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Dark Donnie
06-30-2010, 11:02 AM
Update: 1:34pm ET
From Toronto source:

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/


Just filed a quick news story to my desk about the Bosh-to-Miami deal that's being reported off an ESPN fellow's tweet.

No one I talked to at the Raptors can confirm or will deny it; the free agency period hasn't even begun and they are not about to run afoul of the NBA's head off.

Look for the news item shortly and then let me spend a few hours trying to make sense of it. I will say it runs counter to what I've heard as the Raptors opinion of Mike Beasley for months.

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Dan Lebatard reporting bosh to miami for chalmers, beasley, and anthonyhttp://twitter.com/Eric__Smith/status/17419491905

Le Betard's original tweet.


I hear bosh-miami is done ..bosh-wade shared agent avoids tampering...its why beasley, chalmers, anthony still here...raptors get them

http://twitter.com/LeBatardShow/status/17417534999

Yahoo is saying...


Sources said the Raptors will try to acquire draft picks and young players in return for Bosh. They would likely ask for forward Michael Beasley(notes) and point guard Mario Chalmers(notes) in any deal with the Miami Heat. If Bosh were to go to the Chicago Bulls, the Raptors like forward Taj Gibson(notes) and center Joakim Noah(notes), though Noah could prove impossible to pry from Chicago. If Bosh settles on the New York Knicks, the Raptors would try to engage in a double sign-and-trade that sends Knicks forward David Lee(notes) to Toronto.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...boshwade062910

h2r09
06-30-2010, 11:04 AM
if they give them chalmers ill be pissed. We need to keep him.

RadiantShot
06-30-2010, 11:04 AM
Unconfirmed, biased report. Add in the word 'may' :laugh:

Raidaz4Life
06-30-2010, 11:04 AM
wow


So who is currently on the heat's roster?

Venomous88
06-30-2010, 11:05 AM
Unconfirmed report : James, Amare, Wade, and Bosh sign to Miami

While I believe Bosh is heading to Miami, this has just as much legitimacy for the time being as my report

macc
06-30-2010, 11:06 AM
I'll believe it when I see the official report.

Tblaze
06-30-2010, 11:06 AM
So who is making up for the remaining 10M in salary?

Focused1
06-30-2010, 11:06 AM
if they give them chalmers ill be pissed. We need to keep him.

If this is true and seeing how Bosh helped Toronto, maybe they'll help out Miami by buying him out so he can go back. As a canadian we are too nice and passive lol

thatguy
06-30-2010, 11:07 AM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

Evolution23
06-30-2010, 11:07 AM
true lies

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:08 AM
I would like to thank all that Chris Bosh has done for the Raptors.

You'll be missed by plenty and when you return to Toronto, I'll cheer you on.

Master Mind
06-30-2010, 11:08 AM
I think it's a done deal

Evolution23
06-30-2010, 11:08 AM
I would like to thank all that Chris Bosh has done for the Raptors.

You'll be missed by plenty and when you return to Toronto, I'll cheer you on.

nothign happened yet relax :)

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:11 AM
MSNBC picked up on it.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38017785/ns/sports-player_news/

LeBatard is way too much of a respected source to make this up...

We'll see though.

sep11ie
06-30-2010, 11:11 AM
I believe everything I read on Twitter.

Melo15
06-30-2010, 11:11 AM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

It doesn't matter though it only matters where Chris Bosh wants to go.

TheWatcher34
06-30-2010, 11:11 AM
is it after july 1st yet?

h2r09
06-30-2010, 11:11 AM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

in order for a sign and trade to work the player has to tell the team where he wants to go and the player tells them the team and then the team tries to figure out what could work with that team. You cant just pick any team for a sign and trade and say to bosh you are going there

coolmo
06-30-2010, 11:12 AM
So who is making up for the remaining 10M in salary?

heard it's 9 mil TPE + Cash or Picks on top of those players.

SluggeR
06-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Don't matter who has the best assets, it only matters where the player wats to go.

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Nothing happened yet. Relax. :)

It's doesn't matter if Chris Bosh goes to Miami, Chicago or New York. He's gone! I just wanted to say good bye to the Raptors' second best player in franchise history.

DaBUU
06-30-2010, 11:13 AM
i have a sinking feeling this is true.....

S-Dot
06-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Pat Riley really isn't playing around. I wonder how Chicago will react if this does become true at 12:01.

D1JM
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
The Toronto Raptors have begun to assess which players they would try to obtain in potential sign-and-trade transactions involving free-agent forward Chris Bosh(notes).

Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo told a Toronto radio station he thinks Bosh “likely” will leave the team. Should Bosh decide to sign elsewhere, Colangelo also said the Raptors will try to engage in a sign-and-trade deal to bring the franchise some measure of compensation.

Sources said the Raptors will try to acquire draft picks and young players in return for Bosh. They would likely ask for forward Michael Beasley(notes) and point guard Mario Chalmers(notes) in any deal with the Miami Heat. If Bosh were to go to the Chicago Bulls, the Raptors like forward Taj Gibson(notes) and center Joakim Noah(notes), though Noah could prove impossible to pry from Chicago. If Bosh settles on the New York Knicks, the Raptors would try to engage in a double sign-and-trade that sends Knicks forward David Lee(notes) to Toronto.

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Sources called a potential sign-and-trade with the Los Angeles Lakers “doubtful.”

Bosh has most commonly been linked to the Heat and Bulls, where he could join either Dwyane Wade(notes) or LeBron James(notes), if not both. Agent Henry Thomas, who represents both Bosh and Wade, denied a report the two had met together with James over the weekend in Miami. But, Thomas said, the three have talked frequently about their futures. Sources said Amar’e Stoudemire(notes), Carlos Boozer(notes) and Joe Johnson(notes) have also discussed various scenarios with their fellow free agents. Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony(notes) and New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul(notes) have joined the conversations, as well.

Wade has made clear he won’t commit to re-signing with the Heat until he knows which other players will be joining him.

“That’s always been part of the decision,” Thomas said. “Obviously, Miami along with other teams, has a plan that they would like to execute. He’s going to listen to that plan and probably take the opportunity to listen to other plans.”

Wade and Bosh will reportedly meet with the Knicks and New Jersey Nets in New York shortly after the start of free agency. Thomas wouldn’t confirm any appointments, but said it’s possible Wade and Bosh could decide to meet with teams together.

“Their friendship is good,” Thomas said. “As a result of going through this experience, their relationship will be a lot stronger.”

James’ representative, Leon Rose, shares the same agency, CAA, as Thomas.

“It would be unrealistic to assume we won’t be having discussions about this,” Thomas said. “One of the things that will be to our advantage, that we will have, is information. We’re in the same company so information will be shared.”


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuvWj3ALbuneUj38V60NMcq8vLYF?slug=ys-boshwade062910

Weezy
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
Well at least Toronto got something outa him I guess.

yankeesown69
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
Lebatard is on ESPN radio right now

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
lebatard is an idiot...... i wont believe it till i see it.

Master Mind
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

Well Bosh has to agree to any sign and trade or he'll just walk come free agency. So if he wants to go to Miami and the Raptors want something in return they have no choice.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:14 AM
Unconfirmed report : James, Amare, Wade, and Bosh sign to Miami

While I believe Bosh is heading to Miami, this has just as much legitimacy for the time being as my report

:facepalm:

fadedmario
06-30-2010, 11:15 AM
This is a deal that sounds like it happened.

LTBaByyy
06-30-2010, 11:15 AM
So they will have only Chris Bosh on the roster with pittman and butler after this trade?

masalex1205
06-30-2010, 11:15 AM
So who is making up for the remaining 10M in salary?

cap space boss

camador22
06-30-2010, 11:15 AM
Crap it's really happening :speechless:. It sounds legit

h2r09
06-30-2010, 11:15 AM
lebatard is an idiot...... i wont believe it till i see it.

your an idiot. lebatard while not always serious is one of the best reporters we have ever had down here.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:16 AM
If this doesn't pop up on the Miami Herald website shortly, then it's probably pretty evident this isn't true.

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:16 AM
If this is true, the Raptors have to trade Michael Beasley for another player. I don't want that clown here in Toronto. However, I do think Jay Triano (Raptors' head coach) could discipline Michael Beasley to an extent.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:16 AM
isnt this tampering if they were discussing this for a couple of weeks?

JOSKOMANG4
06-30-2010, 11:17 AM
Unless Miami resigned Joel Anthony b/c Anthony just opt'd out of his current contract to become a free agent.

Also, CHalmers is a great PG but I mean this team already has two overpaid PG's in Jack & Calderon(unless 1 of them get traded).

Hard to believe that this happen, but if it did, Miami, great pick up but sorry 2 tell you that you have 1 person on your roster right now; Chris Bosh.

sixerfixer
06-30-2010, 11:18 AM
Dan is on the Herd right now on ESPN, and he said that it is speculation. That Bosh and Wade share the same agent. So there can't be any collusion :-) He said that Bosh is like the best looking girl in a bar. And that EVERYONE is hitting on her, and that at any time she can change her mind. Hmmm. Doesn't sound like a done deal to me. Just a Local HACK reporter trying to make himself talked about nationally.

C_Mund
06-30-2010, 11:18 AM
I don't mind what we're getting back. This gives us a ton of expiring contracts and trade exceptions to at least start to rebuild.

Ragun
06-30-2010, 11:18 AM
i love this trade for both teams...hopefully beasley can turn it around in toronto. he has more upside than bosh or any raptors other than bargnani.

its not like we are going to be contenders next year anyway so beasley gets a good chance to develop with bargnani.

DaoudS
06-30-2010, 11:19 AM
isnt this tampering if they were discussing this for a couple of weeks?

A team can discuss principle deals, but can't talk to the player. Miami can't talk to Bosh until midnight. However, Colangelo can call up Riley and say...."if Bosh were to decide on Miami, what pieces would you be willing to send back?"

h2r09
06-30-2010, 11:19 AM
isnt this tampering if they were discussing this for a couple of weeks?

you can discuss trades when both seasons are finished.

Weezy
06-30-2010, 11:19 AM
isnt this tampering if they were discussing this for a couple of weeks?

Its not official yet. This is just another rumor in my opinion. But as said before trades can be discussed.... its a S and trade.

AllTimeBest
06-30-2010, 11:19 AM
Not only does this move give them Bosh, it gets rid of Beasley which gives them the money they need to sign Wade and Lebron both. Could be the beginning move to a huge dynasty in this league.

yankeesown69
06-30-2010, 11:20 AM
Yeah this hasnt been agreed upon...at least not yet. Dan did not mention that this actually been accepted by both sides on the radio just now.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:20 AM
A team can discuss principle deals, but can't talk to the player. Miami can't talk to Bosh until midnight. However, Colangelo can call up Riley and say...."if Bosh were to decide on Miami, what pieces would you be willing to send back?"

ok well go get JJ and Boozer/Amare.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:21 AM
isnt this tampering if they were discussing this for a couple of weeks?

Prob...but what are you gonna do about it:shrug:

RadiantShot
06-30-2010, 11:21 AM
Yeah, this is sounding like it's going to happen..Raptors get a lot of depth, and the Heat gain an all-star. We'll find out if it was the best decision. I'd definitely do it.

yankeesown69
06-30-2010, 11:21 AM
Not only does this move give them Bosh, it gets rid of Beasley which gives them the money they need to sign Wade and Lebron both. Could be the beginning move to a huge dynasty in this league.

Stop acting like it happened! It is quite possible that it will but as of now this is not the truth.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:21 AM
On his radio show, he said the deal is "done".

Also.

http://twitter.com/LeBatardShow/status/17417534999


I hear bosh-miami is done ..bosh-wade shared agent avoids tampering...its why beasley, chalmers, anthony still here...raptors get them

While it doesn't sound official (and it can't be), if anyone knows anything going on in Miami, it's this man.

Kakaroach
06-30-2010, 11:22 AM
Is Dan Lebatard a legit source guy? Never heard of him outside of PTI.

Anyway, nice deal for both sides. Chalmers, Beasley, and Anthony are better than nothing for Bosh.

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:22 AM
Dan Leretard just trolled everyone.


1. Chris Bosh opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Toronto can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto can't sign & trade him until July 8th at the earliest. Miami can't have any discussions on a contract with him until 12:01.

2. Joel Anthony opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Miami can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto cant discuss a contract with him until 12:01 and they cant sign him until July 8th.

Anything happening before then is tampering. Miami cant have contact with Bosh and neither can Toronto with Anthony.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:22 AM
While Toronto-Miami deal may be in the works, Anthony's agent says there is no way Joel is involved. "We're not under contract," he said.
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

coolmo
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
:clap: someone's madly jealous. :D

i wish bosh the best. i am a big fan of raptors and miami so...
if this happens, i am happy for both teams.
i really didnt' want him to go .... chi

AllTimeBest
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
Stop acting like it happened! It is quite possible that it will but as of now this is not the truth.


Is Dan Lebatard a legit source guy? Never heard of him outside of PTI.

Anyway, nice deal for both sides. Chalmers, Beasley, and Anthony are better than nothing for Bosh.

Yes he is. And everyone has been expecting this to be a done deal.

Chicagofaithful
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
so some guy is reporting that a reporter is reporting that this deal is done?! lmao

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
I have a feeling it's a done deal.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
chris bosh said himself he doesnt see this happening and how it will work with the 3 of them..... so remember, bosh still would have to agree to the sign and trade. so miami and toronto can agree all they want but they will need bosh's approval and i just dont seebosh not at least hearing other pitches first.

mavwar53
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

They can get nothing at all, that is the main point of the trade, it frees up space for miami but toronto at least gets something out of it if in fact this is true.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:23 AM
Prob...but what are you gonna do about it:shrug:

Im not gonna do anything but Stern can reject the trade though.

hawkeyefootball
06-30-2010, 11:24 AM
While Toronto-Miami deal may be in the works, Anthony's agent says there is no way Joel is involved. "We're not under contract," he said.
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

Focused1
06-30-2010, 11:24 AM
nothign happened yet relax :)

I hear ya, but he MOS DEF Chris ain't coming back to Toronto so I can't blame the dude for saying that.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:24 AM
On his radio show, he said the deal is "done".

Also.

http://twitter.com/LeBatardShow/status/17417534999



While it doesn't sound official (and it can't be), if anyone knows anything going on in Miami, it's this man.

Dan is on the Herd right now on ESPN, and he said that it is speculation.
While Toronto-Miami deal may be in the works, Anthony's agent says there is no way Joel is involved. "We're not under contract," he said.
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

Amazing trade for Miami, to trade a guy they don't even have under contract. . .

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:25 AM
Is Dan Lebatard a legit source guy? Never heard of him outside of PTI.

Anyway, nice deal for both sides. Chalmers, Beasley, and Anthony are better than nothing for Bosh.

Without a doubt. He's probably the most respected, well known, and trust-worthy Miami columnist. He's been working for the Miami Herald for like 20 years. He has talks shows. He's written for many big name magazines. He has tons of connections. He's the big fish in the Miami sports pond.

I don't think any sportscaster/reporter has their finger on the Miami sports world pulse more than Dan.

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:25 AM
so some guy is reporting that a reporter is reporting that this deal is done?! lmao

Basically.

What is wrong with your girlfriend's eyes? I keep looking at them & her **** and something doesn't look right.

Chicagofaithful
06-30-2010, 11:25 AM
Dan Leretard just trolled everyone.


1. Chris Bosh opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Toronto can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto can't sign & trade him until July 8th at the earliest. Miami can't have any discussions on a contract with him until 12:01.

2. Joel Anthony opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Miami can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto cant discuss a contract with him until 12:01 and they cant sign him until July 8th.

Anything happening before then is tampering. Miami cant have contact with Bosh and neither can Toronto with Anthony.


this

YankeeFan28
06-30-2010, 11:25 AM
It's probably been agreed upon on principle.

NYK|NYY
06-30-2010, 11:25 AM
Dan Leretard just trolled everyone.


1. Chris Bosh opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Toronto can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto can't sign & trade him until July 8th at the earliest. Miami can't have any discussions on a contract with him until 12:01.

2. Joel Anthony opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Miami can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto cant discuss a contract with him until 12:01 and they cant sign him until July 8th.

Anything happening before then is tampering. Miami cant have contact with Bosh and neither can Toronto with Anthony.
Yeah but they can just AGREE to sign and trade w/ Toronto. No idea about the Joel Anthony. But I'm thinking there is an agreement in place and it will be executed on the 8th. In 3 hours the agents will come out and deny everything but I think this makes sense.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:25 AM
Amazing trade for Miami, to trade a guy they don't even have under contract. . .

lol

Melo15
06-30-2010, 11:26 AM
Amazing trade for Miami, to trade a guy they don't even have under contract. . .

I must say that is impressive :clap:

S-Dot
06-30-2010, 11:26 AM
chris bosh said himself he doesnt see this happening and how it will work with the 3 of them..... so remember, bosh still would have to agree to the sign and trade. so miami and toronto can agree all they want but they will need bosh's approval and i just dont seebosh not at least hearing other pitches first.

Not sure this is done deal, but if it is true, does Chicago shift their focus to Stoudemire or Boozer along with LBJ?

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:26 AM
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

Exactly.

Bosh isn't under contract either. Had Bosh opted in with Toronto they could've worked out a deal immediately that wouldn't be made official until July 8th.

D1JM
06-30-2010, 11:26 AM
so the heat are getting anthony who opt out and is unrestricted Free agent? Hmmm sounds weird

D1JM
06-30-2010, 11:27 AM
Without a doubt. He's probably the most respected, well known, and trust-worthy Miami columnist. He's been working for the Miami Herald for like 20 years. He has talks shows. He's written for many big name magazines. He has tons of connections. He's the big fish in the Miami sports pond.

I don't think any sportscaster/reporter has their finger on the Miami sports world pulse more than Dan.

so if he is so legit then why would he report anthony in the deal if he is UFA. He would know about this right

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:27 AM
smh something is fishy.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:27 AM
It's probably been agreed upon on principle.

Yeah. Of course it's not official. Everyone knows it can't be.

I do believe Le Bartard, and I do believe that once this trade can become official, it will be. It's speculation, because that's all that can happen now, but as far as I'm concerned, like Dan said, this is a done deal.

Kakaroach
06-30-2010, 11:28 AM
Without a doubt. He's probably the most respected, well known, and trust-worthy Miami columnist. He's been working for the Miami Herald for like 20 years. He has talks shows. He's written for many big name magazines. He has tons of connections. He's the big fish in the Miami sports pond.

I don't think any sportscaster/reporter has their finger on the Miami sports world pulse more than Dan. I see, thanks Manrammy.

And yeah Anthony opted out a while ago, but they can trade his rights though. :shrug:

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:28 AM
Yeah but they can just AGREE to sign and trade w/ Toronto. No idea about the Joel Anthony. But I'm thinking there is an agreement in place and it will be executed on the 8th. In 3 hours the agents will come out and deny everything but I think this makes sense.

It makes sense.

However how can you agree on a deal in principle when 2 players involved in the deal are UFA's? Both of these guys are in The Free Agent Pool. They aren't attached to either team right now. Toronto has to work out a deal with Joel Anthony and Miami has to work out a deal with Chris Bosh.

It sounds like more mumbo jumbo to make a team like Chicago/NY/Dallas/Houston/NJ to go out and do something stupid to try to get Bosh instead.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:28 AM
It's probably been agreed upon on principle.
Can't agree on much when two of the players involved isn't even under contract.

Not only does Bosh have to agree to the sign and trade, Anthony would too.


I don't doubt that this trade might happen, or something similar, but I have severe doubts that anything is even close to set.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:28 AM
so if he is so legit then why would he report anthony in the deal if he is UFA. He would know about this right

He's not an UFA.


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/heat-extend-qualifying-offer-to-joel-anthony.php

According to Ira Winderman, the Miami Heat have extended a qualifying offer to 27-year old defensive specialist Joel Anthony. Anthony averaged 2.7 points, 3.1 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks in 16.5 minutes per game last season.

The Heat now have the right to match any offer given to Anthony. If Anthony does re-sign with the Heat, he would join Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers as the only players the Heat currently have under contract.

They can sign-and-trade him as well...if he's consenting.

Lo Porto
06-30-2010, 11:29 AM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

It's all up to where Bosh wants to go not what Toronto gets in return. Bosh says I want to go to _______. And then Toronto will get whatever ______ is willing to give up to get Bosh. If NJ, it would be Favors, Humphries, etc. If Miami, it's Beasley and Chalmers. If NY, it's Lee and Chandler. Etc, etc, etc.

Toronto might get the most from Houston, but Bosh has to want to go there.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:29 AM
chris bosh said himself he doesnt see this happening and how it will work with the 3 of them..... so remember, bosh still would have to agree to the sign and trade. so miami and toronto can agree all they want but they will need bosh's approval and i just dont seebosh not at least hearing other pitches first.

You guys ain't getting bosh...accept it.

BALLER71
06-30-2010, 11:29 AM
Can't agree on much when two of the players involved isn't even under contract.

Not only does Bosh have to agree to the sign and trade, Anthony would too.


I don't doubt that this trade might happen, or something similar, but I have severe doubts that anything is even close to set.

We made an offer to Anthony so I do think this deal will eventually go down... I don't know why Bosh wouldn't agree to coming to Miami.

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:29 AM
I'd rather just take Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers, a draft pick or two and the trade exception. If the Raptors were to bring in Joel Anthony, it would probably mean Amir Johnson would be gone.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:30 AM
Anthony is Canadian...just saying

D1JM
06-30-2010, 11:30 AM
He's not an UFA.



They can sign-and-trade him as well...if he's consenting.

oh ok thanks for clarifying that

mavwar53
06-30-2010, 11:30 AM
Dan Leretard just trolled everyone.


1. Chris Bosh opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Toronto can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto can't sign & trade him until July 8th at the earliest. Miami can't have any discussions on a contract with him until 12:01.

2. Joel Anthony opted out of his contract making him a UFA. Miami can't sign & trade him right now. Toronto cant discuss a contract with him until 12:01 and they cant sign him until July 8th.

Anything happening before then is tampering. Miami cant have contact with Bosh and neither can Toronto with Anthony.

Ok, well an agreement that this deal will happen on the 8th isn't far fetched, why can this not happen?

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:30 AM
Yeah. Of course it's not official. Everyone knows it can't be.

I do believe Le Bartard, and I do believe that once this trade can become official, it will be. It's speculation, because that's all that can happen now, but as far as I'm concerned, like Dan said, this is a done deal.
But if this trade doesn't happen, does LeBartard take any flak? Or will it be a "well, it must have fallen through" situation.

In my eyes, he better be right, otherwise he made himself look like a huge jack *** with this report.
Not sure this is done deal, but if it is true, does Chicago shift their focus to Stoudemire or Boozer along with LBJ?
Probably Boozer before Stoudemire. Considering injury-history and post presence, I think Boozer would be better with Rose. Also I think he'll come cheaper.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:31 AM
Why would any agent admit to collusion???

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:31 AM
It's probably been agreed upon on principle.

The reporter is including Joel Anthony in the deal and Joel Anthony currently isn't even a member of the Miami Heat.

When has Dan LeRetard ever been a Miami Heat Insider? Does anybody watch him on PTI? He knows nothing about basketball. Hes a football & baseball writer.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:31 AM
And even if Joel Anthony doesn't want to go to Toronto, Miami doesn't have to include him. They don't need to match salaries with this trade. I don't think Joel Anthony will affect this deal in Toronto's eyes. I'm sure a first round will be all the same in their eyes.

Of course, that's just my uneducated guess.

Master Mind
06-30-2010, 11:32 AM
chris bosh said himself he doesnt see this happening and how it will work with the 3 of them..... so remember, bosh still would have to agree to the sign and trade. so miami and toronto can agree all they want but they will need bosh's approval and i just dont seebosh not at least hearing other pitches first.

You don't think he did? :eyebrow:

The ChILL
06-30-2010, 11:32 AM
If true congrats Miami. Although the big fish is still out there.

buck4493
06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
http://twitter.com/Eric__Smith/status/17419491905


Lebron will stay put in Cleveland. All of these media clows have no sources, they are just getting bloggers excited. He is not going to leave 30 million on the table without a guaratee of a title. None of the teams pursuing him would be the favorites next year.

James--stay in cleveland if you want to become a legend.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Quote:
I'm listening to Lebetard on Colin Cowherd. He IS NOT claiming a trade has been made. He said he's heard rumors that Bosh to Miami is going to happen because Bosh and Wade have the same agent. But that the two of them are trying to convince LeBron to come and LeBron is not convinced yet.


/THREAD

buck4493
06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
The reporter is including Joel Anthony in the deal and Joel Anthony currently isn't even a member of the Miami Heat.

When has Dan LeRetard ever been a Miami Heat Insider? Does anybody watch him on PTI? He knows nothing about basketball. Hes a football & baseball writer.

I thgt he was just a massive tool

LTBaByyy
06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Bosh will be in miami regardless but i dont think Lebron will...

Even though he's the better player obviously, he's gonna be playing the pippen role
and letting wade take the last shots and stuff

Trust me, i dont see him playing in Wade's city

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
But if this trade doesn't happen, does LeBartard take any flak? Or will it be a "well, it must have fallen through" situation.

In my eyes, he better be right, otherwise he made himself look like a huge jack *** with this report.Probably Boozer before Stoudemire. Considering injury-history and post presence, I think Boozer would be better with Rose. Also I think he'll come cheaper.

Probably he'll take some heat. But from what I've gathered listening to the radio, and reading his tweets, he's not saying it's official, he's admitting it's speculation. Of course a snag in the deal can pop up in the next week...but he thinks the deal is "done". He's not saying that it is official (because, as he knows, nothing is right now).

I trust his sources. He's not one to make stuff up. That's what unestablished reporters do to try and make a name. He has nothing to gain from making this up.

h2r09
06-30-2010, 11:34 AM
so if he is so legit then why would he report anthony in the deal if he is UFA. He would know about this right

probably because you are wrong and anthony is a restricted free agent and probably not in the deal.

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:34 AM
Joel Anthony is a Canadian.

Sorry, but I ain't inspired by that.

I'd take Amir Johnson over Joel Anthony any day of the week!

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:34 AM
We made an offer to Anthony so I do think this deal will eventually go down... I don't know why Bosh wouldn't agree to coming to Miami.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Miami-Toronto agreed to this. My doubts come in whether Bosh agreed at all. Why wouldn't he want to go visit the teams come tomorrow? The only scenario in which he wouldn't visit, I would think, is if he's receiving the max contract. At that point, will Miami be able to afford Lebron with Bosh and Wade making max deals?

There are a few million reasons I can think of why Bosh would wait to sign with Miami after visiting NY, NJ, Chicago, etc.

Ragun
06-30-2010, 11:35 AM
And even if Joel Anthony doesn't want to go to Toronto, Miami doesn't have to include him. They don't need to match salaries with this trade. I don't think Joel Anthony will affect this deal in Toronto's eyes. I'm sure a first round will be all the same in their eyes.

Of course, that's just my uneducated guess.

yeah that makes sense.

anthony is from canada too so im sure he wouldnt mind playing here BUT we are now loaded in the frontcourt, especially if we bring back amir johnson (we better bring him back). anthony would be our #5 guy.

NYK|NYY
06-30-2010, 11:35 AM
Bosh will be in miami regardless but i dont think Lebron will...

Even though he's the better player obviously, he's gonna be playing the pippen role
and letting wade take the last shots and stuff

Trust me, i dont see him playing in Wade's city
Yeah I agree with this. Anything those 3 achieve will have a blemish for Lebron.

BALLER71
06-30-2010, 11:35 AM
Sorry, but I ain't inspired by that.

I'd take Amir Johnson over Joel Anthony any day of the week!

You gotta watch Anthony play defense. Absolute monster.

ChiGuy24
06-30-2010, 11:35 AM
So who is making up for the remaining 10M in salary?

I'm pretty sure the salaries don't have to match up if both teams are under the cap, but I'm not positive. I know Miami is well under the cap, I don't know Toronto's cap situation.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:35 AM
You don't think he did? :eyebrow:

at this point, i don't know..... there is so much BS going around. its hard to believe anything until someone comes out and proves it. if anything, im glad it will be the heat if its not the bulls being from florida, but id still prefer it be the bulls or magic. at least though its not new york or cleveland or the lakers

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Why would any agent admit to collusion???


Ok, well an agreement that this deal will happen on the 8th isn't far fetched, why can this not happen?

The deal would have to happen on the 8th.

1. Miami & Toronto will have to work out deals with Bosh after Midnight. It can't be made official until the 8th.

2. Joel Anthony will have to work out a deal with Toronto. Miami will decline to match it because hes a RFA.


Then they can make this deal.

I just dont see how Chicago/NY/NJ/Dallas/Houston/LA sit around and do nothing if this deal in fact might go down. Each of those teams can come up with a package to lure Bosh and interest the Raptors.

Michael Beasley is not a good fit character wise or talent wise with Toronto. Beasley & Bargnani at the 4 & 5 will be the worst interior defense duo in the NBA. Beasley plays 0 defense and Bargnani has improved but isn't a good enough defender to defend the 5.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Quote:
I'm listening to Lebetard on Colin Cowherd. He IS NOT claiming a trade has been made. He said he's heard rumors that Bosh to Miami is going to happen because Bosh and Wade have the same agent. But that the two of them are trying to convince LeBron to come and LeBron is not convinced yet.

Chicagofaithful
06-30-2010, 11:36 AM
how is this thread still open? We're basing this off of a twitter post by some guy ive never heard of, thats reporting that Dan is reporting this deal is done.... doesn't that sound ridiculous to everyone? Wheres the legit link with Dan's quote and dan's article? If he is a reporter and this is a done deal, he should have his own breaking news, not someone doing it for him so he can just brush it off as rumors

D1JM
06-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Probably he'll take some heat. But from what I've gathered listening to the radio, and reading his tweets, he's not saying it's official, he's admitting it's speculation. Of course a snag in the deal can pop up in the next week...but he thinks the deal is "done". He's not saying that it is official (because, as he knows, nothing is right now).

I trust his sources. He's not one to make stuff up. That's what unestablished reporters do to try and make a name. He has nothing to gain from making this up.

so its more of what yahoo is reporting

Sources said the Raptors will try to acquire draft picks and young players in return for Bosh. They would likely ask for forward Michael Beasley(notes) and point guard Mario Chalmers(notes) in any deal with the Miami Heat. If Bosh were to go to the Chicago Bulls, the Raptors like forward Taj Gibson(notes) and center Joakim Noah(notes), though Noah could prove impossible to pry from Chicago. If Bosh settles on the New York Knicks, the Raptors would try to engage in a double sign-and-trade that sends Knicks forward David Lee(notes) to Toronto.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuvWj3ALbuneUj38V60NMcq8vLYF?slug=ys-boshwade062910

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:36 AM
Why would any agent admit to collusion???
There is no collusion. Collusion is involved when other teams discuss with players. Not agents, not agents+teams that currently can speak with players.

J4KOP99
06-30-2010, 11:37 AM
Wait, so now the Heat will only have Chris Bosh on their roster?


...if this deal happens of course.

Kakaroach
06-30-2010, 11:38 AM
Yeah I think we're gonna have to play the waiting game for another week before Bosh is finalized on a deal on July 8th.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:38 AM
so its more of what yahoo is reporting

Sources said the Raptors will try to acquire draft picks and young players in return for Bosh. They would likely ask for forward Michael Beasley(notes) and point guard Mario Chalmers(notes) in any deal with the Miami Heat. If Bosh were to go to the Chicago Bulls, the Raptors like forward Taj Gibson(notes) and center Joakim Noah(notes), though Noah could prove impossible to pry from Chicago. If Bosh settles on the New York Knicks, the Raptors would try to engage in a double sign-and-trade that sends Knicks forward David Lee(notes) to Toronto.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuvWj3ALbuneUj38V60NMcq8vLYF?slug=ys-boshwade062910

Yeah. I think some people took his original tweet saying this deal was "done" as it meaning it's official...which certainly isn't what Dan meant. I'm sure he just meant that from what he's gathered, he thinks it's a done deal. Obviously, nothing can be official yet, and everything can change over the next week.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:39 AM
Yeah I think we're gonna have to play the waiting game for another week before Bosh is finalized on a deal on July 8th.

agreed or unless its many confirmed reports that say other wise and i mean more then 1 or 2

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:39 AM
Yeah. I think some people took his original tweet saying this deal was "done" as it meaning it's official...which certainly isn't what Dan meant. I'm sure he just meant that from what he's gathered, he thinks it's a done deal. Obviously, nothing can be official yet, and everything can change over the next week.
I'll repeat this:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Miami-Toronto agreed to this. My doubts come in whether Bosh agreed at all. Why wouldn't he want to go visit the teams come tomorrow? The only scenario in which he wouldn't visit, I would think, is if he's receiving the max contract.

Perhaps this deal was "done" in the possibility that Bosh chooses Miami after visiting everyone.

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
You got to watch Joel Anthony play defense. Absolute monster!

I've seen him play.

Has great length that allows him to grab rebounds and block shots. A little garbage on offense, but that could be worked upon. However, if bringing in Joel Anthony means getting rid of Amir Johnson, no thank you!

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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I cant wait for the Free Agency Madness on PSD.

BALLER71
06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Wait, so now the Heat will only have Chris Bosh on their roster?


...if this deal happens of course.

Yes. And I imagine Wade will quickly re-sign so that the Heat make a play for Lebron or JJ.

D1JM
06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Yeah. I think some people took his original tweet saying this deal was "done" as it meaning it's official...which certainly isn't what Dan meant. I'm sure he just meant that from what he's gathered, he thinks it's a done deal. Obviously, nothing can be official yet, and everything can change over the next week.

if it is true, then congrats heat.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:41 AM
Bosh will be in miami regardless but i dont think Lebron will...

Even though he's the better player obviously, he's gonna be playing the pippen role
and letting wade take the last shots and stuff

Trust me, i dont see him playing in Wade's city

There were reports of Lebron referring to this 3 max in miami as a dream team...even going as far to say if bosh don;t want to do it we can find someone else...LBJ is down to miami or CLE.

Bigbadmoffo
06-30-2010, 11:41 AM
so if he is so legit then why would he report anthony in the deal if he is UFA. He would know about this right

Why is this so hard to believe. They resign anthony on the 1st and trade him on the 8th.

MJ-BULLS
06-30-2010, 11:42 AM
its not a done deal, we are going to have to play the waiting game.

J4KOP99
06-30-2010, 11:42 AM
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I cant wait for the Free Agency Madness on PSD.

The day LeBron signs, I think this website will shut down for a few hours. The traffic on here will be incredible. There are over 700 people in the NBA thread alone.

still1ballin
06-30-2010, 11:42 AM
So who is on the Heat roster?

Kakaroach
06-30-2010, 11:43 AM
Why is this so hard to believe. They resign anthony on the 1st and trade him on the 8th. You can't sign anyone until July 8th anyway so like I said we'll have to wait another week at least.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:43 AM
There were reports of Lebron referring to this 3 max in miami as a dream team...even going as far to say if bosh don;t want to do it we can find someone else...LBJ is down to miami or CLE.
Hmm...those reports are miraculously missing from every single big 3 thread?

Shocking.


If I'm a fan of Miami, I'm not sure I'd want a big 3. With those 3 at all potential max deals, the rest of the roster is going to need to be league minimum players. I don't think that team can succeed.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:44 AM
what kind of gets me is the miami herald's online page isnt even reporting it and lebatard is on the staff

DaBUU
06-30-2010, 11:45 AM
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I cant wait for the Free Agency Madness on PSD.

its going to a bizznitch coming in here after midnight tonight for us regulars. Im just going to keep this open all night.

nikeking711
06-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Hopefully its a done deal.

YankeeFan28
06-30-2010, 11:46 AM
Where's Mr. Source in all of this :(

DaBUU
06-30-2010, 11:46 AM
Hopefully its a done deal.

hopefully its not

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:46 AM
Question for Heat fans:

Would you want the big 3 and a remaining roster of very poor players, or would you prefer Wade/Bosh duo with a stronger combination of starters and bench.

jaded01
06-30-2010, 11:47 AM
your an idiot. lebatard while not always serious is one of the best reporters we have ever had down here.

you're*

if you are going to call someone an idiot, you are best served not being one yourself.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:48 AM
There were reports of Lebron referring to this 3 max in miami as a dream team...even going as far to say if bosh don;t want to do it we can find someone else...LBJ is down to miami or CLE.

how do you know? are you lebron james? it amazes meeveryone believes what they read and i read the article your referring to in here.

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:48 AM
The day LeBron signs, I think this website will shut down for a few hours. The traffic on here will be incredible. There are over 700 people in the NBA thread alone.

When LeBron signs the internet might even run slower. PSD's servers are going to fry anyways so I doubt we'll be able to discuss it until maybe 2-3 days later :laugh2:

It could be the closest thing to what happened when Michael Jackson "reportedly" died and the news was spreading before it was official.


Imagine 8 Million people in New York and like 3 Million people in Chicago all searching desperately about the LeBron "signs with insert team here" story.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:48 AM
Hmm...those reports are miraculously missing from every single big 3 thread?

Shocking.


If I'm a fan of Miami, I'm not sure I'd want a big 3. With those 3 at all potential max deals, the rest of the roster is going to need to be league minimum players. I don't think that team can succeed.

Thats just one article...coming from james mouth: dream team
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/06/30/2010-06-30_new_york_knicks_out_to_dissuade_lebron_james_fr om_dream_team_in_miami_with_dwyan.html

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:50 AM
how do you know? are you lebron james? it amazes meeveryone believes what they read and i read the article your referring to in here.

Ok. Lebron can stay in CLe with the same cast that can;t get past the 2nd round. Why would he go to CHI...way too many unknowns there. If you can;t beat em, join em

Recap
bosh+wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>chicago bulls
A lot higher chance of winning a ring with wade and bosh than noah, rose, and deng.

The Flash
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
it makes sense because toronto would rather sign and trade than lose bosh to free agency plus they get something in return. Beasley is a very good player, he just wasnt played right in Miami and i'd hate to see him go but if we get Bosh so be it

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
double post...sorry

J4KOP99
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
Alright, so basically LeBatard(a respected journalist, aside from what some of you may think) made a statement in which he did not believe to be complete fact and then some other guy took that statement and put it on his Twitter, proclaiming that it has actually been confirmed and finished?


This is basically nothing, yet over 300 people are in this bad boy ready for some action.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
We prefer a big three so Bulls fans would feel like ***.
If the Bulls grabbed Johnson and Boozer, I actually think they'd be able to keep up with Miami. Miami will have a horrendous bench, so unless Wade/Lebron/Bosh all play nearly the entire game, opponents will have every opportunity to come back.
Thats just one article...coming from james mouth: dream team
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ith_dwyan.html

Those were the words James used when he reached out to another free agent in the past 10 days and pitched the idea of joining them.

"He said, 'Would you be willing to take less to join Dream Team?'" the player, who did not want to be identified, told the Daily News. "He said his people were putting it together."

Amazing that the player doesn't want to be identified. Even more amusing that the player would tell a news source this.


I do find it extremely funny that if a story like this broke with Chicago, you'd be saying it had no credibility because the 'player' is unnamed. But since it's Miami, you accept it.

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
This thread literally is turning into a Bulls vs Heat thread.

Ragun
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
You gotta watch Anthony play defense. Absolute monster.

well amir is a much better offensive player he isnt hte greatest shooter but he developed it as the season progressed and is a monster around the net. and he is a great hustle player.

i do like joel anthony though.

DaBUU
06-30-2010, 11:52 AM
ManRam whydya delete my post? i was trying to keep the peace?!?

footballer2369
06-30-2010, 11:52 AM
Guess what guys, Bosh isn't under contract either....

They agreed in principle on a sign and trade. I know, tough to grasp, but possible.

It would be:

Michael Beasley (under contract), Mario Chalmers (under contract), Joel Anthony (sign and trade)

for

Chris Bosh (sign and trade)

All the players have to sign and agree and that's why it's in principle and it's not official.

Joel Anthony is from Canada- he played for their national team- and played for Jay Triano before so he will be happy to go there and get a fresh start.

It makes all the sense in the world.

We'll see this become official on the 8th but probably verified early tomorrow.

ManRam
06-30-2010, 11:52 AM
Alright, so basically LeBatard(a respected journalist, aside from what some of you may think) made a statement in which he did not believe to be complete fact and then some other guy took that statement and put it on his Twitter, proclaiming that it has actually been confirmed and finished?


This is basically nothing, yet over 300 people are in this bad boy ready for some action.

This is pretty much it. It's just speculation, albeit somewhat substantial speculation. It is noteworthy, but it isn't any worth writing in stone...not even close.

R_O_W_E
06-30-2010, 11:53 AM
Alright, so basically LeBatard(a respected journalist, aside from what some of you may think) made a statement in which he did not believe to be complete fact and then some other guy took that statement and put it on his Twitter, proclaiming that it has actually been confirmed and finished?


This is basically nothing, yet over 300 people are in this bad boy ready for some action.

I hope the Mods stop deleting the posts after these guys sign contracts with certain teams. People want to see raw human emotion from fans going through the stages of denial.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:53 AM
Ok. Lebron can stay in CLe with the same cast that can;t get past the 2nd round. Why would he go to CHI...way too many unknowns there. If you can;t beat em, join em

Recap
bosh+wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>chicago bulls
A lot higher chance of winning a ring with wade and bosh than noah, rose, and deng.
Eh, unfortunatley basketball plays with 5 players and a bench. With Bron/Wade/Bosh, Miami would struggle a lot in games when that second team has to come in. Add in that one injury destroys that team.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:54 AM
Ok. Lebron can stay in CLe with the same cast that can;t get past the 2nd round. Why would he go to CHI...way too many unknowns there. If you can;t beat em, join em

Recap
bosh+wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>chicago bulls
A lot higher chance of winning a ring with wade and bosh than noah, rose, and deng.


ummm what looks better......

wade,bosh,lebron, and a bunch of 1.3 million dollar players

or

rose,noah,deng,bosh lebron

hmmmmmm..........

DaSox_05
06-30-2010, 11:54 AM
Just because Bosh and Wade have same agent doesnt mean deal is done. Lebron and new Bulls coach Tom Thib have same agent so if thats the case Lebron is coming to Chicago.

I am going to wait and see who these guys actually sign with before getting my hopes up or down.

dwadefan03
06-30-2010, 11:54 AM
this is wonderful. it means we can resign our own free agents over the cap

nysportsfan02
06-30-2010, 11:55 AM
If this is true does that mean it's a done deal LBJ is joining them in Miami?

Why else would they S&T for Bosh? Unless maybe there going for a big three with Wade, Bosh, JJ/Boozer?

Hope this isnt true.

The Dream
06-30-2010, 11:55 AM
how do you know? are you lebron james? it amazes meeveryone believes what they read and i read the article your referring to in here.

now you see how us knick fans feel when bulls fans say chi or cle

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:56 AM
this is wonderful. it means we can resign our own free agents over the cap
How far over can you go?

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:57 AM
If the Bulls grabbed Johnson and Boozer, I actually think they'd be able to keep up with Miami. Miami will have a horrendous bench, so unless Wade/Lebron/Bosh all play nearly the entire game, opponents will have every opportunity to come back.Amazing that the player doesn't want to be identified. Even more amusing that the player would tell a news source this.


I do find it extremely funny that if a story like this broke with Chicago, you'd be saying it had no credibility because the 'player' is unnamed. But since it's Miami, you accept it.

:confused: What are you talking about
"LeBron James is calling the possible union of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and of course, the King himself, "Dream Team."

Double_R
06-30-2010, 11:57 AM
Ok. Lebron can stay in CLe with the same cast that can;t get past the 2nd round. Why would he go to CHI...way too many unknowns there. If you can;t beat em, join em

Recap
bosh+wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>chicago bulls
A lot higher chance of winning a ring with wade and bosh than noah, rose, and deng.


If I was Lebron wanted to win, he would get Bosh and go to Chicago, because that is where the talent is not the Heat... If the heat get all three, they are still full of a bunch of nobodies... that is just the way it is

Lebron, Rose, Deng, Noah, Gibson, (Bosh, Amare, Boozer, Dirk), another good free agent = way way way better than Bosh, Wade, Lebron

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 11:57 AM
now you see how us knick fans feel when bulls fans say chi or cle

well to be fair all bulls fans have been including the heat as well. its just miami and chicago has always looked better then the nets and knicks..... cleveland only gets put in because its his home town.

DaBUU
06-30-2010, 11:58 AM
How far over can you go?

they can as far over as they want. they just have to match 1 mill for every one mill they're over

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 11:58 AM
If this is true does that mean it's a done deal LBJ is joining them in Miami?

Why else would they S&T for Bosh? Unless maybe there going for a big three with Wade, Bosh, JJ/Boozer?

Hope this isnt true.

When we get bosh/wade i think it definitely puts pressure on lebron to come here...it's either Miami or CLe.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 11:59 AM
:confused: What are you talking about
"LeBron James is calling the possible union of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and of course, the King himself, "Dream Team."
Not directly from Lebron's mouth, that's from the unnamed player's quote of what the unnamed players SAYS Lebron said.

Lo Porto
06-30-2010, 11:59 AM
I hope Bosh takes the max deal since it's a sign and trade. If Bosh takes Bird rights max (I think around $18 year 1) and Wade does the same, then Miami spends the most money possible on two players. They could still afford to sign LBJ to regular maz ($16.5 year 1), but why would LBJ go to a team where he's paid like the 3rd best player? How would Miami will out the rest of their roster? 2010-11 would be 3 superstars plus 5 2nd rounders and DLeague players.

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 12:00 PM
:confused: What are you talking about
"LeBron James is calling the possible union of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and of course, the King himself, "Dream Team."

no the 92,96,2000 olympic teams were dream teams. bosh,wade, and bosh and a bunch of nobodies isnt a dream team........

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:00 PM
they can as far over as they want. they just have to match 1 mill for every one mill they're over
Then why wouldn't more team's simply go over the cap to do similar?

For Miami to fill their roster after Bosh/Bron/Wade, they're going to have to have a lot of rookies and washed up vets.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:01 PM
If I was Lebron wanted to win, he would get Bosh and go to Chicago, because that is where the talent is not the Heat... If the heat get all three, they are still full of a bunch of nobodies... that is just the way it is

Lebron, Rose, Deng, Noah, Gibson, (Bosh, Amare, Boozer, Dirk), another good free agent = way way way better than Bosh, Wade, Lebron

Wade>rose, noah, and deng...
Wade/lbj/bosh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lbj/bosh/noah/deng/gibson

Do you know how many good vets. would come here. Raja bell already said he would come, arroyo who is nothing great but did have 2nd best asst/to ration last year would come back, You really think Pat Riley will have trouble rounding out a roster?

nysportsfan02
06-30-2010, 12:01 PM
I say LBJ doesn't join them.

1) His ego won't let him be the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player on the team

2) Wade will always have 1 more ring then him

3) He doesn't want to be labled as the guy who had to join two superstars to win his rings

4) He is staying in Cleveland.

Thisisouryear!!
06-30-2010, 12:02 PM
So Bosh will not be visiting other teams? and is oficially pretty much off the market?

effen5
06-30-2010, 12:02 PM
lol pointless thread is pointless can't believe i just read that crap.

Lebron + Bosh to Bulls "Done Deal"
Lebron + Bosh to Miami "Done Deal"
Toronto S+T to Miami "Done Deal"
LBJ + Wade met in Miami on Saturday



Thank god everyone has these reliable "sources" I wouldn't know what to believe. :rolleyes:

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:02 PM
Wade>rose, noah, and deng...
Wade/lbj/bosh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lbj/bosh/noah/deng/gibson

Do you know how many good vets. would come here. Raja bell already said he would come, arroyo who is nothing great but did have 2nd best asst/to ration last year would come back, You really think Pat Riley will have trouble rounding out a roster?
Yes. Unless the owner has no problem throwing a lot of money over the cap.


Those players can "like Miami" a lot, but offer them league minimum while other good teams will offer them 2 to 3 times that and watch them walk away to the other team.


Players love championships, but players need money-especially the ones who aren't sure things to get another contract.

Double_R
06-30-2010, 12:03 PM
CP3 and Melo to the Magic to join DH... now thats the dream team...

But seriously... THis is all HYPE.....HYPE..... ESPN has you watching don't they???? What do think they care about... $$$$$$$$.... Lets continue this talk tommorrow

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:03 PM
I say LBJ doesn't join them.

1) His ego won't let him be the 2nd or 3rd highest paid player on the team

2) Wade will always have 1 more ring then him

3) He doesn't want to be labled as the guy who had to join two superstars to win his rings

4) He is staying in Cleveland.

It's all about at the end of his career, how many rings does he have? In 15 years no ones gonna say Wade has one more than lebron:facepalm:

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:04 PM
So Bosh will not be visiting other teams? and is oficially pretty much off the market?

He will probably visit other teams, Riley is working all this from behind the scenes. Riley has been waiting 3 years for this, he knows what he's doing.

Melo15
06-30-2010, 12:05 PM
LeBron won't go to Miami in my opinion, it makes him look weak. He doesn't want to be known for having to go join Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh to win a title. His ego won't let that happen.

The[chi][town]
06-30-2010, 12:05 PM
man this **** is insane in membrane, T-minus 13 hours til free agency

Double_R
06-30-2010, 12:05 PM
LeBron won't go to Miami in my opinion, it makes him look weak. He doesn't want to be known for having to go join Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh to win a title. His ego won't let that happen.

Well said

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:06 PM
It's all about at the end of his career, how many rings does he have? In 15 years no ones gonna say Wade has one more than lebron:facepalm:
Really? Because I seem to remember a certain superstar making a point about having 1 more ring than another after this season. . .

The[chi][town]
06-30-2010, 12:07 PM
Really? Because I seem to remember a certain superstar making a point about having 1 more ring than another after this season. . .

didnt shaq say something about having one more than kobe when he won with miami too?

nysportsfan02
06-30-2010, 12:07 PM
It's all about at the end of his career, how many rings does he have? In 15 years no ones gonna say Wade has one more than lebron:facepalm:

What?

Lets say he goes to Miami and wins 4 rings. At the end of the career people will notice Wade has 5. It's Wade's team and Lebron isnt joining "Wade's Team".

BALLER71
06-30-2010, 12:08 PM
The knicks are completely screwed. Miami will go after Bosh and Lebron. Bulls will go after Boozer and Johnson. And the Knicks will kind of be "forced" to throw the max at Amare.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 12:10 PM
UGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH is it 12:01 yet!

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:11 PM
Really? Because I seem to remember a certain superstar making a point about having 1 more ring than another after this season. . .

Thats becasue kobe and shaq have been on bad terms for a while:facepalm:
Wade and LBJ are best freinds...wade has said he wants LBJ and would take a step back from the spotlight. :facepalm: for you trying to compare this situatino to the kobe shaq situation.

Jonathan2323
06-30-2010, 12:11 PM
The Miami HEAT might have a whole new roster except D Wade. Riley is INCEDIBLE.

effen5
06-30-2010, 12:13 PM
I actually hope this happens....The Miami Heat (non-sports city) will ruin the NBA single-handedly....Can not wait to see this happen.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:13 PM
Yes. Unless the owner has no problem throwing a lot of money over the cap.


Those players can "like Miami" a lot, but offer them league minimum while other good teams will offer them 2 to 3 times that and watch them walk away to the other team.


Players love championships, but players need money-especially the ones who aren't sure things to get another contract.

i think Mick arrison has money...Over 3 billion and has shown before he will spend it on a contender. Money is not an object if we are winning.

Jonathan2323
06-30-2010, 12:13 PM
Bosh and Wade. Then we have 21.5 mil left to spend.

pebloemer
06-30-2010, 12:13 PM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

The certainly would have better assets to trade, but if Bosh tells the Raptor's he is signing with Miami - either sign and trade or nothing what Houston can offer is completely irrelevant.

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:14 PM
Bosh and Wade. Then we have 21.5 mil left to spend.

I know:hi5: Riley is a ****ing genius...3 years in the making.

Melo15
06-30-2010, 12:14 PM
The Miami HEAT might have a whole new roster except D Wade. Riley is INCEDIBLE.

One might even call him incRedible :cool:

magichatnumber9
06-30-2010, 12:15 PM
The Mods must be loving this mess

effen5
06-30-2010, 12:15 PM
One might even call him incRedible :cool:

Nah, pretty sure Riley is more incedible.

beasted86
06-30-2010, 12:16 PM
lebatard is an idiot...... i wont believe it till i see it.

:facepalm:

Anyone who reports something you dislike is an idiot.

This is getting old from Bulls fans. :laugh:

Young2Kinsler
06-30-2010, 12:17 PM
So they will play 3 on 5 all season? I mean the rest of their roster is going to be so garbage... Trade away anyone with a shred of talent, genius!

D Roses Bulls
06-30-2010, 12:17 PM
theres no point in arguing...... everything gets deleted on here even if its not an insult. ill just wait for some solid hard evidence first.

nikeking711
06-30-2010, 12:17 PM
The knicks are completely screwed. Miami will go after Bosh and Lebron. Bulls will go after Boozer and Johnson. And the Knicks will kind of be "forced" to throw the max at Amare.

The Knicks are going after Joe Johnson pretty hard.

camador22
06-30-2010, 12:17 PM
I know:hi5: Riley is a ****ing genius...3 years in the making.


:nod:

shep33
06-30-2010, 12:23 PM
LeBron won't go to Miami in my opinion, it makes him look weak. He doesn't want to be known for having to go join Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh to win a title. His ego won't let that happen.

I agree 100%. It'd be a really cool idea if all 3 went to Miami, but how is history going to remember these guys?

If Lebron wins 8 rings, he will not be compared to MJ when all is said and done, and is his ego willing to take that on? People will utter, "well it only took Mike and Scottie to win 6 rings, it only took Kobe and Shaq/Pau to win 5".

I dunno IMO i think their individual legacies will deminish a bit, but if they're willing to make that sacrifice heck I give em credit, shows a level of unselfishness there.

Stunner
06-30-2010, 12:27 PM
And it begins :facepalm:

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:29 PM
I know how to spell just a mistake. :facepalm:

Had to be a Chicago fan, you don't like the news so you have to deflect attention to something like this.
If you've read carefully, it's not really "news." It's speculation, with no solid backing to it and a whole lot of question marks and speed bumps to overcome.

still1ballin
06-30-2010, 12:29 PM
:facepalm:

Kyben36
06-30-2010, 12:31 PM
I still see no reason why bosh would not look around, so IMO, this makes no sense, it may be an agreed apon deal in the sense should Bosh want to go to miami, but I dont think anything can be confirmed. They cant find anyone to take Beasley off their hands, and sudenly Beasley for Bosh.

Asham
06-30-2010, 12:34 PM
"Source: “No truth’ in Bosh to Miami rumours "

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/basketball/source-no-truth-in-bosh-to-miami-rumours/article1624393/

20GoodTimes20
06-30-2010, 12:35 PM
i find it hard to believe that that's the package they get for bosh. I think the rockets for one have better assets to trade.

Agree. If he wants a max deal without having to stay in Toronto, he is going to get it in a S&T. The Rockets have the best pieces to make it happen and in all likelyhood, are his best suitor. But of course he nor anyone else sees it that way and he will end up in Miami.

On another note, if he goes to Miami through a sign and trade, it will be Bosh and Wade with no one else left the team. Good luck with that Miami :)

Also, no Lebron in Miami... he is staying in Cleveland for 3 yrs, preceding his move to the Brooklyn Nets

Kyben36
06-30-2010, 12:35 PM
**** THE MEDIA, im getting tired of this ****.

mia305king
06-30-2010, 12:37 PM
On another note, if he goes to Miami through a sign and trade, it will be Bosh and Wade with no one else left the team. Good luck with that Miami :)

Did the 20 mill in cap they'll have after they sign both just disappear ?

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Agree. If he wants a max deal without having to stay in Toronto, he is going to get it in a S&T. The Rockets have the best pieces to make it happen and in all likelyhood, are his best suitor. But of course he nor anyone else sees it that way and he will end up in Miami.

On another note, if he goes to Miami through a sign and trade, it will be Bosh and Wade with no one else left the team. Good luck with that Miami :)

Yea 20 mil to fill out the roster...can't do anything with 20 mil:facepalm:

OnslaughtXX6
06-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Dan Lebatard wouldn't make this up. He probably has a very credible source.

mia305king
06-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Idk what to believe anymore :sigh:

Master Mind
06-30-2010, 12:37 PM
I still see no reason why bosh would not look around, so IMO, this makes no sense, it may be an agreed apon deal in the sense should Bosh want to go to miami, but I dont think anything can be confirmed. They cant find anyone to take Beasley off their hands, and sudenly Beasley for Bosh.

:facepalm:

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Did the 20 mill in cap they'll have after they sign both just disappear ?

I know, right lol

YankeeFan28
06-30-2010, 12:38 PM
"Source: “No truth’ in Bosh to Miami rumours "

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/basketball/source-no-truth-in-bosh-to-miami-rumours/article1624393/

Mr. Source is just jealous he's wasn't in on these rumors from the start.

shep33
06-30-2010, 12:38 PM
I'm not even paying attention to these anymore. Just waiting for someone to break the news no ESPN or something. Cause this is getting ridiculous.

So far I've heard, Bosh to Chicago, Houston, LA, Miami. I'm just gonna wait to see who signs at 12:01, and Im betting its Joe Johnson in NY.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:38 PM
Yea 20 mil to fill out the roster...can't do anything with 20 mil:facepalm:
If you also get Lebron, you really can't do much with what you have left.


But again, Miami fans should be cautiously optimistic. Certainly be happy about the report, but realize that it's very early and there are a lot of problems this deal has to fix before it can be made.

beasted86
06-30-2010, 12:39 PM
I still see no reason why bosh would not look around, so IMO, this makes no sense, it may be an agreed apon deal in the sense should Bosh want to go to miami, but I dont think anything can be confirmed. They cant find anyone to take Beasley off their hands, and sudenly Beasley for Bosh.

The thing is it's not "suddenly" anything.

Riley wasn't offering Beasley for garbage like editors with poor reports/sources were speculating. Only they wanted you to believe that Beasley wasn't even worth Keyon Dooling or Ryan Gomes.

GTFOH... Why would Riley trade the #2 overall pick in the draft for garbage?


Anyway, this IS just speculation. Any agreements or understandings are only between teams. Agents and players can't be involved. Just because the Raptors/Heat have this package doesn't mean Bosh is ready to commit.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:39 PM
Dan Lebatard wouldn't make this up. He probably has a very credible source.
A lot of guys with "credible sources" are wrong, a lot.

These guys all have sources and they are still wrong a huge percentage of the time.

ballpd05
06-30-2010, 12:40 PM
I don't think that Bosh and Wade makes Miami elite like that. I still think Cleveland (w/ Lebron of course), Boston (assuming they keep their starting 5), and Orlando will all still be better than the Heat if they got Bosh.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:41 PM
With the big 3 talking, and new reports saying Johnson, Amare, Boozer are talking with CP and Melo, how long until the NBA adopts some sort of tampering rule for players, FA or signed.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:42 PM
I don't think that Bosh and Wade makes Miami elite like that. I still think Cleveland (w/ Lebron of course), Boston (assuming they keep their starting 5), and Orlando will all still be better than the Heat if they got Bosh.
If Miami stayed with Wade and Bosh and built a strong bench, they'd easily be better than Cleveland-even with Lebron and also would be on the same level as Orlando and Boston-if not better.


It's adding the third max contract that can really screw Miami's depth.

Master Mind
06-30-2010, 12:42 PM
I don't think that Bosh and Wade makes Miami elite like that. I still think Cleveland (w/ Lebron of course), Boston (assuming they keep their starting 5), and Orlando will all still be better than the Heat if they got Bosh.

Wade & Bosh and roughly 21 mill to play with...:shrug:

mia305king
06-30-2010, 12:42 PM
With the big 3 talking, and new reports saying Johnson, Amare, Boozer are talking with CP and Melo, how long until the NBA adopts some sort of tampering rule for players, FA or signed.

I don't think that's gonna happen, most of these guys are friends :shrug: they probably talk all the time.

20GoodTimes20
06-30-2010, 12:44 PM
Did the 20 mill in cap they'll have after they sign both just disappear ?

Sure, there are 150 FA scrubs out there, but you arent going to get guys like Odom, Artest, Bynum to surround Wade and Bosh as they do Kobe and Gasol. Hence, the reasoning for my thoughts...

Mplsman
06-30-2010, 12:44 PM
Holy **** 15 pages already!

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:45 PM
I don't think that's gonna happen, most of these guys are friends :shrug: they probably talk all the time.
Still, if they start to collude, the NBA is going to have to do something to keep any competitiveness alive.

ldc62
06-30-2010, 12:46 PM
I don't know if I would count those as sources... they are getting their info all from one source.

koLohe2133
06-30-2010, 12:48 PM
i will believe it in a week

Kakaroach
06-30-2010, 12:49 PM
Still, if they start to collude, the NBA is going to have to do something to keep any competitiveness alive. Yes, I think Stern would start to worry and put tampering violations on players as well.

NYMetros
06-30-2010, 12:50 PM
Still, if they start to collude, the NBA is going to have to do something to keep any competitiveness alive.

The NBA probably wants Bosh, LeBron, and Wade to team up.

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:52 PM
The NBA probably wants Bosh, LeBron, and Wade to team up.
Eh, I'm not sure they do. You now took players that could increase revenue in 3 different markets (TV, radio, jersey, etc) and placed them all into one market where the impact will be less overall.

spreadeagle
06-30-2010, 12:52 PM
ummm what looks better......

wade,bosh,lebron, and a bunch of 1.3 million dollar players

or

rose,noah,deng,bosh lebron

hmmmmmm..........

He wants a S&T...who are the bulls giving up? lmao bulls need to give up Noah then they get Bosh and Proably Bron but Chi dosent want to part with him...is holding on to Noah really worth not getting LBJ and Bosh? smh:facepalm:

Mplsman
06-30-2010, 12:52 PM
I would love to see the heat become a powerhouse in the east again

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 12:53 PM
He wants a S&T...who are the bulls giving up? lmao bulls need to give up Noah then they get Bosh and Proably Bron but Chi dosent want to part with him...is holding on to Noah realyl worth not getting LBJ and Bosh? smh:facepalm:
Why does he want a sign and trade?

Unless he gets the Bird benefactor contract, it doesn't help him whatsoever.

20GoodTimes20
06-30-2010, 12:53 PM
First off, we are all well aware of the 20 million or so your FO will have available to play with after you sign Wade and Bosh, but if think you are going to get role players capable of helping you win a title, you are delusional.

Once again...with that 20 million left, after you sign and trade the remainder of your team to get Bosh, you arent going to get Odom..Artest..Bynum..Fischer type player. The Lakers squad is still going to be better and you wont win..period.

BTW, i strongly dislike the Lakers.


PS...A SOURCE TOLD ME THAT LBJ IS STAYING IN CLEVELAND

Mplsman
06-30-2010, 12:54 PM
Who will be the 3rd star to join the heat?

J$mo0th_3o5
06-30-2010, 12:55 PM
If this is true I'm really gonna miss Beasley hopefully he can turn it around and live up to that expectation. Welcome Bosh:D

justinnum1
06-30-2010, 12:58 PM
the nba probably wants bosh, lebron, and wade to team up.

this

20GoodTimes20
06-30-2010, 12:58 PM
this

We really dont know what the NBA wants, but i doubt having LBJ, Wade and Bosh on the same squad is at the top of David Sterns agenda.

ldc62
06-30-2010, 12:59 PM
ummm what looks better......

wade,bosh,lebron, and a bunch of 1.3 million dollar players

or

rose,noah,deng,bosh lebron

hmmmmmm..........

Obviously Bulls. But how can you guarantee that Bulls will have Lebron there?

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 01:00 PM
We really dont know what the NBA wants, but i doubt having LBJ, Wade and Bosh on the same squad is at the top of David Sterns agenda.
Seriously, how does generating less revenue help the NBA?

If the NBA had a choice, every FA would go to a different team. With all 3 going to Miami, you wouldn't get nearly as many sales in merchandise as you would if 3 seperate teams each got 1 superstar.

spreadeagle
06-30-2010, 01:01 PM
Why does he want a sign and trade?

Unless he gets the Bird benefactor contract, it doesn't help him whatsoever.

He can make 30 mil more and one extra year on his deal if he does a S&T..Also he is well liked here and has said he doesnt want to leave the team with nothing so really wants to do a sign and trade,he is are all time leader in every stat almost,If we get a decent package for him he will be cheered when he comes back to this building for a long time

yboord028
06-30-2010, 01:04 PM
Nothing to Twitter rumor of Bosh for Beasley-Chalmers-Joel trade. At least not yet.http://twitter.com/wallacesports

redwhitenblue
06-30-2010, 01:04 PM
He can make 30 mil more and one extra year on his deal if he does a S&T..Also he is well liked here and has said he doesnt want to leave the team with nothing so really wants to do a sign and trade,he is are all time leader in every stat almost,If we get a decent package for him he will be cheered when he comes back to this building for a long time
I know of the extra year and money (aka, the Bird benefactor) that I mentioned. That extra money will only hurt the Heat's efforts more.

effen5
06-30-2010, 01:04 PM
The NBA probably wants Bosh, LeBron, and Wade to team up.

Okay umm this would probably ruin the league even more...

TBH, if those three teamed up, I would never watch another NBA game/attend a game again...why? Why bother...you know whose going to win every year, you know if they play your team, they are going to win it be a waste.

I seriously hope those three do team up...and if you don't think it will ruin the franchise...just watch.


The hypocracy in all this is IF LBJ signs with the heat, he made the league 100x worse...but I think he went on LK Live and said he wanted to make the league much better.

Again, thats only if ALL THREE SIGNED with the Heat...

and no I do not want both on the Bulls, I think it would balance out the east more if Heat got Wade + Bosh and Bulls got Lebron...

but hey, if they want to ruin the league, then :laugh2:

God, could you imagine all the non calls on Wade + Lebron and all the phantom calls on them as well?

Jays Claw
06-30-2010, 01:04 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH8k_rQnXyQ&feature=related) is what Michael Beasley has to say about this trade.

elonepb
06-30-2010, 01:05 PM
It appears as if Chicago fans are as stupid as ever on this thread. It's another reporter's opinion, I'm not doubting that. But the way you guys deny these rumors pisses me off. There's gonna be a lot of mad Bulls fans come July 1st-8th.

One could say the unwavering belief in these rumors (provided your team is benefiting) is also going to piss some people off, no?

Stunner
06-30-2010, 01:05 PM
Seriously, how does generating less revenue help the NBA?

If the NBA had a choice, every FA would go to a different team. With all 3 going to Miami, you wouldn't get nearly as many sales in merchandise as you would if 3 seperate teams each got 1 superstar.

x3

20GoodTimes20
06-30-2010, 01:06 PM
Seriously, how does generating less revenue help the NBA?

If the NBA had a choice, every FA would go to a different team. With all 3 going to Miami, you wouldn't get nearly as many sales in merchandise as you would if 3 seperate teams each got 1 superstar.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Stunner
06-30-2010, 01:06 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH8k_rQnXyQ&feature=related) is what Michael Beasley has to say about this trade.

lmao

spreadeagle
06-30-2010, 01:07 PM
I know of the extra year and money (aka, the Bird benefactor) that I mentioned. That extra money will only hurt the Heat's efforts more.

Bosh doesnt have that big endorsement money like Wade n LBJ I think he really wants that 30 mil..an injury can happen whenever gotta get that money while you can

C_Mund
06-30-2010, 01:07 PM
First off, we are all well aware of the 20 million or so your FO will have available to play with after you sign Wade and Bosh, but if think you are going to get role players capable of helping you win a title, you are delusional.

Once again...with that 20 million left, after you sign and trade the remainder of your team to get Bosh, you arent going to get Odom..Artest..Bynum..Fischer type player. The Lakers squad is still going to be better and you wont win..period.

BTW, i strongly dislike the Lakers.


PS...A SOURCE TOLD ME THAT LBJ IS STAYING IN CLEVELAND

Kind of the same way that the "Big 3" in Boston didn't have a chance when they all signed? There will be TONS of former all-stars that are still relevant looking for a title. They've all made their money, now I bet that some will even come out of retirement in order to win that ring.

20GoodTimes20
06-30-2010, 01:09 PM
Kind of the same way that the "Big 3" in Boston didn't have a chance when they all signed? There will be TONS of former all-stars that are still relevant looking for a title. They've all made their money, now I bet that some will even come out of retirement in order to win that ring.

Miami should bring ZO back..or maybe even Antoine Walker, a source told me he needs the money