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ManRam
07-01-2010, 02:51 PM
Gay spurns others, re-signs with Griz for $82 million

Two sources have told me that the Memphis Grizzlies are going to make the first major move in the Summer of 2010 free-agent bonanza by taking their emerging star small forward and restricted free agent Rudy Gay off the market, agreeing to terms with Gay on a five-year deal that could be worth a little more than $82 million.

The surprise decision came as Gay was prepared to start visiting teams Thursday. Gay had scheduled a visit Thursday afternoon in Minnesota with the Timberwolves, who had make no secret of their interest in the 23-year-old. But the Grizzlies contacted Gay's agents Thursday morning and said they now would be willing to match any offer sheet another team gave him. Gay then cancelled his trip to Minnesota.

The Grizzlies' decision came after owner Michael Heisley consulted with general manager Chris Wallace and other team officials. Memphis decided it made more sense to just pay Gay rather than wait for another team to come forth with an offer sheet that would have almost certainly included a front-loaded salary structure and signing bonus designed to make it harder for Memphis to match. Such front-loaded deals usually have language that forces the team looking to retain its player to write a huge up-front check for most of the player's first-year salary in the new deal.

Once Memphis made its offer, there was no incentive for him to look elsewhere, as the most any other team could offer him would be a five-year deal for around $78 million.

"I think Rudy likes Memphis a lot," a team source said Thursday, "and I think we were in a position to make the best offer to him. All of that helped us a lot ... if Rudy puts his mind to it he can be a real franchise player--if he puts his mind to it and brings that focus that people like LeBron (James) and Kobe (Bryant) have every night."

Gay averaged 19.6 points per game last season for Memphis, shooting a career-best 46.6 percent from the floor, helping keep the Grizzlies in the playoff chase until the final weeks of the regular season. He became Memphis' team leader and the club thought it was important to keep its core group of Gay, guard O.J. Mayo and center Marc Gasol together as long as possible.

The move is a major blow to teams that had cleared out maximum cap space in order to sign free agents. While Gay was not on the same tier as James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, he was a fall-back in case teams strike out with the top group of free agents, with several teams prepared to make offers. Gay's departure from the board means one less quality player will be available, especially one as young and with as much still-untapped potential as he has.

http://www.nba.com/news/features/aldridge.2010.freeagency//?ls=iref:nbahpt1

HT9Canada
07-01-2010, 02:52 PM
nba.com is saying 100m for 6years

Chinatownbiznes
07-01-2010, 02:52 PM
That's alot of money. 6 years 60 mill is what he should have got.

jcheefness23
07-01-2010, 02:53 PM
It's on NBA.com. No story yet or link yet...

Kakaroach
07-01-2010, 02:53 PM
Thats a max extension for Rudy Gay, wow. Good to know that the Grizz owner is spending at least.

Melo15
07-01-2010, 02:54 PM
Alot of teams fallback plans are going away, one of these teams are going to be left hanging by the end of free agency.

KB24PG16
07-01-2010, 02:54 PM
girzzles are underated with a nucleus of gay, mayo, and gasol they are one of the best upcoming teams in nba. good move by the grizz.

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Overpaid.

Hes not that good, but thats the market we live in in the NBA. That is the going rate for a "good" SF.

JordansBulls
07-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Link (http://www.journaltimes.com/sports/article_8a452abe-853b-11df-85cc-001cc4c03286.html)



In another NBA development, Memphis star forward Rudy Gay has accepted a max contact from the Memphis Grizzlies. Gay was one of the most coveted free agents on the market.

jimbobjarree
07-01-2010, 02:55 PM
good for him!

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 02:55 PM
girzzles are underated with a nucleus of gay, mayo, and gasol they are one of the best upcoming teams in nba. good move by the grizz.

Grizzlies lack a superstar. Mayo, Gay, & ZBO are "stars" but that doesn't always get the job done.

Stunner
07-01-2010, 02:56 PM
In Daily Dime Live, Stein says Gay supposedly agreed on 5 year 80 million dollar deal with Grizz.

That's Deng money lmao

LTBaByyy
07-01-2010, 02:56 PM
Maybe this is why RJ is opting out!!!!! Gay is staying, and 5 or 6 teams with big money that doesnt get lebron is gonna need a SF!!! bc after gay b4 RJ opted out is a big drop off

abe_froman
07-01-2010, 02:57 PM
way too much for him

abe_froman
07-01-2010, 02:58 PM
That's Deng money lmao

deng's is cheaper

5+7=DYNASTY!!!
07-01-2010, 02:58 PM
The Grizzlies overpaid IMO.

S-Dot
07-01-2010, 02:59 PM
NBA.com says 5 year $82 million right now. Still alot of money for this dude. He's good, but thats alot.

KB24PG16
07-01-2010, 03:00 PM
he wouldve walked if they give the max smart sign by grizz he can only get better hes not even in his prime yet not overpaid imo

arkanian215
07-01-2010, 03:00 PM
Maybe this is why RJ is opting out!!!!! Gay is staying, and 5 or 6 teams with big money that doesnt get lebron is gonna need a SF!!! bc after gay b4 RJ opted out is a big drop off

I agree. How many teams are in need to a proven scoring SF out of all the teams with significant cap space? Everyone except for the Knicks. RJ just may be in for a great pay day. If he can go to a more uptempo team, that'd be ideal for him.

Jays Claw
07-01-2010, 03:01 PM
He's going to receive a $100 million for six years?

The Grizzlies are most certainly going to overpay for him.

AI4MVP
07-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Rudy Gay is a ****ing boss. One of the most underrated players in the NBA

MagicBucsSox
07-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Overpaid.

Hes not that good, but thats the market we live in in the NBA. That is the going rate for a "good" SF.

^this

Kakaroach
07-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Yep, it is a max extension, just like I thought. Overpaid yes, but at least their keeping him.

ManRam
07-01-2010, 03:03 PM
Yup. It is 5 years, for 82 million. That's a lot of money, but it's great that Memphis is willing to spend. They are going to have Randolph and Gasol become FAs next year, but Randolph leaving could free up 17 million dollars. They won't be crippled at all by this signing.

KH12
07-01-2010, 03:03 PM
Thanks for making Luol Deng's contract more reasonable and appealing!

Robbw241
07-01-2010, 03:03 PM
RJ come home!!! for like 1 year

thenetslegend
07-01-2010, 03:06 PM
awwwwww man :mad:

Ray_R
07-01-2010, 03:07 PM
Rudy Gay is a ****ing boss. One of the most underrated players in the NBA

He went from most underrated to overpayed.

DaoudS
07-01-2010, 03:08 PM
He went from most underrated to overpayed.

lol pretty much. Can't hate on the guy for getting the money, but the CBA will need some reconstructing.

magichatnumber9
07-01-2010, 03:09 PM
Rudy is no longer underrated... I agree 100% ^

Stunner
07-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Thanks for making Luol Deng's contract more reasonable and appealing!

x2

S-Dot
07-01-2010, 03:10 PM
If they can keep him, Gasol, and possibly Mayo (I feel like he will leave for a bigger market), Memphis can be a decent team in the next years. But Rudy is getting alot.

NYKnickFanatic
07-01-2010, 03:11 PM
How Gay...hehe

AllTimeBest
07-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Really excited to see Vasquez and Henry on this young team.

DaBUU
07-01-2010, 03:12 PM
i wanted him to go to MN to play with Love

Thisisouryear!!
07-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Terrible deal, AWFUL

DaoudS
07-01-2010, 03:13 PM
how do memphis fans feel about this?

Kakaroach
07-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Would anyone else have really offered him a max though? Maybe, but the Grizz could have matched anyway.

tredigs
07-01-2010, 03:15 PM
I like Rudy a lot. He's only 23, and they had no shot at a top tier free agent coming to Memphis, so I fully understand paying him the max to get him through his prime. Did he "deserve" a max? No, probably not. But it was the right decision for Memphis to pay him that.

I'd like to see some more improvement in his game though. If he can get that 3p% closer to 40 than 30 he will be a much more deadly player.

ManRam
07-01-2010, 03:15 PM
Rudy Gay's signing has just caused ESPN.com to crash.

HAHAHAHA.

S-Dot
07-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Rudy Gay's signing has just caused ESPN.com to crash.

HAHAHAHA.

seriously??? Is the free agency that big that a Rudy Gay signing caused it to crash?

Stunner
07-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Rudy Gay's signing has just caused ESPN.com to crash.

HAHAHAHA.

lmao

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 03:18 PM
Terrible deal, AWFUL




Absolutely 100 % true! Stupid signing. Not even close to Iggy's abilities, and he got more money for 1 year less on the length. No way they keep Mayo now. He will be dealt eventually.

tredigs
07-01-2010, 03:18 PM
Rudy Gay's signing has just caused ESPN.com to crash.

HAHAHAHA.

HAH -- The Lebron + Bosh signing is going to be internet Armageddon.

mikantsass
07-01-2010, 03:19 PM
deng's is cheaper

But Gay is better

AllTimeBest
07-01-2010, 03:19 PM
how do memphis fans feel about this?


I like Rudy a lot. He's only 23, and they had no shot at a top tier free agent coming to Memphis, so I fully understand paying him the max to get him through his prime. Did he "deserve" a max? No, probably not. But it was the right decision for Memphis to pay him that.

I'd like to see some more improvement in his game though. If he can get that 3p% closer to 40 than 30 he will be a much more deadly player.

This. Lebron James or Dwayne Wade or Amare weren't coming to Phoenix. So they paid top dollar to keep an important piece to this young team, and then if they can start winning some of the top free agents may want to join the team.

ManRam
07-01-2010, 03:19 PM
The Lebron + Bosh signing is going to be internet Armageddon.

We will set a user record here, without a doubt whenever LeBron signs (Monday probably). The servers have been really good with all things considered.

But yeah...the internet is going to explode. Or implode. One of the two.

SluggeR
07-01-2010, 03:20 PM
Griz need to go get them point guard now.

abe_froman
07-01-2010, 03:21 PM
But Gay is better

not really

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 03:22 PM
:facepalm::speechless:
But Gay is better




Based on what ? The fact that Deng is a better 3 Pt shooter, better rebounder and gets more assists in LESS playing time. Not to mention a better defender. Besides ALL of that, yeah, Gay is better :facepalm::speechless:

pistonsfanomg
07-01-2010, 03:23 PM
gay is good but hes not worth that much lmao

D1JM
07-01-2010, 03:26 PM
that means minny might be interested in deng lol

tredigs
07-01-2010, 03:26 PM
We will set a user record here, without a doubt whenever LeBron signs (Monday probably). The servers have been really good with all things considered.

But yeah...the internet is going to explode. Or implode. One of the two.

By a wide margin -- and it would be higher if the servers wouldn't crash (which obviously they will).

Goodbye internet, you have been entertaining.

Tony_Starks
07-01-2010, 03:31 PM
Im glad to see that Memphis wasn't bluffing and finally put up the money. Its not like they didn't have it to spend. Gay, Mayo and Gasol are the core the other pieces just go around them.

The great part if you're a Grizzlies fan is these guys haven't even reached their full potential yet! If they can somehow get rid of Conley and get a legit PG then its all good!

KH12
07-01-2010, 03:32 PM
:facepalm::speechless:




Based on what ? The fact that Deng is a better 3 Pt shooter, better rebounder and gets more assists in LESS playing time. Not to mention a better defender. Besides ALL of that, yeah, Gay is better :facepalm::speechless:

Gay can throw down some sick dunks though!!!

topdog
07-01-2010, 03:32 PM
Free agency could end up being pretty boring, but it could set off a flurry of trades. The summer of discontent.

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 03:39 PM
Rudy Gay is better than Luol Deng. Bulls fans lay off that Luol Dengskeet skeet skeet.

Deng is a solid player but his average(by NBA SF standards) athleticism, lack of a creative handle, and lack of a consistent outside shot keeps him where hes at. His hype came solely from his upside that maybe he could develop that. Injuries clearly have changed the course and hes become a solid #3 option. What Deng lacks really is that he just doesn't have a quality that he excels at. Hes solid but he doesn't have a niche.

Rudy Gay on the other hand has Elite athletic ability(by NBA SF standards), he has a great first step that he uses to blow by his defender out of the triple threat position, and has shown the ability to knock down the 3 unlike Deng. Rudy's major problem is that he doesn't put his handle to use to create for others thus giving him the distinction of being a ballhog.

Both guys are overpaid. But that is the going rate for a "good not great" SF.

what54!?
07-01-2010, 03:41 PM
they kept Gay so memphis is set. I don't think gay will live up to his potential though

bleedprple&gold
07-01-2010, 03:43 PM
Way overpaid. They are gonna regret this and try to be trading his contract in a year or two, just watch...

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 03:47 PM
Rudy Gay is better than Luol Deng. Bulls fans lay off that Luol Dengskeet skeet skeet.

Deng is a solid player but his average(by NBA SF standards) athleticism, lack of a creative handle, and lack of a consistent outside shot keeps him where hes at. His hype came solely from his upside that maybe he could develop that. Injuries clearly have changed the course and hes become a solid #3 option. What Deng lacks really is that he just doesn't have a quality that he excels at. Hes solid but he doesn't have a niche.

Rudy Gay on the other hand has Elite athletic ability(by NBA SF standards), he has a great first step that he uses to blow by his defender out of the triple threat position, and has shown the ability to knock down the 3 unlike Deng. Rudy's major problem is that he doesn't put his handle to use to create for others thus giving him the distinction of being a ballhog.

Both guys are overpaid. But that is the going rate for a "good not great" SF.





Deng, Lack of a creative handle, lack of a consistent shot ? And what,,,Gay has these things ?


Gay..1.7 Assists...2.3 TO's a game.

Deng...2.2 assists....1.7 TO's a game.

And Deng's last 2 NBA seaons he's shot 38.8 and 40 % from the 3 Pt line. As where Gay is 32.7 and 35 %



So, tell me again about this, Creative Handle & Consistent shot thing again!

LTBaByyy
07-01-2010, 03:48 PM
But Gay is better

But gay is better hahahahaha i rather be straight

but the basketball player, yes.

Stunner
07-01-2010, 03:49 PM
Deng, Lack of a creative handle, lack of a consistent shot ? And what,,,Gay has these things ?


Gay..1.7 Assists...2.3 TO's a game.

Deng...2.2 assists....1.7 TO's a game.

And Deng's last 2 NBA seaons he's shot 38.8 and 40 % from the 3 Pt line. As where Gay is 32.7 and 35 %



So, tell me again about this, Creative Handle & Consistent shot thing again!

Not to mention Deng is one of the best mid -range shooting and rebounding SF in the league and a better defender than Gay jus saying. Gay is jus more Athletic than Deng and more explosive offense; but Deng has a better basketball IQ and all-around.

S-Dot
07-01-2010, 03:50 PM
with him and joe johnson apparently signing early, my knicks are running out of options if Plan LeBron doesn't work.

0nekhmer
07-01-2010, 03:51 PM
wow max? i think they could've used that money to get some cheaper players, but then again rudy is still young.

Big Quett
07-01-2010, 03:59 PM
:facepalm::speechless:




Based on what ? The fact that Deng is a better 3 Pt shooter, better rebounder and gets more assists in LESS playing time. Not to mention a better defender. Besides ALL of that, yeah, Gay is better :facepalm::speechless:

What? Deng shoots 31% from three's for his career. While Rudy shoots 34% how is that better? And Rudy only plays 1 minute more per game. And Deng only shoots .5% mpre assists. And Deng HAS to rebound more he dosnt have his 2 bigmen grabbing 22 rebounds a game. And he actually plays almost EVERY game. You can pencil Deng in for 15-20 missed games a year. While Rudy has only missed 10 games in 4 years. While Deng has missed 64 games the last 3 years.

And even bulls fan think Rudy is better. From a Bulls thread http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488462

Hellcrooner
07-01-2010, 04:00 PM
say bye bye to either MAYo or Marc Gasol.

both will command big bucks after the seqson iwich their owner does not want to waste.

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 04:05 PM
What? Deng shoots 31% from three's for his career. While Rudy shoots 34% how is that better? And Rudy only plays 1 minute more per game. And Deng only shoots .5% mpre assists. And Deng HAS to rebound more he dosnt have his 2 bigmen grabbing 22 rebounds a game. And he actually plays almost EVERY game. You can pencil Deng in for 15-20 missed games a year. While Rudy has only missed 10 games in 4 years. While Deng has missed 64 games the last 3 years.

And even bulls fan think Rudy is better. From a Bulls thread http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488462




Deng's career average is down cause early on he was brought down by a 20 nad 18 % And I know Deng doesn't even shoot them much, about 1 a game. But the last 2 years he has been better than Gay. Also, Gay was benefited by being on a horrible team where he padded his stats late in games that were Blow outs. As where Deng has been on a Bulls team that was either in the playoffs, or were close. So he was always facing tight defensive pressure.

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 04:10 PM
Deng, Lack of a creative handle, lack of a consistent shot ? And what,,,Gay has these things ?


Gay..1.7 Assists...2.3 TO's a game.

Deng...2.2 assists....1.7 TO's a game.

You do realize there is a difference between having a handle and being able to make good passes? Carmelo face up has the 2nd best handle of a player over 6'8 in the NBA. However that doesn't translate to assists because he hasn't shown the ability consistently to be a good passer.

Rudy's 1st step is deadly. Mix that with his athletic ability and hes a force you have to deal with.



And Deng's last 2 NBA seaons he's shot 38.8 and 40 % from the 3 Pt line. As where Gay is 32.7 and 35 %
Oh you mean in 08-09 when he attempted 20 3's and last season where he attempted 83 3's?

:laugh2:

If Luol Deng could shoot the 3 consistently he wouldn't take so few of them. Rudy has more range, and that doesn't mean I am saying he is the better shooter. He has more range and it allows him to take more 3's than Deng.

PrettyBoyJ
07-01-2010, 04:11 PM
this kinda changes a lot of things and might put a lot of players in High demand

pd7631
07-01-2010, 04:13 PM
There should seriously be some sort of prerequisites in place for a player to be worthy of a MAX contract.

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 04:14 PM
You do realize there is a difference between having a handle and being able to make good passes? Carmelo face up has the 2nd best handle of a player over 6'8 in the NBA. However that doesn't translate to assists because he hasn't shown the ability consistently to be a good passer.

Rudy's 1st step is deadly. Mix that with his athletic ability and hes a force you have to deal with.



Oh you mean in 08-09 when he attempted 20 3's and last season where he attempted 83 3's?

:laugh2:

If Luol Deng could shoot the 3 consistently he wouldn't take so few of them. Rudy has more range, and that doesn't mean I am saying he is the better shooter. He has more range and it allows him to take more 3's than Deng.





Best proof is in the Head! Head to head that is. Now in the 2nd game against the Bulls Deng was hurt. But in the first game...


Gay was 6-15 from the field. 1-4 from 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 1 assist and 3 TO's 2 Blocks and 17 Pts.


Deng...9-16 from the field...1-1 from the 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 0 TO's. 1 Block for 23 Pts.





END " O " Argument!!

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 04:14 PM
Also, Gay was benefited by being on a horrible team where he padded his stats late in games that were Blow outs. As where Deng has been on a Bulls team that was either in the playoffs, or were close. So he was always facing tight defensive pressure.

False.

Rudy Gay has been the #1 option on the Grizzlies for the last 3 seasons. It isn't OJ and it isn't ZBO. He has done this while playing without a PG his entire career. If you put Rudy on the Bulls, hes a better fit than Deng because hes the better overall player to Deng.

Deng has played 6 seasons and has been to the Playoffs 3 times. He got his big contract off of the 07' Playoffs.

Big Quett
07-01-2010, 04:15 PM
You do realize there is a difference between having a handle and being able to make good passes? Carmelo face up has the 2nd best handle of a player over 6'8 in the NBA. However that doesn't translate to assists because he hasn't shown the ability consistently to be a good passer.

Rudy's 1st step is deadly. Mix that with his athletic ability and hes a force you have to deal with.



Oh you mean in 08-09 when he attempted 20 3's and last season where he attempted 83 3's?

:laugh2:

If Luol Deng could shoot the 3 consistently he wouldn't take so few of them. Rudy has more range, and that doesn't mean I am saying he is the better shooter. He has more range and it allows him to take more 3's than Deng.
Exactly

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2010, 04:16 PM
NEWS FLASH:

MEMPHIS PAYS THEIR PLAYERS!


Good move Grizz.:clap: Keep from these "salary cap" teams from winning. Screw them for tanking and dumping players.

Big Quett
07-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Best proof is in the Head! Head to head that is. Now in the 2nd game against the Bulls Deng was hurt. But in the first game...


Gay was 6-15 from the field. 1-4 from 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 1 assist and 3 TO's 2 Blocks and 17 Pts.


Deng...9-16 from the field...1-1 from the 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 0 TO's. 1 Block for 23 Pts.





END " O " Argument!!
That is the end of the argument right there.:laugh2:
And the Grizz 2 - 0

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Best proof is in the Head! Head to head that is. Now in the 2nd game against the Bulls Deng was hurt. But in the first game...


Gay was 6-15 from the field. 1-4 from 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 1 assist and 3 TO's 2 Blocks and 17 Pts.


Deng...9-16 from the field...1-1 from the 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 0 TO's. 1 Block for 23 Pts.





END " O " Argument!!

You pointed out 1 game in which Rudy and took the W.

What happened in 2008?

Deng: 7-17 from the field....0-1 from the 3 PT line. 3 rebounds, 2 assists with 19 points and took the L.

Gay: 12-21 from the field...2-5 from the 3PT line. 4 rebounds, 2 assists with 29 points and took the W.


Gay ***** on Luol Dung.

Big Quett
07-01-2010, 04:32 PM
Best proof is in the Head! Head to head that is. Now in the 2nd game against the Bulls Deng was hurt. But in the first game...


Gay was 6-15 from the field. 1-4 from 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 1 assist and 3 TO's 2 Blocks and 17 Pts.


Deng...9-16 from the field...1-1 from the 3 Pt line. 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 0 TO's. 1 Block for 23 Pts.





END " O " Argument!!
That is the end of the argument. He is always hurt.:laugh2:
And you forgot to mention the Grizz went 2-0

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 04:38 PM
they kept Gay so memphis is set. I don't think gay will live up to his potential though

Of course not.
For his size and athleticism, he's a poor rebounder. He's a poor defender with that size and athleticism as well. He also has one of the worst A/TO ratio. And I'm really skeptical about his season this year since it was a contract year. He's a decent offensive player, but is inconsistent and as shown with his awful A/TO, he's a blackhole. Memphis panicked and really ****ed up with this one.
Good news as a Bulls fan though, cause teams like New Jersey who need a sf, might have increased interest in Deng.
Assuming of course New Jersey doesn't get Lebron.
As for Gay, another athletic player with lack of fundamentals who won't become what he COULD become cause he has no motor nor desire to get better.

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 04:39 PM
That is the end of the argument. He is always hurt.:laugh2:
And you forgot to mention the Grizz went 2-0

Probably has something to do with that Mayo, Gasol, and Randolph fellow. Or the fact that the second time they played, half the Bulls team was injured.

Stunner
07-01-2010, 04:39 PM
Of course not.
For his size and athleticism, he's a poor rebounder. He's a poor defender with that size and athleticism as well. He also has one of the worst A/TO ratio. And I'm really skeptical about his season this year since it was a contract year. He's a decent offensive player, but is inconsistent and as shown with his awful A/TO, he's a blackhole. Memphis panicked and really ****ed up with this one.
Good news as a Bulls fan though, cause teams like New Jersey who need a sf, might have increased interest in Deng.
Assuming of course New Jersey doesn't get Lebron.
As for Gay, another athletic player with lack of fundamentals who won't become what he COULD become cause he has no motor nor desire to get better.

lol

Rosh
07-01-2010, 04:40 PM
Wait, people are arguing that Gay is better than Deng?


I HATE Deng, but Jesus. :speechless:

zambo4president
07-01-2010, 04:40 PM
When I opened the thread I actually said "Oh nooo" I can't believe Rudy got a ****ing max deal, he's good don't get me wrong but wow that man just robbed Memphis big time.

magichatnumber9
07-01-2010, 04:42 PM
Does this mean Rudy is completely Gay right now? I know:horse:

zambo4president
07-01-2010, 04:43 PM
This Luol Deng vs. Rudy Gay **** needs to end. Deng's easily better than Rudy guys

magichatnumber9
07-01-2010, 04:43 PM
I'll take Deng over Rudy as far as shooting.

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Wait, people are arguing that Gay is better than Deng?


I HATE Deng, but Jesus. :speechless:

Can you blame them. Some people think that making Sportcenter's top 10 plays is what makes you a great player. :laugh2:
In the end of the day he's mediocre, and an underachiever which really sucks cause given his athleticism and size he could be something special.

what54!?
07-01-2010, 04:44 PM
you guys do realize the one guy agruing gay is better is a memphis fan right?

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 04:45 PM
I'll take Deng over Rudy as far as shooting.

Only thing I'd take Gay over Deng is pure athleticism, but does it matter if you hardly ever use it to your advantage except maybe one spectacular player or 2 a game.
Deng's a vastly better defender and a better rebounder as well. Though Gay SHOULD be amazing at this departments with his athleticism. Sadly he isn't.

Stunner
07-01-2010, 04:46 PM
you guys do realize the one guy agruing gay is better is a memphis fan right?

I did catch that lol such a loss.

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 04:46 PM
you guys do realize the one guy agruing gay is better is a memphis fan right?

I don't think it should matter. You'd hope there are unbias fans here as well. I mean I'm a Bulls fan, and I love Rose, but I'm not dumb enough to call Rose a top 3 pg just yet.

Kakaroach
07-01-2010, 04:49 PM
Stay on topic guys, I'm tired of all this off-topic **** that goes on in these threads.

To me, I don't think Gay deserves a max, but he might have gotten one in the open market as well.

tdunk21
07-01-2010, 04:57 PM
griz overpaid him imo.....y is griz FO so dumb.....gasol trade, now this....dumb move unless there is sign and trade involved...

Big Quett
07-01-2010, 04:59 PM
you guys do realize the one guy agruing gay is better is a memphis fan right?


I did catch that lol such a loss.


I don't think it should matter. You'd hope there are unbias fans here as well. I mean I'm a Bulls fan, and I love Rose, but I'm not dumb enough to call Rose a top 3 pg just yet.

From the BULLS FORUM. http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488462

Even Bulls fans voted Rudy over Deng. So what exactly is your point?

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 05:01 PM
From the BULLS FORUM. http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums...d.php?t=488462

Even Bulls fans voted Rudy over Deng. So what exactly is your point?

That's news to me. I didn't know that a player's skill level is based on their popularity. My God I've been looking at this all wrong all this time. So what's Brian Scalabrine, is like top 10 in this league then?


Stay on topic guys, I'm tired of all this off-topic **** that goes on in these threads.

To me, I don't think Gay deserves a max, but he might have gotten one in the open market as well.

Agreed. I could have seen a desperate team pay max or near max for him.

Big Quett
07-01-2010, 05:06 PM
That's news to me. I didn't know that a player's skill level is based on their popularity. My God I've been looking at this all wrong all this time. So what's Brian Scalabrine, is like top 10 in this league then?


Because you said my opinions were clouded because i was a Grizz fan. What is the excuse for Bulls fans thinking Rudy is better? You just contradicted yourself.

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Because you said my opinions were clouded because i was a Grizz fan. What is the excuse for Bulls fans thinking Rudy is better? You just contradicted yourself.

First of all I didn't say that. Second of all, I could care less who voted for who. Like I said before, guys like Gay get hyped up because of their athleticism and making sportcenter's top 10 plays. Believe me, I had to deal with the constant stupidity in our forum that Tyrus Thomas is going to be a top player because of his athleticism long after it was clear that he was a likely flop.
I also suggest looking up the word contradict.

HouRealCoach
07-01-2010, 05:11 PM
Way overpaid...

Stunner
07-01-2010, 05:12 PM
First of all I didn't say that. Second of all, I could care less who voted for who. Like I said before, guys like Gay get hyped up because of their athleticism and making sportcenter's top 10 plays. Believe me, I had to deal with the constant stupidity in our forum that Tyrus Thomas is going to be a top player because of his athleticism long after it was clear that he was a likely flop.
I also suggest looking up the word contradict.

Yeah we have some characters in our forum and Grizz payed to much they should have made him walk he is hampering OJ.

magichatnumber9
07-01-2010, 05:20 PM
This is great for every team in the league. I can guarantee they will be looking to dump this contract in a couple of years.

jackdawson
07-01-2010, 05:30 PM
overpaid.

ohreally
07-01-2010, 05:52 PM
Gay for max? I guess it is hard to keep any decent player in Memphis, but jeez, this is totally outrageous. I wouldn't mind him being a Knick at a decent salary, but what has he proven? Not much.

tangent12
07-01-2010, 05:53 PM
This is very... Rudy Gay.

hugepatsfan
07-01-2010, 05:55 PM
Another score-first player for MEM. That's why they will always be close to a playoff team but never get over the hump. They need to start getting some role players - not a bunch of scorers. They should have let Gay walk (S&T, ideally) and kept Brewer.

numba1CHANGsta
07-01-2010, 05:58 PM
What a "Gay" contract

redzone11
07-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Way overpaid for Gay, but that's the market in the NBA now. Some of these teams are gonna be really screwed. Hopefully some of these teams start looking at trading for Iggy as an option.

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 06:08 PM
Bravo for all you geniuses out there with Gay jokes. :rolleyes:

numba1CHANGsta
07-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Bravo for all you geniuses out there with Gay jokes. :rolleyes:

How Much Would You Pay For Gay? :D

tangent12
07-01-2010, 06:40 PM
How Much Would You Pay For Gay? :D

LOL!! Knowing him... top dollar. :D

fadedmario
07-01-2010, 06:51 PM
The Grizzlies will be for real next year

ATX
07-01-2010, 06:57 PM
:laugh:

Rudy Gay is in the same ballpark as LBJ/Wade...Bosh/Amare...?? WTF ever. Good for him, but holy crap, I can't believe Memphis gave him a max deal. Overpaid by a lot. I can't even believe Memphis has an NBA team.

nico916
07-01-2010, 07:00 PM
Gay...

roshan3ai
07-01-2010, 07:05 PM
o.v.e.r.p.a.i.d.

mikantsass
07-01-2010, 07:24 PM
From the BULLS FORUM. http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488462

Even Bulls fans voted Rudy over Deng. So what exactly is your point?

Thank you for proving my point.

Stunner
07-01-2010, 07:38 PM
Thank you for proving my point.

it proves nothing he is a better fit for the Bulls cuz of his athletic ability but that doesnt mean he is the better player that can be said about a lot of players in the league.

mzgrizz
07-01-2010, 09:00 PM
how do memphis fans feel about this?

I feel good.........like I knew I would. I FEEL good, like I knew I would now. So right, so right......
yeah baby ,this will be Rudy's big year

dtmagnet
07-01-2010, 09:01 PM
Good for him, he's not going to disappoint.

Bruno
07-01-2010, 09:08 PM
What?

blah-blah
07-01-2010, 09:10 PM
isnt max 25per? on the nba website it says hes getting 13.7 per

numba1CHANGsta
07-01-2010, 09:24 PM
The money being offered now a days is ridiculous! Wish I was Gay :(

masalex1205
07-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Let the franchise crippling contracts begin!

JAZZNC
07-01-2010, 09:46 PM
Wow is that a WHOLE lot of money for a guy who simply isn't worth it. Rashard Lewis 2.0, Memphis will regret this in a few years.

Like others have been saying, this and other deals like Joe Johnson are leaving some teams with rosters full of crap players and only being able to sign a guy like Salmons. I think this whole process is going to be a let down with most guys staying with their current teams.

Stunner
07-01-2010, 09:46 PM
The money being offered now a days is ridiculous! Wish I was Gay :(

lol

kozelkid
07-01-2010, 10:31 PM
isnt max 25per? on the nba website it says hes getting 13.7 per

Depends how many years you played in the NBA. Here's the handy dandy chart for you.
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q11

Grizz/Cowboys09
07-01-2010, 10:55 PM
how do memphis fans feel about this?

I'm from Memphis and i guess everyone is right when they say no matter what Memphians find ANY reason to hate on the Grizzlies...if he would have walked most Memphians would have complained mgmt is cheap and doesn't care about keeping the players they draft....but wow, it even surprised me today so see how may people were reacting in such a negative fashion on the local news...it was real disappointing...the reaction on this board is alot more favorable

of course rudy is overpaid but there were several teams willing to over pay him...we had to keep the elder statesment of our young core or we would have a major setback season next year

in Memphis, all people care about are the stupid Memphis Tigers...i couldn't care less about some local college team and it's fans that chronically hate an more the Grizzlies make.....every one hated trading for Zach Randolph

take that Minnesota (and it's number one fan).....i knew whereever Rudy went, it wouldn't be Minny...but hey, you signed Donnia Darko Milicic :clap:

ElMarroAfamado
07-01-2010, 11:41 PM
a whole lot of money for someone who is not that great of a player
he prob reached his peak this past year.....
its crazy to pay this much to a player everyone knows is not going to lead you anywhere..

topdog
07-01-2010, 11:49 PM
Why offer the max to a restricted FA? Is it because they didn't want to deal with a front-loaded contract?

topdog
07-01-2010, 11:53 PM
take that Minnesota (and it's number one fan).....i knew whereever Rudy went, it wouldn't be Minny...but hey, you signed Donnia Darko Milicic :clap:

I will gladly "take that." I was worried Kahn might get a little too excited about getting a max player and waste the cash on Gay (not that I don't support Gay-love but he is nowhere near a max player imo). Now, we still have to get Lee off the board before I can relax...

What's with all these Darko haters? Give the man a chance! I think he's worth the extra 0.3M more he'll make than Zaza Pachulia.

SugeKnight
07-02-2010, 12:22 AM
lol, he can end up making more than lebron

The Raven
07-02-2010, 04:42 AM
They made him offers all season long and he turned them all down. Wonder why in the hell he's accepting now. A bit overpaid though.