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JordansBulls
07-05-2010, 01:16 AM
Who has the higher trade value right now? Basically who would it costs more to get?

abe_froman
07-05-2010, 01:17 AM
cp3

toovey107
07-05-2010, 01:19 AM
Melo, but eh really too close to know.

robdizzle3
07-05-2010, 01:19 AM
Both are PTP'ers, like Dicky V would say, but I say Melo has more value right now. It also depends on which team is looking for you, but having a wing scorer like Melo is hard to come by. He's in the top 5 players list imo and he would get return like one.

seikou8
07-05-2010, 01:22 AM
melo can change a francise

Kyben36
07-05-2010, 01:33 AM
Neither, right now is a terrible time to trade a fanchise player, with all these teams with cap room, most you will probably get is a bunch of draft picks ( late, because your trading a franchise player who would make another team good enough to be a playoff team ) and cap room, you wont get any type of real tallent for them.

Best chance these guys had, was to trade their player for a high draft pick, along with a future pick. but since neither team did that, they will not get anything near face value for them.

Nets fan 93
07-05-2010, 01:35 AM
CP3 is the Hornets
Melo has a lot of talent around him like Billups, Nene, Smith, Martin

CP3.

knickfan4life
07-05-2010, 01:35 AM
cp3, cuz hes under contract for longer, teams cud possibly just be renting melo for one season where with cp3 its 2

rhino17
07-05-2010, 01:37 AM
probably about even

rhaas74
07-05-2010, 01:40 AM
Easily CP3. He has two years left on his deal before he can opt out, while Melo could possibly only be on your team for one year.

Catfish1314
07-05-2010, 01:43 AM
Paul is the better player but the thread asks right now.

Paul is coming off an injury plagued season and Melo just had the best season of his career.

So Anthony.

kEviN21
07-05-2010, 01:44 AM
Paul because Melo will only last a year.

xabial
07-05-2010, 01:47 AM
Paul is the better player but the thread asks right now.

Paul is coming off an injury plagued season and Melo just had the best season of his career.

So Anthony.

This.

Plus Paul had major surgery.

THE MTL
07-05-2010, 01:54 AM
Chris Paul is DEFINITELY the better player and is the ONLY person on the Hornets worth mentioning. Plus there are NO POINT GUARDS in the league that will give you 20pts-10apg...(Deron has yet to do it)

Melo has talent around him!!!

ChiSox219
07-05-2010, 02:04 AM
Pretty close if both 100% but CP3 had a major surgery that could jeopardize the length of his effective career.

IAmKira
07-05-2010, 02:24 AM
point guard league. CP3 ALL DAY

Giantwarrior
07-05-2010, 02:27 AM
Melo. no one can guard him.

cmellofan15
07-05-2010, 02:40 AM
Melo. when you look at the other SF's in the league you got LeBron, Durant, and Carmelo as the only elite ones and then it completely drops off. You still have guys like Rudy Gay and Danny Granger but small forwards are few and far between. A small forward is a more sought after player in this league because there are plenty of good young point guards and almost every good team has a guaranteed starter (with the exception of the Lakers).

_KB24_
07-05-2010, 02:51 AM
It's close. CP3 has the better upside but is coming off a major injury. Melo had an mvp type season, but epically collapsed in the playoffs and is older. I'd say Melo just based off last seasons play.

MacFitz92
07-05-2010, 02:57 AM
melo can change a francise

...and so can Chris Paul.

MacFitz92
07-05-2010, 03:01 AM
Melo. when you look at the other SF's in the league you got LeBron, Durant, and Carmelo as the only elite ones and then it completely drops off. You still have guys like Rudy Gay and Danny Granger but small forwards are few and far between. A small forward is a more sought after player in this league because there are plenty of good young point guards and almost every good team has a guaranteed starter (with the exception of the Lakers).

And when you look at the best PG in the league, you are looking at Chris Paul.

Wouldn't hurt you to throw in Boston's All-Time scorer in the mix either.

cmellofan15
07-05-2010, 03:05 AM
And when you look at the best PG in the league, you are looking at Chris Paul.

arguably the best point guard in the league. NOH were getting total crap offers from other teams because all they're looking to do is free up cap.

PrettyBoyJ
07-05-2010, 03:07 AM
CP3 bought the hornets from nothin in the 07-08 seaosn.. Nuggets havent been mentioned as contenders until they got Billups and went to the WCF.. Melo is a good player but CP can change a team

cmellofan15
07-05-2010, 03:14 AM
CP3 bought the hornets from nothin in the 07-08 seaosn.. Nuggets havent been mentioned as contenders until they got Billups and went to the WCF.. Melo is a good player but CP can change a team

before they had Melo the Nuggets were a 19 win team. They've made it to the Playoffs every year since. the Hornets have only made it twice since they got Chris Paul, if that's turning around franchise then him and Stephen Jackson are in the same boat.

BkOriginalOne
07-05-2010, 03:27 AM
CP3 is not going to carry a team the playoffs and in the playoffs the way that Melo can.
CP3 needs to be a passer to be great, Melo is simply the best offensive player in the NBA.

Most teams in the NBA would get better by having Melon on their Rosters.
To be fair, I'll list teams with no premiere PG or SF and award a point to each party.

Charlotte (Gerald Wallace is not premiere) - Melo makes them better than CP3 can
Cavs (Sorry Mo Will) - Melo Makes them better
Rockets (Sorry Brooks) - Debatable, but I would give the edge to Melo
Pacers - Chris Paul wins here
Kings - Melo
Pistons - Chris Paul
Grizzlies (Sorry Rudy) - Chris Paul
Wolves - Melo
Knicks - Debatable, but Melo under D'antoni is scary
Raptors - Chris Paul
Magic A virtual tie. (Personally I would say they need Melo's closing ability)
Sixers - Chris Paul
Blazers - Melo

Looks like Melo beats out Paul 8-6. And not by much.
What you can conclude is that they are equally valuable in that they are superstars, but Melo is as much as 10 percent more valuable.

rhaas74
07-05-2010, 06:36 AM
CP3 is not going to carry a team the playoffs and in the playoffs the way that Melo can.
CP3 needs to be a passer to be great, Melo is simply the best offensive player in the NBA.

Most teams in the NBA would get better by having Melon on their Rosters.
To be fair, I'll list teams with no premiere PG or SF and award a point to each party.

Charlotte (Gerald Wallace is not premiere) - Melo makes them better than CP3 can
Cavs (Sorry Mo Will) - Melo Makes them better
Rockets (Sorry Brooks) - Debatable, but I would give the edge to Melo
Pacers - Chris Paul wins here
Kings - Melo
Pistons - Chris Paul
Grizzlies (Sorry Rudy) - Chris Paul
Wolves - Melo
Knicks - Debatable, but Melo under D'antoni is scary
Raptors - Chris Paul
Magic A virtual tie. (Personally I would say they need Melo's closing ability)
Sixers - Chris Paul
Blazers - Melo

Looks like Melo beats out Paul 8-6. And not by much.
What you can conclude is that they are equally valuable in that they are superstars, but Melo is as much as 10 percent more valuable.

Just commenting on this from a Cavs perspective, I easily think CP3 would have a bigger impact than Melo. That would make it a 7-7 tie.

And as I stated before, you only have Melo for a year. Whereas you have Paul for at least two.

The Raven
07-05-2010, 06:42 AM
This.

Plus Paul had major surgery.

i actually didnt not consider that but, when thinking about it, you're exactly right. Surgeries can always be a pain when coming back so right now, Melo

magichatnumber9
07-05-2010, 07:20 AM
Its not even close to close, it's Melo by a mile

FrenchSunsFan
07-05-2010, 07:58 AM
I say Melo too

Raidaz4Life
07-05-2010, 08:10 AM
I honestly think its CP3

MacFitz92
07-05-2010, 08:12 AM
Its not even close to close, it's Melo by a mile

I'm interested in how one could argue that. Considering most people would say Chris Paul is the best point guard and Carmelo is the third best small forward.

pebloemer
07-05-2010, 08:30 AM
cp3, cuz hes under contract for longer, teams cud possibly just be renting melo for one season where with cp3 its 2

+1

JordansBulls
07-05-2010, 09:20 AM
Its not even close to close, it's Melo by a mile

How in the world is it not close?

Geargo Wallace
07-05-2010, 09:37 AM
I think Melo does but CP3 still has a greater impact on the game than Melo and should be worth more.

KnicksR4Real
07-05-2010, 09:46 AM
The both are the same so it's hard to decide. But I would say Melo just because the Hornets have one issues, this way Paul would be of a lesser value.

Raph12
07-05-2010, 10:02 AM
Melo, easily Melo.

dodie53
07-05-2010, 10:23 AM
melo

Kakaroach
07-05-2010, 11:17 AM
Isn't CP3 locked up for one more year than Melo? If so, its gotta be the guy who you can keep for longer. But with the way Hornets management has been treating the whole CP3 situation, I'll say Melo.

Chronz
07-05-2010, 01:57 PM
CP3 is not going to carry a team the playoffs and in the playoffs the way that Melo can.
CP3 needs to be a passer to be great, Melo is simply the best offensive player in the NBA.

Most teams in the NBA would get better by having Melon on their Rosters.
To be fair, I'll list teams with no premiere PG or SF and award a point to each party.

Charlotte (Gerald Wallace is not premiere) - Melo makes them better than CP3 can
Cavs (Sorry Mo Will) - Melo Makes them better
Rockets (Sorry Brooks) - Debatable, but I would give the edge to Melo
Pacers - Chris Paul wins here
Kings - Melo
Pistons - Chris Paul
Grizzlies (Sorry Rudy) - Chris Paul
Wolves - Melo
Knicks - Debatable, but Melo under D'antoni is scary
Raptors - Chris Paul
Magic A virtual tie. (Personally I would say they need Melo's closing ability)
Sixers - Chris Paul
Blazers - Melo

Looks like Melo beats out Paul 8-6. And not by much.
What you can conclude is that they are equally valuable in that they are superstars, but Melo is as much as 10 percent more valuable.

Disagree in bold

jrm2054
07-05-2010, 02:25 PM
I think they are both worth a ton but i think if CP3 is healty he brings more so has the higher value. Paul bring leadership amazing vision/passing scoring and defense. Melo just brings offense tons of it but just offense

AddiX
07-05-2010, 03:13 PM
Flip a coin, they are both insanely good. You can't even compare the two.

JordansBulls
07-05-2010, 03:22 PM
Disagree in bold

Who would you take?

Mudvayne91
07-05-2010, 03:38 PM
Flip a coin, they are both insanely good. You can't even compare the two.

Agreed. Comparing a PG to SF isn't really a good comparison.

I'm one of the biggest Melo fans, defended him with other Denver fans with all his boneheaded blunders (and there's been quite a few) and I'm still kinda shocked Melo is leading by this much over the poll. Given I did vote for Melo, but I'm just a huge homer when it comes to him. That being said, the only thing I could say that may hurt Paul's value is that he's openly said he's frusterated with the management. Melo may be in the same boat as Paul or just may want to leave, but he's gone a different way about it. Otherwise, I think Paul's value should at the very least be very close if not higher because as everyone else has said, Melo only has one year left.

AnthonyChi
07-05-2010, 03:39 PM
This is a really good question as I believe it is a very close match up though I think it is Melo. For the past several years we have seen a lot of different types of teams win it all but one thing remains constant and that is the best player on the team was not the point guard whether he was a passing guard or a scoring point guard. Point guards can lead your team to the playoffs but are not going to win it all. It's been seen with CP3, Nash, Drose, Kidd probably more. This could very easily be a case of too small a sample size and just an observation I have made in the league.

nuggetsyankees
07-05-2010, 03:45 PM
neither are getting traded so it's a pretty pointless thread

goose15
07-05-2010, 03:48 PM
very close... I'll go with Melo

Chronz
07-05-2010, 04:01 PM
How in the world is it not close?

by all objective measures its not close

JordansBulls
07-05-2010, 04:28 PM
by all objective measures its not close

Explain!!!

D Roses Bulls
07-05-2010, 04:39 PM
Who has the higher trade value right now? Basically who would it costs more to get?

melo because he is not coming off a injury

VinceCarter
07-05-2010, 04:45 PM
CP3. He's an elite PG. PG run teams. Too important.

hgtiger32
07-05-2010, 04:55 PM
the poll results are stupid. melo? i mean let's be honest, neither has won anything and are about even. Melo is a FA in 2011 and CP3 has a few more years left. with that being said it should be CP3 without a doubt. However, if Melo signs a contract guaranteeting more years then without a doubt he has the higher trade value...

VinceCarter
07-05-2010, 04:57 PM
Player Efficiency Rating is my overall rating of a player’s per-minute statistical production. The league average is 15.00 every season.

PERs for Paul vs Melo:
07-08 28.39 21.29
08-09 30.04 19.09
09-10 23.74 22.29

Paul has been better the last 3 years.
Paul's career high PER? 08-09: 30.04 Lowest? 06-07: 22.00
Melo's career high PER? 09-10: 22.29 Lowest? 04-05: 16.77

I really don't think that is close considering Paul is more consistent, a PG, and a year younger than Melo.

harm0n1x
07-05-2010, 05:15 PM
i'm pretty sure that new orleans came out and said they will not be trading cp3, so it would be melo.

cmellofan15
07-05-2010, 05:37 PM
PERs for Paul vs Melo:
07-08 28.39 21.29
08-09 30.04 19.09
09-10 23.74 22.29

Paul has been better the last 3 years.
Paul's career high PER? 08-09: 30.04 Lowest? 06-07: 22.00
Melo's career high PER? 09-10: 22.29 Lowest? 04-05: 16.77

I really don't think that is close considering Paul is more consistent, a PG, and a year younger than Melo.

oh yes the injured Chris Paul is a lot more consistent because he got his team to the playoffs a whopping 2 times!

JordansBulls
07-05-2010, 08:36 PM
i'm pretty sure that new orleans came out and said they will not be trading cp3, so it would be melo.

Nuggets said the same.

VinceCarter
07-05-2010, 08:41 PM
oh yes the injured Chris Paul is a lot more consistent because he got his team to the playoffs a whopping 2 times!

CP3 had who?? Melo had a talented supporting cast including a GREAT PG in Billups

PHX2daDEATH
07-05-2010, 08:59 PM
I think Paul is a great PG but it seems like everyone on here Over-rates him too much..The guy was injured most of the season.. sorry Deron Williams is the best point guard in the league right now and Nash is 2nd best.. If Paul comes out this season ..plays 78-82 games, does what he always does.. 20 points, 11 assists, 2 or 3 steals.. then yeah.. he's the best point guard again.. so with that I say Carmelo has higher value

Raph12
07-05-2010, 10:40 PM
It's not about who's the better player, it's about who's more desired atm. There are a lot of good PGs in the league, Melo is one-of-a-kind in the sense that he has the most compete offensive package in the league and is about as unstoppable as any other on that end. If you have a solid PG, you'd just be upgrading, if you don't have Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant or Roy, your team would get significantly better with the addition of Melo.

Plus with the financial situation of the Hornets, CP3 is more attainable than Melo.