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skinsfan4life80
06-26-2010, 10:37 AM
this is a very funny article that is dead on.

http://www.playersvoice.com/nba/love-to-hate.html

jaji10
06-26-2010, 11:14 AM
nice article... very interesting!!!

jaji10
06-26-2010, 11:16 AM
haters should read this and classify themselves which group do they belong....

IDB Josh M
06-26-2010, 11:24 AM
That was a great saturday morning read. I will admit, I' am a recovering Kobe hater; stemming from the shaq divorce of 2004. But after seeing what's happened since, I'm a happy Laker fan.

socalpkrbkr
06-26-2010, 11:30 AM
"you don’t even know me and you mad. How it feel to be a hater, now I know exactly how it feels to be a Laker" :clap:

Very entertaining read. You know, as much as I dislike haters, I don't think sports would be as exciting without them.

Vidball
06-26-2010, 11:33 AM
This guy must be an impartial PSD poster...I can name several posters on PSD that fall under these categories. Great read!

Avenged
06-26-2010, 11:44 AM
Great read.

While reading through it all, I couldn't help but to have PSD posters in the NBA forum on my mind. :laugh2:

evadatam5150
06-26-2010, 12:13 PM
The next type of KH, is ďMr. I-know-basketball-more-than-you.Ē He normally is the guy who played basketball in High School and may have even walked on at a D2 school. He now coaches kids basketball so he thinks he has this ability to understand the game that no one else does, and can see things that you cant see and no one else can explain. He is the guy who says Kobe just doesnít make others better, he says things like, you have to take Steve Nash over Kobe or no one wants to play with Kobe because heís too selfish. When you ask him to explain why Nash has played on some of the most talented teams in the NBA over the last decade and hasnít won anything, he really canít answer you. He says Kobe doesnít make anyone better but canít explain why three years ago no one wanted Pau Gasol but now everyone seems to think he is the best thing since sliced bread. Three years ago, no GM in their right mind would have traded Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion, for Gasol and Odom, but for some reason this guy insists that Nash gets more out of his teammates then Kobe. This guy normally has a long list of players he would rather start a team with (Nash, Paul, LeBron, Dirk etc.) all of whom have never won anything even in college, but he canít explain why because you just wouldnít understand. When you ask him to name Bryantís weakness, he gets frustrated trying to tell you, so he just tells you that you donít understand the game like he does.

Been saying this for years... Fact is Nash received at least one of Kobe's MVP trophy's due to Kobe hate.. Good stuff though and pretty much laughed my way through it because I've met every one of these fan types over the years.. ;)

Chacarron
06-26-2010, 12:19 PM
Great read. Let the haters keep coming.

lakers4sho
06-26-2010, 01:45 PM
The hardest guy to argue with is the history guy. He typically watches a lot of basketball and knows his stuff. He doesn’t like Kobe, but respects his game and as painful as it is to say, he will even admit that Kobe is the best player in the NBA today. He considers Kobe the best player of his generation, but will quickly tell you he is not one of the best ever. He will say Kobe is somewhere between 15th to 20th best player of all time. The problem with history guy is he can never name 15 players better than Kobe. He often starts reeling off names fast like Jordan, Magic, Bird, and Wilt.

Michael Wilbon

jbeezy
06-26-2010, 02:03 PM
I wonder where Hollinger fits in?!?

ghettostar24
06-26-2010, 02:19 PM
Michael Wilbon

Michael Wilbon is exactly right. lol.

golbin
06-26-2010, 03:02 PM
GREAT read..Bryant you will ALWAYS have and had fans that have defended you for YEARS champ and we will continue to do so..just keep building your empire, and we'll continue winning the words of battle, while u continue to win the war on the court..

evadatam5150
06-26-2010, 03:21 PM
I wonder where Hollinger fits in?!?

Hollinger is the Omni hater.. He fit's every category and has nailed every criteria no less than three times in his illustrious bias filled writing career.. And yes Especially the Ms. I can't stand him..!!! You would almost swear Kobe pulled a one nighter with Holli and never called him back..

Bruno
06-26-2010, 04:59 PM
My favorite is the "Kobe has been the 2nd best player in the league for over 10 years now" -hater
The #1 guy seems to change every year, but Bryant is always 2nd...

Avenged
06-26-2010, 06:12 PM
My favorite is the "Kobe has been the 2nd best player in the league for over 10 years now" -hater
The #1 guy seems to change every year, but Bryant is always 2nd...

I lol'd cause that's so true. :)

Justice 84
06-26-2010, 06:26 PM
Eh...people always hate on greatness because no matter what, greatness always finds a way to win. Kobe has been hated, IMO, mostly because he is threatening MJ's legacy and most people cannot accept that. Now that he surpassed Duncan and Shaq and tied Magic, the hating will continue more than ever. The closer he gets to that 6th ring, the more and more people will start saying "well hes no MJ." Now once he gets his 6th, then watch out. People will go into desperation mode when it comes to their hate. Its just amazing, because after everything Kobe had been through, after the Laker dynasty came to an end in 04, he began a whole new dynasty with a whole new supporting case and no matter what, he finds a way to win. Thats greatness personified.

RaiderLakersA's
06-26-2010, 06:38 PM
this is a very funny article that is dead on.

http://www.playersvoice.com/nba/love-to-hate.html

:clap:

KillaInstinct24
06-26-2010, 07:20 PM
man i have witnessed either from tv or in real life each 1 of those Kobe Hater groups, and I think u could classify a few more groups if u gave it some thought. i understand not liking another team or another player, but like this article says, they take the kobe hate to another level "an art form."

Frezhnitz
06-26-2010, 07:48 PM
So true. Haters will always try to find a reason to hate Kobe.

Rocco007
06-26-2010, 09:29 PM
Hilarious!!!

I know 10 for each different KH!!!

Bruno
06-26-2010, 10:12 PM
Hilarious!!!

I know 10 for each different KH!!!

Yeah, I know at least one from each group easily.

numba1CHANGsta
06-26-2010, 10:30 PM
Im gonna make KH shirts and sell them to every Kobe Hater, id be rich! lol

Iceman_9
06-27-2010, 12:41 AM
eat your hearts out kobe haters! :D

CalJo1617
06-27-2010, 12:45 AM
thanks for the share. gonna forward it to all my laker-hater buddies :laugh2:

lakerssssssss
06-27-2010, 01:02 AM
this is a very funny article that is dead on.

http://www.playersvoice.com/nba/love-to-hate.html

Next time, please post the story, instead of just the link.


As another NBA season is now behind us and Kobe Bryant has picked up his fifth title, his place in history is up for debate. Bryant who was once the clear cut poster boy for the post Jordan era of the NBA, is now the most polarizing figure in all of sports. Millions of people love the Lakers star, and millions of people hate him, but every basketball fan has an opinion on Kobe and are pretty passionate about it. It has gotten to the point where when someone asks whether or not you are a Kobe fan, it almost defines you as a person. Itís like asking if you are a Democrat or a Republican. While trying to debate Bryantís place among NBA greats, I was amazed by how many Bryant haters there were. The number of haters was so great that I didnít even find it fair to throw them all into one group. So just to be fair, I broke the Kobe Bryant haters up into groups so they are easier to identify.

When you ask most Kobe Haters (we will call them KH for short) to talk about Kobe, the first thing you will hear is, ďheís not Michael Jordan.Ē What exactly does that mean? Jordan is regarded as the greatest basketball player who ever lived - is not being better than him a bad thing? I wonder if I brought a 7í6Ē man into these peoples living room if the first words out there mouth be, ďhe isnít the tallest man to ever live.Ē Iím guessing they would be thinking more along the lines of, I donít know if he is the tallest person to ever live but he damn sure is tall, and if he isnít the tallest person ever, he sure is close. Saying Bryant is no MJ really isnít saying anything, its just ignoring who he is because of who he is not.

Then there is the group of haters who always seem to think Kobe is the second best player in the league no matter what. Let this group tell it, Bryant has been the second best player in the NBA for over a decade, but the number 1 player changes every other year. Somehow the number 1 player always seems to fall down the list but Kobe just never moves up. There was the heís not better than Iverson debate that lasted for a couple of years, then there was the heís not better than Tracy McGrady campaign which was followed by heís not better than Steve Nash era -- hell even Chris Paul got his name mentioned for a year as the one guy in the NBA who is better than Kobe.This is the fan who has become a diehard Cavs fan out of nowhere. He is the same guy who years ago said that if Vince Carter or Tracy McGrady ever played with the best center in the NBA they would win a title too. His favorite line use to be "Kobe will never win without Shaq", but he never seems to remember saying any of that. He often has a lot to say in the regular season, but not so much in the playoffs.

Which then brings us to the group that we will just call ďMr. Unrealistic-Casual fan.Ē Thatís the guy who watches about 10-15 basketball games a year, normally at a bar where he isnít even paying attention and by the time the game is over, he is too drunk to even tell you what happened in the game. He is the guy who yells out ďall I know is when Shaq left, Kobe couldnít even get out of the first round.Ē Itís hard to really argue with him because he is right, that is all he knows. He never mentions that Kobe lost in the first round to a Suns team that had All Star Shawn Marion as the third option, while the Lakers third leading scorer was Brian Cook.

The next type of KH, is ďMr. I-know-basketball-more-than-you.Ē He normally is the guy who played basketball in High School and may have even walked on at a D2 school. He now coaches kids basketball so he thinks he has this ability to understand the game that no one else does, and can see things that you cant see and no one else can explain. He is the guy who says Kobe just doesnít make others better, he says things like, you have to take Steve Nash over Kobe or no one wants to play with Kobe because heís too selfish. When you ask him to explain why Nash has played on some of the most talented teams in the NBA over the last decade and hasnít won anything, he really canít answer you. He says Kobe doesnít make anyone better but canít explain why three years ago no one wanted Pau Gasol but now everyone seems to think he is the best thing since sliced bread. Three years ago, no GM in their right mind would have traded Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion, for Gasol and Odom, but for some reason this guy insists that Nash gets more out of his teammates then Kobe. This guy normally has a long list of players he would rather start a team with (Nash, Paul, LeBron, Dirk etc.) all of whom have never won anything even in college, but he canít explain why because you just wouldnít understand. When you ask him to name Bryantís weakness, he gets frustrated trying to tell you, so he just tells you that you donít understand the game like he does. Sounds pretty stupid, but who are you to argue? He does coach 6th graders. The more you listen to him, you can tell his hate for Kobe is deeply rooted. He secretly blames star players like Kobe for the reason his hoop dreams never panned out. If the star player on his college team had just passed more, coach could have seen all his talent. He will never tell anyone out loud, but in his heart he thinks he could have been better than Kobe if he was allowed to shoot more.

The hardest guy to argue with is the history guy. He typically watches a lot of basketball and knows his stuff. He doesnít like Kobe, but respects his game and as painful as it is to say, he will even admit that Kobe is the best player in the NBA today. He considers Kobe the best player of his generation, but will quickly tell you he is not one of the best ever. He will say Kobe is somewhere between 15th to 20th best player of all time. The problem with history guy is he can never name 15 players better than Kobe. He often starts reeling off names fast like Jordan, Magic, Bird, and Wilt. After spiting out four names really fast with ease, he throws out two more names, then just starts saying ridiculous things like Dr. J and Walt Frazier. In a last second effort to reach 10 players, he says George Mikan, even though not only has he never seen Mikan play, his father hasnít either. He can never tell you who the remaining 7 to 8 players are who are better then Kobe but swears they exist he just can never think of them right now. While naming the greatest players of all time, he often changes the criteria for being great. He says Bill Russell has to be top 5 because its all about rings, then goes on to name a handful of players who he thinks are better then Kobe who combined have less rings than him. He always wants to point out that Kobe played with Shaq, but never wants to mention that Jordan, Bird, and Magic never won a title without another Hall of Fame player on their team. History guy knows his basketball, the only thing he doesnít know is why Kobe isnít one of the top players of all time.

The most interesting of all the KH is hypocrite guy. He says one thing, but his hate for Kobe says another. He says he hates Kobe because he wants to be like Mike, but doesnít even notice he is wearing a number 23 Cavs jersey. He says he canít stand Kobe because heís so arrogant, but his favorite player is a 25 year old who calls himself King and speaks in third person -- all while inviting us to ďwitness his greatness.Ē He is always complaining that todayís players only care about money and donít care about getting better, but for some reason hates the player who works hardest in the NBA. He is often screaming that Kobe canít win a title on his own in one breath, and in the second breath screaming LeBron needs help. He says things like todayís players have no respect for the players of the past, then turns around and says Kobe steals players moves from the past. He hates Kobe so much that he doesnít even realize that stuff he says makes no sense. He calls every Kobe fan he knows every time Kobe has a bad game to say ďI told you soĒ but he is the hardest guy to find every time Kobe has great game or hitís a game winning shot. He always says he canít stand Kobe because he wants to be like Jordan, even though every Saturday he himself hitís the park in his Jordan shoes, Jordan socks, Jordan shorts and Jordan shirt and never forgets his Jordan bag full of Gatorade. Hypocrite guy doesnít even realize everyone wants to be like Jordan including himself, the only difference is Kobe is the only one willing to put in the same work Mike did.

Last but not least is ďMs. I-canít-stand-him.Ē This is the female who obviously used to date Bryant, if you didnít know any better. She often says I canít stand him with so much passion that you can tell it goes deeper than basketball. She has a long list of reasons she hates him, and not one of them has anything to do with basketball. She doesnít even have a favorite basketball team, she just roots for whatever team is playing the Lakers. If you watched her throughout the playoffs you would think she was a Suns, Thunder, and Celtics fan her whole life. There really is no need to argue with her because all she ever says is ď I canít stand himĒ and all you can really do is wonder, does she know him?

Does every super star in sports have his/her group of haters? Yes, but hating Kobe has gone to a different level, it has taken on an art form. While millions of Americans will admit to being a Kobe hater, there are several hundred thousands of fans out there who donít even know they are Kobe haters. The saying goes, ďitís lonely at the top,Ē or as Jay-Z once said, ďyou donít even know me and you mad. How it feel to be a hater, now I know exactly how it feels to be a Laker."

robdizzle3
06-27-2010, 01:33 AM
The hypocrite guy is funny to me. We all know a bunch of these categories and I wish i could get them to read it, because they would be speechless.

newt31
06-27-2010, 04:02 PM
Michael Wilbon

My first thought as well

New Power House
06-27-2010, 04:47 PM
Been saying this for years... Fact is Nash received at least one of Kobe's MVP trophy's due to Kobe hate.. Good stuff though and pretty much laughed my way through it because I've met every one of these fan types over the years.. ;)

The ones that count more are the MVPs form the finals. Just ask Nash,Lebron, and the rest. Kobe knows this and that is the reason why he is a 5 rings Superstar. I also will say that even during the Shaq era Kobe got at least one MVP stolen due to the love of the media for Shaq. Kobe now has silent the detractors and now they have no other option,but to recognize his prime value.:D He is now chasing Jordan and he will pas him with 7 rings.

kArSoN RyDaH
06-27-2010, 10:04 PM
yeaaa the years that steve nash won mvp were the years that they came up with that BS saying that mvp should make their teammates better. i love it tho. this article tackles everything that kobe haters do head on..im going to post this in the nba forum lmaoo

LA_Raiders
06-28-2010, 12:56 AM
lol, cool read... 5 RINGS HATERS....