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xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 08:07 PM
All predictions. I have The Orlando magic vs The La lakers WIth mia heat getting elminated by the magic in the ECF and the OKC thunder losing in the WCF.
WHat are your thoughts???

Gators123
07-17-2010, 08:08 PM
Lakers vs Heat

No idea who would win, but it should go 7 games.

hustleloyrspct
07-17-2010, 08:13 PM
my opinion is two-sided...i would LOVE to see the bulls vs the thunder but its prolly gonna be the magic vs the lakers

JordansBulls
07-17-2010, 08:14 PM
Bulls vs Blazers:)

black1605
07-17-2010, 08:16 PM
Bobcats vs. Lakers

Cats in 4

ATX
07-17-2010, 08:18 PM
Heat/Lakers

MavsFan4eva
07-17-2010, 08:19 PM
Mavs-Heat

marlinsfan24
07-17-2010, 08:21 PM
Heat-Lakers.

Tqafg96
07-17-2010, 08:21 PM
Knicks Vs. Grizzlies

Knicks in 7 with Raymond Felton as Finals MVP.

TheKing23
07-17-2010, 08:24 PM
Blazers/Heat

I know it's a big IF, but IF Greg Oden stays healthy and continues the play from early last season, the Blazers are probably the only team in the league that has the size to compete with the Lakers. Oden/Aldridge/Camby/Pryzbilla could neutralize Gasol/Bynum.

Roy will be an elite player next year, and Batum continues to improve. Andre Miller is one of the most underrated floor generals in the league that works perfectly with Roy, and the Blazers have a great bench.

I could honestly see them upsetting the Lakers.

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Bulls vs Blazers:)

I dont know if the blazers can get there with the lakers but its possible i see the bulls being a 3 seed

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Knicks Vs. Grizzlies

Knicks in 7 with Raymond Felton as Finals MVP.

I would love to see that lol :):)

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 08:27 PM
Blazers/Heat

I know it's a big IF, but IF Greg Oden stays healthy and continues the play from early last season, the Blazers are probably the only team in the league that has the size to compete with the Lakers. Oden/Aldridge/Camby/Pryzbilla could neutralize Gasol/Bynum.

Roy will be an elite player next year, and Batum continues to improve. Andre Miller is one of the most underrated floor generals in the league that works perfectly with Roy, and the Blazers have a great bench.

I could honestly see them upsetting the Lakers.

ITZ possible but i dont see it happening. I see the rockets having good size with yao back. ANd kevin martin can play so can arron brooks

VinceCarter
07-17-2010, 08:31 PM
All predictions. I have The Orlando magic vs The La lakers WIth mia heat getting elminated by the magic in the ECF and the OKC thunder losing in the WCF.
WHat are your thoughts???

Exactly my thoughts.

bbblack40
07-17-2010, 08:33 PM
I see it being the blazers vs. the Heat. Heat winning at home in six
Wade being the finals MVP.

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 08:35 PM
I see it being the blazers vs. the Heat. Heat winning at home in six
Wade being the finals MVP.

I just dont think the blazers have enough uNless you see greg oden finally staying healthy. Healthy he showed Potential

Sly Guy
07-17-2010, 08:37 PM
I'll decide after the season starts and then I can judge the revamped rosters and choose the two most entertaining teams.

_KB24_
07-17-2010, 08:43 PM
Lakers/Magic. I can still see Boston making one last push and end up making the Finals to break the tie break between them and LA for this era.

DeyAce
07-17-2010, 08:45 PM
Lakers/Heat

bmcpx1034
07-17-2010, 08:56 PM
Houston V Bulls

Human FlameShld
07-17-2010, 09:00 PM
Sixers beat the Lakers in four huge blowouts with all players on both teams completely healthy....ok so that won't happen but I'd love it.


My real prediction, I'm going out on a limb with my prediction:

Utah beating the Heat

20GoodTimes20
07-17-2010, 09:04 PM
[QUOTE=xxplayerxx23;14177632]All predictions. I have The Orlando magic vs The La lakers WIth mia heat getting elminated by the magic in the ECF and the OKC thunder losing in the WCF.
WHat are your thoughts???[/QUOTE

Lakers vs. Heat

would like to see...Rockets vs. Bulls

mikantsass
07-17-2010, 09:09 PM
Celtics vs Lakers

fadedmario
07-17-2010, 09:24 PM
Las Vegas Pistons / Los Angeles Lakers

Dillon.Sandhu
07-17-2010, 09:27 PM
Dallas Vs Orlando

Dallas Wins In 7

show34
07-17-2010, 09:28 PM
its probably gonna be HEAT VS OKC LAKERS WOULDVE BEEN IF THEY ADDED TMAC AND OR SHAQ THEY CANT WIN WITH THE SAME STUFF YR IN AND YR OUT YA DIG?

Raidaz4Life
07-17-2010, 09:31 PM
Lakers vs Knicks.... no really:eyebrow:

Ticket Guy
07-17-2010, 09:31 PM
Eastern Finals Orlando Over Chicago 4-2
Western Finals Oklahoma City Over Denver 4-1
(Lakers will have a major injury unfortunately that will prevent the title)

Orlando 4- Oklahoma City 2

lakersfan01
07-17-2010, 09:32 PM
Lakers vs. Celtics. sorry heat and your big 3 drama "queens".

ImNotNotorious
07-17-2010, 09:34 PM
I think you're delusional/hater/dumb if you don't think Heat won't be in the finals...you will see this upcoming season that they will be blowing out every team they face.

RCarlson85
07-17-2010, 09:35 PM
Heat and Lakers

Wade>You
07-17-2010, 09:36 PM
I think you're delusional/hater/dumb if you don't think Heat won't be in the finals...you will see this upcoming season that they will be blowing out every team they face.People don't think clearly when they're mad.

More-Than-Most
07-17-2010, 09:38 PM
Heat vs Thunder... Durant is that good.

He has been talking about the heat and their big 3... its only fitting he would be the one to take them down.

LAKERS4LIFE!!
07-17-2010, 09:45 PM
I think you're delusional/hater/dumb if you don't think Heat won't be in the finals...you will see this upcoming season that they will be blowing out every team they face.

Every team they face does not only consist of the nets and timberwolves.

ChiSox219
07-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Besides the obvious...


Bulls vs Blazers

JordansBulls
07-17-2010, 09:46 PM
I dont know if the blazers can get there with the lakers but its possible i see the bulls being a 3 seed

Blazers or Mavs are probably the only teams out west capable of upsetting LA.

dtmagnet
07-17-2010, 09:46 PM
I have to take the obvious choice of Lakers Heat.

_KB24_
07-17-2010, 09:52 PM
Blazers or Mavs are probably the only teams out west capable of upsetting LA.

The Nuggets and Thunder have just a great shot as the Blazers. We've been hearing the Blazers are up and coming for the past 2-3 years now and they always find a way to get injured somehow.

Kashmir13579
07-17-2010, 09:57 PM
knicks/boston vs suns/thunder

justinnum1
07-17-2010, 10:01 PM
Heat vs. Thunder...Heat in 5

daleja424
07-17-2010, 10:04 PM
heat vs lakers.

tangent12
07-17-2010, 10:05 PM
Bulls and Lakers.

I see the Heat getting beat in the Playoffs this year... maybe the year after they'll make the Finals but i'm not too sure either.

Wade>You
07-17-2010, 10:08 PM
Bulls are a contender in the East? Must be the offseason.

*Superman*
07-17-2010, 10:08 PM
Magic and Lakers.

justinnum1
07-17-2010, 10:09 PM
Bulls and Lakers.

I see the Heat getting beat in the Playoffs this year... maybe the year after they'll make the Finals but i'm not too sure either.

:laugh2:

Floridag8tr
07-17-2010, 10:12 PM
heat beat lakers in 6

Cano4prez
07-17-2010, 10:13 PM
Heat and Thunder

Dillon.Sandhu
07-17-2010, 10:14 PM
I think you're delusional/hater/dumb if you don't think Heat won't be in the finals...you will see this upcoming season that they will be blowing out every team they face.

There All Gonna Flop Just Watch, They All Want The Ball, And Their All Injury Prone With Wades Knees, Bosh's Knees, And James Tendonitis In His Shooting Elbow I Think They Will Make it To The Semi's Then Get Blown Out By Orlando Cause Bosh Cant Cover Dwight Howard or Even id Z Covers Him Howard Is To Strong And Fast.

Cano4prez
07-17-2010, 10:16 PM
There All Gonna Flop Just Watch, They All Want The Ball, And Their All Injury Prone With Wades Knees, Bosh's Knees, And James Tendonitis In His Shooting Elbow I Think They Will Make it To The Semi's Then Get Blown Out By Orlando Cause Bosh Cant Cover Dwight Howard or Even id Z Covers Him Howard Is To Strong And Fast.

:facepalm:

zambo4president
07-17-2010, 10:18 PM
Lakers Vs. Bulls

dimedrpr
07-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Lakers vs Bulls

Lakers in 6

Wade>You
07-17-2010, 10:24 PM
BTW, forgot to put my pred: Heat vs Thunder, Heat in 4.

(Lakers never made the playoffs :D)

evadatam5150
07-17-2010, 10:31 PM
All predictions. I have The Orlando magic vs The La lakers WIth mia heat getting elminated by the magic in the ECF and the OKC thunder losing in the WCF.
WHat are your thoughts???

Celtics Vs Lakers since it's already happened this year.. Lakers won by the way in case you're curious.. :clap:

Next year when the Finals are played I think the Celtics or Heat will come out of the East and the Lakers from the West, and that's only because no other teams have done much out West to make themselves better.. Had any team made themselves marginally better I think next season would have been a best bet to dethrone the Lakers as they haven't done anything to make themselves better.. Adding Blake does nothing to help the Lakers in my opinion and I think they should have waited before blowing their wad of cash on him..

sasuke_20
07-17-2010, 10:33 PM
HMM,,Let see,, maybe..

LAkers vs celtics

LAkers vs magic

Lakers vs Heat..

sasuke_20
07-17-2010, 10:33 PM
HMM,,Let see,, maybe..

LAkers vs celtics

LAkers vs magic

Lakers vs Heat..

opps sorry double post,,

20GoodTimes20
07-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Celtics Vs Lakers since it's already happened this year.. Lakers won by the way in case you're curious.. :clap:

Next year when the Finals are played I think the Celtics or Heat will come out of the East and the Lakers from the West, and that's only because no other teams have done much out West to make themselves better.. Had any team made themselves marginally better I think next season would have been a best bet to dethrone the Lakers as they haven't done anything to make themselves better.. Adding Blake does nothing to help the Lakers in my opinion and I think they should have waited before blowing their wad of cash on him..

Blake is a better defender than Farmar.

Rockets will make a trade at deadline, becoming that team.

Nirvanaskurdt
07-17-2010, 10:58 PM
Suns vs Magic :cool:

LAKERS4LIFE!!
07-17-2010, 10:58 PM
Celtics Vs Lakers since it's already happened this year.. Lakers won by the way in case you're curious.. :clap:

Next year when the Finals are played I think the Celtics or Heat will come out of the East and the Lakers from the West, and that's only because no other teams have done much out West to make themselves better.. Had any team made themselves marginally better I think next season would have been a best bet to dethrone the Lakers as they haven't done anything to make themselves better.. Adding Blake does nothing to help the Lakers in my opinion and I think they should have waited before blowing their wad of cash on him..

Blake is a much better player than Jordan F. and people will soon see that and the Lakers don't need to do anything, they're defending champs, OTHER teams are the ones that should be doing moves but like you said they're NOT.

Ticket Guy
07-17-2010, 11:01 PM
2011 NBA Finals Orlando Magic 4 Oklahoma City Thunder 2
2012 NBA Finals Los Angeles Lakers 4 Miami Heat 2
2013 NBA Finals Oklahoma City Thunder 4 Chicago Bulls 3
2014 NBA Finals Chicago Bulls 4 Los Angeles Lakers 1
2015 NBA Finals Portland Trail Blazers 4 New York Knicks 3
2016 NBA Finals Los Angeles Lakers 4 Brooklyn Knights 2
2017 NBA Finals New York Knicks 4 Los Angeles Lakers 2
2018 NBA Finals Oklahoma City Thunder 4 Charlotte Flight 2
2019 NBA Finals Los Angeles Lakers 4 Chicago Bulls 2
2020 NBA Finals Boston Celtics 4 Los Angeles Lakers 3
2021 NBA Finals Oklahoma City Thunder 4 New York Knicks 0
2022 NBA Finals Chicago Bulls 4 Seattle Kings 3



:):)

Baseballcb95
07-17-2010, 11:07 PM
this is totally as non-homeric as i can make it, but why is everyone/anyone saying the Magic? The heat beat them twice last year with a starting lineup of Chalmers/Wade/Qrich/Beasley/O'neal (ouch). The big 3 can essentially neutrolize their best player (dwight) at least 4 out of 7 games by getting him into early foul trouble, btw he only averaged 12 ppg against the heat last year. Pietrus and Lewis arent capable of taking over and winning games (NOT saying they arent good) jameer nelson is awesome but not elite, carter is good but on his way down.. thoughts? i think people are overrating the orlando magic though i believe they are a lock for a 1 or 2 seed.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-17-2010, 11:10 PM
Lakers in 7 over the Heat... Btw my mind is liable to change at any second on that.

BKLYNNYRNYKNYY
07-17-2010, 11:19 PM
prob magic v lakers . magic in 7

what i really want its celtics v lakers.. final year of doc rivers v final year of jackson

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 11:34 PM
Blazers or Mavs are probably the only teams out west capable of upsetting LA.

Yeah true But i think With a healthy Yao Ming the rockets can compete IM:)O

defender4m
07-17-2010, 11:35 PM
lakers/heat... lakeshow rolls on with a 4-2 series win

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 11:38 PM
Heat fans its not A sure thing to make the finals Like some of you are saying and defender 4m love the sig twill could have a breakout year this year :D

evadatam5150
07-17-2010, 11:40 PM
Blake is a better defender than Farmar.

Rockets will make a trade at deadline, becoming that team.

Yeah but I think we can both agree that it's a minor improvement at best and Blake still needs to learn the triangle.. Big learning curve for anyone.. Again, it may be an improvement but it's marginal at best..

x23cbru24x
07-17-2010, 11:41 PM
umm...its really obvious....heat/lakers and i cant wait to see that series

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 11:42 PM
umm...its really obvious....heat/lakers and i cant wait to see that series

Yep without a doubt thats ganna happen, good shot it will happen but itz not a sure thing

defender4m
07-17-2010, 11:44 PM
umm...its really obvious....heat/lakers and i cant wait to see that series

if it does happen it will be one of the great series' in nba history

x23cbru24x
07-17-2010, 11:45 PM
Yep without a doubt thats ganna happen, good shot it will happen but itz not a sure thing

its as close as u can get with any sport to guess the finals...unless the rockets pull somethin out or a team from the east plays really good this is gonna happen i hope it goes to 7...watch those ***** *** heat lose..cant wait to watch those faces

PC
07-17-2010, 11:46 PM
Lakers and Heat and I think LA takes it in 6 or 7

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 11:47 PM
its as close as u can get with any sport to guess the finals...unless the rockets pull somethin out or a team from the east plays really good this is gonna happen i hope it goes to 7...watch those ***** *** heat lose..cant wait to watch those faces

It would be great but injures happen and OKc is the big threat to LA And Miami has a lot of threats. Itz not a sure thing it would be an entertaing series. IF bynym is healthy Thelakers will still have the edge

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 11:47 PM
Lakers and Heat and I think LA takes it in 6 or 7

NO NYK lakers??? :)

defender4m
07-17-2010, 11:47 PM
its as close as u can get with any sport to guess the finals...unless the rockets pull somethin out or a team from the east plays really good this is gonna happen i hope it goes to 7...watch those ***** *** heat lose..cant wait to watch those faces

You will see kobe with his dinosaur face all day:D

ANKUSH
07-17-2010, 11:50 PM
I'm a Laker fan, so with a grain of salt...

I think it's Celtics/Lakers again for 2011. Championship teams pride themselves on tough defense and inside-out offense. The only teams that are capable of doing that are the Lakers and Celtics (at least on a consistent basis). As far as the Heat are concerned...man that's a tough team. Wade and Lebron on the same team is going to be interesting....but along with what I just mentioned, whoever best works the intangibles (ie bench scoring, better rebounding, and hustle) are usually the winners.

xxplayerxx23
07-17-2010, 11:54 PM
I'm a Laker fan, so with a grain of salt...

I think it's Celtics/Lakers again for 2011. Championship teams pride themselves on tough defense and inside-out offense. The only teams that are capable of doing that are the Lakers and Celtics (at least on a consistent basis). As far as the Heat are concerned...man that's a tough team. Wade and Lebron on the same team is going to be interesting....but along with what I just mentioned, whoever best works the intangibles (ie bench scoring, better rebounding, and hustle) are usually the winners.

I think size beats miami. I think if perkins is healthy and garnet is healthy they can def win the series against miami plus having rondo helps lol

coloute
07-17-2010, 11:56 PM
umm...its really obvious....heat/lakers and i cant wait to see that series

I don't think it is that obvious. Neither the Heat or the Lakers are going to have a great bench, and though they certainly have talent there are many teams that could battle against each of these squads in both conferences (East: Bulls, Magic, Celtics; West: Blazers, Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Mavs).

Will be a more competitive season/playoffs than people are expecting.

x23cbru24x
07-18-2010, 12:00 AM
I don't think it is that obvious. Neither the Heat or the Lakers are going to have a great bench, and though they certainly have talent there are many teams that could battle against each of these squads in both conferences (East: Bulls, Magic, Celtics; West: Blazers, Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Mavs).

Will be a more competitive season/playoffs than people are expecting.

ur right but the heat r heavy favorites cause thje cavs went to the 2nd rounf or semis every year with just him and now he has bosh and wade top tier players so theyre rediculous and lakers will come bk for phils last yr theyll be fine as long as bynum is healthy and kobe is there

oOo Rhino oOo
07-18-2010, 12:02 AM
Okc vs Lakers - Heat vs Bucks

oOo Rhino oOo
07-18-2010, 12:04 AM
But anything is possible

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 12:04 AM
Okc vs Lakers - Heat vs Bucks

sorry to say i dont see the bucks getting to the ECF:(

coloute
07-18-2010, 12:09 AM
Seedings for the playoffs?

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 12:11 AM
Seedings for the playoffs?

Just wanted to know who people think are going to be n the finals this year :D

oOo Rhino oOo
07-18-2010, 12:12 AM
It's my opinion, they were good until they hit injury, Larry Sanders is a stud

Baller1
07-18-2010, 12:14 AM
Thunder sweep the Heat.



**** off, I'm not a homer.

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 12:15 AM
It's my opinion, they were good until they hit injury, Larry Sanders is a stud

Ok your allowed to have an opinion but so am I. IMO Bucks will barley get into the playoffs. Micheal redd Isnt back till feb. Idk if Salmons is going back. Bougot lets see how he comes back. Big question marks for that team IMO

69centers
07-18-2010, 12:15 AM
I think you're delusional/hater/dumb if you don't think Heat won't be in the finals...you will see this upcoming season that they will be blowing out every team they face.

Yup, especially when they face teams with size and they put Big Z and Joel Anthony out there. Like they won't get destroyed down low, but they'll still blow everyone out, huh. :pity:

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 12:16 AM
Thunder sweep the Heat.



**** off, I'm not a homer.

LMao :clap:

I would love that. Theres no way you could be a homer:cool:

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 12:18 AM
Yup, especially when they face teams with size and they put Big Z and Joel Anthony out there. Like they won't get destroyed down low, but they'll still blow everyone out, huh. :pity:

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

fins08
07-18-2010, 12:28 AM
Teh heat are garbge tehy onlee has that Lebron n wade guy. Noh way dey winn

defender4m
07-18-2010, 12:32 AM
Teh heat are garbge tehy onlee has that Lebron n wade guy. Noh way dey winn

and u live in fla

coloute
07-18-2010, 12:35 AM
Teh heat are garbge tehy onlee has that Lebron n wade guy. Noh way dey winn

The Bosh is not a great player, decent, but not even in the top 10 of his position. Wade and James are obviously studs, but those two cannot carry them through both the season and playoffs.

I think the Bulls vs. any number of teams in the West (LA, OKC, POR, UTA, HOU, DEN).

Baseballcb95
07-18-2010, 12:40 AM
The Bosh is not a great player, decent, but not even in the top 10 of his position. Wade and James are obviously studs, but those two cannot carry them through both the season and playoffs.

I think the Bulls vs. any number of teams in the West (LA, OKC, POR, UTA, HOU, DEN).

:speechless: first of all, bosh isnt an object, he is a person and his first name is chris, second of all, i dare you to name 3 better PF's, let alone 5

Wade>You
07-18-2010, 12:44 AM
:speechless: first of all, bosh isnt an object, he is a person and his first name is chris, second of all, i dare you to name 3 better PF's, let alone 5LMAO.

He's not aware that "The Bosh" was the only player averaging 24/11 last season. Not Dirk, not Gasol, not Howard, etc. Just "The Bosh."

Baseballcb95
07-18-2010, 12:56 AM
LMAO.

He's not aware that "The Bosh" was the only player averaging 24/11 last season. Not Dirk, not Gasol, not Howard, etc. Just "The Bosh."

lol ignorance at its finest, he is top 3 for sure with gasol and dirk, but yeah i mean 24/11 is just decent :rolleyes:

coloute
07-18-2010, 01:07 AM
:speechless: first of all, bosh isnt an object, he is a person and his first name is chris, second of all, i dare you to name 3 better PF's, let alone 5

Thanks coach. I appreciate the human/object clarification, I was a bit lost there. Let me give you a hand....:clap:

As far as better PFs:

Stoudemire
Nowitski
Gasol
Duncan
Garnett
Aldridge
Brand
Green

Shall I keep going? Bosh hasn't ever played in a big game in his life, well as the focal point of the offense at least. He is a decent role player, and will look better simply because Wade and James will have the opponent's entire team covering them, but he is definitely NOT top 5. Accumulating points/rebounds on a team that is down by 15 points the entire game (Raptors) doesn't make someone a star.

Public Enemy #1
07-18-2010, 01:22 AM
Heat/Lakers. Heat in 6.

J_M_B
07-18-2010, 01:34 AM
Out West..

1.Lakers
2.Mavericks
3.Thunder
4.Blazers
5.Nuggets
6.Jazz
7.Rockets
8.Spurs

East..

1.Magic
2.Heat
3.Celtics
4.Bulls
5.Hawks
6.Bucks
7.Bobcats
8.Knicks

Conference Finals:

Heat over Magic

Lakers over Thunder

Finals:

Lakers over Heat

J_M_B
07-18-2010, 01:41 AM
Thanks coach. I appreciate the human/object clarification, I was a bit lost there. Let me give you a hand....:clap:

As far as better PFs:

Stoudemire
Nowitski
Gasol
Duncan
Garnett
Aldridge
Brand
Green

Shall I keep going? Bosh hasn't ever played in a big game in his life, well as the focal point of the offense at least. He is a decent role player, and will look better simply because Wade and James will have the opponent's entire team covering them, but he is definitely NOT top 5. Accumulating points/rebounds on a team that is down by 15 points the entire game (Raptors) doesn't make someone a star.

Oh God..

:facepalm:

Decent role player? I don't think decent role players make All-NBA teams and All-Star teams.. Just my guess though

But continue.. I want to know more, since you know so much :)

Giants-49ers-Ws
07-18-2010, 01:46 AM
lakers-magic

NetsPaint
07-18-2010, 01:49 AM
Clippers/Raptors

SunsBearsfan
07-18-2010, 01:56 AM
LA vs Boston yet again??? haha f.u.c.k. the NBA and f.u.c.k. david piece of **** stern

d-baller23
07-18-2010, 01:58 AM
Magic over Lakers in 7...
We're gonna do the Lakers revenge. Like they did with Boston.

Tony_Starks
07-18-2010, 02:04 AM
I agree, Lakers and Magic. Honestly can't say who would win its really a toss up depending on what moves Orlando makes from now until then.

I don't really see Miami beating Orlando with the valuable playoff experience Dwight got the last couple years. I think he's ready to take it to another level in the playoffs. I could imagine this a being more of the foundation year for the Heat and then maybe running off a couple of titles over the next 2-3 years....

d-baller23
07-18-2010, 02:14 AM
I agree, Lakers and Magic. Honestly can't say who would win its really a toss up depending on what moves Orlando makes from now until then.

I don't really see Miami beating Orlando with the valuable playoff experience Dwight got the last couple years. I think he's ready to take it to another level in the playoffs. I could imagine this a being more of the foundation year for the Heat and then maybe running off a couple of titles over the next 2-3 years....

I agree, Miami will rule in two years, they'll have chemistry problems, just like the Magic had last year... We brought in five new players, and this year we're bringin in five, and three won't be a factor on this team just yet.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 02:19 AM
I'm not sure why all the Heat fans think their team is so unstoppable now. The Bulls are still a better overall team than the Heat. I'm going to say the Bulls vs the Thunder. The thunder have a great roster. Westbrook and Durant are awesome. Then you add Collison, Jeff Green, Sefolosha, Daequan Cook, James Harden, and they're a force to reckon with. These are 2 of the youngest teams in the NBA and it would be a great fast-paced series.

HowBoutDemBulls
07-18-2010, 02:21 AM
Magic vs. Lakers

Ariza's Better
07-18-2010, 02:22 AM
rockets v.s heat

martin hits the game winner in game 7 right in lebron's face.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 02:31 AM
Oh God..

:facepalm:

Decent role player? I don't think decent role players make All-NBA teams and All-Star teams.. Just my guess though

But continue.. I want to know more, since you know so much :)

Taj Gibson is a role player and made the NBA all rookie first team last year. I agree that Bosh is overrated. Yeah he's a good PF that I'd like to have on the Bulls, but when push comes to shove, he HAD to score on the Raptors cause they didn't have anyone else on their team. I Guarantee Bosh doesn't get 24/11 this year. He MIGHT get 11 rpg, but with all the other scorers on the team in Wade and LeBron, he'd be lucky to get 20 ppg. And Boozer was left out of the conversation about PF's better than Bosh.

Boozer(2009-2010)--19.5 ppg, 0.5 bpg, 1.1 spg, 3.2 apg, 11.2 rpg, 74 FT%, 56 FG% in only 34.3 mpg.

Bosh(2009-2010)--24 ppg, 1 bpg, .6 spg, 2.4 apg, 10.8 rpg, 80 FT%, 52 FG% in 36.1 mpg.

In summary......there are MANY PF's better than Bosh in the NBA. Boozer is one of them and is much cheaper. Boozer is 2" shorter than Bosh so he obviously doesn't block as many shots, but has just about the same ppg, more rpg, more apg, more spg, more FG% in LESS mpg. So for value, I'd say the Bulls won that battle.
******Boozer is better than Bosh in 4 of 7 categories. FG%, SPG, APG, RPG. ...........BOSH is only better at ppg (probably not anymore), bpg (he's taller), FT%..........hmm. I'd take Boozer for the $3+ million saved.******

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 02:33 AM
Lakers vs Celtics

I'm having a tough time counting out the Thunder or the Bulls though.

I don't think the Heat will make it the first year together. I'm not saying they won't get their someday but the Heat have to PROVE themselves & have to develope their style of play & gel together first, plus they need more then an ageing Big Z for center. Alot of teams are going to have a field day with him.Who's the PG in Miami again?
If Championships are won just by one offseason then why play the games. Lets just ship the the trophy down to Miami right now. Not all but seems like most the fans already have this one in the bag. I'm not a hater ethier. I Love Pat Riley & Love what he has done with that franchise. I got love for Wade,Bosh & LBJ as well but lets not jump the gun so quickly. (If your boys do beat the Celts in the playoffs you can thank them because their big 3 started this trend. & I do believe you will see Paul & Melo go to NY.

Blazers Rockets also have to prove they can stay healthy. Lets see Yao make it through a full season. For the Blazers it's not just Oden having a tough time staying healthy it's also ROY.

Orlando Magic will NEVER win as long as Vince Carter is on the team.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 02:35 AM
Another reason that Boozer will give Bosh fits is that he's physical and can shove Bosh around. Bosh will start crying to the refs as usual and get off his game.

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 02:38 AM
LMAO.

He's not aware that "The Bosh" was the only player averaging 24/11 last season. Not Dirk, not Gasol, not Howard, etc. Just "The Bosh."

Did "Chris" Bosh play alongside Kobe,Bynum & Odom last year?:no:
Nuff said funny boy.

Wade>You
07-18-2010, 02:38 AM
Did "Chris" Bosh play alongside Kobe,Bynum & Odom last year?:no:
Nuff said funny boy.Your argument doesn't help your case. Gasol was worse with the Grizzlies, and improved under those same players you just mentioned.




I think LBJ/Bosh/Wade have shown their chemistry together.



Wade pass to LeBron dunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYpajWCFbE&feature=related

Wade alleyoop to LeBron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GIAEGycKXg&NR=1

LeBron Block, then makes half court pass to Wade for the slam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHR6Q8VKyw

Wade to James another alleyoop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mWgx_Ipdbw

Chris Bosh vs Greece Highlights (scattered throughout)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZS7zvJwmvs

Team USA vs China (scattered throughout, start from 2:20 mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJI2x7HhmvE

Wade 2010 All-Star MVP highlights (scattered throughout)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNrSb6u14NI&feature=relatedWe all know they're willing passers and want to win. I think the doubt is more from people who feel insecure about their team's chances to win...:O

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 02:46 AM
Here's why I like the Bulls as the Eastern Conference champs:

PG Derrick Rose
SG Ronnie Brewer (great defender and finisher)
SF Luol Deng (Had 17+ ppg and almost 8 rpg last year and people overlook him)
PF Carlos Boozer (Had 19.5 ppg and 11.2 rpg last year)
C Joakim Noah (one of the best rebounders in the NBA--averaged a double-double)

BENCH (where Miami is lacking)

Kyle Korver (lead the NBA in 3P% last year at 53.6%. People say it's cause he didn't shoot many, but that's exactly why it's given as a %. It is the average that he makes no matter how many he shoots)

Taj Gibson (started at PF as a rookie. avg 9 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.3 bpg, 49 FG% in 27 mpg)

James Johnson (drafted higher than Gibson. SF/PF ability. very athletic)

Omer Asik ( compared to Joakim Noah. Very talented C who has gotten better in the Euro league)

*****backup PG could be Acie Law or Lucas III from the summer league. Then all they need is a couple minimum contracts and they're set. A rotation of 7-8 players is all that is usually used and they have a good 7-8 players.

Avenged
07-18-2010, 02:50 AM
I have the Lakers vs. Heat.

But I wouldn't be surprised to see a team like the Thunder or the Mavs make the finals this season against either Heat/Bulls.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 02:51 AM
Your argument doesn't help your case. Gasol was worse with the Grizzlies, and improved under those same players you just mentioned.




I think LBJ/Bosh/Wade have shown their chemistry together.

We all know they're willing passers and want to win. I think the doubt is more from people who feel insecure about their team's chances to win...:O

Who's the Starting PG in Miami again? Chalmers? Wow. the most important position is a bench player starting. Then you have 3 egos playing together and they all want to go down as the best ever to play the game. Not going to happen. LBJ and Wade will both want the ball at the end of the game and Bosh won't be happy cause teams will put their 2 best defenders on James and Wade while Bosh is dueling with a couple bigs underneath. Bosh won't get many chances cause the Heat have no one to spread the floor. Mike Miller is DECENT, but I'm not fearing him shooting 3's all day long. He's no better at 3's than Luol Deng by the way, yet Deng can also drive the ball and averages many more ppg than Miller.

Wade>You
07-18-2010, 02:53 AM
BENCH (where Miami is lacking)Miami doesn't care about your bench or your starting 5. We've got 3 HOFers in their prime and 2 solid role players. Ante up, kiddo.

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 02:55 AM
Your argument doesn't help your case. Gasol was worse with the Grizzlies, and improved under those same players you just mentioned.




I think LBJ/Bosh/Wade have shown their chemistry together. We all know they're willing passers and want to win. I think the doubt is more from people who feel insecure about their team's chances to win...:O

Your talking Pau who is #1 in Pts,Reb,Blocks & FG % in the Grizz short history? Sorry he only avg 18ppg playing alongside Kobe,Bynum,Odom,Artest. He still avg 11.3rebs a game playing along side Bynum & Odom. As for the points he didn't really get into midseason form until down the stretch he did miss the first part of the season.
Pau has consistantly avg a field goal percentage over 50% Bosh has only done it once plus Pau is more durable. Proven, you can't say that about Bosh just yet. He's injury prone.

I feel I love the Lakers chances same core,battle tested together.
Back2Back. Besides Phil wins them in 3's. :cool:

Wade>You
07-18-2010, 03:00 AM
Your talking Pau who is #1 in Pts,Reb,Blocks & FG % in the Grizz short history? Sorry he only avg 18ppg playing alongside Kobe,Bynum,Odom,Artest. He still avg 11.3rebs a game playing along side Bynum & Odom. As for the points he didn't really get into midseason form until down the stretch he did miss the first part of the season.
Pau has consistantly avg a field goal percentage over 50% Bosh has only done it once plus Pau is more durable. Proven, you can't say that about Bosh just yet. He's injury prone.

I feel I love the Lakers chances same core,battle tested together.
Back2Back. Besides Phil wins them in 3's. :cool:Whatever, just know that Wade and Tito Jacksons beat the Lakers once this season and should have beat them twice if not for some errors on the Heat's end and a cag shot by Kobe. Just imagine what Wade and LBJ/Bosh will do to your team this season. These games aren't even going to be close. They'll be over by the 1st quarter.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:09 AM
Whatever, just know that Wade and Tito Jacksons beat the Lakers once this season and should have beat them twice if not for some errors on the Heat's end and a cag shot by Kobe. Just imagine what Wade and LBJ/Bosh will do to your team this season. These games aren't even going to be close. They'll be over by the 1st quarter.

You are forgetting that Miami had Quentin Richardson, Jermaine O'Neal, Carlos Arroyo, Michael Beasley, etc.... last year. Now they aren't nearly as deep as last year. 3 players don't make a team.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:15 AM
Miami doesn't care about your bench or your starting 5. We've got 3 HOFers in their prime and 2 solid role players. Ante up, kiddo.

3 HOF's in their prime........probably. 2 for sure. But you are forgetting, again, that it takes more than 3 players to win consistantly. I've heard people predict the Heat winning 69 games this year. That's absurd. That is like comparing them to the Bulls' dynasty. Pippen was far better than Bosh defensively and pretty darn good offensively. Jordan was WAY better than anyone on the Heat. Rodman was a stud. Steve Kerr was knocking down 3's consistantly. Ron Harper was a better than Average player. Kucoc......solid. Need I go on? I see about 55 games won this year for the Heat at best. And like I keep saying. You Heat fans are over-hyping the whole Wade, LBJ, Bosh on the same team. You need a starting PG and a starting C (that's not slow and 37 years old). Those are 2 of the most important positions.

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 03:17 AM
:laugh:
Whatever, just know that Wade and Tito Jacksons beat the Lakers once this season and should have beat them twice if not for some errors on the Heat's end and a cag shot by Kobe. Just imagine what Wade and LBJ/Bosh will do to your team this season. These games aren't even going to be close. They'll be over by the 1st quarter.

:laugh::laugh:Over in the first quarter?:laugh::laugh:
The Lakers didn't make any errors in both meetings? Artest never really figured out the triangle last year. You can't go back to what happened last year welcome to the new season.
I can't wait to see them face each other this year. If they meet in the Finals it will be epic.
Just saying Bosh has alot to prove before you can put him in the same category as Pau.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:19 AM
3 HOF's in their prime........probably. 2 for sure. But you are forgetting, again, that it takes more than 3 players to win consistantly. I've heard people predict the Heat winning 69 games this year. That's absurd. That is like comparing them to the Bulls' dynasty. Pippen was far better than Bosh defensively and pretty darn good offensively. Jordan was WAY better than anyone on the Heat. Rodman was a stud. Steve Kerr was knocking down 3's consistantly. Ron Harper was a better than Average player. Kucoc......solid. Need I go on? I see about 55 games won this year for the Heat at best. And like I keep saying. You Heat fans are over-hyping the whole Wade, LBJ, Bosh on the same team. You need a starting PG and a starting C (that's not slow and 37 years old). Those are 2 of the most important positions.

You're comparing Pippen to Bosh why???


And I truly don't think this trio can get overhyped when you look at how big of a deal the Celtics big 3 was. This is a way bigger deal... And is that fact, that you can't have a slow pg or a 37 year old center? Even if it was proven by the past that you CAN'T have either of those and win, never has there been a 3 like this, so it's simply impossible to say. We are jsut going to have to see, this speculation means less than nothing.

Wade>You
07-18-2010, 03:21 AM
You are forgetting that Miami had Quentin Richardson, Jermaine O'Neal, Carlos Arroyo, Michael Beasley, etc.... last year. Now they aren't nearly as deep as last year. 3 players don't make a team.The Heat have won their series vs the Bulls the past two years at which time A LOT of these guys were playing together: Rose/Noah/Deng/Gordon/Hinrich/Tyrus/Nocioni/Tim Thomas/Thabo/Miller/Salmons/Taj Gibson/Hakim Warrick/Flip Murray/Lindsey Hunter

That just proves to me how overrated your perception of bench depth and overall starting 5 is. Those Bulls players are/were held in high regards around the average NBA fan, and yet, Wade+Tito Jacksons were better each time.

Give me talent before you give me this "depth/bench/starting 5" which Wade+Titos were able to beat and finish with a better record for the past two seasons.

BTW, if you want to see our so called "Lack of depth/bench," here's a picture.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/image.php?u=57532&type=sigpic&dateline=1279341645

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 03:23 AM
You're comparing Pippen to Bosh why???


And I truly don't think this trio can get overhyped when you look at how big of a deal the Celtics big 3 was. This is a way bigger deal... And is that fact, that you can't have a slow pg or a 37 year old center? Even if it was proven by the past that you CAN'T have either of those and win, never has there been a 3 like this, so it's simply impossible to say. We are jsut going to have to see, this speculation means less than nothing.

Agree 100 %

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:25 AM
You're comparing Pippen to Bosh why???


And I truly don't think this trio can get overhyped when you look at how big of a deal the Celtics big 3 was. This is a way bigger deal... And is that fact, that you can't have a slow pg or a 37 year old center? Even if it was proven by the past that you CAN'T have either of those and win, never has there been a 3 like this, so it's simply impossible to say. We are jsut going to have to see, this speculation means less than nothing.

I'm comparing Pippen to Bosh because they are 2 of the best players on their resptective teams.........DUH........The Celtics big 3 were all proven players that joined a proven franchise. Miami is far from a proven franchise. And common sense tells you that when you have 3 players that want to run the court (LBJ, Wade, Bosh), you probably don't want a slow, old C that can't keep up with them. Or what good is he? And I never said anything about having a slow PG. You need any PG. Chalmers isn't a starter. I'm guaranteeing right now that the Heat will win 55 games at best and be knocked out of the playoffs by the second round. Unless of course the "big 3" play 48 mpg. What good is it to get a big lead (although that won't happen like you fans think it will) when the lead will evaporate when the starters sit down to rest. This isn't a dynasty and to tell you the truth, I'd be surprised to see the Heat even win 1 Championship in the next 6 years.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:28 AM
I'm comparing Pippen to Bosh because they are 2 of the best players on their resptective teams.........DUH........The Celtics big 3 were all proven players that joined a proven franchise. Miami is far from a proven franchise. And common sense tells you that when you have 3 players that want to run the court (LBJ, Wade, Bosh), you probably don't want a slow, old C that can't keep up with them. Or what good is he? And I never said anything about having a slow PG. You need any PG. Chalmers isn't a starter. I'm guaranteeing right now that the Heat will win 55 games at best and be knocked out of the playoffs by the second round. Unless of course the "big 3" play 48 mpg. What good is it to get a big lead (although that won't happen like you fans think it will) when the lead will evaporate when the starters sit down to rest. This isn't a dynasty and to tell you the truth, I'd be surprised to see the Heat even win 1 Championship in the next 6 years.

No, no, no... Pippen was BY FAR the 2nd best player on those Bulls teams... Bosh is BY FAR the third best, no argument about it...


And I see you being very wrong on that last sentence...

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 03:29 AM
You're comparing Pippen to Bosh why???


And I truly don't think this trio can get overhyped when you look at how big of a deal the Celtics big 3 was. This is a way bigger deal... And is that fact, that you can't have a slow pg or a 37 year old center? Even if it was proven by the past that you CAN'T have either of those and win, never has there been a 3 like this, so it's simply impossible to say. We are jsut going to have to see, this speculation means less than nothing.

Actually let me tone that down to 55% Because The Celts did have the perfect blend with theres. Ray the sniper, Pierce the slasher, KG the defense anchor plus the energy guy. Can't put Bosh in the same boat with KG. KG was a physical force. Wade & Bron are the same style player.
We will have to wait & see. It's going to be a fun year

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:32 AM
The Heat have won their series vs the Bulls the past two years at which time A LOT of these guys were playing together: Rose/Noah/Deng/Gordon/Hinrich/Tyrus/Nocioni/Tim Thomas/Thabo/Miller/Salmons/Taj Gibson/Hakim Warrick/Flip Murray/Lindsey Hunter

That just proves to me how overrated your perception of bench depth and overall starting 5 is. Those Bulls players are/were held in high regards around the average NBA fan, and yet, Wade+Tito Jacksons were better each time.

Give me talent before you give me this "depth/bench/starting 5" which Wade+Titos were able to beat and finish with a better record for the past two seasons.

BTW, if you want to see our so called "Lack of depth/bench," here's a picture.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/image.php?u=57532&type=sigpic&dateline=1279341645

Why are you talking about primarily starters when you are talking about bench depth? I noticed you like to talk about the past, which is what is really pointless. Are those teams still coached by Del Negro/Scott Skiles and are they still playing together? Did those teams have Boozer and Korver? Did those teams play defense like Thibbidaeu's teams do? Was Rose in his prime the last couple years (I bet he averages 22+ ppg and 8+ apg this year)? Was Noah a stud like he is now? Did Deng have someone inside to open him up for the outside shots (Boozer)? No to all of those questions. Use your head if you are going to make comparisons.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:33 AM
Actually let me tone that down to 55% Because The Celts did have the perfect blend with theres. Ray the sniper, Pierce the slasher, KG the defense anchor plus the energy guy. Can't put Bosh in the same boat with KG. KG was a physical force. Wade & Bron are the same style player.
We will have to wait & see. It's going to be a fun year

Definitely agree with you there, I'm from Dallas and love our hometown products like Bosh and D-Will but I would never say that Bosh is KG level by any stretch... Damn I can't wait either though.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:34 AM
Nice picture. Although I only see 3 solid players, a couple old guys, some decent defenders and............. that's about it.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:35 AM
No, no, no... Pippen was BY FAR the 2nd best player on those Bulls teams... Bosh is BY FAR the third best, no argument about it...


And I see you being very wrong on that last sentence...

How can I be "very wrong" on my opinion in the last sentence? Have you got a crystal ball?

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:37 AM
How can I be "very wrong" on my opinion in the last sentence? Have you got a crystal ball?

Look at my quote, it was my opinion that yours was wrong.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:42 AM
No, no, no... Pippen was BY FAR the 2nd best player on those Bulls teams... Bosh is BY FAR the third best, no argument about it...


And I see you being very wrong on that last sentence...

And why did you have to post about something I already said. It's not like I didn't know that Pippen was the 2nd best and Bosh was the third best. Also to the guy that says depth doesn't matter..........look at the best team ever.......the 95-96 Chicago Bulls. Everyone on that team averaged at least 7 mpg and there was 15 on the active roster back then.

dabears2010
07-18-2010, 03:43 AM
Player Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Michael Jordan 32 82 82 37.7 11.2 22.6 .495 1.4 3.2 .427 6.7 8.0 .834 1.8 4.8 6.6 4.3 2.2 0.5 2.4 2.4 30.4
2 Scottie Pippen 30 77 77 36.7 7.3 15.8 .463 1.9 5.2 .374 2.9 4.2 .679 2.0 4.5 6.4 5.9 1.7 0.7 2.7 2.6 19.4
3 Toni Kukoc 27 81 20 26.0 4.8 9.7 .490 1.1 2.7 .403 2.5 3.3 .772 1.4 2.6 4.0 3.5 0.8 0.3 1.4 1.9 13.1
4 Luc Longley 27 62 62 26.5 3.9 8.1 .482 0.0 0.0 1.3 1.7 .777 1.7 3.5 5.1 1.9 0.4 1.4 1.8 3.6 9.1
5 Steve Kerr 30 82 0 23.4 3.0 5.9 .506 1.5 2.9 .515 1.0 1.0 .929 0.3 1.0 1.3 2.3 0.8 0.0 0.5 1.3 8.4
6 Ron Harper 32 80 80 23.6 2.9 6.3 .467 0.4 1.3 .269 1.2 1.7 .705 0.9 1.7 2.7 2.6 1.3 0.4 0.9 1.7 7.4
7 Dennis Rodman 34 64 57 32.6 2.3 4.8 .480 0.0 0.4 .111 0.9 1.7 .528 5.6 9.3 14.9 2.5 0.6 0.4 2.2 3.1 5.5
8 Bill Wennington 32 71 20 15.0 2.4 4.8 .493 0.0 0.0 1.000 0.5 0.6 .860 0.8 1.6 2.5 0.6 0.3 0.2 0.5 2.4 5.3
9 Jack Haley 32 1 0 7.0 2.0 6.0 .333 0.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 .500 1.0 1.0 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 5.0
10 Jud Buechler 27 74 0 10.0 1.5 3.3 .463 0.5 1.2 .444 0.2 0.3 .636 0.6 0.9 1.5 0.8 0.5 0.1 0.5 0.9 3.8
11 Dickey Simpkins 23 60 12 11.4 1.3 2.7 .481 0.0 0.0 1.000 1.0 1.6 .629 1.1 1.5 2.6 0.6 0.2 0.1 0.9 1.3 3.6
12 James Edwards 40 28 0 9.8 1.5 3.9 .373 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.9 .615 0.5 0.9 1.4 0.4 0.0 0.3 0.8 2.2 3.5
13 Jason Caffey 22 57 0 9.6 1.2 2.8 .438 0.0 0.0 .000 0.7 1.2 .588 0.9 1.1 1.9 0.4 0.2 0.1 0.8 1.6 3.2
14 Randy Brown 27 68 0 9.9 1.1 2.8 .406 0.0 0.2 .091 0.4 0.7 .609 0.3 0.7 1.0 1.1 0.8 0.2 0.5 1.3 2.7
15 John Salley 31 17 0 11.2 0.7 2.1 .343 0.0 0.0 0.7 1.2 .600 1.2 1.4 2.5 0.9 0.5 0.9 0.9 2.2 2.1


apples and oranges when comparing this team to the 2010 Heat team.

ElMarroAfamado
07-18-2010, 03:47 AM
the lakers and someone else (not the HEAT)

GoldenArmor24
07-18-2010, 03:52 AM
Definitely agree with you there, I'm from Dallas and love our hometown products like Bosh and D-Will but I would never say that Bosh is KG level by any stretch... Damn I can't wait either though.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't take Lebron,Wade & Bosh on my team ethier. I just kinda think you can't over hype ethier big 3 between the 2. If you had KG,Pierce,Allen start in there primes like Miami's it's virturally a wash, imo.

soonabooma
07-18-2010, 02:05 PM
my opinion is two-sided...i would LOVE to see the bulls vs the thunder but its prolly gonna be the magic vs the lakers

I agree, I'm hoping that OKC/Chi-town becomes the new big cross conference rivalry becuz both are very good up and coming teams with ridiculous talent, and both should continue to improve to the point of competing for big things. But I definitely see the Lakers in the finals, vs. either Orlando or Boston. It's still too soon to write the Celtics off, becuz they're strong in mind, and they're still good enough to get back to the finals if they really work. They're the kind of team that you just know when guys like KG tell themselves "we're getting back to the finals damn it!", then you know they will do everything in their power to do it.

coloute
07-18-2010, 02:15 PM
Oh God..

:facepalm:

Decent role player? I don't think decent role players make All-NBA teams and All-Star teams.. Just my guess though

But continue.. I want to know more, since you know so much :)

Again, it is easy to pad your stats/look much better when teams in the East are generally weak (particularly at PF), and the Raptors did not necessarily bring out the most of their competitors given they did not even make the playoffs.

Put any number of PFs on a that team and they also pad stats/become All-Stars. If he played in the Western Conference there is no way he would be considered an All-Star, just lucky the East is lacking at that position.

Ethix11
07-18-2010, 02:20 PM
This season i think it will be Lakers-Heat. Next season i think it will be Heat-Thunder.

nanablvd
07-18-2010, 02:30 PM
Lakers vs Magic. I am sure Dwight will try to continue improving his offensive games in the summer, with Dallas losing in the WCF and Chicago losing in the EFC. I believe Dallas will make a major move or two during the season that upgrades the team enough to make the WCF, and the Heat will get knocked out by the Magic in the 2nd round.

inthecut-miami
07-18-2010, 02:34 PM
heat vs nuggets - heat sweep nuggets - FINALS MVP LEBRON

Jaji
07-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Heat over Lakers. Book it.

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 02:51 PM
Heat over Lakers. Book it.

NOt a homer pick at all:rolleyes: :D I see the heat losing to the magic because no one on that team will stop dwight howard

Jaji
07-18-2010, 02:53 PM
Oh yeah and LeBron is Finals MVP.

Redemption? More like destiny.

Avenged
07-18-2010, 02:55 PM
Anything but Lakers vs Celtics, enough is enough.

I'd like to see:

Lakers vs Heat

As would a lot of people ;)

Jaji
07-18-2010, 02:58 PM
NOt a homer pick at all:rolleyes: :D I see the heat losing to the magic because no one on that team will stop dwight howard

Not really. I just picked who I think has the best shot to come out of the East and the best shot to come out of the West and who I think would win a 7 game series between those 2 teams. So there is a method (pretty basic, in fact) to my madness. What you call a homer pick is merely a coincidence.

xxplayerxx23
07-18-2010, 03:01 PM
Not really. I just picked who I think has the best shot to come out of the East and the best shot to come out of the West and who I think would win a 7 game series between those 2 teams. So there is a method (pretty basic, in fact) to my madness. What you call a homer pick is merely a coincidence.

Oh it would be ok if it was a homer pick. HEAT have a big chance (baring any injures) to make it to the finals i just dont see it. And if they did win i think Wade would be finals MVP:D

TheWatcher34
07-18-2010, 03:02 PM
Cavs vs Lakers --> Cavs winning it in 6 games :D

netsgiantsyanks
07-18-2010, 03:07 PM
knicks vs grizzlies with the grizzlies winning in 7. hey, if can happen in 2k10, it can happen anywhere else.

BringMeKG
07-18-2010, 03:20 PM
UMM... anyone who doesn't have the Lakers coming out of the West either:

1. Doesn't know basketball very well
2. Is just a straight up Laker Hater.

There is no way on earth that anyone in the West beats the Lakers in the WCF.

Now for the East, a week ago I would've said Orlando or the Bulls because the "Big Three" in Miami didn't have any team around them, but now that everyone and they mama is lining up to sign with them for the minimum (which I never saw coming) I would say they are the favorites in the East.

The Lakers still win in in 6 or 7 because of chemistry. The Lakers will probably take it next year too but after that, it is anyone's to take.

heatfan21
07-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Lakers-Heat

Injuries will be the biggest factor but if these two teams are healthy they should make it

Kashmir13579
07-18-2010, 03:36 PM
LMAO.

He's not aware that "The Bosh" was the only player averaging 24/11 last season. Not Dirk, not Gasol, not Howard, etc. Just "The Bosh."

just like david lee. its easy to put up numbers on a crappy team.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:39 PM
Well... Both Bosh and Lee are two of the better rebounders in the NBA, though. That's not just because of the team that they are on.

JWO35
07-18-2010, 03:42 PM
EAST: Atlanta Hawks
WEST: Los Angeles Lakers

Kashmir13579
07-18-2010, 03:44 PM
the lakers would beat the heat in a seven game series. i cant wait for you heat fans to feel the sting.
i personally think a lot of teams can beat the heat though.

Ezekial
07-18-2010, 03:50 PM
The not Heat.

J$mo0th_3o5
07-18-2010, 03:50 PM
Lakers vs HEAT (obvious pick)

or

Thunder vs HEAT

or

for some odd reason I think we might see a rematch of the Mavs and HEAT. Idk I just have a gut feeling. History is gonna repeat itself:D

Minimal
07-18-2010, 03:52 PM
My predictions are:
Lakers (just cause they have the best roster in the league) from West and Heat from East.
Thunder will have a good season, but will still lose in West finals, due to the lack of good bigmen.
Orlando won't be better next season than this season.
Celtics will have a lot of injured guys during the playoffs and won't make it to the finals.
Chicago Bulls will meet the Heat in East finals and lose.

My prediction is that LeBron James will run the Heat's offense next year at the point guard position and will repeat Oscar's Robertson's record (hopefully) averaging triple double in a season and get his 3rd straight mvp award. Durant will finish second.

In the finals Heat using their home court advantage (best win record during season, 66-70 games) beat Lakers in 6 games. James wins finals mvp award.

As you already understood I'm Lebrons fan.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:54 PM
for some odd reason I think we might see a rematch of the Mavs and HEAT. Idk I just have a gut feeling. History is gonna repeat itself:D

OOOOOO, I really like the thought of that...

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 03:55 PM
Minimal is about to get maximum hate thrown his way... But I am hoping for the LeBron "Tha Don" triple double as well.

mets77
07-18-2010, 04:03 PM
opinion knicks vs lakers

coloute
07-18-2010, 05:04 PM
Magic vs. Jazz, Jazz win it in 6 (biased)

shep33
07-18-2010, 05:14 PM
Lakers vs Celtics... I honestly think Boston is still the team to beat out east.

They play the best D, KG's knee should be better than last seasons, they upgraded over Wallace at center with JO, Rondo is only going to be better... Just my opinion though.

Best interior defense in the league, they're going to force James and Wade to shoot from the outside, and Bosh has never played in a meaningful game in his career, plus he's going to get shut down one on one by KG or Perkins. Bosh isn't a banger like D12, he isn't as long as Gasol, and he always goes left, so I really think Boston will have his number.

inthecut-miami
07-18-2010, 05:21 PM
heat in the east, i would say lakers in the west, but to make 4 finals apearences in a row is super tough, so i'll go with the nuggets in the west.

blacknell
07-18-2010, 05:34 PM
with the nba being rigged i'm 100% certain it will be the lakers vs heat

dodie53
07-18-2010, 05:35 PM
suns vs heat.

:)

jaded01
07-18-2010, 05:45 PM
with the nba being rigged i'm 100% certain it will be the lakers vs heat

word.

Big Zo
07-18-2010, 05:54 PM
NOt a homer pick at all:rolleyes: :D I see the heat losing to the magic because no one on that team will stop dwight howard

Supposedly no one in the league has what it takes to stop Dwight, yet I don't see any rings on his fingers.

97NYer
07-18-2010, 05:56 PM
I would say in the west:

65% Lakers
10% Blazers
10% Mavs
10% Spurs
5% Rockets

East:

80% Heat
15% Magic
5% Celtics

DCB/LAL
07-18-2010, 09:36 PM
LOL at all the posters saying that a healthy Blazers/Rockets etc..... can upset the Lakers....


Do you guy fail to realize LA has NOT been healthy either the last 3 years in the playoffs?? And they STILL won 2 titles and have been to 3 finals.

plpfctn
07-18-2010, 09:37 PM
Heat have only 5 effective players. weak bench or weak starting PG and C. the only effective big is bosh so i see them losing to c's or magic. c's always play well in the playoffs. so i like c's and lakers again. probably seven games again.

Avenged
07-18-2010, 09:39 PM
Supposedly no one in the league has what it takes to stop Dwight, yet I don't see any rings on his fingers.

Mostly has to do with his teammates on this one, though I do see what you're trying to say.

But same thing can be said about Lebron, nobody could stop him but he has no rings as well.

Jenceman
07-18-2010, 09:47 PM
Celtics Vs Lakers since it's already happened this year.. Lakers won by the way in case you're curious.. :clap:

Next year when the Finals are played I think the Celtics or Heat will come out of the East and the Lakers from the West, and that's only because no other teams have done much out West to make themselves better.. Had any team made themselves marginally better I think next season would have been a best bet to dethrone the Lakers as they haven't done anything to make themselves better.. Adding Blake does nothing to help the Lakers in my opinion and I think they should have waited before blowing their wad of cash on him..

How does Blake not help the Lakers? He's instantly the best 3 point shooter on this team, and for those times when the Lakers don't run the triangle (since it's not like they run it 100% of the time) his ability as a pass first PG will come in handy. He's the best shooter from long range and probably the second or third best passer on this team. All he has to do is shoot open treys and create a shot once in awhile. Plus play some defense, which the whole world knows he is better than that at Farmar.

gerber
07-18-2010, 09:49 PM
bobcats vs. Lakers

cats in 4

lol.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-18-2010, 09:50 PM
People say "Heat don't have the bigs to beat the Magic/Celtics" but they don't have the SG or SF to match the Heat... I know, Pierce and Ray Allen but COME ON... Be real with yourself. No one can match that firepower and I am curious as to why everyone fails to acknowledge this.

Mavrix
07-18-2010, 10:07 PM
Mavs vs Heat rematch would be insane

Jonathan2323
07-18-2010, 10:11 PM
HEAT vs Nuggets

plpfctn
07-19-2010, 12:35 AM
People say "Heat don't have the bigs to beat the Magic/Celtics" but they don't have the SG or SF to match the Heat... I know, Pierce and Ray Allen but COME ON... Be real with yourself. No one can match that firepower and I am curious as to why everyone fails to acknowledge this.

you should watch the nba finals between celtics lakers this past year. rebounding won the series for the lakers.

Minimal
07-19-2010, 03:54 AM
Actually Heat have a pretty good guy on the center position - Joel Anthony. He is young and strong, 6'9 260lb. He is very fast for a center and can easily keep up with Heat's fast offence. He is good in defence and is a blockshot machine. They guy was making 1.4 blocks in 16.5 minutes of play last season. Give him 33 minutes, that will be 2.8 blocks (Howard's stats). However he is not that effective in offence, but he really doesn't need to be, all he needs to do is sometimes to just dunk the ball after Lebron's or Wade's passes.

Big Moves
07-19-2010, 03:58 AM
I think you're delusional/hater/dumb if you don't think Heat won't be in the finals...you will see this upcoming season that they will be blowing out every team they face.

Yeah, not happening. They'll be lucky to come out of the second round. Miami is another 2-3 years from being a serious threat.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-19-2010, 03:59 AM
you should watch the nba finals between celtics lakers this past year. rebounding won the series for the lakers.

Perfect argument for the Heat cause... LeBron is the best rebounder at the 3 position and Bosh is one of the best in the NBA. Good point.

Big Moves
07-19-2010, 04:00 AM
Lakers vs Celtics...Lakers in 6 close, tough games.

LBJ6
07-19-2010, 04:36 AM
Lakers or Mavs vs Heat. Miami in 5!

Kyben36
07-19-2010, 04:44 AM
POrtland, I see them finaly being healhty, I see the lakers also on the decline. Kobe is ( I think 34, damn I know, and he started young too) Porltand has a good team s well when healhty

for the east, I dont think that the heat are ready this year. I just dont. So I will go with the Magic.

Iggz53
07-19-2010, 04:57 AM
Heat and Lakers

BringMeKG
07-22-2010, 03:50 AM
Actually Heat have a pretty good guy on the center position - Joel Anthony. He is young and strong, 6'9 260lb. He is very fast for a center and can easily keep up with Heat's fast offence. He is good in defence and is a blockshot machine. They guy was making 1.4 blocks in 16.5 minutes of play last season. Give him 33 minutes, that will be 2.8 blocks (Howard's stats). However he is not that effective in offence, but he really doesn't need to be, all he needs to do is sometimes to just dunk the ball after Lebron's or Wade's passes.

Are you kidding me? 6'9" just ain't going to cut it for a championship contending team. They haven't played a game together and Joel Anthony is their best big? Sorry but LA, Boston, Orlando, Chicago, and Dallas would probably beat the Heat next year in a seven game series. You have to have some bigs these days and they got some impressive names but they are old or undersized.

I hate to break it to you guys, but the Lakers have the league on lock for the next 3 years at least. After that, you can have it back. LOL

heathonater
07-22-2010, 05:12 AM
going against the grain and picking lakers and heat.

mynameismo
07-22-2010, 05:17 AM
Lakers vs Celtics.. another game 7 please.

Iron24th
07-22-2010, 09:16 AM
Lakers - Heat

DodgerBlue22
07-22-2010, 09:34 AM
Oh God..

:facepalm:

Decent role player? I don't think decent role players make All-NBA teams and All-Star teams.. Just my guess though

But continue.. I want to know more, since you know so much :)

He's made All NBA Second Team once in his entire career and never again. He is stretching with his list of who is better than him, but i do agree he definitely is no superstar because superstars win I think he's played in a total of 7 playoff games??

thenaj17
07-22-2010, 09:35 AM
Eastern Finals Orlando Over Chicago 4-2
Western Finals Oklahoma City Over Denver 4-1
(Lakers will have a major injury unfortunately that will prevent the title)

Orlando 4- Oklahoma City 2

If the Lakers dont make it i'd definitely like to see Thunder and also i like Orlando style. Would be entertaining at least!

thenaj17
07-22-2010, 09:37 AM
knicks/boston vs suns/thunder

The Suns and Knicks will be low 7-8 seeds for sure but there would be some amazing high scoring games!

thenaj17
07-22-2010, 09:41 AM
There All Gonna Flop Just Watch, They All Want The Ball, And Their All Injury Prone With Wades Knees, Bosh's Knees, And James Tendonitis In His Shooting Elbow I Think They Will Make it To The Semi's Then Get Blown Out By Orlando Cause Bosh Cant Cover Dwight Howard or Even id Z Covers Him Howard Is To Strong And Fast.

At least you made 1 good point about Bosh not covering Howard

thenaj17
07-22-2010, 09:48 AM
umm...its really obvious....heat/lakers and i cant wait to see that series

Why is it obvious? Cleveland was the 'obvious' 1 last year and the year before Celtics were the 'obvious' team. A lot can change and nothing is obvious.

myglobs
07-22-2010, 09:48 AM
I say it will be the lakers vs. magic or celtics

i've read in a lot of posts eg. the cavs went to the second round with just james or the heat beat the magic in last years regular season twice and so on.... what you all forget, james did not play against other teams one on twelve. there were other players involved. just because you have individual taltent on the heat it does not mean they will jell well (see the lakers of 04).

i absolutley think the heat will own the reg. season but come playoff time its all about chemistry and that does not build in one year. just ask yourself why did the obviously older and out of their prime superstars out of boston beat the more talented younger teams? they now how to win togheter.

DodgerBlue22
07-22-2010, 09:50 AM
Why the hell are people picking Orlando?? Did we watch the playoffs?? They have gotten worse in the offseason with losing Barnes. Vince Carter is the King of Chokers proven again this season, Lewis is a no show and Dwight has zero offensive game so with a big team like the Celtics they are very easily handled. The Celtics on the other hand have improved internally simply by the fact KG will be 100% healthy second year removed from surgery. Another year for Rondo means he keeps getting better and better and they actually had draft picks in Avery Bradley and Harrangody who can help off of the bench this season.JO is a huge upgrade from Sheed. Plus they are not finished making moves they still have Sheed's contract dangling to pick up another piece to the puzzle. Anyone not looking at Celtics/Lakers in my opinion is just dreaming for a change, but it's not gonna happen here's why the Bulls are too young, Mavs never get it done, Heat too much ego, Thunder too young(1 year away) and everyone else is just there..

JARVIS123
07-22-2010, 10:05 AM
Lakers vs Heat, Heat beat sweep lakers.

ballerallday81
07-22-2010, 10:36 AM
Mike James Vs Miami Heat
Mike is gonna win the finals in two games, hes just that raw:clap:

The Bundyz
07-22-2010, 12:19 PM
Celtics - Lakers