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Ty Fast
07-08-2010, 09:45 PM
Will they win 73 or more games now?

JordansBulls
07-08-2010, 09:46 PM
No, but they will have HCA throughout.

lamar2006
07-08-2010, 09:46 PM
68

lamar2006
07-08-2010, 09:47 PM
but who cares Mavs won 67 and didnt win squad

black1605
07-08-2010, 09:47 PM
65+

djred532
07-08-2010, 09:48 PM
They'll win somewhere between 65-70 and then lose to Boston in the playoffs.

ackar
07-08-2010, 09:48 PM
This team is far from the BOS team that had Peirce, Rondo, Perkins & Big baby all they right now besides those three is Chalmers everyone stay come they still have to play the games.

ackar
07-08-2010, 09:49 PM
Oh the number of games 51 maybe... worse case 45.

Lost Art
07-08-2010, 09:49 PM
I'm going to say 53 games and 3rd best record in the east

DaddyCool
07-08-2010, 09:49 PM
It's not clear now. Lets see if they their vet min bench is servicable. And lets see who their other 2 starters are. Anything Celtics 08-esque and I think then definitely challange the single season win record.

marlinsfan24
07-08-2010, 09:50 PM
65-70

gbpackers12
07-08-2010, 09:51 PM
Who's coming off of the bench? Lebron, Wade and Bosh can't play 48 a night every single night. If they get a decent bench that's a 60+ win team. If even one of those guys goes down they take a huge hit. I hate this move for the NBA. I hope the Lakers wipe the floor with these guys. :pity:

pistonsfanomg
07-08-2010, 09:53 PM
This team is far from the BOS team that had Peirce, Rondo, Perkins & Big baby all they right now besides those three is Chalmers everyone stay come they still have to play the games.

:facepalm:

NickyNick
07-08-2010, 09:53 PM
cant win without a bench...id say 55 games

would of done better in chicago....much deeper team

Penetra8r
07-08-2010, 09:54 PM
I think they will win 58 games

ldc62
07-08-2010, 09:55 PM
If Bosh and Lebron went to Bulls they woulda won 75+.

I'm thinking around 65

Canterbury
07-08-2010, 09:55 PM
60+

m26555
07-08-2010, 09:56 PM
They'll win somewhere between 65-70 and then lose to Boston in the playoffs.
I'll say 55-60 and then lose to Boston.

MacFitz92
07-08-2010, 09:56 PM
59

LakersOrNothing
07-08-2010, 09:56 PM
They'll be up in the 65's for sures.

Robbw241
07-08-2010, 09:56 PM
64 wins

infernoscurse
07-08-2010, 09:57 PM
how are all my miami heat fans doing, it feels like it was 10 minutes ago that i became a hardcore miami heat fan

HiphopRelated
07-08-2010, 09:58 PM
This team is far from the BOS team that had Peirce, Rondo, Perkins & Big baby all they right now besides those three is Chalmers everyone stay come they still have to play the games.
you know Rondo and Perkins were scrubs right?

dwadefan03
07-08-2010, 09:58 PM
82-0

Ryan328
07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
52 to 55.

kswissdaf
07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
With raja and mike miller and all those vets 70-78

heathonater
07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
65-70 games. can make up for a less than stellar bench fairly easy by having 2 of the top 3 players on the same team.

nyy27
07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
15-67

RAptorsNExtYeaR
07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
So what if this turns out to be liek to be like the 2003-2004 lakers??

What if they get upset next year by LA, Orlando, Boston or any other team?

they can't sign anymore free agents with each salary growing.

What would they need to do, and how would it affect the NBA if they did not win?

fadedmario
07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
The Heat will win 76 games in the 2011-12 season. Everyone on here saying they will suck is just mad. I hate Lebron but the Heat will dominate for at least the next 6 years.

Slimsim
07-08-2010, 10:00 PM
82

KnicksorBust
07-08-2010, 10:00 PM
Whoever goes to Miami is going to immediately becoming twice as good as before. I'm a firm believer that if Perkins and Rondo had been on some scrub team for the first few years of their careers that they would not have reached the heights that they did. Great leaders make their teammates better. I say Miam wins 62 games off the bat and I'm not sure about their playoff chances yet. I hate to say it but LeBron made the right decision. His guaranteed ring is in Miami. It probably was in Chicago too but it definately was in Miami.

0nekhmer
07-08-2010, 10:00 PM
they wont ****ing lose

IndiansFan337
07-08-2010, 10:00 PM
No, but they will have HCA throughout.

You can't predict these things until you see who they fill out their roster with.

They don't even have enough players under contract to dress for an NBA game.

AllTimeBest
07-08-2010, 10:01 PM
They won't get upset. The Celtics and LA will be favorites over them.

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:01 PM
fire the coach

dre1990
07-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Ask in October

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:01 PM
They won't get upset. The Celtics and LA will be favorites over them.

:speechless:

Lakers4ItAll
07-08-2010, 10:02 PM
I will laugh @ Lebron

infernoscurse
07-08-2010, 10:02 PM
lets go yankees and lets go heat!

m26555
07-08-2010, 10:02 PM
:speechless:
They're the defending conference champions. Why wouldn't they be?

Miami hasn't even played a GAME together yet...my Lord.

Geargo Wallace
07-08-2010, 10:04 PM
60-70 for sure

MIKE&IKE's
07-08-2010, 10:04 PM
lets go yankees and lets go heat!

hmmmm, frontrunner?? havent seen any heat stuff on your sig before now :rolleyes:

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:05 PM
You can't predict these things until you see who they fill out their roster with.

They don't even have enough players under contract to dress for an NBA game.

dude do you really believe that they are not going to do their very best to get every possible player who available who'd mesh well with them. There are going to be fine.

camador22
07-08-2010, 10:05 PM
Im gona go with 68 wins

jrm2054
07-08-2010, 10:06 PM
It would be great

Marlins97and03
07-08-2010, 10:06 PM
60

camador22
07-08-2010, 10:07 PM
I think they will run through everyone including the Lakers

Johann
07-08-2010, 10:07 PM
may one of the 3 get injured...theyll win 51

Kyben36
07-08-2010, 10:07 PM
It would definitly be a disapointment, the top 2 players in the league on the same team (I say that because Kobe is on the decline ) and a top 10 PF. if they cant win a championship, there will be problems.

HoopsDrive
07-08-2010, 10:08 PM
Depends on the rest of the roster and assuming they get a decent bench, 60+ for sure. 1 injury to the wrong player and they will plummet a bit.

Penetra8r
07-08-2010, 10:08 PM
It might happen

dtmagnet
07-08-2010, 10:09 PM
I will dance the dance of life.

sNaKeS
07-08-2010, 10:09 PM
I could have sworn the Lakers won that game 7 guess I was wrong..... :rolleyes:

read before commenting.

He said conference champions not NBA champions.

lakers4sho
07-08-2010, 10:10 PM
I could have sworn the Lakers won that game 7 guess I was wrong..... :rolleyes:

read before commenting.

He said conference champions.


Oops ;)

JNA17
07-08-2010, 10:10 PM
it would probably happen, and it would be sweet

pa_superstar
07-08-2010, 10:10 PM
98

koreancabbage
07-08-2010, 10:10 PM
nothing, they are gonna try to get better every year, hopefully by year 3 they will win one.

MaHaRaJaH
07-08-2010, 10:11 PM
Get Phil Jackson

Giantwarrior
07-08-2010, 10:11 PM
60 games. they have a 3 superstars, but missing a Big Center and Solid Pint Guard. two really big holes.

m26555
07-08-2010, 10:11 PM
I could have sworn the Lakers won that game 7 guess I was wrong..... :rolleyes:

read before commenting.
I could have sworn I said conference champions; not NBA champions.

Read before commenting.

:rolleyes:

gcoll
07-08-2010, 10:11 PM
They're the defending conference champions. Why wouldn't they be?
They're not that good.

Robbw241
07-08-2010, 10:11 PM
I will laugh at them.

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:12 PM
He said conference champions.


Oops ;)

guess i was the one not reading.. :confused:

LkrLand
07-08-2010, 10:12 PM
I say around 50 games

m26555
07-08-2010, 10:12 PM
They're not that good.
Oh. Yeah; making the NBA Finals in two out of three seasons and winning once. They must be pretty mediocre.

mikantsass
07-08-2010, 10:12 PM
They won't get upset. The Celtics and LA will be favorites over them.

Dude the Celtics were underdogs in some of the games against the Heat THIS PAST YEAR. What makes you think they would be favored now?

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 10:12 PM
55-60 sounds right if everything clicks.

Kyben36
07-08-2010, 10:13 PM
all this talk of how great this team is, yet, they dont have anything close to a starting C. so strait up, who on that team can posibly stop Dwight. sure, there are ways to stop him as a team, but that leaves 3pt shooters wide open. I know everyone wants to fall in love with this team, but as of right now, they still have alot of holes to fill. Mario Chalmers isnt starting quality PG, and who is going to shoot, With Wade and Lebron being great at penetrating, what happneds when the D colapses, nobody on that team is a real threat from 3. Also, they are Benchless.

Keep celebrating Miami, but untill you figure out how to fill these holes, you are still not a championship contender if you ask me.

Philly 4 Life
07-08-2010, 10:14 PM
not more then da lakers

stuckinMJsHADOW
07-08-2010, 10:14 PM
wtf....michael wilbon says the heat will win 3 champs in 4 years...not next year but 3-4.....then goes on to say they wont three-peat...what am i missing?

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 10:14 PM
When it happens, Lebron will further show why he's not a true winner.

sNaKeS
07-08-2010, 10:14 PM
How do they plan on filling out the rest of their roster?

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:15 PM
55-60 sounds right if everything clicks.

if everything clicks you really expect them to win just 60?

:facepalm:

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:15 PM
but who cares Mavs won 67 and didnt win squad

Because the Bulls won 72 and won the whole thing

dre1990
07-08-2010, 10:15 PM
lets go yankees and lets go heat!

are you also a saints and blackhawk fan?

Bluffmasta
07-08-2010, 10:16 PM
i still doubt them winning in 2011 unless they pick up some players for real cheap to fill out the bench, do the heat after goign after the cap get an MLE cuz that would add another player this year, and then by year two add another making it a winner.

Niro
07-08-2010, 10:16 PM
they should just stop playing basketball..

Sixerlover
07-08-2010, 10:16 PM
They have LeBron James, D-Wade, and Chris Bosh. Who on Orlando will stop that?

Let's stop all the hate and madness for one second. They are OBVIOUSLY a championship contender, and that's why the rest of America is so upset.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:17 PM
Who's coming off of the bench? Lebron, Wade and Bosh can't play 48 a night every single night. If they get a decent bench that's a 60+ win team. If even one of those guys goes down they take a huge hit. I hate this move for the NBA. I hope the Lakers wipe the floor with these guys. :pity:
If they get a decent bench its 70+


I'm going to say 53 games and 3rd best record in the east

Are you predicting big time injuries?


cant win without a bench...id say 55 games

would of done better in chicago....much deeper team
lol, people overrate the bench. Since when was depth more important than star power?

kjoke
07-08-2010, 10:17 PM
they will....

phlp_bj
07-08-2010, 10:17 PM
does chalmers breakout like rondo?

Atownballa5
07-08-2010, 10:18 PM
i hope lebron doesnt win.

dtmagnet
07-08-2010, 10:18 PM
Lebron James took a crappy team to the finals on his own, they can fill out the roster with D-leaguers and still win the championship.

xabial
07-08-2010, 10:18 PM
They will trade LeBron James to the New york Knicks for salary cap space for role players. :D
Just kidding. lol

BradyIsTheMan12
07-08-2010, 10:19 PM
They have issues but having 2 of the top 3 players in the game and a top big can mask those issues..

pistonsfanomg
07-08-2010, 10:19 PM
Yall seriously think Miami going to lose a game

There will be players willing to take less to play and win a championship

Probably Nate, Rasheed will come out of retirement and so on.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:20 PM
LOL it would mean Bynum made that next step into a superstar cuz thats the only way the Heat arent winning

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 10:20 PM
If they get a decent bench its 70+



Are you predicting big time injuries?


lol, people overrate the bench. Since when was depth more important than star power?

The '04 Pistons say hello.

Slimsim
07-08-2010, 10:20 PM
I Would Blame KoBE

HabsFan87
07-08-2010, 10:20 PM
Glad its finally over, GO LAKERS!!!

ElMarroAfamado
07-08-2010, 10:20 PM
they are not winning it so people better get used to it...maybe in a couple years....

m26555
07-08-2010, 10:21 PM
LOL it would mean Bynum made that next step into a superstar cuz thats the only way the Heat arent winning
Or it would mean that the other nine guys on Miami's roster were D-League material.

pistonsfanomg
07-08-2010, 10:21 PM
They won't get upset. The Celtics and LA will be favorites over them.

:facepalm:

Philly 4 Life
07-08-2010, 10:21 PM
If they get a decent bench its 70+



Are you predicting big time injuries?


lol, people overrate the bench. Since when was depth more important than star power?

wat r u nuts, wen bron or 1 of dem get in foul trouble ur putten a nobody in, if 1 gets hurt a nobody has to play for them for however long they hurt...if da celtics bench isnt like it is this nba finals doesnt even go 7 games last year

NYYankeesWin#27
07-08-2010, 10:22 PM
hope kobe hits a game winning 3 in lebrons face in game 7

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 10:22 PM
if everything clicks you really expect them to win just 60?

:facepalm:

Yeah, they're bench is going to be non-existent and to make matters worse, to keep Wade, Bosh, and Lebron happy will be pretty hard.

m26555
07-08-2010, 10:22 PM
lol, people overrate the bench. Since when was depth more important than star power?
Oh really? So if one of them tears their ACL or gets into foul trouble in a huge game, no big deal, right?

ElMarroAfamado
07-08-2010, 10:23 PM
they are not winning a title so it doesnt matter

ruslan898
07-08-2010, 10:23 PM
They'll sign Mike Miller. If not, they'll trade Beasley to Philadelphia for Kapono.

pistonsfanomg
07-08-2010, 10:23 PM
if everything clicks you really expect them to win just 60?

:facepalm:

lol he's a typical lakers fan :rolleyes:

mikantsass
07-08-2010, 10:24 PM
all this talk of how great this team is, yet, they dont have anything close to a starting C. so strait up, who on that team can posibly stop Dwight. sure, there are ways to stop him as a team, but that leaves 3pt shooters wide open. I know everyone wants to fall in love with this team, but as of right now, they still have alot of holes to fill. Mario Chalmers isnt starting quality PG, and who is going to shoot, With Wade and Lebron being great at penetrating, what happneds when the D colapses, nobody on that team is a real threat from 3. Also, they are Benchless.

Keep celebrating Miami, but untill you figure out how to fill these holes, you are still not a championship contender if you ask me.

Wow Bulls fans are starting with the jealousy. It hasnt even been a full hour

ChiSox219
07-08-2010, 10:25 PM
If they get a decent bench its 70+



Are you predicting big time injuries?


lol, people overrate the bench. Since when was depth more important than star power?

Morey predicted what, 45 wins for the heat with the trio?

As a lifelong Bulls and Phil Jackson fan, I can tell you exactly how important a bench is.

Sixerlover
07-08-2010, 10:25 PM
And lets be clear, ALL of those 2nd round picks they drafted will benefit immensely from this superfriends cast. They'll all shock many people.

bulldog312
07-08-2010, 10:25 PM
I don't think the problem is Howard for the Magic. It is Gasol and Kobe for the Lakers. They are still the favorites IMO. Maybe not 2-3 years down the road (when Miami can use its exceptions), but definitely for now. They have the role players and depth needed to win.

kswissdaf
07-08-2010, 10:26 PM
keep hatin

nanablvd
07-08-2010, 10:26 PM
Lebron is the sidekick to Wade. I hope Lebron will never get Finals MVP.

KnicksorBust
07-08-2010, 10:26 PM
The '04 Pistons say hello.

:laugh: You name one team in the history of the sport. It's the exception not the rule. Also that Pistons team had 4 All-Stars in their 5 man starting lineup and not much else. Not the greatest example. That's still top heavy. Corliss Williamson led the Pistons in MPG off the bench during the playoffs and he only played 15mpg. They were top heavy too. Bench isn't ****. Any role player can play 10-15 minutes.

Niro
07-08-2010, 10:27 PM
i say 69

Gators123
07-08-2010, 10:27 PM
Just because your a bulls and your mad that LeBron didn't go to Chicago doesn't mean you have to rain on Miami's parade.

B2theRY
07-08-2010, 10:27 PM
they dont need a real PG

LBJ will play some pG

KnicksorBust
07-08-2010, 10:27 PM
Morey predicted what, 45 wins for the heat with the trio?

As a lifelong Bulls and Phil Jackson fan, I can tell you exactly how important a bench is.

Smells like a sig bet. Let me know if you have any interest.

camador22
07-08-2010, 10:28 PM
Everyone thought the same of Boston. They all thought just 3 stars aren't enough. Rondo was a nobody the first year and they still got it done. These 3 are far better then those 3. Role players will get open looks and will only have to hit spot up jumpers

dtmagnet
07-08-2010, 10:28 PM
They can easily win 70, in fact if they don't they will be complete failures.

Raph12
07-08-2010, 10:28 PM
It really depends on who they put around those guys...

thescore53
07-08-2010, 10:29 PM
to tell you the truth. i felt bad when bosh left but now since lebron left...........

Raph12
07-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Then they still have x amount of years to try again and again... x = number of years Lebron+Wade+Bosh sign for.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:29 PM
I wish my team had these problems

Lost Art
07-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Who else is under contract with the Miami Heat?

xabial
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
i am pissed. lol.
I feel bad for Cavs fans.
I feel bad for myself

Maintain87
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
Lebron James took a crappy team to the finals on his own, they can fill out the roster with D-leaguers and still win the championship.

Then when he tried to do it with a good team he was unsuccessful this really makes sense..... Team has no depth......

HiphopRelated
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
Oh really? So if one of them tears their ACL or gets into foul trouble in a huge game, no big deal, right?
if Kobe tears an ACL then what?

listing worst case scenarios isn't the way to base an argument

kjoke
07-08-2010, 10:31 PM
same issues boston had when the 'little' 3 came in, only difference is that these players are younger

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:32 PM
The '04 Pistons say hello.
Explain, I won alot of money that series. Or do you think those 2 were more star power than the Pistons? You would have a point if the Pistons had won without Sheed but the minute they added him (more star power) they became the better squad. Added to the fact that Malone was injured and its easy to see why the Lakers lost.

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:33 PM
does chalmers breakout like rondo?

hells no! LeBron is going to be running that offense Chalmbers is just filling a roster spot.

Cali.Empire
07-08-2010, 10:33 PM
They are not going to win the championship.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:33 PM
wat r u nuts, wen bron or 1 of dem get in foul trouble ur putten a nobody in, if 1 gets hurt a nobody has to play for them for however long they hurt...if da celtics bench isnt like it is this nba finals doesnt even go 7 games last year
Too many iffs, if the Celtics had more star power they wouldnt need 7 games to beat the Lakers. For example replace the Celtics bench+Pierce with Bron and a bunch of bums, those Celtics win the title.

SugeKnight
07-08-2010, 10:33 PM
dexter pittman is gonna be raw, so is desean butler

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 10:34 PM
:laugh: You name one team in the history of the sport. It's the exception not the rule. Also that Pistons team had 4 All-Stars in their 5 man starting lineup and not much else. Not the greatest example. That's still top heavy. Corliss Williamson led the Pistons in MPG off the bench during the playoffs and he only played 15mpg. They were top heavy too. Bench isn't ****. Any role player can play 10-15 minutes.

Your telling me the bench isn't ****? How about the retro Celtics busting up my Lakers back in the day? The Lakers sure as hell had the better star power with Kareem, Magic, and Worthy compared to really Bird and the much less "stars" Parish and Mchale. They had the deeper team. How about the Sonics getting ****ed over countless times with GP and Kemp with the Nuggets being the biggest of their failures. Or the Warriors man-handling the much better Mavs? You can't win without a great bench that produces.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:34 PM
Yeah, they're bench is going to be non-existent and to make matters worse, to keep Wade, Bosh, and Lebron happy will be pretty hard.

LMFAO your REALLY reaching

Kevj77
07-08-2010, 10:34 PM
They'll sign Mike Miller. If not, they'll trade Beasley to Philadelphia for Kapono.No way Miller takes the vet min. He turned down the full MLE from the Lakers.

Heat will use the entire cap just getting 3 max players under contract. They don't have the MLE this season because they were under the cap. Not even sure they are the best team in the East, but they are a contender now.

HabsFan87
07-08-2010, 10:34 PM
Feel so bad for them. Imagine Chris Bosh being Steve Nash. That's what we're talking about here. Probably worse. These players have broken so many hearts, it's unreal. The fact it might have been premeditated makes it gut-wrenching

hype707
07-08-2010, 10:34 PM
they wont win next year

ManRam
07-08-2010, 10:34 PM
They will fill up their bench really well. Just look at Boston a few years ago. Everyone doubted they could find enough depth, and they did...easily.

This team will be better than that. They'll get guys like Jason Williams, they'll get some other vets.

I think they'll win 65-68 games.

PBG
07-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Explain, I won alot of money that series. Or do you think those 2 were more star power than the Pistons? You would have a point if the Pistons had won without Sheed but the minute they added him (more star power) they became the better squad. Added to the fact that Malone was injured and its easy to see why the Lakers lost.

"04 pistons" and "stars" shouldnt be in the same sentence.

zambo4president
07-08-2010, 10:35 PM
They won't win ****. LeBron needs to be spurned. No rings for you Bronny.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Oh really? So if one of them tears their ACL or gets into foul trouble in a huge game, no big deal, right?
Of all the responses your takes the cake. If Kobe/Pau is injured the Lakers dont stand a chance at winning the title either. So your basically proving how important star power is, atleast in comparison to role players

HoopsDrive
07-08-2010, 10:36 PM
I wish my team had these problems

Agreed...

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 10:36 PM
Explain, I won alot of money that series. Or do you think those 2 were more star power than the Pistons? You would have a point if the Pistons had won without Sheed but the minute they added him (more star power) they became the better squad. Added to the fact that Malone was injured and its easy to see why the Lakers lost.

Dude, you know the Lakers had the "star power" going into that series. It was quite embarrasing actually. Shaq, Kobe, Malone, and GP against the Pistons featuring Rasheed and Ben as their biggest stars. Chauncey wasn't really a superstar and Rip was sure in hell not a star until after the series.

nanablvd
07-08-2010, 10:37 PM
I have a question, if the Heat want Mike Miller and Raja Bell, and if both players demand more than veteran's minimum, which is the type of contracts that the team can only offer now, does that mean they can only get them through sign and trade using Beasley? Is it the only route they are allowed to pursue?

marlinsfan24
07-08-2010, 10:37 PM
I think the Magic will have a counter move coming up.

Cali.Empire
07-08-2010, 10:37 PM
Or it would mean that the other nine guys on Miami's roster were D-League material.

It might be.

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:37 PM
Morey predicted what, 45 wins for the heat with the trio?

As a lifelong Bulls and Phil Jackson fan, I can tell you exactly how important a bench is.
Morey lied to Bosh.

Wade and decent team can get to .500

Give him Bron and Bosh, and your lying to yourself if you think he only wins 4 extra games.

Swashcuff
07-08-2010, 10:37 PM
Agreed...

Agreed

ruslan898
07-08-2010, 10:37 PM
No way Miller takes the vet min. He turned down the full MLE from the Lakers.

Heat will use the entire cap just getting 3 max players under contract. They don't have the MLE this season because they were under the cap. Not even sure they are the best team in the East, but they are a contender now.

True. They can still trade for Kapono..

Nikeman
07-08-2010, 10:38 PM
I agree we may have problems, but the Celtics figured it out, and so can we.

Difference?

Wade>>>>>>>Allen
LBJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pierce
KG>Bosh

We have a better trio.

Anyone playing with them, will see many open looks down low.

As far as Howard, we may not be able to stop Howard, but nobody in the league can stop Wade and LBJ, maybe Bosh

mlisica19
07-08-2010, 10:39 PM
I don't think they will win... The championship. Anything short of winning one for them now is utter dissapointment for their coach, team, fans and each of the big three FA. Anyone who says there guaranteed/they will buldoze every team is ignorant. Anything can go wrong. Any 3 of them can get greedy, at any point. Is dwade playing point this means? If not who will? This is not the dynasty bulls here, the heat basically signed the best 3 guys thinking it will be the best team. But this team is lacking something and most importantly its a great leader on the court and a great coach off it. Plus now that they all signed both boston and la will be looking for players to stop their team. Which they don't need much. Rondo is underrated and gets better each passing year, allen is one heck of a smart player and talented shooter but best of all garnett is back to his prime and pierce is still very valuable. Can dwade, james, bosh and a bench of nobodies beat them? Maybe in regular season but series, ill bet my money they will lose. Now let's talked back to back champs? Artest, kobe, gasol. Artest can stop any of those 3. Gasol and bynum can destroy bosh and even if kobe can't stop james, but I think he can, then they will work as a team to overcome them. A great team goes beyond 3 players it goes beyond 5

heattiltheend94
07-08-2010, 10:39 PM
let's just compare '06 to now

06

Williams
Wade
Walker
Haslem
Shaq

10

Chalmers
Wade
LeBron
Bosh
pittman?

no comparison

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:40 PM
"04 pistons" and "stars" shouldnt be in the same sentence.

Thats the kind of thinking that led to "Lakers in a Sweep". But maybe star power was the wrong word.

ccugrad1
07-08-2010, 10:40 PM
Won't agree they have problems. LeBron, D-Wade, and Bosh, if you average up their PPG from last season, score 80.3 PPG. If their other 9 guys on the roster can chip in 20-30 PPG, and if they keep Chalmers and Beasley that should be easy to do, they will EASILY be the #1 seed in the East and win EASILY 65+ games.

PBG
07-08-2010, 10:41 PM
i smell a whole lot of zone defense against miami now. make them jump shooters and they win maybe, MAYBE 50 games.

ChiSox219
07-08-2010, 10:41 PM
Morey lied to Bosh.

Wade and decent team can get to .500

Give him Bron and Bosh, and your lying to yourself if you think he only wins 4 extra games.

Maybe...

Just speaking from experiance, I thought (it's public record, laugh all you want) the Lakers could win 70 games this season because they were so loaded and had the only coach that could do it. Look how that turned out...

Bill Simmons made a lot of great points on this issue today and while I don't think Lebron will to score to the point he's going 6-24, I just wonder how in the hell Miami will rebound with and defend bigger teams.

blah-blah
07-08-2010, 10:42 PM
75-7

blah-blah
07-08-2010, 10:42 PM
i smell a whole lot of zone defense against miami now. Make them jump shooters and they win maybe, maybe 50 games.

lol!!!

MG3
07-08-2010, 10:43 PM
but who cares Mavs won 67 and didnt win squad

I believe it's squat

Blazers#1Fan
07-08-2010, 10:43 PM
all this talk of how great this team is, yet, they dont have anything close to a starting C. so strait up, who on that team can posibly stop Dwight. sure, there are ways to stop him as a team, but that leaves 3pt shooters wide open. I know everyone wants to fall in love with this team, but as of right now, they still have alot of holes to fill. Mario Chalmers isnt starting quality PG, and who is going to shoot, With Wade and Lebron being great at penetrating, what happneds when the D colapses, nobody on that team is a real threat from 3. Also, they are Benchless.

Keep celebrating Miami, but untill you figure out how to fill these holes, you are still not a championship contender if you ask me.

Shaq MLE-BIGZ MLE-Iverson MLE-MCGRADY MLE-MIKE MILLER MLE-FELTON MLE-ALSTON POSSIBLY MLE-HASLEM MLE

i dont see why ne of these players wont sign for MLE NBA CHAMPIONS FOR THE NEXT 3-7 years

SHAQ/BIGZ/ROOKIE
BOSH/HASLEM/ROOKIE
JAMES/MCGRADY/ROOKIE
WADE/IVERSON/MILLER
FELTON/CHALMERS/ALSTON

KnicksorBust
07-08-2010, 10:43 PM
Your telling me the bench isn't ****? How about the retro Celtics busting up my Lakers back in the day? The Lakers sure as hell had the better star power with Kareem, Magic, and Worthy compared to really Bird and the much less "stars" Parish and Mchale. They had the deeper team. How about the Sonics getting ****ed over countless times with GP and Kemp with the Nuggets being the biggest of their failures. Or the Warriors man-handling the much better Mavs? You can't win without a great bench that produces.

I don't even know where to begin and after all that LeBron nonsense I'm not even in the mood. :laugh: Agree to disagree.


They will fill up their bench really well. Just look at Boston a few years ago. Everyone doubted they could find enough depth, and they did...easily.

This team will be better than that. They'll get guys like Jason Williams, they'll get some other vets.

I think they'll win 65-68 games.

Sam Cassell, James Posey, and PJ Brown all for the vet min. PG / defensive wing / bigman with the snap of a fingers. By the time the season rolls around they'll be 8-9 deep and we'll be shaking our heads and saying damn they did it. Then give them a MLE exception next year to fill out that starting 5 properly and I see them winning the title in 2012. Their first of somewhere between 2-4 titles... unless of course the Knicks get Carmelo to team with Amar'e and Gallinari. :D

Ill21
07-08-2010, 10:43 PM
i will say 55-60 just because they wont have a bench and lose in the ECF to the Magic.

KG21
07-08-2010, 10:44 PM
I'm loving this :)

Miami just showed his true colors for the next season...
Haters need to get a tissue and wipe out those tears and shut their potty mouth cuz all they can do now is...MOAN!

Miami brought some excitement to the game and this is GOOD!

Big 3 on a rise ladies and gent's :)

zezak
07-08-2010, 10:45 PM
i smell a whole lot of zone defense against miami now. make them jump shooters and they win maybe, MAYBE 50 games.

WTF, DWade with a piss of **** team won 47, yet you add Bosh and Lebron they only manage to win 50 games?

Allot of teams would love to have Miami's problems now....

Blazers#1Fan
07-08-2010, 10:46 PM
75-7

yep they break the old bulls record nobody in the east can beat em maybe the hawks the C's or maybe the magic nobody else has a chance over there on the west portland beat LA during the season i think it was 3-1 or somthen alot of people forget so LA,MAVS,POR only ones with a chance

Kevj77
07-08-2010, 10:46 PM
Shaq MLE-BIGZ MLE-Iverson MLE-MCGRADY MLE-MIKE MILLER MLE-FELTON MLE-ALSTON POSSIBLY MLE-HASLEM MLE

i dont see why ne of these players wont sign for MLE NBA CHAMPIONS FOR THE NEXT 3-7 years

SHAQ/BIGZ/ROOKIE
BOSH/HASLEM/ROOKIE
JAMES/MCGRADY/ROOKIE
WADE/IVERSON/MILLER
FELTON/CHALMERS/ALSTONMLE is what 5.8 mil not sure how you can get al those players with 5.8 mil. You only get one MLE not as many as you want. By the way the don't have the MLE anyways they where under the cap. MLE is only for teams above the cap. All they got is the vet min not going to happen.

jetsforever
07-08-2010, 10:47 PM
The Heat will have the first ever, perfect regular season in NBA history.

Houston_Heat
07-08-2010, 10:47 PM
hahaha let the hate commence. Is this kid who started this thread the biggest moron on earth? He thinks that a team with Wade, Bosh, AND LEBRON!!!!!!!!!!! (couldn't hold my enthusiasm) couldn't stop 1 Dwight Howard? Really? You think that Howard, a crappy playoff performer in Rashard Lewis, and an old Vince Carter, can beat Wade, Bosh, AND LEBRON??? Comeon man, you're wack. Like somebody said before, Lebron took a horrible Cleveland team with 1/8 the starting talent and same mediocre bench to the playoffs every year. Keep hating you wack Orlando fan, because LEBRON AINT NEVER COMING TO ORLANDOOOOOOOOO

:laugh2::dance:

Gators123
07-08-2010, 10:47 PM
65 wins

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:48 PM
Dude, you know the Lakers had the "star power" going into that series. It was quite embarrasing actually. Shaq, Kobe, Malone, and GP against the Pistons featuring Rasheed and Ben as their biggest stars. Chauncey wasn't really a superstar and Rip was sure in hell not a star until after the series.
What do you mean, what exactly changed about Rip that you didnt realize going into the series? Look by star power I didnt mean popularity. Going into that series I had put all of my faith into the Pistons, and collective star power of their team had everything to do with it. Kobe and Shaq without Malone and a rapidly declining GP arent my idea of star power, not when compared to the lineup the Pistons could boast.

I see no such comparison to these Heat. The Heat with these 3 boast the greatest collection at the top 3 Ive ever seen. I said that about the Lakers with Pau/Bynum at full healthy but this is ridiculous.

To a team like the Lakers that depth is the only chance you guys have, that and hoping Bynum takes that next step and that Kobe and the bench doesnt decline.

PBG
07-08-2010, 10:48 PM
WTF, DWade with a piss of **** team won 47, yet you add Bosh and Lebron they only manage to win 50 games?

Allot of teams would love to have Miami's problems now....

you think all 3 will be able to shoot 50% every night? play a zone defense and yea, maybe one of them will drop 40 on you, but at least you exposed their biggest weakness.

Jonathan2323
07-08-2010, 10:49 PM
Championship.

stunt515
07-08-2010, 10:49 PM
whoever this person is saying lets go heat and lets go yankees is the biggest frontrunner i have ever seen. get off your knees

Chronz
07-08-2010, 10:51 PM
Maybe...

Just speaking from experiance, I thought (it's public record, laugh all you want) the Lakers could win 70 games this season because they were so loaded and had the only coach that could do it. Look how that turned out...

Bill Simmons made a lot of great points on this issue today and while I don't think Lebron will to score to the point he's going 6-24, I just wonder how in the hell Miami will rebound with and defend bigger teams.
The Lakers had the talent to win 70, Im in full agreement with that. But any and every forecast model depends on the health of the Big3. Without any one of them the team becomes .500 again unless they get some decent help. But so long as these 3 are healthy, assuming anything less than 50 is hating.

Like this, with everything going wrong this team wins 50, with the big 3 reasonably healthy they win 60+, with decent support 70+

blastmasta26
07-08-2010, 10:52 PM
About 65. I think they'll challenge the single season record the following year, after they can fill out their roster more. Next offseason they should be able to get a great bargain at the MLE like the Lakers with Artest.

zambo4president
07-08-2010, 10:52 PM
Anywhere between the 2nd and 4th seed. In the 50ish win neighborhood. Bounced in the 2nd round.

DaNtHeMaN628
07-08-2010, 10:52 PM
65+, next year 70+

lakersfan211
07-08-2010, 10:53 PM
63

zambo4president
07-08-2010, 10:53 PM
whoever this person is saying lets go heat and lets go yankees is the biggest frontrunner i have ever seen. get off your knees

:clap: Nice first post. Welcome to PSD.

DaNtHeMaN628
07-08-2010, 10:53 PM
oh yeah...and championship

ChiSox219
07-08-2010, 10:54 PM
The Lakers had the talent to win 70, Im in full agreement with that. But any and every model depends on the health of the Big3. Without any one of them the team becomes .500 again unless they get some decent help. But so long as these 3 are healthy, assuming anything less than 50 is hating.

Which organization is more talented right now, 09-10 Laker or 10-11 Heat?

unleashthebeast
07-08-2010, 10:54 PM
we are gonna whoop some ***, dont worry about wins, they will come

Philly 4 Life
07-08-2010, 10:54 PM
Too many iffs, if the Celtics had more star power they wouldnt need 7 games to beat the Lakers. For example replace the Celtics bench+Pierce with Bron and a bunch of bums, those Celtics win the title.

well dat means dat da lakers are a good team if they overcame dat bench nd da celtics, nd o0o wait wat happened 2 lebron nd his cavs (who are far from bums by the way) wen dey played da celtics o0o yea they got ****en smoked dat series dats right

PBG
07-08-2010, 10:56 PM
well dat means dat da lakers are a good team if they overcame dat bench nd da celtics, nd o0o wait wat happened 2 lebron nd his cavs (who are far from bums by the way) wen dey played da celtics o0o yea they got ****en smoked dat series dats right

theres like 45 ds in your post...

Sadds The Gr8
07-08-2010, 10:58 PM
82-0. They'll be the greatest team to bless the universe in all of professional sports, and Bosh, Wade, and James will make their own religion and become gods that will be worshiped around the world.

Mc Lovin
07-08-2010, 10:58 PM
Will they win 73 or more games now?

Absolutely not. There's still only so many touches each player is going to get know that they are playing with two other superstars. I see them getting bounced in the Eastern Conference Semis.

Jaji
07-08-2010, 11:00 PM
theres like 45 ds in your post...

:laugh:

jackdawson
07-08-2010, 11:01 PM
70+ this year. Next year 75+.

Jaji
07-08-2010, 11:02 PM
82-0. They'll be the greatest team to bless the universe in all of professional sports, and Bosh, Wade, and James will make their own religion and become gods that will be worshiped around the world.

A little bitter about Bosh leaving the Raps? :eyebrow:

Sadds The Gr8
07-08-2010, 11:03 PM
A little bitter about Bosh leaving the Raps? :eyebrow:

of course

gocubs2118
07-08-2010, 11:03 PM
I'll say 65 wins this year. It will take them some time to get used to playing with each other. They will lose some games early on in the season that they probably shouldn't for that reason.

Mc Lovin
07-08-2010, 11:03 PM
They're the defending conference champions. Why wouldn't they be?

Miami hasn't even played a GAME together yet...my Lord.

Exactly. And besides Lebron, Wade, and Bosh they only have Chalmers and Beasley under contract. That's 5 players and no money. They gonna have to fill their roster wit undrafted free agents and D-leaguers.

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 11:04 PM
If the Bulls can land a solid shooter like Mike Miller or call me crazy and go for a guy like Arenas, they can certainly be the best team in the East. I'm still saying Rose is the best young PG in the league and their frontcourt is looking fairly good ATM. They still have money to spend and if they can get that semi-star wing player, (TMAC, Arenas) or a shooter like Miller, they will have one of the most complete teams in the NBA. I certainly think they can compete with the Heat if they land a good wing player.

bomber0104
07-08-2010, 11:05 PM
no championship

D1JM
07-08-2010, 11:05 PM
82-0. They'll be the greatest team to bless the universe in all of professional sports, and Bosh, Wade, and James will make their own religion and become gods that will be worshiped around the world.

so he is going to be like diego maradona with his own religion dedicated to them?

_KB24_
07-08-2010, 11:07 PM
What do you mean, what exactly changed about Rip that you didnt realize going into the series? Look by star power I didnt mean popularity. Going into that series I had put all of my faith into the Pistons, and collective star power of their team had everything to do with it. Kobe and Shaq without Malone and a rapidly declining GP arent my idea of star power, not when compared to the lineup the Pistons could boast.

I see no such comparison to these Heat. The Heat with these 3 boast the greatest collection at the top 3 Ive ever seen. I said that about the Lakers with Pau/Bynum at full healthy but this is ridiculous.

To a team like the Lakers that depth is the only chance you guys have, that and hoping Bynum takes that next step and that Kobe and the bench doesnt decline.

:laugh:

Damn Chronz, our chances aren't looking so good the way your portraying them :laugh2:

You do realize we're going for a 3-peat and have dealt with all the PRE-tenders these past 2 years right? First it was the Nuggets would beat us, then it was the Cavs, the Magic, the Suns at one point, and then the Celtics.

MattColby
07-08-2010, 11:10 PM
Their plane goes down the first road trip and they have to rebuild their whole team.

xbrackattackx
07-08-2010, 11:10 PM
They will get put out in the ECF.

BkOriginalOne
07-08-2010, 11:11 PM
60-65 games and a lost in the ECF or Finals.

The rest of the NBA will not let this new team just for a superpower to dominate for the next 5 seasons. Other power houses will form.

MattColby
07-08-2010, 11:12 PM
theres like 45 ds in your post...

I was trying to figure out if he was making fun of someone or if that was serious.

last stand
07-08-2010, 11:16 PM
if the lakers are 100% healthy then the lakers will win the title

IF and we all know who the IF is for. mr. bynum. bynum when 100% is the 2nd best center in the NBA and probably the best offensive center in the league

while the heat will lose to a fully healthy boston team. if fully healthy

sNaKeS
07-08-2010, 11:22 PM
if the lakers are 100% healthy then the lakers will win the title

IF and we all know who the IF is for. mr. bynum. bynum when 100% is the 2nd best center in the NBA and probably the best offensive center in the league

while the heat will lose to a fully healthy boston team. if fully healthy

This. The only teams in the west that I can see when fully healthy that have a shot at beating the lakers are the thunder and blazers but those are big "if's". The lakers are still too damn big for just about any team out there (and the heat are not one of those teams)

mynameismo
07-08-2010, 11:40 PM
They'll need to find someone to guard MR.HOWARD first.

Fireworld
07-08-2010, 11:48 PM
60+ but they'll lose in the conference finals. The LeBron curse hits Miami.

HT9Canada
07-09-2010, 12:09 AM
83 wins.. not including playoffs.. (their team will win tha allstar game for the east too)

... seriously 72-10

Melo15
07-09-2010, 12:11 AM
They will come in 2nd during the regular season but lose in the Conference Semifinals, its a team game and the Heat won't be able to have a solid team the first year these 3 are playing together. It's going to take more than one year for this team to mesh because their styles don't go together particularly well. Boston was unique in the sense that their big 3 all fit each other perfectly and thats not the case with this Heat team.

TheChairman88
07-09-2010, 12:47 AM
Shaq MLE-BIGZ MLE-Iverson MLE-MCGRADY MLE-MIKE MILLER MLE-FELTON MLE-ALSTON POSSIBLY MLE-HASLEM MLE

i dont see why ne of these players wont sign for MLE NBA CHAMPIONS FOR THE NEXT 3-7 years

SHAQ/BIGZ/ROOKIE
BOSH/HASLEM/ROOKIE
JAMES/MCGRADY/ROOKIE
WADE/IVERSON/MILLER
FELTON/CHALMERS/ALSTON


FYI Miami doesn't have a MLE and each team only gets one MLE so any of these players would have to sign for for the veteran minimum which is 1.35m with 10 +years not 5.8m as well Haslem would have to sign for 1.22M and Felton for under 1M (992000) and he would be turning down deals starting at 8M+ at 26 and which is not happening with the rumors surrounding the nba collective agreement also Miller is looking at deals starting around 8M+ too

Mcgrady and Alston are most likely off your list

guys like Juwan Howard, Kwame Brown(6'11" C ), Primoz Brezec (7'1" C), Jonathan Bender, Tim Thomas, Kurt Thomas and Quentin Richardson are the type of veterans they are going to get

Young guys with something to prove and upside are Sean May (6'9" PF) (916000), Johan Petro (7' PF/C) (992000) and Shaun Livingston (6'7" PG) (992000) who might consider coming in for the min especially Livingston to run the point with these guys would have nothing to loose.

They also have 3 second round picks a C a PF and a SF who should be able to step in and contribute right away (DP)

PG - Chalmers/Livingston and or Alston
SG - Wade/Mcgrady/Livingston and or Richardson
SF - James/Mcgrady/ (DP)Butler
PF - Bosh/Beasley if Traded sign Howard or May/(DP)Varnado
C - Brezec/Brown or Petro /(DP)Pittman

Then you have young guys with something to prove and old guys with nothing to loose who have made there money

getting Back to the Thread this looks like roughly a 60 win team since it will take time to gel so like a 12-8 start and then 48-14 the rest of the way

ElMarroAfamado
07-09-2010, 01:00 AM
i dont remember if i posted in here haha but here i go

the Heat will make the playoffs and lose to the Celtics or Magic, whichever comes first.
Their will be drama. Wade Bosh and Lebron think "oh ray pierce and KG" did it why cant we?
Its going to be great to see them crumble before our eyes. The Celtics are saavy vets. The Heat immature premadonnas. Wait and See..

Chronz
07-09-2010, 10:47 AM
well dat means dat da lakers are a good team if they overcame dat bench nd da celtics, nd o0o wait wat happened 2 lebron nd his cavs (who are far from bums by the way) wen dey played da celtics o0o yea they got ****en smoked dat series dats right
LeBrons cavs lacked the star power to beat the C's, thank you for proving my point. AGAIN

Chronz
07-09-2010, 11:01 AM
:laugh:

Damn Chronz, our chances aren't looking so good the way your portraying them :laugh2:

You do realize we're going for a 3-peat and have dealt with all the PRE-tenders these past 2 years right? First it was the Nuggets would beat us, then it was the Cavs, the Magic, the Suns at one point, and then the Celtics.
Why are they bad, do you have no faith in Bynum taking that next step or do you doubt Kobes ability? I never said the Lakers are done, I was just trying to say that depth is more important to them than it is to the Heat because their top 3 is so strong (Basically a Gasol type player is their 3rd option). And that their only shot is if Bynum takes that next step which he could easily do. The Lakers of last year (With Bynum hobbled in the Finals) would not be my title favorite.

You do realize that your going for a 3-peat in part because the super team was yet to be created, you should take it as a compliment that this is what it took to stop the dynasty. Thats just how talented the Lakers are. They basically have Kobe and the greatest frontcourt a star has ever had. Your gonna need some serious star power to beat them at full health.


Also I NEVER said that about any of those inferior squads and would question the intelligence of anyone who had (Well aside from Cavs or biased team fans).

Chronz
07-09-2010, 11:12 AM
Which organization is more talented right now, 09-10 Laker or 10-11 Heat?

At full potential or what we know the Lakers end up looking like in the Finals and throughout the year? Like I was agreeing earlier, Lakers at full potential (Bynum-Pau-Kobe all healthy) with their supporting cast in place would be enough to win 70 IMO (Could you imagine how many games MJ would have won in Kobes shoes). The Heat can win that much if they some semblance of a decent cast. So Id take 2010 Lakers at full health barring the Heat getting Mike Miller and 1 decent big. But 2010Finals Lakers, I would take my BIG3 and bums

CowboysKB24
07-09-2010, 11:22 AM
Anything less than championship is so embarrassing. It is so pathetic that Wade would even want LBJ to play with him. A real super star... a real winner a real man would want the competition not play with it.

TheChamp
07-09-2010, 11:27 AM
A computer simulation had them going 66-16 but that was with Michael Beasley and no Mike Miller. Anyway the Heat just need a center and could look like this:

PG Wade
SG Butler
SF James
PF Bosh
C ??????

JetLi
07-09-2010, 11:37 AM
Let's say the Heat win a few titles over the next few years, there are going to be a few bench fillers, not everyone, but probably 4-5 guys who did nothing and can be traded for a bag of balls and hardwood polish with a few rings. How are those guys going to feel in the long run?

Question: "How does it feel to win your first ring?"
Response: "Well, I didn't play a minute all season, but I kept the bench smooth with my @$$ all season, and that should make it worth it."

Question: "How does it feel to have a (insert team name here) - trade for you after winning several rings with Miami?"
Response: "Well, I'm sure I can contribute, I did get to practice on time the last few years and I think I can still dunk, and I can bring the experience of practicing and watching LBJ, D-Wade, CB4. I never played with them in a game, but I helped keep them in shape for game time...."

Iron24th
07-09-2010, 11:38 AM
:facepalm: at peple who say 65-70 wins,more than 3 good players is needed to do that.

Look at the 3 last teams who have done that : Boston,Cleveland and L.A were much deeper.

heatking
07-09-2010, 11:56 AM
:facepalm: at peple who say 65-70 wins,more than 3 good players is needed to do that.

Look at the 3 last teams who have done that : Boston,Cleveland and L.A were much deeper.

Tell me when was the last time 2 of the top 3 players in the game were on the same team?

By the way... who did cleveland have other than the KING.