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ripjhb18
07-14-2010, 09:21 PM
http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/18563540331
http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/18563676063
http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/18563598644

No way he could pass up that money.


Raja Bell won't be meeting face-to-face with longtime nemesis Kobe Bryant after all.

He's signing with the Utah Jazz instead.

Sources with knowledge of the deal told ESPN.com that Bell and the Jazz have agreed to terms on a three-year deal worth nearly $10 million, forcing Bell to cancel his sit-down in Los Angeles with Bryant that had been scheduled for Wednesday.

ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5381152)

lamar2006
07-14-2010, 09:23 PM
wtf

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 09:23 PM
WOW really? Utah?

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 09:24 PM
Wait for how much?

lamar2006
07-14-2010, 09:24 PM
I guess T-Mac is next

ripjhb18
07-14-2010, 09:25 PM
added another link.

lamar2006
07-14-2010, 09:25 PM
3 yrs. 10 mill about

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 09:25 PM
Oh well that was fun

Faycem
07-14-2010, 09:28 PM
Oh, come on!:mad:

lamar2006
07-14-2010, 09:30 PM
Kobe should rent him a home so he can avoid paying rent or owning the home. that way he saves at least a million or 2 for the course of his contract

Go Dodgers!
07-14-2010, 09:31 PM
:mad:Crap!

kobebabe
07-14-2010, 09:31 PM
OH NO! But it's all good coz it ain't miami,........

Avenged
07-14-2010, 09:32 PM
Ouch..

Utah comes out of nowhere and snags our player.

Chacarron
07-14-2010, 09:32 PM
T-mac here comes Kobe.

plpfctn
07-14-2010, 09:34 PM
lakers just didn't have enough money. good for raja. i hope we resign shannon brown and maybe kurt thomas.

BlackMambaKB24
07-14-2010, 09:34 PM
haha its ok we still took back D-Fish from them

showtime24
07-14-2010, 09:34 PM
damn! utah!

Bell wants money instead of getting a ring and a chance to be part of a 3-peat team :facepalm:

shep33
07-14-2010, 09:35 PM
wow 10 mill is a lot, we could come nowhere near affording that.

Faycem
07-14-2010, 09:35 PM
I don't get it. For that money they could get Brewer..they just want to screw us

iggypop123
07-14-2010, 09:36 PM
cant compete with that offer

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 09:38 PM
I don't get it. For that money they could get Brewer..they just want to screw us

Yeah I don't really understand this move from a Utah point of view. I mean he seems like he'd be more of a fit on a team contending and unless something changes, that isn't Utah.

Teeboy1487
07-14-2010, 09:38 PM
Bell did the smart thing but I was not big on him coming to LA anyway. I would rather Tmac and Barnes over him. Utah is slowly getting some talent. They might be a little bothersome.

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 09:38 PM
Bell did the smart thing but I was not big on him coming to LA anyway. I would rather Tmac and Barnes over him. Utah is slowly getting some talent. They might be a little bothersome.

They lost far more talent than they acquired this offseason.

gr824
07-14-2010, 09:39 PM
The best the Lakers could have offered for 3 years would have been a pact worth a total of $5.5774 million ...

So, apparently, an extra $1.4 mil/season or so is worth more than a ring [ or more than one ] to Bell ... What can ya do ? :shrug:

shep33
07-14-2010, 09:39 PM
I don't get it. For that money they could get Brewer..they just want to screw us

Haha lets not forget that we've absolutely owned them in the playoffs, I think they'll try to screw us a bit anyways.

last 3 years we're what 12-3 against the Jazz? I don't really blame them, they needed to replace Korver.

PraiseJesus
07-14-2010, 09:39 PM
Tmac to heat. It is what it is.

Steve Blake was the big addition....

Go Dodgers!
07-14-2010, 09:40 PM
I guess T-Mac is next

Clippers after him now..

shep33
07-14-2010, 09:41 PM
Wish we could get Barnes, but he's probably more expensive than Bell. Brown is probably going to come back now, so that leaves us with maybe a Kurt Thomas or Joe Smith as our backup big.

kblo247
07-14-2010, 09:43 PM
Damn it I don't want Shannon, unless we are going to use that 1.8mil on Kwame as well :(

bocajr22
07-14-2010, 09:43 PM
so much for this interview i found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUMzPDCHl5E&feature=player_embedded#!

ldawg
07-14-2010, 09:44 PM
lakers just didn't have enough money. good for raja. i hope we resign shannon brown and maybe kurt thomas.

Well i had a thought when Kobe was maxing out i stated in a thread he should accept less $$ to keep good players around him as a ages, but i guess they did not see what was brewing in south beach. Its good to be proactive.

justinnum1
07-14-2010, 09:44 PM
Guess neither of us got him...he is 34 and they will be paying him 3+mil when he is 37:speechless:

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 09:45 PM
Damn it I don't want Shannon, unless we are going to use that 1.8mil on Kwame as well :(

I honestly don't either, he doesn't really fit our system very well.

nanablvd
07-14-2010, 09:46 PM
Raja is a very loyal person. He really takes it personal and appreciates every contract he's been given by teams and the way he's treated during his tenures. And apparently, money is also a huge factor here.

Shannon or Tmac, and then Mbanga or Kurt Thomas!

Faycem
07-14-2010, 09:46 PM
Haha lets not forget that we've absolutely owned them in the playoffs, I think they'll try to screw us a bit anyways.

last 3 years we're what 12-3 against the Jazz? I don't really blame them, they needed to replace Korver.

Well, if they want to replace Korver, R. Butler is out there in the market. Come oooon!!!:mad::mad::mad::facepalm:

kblo247
07-14-2010, 09:47 PM
DJ should be a last choice and Shannon should as well.

Kurt Thomas and Kwame are both better than DJ.
Matt Barnes, T-Mac, and Brewer are all better than Shannon.

They just wanted to **** block LA for all those *** whooping we have put on them since Fish came back.

Faycem
07-14-2010, 09:51 PM
I think Barnes was refusing much bigger offers than we can bring.
T-Mac, please!

ironkobe
07-14-2010, 09:52 PM
hope lakers go after tmac in jerry stackhouse before they go to the heat

gr824
07-14-2010, 09:55 PM
Well i had a thought when Kobe was maxing out i stated in a thread he should accept less $$ to keep good players around him as a ages, but i guess they did not see what was brewing in south beach. Its good to be proactive.

Stop with this crud ... Bryant taking less on his extension would have had no effect whatsoever on how many FA $$$s the Lakers would have right now ...

I mean, really, as often as I have pointed out on this forum the Cap numbers involved with this process, I am amazed how regular readers here like you can still be putting forth these ill-considered opinions that have no basis in fact ... It is nothing short of discouraging ... :pity:

CLASSOF72
07-14-2010, 10:02 PM
Stop with this crud ... Bryant taking less on his extension would have had no effect whatsoever on how many FA $$$s the Lakers would have right now ...

I mean, really, as often as I have pointed out on this forum the Cap numbers involved with this process, I am amazed how regular readers here like you can still be putting forth these ill-considered opinions that have no basis in fact ... It is nothing short of discouraging ... :pity:

Please don't be discouraged O' gr8 one. Without your extensive knowledge and contributions this forum would quickly be reduced to what if's and maybe they shoulds with no reference to any sort of reality check what so ever. We'd be flying blind. Idawg should no better, but hey the quality frees are quickly disapeering as usual it's not crud he's spewing it's desparity.

KillaInstinct24
07-14-2010, 10:05 PM
money or championships people, its as simple as that

KillaInstinct24
07-14-2010, 10:08 PM
but u know whats really funny about things like this. utah has no chance to challenge the lakers next year, they know that, sloan knows that, they just dont wanna see us have it easy so they go after the guys we're going after

kblo247
07-14-2010, 10:10 PM
At least he told the Bulls no too:


Sources say Raja Bell also had firm two-year offer from Chicago worth more than $8 million, but Jazz trumped Bulls, Lakers, etc.

STEIN_LINE_HQ

kblo247
07-14-2010, 10:12 PM
but u know whats really funny about things like this. utah has no chance to challenge the lakers next year, they know that, sloan knows that, they just dont wanna see us have it easy so they go after the guys we're going after

More than double the money for a role player who hasn't made that much in his career.

I can't really call him out on that as well as the fact he goes to a place where he has a home, knows the coach, and will start.

ldawg
07-14-2010, 10:12 PM
nope, Shaq and Tmac or Thomas, Barnes and Brown even Better a trade idea a Varejoa and a Parker for Luke and Sasha and rights to Carater?

Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Parker/Bell, Barnes or Brown( the cheapest one)
Artest/Odom/Ebanks
Pau/Varejoa/powell
Bynum/Thomas

Penetra8r
07-14-2010, 10:13 PM
Jeez, I just saw a video on Bell talking about his dinner w/ Kobe... Guess that got shot down.

Tree Rollins
07-14-2010, 10:14 PM
lakers just didn't have enough money. good for raja. i hope we resign shannon brown and maybe kurt thomas.

Honestly, i could give a *** about Shannon Brown. I want Barnes.

showtym24
07-14-2010, 10:15 PM
Money means more to him. Simple as that. Oh well.

Raidaz4Life
07-14-2010, 10:15 PM
Its funny that I read that he blew off dinner to go sign the contract. I bet the Jazz said that the offer was off the table if he met with Kobe or that the offer only stood for tonight.

ldawg
07-14-2010, 10:18 PM
nope, Shaq and Tmac or Thomas, Barnes and Brown even Better a trade idea a Varejoa and a Parker for Luke and Sasha and rights to Carater?

Did bell sign? I thought he said will make the call next week?

Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Parker/Bell, Barnes or Brown( the cheapest one)
Artest/Odom/Ebanks
Pau/Varejoa/powell
Bynum/Thomas

lalalakerz09
07-14-2010, 10:21 PM
TMac, Ebanks and Caracter....Ebanks is a decent defender. Cant blame Bell going for the big bucks. We better do something soon or we will be left in the dust. Luke, DJ, Powell not gonna be much help. Shannon prob will be gone too but we cant overpay him either. I rather take my chances with the Rookies than overpay Brown.

Faycem
07-14-2010, 10:22 PM
What about Keith Bogans? I think he can be more productive than Brown...

KillaInstinct24
07-14-2010, 10:23 PM
tmac will be a clipper, yay clippers!!!! woohoo

Kobe4Life
07-14-2010, 10:26 PM
Well he chose money over a ring. Lets move on.

kblo247
07-14-2010, 10:26 PM
He just made my **** list as this mean Shannon returns and gets his damn asking price to boot :bang:


@STEIN_LINE_HQ ESPN.com sources say Lakers still talking to Shannon Brown about a return. Two-time champs obviously still want more guard depth 10 minutes

The only thing that can salvage this is flipping that $1.8 million for Kwame to play behind Bynum

Faycem
07-14-2010, 10:31 PM
He just made my **** list as this mean Shannon returns and gets his damn asking price to boot :bang:



The only thing that can salvage this is flipping that $1.8 million for Kwame to play behind Bynum


If we sadly resign him, I really hope, now that he gets his overpaid contract, he performs and keep focus on basketball. Contract years really were the main problem for Farmar and Shannon last year.

kblo247
07-14-2010, 10:33 PM
If we sadly resign him, I really hope, now that he gets his overpaid contract, he performs and keep focus on basketball. Contract years really were the main problem for Farmar and Shannon last year.

I thought it was their brain being deprived from oxygen myself.

I guess we have to hope that Blake gets and keeps him under control and out of trouble. :(

still1ballin
07-14-2010, 10:33 PM
Wow wtf! This is a shock! Out of all teams. If not Lakers, then I would expect Miami. Stupid Utah, I guess we gonna have to bounce your ***** out of the playoffs once again.

Bell is a $ chaser. Guess he doesn't want a shot at the ring. I hope Kobe lights his *** up when they play.

Dirty4
07-14-2010, 10:34 PM
He just made my **** list as this mean Shannon returns and gets his damn asking price to boot :bang:



The only thing that can salvage this is flipping that $1.8 million for Kwame to play behind Bynum

Lakers can't give Brown his asking price considering they only have $1.8M to spend. They can overpay for him in any following years considering they will have full Bird rights on him though, but not in '10-'11.

He overplayed his hand opting out of the $2.1M+ that he had coming to him.

lamar2006
07-14-2010, 10:36 PM
Lakers can't give Brown his asking price considering they only have $1.8M to spend. They can overpay for him in any following years considering they will have full Bird rights on him though, but not in '10-'11.

He overplayed his hand opting out of the $2.1M+ that he had coming to him.

dude what are you talking about. we gave him 2+ mil this year. and we used our MLE on Artest so how did we end up paying him more than the vets min.

LifeLongLaker
07-14-2010, 10:37 PM
Wow wtf! This is a shock! Out of all teams. If not Lakers, then I would expect Miami. Stupid Utah, I guess we gonna have to bounce your ***** out of the playoffs once again.

Bell is a $ chaser. Guess he doesn't want a shot at the ring. I hope Kobe lights his *** up when they play.


And I'm thinkin' Artest will be guarding Bell on the flip side!!! :smoking:

A little floortime anyone?

Faycem
07-14-2010, 10:39 PM
I thought it was their brain being deprived from oxygen myself.

I guess we have to hope that Blake gets and keeps him under control and out of trouble. :(

Yeah, at least this year we'll not have both, Farmar and Brown out of control on the floor at the same time. Blake is being more and more valuable..and the season hasn't even started LOL

LA_Raiders
07-14-2010, 10:41 PM
oh well, go to a loser in utah...

still1ballin
07-14-2010, 10:41 PM
And I'm thinkin' Artest will be guarding Bell on the flip side!!! :smoking:

A little floortime anyone?

Clothesline his punk ***

Faycem
07-14-2010, 10:42 PM
Clothesline his punk ***

there we go! :laugh:

x_notorious
07-14-2010, 10:43 PM
Lakers need to turn their attention to Matt Barnes and T-Mac. Really wanted Bell but I guess $1.8million wasn't enough.

KillaInstinct24
07-14-2010, 10:43 PM
this thread can be closed

Iceman_9
07-14-2010, 10:46 PM
he wants money. he doesnt want the ring. that amount of money is sure hard to pass though..

gr824
07-14-2010, 10:47 PM
dude what are you talking about. we gave him 2+ mil this year. and we used our MLE on Artest so how did we end up paying him more than the vets min.

Last summer, Brown got the LLE/BAE ... It was a two-year deal, with a player option on Year Two; the total value of the pact was about $4.14 million ...

shep33
07-14-2010, 10:49 PM
That's way too much for him, I was skeptical about him coming here for the 1.8 that we'd offer him, just cause he's 34, played in 6 games last year and is coming off of surgery. Haha he is not worth that 10 mil though that's absolutely insane.


The Jazz just lost Wesley Matthews with this move, so I don't really get why they did this. Haha I mean yah they screwed us over a bit, but really they screwed themselves too.

Don't get that move for them at all.

kblo247
07-14-2010, 10:56 PM
Lakers need to turn their attention to Matt Barnes and T-Mac. Really wanted Bell but I guess $1.8million wasn't enough.

Barnes turned down over 2mil from Orlando, and Mac is looking to get paid and start in Hollywood just with the Clips that is.

I say roll the dice on Shannon and hope he stays in control and grows into a valuable and reliable player by giving him 3 years and $9mil (500k increases).

Then use that remaining $1.8mil on Kwame to backup Bynum on the cheap for a bout 3 years at the rate they offered Raja.

kblo247
07-14-2010, 11:02 PM
At least Kobe gets to light that *** up and hit him with some bows possibly 11 times this year :D

PGLakers
07-14-2010, 11:08 PM
not everybody is nuts after rings. yeah 10 years from now he can show that he has a ring..but i m sure he will enjoy the 4 mill dollars lot more. and of course there is no guarantee whatsoever that the team u go to is going to win the ring.

rings are more important to superstars then they are to bench players who get forgotten in X amt of years.

good for him...i wouldve loved that extra defensive guy...and now we are after shannon? ahh

Faycem
07-14-2010, 11:10 PM
Barnes turned down over 2mil from Orlando, and Mac is looking to get paid and start in Hollywood just with the Clips that is.

I say roll the dice on Shannon and hope he stays in control and grows into a valuable and reliable player by giving him 3 years and $9mil (500k increases).

Then use that remaining $1.8mil on Kwame to backup Bynum on the cheap for a bout 3 years at the rate they offered Raja.

Instead of Kwame, why not Juwan Howard. Add a good and competitive role player and screw the Heat

Iron24th
07-14-2010, 11:11 PM
OK now I hate Bell so much more.

kblo247
07-14-2010, 11:13 PM
Instead of Kwame, why not Juwan Howard. Add a good and competitive role player and screw the Heat


Kwame knows the offense.
He and Odom play well together.
LA had the best record in the west when Kwame backed up Bynum in 08 before the Pau trade.
Everyone likes him from Kobe to Phil.
He can offer defense on big bodies like Yao, Boozer, KG, and Duncan which would help Pau.
He is still reasonably young.
I'd like to see him redeem himself.


I'd still like Kurt Thomas if we could get him, but I wouldn't object to Kwame by any means.

KillaInstinct24
07-14-2010, 11:14 PM
i think shannon will do better this year because he wont be asked to play PG any more with blake here. He will know exactly what to do when he comes into the game now because he will be our SG and not a combo guard. So maybe he can find some fluidity and consistency to his game

thunderdood
07-14-2010, 11:14 PM
Have some of you guys ever thought that by signing in Utah instead of LA he will get starter minutes along with a much bigger contract? By signing with the Lakers he would play, what 12 minutes a game at most backing up Kobe? Typical thinking of bandwagon fans...

PGLakers
07-14-2010, 11:15 PM
That's way too much for him, I was skeptical about him coming here for the 1.8 that we'd offer him, just cause he's 34, played in 6 games last year and is coming off of surgery. Haha he is not worth that 10 mil though that's absolutely insane.


The Jazz just lost Wesley Matthews with this move, so I don't really get why they did this. Haha I mean yah they screwed us over a bit, but really they screwed themselves too.

Don't get that move for them at all.

its a 3 yr 10 million deal...so average of little over 3 mill a year...we were going to pay him 1.8...

its not that much more than we were going to offer.

sasuke_20
07-14-2010, 11:16 PM
c'mon,now that bell is done,,what is the next move??????????who else will fit for us????

PGLakers
07-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Have some of you guys ever thought that by signing in Utah instead of LA he will get starter minutes along with a much bigger contract? By signing with the Lakers he would play, what 12 minutes a game at most backing up Kobe? Typical thinking of bandwagon fans...

and utah has someone who they can put up agaisnt kobe..i m not saying bell would shut down kobe..but given other options on jazz's team...bell is prolly best option they have for guarding kobe lol

gr824
07-14-2010, 11:18 PM
Barnes turned down over 2mil from Orlando, and Mac is looking to get paid and start in Hollywood just with the Clips that is.

I say roll the dice on Shannon and hope he stays in control and grows into a valuable and reliable player by giving him 3 years and $9mil (500k increases).

Then use that remaining $1.8mil on Kwame to backup Bynum on the cheap for a bout 3 years at the rate they offered Raja.

My reading of contract values available to Early Bird rights players says such a contract cannot be offered to Brown ... What he can legally get as I read the rules:

A two-year deal worth the league's average salary, which is at least $5.2 million and may actually be exactly the same as the MLE value [ $5.765 million ]. That would mean Brown would cost the Lakers between $10.4 and $11.53 million in salary alone for two seasons [ not gonna happen ] ...

The balance of the MLE for one up to five seasons. At one year, that would be $1.765 million; for three seasons, that would yield a total contract of $5.5774 million; or, for five years, that would be a $9.3898 million pact [ one of these options might be possible, meaning 'acceptable' to Brown ] ...

The veteran's minimum, which for Brown would be $915,852 in Year One of a possible two-year pact ...

PGLakers
07-14-2010, 11:18 PM
at this rate we might even haard time filling up our roster...i sure as hell dont want ammo mbenga etc filling up our bench while we try for 3 peat. we need players who would actually get playing time and players who show up and are hungry. i am hoping for some sort of trade.

Burleson81
07-14-2010, 11:20 PM
c'mon,now that bell is done,,what is the next move??????????who else will fit for us????

Kurt Thomas, then Matt Barnes.

Faycem
07-14-2010, 11:22 PM
Kwame knows the offense.
He and Odom play well together.
LA had the best record in the west when Kwame backed up Bynum in 08 before the Pau trade.
Everyone likes him from Kobe to Phil.
He can offer defense on big bodies like Yao, Boozer, KG, and Duncan which would help Pau.
He is still reasonably young.
I'd like to see him redeem himself.


I'd still like Kurt Thomas if we could get him, but I wouldn't object to Kwame by any means.

I think half NBA has said that at some point of his career.:p

OK, good points, but look at the season Howard had last year. He can play defense, he brings energy and most of all, he can hit mid range jumpers, something basic in our offense.
Another thing is that Howard has talked about joining the Heat. He is willing to get a vet. min. for playing for a contender. Kwame, I don't think he will sacrifice any cent for a chance to win.

sasuke_20
07-14-2010, 11:24 PM
i love bell to be part of the lakeshow..well..it his loss not ours,,nobody wants to be a part of the 3peat ryt now( except blake ) they all want money.

thunderdood
07-14-2010, 11:27 PM
its a 3 yr 10 million deal...so average of little over 3 mill a year...we were going to pay him 1.8...

its not that much more than we were going to offer.

You are a genius...ask yourself this from an opportunity point of view, 1.8 mil with little to no playing time, or 3+ mil for 3 years with starter minutes?

Dirty4
07-14-2010, 11:35 PM
dude what are you talking about. we gave him 2+ mil this year. and we used our MLE on Artest so how did we end up paying him more than the vets min.

You really should check facts before you post. It's not that hard...

BAE. Google it.

Mr. NBA
07-14-2010, 11:37 PM
with this signing it's realistically impossible to get T-Mac. Raja Bell didn't come because of money.

T-Mac isn't going to take whatever the Lakers are going to give him. It's a fact the Lakers are being stingy with the money in signing these players. But I also understand the fact that the Lakers have a huge luxury tax placed on upon their FO. So I understand that the Lakers have to be stingy in order not to pay a dollar more to David Stern.

I just don't see us getting anybody good at the level of money were are giving up.

Just don't expect T-Mac, or Barnes. Shannon Brown may be the only logical choice at this point.

gr824
07-14-2010, 11:38 PM
You are a genius...ask yourself this from an opportunity point of view, 1.8 mil with little to no playing time, or 3+ mil for 3 years with starter minutes?

That is not quite the proper equation for the choice involved. Try the following restatement:

Take $5.5774 million for three years with limited playing time AND the very real possibility of winning as many as three rings during the contract or accept $3+ million for each of three years with starter minutes but no realistic chance of ever being a champion ...

That is the choice that Bell faced ... Raja took the $$$s ...

BlackMambaKBB24
07-14-2010, 11:38 PM
Wow Raja...You wont ever wear a championship ring... Lets go after T-Mac and Barnes ASAP... Teams are snagging our players like kids taking candy at a candy store...Lets go FO make T-Mac and Barnes happen.

still1ballin
07-14-2010, 11:44 PM
with this signing it's realistically impossible to get T-Mac. Raja Bell didn't come because of money.

T-Mac isn't going to take whatever the Lakers are going to give him. It's a fact the Lakers are being stingy with the money in signing these players. But I also understand the fact that the Lakers have a huge luxury tax placed on upon their FO. So I understand that the Lakers have to be stingy in order not to pay a dollar more to David Stern.

I just don't see us getting anybody good at the level of money were are giving up.

Just don't expect T-Mac, or Barnes. Shannon Brown may be the only logical choice at this point.

I think Tmac will come and play for the Lakers for the vet min. There were already rumors of him being interested in the Heat and he knows all they can offer him is the vet min. Unless Clippers offer him a bogus contract, no doubt he will come and play for us.

gr824
07-14-2010, 11:44 PM
with this signing it's realistically impossible to get T-Mac. Raja Bell didn't come because of money.

T-Mac isn't going to take whatever the Lakers are going to give him. It's a fact the Lakers are being stingy with the money in signing these players. But I also understand the fact that the Lakers have a huge luxury tax placed on upon their FO. So I understand that the Lakers have to be stingy in order not to pay a dollar more to David Stern.

I just don't see us getting anybody good at the level of money were are giving up.

Just don't expect T-Mac, or Barnes. Shannon Brown may be the only logical choice at this point.

The Lakers are not being "stingy" with the FAs ... They are restricted by the CBA from spending anything beyond the balance of the MLE [ $1.765 million in Year One ] for any FA ... The LT may be a factor, but the fact remains that the Lakers CANNOT spend more $$$s even if Buss was willing to pay wads of additional LT bills ...

LakeShowRaider
07-14-2010, 11:48 PM
**** Raja Bell. I didn't want his ***. Bring Shannon back!!!

Mr. NBA
07-14-2010, 11:50 PM
The Lakers are not being "stingy" with the FAs ... They are restricted by the CBA from spending anything beyond the balance of the MLE [ $1.765 million in Year One ] for any FA ... The LT may be a factor, but the fact remains that the Lakers CANNOT spend more $$$s even if Buss was willing to pay wads of additional LT bills ...

your post equates to "Lakers we are not getting anybody good for the min, so Shannon Brown take it or leave it".

We're doomed.

Burleson81
07-14-2010, 11:56 PM
Can't fault Bell, they offered him more money and an opportunity to play for his former coach. Oh well.

deadman8586
07-14-2010, 11:59 PM
at this rate we might even haard time filling up our roster...i sure as hell dont want ammo mbenga etc filling up our bench while we try for 3 peat. we need players who would actually get playing time and players who show up and are hungry. i am hoping for some sort of trade.

The thing that no one wants to come here for less money. Face facts the luxury tax killed us this offseason.

gr824
07-15-2010, 12:00 AM
your post equates to "Lakers we are not getting anybody good for the min, so Shannon Brown take it or leave it".

We're doomed.

My post merely delineates the Laker $ situation accurately ... The Lakers have to get a player to accept the MLE balance. Now, that might be Brown or it might be someone else, but those are the parameters ...

As far as Los Angeles being "doomed", I do not see it that way ... Though, of course, you are entitled to your opinion [ BTW -- Assuming Miller signs with Miami, the HEAT have no Cap space left, so they can only offer vet's minimums from here on out ... and their roster 'shelf' is more bare than that of the Lakers. ] ...

Burleson81
07-15-2010, 12:06 AM
My post merely delineates the Laker $ situation accurately ... The Lakers have to get a player to accept the MLE balance. Now, that might be Brown or it might be someone else, but those are the parameters ...

As far as Los Angeles being "doomed", I do not see it that way ... Though, of course, you are entitled to your opinion [ BTW -- Assuming Miller signs with Miami, the HEAT have no Cap space left, so they can only offer vet's minimums from here on out ... and their roster 'shelf' is more bare than that of the Lakers. ] ...

True that. Vet min it is. :D

DRTRADE
07-15-2010, 12:07 AM
I hope Brown sign with the Lakers. I like to see him in the team. But I make a trade with the Raptors for Turku. send Sasha and Walton for him and sign TONY ALLEN

Ironman5219
07-15-2010, 12:09 AM
Yeah I don't really understand this move from a Utah point of view. I mean he seems like he'd be more of a fit on a team contending and unless something changes, that isn't Utah.

Utah doesn't want Brewer back, he can't shoot. We really wanted Wes Mathews, but Portland screwed us with that gaint front loaded contract for 9 million the first year and then 6 mill for the rest- So that backfired on them. Bell is a great signing for Utah, Bell has played here before and knows our system, he's a great defender and can shoot the 3 which is an upgrade over Korver. With the way you guys manhandled us in the playoffs we had to make a move to compete. LA is still the team to beat no matter what happends in Miami. Congrads on your Championship this year. WIth Respect:- from Jazz fan.

Iron24th
07-15-2010, 12:10 AM
People were complaining about the fact that we were getting older by signing Bell and K.Thomas ,now if we bring back Shannon instead ,he's young and athletic, whatever we should sign one or two more vets with or without Shannon.

gr824
07-15-2010, 12:11 AM
I hope Brown sign with the Lakers. I like to see him in the team. But I make a trade with the Raptors for Turku. send Sasha and Walton for him and sign TONY ALLEN

Turkoglu was traded to Phoenix and Allen signed with the Grizzlies, I believe ... You are not up on current events ... :rolleyes:

:D :D :D

shep33
07-15-2010, 12:12 AM
its a 3 yr 10 million deal...so average of little over 3 mill a year...we were going to pay him 1.8...

its not that much more than we were going to offer.


Its nearly double of what we'd offer him.

3 years 10 mill= 3.33 mill a year

Say LA signed him for 1.8 for 3 years= 5.4 mill total...

5.4 mil to 10 mil is a huge difference man

PGLakers
07-15-2010, 12:12 AM
Utah doesn't want Brewer back, he can't shoot. We really wanted Wes Mathews, but Portland screwed us with that gaint front loaded contract for 9 million the first year and then 6 mill for the rest- So that backfired on them. Bell is a great signing for Utah, Bell has played here before and knows our system, he's a great defender and can shoot the 3 which is an upgrade over Korver. With the way you guys manhandled us in the playoffs we had to make a move to compete. LA is still the team to beat no matter what happends in Miami. Congrads on your Championship this year. WIth Respect:- from Jazz fan.

thank you and good luck to your team.

with respect - lakers fan

Iron24th
07-15-2010, 12:12 AM
I hope Brown sign with the Lakers. I like to see him in the team. But I make a trade with the Raptors for Turku. send Sasha and Walton for him and sign TONY ALLEN

Turk is a Sun and Tony Allen is a grizzlie now.

PGLakers
07-15-2010, 12:14 AM
Its nearly double of what we'd offer him.

3 years 10 mill= 3.33 mill a year

Say LA signed him for 1.8 for 3 years= 5.4 mill total...

5.4 mil to 10 mil is a huge difference man

i was trying to point out that he is not getting overpaid by much. 4mill over 3 year period is not much when it comes to nba.

PGLakers
07-15-2010, 12:15 AM
Turk is a Sun and Tony Allen is a grizzlie now.

Livingston is gone as well. He went to Cats.

XerxestheGreat
07-15-2010, 12:25 AM
i was trying to point out that he is not getting overpaid by much. 4mill over 3 year period is not much when it comes to nba.

I see what your saying...but in real life 4Mil is a lot of money...and there is life after the NBA for Bell

PGLakers
07-15-2010, 12:41 AM
I see what your saying...but in real life 4Mil is a lot of money...and there is life after the NBA for Bell

lol k let me clarify. the OP to whom i was replying was saying that 10 mill for bell was wayy tooo much; hence, i was tying to point out to him that is not that more than what lakers were going to pay him per year.

I have no problem whatsoever with bell's decision. :)

shep33
07-15-2010, 01:04 AM
lol k let me clarify. the OP to whom i was replying was saying that 10 mill for bell was wayy tooo much; hence, i was tying to point out to him that is not that more than what lakers were going to pay him per year.

I have no problem whatsoever with bell's decision. :)

I get what your saying man, it makes sense per year, however... nba players look at the years and total money too. Many players actually take a little less per year as long as the years add up to more total money.

Look at Pierce in Boston, he turned down 21 mill (ETO), instead taking a 4 year 61 mill contract. More guaranteed money in the long run.

I know what your saying though, but still in total that's what 4.6 total more than if we'd offered him a 3 year deal at 1.8 per.

Agreed about Bell though, he can do what he wants, I'm actually not upset. He's 34 coming off of Knee surgery. Really hasn't played in a year either.

MJL
07-15-2010, 02:10 AM
Once a jerk, always a jerk!

anub!s
07-15-2010, 03:02 AM
I'm sure kobe was buying! Why RAJA??! Why did you skip a free dinner??!!?

robdizzle3
07-15-2010, 03:11 AM
We have the same team basically, but added Blake. I really think we should take a chance somewhere. I can see us signing Barnes, but I wouldnt mind us taking a chance on T-Mac.

Dirty4
07-15-2010, 03:16 AM
This is no big deal. I mainly just wanted to keep him away from MIA. This works for me.

The Raven
07-15-2010, 02:56 PM
wow. This sorta blows my mind. Why the hell would he wanna sign with a team that has no chance of winning a championship. He had a golden opportunity to join this team and win a ring. Hell he had Kobe's backing and all. Really an odd ball decision that i think he's going to regret

Raidaz4Life
07-15-2010, 02:58 PM
wow. This sorta blows my mind. Why the hell would he wanna sign with a team that has no chance of winning a championship. He had a golden opportunity to join this team and win a ring. Hell he had Kobe's backing and all. Really an odd ball decision that i think he's going to regret

Nahh he just knows that with the new CBA this is going to be his last big pay day and considering they offered him a starting job and double the money we were... its pretty easy to understand. Not to mention the Jazz are in a good situation... not a championship team but still a winning team and from what I understand he enjoyed playing for Jerry Sloan.