Jamal
07-25-2010, 01:38 PM
Hey, Buster Posey

BALLER71
07-25-2010, 01:51 PM
Ike Davis should at least have his name on the list. Cmon.

Gaby Sanchez is still better ;)

gocubs2118
07-25-2010, 01:53 PM
I would go with Castro before Colvin.

MetsFanatic19
07-25-2010, 02:12 PM
ryota igarashi

Ezio
07-25-2010, 02:32 PM
I would go with Castro before Colvin.

He's just going by the fact that Colvin leads all rooks in homeruns. I agree though Castro is better atm.

hype707
07-25-2010, 02:38 PM
Buster ****KKCKKCKIN POSEY

RedSoxFan2434
07-25-2010, 03:17 PM
Garcia is a darkhorse but carrien that team

gotta b strasburg

h2r09
07-25-2010, 03:24 PM
pretty pathetic how gaby sanchez has only been mentioned by marlins fans when he has better numbers than heyward and posey thus far. the reason he doesnt hve more rbi's is because he was hitting 8th for the first month and a half.

SB75
07-25-2010, 03:43 PM
It's Jason hands down. He's lived up to his hype, played through an injury, made the All-star team, and most importantly is doing this on a division leading team. Strausburg will be second. Some can make an argument for him, he's also lived up to his hype and pitched excellent. But his low number of innings pitched has to factor in. I'm surprised that some would argue against these two not being one and two. All of us have our own teams, but come on.

sf-fanatic
07-25-2010, 03:50 PM
pretty pathetic how gaby sanchez has only been mentioned by marlins fans when he has better numbers than heyward and posey thus far. the reason he doesnt hve more rbi's is because he was hitting 8th for the first month and a half.

Wouldn't that be a bad thing? Posey is putting up similar numbers to Sanchez in half the at bats...

momoneyyyy
07-25-2010, 04:09 PM
i gotta say posey he is just killing the ball.

Gigantes4Life
07-25-2010, 04:11 PM
pretty pathetic how gaby sanchez has only been mentioned by marlins fans when he has better numbers than heyward and posey thus far. the reason he doesnt hve more rbi's is because he was hitting 8th for the first month and a half.

lulz

Gaby Sanchez: .849 OPS
Buster Posey: .958 OPS

Sanchez is a 1st basemen, Posey's a catcher. lulwut?


It's Jason hands down. He's lived up to his hype, played through an injury, made the All-star team, and most importantly is doing this on a division leading team. Strausburg will be second. Some can make an argument for him, he's also lived up to his hype and pitched excellent. But his low number of innings pitched has to factor in. I'm surprised that some would argue against these two not being one and two. All of us have our own teams, but come on.

So, let me get this straight. Posey has better offensive numbers than Heyward while Posey plays a premium position while Heyward is a corner outfielder.

We all have our teams, but come on.

SB75
07-25-2010, 04:28 PM
lulz

Gaby Sanchez: .849 OPS
Buster Posey: .958 OPS

Sanchez is a 1st basemen, Posey's a catcher. lulwut?



So, let me get this straight. Posey has better offensive numbers than Heyward while Posey plays a premium position while Heyward is a corner outfielder.

We all have our teams, but come on.

Posey didn't come in with anywhere near the expectations that Jason and Stras did. He's not playing under the same pressure. He's also 23 and has 100+ less at bats, and previous playing time in the Majors. You just can't compare the two. Posey is having a great year and if he finishes the way he's playing now maybe you have a point. But until he gets up close to 300 ab's, that limited play that I talked about with Stars, comes into play with him as well.

Lincecum
07-25-2010, 04:29 PM
buster buster buster

jmtapia
07-25-2010, 04:52 PM
Jason Heyward.

Gigantes4Life
07-25-2010, 04:54 PM
Posey didn't come in with anywhere near the expectations that Jason and Stras did. He's not playing under the same pressure. He's also 23 and has 100+ less at bats, and previous playing time in the Majors. You just can't compare the two. Posey is having a great year and if he finishes the way he's playing now maybe you have a point. But until he gets up close to 300 ab's, that limited play that I talked about with Stars, comes into play with him as well.

I'll buy the limited playing time, but the expectations is ********.

Posey's the only one that actually had competition and was brought up without a guaranteed starting job.

He also has the pressure of catching one of the best pitching staffs in baseball.

jmtapia
07-25-2010, 05:08 PM
should be an interesting race... Heyward isnt given enough credit for his defensive skills.

SB75
07-25-2010, 05:46 PM
I'll buy the limited playing time, but the expectations is ********.

Posey's the only one that actually had competition and was brought up without a guaranteed starting job.

He also has the pressure of catching one of the best pitching staffs in baseball.

Expectations is ********?

Really man?

It's a lot harder for a player who they expect the world out of to live up to it, than a player ( who as you said didn't have a job) with no expectations on to do well. If they sent Posey back down no one would have been down on him, most of the national media wouldn't have even cared. But on the other hand Jason had the National media on his back the entire time and has lived up to it despite playing through an injury where he couldn't hit anything for 6 weeks to a month ( Bobby should have DL'ed him sooner, a lot sooner).

Most in all sports fail to meet the hype they build for themselves, when I see the few that come in and live up to it from day one ( Jason, Stras, LBJ, Shaq, ect) they deserve all the credit they get. It's not easy!

shizzle09
07-25-2010, 05:46 PM
Ummmm, Buster is a beast!!! wow this sob is raking.

shizzle09
07-25-2010, 05:51 PM
Expectations is ********?

Really man?

It's a lot harder for a player who they expect the world out of to live up to it, than a player ( who as you said didn't have a job) with no expectations on to do well. If they sent Posey back down no one would have been down on him, most of the national media wouldn't have even cared. But on the other hand Jason had the National media on his back the entire time and has lived up to it despite playing through an injury where he couldn't hit anything for 6 weeks to a month ( Bobby should have DL'ed him sooner, a lot sooner).

Most in all sports fail to meet the hype they build for themselves, when I see the few that come in and live up to it from day one ( Jason, Stras, LBJ, Shaq, ect) they deserve all the credit they get. It's not easy!

Since when did ESPN or the national media give a **** about the west coast anyway? I'm guessing you're not from the bay area. The hype this kid had around here had him tabbed as the savior to the giants awful offense. To dismiss Posey simply because you think he had less pressure is pretty lame.

Gigantes4Life
07-25-2010, 05:53 PM
Expectations is ********?

Really man?

It's a lot harder for a player who they expect the world out of to live up to it, than a player ( who as you said didn't have a job) with no expectations on to do well.

Prove it.


If they sent Posey back down no one would have been down on him, most of the national media wouldn't have even cared. But on the other hand Jason had the National media on his back the entire time and has lived up to it despite playing through an injury where he couldn't hit anything for 6 weeks to a month ( Bobby should have DL'ed him sooner, a lot sooner).

If they had sent him down the media would have stopped talking about him.


Most in all sports fail to meet the hype they build for themselves, when I see the few that come in and live up to it from day one ( Jason, Stras, LBJ, Shaq, ect) they deserve all the credit they get. It's not easy!

Heyward's lived up the hype? The hype was that he was going to be some elite player, and while he's good, he hasn't lived up the hype at all.

It's called "Rookie of the Year," not "Rookie who Lived up to their hype the most of the year."

sf-fanatic
07-25-2010, 06:02 PM
Expectations is ********?

Really man?

It's a lot harder for a player who they expect the world out of to live up to it, than a player ( who as you said didn't have a job) with no expectations on to do well. If they sent Posey back down no one would have been down on him, most of the national media wouldn't have even cared. But on the other hand Jason had the National media on his back the entire time and has lived up to it despite playing through an injury where he couldn't hit anything for 6 weeks to a month ( Bobby should have DL'ed him sooner, a lot sooner).

Most in all sports fail to meet the hype they build for themselves, when I see the few that come in and live up to it from day one ( Jason, Stras, LBJ, Shaq, ect) they deserve all the credit they get. It's not easy!

What the hell are you talking about? Both players are playing with enormous pressure and expectations because both teams are right in the middle of the playoff race. ESPN doesn't have the final vote for ROY. Sorry.

You give Posey 100+ more at bats and he will be outproducing Heyward this year.

High and Tight
07-25-2010, 06:05 PM
Ike Davis

shizzle09
07-25-2010, 06:46 PM
Prove it.



If they had sent him down the media would have stopped talking about him.



Heyward's lived up the hype? The hype was that he was going to be some elite player, and while he's good, he hasn't lived up the hype at all.

It's called "Rookie of the Year," not "Rookie who Lived up to their hype the most of the year."

:clap::clap::clap:

shizzle09
07-25-2010, 07:13 PM
lmfao at Strasburg being the lowest % on this poll so far. No way he doesnt take first or second.

bballgrda
07-25-2010, 07:14 PM
If you look at Heywards stats before he got injured (early-mid May) and after the All Star Break they are pretty damn good.

1908_Cubs
07-25-2010, 07:16 PM
Probably Strasburg. Posey's been real good, as has Heyward, and don't look now but Starlin Castro is top 5 in the entire league in hitting for SS's. But all in all, the most impressive rookie has been Strasburg even if he only pitches around 100 MLB innings.

Mell413
07-25-2010, 07:49 PM
I think Heyward will win it. The innings limit for Strasburg will probably cost him the award. If Castro would have been up at the start of the season I think he would have a legit shot at winning this.

Posey28
07-25-2010, 07:51 PM
Garcia right now. If Posey keeps hitting he'll get it. Heyward is gonna need to ****ing rake to get it and Strasburg will get shut down too early.

Looks like a two horse race to me: Garcia-Posey

JakeDelbreezy
07-25-2010, 08:02 PM
Heyward has been on a tear since coming back from the DL. If he plays well the rest of the way and the Braves finish with the best record in the NL he'll probably win it whether he deserves it or not.

m26555
07-25-2010, 08:10 PM
1. Garcia
2. Posey
3. Sanchez/Heyward (tie)

dolfan720
07-26-2010, 01:11 PM
Gaby Sanchez is leading all rookies in batting avg

Lincecum
07-26-2010, 01:15 PM
Gaby Sanchez is leading all rookies in batting avg

:confused:

Posey .371 avg

Sanchez .304 avg

Young2Kinsler
07-26-2010, 01:27 PM
:confused:

Posey .371 avg

Sanchez .304 avg

Close!