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D Roses Bulls
07-01-2010, 12:29 PM
The Boston Celtics' Rasheed Wallace(notes) hasn't officially retired just yet so the team is trying to trade his contract, according to Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.

Celtics GM Danny Ainge would like a power forward or center such as the Orlando Magic restricted free agent J.J. Redick(notes) in return to take the place of the injured Kendrick Perkins(notes) and the retiring Wallace, Wojnarowski reports. Ainge would be glad to get Wallace's $6.32 million for next season and $6.79 million for the following season off of the books.

This would leave the Celts with a midlevel exception to use on this stellar free-agent class.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Celtics-trading-Rasheed-Wallace-;_ylt=Aqhoxz9jtUGDqg2iCyMN0.SPzdEF?urn=nba,252785

Kakaroach
07-01-2010, 12:30 PM
Sounds like their trying to trade his contract, and if they do he won't be coming back.

Wade_County
07-01-2010, 12:32 PM
Doesnt his salary count against the cap? So there trying to trade someone who is so pose to retire and the team he would go to is going to take a cap hit, lol.

black1605
07-01-2010, 12:33 PM
JJ Redick wouldn't make a very good big.

celtisox41
07-01-2010, 12:33 PM
JJ redick is a shooting guard not a power forward or center

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 12:34 PM
No NBA GM is stupid enough to trade for Sheed's ridiculous contract considering he is basically Dead! And Sheed is NOT in any way walking away from that money no matter what.

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 12:35 PM
Celtics GM Danny Ainge would like a power forward or center such as the Orlando Magic restricted free agent J.J. Redick(notes) in return to take the place of the injured Kendrick Perkins(notes) and the retiring Wallace, Wojnarowski reports.

Is Danny Ainge smoking crack?

JJ Redick couldn't play Center in a YMCA league in Vermont, let alone the ****ing NBA. I could bang on his soft *** down low.

MacFitz92
07-01-2010, 12:36 PM
I wasn't aware Redick could play PF or C. Next thing you know Shaq will be able to play point.

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 12:37 PM
Sounds like their trying to trade his contract, and if they do he won't be coming back.

Sheed is going to pull a Bret Favre. Seriously, what is Sheed meant to do in his life outside of basketball? The man has serious character problems, he wouldn't make it in the "real world" having to wear a suit & tie and interview to be a manager.

8kobe24
07-01-2010, 12:37 PM
If he retires, his salary will still be counted in the cap. I believe he has 1 year left in his contract (correct me if I'm wrong). If I am right, then teams wanting an expiring contract for next year would want to deal for him.

RaiderLakersA's
07-01-2010, 12:37 PM
That article can't be right.

LTBaByyy
07-01-2010, 12:39 PM
What a 6'4 Center??? Wow hmmm...

and why on earth would a team take on a contract for 2 years if he's thinking about retiring??

sixerfixer
07-01-2010, 12:39 PM
I wasn't aware Redick could play PF or C. Next thing you know Shaq will be able to play point.




Are you aware that there are 4 S's in the word Assassin ? :facepalm:

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 12:43 PM
If he retires, his salary will still be counted in the cap. I believe he has 1 year left in his contract (correct me if I'm wrong). If I am right, then teams wanting an expiring contract for next year would want to deal for him.

He has 2 years left on his contract. The only way Boston can clear him off is if he agrees to a buyout with the buyout salary over the next 2 seasons.

Sheed didn't fit anyways. Boston needs some young legs behind KG. If Boston could get Tyrus Thomas somehow, it would be a great fit. The leadership there in Boston and the system can do wonders for Tyrus Thomas.

cubfan23
07-01-2010, 12:45 PM
question, how is it that if a person retires the team still has to take the cap hit and do they still pay him?

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 12:48 PM
question, how is it that if a person retires the team still has to take the cap hit and do they still pay him?

NBA contracts are guranteed. It keeps Sheed from retiring, clearing off cap space for Boston, and then signing for the minimum a month later.

mikantsass
07-01-2010, 12:53 PM
Sheed is going to pull a Bret Favre. Seriously, what is Sheed meant to do in his life outside of basketball? The man has serious character problems, he wouldn't make it in the "real world" having to wear a suit & tie and interview to be a manager.

Sheed has made close to $175mil in his career. I doubt he has to work.

Kakaroach
07-01-2010, 12:54 PM
I doubt this means much anyway, their gonna have a tough time moving that contract, it still has 2 years on it.

KB24PG16
07-01-2010, 12:57 PM
this article sounds like bs. how can jj make a good big

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 01:00 PM
Sheed has made close to $175mil in his career. I doubt he has to work.

Do you really think Sheed wont end up one of these guys who goes bankrupt after 5-10 years out of the NBA? When you live such a lavish lifestyle for so long, how can you expect a 35 year old to "cut back" to living the retired life that a 65 year old would to better manage his money?

hugepatsfan
07-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Sheed is going to retire. That means he gets no money. His salary will continue to count against a team's cap space though. Therefore, he coulde be used to match salaries in a deal, but his new team would not have to pay him a cent. NO would be a good partner. They need to save money. Posey has a contract that Sheed could match in a trade. If BOS and NO made the trade, NO would still have a hold on theor cap space, but they would not pay anything to Sheed, thus saving them whatever money they owe to Posey for the duration of his deal. Not saying this trade will happpen, just an example.

And he wants to add a big in the trade for Sheed. Take back a player like Posey that plays PF or C. hat would free up the MLE for Reddick.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-01-2010, 01:08 PM
:confused:

hugepatsfan
07-01-2010, 01:11 PM
NBA contracts are guranteed. It keeps Sheed from retiring, clearing off cap space for Boston, and then signing for the minimum a month later.

But if he retires he gets nothing, right? His salary would still count against the cap, but he does not actually receive any money. Is that how it works.

Unless he agrees to a buyout. Then doesn't the amount he agrees to count against the cap instead of the salary?

Hellcrooner
07-01-2010, 01:11 PM
redduck playnv 4 or 5?

i guess the dude mistaked him fro JJ Hickson.....

jetsforever
07-01-2010, 01:15 PM
Sheed is going to pull a Bret Favre. Seriously, what is Sheed meant to do in his life outside of basketball? The man has serious character problems, he wouldn't make it in the "real world" having to wear a suit & tie and interview to be a manager.

You really think after the career he has had an the money he has made he needs to go and apply to be a manger :eyebrow:

nrwskinny
07-01-2010, 01:28 PM
if my memory serves correct..a player will continue to be paid until he files his retirment paperwork with the league--see Chris Webber, Allan Houston.

hugepatsfan
07-01-2010, 01:34 PM
if my memory serves correct..a player will continue to be paid until he files his retirment paperwork with the league--see Chris Webber, Allan Houston.

Exactly. Sheed is on the books until he does this. But I think he needs to do it eventually. That's why BOS trades him to a team, using his salry to make a deal work. Then when he retires, the new team owes him nothing. Think of him as a "get out of jail free card" for a contract that a team doesn't want. A perfect examle is Maggete. He didn't have much value for GS because they're not competing. But he's a nice piece for MIL. Sheed might be able to get a guy like that.

awmathewsjr
07-01-2010, 01:43 PM
Doesnt his salary count against the cap? So there trying to trade someone who is so pose to retire and the team he would go to is going to take a cap hit, lol.

First off if he retires his salary won't count. And what Boston is trying to do will work for both teams. Because P.Pierce opted out, Boston is just under the salary cap which means they can't use the MLE but they're not far enough under the cap to make any significant moves. So they're gonna attempt to trade Sheed's contract for a solid player with enough salary to put them back over the cap so that they can use the MLE and sign a quality FA. Because if they can't the do that they can only sign players for the minimum or trade. On the other hand they're helping some team get rid of an unwanted contract because Sheed's retiring.

hugepatsfan
07-01-2010, 01:46 PM
First off if he retires his salary won't count. And what Boston is trying to do will work for both teams. Because P.Pierce opted out, Boston is just under the salary cap which means they can't use the MLE but they're not far enough under the cap to make any significant moves. So they're gonna attempt to trade Sheed's contract for a solid player with enough salary to put them back over the cap so that they can use the MLE and sign a quality FA. Because if they can't the do that they can only sign players for the minimum or trade. On the other hand they're helping some team get rid of an unwanted contract because Sheed's retiring.

That's right. The article is worded incorrectly. Reddick isn't the big they want, he's the guy they would use the MLE on. They want a big back in the deal. The only big man I can see being dealt in a salary dump is Biedrins. Can you see any others?

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 01:46 PM
But if he retires he gets nothing, right? His salary would still count against the cap, but he does not actually receive any money. Is that how it works.

Unless he agrees to a buyout. Then doesn't the amount he agrees to count against the cap instead of the salary?

I was talking about the idea of removing him from the cap, only for him to sign later for a cheaper price if he came back.

magichatnumber9
07-01-2010, 01:49 PM
CBA is a nightmare of a contract

avrpatsfan
07-01-2010, 01:49 PM
If the Celtics could trade him they would, but it will be hard. The only teams that might want this would be a team with financial troubles. They give us an identical contract in return and they have the same cap hold, but they don't have to pay him.

bleedprple&gold
07-01-2010, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty sure the second year is a player option. Obviously you can't pick up a player option if you're retired so it's really only 1 year on the books for whoever takes him.

Also, if you are under the cap, and you make a trade to get over the cap, do you still get the MLE? I thought if you weren't over the cap starting today then you don't get an MLE, maybe I'm wrong...

R_O_W_E
07-01-2010, 01:53 PM
You really think after the career he has had an the money he has made he needs to go and apply to be a manger :eyebrow:

It was an exaggeration.

I hate it when you get like that. I love your emoticons, they stir me up.

Sixerlover
07-01-2010, 01:54 PM
Do you really think Sheed wont end up one of these guys who goes bankrupt after 5-10 years out of the NBA? When you live such a lavish lifestyle for so long, how can you expect a 35 year old to "cut back" to living the retired life that a 65 year old would to better manage his money?

No he won't because he says that he has a managing company looking over his $$, and doesn't have big loans out with the banks (which is how most of the players go bankrupt). And he said he'll work here at Gratz his old H.S, so I'm guessing he'll just live a normal above average salary life, not the Eddy Curry or Antonie Walker life.

Sheed is actually a very smart guy.

Trouble87
07-01-2010, 01:54 PM
they meant to say Marcin Gortat

mikantsass
07-01-2010, 02:01 PM
Do you really think Sheed wont end up one of these guys who goes bankrupt after 5-10 years out of the NBA? When you live such a lavish lifestyle for so long, how can you expect a 35 year old to "cut back" to living the retired life that a 65 year old would to better manage his money?

I am too lazy to look up some sources. But all accounts that I have read and heard on the radio Rasheed is actually smart with his money. He is financially stable for 3 lifetimes. He also is married with 3 (or maybe 4) kids. Its not like he goes to the strip clubs with Pacman and makes it rain. And he aint hittin the casinos with Toine.


redduck playnv 4 or 5?

i guess the dude mistaked him fro JJ Hickson.....

The article is a typo. It meant to say that the Celtics are trying to trade Sheed's contract for a big man in return. That would then allow the C's to use the MLE, and one of their mid-level target is Redick.

awmathewsjr
07-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Do you really think Sheed wont end up one of these guys who goes bankrupt after 5-10 years out of the NBA? When you live such a lavish lifestyle for so long, how can you expect a 35 year old to "cut back" to living the retired life that a 65 year old would to better manage his money?

Sheed's is not one of those guys who's out living it up and buying 10 cars a year. Sheed is actually a family man and seems to live a conservative life.

The Raven
07-02-2010, 05:06 AM
I had no idea you could do this. Seems a bit criminal though