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JordansBulls
07-10-2010, 01:12 PM
Who will be the 2010-2011 MVP?

J-Relo
07-10-2010, 01:47 PM
I believe the drop in numbers of Miami trio won't be as big, but will play the role.

Durant. He definitely should be in the conversation, Dwight is probably going to have nice numbers.

bigsams50
07-10-2010, 01:51 PM
Lebron. I still think he's gonna get his, and the team will probably win more than 60 games.

Swashcuff
07-10-2010, 01:53 PM
Why are you being so disrespectful and putting TMac on that list.

JNA17
07-10-2010, 01:53 PM
Since lebron is pretty much out with the trio he has and the fact that his stats will most likely go down, it's now either kobe, durant, dwight, or other.....

and OP.....why the **** did you put Tracy McGrady as one of the choices!?

SA5195
07-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Durant
Kobe
Melo

Jaji
07-10-2010, 01:56 PM
I think LeBron will win it again because he doesn't have to score to be effective. He'll still drop about 25 a game I think but his assists should go way up. He could average a triple double next year if he gets his rebounding totals up. It wouldn't surprise me to see him average 10 assists though with other guys on his team who can actually score.

Dark horse is Durant if they can get more wins.

If it's too close to call: Kobe.

Sixerlover
07-10-2010, 01:58 PM
You T-Mac bias is showing. Might want to cover that up.

If OKC wins 50+ again this year it'll be Durant

AI4MVP
07-10-2010, 01:58 PM
i picked Derrick Rose. I think that team will be top 3 in the east next year and a serious finals contender. Derrick Rose is the man on that team undebatably and hes going to have a big year, especially with the addition of carlos boozer, and his assits numbers will go up with the addition of kyle korver and potentially jj redick.

i can see Derrick Rose getting 24 ppg 9 apg while leading the Bulls to 50+ wins

Jaji
07-10-2010, 01:59 PM
I voted T Mac just for the fun of it :p

MJ-BULLS
07-10-2010, 02:02 PM
id go with Durant, hes a beast.

One guy to watch is rose, im not trying to be a homer or anything, but his assists number are going to go up with the additions we made and scoring will go up also.

Canterbury
07-10-2010, 02:05 PM
Does he just create threads out of impulsive habit?

HoopsDrive
07-10-2010, 02:06 PM
Wtf is McGrady doing in that list?

I can't take this **** seriously seeing a name like Tmac in there.

Swashcuff
07-10-2010, 02:06 PM
Wtf is McGrady doing in that list?

I can't take this **** seriously seeing a name like Tmac in there.

x2

Dol-Fan
07-10-2010, 02:07 PM
I voted T Mac just for the fun of it :p

Me too, the T Mac renaissance is upon us.

Swashcuff
07-10-2010, 02:13 PM
/thread

its pointless plus there is been like 3 threads on this since LBJ committed

Niro
07-10-2010, 02:16 PM
i think its still gonna be lebron

magichatnumber9
07-10-2010, 02:16 PM
Durant

ABOMB_56
07-10-2010, 02:19 PM
Personally, I think LBJ will win it for the 3rd straight season. His assist and rebounding totals will be way up and his scoring will only take a slight hit. He has the best chance at averaging a triple double for the entire season since the Big O did it.
I see his line looking like this:
23.5 PPG
10.2 APG
10.1 RPG
1.2 BPG
1.3 SPG

But I voted for T-mac because he got into a time machine and switched places with the T-mac from Orlando

Jays Claw
07-10-2010, 02:23 PM
In my opinion, Kevin Durant will be the 2010-2011 most valuable player.

ldc62
07-10-2010, 02:43 PM
Tmac.... when you could've put Yao, Bosh, Joe Johnson or any good player for that matter. Tmac is done.

Dallas Tx4Life
07-10-2010, 02:45 PM
WHAT WOULD YOU HATERS DO IF LEBRON PULLS OFF THE MV THREE-PEAT?!?!?! suicide?

Raph12
07-10-2010, 03:19 PM
The poll was a stupid idea, Lebron will never win it again, it will be between Dwight, Durant and Kobe.

Hustlenomics
07-10-2010, 03:23 PM
I voted T Mac just for the fun of it :p

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SF25
07-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Since LeBron's numbers will drop by joining the Heat, Kobe.

defender4m
07-10-2010, 03:41 PM
Kb24

Lakersfanla24
07-10-2010, 03:45 PM
for me it was between Kobe and Durant, I went with durant because kobe will most likely play less minutes. Plus durant is gonna be a beast next year.

DeyAce
07-10-2010, 03:53 PM
Kobe

Avenged
07-10-2010, 03:54 PM
Durant, Kobe, Wade/Lebron in that order.

If Wade or Lebron win it, it really depends on the type of record they end up having.

Allstar21
07-10-2010, 03:56 PM
haaaa 6 votes for t-mac

shizzle09
07-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Since lebron is pretty much out with the trio he has and the fact that his stats will most likely go down, it's now either kobe, durant, dwight, or other.....

and OP.....why the **** did you put Tracy McGrady as one of the choices!?

whats even better is 6 people have voted for him

GoferKing_
07-10-2010, 04:04 PM
Durant is the frontrunner, but other player will win it. Reke , if Sac Kings win 55 games (very veery veeery optimistic) ;D

JordansBulls
07-10-2010, 05:09 PM
You T-Mac bias is showing. Might want to cover that up.

If OKC wins 50+ again this year it'll be Durant

It was meant to be a joke. However people still voted for him. Goes to show people are not honest in polls

CowboysKB24
07-10-2010, 11:33 PM
I think it is Durant. His team is going to win 50 plus games next year, maybe even reach 60.

I think all of the new big three will have a decrease in numbers and I just don't see the NBA giving it to LBJ or Wade. They'll win the most games, but Wade is going to just as valuable as Bosh and LBJ, which makes it difficult to give it to one of them. Wade and LBJ will be in top ten though all year.

Kobe has a chance, but I really think it is Durant. Lakers will have a great record, but Kobe's 28pts 5RBs and 5ASTs may not be enough statistically.

We will see.

I vote Durant.

ayuntalo
07-10-2010, 11:36 PM
tmac is on the 2nd runner up..
few more solid games and he'll snag the MVP lol

the_jon
07-10-2010, 11:47 PM
Andrea Bargniani

JordansBulls
07-11-2010, 12:37 AM
I believe this will be Wade's year to win it.

VCaintdead17
07-11-2010, 12:53 AM
I'll go with the dark horse and say Deron Williams.

Also, really? Tmac? I honesty don't get how you're an NBA mod when you pull **** like that.

GOON MUSIC
07-11-2010, 12:57 AM
Honestly since im confident the heat will have that number 1 seed

i think the nucleus of that team will win it, so imma say Dwayne Wade

but only if they end up with the the best record and his stats are deserving enough

if not, i see kobe, durant or dwight

Cbast09
07-11-2010, 12:58 AM
I believe this will be Wade's year to win it.
I hope so. He deserves it.

Nowakm33
07-11-2010, 01:50 AM
Hands down, it will be Kevin Durant. The sky is the limit for him and it seems like hes only getting better and better.

Honorable Considerations: Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, LeChoke James.

static_inferno
07-11-2010, 02:09 AM
Durant. The media will never vote for Kobe again and they will make the argument that LeBron quit and is now a follower not a leader.

ChiSox219
07-11-2010, 02:10 AM
Durant or Dwight

-Big-Baby-
07-11-2010, 02:14 AM
Most likely Durant, Kobe, or D12 in that order.

Sadds The Gr8
07-11-2010, 02:18 AM
Bargnani

Jaji
07-11-2010, 02:22 AM
Ricky Rubio.

SMH!
07-11-2010, 02:25 AM
durantula

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-11-2010, 02:26 AM
T-Mac with 7 votes:facepalm:

gbrl
07-11-2010, 02:30 AM
voted durant but if heat end up having the best record this year then wade or lebron will be mvp

NBA-GMaster
07-11-2010, 02:45 AM
Kevin Durant!!

kArSoN RyDaH
07-11-2010, 03:51 AM
it cant be lebron wade or bosh. you know why? because for years they have been saying that if you take kobe off that team they still are a playoff team. well now if you take wade bosh or lebum off that team they still will be a playoff team. end of story. top 3 candidates become kobe kd and howard.

Fireworld
07-11-2010, 04:06 AM
Durant

cmellofan15
07-11-2010, 04:08 AM
no reason why McGrady should be losing.

Bruno
07-11-2010, 04:14 AM
Kobe-KD-Howard-Melo.

I don't see how James or Wade gets it- I think their contributions to the Heat will be equal and some of the voters who want to give it to a Heat player, if they have a great 65 win season will be split on who to give it too. The people who want to give it to a player from the Heat will be split, neither will get enough votes.

BkOriginalOne
07-11-2010, 04:36 AM
I understand the Durant MVP badwagon (scoring doesn't equal MVP)
But TMac.

Kobe is not going to win MVP because his team is too deep and the pressure off him is being lifted.
LBJ, Wade nor Bosh could be considered for the MVP.

MELO!

THE MTL
07-11-2010, 05:45 AM
I still think Lebron and Wade will get their stats regardless. Maybe not 30ppg but 27ppg lol (wats three points). Plus in order for the Heat to be great these guys still need to get their stats (which means they are playing well).

Anyway, I voted for Durant cause that team could possibly win 55-60 games next season which warrants an MVP from me.

However, with the league looking at records so much...it will probi be between Lebron and Wade.

Btw, I understand records are important but I dont think you neccessary have to have the best record in the NBA. If you raise the level of your team and still win many games (upwards of 50) you should get it. (Im referring to Chris Pail three years back when they had the second best record in the West)

The Raven
07-11-2010, 05:54 AM
I think its gonna be a 3 man race in Kobe, Durant, or Dwight

kArSoN RyDaH
07-21-2010, 03:55 AM
bump.

_KB24_
07-21-2010, 04:12 AM
Melo is going to win it. I really think this is his year

jackdawson
07-21-2010, 04:21 AM
Wade or LeBron or Kobe. Best player from the best team gets MVP. No other exceptions are accepted here (See Wade 2008-09 season record, deserved every way possible except his team record). Period.

DisturbedFTW83
07-21-2010, 04:22 AM
i love durant, but after Lebron winning it two times in a row, the champ has to dethrone the king. But it's going to be Kobe for MVP next year.

Out on a limb pick: I'd pick Dwight Howard.

Gators123
07-21-2010, 04:27 AM
Tracy ****ing Mcgrady? That is suppose to be a joke, right?

KNAN
07-21-2010, 04:53 AM
Durant has to be the favorite in my eyes, he will be carrying a team (not as stacked as Lakers or Heat) to the playoffs with a chance to go somewhere. I don't see Durant declining his numbers from last year and I think he is the 2nd best player in the league behind Kobe...

JordansBulls
07-21-2010, 09:06 AM
Tracy ****ing Mcgrady? That is suppose to be a joke, right?

Yes

bbblack40
07-21-2010, 09:12 AM
Is Amazing how much Wade is underrated in this league by the fans and media.

Minimal
07-21-2010, 09:13 AM
Still Lebron. It's obvious.

DaoudS
07-21-2010, 09:28 AM
Wtf is McGrady doing in that list?

I can't take this **** seriously seeing a name like Tmac in there.

lol yeah. I too refuse to vote.

NYY09
07-21-2010, 09:55 AM
Eddie Curry, I am certain of it, my sources have been right the whole summer.

MiamiWadeCounty
07-21-2010, 09:56 AM
lol at Tmac...doubt he'll even play 40games

ragee
07-21-2010, 10:03 AM
I voted Dwight but I think KD will have a great chance of winning it as well... No disrespect to Kobe, Lebron and Wade but their supporting cast will likely affect their chance of winning unless their team can put up one hell of record and beat or tie the Bulls'...

MiamiWadeCounty
07-21-2010, 10:08 AM
Durant has to be the favorite in my eyes, he will be carrying a team (not as stacked as Lakers or Heat) to the playoffs with a chance to go somewhere. I don't see Durant declining his numbers from last year and I think he is the 2nd best player in the league behind Kobe...
I think Durant can win it becuase his team sucks and he shoots every shot, but the rest is bullsh*t...really Durant is better than wade and lebron. Durant plays great defense right and gets lots of assists. And i like how you said Durant will be carrying a team with a chance to go somewhere. So basically you think OKC has even a chance to win the NBA title over lakers, heat, celtics, magic, spurs. Durant hasn't even led his team out of the first round. Remember that 35% fg percentage aginst the lakers in the playoffs. Of course you don't becuase everyone just looks at the 25ppg and thinks he is automatically a top 5 player

:facepalm:

Atownballa5
07-21-2010, 10:14 AM
Kd will get this one, the kid is dirty

hyb152
07-21-2010, 11:40 AM
You really can't count lebron out. I think once the season starts, we'll all be reminded just how unbelievable he is on the court, even if he's on a 3-star team.

HOZ THE KNICK
07-21-2010, 11:41 AM
durant or stat

Gibby23
07-21-2010, 11:45 AM
Yes

The T Mac thing might be a joke, but it is taking votes form other players. Your poll and thread are worthless.

JordansBulls
07-21-2010, 11:57 AM
durant or stat

Amare ain't winning MVP.

Gibby23
07-21-2010, 12:02 PM
Amare ain't winning MVP.

You made the thread and poll. You put Amare as an option. Don't tell people what you think is right or wrong, when you are the one asking for peoples opinion on this topic.

JordansBulls
07-21-2010, 12:16 PM
You made the thread and poll. You put Amare as an option. Don't tell people what you think is right or wrong, when you are the one asking for peoples opinion on this topic.

Yeah, I should have elaborated on it. Only way Amare wins MVP is if the Knicks win 55+ games.

KNAN
07-21-2010, 12:17 PM
I think Durant can win it becuase his team sucks and he shoots every shot, but the rest is bullsh*t...really Durant is better than wade and lebron. Durant plays great defense right and gets lots of assists. And i like how you said Durant will be carrying a team with a chance to go somewhere. So basically you think OKC has even a chance to win the NBA title over lakers, heat, celtics, magic, spurs. Durant hasn't even led his team out of the first round. Remember that 35% fg percentage aginst the lakers in the playoffs. Of course you don't becuase everyone just looks at the 25ppg and thinks he is automatically a top 5 player

:facepalm:

I was actually looking at the 30.1 ppg on near 48% shooting, 7.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.4 steals and 1 block per game with 90 percent free throws good...If he isn't a top 5 player, then I must not be reading this **** right...just sayin' Every team that goes to the playoffs has a chance to go somewhere, whether they do or not is up to them. Durant has only been to the playoffs one time, and that was against the 2 time Champion Lakers which if I remember correctly was taken to 6 games by Durant and the Thunder! Don't give me this he ain't led his team out of the first round yet, when he's only been there one time with many more to come....:facepalm:

kobe24>lebron23
07-21-2010, 12:58 PM
kobe will win it quote me on that lake show will have the best or second best record and kobes stats assist and rebounds will go up...

uws
07-21-2010, 01:16 PM
durrant is gonna tear it up

jdmd3
07-21-2010, 01:33 PM
Durant is the most likely to win it.

ragee
07-22-2010, 12:19 PM
Yeah, I should have elaborated on it. Only way Amare wins MVP is if the Knicks win 55+ games.

Let us see how good Amare is now that he doesn't have Nash anymore...

JordansBulls
07-22-2010, 12:41 PM
Let us see how good Amare is now that he doesn't have Nash anymore...

He doesn't need Nash. Nash needs him though.

IversonIsKrazy
07-22-2010, 03:13 PM
I see Durrant. But Rose can too, Bulls can go as high as #3. Rose avgd something like 22ppg 8apg after the month of December. With some shooters on the team, and a guy that can play pick-and-roll, I can see him avg 23ppg 8.5apg

But Durrant is my main choice, then Rose, then Kobe, then Wade, then Dwight.

JordansBulls
07-27-2010, 05:42 PM
I see Durrant. But Rose can too, Bulls can go as high as #3. Rose avgd something like 22ppg 8apg after the month of December. With some shooters on the team, and a guy that can play pick-and-roll, I can see him avg 23ppg 8.5apg

But Durrant is my main choice, then Rose, then Kobe, then Wade, then Dwight.

As much as I would like to see Rose win MVP, he will not have a shot for another 3-4 years.

Super.
07-27-2010, 05:52 PM
If Rose wins MVP, then Rondo musta won the position of God

drama1386
07-27-2010, 06:07 PM
voted for durant. kid is gonna be a beast this year...

What?
07-27-2010, 06:09 PM
Durant 32/8/4

What?
07-27-2010, 06:14 PM
It's a joke that Amar'e and Rose and Mcgrady have gotten 15% of the votes

97NYer
07-27-2010, 06:15 PM
Durant

GeekInThePink
07-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Kevin Durant for sure

tredigs
07-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Durant 32/5/5

5 boards + 5 assists? Nah. Boards are too low and assists a little too high for the cast he has I think.

32/8/3.5 with 1.5 stl + 1blk and %'s around 50/40/90 on a ~55 win HCA team are reasonable though.

With the sharing of MVP votes between LBJ + Wade on Miami's ~65 win team and Kobe's less impressive numbers than KD on a ~55-60 win team, that should be more than good enough for Durant to grab the trophy.

dRa1niNg_ 3s
07-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Voted for Kevin Durant i feel that the Thunder can be expected to finish top 4 in the west or compete till the final games for it. If the Thunder finish in the top 4 look for Durant to win it.

A feel good MVP would be McGrady helping out the young guys over in Chicago, its highly unlikely but if he just gave his final push of what ever he has he can impact that promising Bulls team.

LA_Raiders
07-27-2010, 06:21 PM
Kobe
Durant
Melo

I think after voter knew who Lebroom is, they going to show more love to the true king...

tredigs
07-27-2010, 06:23 PM
Voted for Kevin Durant i feel that the Thunder can be expected to finish top 4 in the west or compete till the final games for it. If the Thunder finish in the top 4 look for Durant to win it.

A feel good MVP would be McGrady helping out the young guys over in Chicago, its highly unlikely but if he just gave his final push of what ever he has he can impact that promising Bulls team.

haha... if Garnett wasn't given the nod with what he did to completely resurrect the Celtics franchise and alter their entire approach to defense (+ having far better relative numbers than what McGrady could dream of at this point), then the chance of that happening are none to none. But if you're a betting man, then put 20 on him now - the odds are probably 10,000 to 1.

jdub747
07-27-2010, 06:23 PM
I think Deron Williams can have a really strong push for MVP he's going to carry this team on his shoulders and his numbers are going to rise dramaticly, but as for the people saying Rose can win it i think you need to check yourself because that's not going to happen. i want D Will to win it but i honestly think the Durantula is going to win it

_KB24_
07-27-2010, 06:28 PM
I have a feeling Melo will win the scoring title finally and lead the Nuggets to a 57+win season and second in the West. That should garner some serious MVP consideration.

avrpatsfan
07-27-2010, 06:35 PM
Durant.

jdmd3
07-27-2010, 06:37 PM
Why in the world does T-Mac have more votes here than Dwight, CP3, & D-Will all combined???

brandt
07-27-2010, 06:37 PM
I hate stupid threads like this!!! Screw this coming year that hasn't even started yet, lets make predictions for 2015. How the **** does anyone even know? If anything, people are probably just going to vote for their favorite player since WE HAVE NO ******* IDEA!!!

tredigs
07-27-2010, 06:40 PM
I think Deron Williams can have a really strong push for MVP he's going to carry this team on his shoulders and his numbers are going to rise dramaticly, but as for the people saying Rose can win it i think you need to check yourself because that's not going to happen. i want D Will to win it but i honestly think the Durantula is going to win it

What about having a healthy Jefferson instead of Boozer makes you think a 6th years players numbers are going to rise dramatically? I see him having another great year -- 19/10/4 as far as the counting stats are concerned. But it's tough to imagine him taking too many MVP 1st place votes from Durant/Kobe/Wade+Lebron. Especially with Cp3 back in the picture and probably leading the league in assists + steals again.



I hate stupid threads like this!!! Screw this coming year that hasn't even started yet, lets make predictions for 2015. How the **** does anyone even know? If anything, people are probably just going to vote for their favorite player since WE HAVE NO ******* IDEA!!!

WOOOSA big fella, WOOOOSA. It's the off-season guy, this is the time for speculation and predictions. Chill.



Why in the world does T-Mac have more votes here than Dwight, CP3, & D-Will all combined???

Wow I just looked -- 13 votes for T-Mac?! HAHAHHA... wow. If he even averages 18/5/5 I would be FLOORED. There are going to be some disappointed Bulls fans out there if this is the kind of expectations they have for T-Mac's ghost.

brandt
07-27-2010, 06:58 PM
[QUOTE=tredigs;14321346]


WOOOSA big fella, WOOOOSA. It's the off-season guy, this is the time for speculation and predictions. Chill.

It's way to early to make that call. There is way to much talent in the NBA to make that decision right now, before even seeing anyone play. Even if it is just a prediction. Mid season is more like it. Someone could get hurt, have a bad year, etc... Why don't we go ahead and vote for the All Star Game as well, kind of like the MLB does? lol!!!

tredigs
07-27-2010, 07:04 PM
It's way to early to make that call. There is way to much talent in the NBA to make that decision right now, before even seeing anyone play. Even if it is just a prediction. Mid season is more like it. Someone could get hurt, have a bad year, etc... Why don't we go ahead and vote for the All Star Game as well, kind of like the MLB does? lol!!!

Then don't read. The other 170+ voters and comment-ers wanted to give their input, nobody cares if you're not interested. Bounce.

BkOriginalOne
07-27-2010, 07:14 PM
No Love for Melo, the guy is playing in a contract year.

brandt
07-27-2010, 07:15 PM
Yes Maam, Mom! Apparently you DO care or you wouldn't have responded. Double Bounce B***

TaylorMays
07-27-2010, 07:20 PM
i hate t-mac but i picked him becaus ethat is quite possibly one of the stupidest choices to put on there. you could have at least put yao just so the rockets have someone

BKNets21
07-27-2010, 07:27 PM
:laugh2:

I know JB loves McGrady, but seriously...

Geargo Wallace
07-27-2010, 07:29 PM
JB would put McGrady on the list

momoneyyyy
07-27-2010, 07:30 PM
dirkkkkkkk!!!! why is mcgrady up there?

patsspurscubs
07-27-2010, 10:15 PM
D-Wade will have a statline of 28.5ish ppg/6.5ish apg/5.5ish rpg/1.5ish spg/1.5ish bpg and win his first MVP

JordansBulls
07-28-2010, 01:04 AM
D-Wade will have a statline of 28.5ish ppg/6.5ish apg/5.5ish rpg/1.5ish spg/1.5ish bpg and win his first MVP

I can see that especially if the Heat win 65+ games.

XxigglesphanxX
07-28-2010, 01:43 AM
these damn bulls fans and tmac :facepalm:

Enemey
07-28-2010, 02:04 AM
Kobe will lead the Lakers for best record in the NBA and win MVP

tredigs
07-28-2010, 02:14 AM
Kobe will lead the Lakers for best record in the NBA and win MVP

Gasol*. I'm a little tired of seeing "Laker" fans give Kobe all the credit for a team who's best player is Pau Gasol these days.

John Walls Era
07-28-2010, 02:17 AM
Wade and Kobe will get their votes, but the scoring champion of 2010-11 will win it: Kevin Durant.

B.JenningsMVP
07-28-2010, 02:17 AM
Gasol*.

Steve Blake*.

B.JenningsMVP
07-28-2010, 02:18 AM
I'm a little tired of seeing "Laker" fans give Kobe all the credit for a team who's best player is Pau Gasol these days.

:facepalm: :down:
haha

yanksknicksgmen
07-28-2010, 02:19 AM
T-Mac? really. Anyway I voted Durant I can see him getting it, If not I would have to say Kobe

_KB24_
07-28-2010, 02:27 AM
Gasol*. I'm a little tired of seeing "Laker" fans give Kobe all the credit for a team who's best player is Pau Gasol these days.

Your joking right......

tredigs
07-28-2010, 02:29 AM
:facepalm: :down:
haha

Gasol didn't lead the team in PER + regular season win shares (even while playing less games) + post-season win shares for no reason. His length and consistency was the biggest factor in getting that team to the finals + win it; definitely wasn't Kobe's 37% shooting in their Finals wins (something like 25% in the 4th quarters. Just a complete ghost). He gets the hype, and obviously he's a great player -- but Pau is the reason that team went from a perennial 1st round loser to back to back to back NBA Finals. The fact that you "facepalm" it is just more proof of how little credit he gets by the casual fan.

Kobe's their leader - and when he's on fire - their best player. But Pau is consistently great; a rational non Laker/Kobe fan could easily argue that he's as or more important to their success as Kobe.

Kobe had the LOWEST FG% in the finals for a finals MVP winner EVER. Lakers fans will spin that to be "but he contributes in so many other ways dude you dont even know hes the best!", but other people see that as a player where the hype supersedes his performance. Pau was their best player in the post-season, and for the last 5 months of the regular season.

NYK
07-28-2010, 02:46 AM
Kobe

Bishnoff
07-28-2010, 02:54 AM
Durant or Kobe.

I love the one vote for Nash (go Suns!)

John Walls Era
07-28-2010, 02:55 AM
There are only 3 candidates[right now]: Kobe, Wade, KD. Each one winning will depend on not only what they do, but what the other 2 do. Kobe will win if the Lakers have the best record in the league, ditto with Wade. However, KD would win if the Thunder have a top 3 record in the West regardless of what the Lakers or Heat finish with because everyone expects the Lakers and Heat to finish 1st.

MacFitz92
07-28-2010, 03:16 AM
The vote is now going to be swayed, because you put Tracy McGrady.

I think the only options you should have put on there was:
LeBron
Wade
Durant
Melo
Kobe
Dirk
Dwight
Deron
CP3

Anybody else really has no chance of winning it.

_KB24_
07-28-2010, 03:18 AM
Notice a significant difference? ... Me neither. Kobe doesn't make Pau better, but their games complement each others perfectly and with the ridiculously strong role players that the Lakers have - allow them to be contenders. Kobe might be the one pushing them in practice (while Fish is their floor leader), but Pau shows up and dominates day after day. Lose him, and that team is not a contender. Some Lakers fans should respect that more than they do.

The Lakers had the best record in the West in both 08 & 07 with Bynum in the lineup before he went out in January. They were contenders THEN without Pau. To say at this point, that the Lakers without Gasol are not contenders is even more foolish than saying it back then.

tredigs
07-28-2010, 03:19 AM
The Lakers had the best record in the West in both 08 & 07 with Bynum in the lineup before he went out in January. They were contenders THEN without Pau. To say at this point, that the Lakers without Gasol are not contenders is even more foolish than saying it back then.

The Lakers dominated this season with Kobe out, and the Cavs were a dominant regular season team. What is your point? This is about post-season teams and post-season matchups. CONTENDERS. Not "capable of beating most teams in the regular season" (two far different things).

Let's put it this way. If Pau goes down against the Thunder this year in the first round -- See ya. Kobe? Would've been hard, but not impossible if they exploited their length (their best asset). The team is HEAVILY reliant on Gasol being productive to make it through any playoff series.

Enemey
07-28-2010, 04:26 AM
Gasol*. I'm a little tired of seeing "Laker" fans give Kobe all the credit for a team who's best player is Pau Gasol these days.

:facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: If Pau is the best player on the Lakers that would make him the best player in the league because Kobe is the best player.

Enemey
07-28-2010, 04:32 AM
Gasol didn't lead the team in PER + regular season win shares (even while playing less games) + post-season win shares for no reason. His length and consistency was the biggest factor in getting that team to the finals + win it; definitely wasn't Kobe's 37% shooting in their Finals wins (something like 25% in the 4th quarters. Just a complete ghost). He gets the hype, and obviously he's a great player -- but Pau is the reason that team went from a perennial 1st round loser to back to back to back NBA Finals. The fact that you "facepalm" it is just more proof of how little credit he gets by the casual fan.

Kobe's their leader - and when he's on fire - their best player. But Pau is consistently great; a rational non Laker/Kobe fan could easily argue that he's as or more important to their success as Kobe.

Kobe had the LOWEST FG% in the finals for a finals MVP winner EVER. Lakers fans will spin that to be "but he contributes in so many other ways dude you dont even know hes the best!", but other people see that as a player where the hype supersedes his performance. Pau was their best player in the post-season, and for the last 5 months of the regular season.
Thats funny because MJ also had the Lowest FG% in a finals MVP winner in 1996 which was 41% before Kobe but does that take anything away anything from MJ ?
Your just a Kobe hater.

Enemey
07-28-2010, 04:42 AM
The Lakers had the best record in the West in both 08 & 07 with Bynum in the lineup before he went out in January. They were contenders THEN without Pau. To say at this point, that the Lakers without Gasol are not contenders is even more foolish than saying it back then.

Exactly

im ur fatha
07-28-2010, 04:49 AM
I Agree, Durant MVP

kobebabe
07-28-2010, 05:39 AM
why in the world is tmac in the list?

my guess is durant. he is a beast!

cmellofan15
07-28-2010, 05:59 AM
haha what a username.

DenButsu
07-28-2010, 07:57 AM
Gotta lol a little at the lopsided favoritism of Durant over Melo. Which is not to knock durant; he's a great player, obviously. But the disproportion of respect that he gets to Melo's lack thereof is pretty ridiculous.

Gators123
07-28-2010, 08:00 AM
Come on Bulls fans. You guys gave Rose 11 votes and left Boozer with 0 votes ;)

JordansBulls
07-28-2010, 08:29 AM
Gotta lol a little at the lopsided favoritism of Durant over Melo. Which is not to knock durant; he's a great player, obviously. But the disproportion of respect that he gets to Melo's lack thereof is pretty ridiculous.

I totally agree. But I also feel the same for Wade as well.

The Miami Cheat
07-28-2010, 08:42 AM
i say durant....especially if okc gonna win 50+ this year

Minimal
07-28-2010, 08:44 AM
Seriouslly wtf? Why is Durant so overrated?

S-Dot
07-28-2010, 08:45 AM
I feel silly for this, but I feel Melo will have an incredible MVP season this year. And my second vote would be Nash.

DenButsu
07-28-2010, 10:12 AM
I totally agree. But I also feel the same for Wade as well.

But don't you think the 3 in Miami will have a diluting effect on each other, stats-wise at least? LBJ and Wade already got theirs, so the league's not under any pressure to deliver it to them anymore. To me, for the time being, it would seem to be a race between lone stars, and Melo, CP3 and Durant emerge at the front of that pack, to me.

S-Dot
07-28-2010, 10:17 AM
But don't you think the 3 in Miami will have a diluting effect on each other, stats-wise at least? LBJ and Wade already got theirs, so the league's not under any pressure to deliver it to them anymore. To me, for the time being, it would seem to be a race between lone stars, and Melo, CP3 and Durant emerge at the front of that pack, to me.

Wade never won regular season MVP, but I agree that Melo would be the frontrunner. LeBron has the best chance of winning MVP on that Miami team because he can feel up a stat sheet. As long as he can average at least 27 ppg, and his team has the best record, his other stats should be pretty great as well.

Raidaz4Life
07-28-2010, 10:18 AM
Wade never won regular season MVP, but I agree that Melo would be the frontrunner. LeBron has the best chance of winning MVP on that Miami team because he can feel up a stat sheet. As long as he can average at least 27 ppg, and his team has the best record, his other stats should be pretty great as well.

kinky

DenButsu
07-28-2010, 10:28 AM
Wade never won regular season MVP

Truth, you got me. Shoulda been more specific. My larger point, though, and I think it still stands, is that since they've both received accolades, and are now ostensibly on a team-oriented team (such as the 2004 Pistons or 2008 Celtics), none of them will probably be glaring so brightly in the spotlight as an individual so as to put intense pressure on the league to honor them with the MVP award.

S-Dot
07-28-2010, 10:32 AM
Truth, you got me. Shoulda been more specific. My larger point, though, and I think it still stands, is that since they've both received accolades, and are now ostensibly on a team-oriented team (such as the 2004 Pistons or 2008 Celtics), none of them will probably be glaring so brightly in the spotlight as an individual so as to put intense pressure on the league to honor them with the MVP award.

:clap::clap::clap: I can agree with that. Neither LeBron or Dwayne would be seen as "Most Valuable" or "more" valuable than KD to the Thunder, Melo to the Nuggets, Nash to the Suns, etc. because those guys just mentioned are the only superstars on their respective teams. I see your point.

ackar
07-28-2010, 10:39 AM
I think this is Roy's year especially if he can get off to a great start and stop deferring and showcase his talent.

tredigs
07-28-2010, 07:46 PM
Gotta lol a little at the lopsided favoritism of Durant over Melo. Which is not to knock durant; he's a great player, obviously. But the disproportion of respect that he gets to Melo's lack thereof is pretty ridiculous.

Probably because Durant at 21 years old just had a better season than Melo has ever had man. He also separates himself from 'Melo in that he pushes himself on the defensive end, which doesn't hurt.

They're obviously a lot closer than the 66 to 6 would insinuate, but Durant was the better player last season, and should be going forward.

tredigs
07-28-2010, 07:58 PM
Thats funny because MJ also had the Lowest FG% in a finals MVP winner in 1996 which was 41% before Kobe but does that take anything away anything from MJ ?
Your just a Kobe hater.

Difference is that Pippen shot about 30% in that finals, and Michael was the clear alpha dog who was on the tail end of back to back 3 peats where he was the Finals MVP every time. Pau was very solid as usual in the finals; the two situations are not comparable. You're a standard Kobe jocker, but I don't expect anything less from the casual Lakers fan.

RulerSlick
07-28-2010, 08:19 PM
difference is that pippen shot about 30% in that finals, and michael was the clear alpha dog who was on the tail end of back to back 3 peats where he was the finals mvp every time. Pau was very solid as usual in the finals; the two situations are not comparable. You're a standard kobe jocker, but i don't expect anything less from the casual lakers fan.

:d

dre1990
07-28-2010, 08:33 PM
IMO, it will be a 2 man race with Kobe & Durant

DenButsu
07-28-2010, 09:02 PM
Probably because Durant at 21 years old just had a better season than Melo has ever had man. He also separates himself from 'Melo in that he pushes himself on the defensive end, which doesn't hurt.

They're obviously a lot closer than the 66 to 6 would insinuate, but Durant was the better player last season, and should be going forward.

You have got to be kidding me. (bolded part)

And I'd be interested to hear what you think constitutes KD's "better" season, keeping in mind that Melo was injured for much of his.

DenButsu
07-28-2010, 09:04 PM
And I'd like to also just shout out a general WTF at T-Mac getting 18 votes to Melo's 7.

Seriously. WTF?!?

Enemey
07-28-2010, 09:13 PM
Difference is that Pippen shot about 30% in that finals, and Michael was the clear alpha dog who was on the tail end of back to back 3 peats where he was the Finals MVP every time. Pau was very solid as usual in the finals; the two situations are not comparable. You're a standard Kobe jocker, but I don't expect anything less from the casual Lakers fan.

Pau Gasol struggled in Game 4 5 and 7 where as kobe struggled game 2 3 and 7 .

Kobe avg 28ppg 8 rpg while Pau avg 10 less points then him and grabbed 3 more rebounds so its clear who should be the MVP for the whole series and not just one game.

tredigs
07-28-2010, 09:26 PM
You have got to be kidding me. (bolded part)

And I'd be interested to hear what you think constitutes KD's "better" season, keeping in mind that Melo was injured for much of his.

You have got to be kidding me if you think that Melo puts out the effort or has the success that KD does on the defensive end. This isn't 2008, there were countless reports about how the kid worked on that tirelessly over the summer with specialty coaches, and it's paying dividends. Melo has always been indifferent on that side of the floor, and the opponents production against him prove it. Compare the two:
http://www.82games.com/0910/0910OKC.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910DEN.HTM

^That's about 40% better production that SF's had against Melo than they did Durant. Also look at the splits between their adjusted +/- ...they're not comparable.

KD averaged more points at a higher efficiency (.607 ts%) than Melo ever has in any year, let alone last year. His per-game steals were also better than anything Melo's reached, and his bpg (1) were twice Melo's all time best. His PER of 26.2 is 4 higher than Melo's best (last year at 22.2). And he had an Offensive rating of 118 to Melo's 110 (his best ever). I could keep going. Melo being consistently injured for about ~10-15 games the past 4 seasons doesn't exactly help his case, either.

Durant's better, dude. And he's 21 with a ridiculous work ethic to boot, he's only going to improve.


And I'd like to also just shout out a general WTF at T-Mac getting 18 votes to Melo's 7.

Seriously. WTF?!?

I have a feeling people are just making fun of t-mac being up there by choosing him. As for JB putting him there (based on rumors that he may be a Bull), I'm not so sure...




Pau Gasol struggled in Game 4 5 and 7 where as kobe struggled game 2 3 and 7 .

Kobe avg 28ppg 8 rpg while Pau avg 10 less points then him and grabbed 3 more rebounds so its clear who should be the MVP for the whole series and not just one game.
Kobe shot something like 37% in their wins, and 25% in the 4th quarters in general. Far from the "dynamic clutch closer!" he's supposed to be. Pau scored less because Kobe was busy chucking, plain and simple; They should have isolated him in the post more than they did. I think Kobe averaged something around 5 TO's a game, too. He wasn't the best player in that series, or in the playoffs in general. But I'm done arguing about this - it has nothing to do with the original post and it's not as if any of this will get through to you anyways.

Enemey
07-28-2010, 09:48 PM
You have got to be kidding me if you think that Melo puts out the effort or has the success that KD does on the defensive end. This isn't 2008, there were countless reports about how the kid worked on that tirelessly over the summer with specialty coaches, and it's paying dividends. Melo has always been indifferent on that side of the floor, and the opponents production against him prove it. Compare the two:
http://www.82games.com/0910/0910OKC.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910DEN.HTM

KD averaged more points at a higher efficiency (.607 ts%) than Melo ever has in any year, let alone last year. His per-game steals were also better than anything Melo's reached, and his bpg (1) were twice Melo's all time best. His PER of 26.2 is 4 higher than Melo's best (last year at 22.2). An Offensive rating of 118 to Melo's 110 (his best ever). I could keep going. Melo being consistently injured for about ~10-15 games for the past 4 seasons doesn't exactly help his case, either.

Durant's better, dude. And he's 21 with a ridiculous work ethic to boot, he's only going to improve.



I have a feeling people are just making fun of t-mac being up there by choosing him. As for JB putting him there (based on rumors that he may be a Bull), I'm not so sure...




Kobe shot something like 37% in their wins, and 25% in the 4th quarters in general. Far from the dynamic clutch closer he's supposed to be. Pau scored less because Kobe was busy chucking, plain and simple. I think Kobe averaged something around 5 TO's a game, too. He wasn't the best player in that series, or in the playoffs in general. But I'm done arguing about this - it has nothing to do with the original post and it's not as if any of this will get through to you anyways.

Kobe shot pretty well in game 1 and game 6 in the wins like I said the only games he shot poorly was games 2 3 and 7 . In games 4 and 5 no one else showed up if Pau showed up in that game there would have been no game 7 and Kobe would have still been the clear favorite to win MVP.

TEXASTITAN
07-28-2010, 11:55 PM
Who will be the 2010-2011 MVP?

I cannot believe you put tmac in the poll bulls......Seriously fanboy much? Switch out tmac for someone who's actually going to play a full season it's ok tmac still knows you love him.

Minimal
07-29-2010, 08:51 AM
Everyone thinks Durant or Kobe... But in the end it will be again Lebron.